Press "F" to fire Raja Every single product he's

F...uck off.

480 and 580 are great budget cards. Not sure why was the Vega so delayed, even now we see that FE was launched too early, with abnormal power consumption and shitty performance.
Goddamnit, they did well with Ryzen, can't they do well with Vega?

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>>61153350
What's the most obvious difference between Jim Keller and Raja?

>>61153362
Poo in loos totally btfo the fuck out.

>>61153362
Keller poos in the loo, raja probably doesn't.

>>61153362
JIM KIKERIPPER

>>61153362
Hee poos in the street and makes more money than the past ten generations of your family have made collectively. When your race or ethnic background is all you have to pride yourself with, shows how little you have that's useful to the world.

>>61153274
Wait for Drivers(tm).

>480s and 580s flying off the shelves
>total flop
... ok.

>>61153636
Don't spoil the narrative, asshole. AMD are literally finished and literally bankrupt.

>>61153274
G

>>61153274
Fire him? I want to praise based Raja. Dude is literally making AMD relevant again.

>>61153636
Miners saved RTG. But they might not save Raja.

BASED RAJA. whenever he comes to my local street to poo the school children throw flowers in jubilee.

>>61153678
How?

Based raja got his graphics cards in every next gen console. He prints money

>Runs every console
>Runs every Mac
>flop

>>61153820
>Practically has to give his shit away for next to nothing for companies to even look at his trash

Not a flop!

>>61153274
Can somone explain the Raja hate? I mean, the RX series was a huge success and so are the Ryzen CPU series, what am I missing?

>>61153359
Get out, Danilo.
**Hire me, please.**

>>61153387
OY VEY

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>>61153903
Shitposting and shareholders. BTW Raja didn't even work on Polaris and Vega. Navi gonna be his first.

>>61154037
Raja has worked at AMD for 4 years now. So saying that he had nothing to do with vega is wrong.

>1600mhz 64CU Vega FE only 15%~ faster than 1050mhz~ 64CU FuryX
Nah, its some driver issue. IPC would have had to make major regressions for this to be the case.

>>61154037
Fuck off AMD employee. Raja was directly involved in both Polaris and Vega.

>>61154078
Vega FE literally runs modified Fiji driver.

>>61153903
amd has strong competition with nvidia, but didn't with the cpus.

nvidia, as much as they were willing to sit on their dicks in the past, aren't holding back, so when amd makes a gpu and it's either best for its price or great value people think it's his fault that they aren't just better then nvidia.

The problem is 2 fold.
1) nvidia doesn't use a hardware scheduler, which allows theirs to be more flexible but FAR higher overhead, when a game properly takes advantage of the hardware scheduler in amd cards, it boosts performance by 10-20%
2) when the scheduler is not used, amd cant do a whole hell of alot, while nvidia can force multithreading on the games, it may take a massive overhead hit, but lets be honest, if you aren't using the resources and a 20% hit is taken to each core, but without you would only be using 1core, with you are using 4 cores, you stand to gain far more then you loose.

its a very interesting issue both companies face.

>>61153903
They're just jealous of his ridiculous swag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhK2gf_VCTg

He's just a natural alpha. I'm buying Vega and nobody can stop me.

>>61153387
the contract keller

>>61153851
consoles are a race to the bottom buisness, nvidia got back in on that race with the switch.

>>61153903
Rebrands of rebrands.
Three product launches that have been absolute shit shows.
Repeatedly over promises, and under delivers.
Talks about where performance of the cards will be, not where they are at.
Vega was announced a year ago after 1070/1080, and the performance is merely on par.

Raja Koduri is bad at his job as head of RTG, he needs to be squirreled away in a lab and out of the public eye so he can do the only thing he knows how to do competently,

>>61154073
yes and no, his hands likely used vega to test shit, make sure it will work for navi, much of vega was likely already in the bag before he got there and there is only so much you can change without full scrapping.

>>61154132
No they didn't. They rebranded a product they already had for years and sold it to nintendo.

The Switch is a shittier version of the Shield.

>AMD cards flying off shelves
>Ryzen shits on Intel CPUs at price points up to $400
>About to dominate the server cpu market with epyc.

Meanwhile at Intel
>Literal HOUSEFIRE on new release

>>61154096
It would have to be something like that, but it still is terrible for a company to launch a product when its 50% working.

>>61154168
>>61153772

>>61154161
yea, nvidia got back into the race.
they want to make a cpu/gpu combo but its real fucking hard to justify that cost when literally no one will use it without you paying them.

so they went for volume profits with nintendo.

>>61154161
Even my rabid Nintendo fanboy friends didn't buy a switch. It's the biggest fucking ripoff of consoles which are all inherently ripoffs.

>>61154153
So many excuses and appologies for Koduri being a failure.

>>61154176
I've been waiting for a while to buy a Vega card for my Ryzen 1700 rendering rig. I really hope it doesn't take half a year to sort this out.

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>>61153903
>the RX series was a huge success and so are the Ryzen CPU series,
Do AMDrones honestly believe this?

>>61154178
They also only have ARM CPUs.

AMD is squandering it's biggest advantage. And part of that is because Raja can't design a GPU for shit

>>61154185
not excuses, just being on major projects for a company in the past, your amazing ideas don't get implemented on something that already exists because you could literally be in engineering hell for good if you let 1 improvement reset the project, the only way this happens in the real world is if you have a catastrophic fail and a fix needs to be made, otherwise key aspects of the projects are set in stone before the project get underway, whats left is getting those key aspects to work.

there is a good chance that navi was the first gpu set ar enough in the future to have no key aspects set in stone.

>>61154211
Ryzen is. RTG is being bailed out by Ethereum miners.

>>61154078
>>61154096
it throttles down to 1400-1500MHz, but I agree, 15-20% more performance for 40%-50% higher clock speed is a big regression in IPC
I really hope it's just that a bunch of features are disabled due to old drivers
I mean it did perform pretty good in cinebench opengl test (somehow). I think that was the only test where it beat titan x. I have no idea what's going on with that benchmark, but it clearly shows that there's potential in the card.

>>61154211
considering rx series is outsold everywhere, you can't deny that financially they are success.

>>61154217
on mobile, as in tablet shit, you aren't getting an x86 cpu and that's all amd had at the time nintendo was shopping around.

the next switch/mobile thing nintendo makes will have a good chance of being amd powered.

>>61154222
Raja Koduri is the President of RTG. He can make what ever he wants happen. Navi is going to be a die shrunk and modified Vega. That is all Raja.

Stop apologizing and making up fantasy that explain what "might" hace happened. This is what Raja wants. This is what Raja gets.

>>61154234
it beat tiitan X and Fury X in all sysbench by 100%, I don't see this regression you are talking about.

>>61154258
>He can make what ever he wants happen.
Is this how underage think companies inner structure works?

>>61153652
>Literally
>Literally
Fucking kill yourself.
>>>/out/

>>61154222
>there is a good chance that navi was the first gpu set ar enough in the future to have no key aspects set in stone.
could be true, but consider this
iirc greenland appeared in the drivers before fiji release or shortly after, at the same time as ellesmere (polaris 10) and bafin (polaris 11)
so I think it's not a stretch to say that they were supposed to land in the similar time frame.
But Greenland was probably delayed. An extra year of development for who knows what.
Who knows how many revisions it actually went through and what role Raja actually played in it.
It could be that he wanted some changes made and delayed it and it possibly turned it into something that's late and underperforming.

>>61154267
>I don't see this regression you are talking about.
game benchmarks

>>61154325
Needs actual drivers for that apparently. Workstation-wise it's looking pretty good already.

>>61154340
yeah I don't see why vega would have literally no improvements over fiji other than clock, except for some random cases where it's super far ahead?

I think immature drivers are a more plausible scenario than "no meaningful progress in 2 years"

>>61154276
Is this what AMD paid shills expect people to be ignorant of?

>>61154325
wait for RX version and see if drivers will improve by then, as per usual with any new card, new adopters are fucked in the ass.

>>61154361
there is some Reddit posts floating around that say that Vega gaming mode is running on Fury drivers as of now, thus doesn't take advantage of all the new features.

Take this with grain of salt.

>>61154393
I'm taking this entire event with a boatload of salt

as far as I'm concerned vega isn't launched yet

>>61154361
Vega FE literally runs modified Fiji drivers. TBR and Primitive Shaders are disabled.

>>61153274
>has sold out every single card he's made
>total flops
Choose one

>>61154429
Millions of GPUs sold is an awful lot of FLOPS anon

>>61153274
I'd like to housefire him

>>61154418
If it isn't running tile based rendering yet then that completely changes everything.

>>61154429
>total flops
so what is the total flops number?

>>61154429
before the mining explosion the 480s were selling at firesale prices. doubt they made much. the card companies and resellers did but not them.

>>61154532
>revisionist history
At least you are trying

>>61154446
That statement sounds like something AMD's marketing department would cook up.

>>61153274
B-but I love my 480
and my R5 1600

>>61154560
all those 480 selling for 220-240 where my imagination huh?

>>61154568
AMD marketing uses the same algorithm as inspirobot.

http://inspirobot.me

>>61154532
Bitch they were selling for $240 to $300 and everyone was complaining that they couldn't find 4GB cards anywhere for $200.
Get out of here with your shitposting.

>>61154582
That was their MSRP you retard.

>>61153687
they were selling fine (not stellar, just fine) even before the miner frenzy.

F

>>61153294
emasculate yourself

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>1$k
>300W
>1070 performance

>>61155450
As a workstation card, it's worth the price. They used old drivers because they are more stable than the RX Vega gaming drivers which are probably still buggy as hell.

>>61155689
>slow performance
>worth the price

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>>61154582
>Selling a card at the original listed price is a firesale

>>61155689
>no ECC
>workstation
also
>wait for drivers
This is hilarious considering they had 2 years and shit the bed even in 3d mark. Top quadro matches 1080ti in gaming so muh pro drivers isn't a valid excuse for its shit performance.

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>>61155732
I was wrong about the prices

>>61155714
Workstation performance is on par with a Quadro twice it's price. >>61129462
>>61155750
>Top quadro matches 1080ti in gaming so muh pro drivers isn't a valid excuse for its shit performance.
It's a pretty bad excuse, but that's what they're going with. The gaming drivers just aren't stable enough yet. Also, the top Quadro costs something like $6000.

>>61155714
I'm sure you are gonna buy quadro card to play game

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>tfw RTG is a containment division to keep Raja from ruining all of AMD

>>61155770
The issue here is they had a FULL year and can't even match 1080 with bigger die, power draw and HBM2. This is so fucking bad no amount of drivers will get them close to 1080ti.

>>61155858
It's old drivers literally using none of the new features of Vega. >>61153772

Vega is the result of them trying to reverse engineer Nvidia magic and failing miserably

>>61155880
You better fucking hope so.

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>>61155942
1.7 woodscrews porkshoulders housefires fuck off Huang.

>>61155958
We'll see when RX Vega is released. If it's still the same shit, we can just assume Vega is a complete failure on every level.

>>61155942
Nvidia's magic comes from the drivers, not the hardware. AMD have fantastic hardware which is unfourtenately coded by literal monkeys.

The hardware's only issue is heat and power comsumption

>>61155979
> The hardware's only issue is heat and power comsumption
That's would not be an issues once the monkeys behind drivers will enable fucking tiled rasterizing.

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>mfw the same amdtard doesn't even change his filenames

>>61156002
The card is rated at 300W, retard.

>>61156022
t. leather jacket man

>>61155958
it's plausible and honestly I'm willing to consider it. people shitposted about early Ryzen and Polaris benches and both times the waitfags turned out to be right.

one of the worst ways in which AMD is disadvantaged by its size is the inability to prep the market for a new launch.

>>61156031
No fuck you retard. It's a 4096ALU monstrocity.

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>>61156034
fuck you

>>61156071
gay. woodscrews. 1.7% yields.

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>amd fucks up again

this pleases the huang

>>61156085
t. porkshoulders

>>61156079
He still wins and shows who's the true boss of the gpu market.

>>61156092
can't eat pork Muhammad?

>>61156117
Still gay. Still 1.7% yields. Still woodscrews.
>>61156122
t. Jen Hsun Huang

King Pajeet fucks so bad that Huang delays Volta.

>>61156147
Why the fuck would they delay bigger Pascal?

>>61156050
I have no doubts Vega will be the new Hawaii.

But why are we still having Hawaii like expectations with Raja in charge? Why is it that every launch under Raja has been a cluster fuck of epic proportions? Hell, month 1 of any AMD product is just full of bullshit. They can't get their shit together and need to start hiring the best people they can to sort this shit out. Skeleton crew or not, it is not acceptable or excusable any more.

>>61156237
Go work for them For Free(tm).

>>61156168
1.7% yields.

>>61156297
Only for GV100. The rest are going to be much smaller.

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AMD has 60 thousand more search results on youtube when it comes to "GPU issue" than Nvidia while having 3 times smaller market share. Let that sink in for a minute.

>>61153274
F

>>61156468
intel gpu issue = About 981,000 results
nvidia gpu issue = About 1,300,000 results
amd gpu issue = About 729,000 results

Retarded frogposter.

>>61156498
nvidia gpu issue = 189 000 results
amd gpu issue = 250 000 results

Probably has to do something with country of origin and google's search botnet. UK btw.

>>61154364
dude has to ship a product, he can't just keep making it better and better, the only things that are able to be made from scratch are products so far in the future that they have nothing set in stone. like it or not silicon has one of the longer product development periods from inception to product, just because new person gets in doesn't mean they scrap everything and start new.

>>61153274
>poojet outdid fermi
Vega is reaching voodoo 6k level of failure
let that sink in

>>61156523
>britbongs
Opinion discarded.

>>61156544
>I have no clue what I'm talking about and didn't read the thread: The post

>>61154316
Any delay was likely due to hmb2 availability, this likely also allowed them time to refine aspects of it, but not allowing them to radically change anything.

>>61156556
t. underage poojet

>all quadros are workstation cards
>you can also play games with the same performance than geforces

>vega frontier is a workstation card
>but amd say its not optimized for games

Thats because Vega suck on workstation and gayming with a crazy TDP vs the GTX 1070/1080.

>>61156584
>b-but the quadro is $6k

>>61156237
>>61156050

the issue with polaris was we never got good silicon, likely the same with vega, but vega has more going on under the hood then polaris does so it's interesting.

>cluster fuck of epic proportions

I can't think of anything that was a clusterfuck, you have tech news blowing small issues way the fuck out of proportion, but I can't think of anything that was truly a clusterfuck.

>>61156608
>blowing small issues way the fuck out of proportion
sup Raja

>>61156624
Sup Huang. How's GV100 yields?

>>61156624
the only issue was a 12-16 watt overdraw, that was resolved with a driver, and as no known motherboard fails because of it.

you want to go clusterfuck, you can look at was it gigabyte or was it evga 1000 series cards where they fucked the vrms hard.

>>61156584
Actual working, stable gaming drivers coming Soon(tm).

>>61156655
It way EVGA but giga's FE boards were also going snack-crackle-pop for whatever reason.

>>61156655
Vega would have been somehow acceptable at this state if it was released last year. Now it's a fucking failure.
>>61156650
sup r/amd

>>61156687
So how's GV100 yields? Still <1.7%?

>>61153274
You are actually right. 480 were alright. 580 is awful "performance of 1060 with power consumption of 1080ti". The whole rename thing was god awful and misleading.
Vega is another huge fuck up. A huge delay. Still no performance, price, availability info.
AMD share in gpu market is dropping.
Raja needs to be replaced.

>>61156703
Still are higher than the number of your gfs.

>>61156731
So it's actually worse than Thermi. Oh well you never make GPUs with the size almost hitting fab reticle limit.

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>amdtards defend this
Not that it's unexpected. At least their amount is considerably lower.

>>61156803
t. Huang

>>61156803
>Avatarfagging anime shitposter
Drink bleach. https://rbt.asia/g/search/image/I7WOXWxH0kT0MhCENFpNGg/

>>61156807
>>61156839
10 points have been added to your RT+ account.
Keep up the good work.

>>61156854
t. leather jacket man

>>61153274
>literally snakeoil salesman

>>61153274
vega is his first product you moron

>>61158029
>Polaris didn't happen

>300 series didn't happen

>Vega turning in to a shit show isn't happening

>>61158056
He had no input on anything but Vega.

>>61158056
wait are you suggesting that raja had any saying on 300 series or polaris?

do you even know what is the difference between series 7xxx and 2xx and 3xx and 4xx and 5xx ?
ITS THE SAME FUCKING CHIP with updated microcode

>>61158093
No, not exactly. Hawaii is very different to Tahiti. Tonga is slight different to Hawaii. Fiji is double-Tonga. Polaris is half-Fiji with some tweaks. Vega is (almost) totally new.

>>61153274
s

>>61158122
no some of them are only "full chips" than others the only true next gen iteration of gcn happened with vega

>>61158185
You're totally tech illiterate and your english sucks, Ranjeet. Please stop.

>>61158082
Good little AMD lapdog, you drink that koolaid.

>>61158093
Fucking triggered spergs like you need a break from your fantasy world. The only thing Polaris has in common with Hawaii is their performance. Hawaii was all new for the 290. Tonga was all new for the 285 and was basically half of a Fiji for the Fury X which brings us to Vega. Which redesigns Fijis front end so half of it's shaders aren't sitting unused. Raja has no business doing anything but sitting in the fucking lab getting paid money. He is a piss poor executive and exactly why no one gave him a chance to advance beyond lab rat. Because we see RTG getting fucked, repeatedly, by his shitty executive mistakes.

>>61158122
>Vega is (almost) totally new.

Actually it is Fiji with a lot of new shit put on it; it was done like that so it has a modicum of compatibility with GCN. Said new shit has not been enabled yet in the drivers.

This could be either because they wanted to maximize compatibility on the "prosumer" FE card, or because the drivers are not yet ready to be published even as a beta, or because the new features don't fucking work on a silicone level so they are forced to use the fiji codepath.

>>61158334
>This could be either because they wanted to maximize compatibility on the "prosumer" FE card
They wanted to simply make FE card work. And even then FE driver has a beefy bug list.

>>61158238
Don't forget that Polaris manages to do Hawaii performance, with half the render units. So it is way stronger.

One has to wonder why couldn't they just put that shit onto Fiji and get 1.5-2x the performance, which when combined with the clockspeed boost would make for a card that is 2x Fury X minimum.

If Vega has been indeed redesigned so hard that it's nothing like Polaris either, then it has to do more than 2x Fury performance. So something is really fucked up with Vega.

On that note do we know if Polaris uses any of the features they said that Vega has? Like tiling or so.

>>61153636
>Only good for building disposable mining rigs
>"Consumer grade"
Face it, AMD is no longer a competitor.

>>61158391
>Don't forget that Polaris manages to do Hawaii performance, with half the render units. So it is way stronger.
It still hits a brick wall when scene complexety increases too much for GCN's geometry throughtput to handle. Current Vega FE is basically a 14nm Fiji anyway.
>So something is really fucked up with Vega.
Drivers. Even nVidia released Maxwell in two steps. GM107 and GM200 family after that. And Maxwell had no HPC offering.

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>>61158418
Wasn't that bad before miners bought out the entire mid-range.

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>>61153362

Keller is a king of CPUs. Raja is only a simple pajeet.

>>61159083
A simple pajeet is unable to design R300 or R700/Evergreen family.

>>61153274
P

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>>61153274

>>61153274
F

at least i switched to Nvidia before it was too late

>>61153294
t. Raja