/pcbg/ PC Building General

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Reminder.

>>61119415
good goy

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3YmWsJ

Starting buying parts but I'm unsure about the MSI board, is the one I have fine or should I get Assrock or gigabyte

>>61119415
precisely why i passed on the ryzen 1700 and purchased a 7700k

>>61119415
As if i can fucking notice a difference between 300fps and 500fps

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>>61119415
Friendly reminder to not OC on Intel(R) Kelvin Lake(TM) and buy a housefire insurance.
The Housefire(TM) Insurance Pro(TM) can be purchased from Intel(R) customer service.

>>61119489
i can

>>61119486
cause of csgo?

>>61119489
you can in smokes, the great equalizer. smoke grenades in CS bring most players down to ~100 fps, but with 500 fps, you have enough leeway to be able to have fluid fps in the most common setting (smokes down around you)

>>61119503
Then good luck hitting 500fps in Witcher 3 or Watch Dogs 2

>>61119481
Assrock is garbage, that board is fine.

Looks like a pretty solid setup, but that's a ludicrous amount of money to be paying for a 550W PSU. I'm pretty sure you can get the 850W version of that PSU on Amazon for only 10 quid more, and it'll be a lot quieter under load.

>>61119481
Build is fine. If you're unsure about the mobo get an ASRock Pro4M but both are fine.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWbd7h

I'm curious for any feedback. The memory is compatible with the board. The video card is more than I need. I'm aware that I'll need to wait for an adapter for the cpu fan.

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>>61119572
Looks good, Arctic F12's are total garbage, they move plenty of air but the motors are loud as shit.

>I'm aware that I'll need to wait for an adapter for the cpu fan

w-what?

>>61119572
>buying windows
?

Is the stock wraith cooler good enough for gayming on a r5 1600?

Whats a good gpu to pair with 6700k? In 1080p?
Is 1060 alright? Of course amd is out of question since buttcoin miners fucked my upgrade cycle

>>61119591
>Looks good, Arctic F12's are total garbage

The reviews were highly variable. Either loud or really quiet. The fans aren't a selling point, so I'm open to suggestions.

The AM4 needs an adapter for a lot of established coolers. For the one I got, you gotta go to their website, give your proof of purchase of the Ryzen and cooler. Then they send you an adapter for it for free. Reviews vary on shipment, but many are above two weeks. I'd rather just buy on Amazon it at that point.

>>61119625
Yes it's also good for light OC. If you want to push to 3.9GHz you need to buy something better.
Noise is also suprisingly low, even on max fan speed.

>>61119415
>you need 400+ FPS on a 60 Hz monitor to play good

>>61119643
>The reviews were highly variable. Either loud or really quiet. The fans aren't a selling point, so I'm open to suggestions.

Supposedly there are two versions and the V2 isn't so bad. I bought mine a while ago and they are awful so they must be the V1. If you want white case fans the NZXT ones, like the only white fans they sell I don't remember the name, are good. Also Phanteks PHF120MP's are good, even though they are radiator fans they work well as case fans too, better than the SP's according to reviews. I'm happy with the ones I've got, they start up at like 500rpm and the motors are really quiet.

>The AM4 needs an adapter for a lot of established coolers...
I see, I thought you might have thought the 3/4 pin fans wouldn't work on the 3/4 pin motherboard headers.

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Is now a bad time to buy a used 5960X?

>vega doa
>polaris 400 USD+
>nvidia no freesync support

It's over, I'm gonna buy a console.

>>61119673
>playing competitive games on a 60hz
>having a 60 hz for desktop use
>being that much of a retard

>>61119260
Anyone? The CPU is Intel Pentium 4 524.

>>61119902
yes

what the fuck? if you're asking this question, im seriously worried you have no idea what you're doing

I'm thinking of building a Ryzen rig with a R5 1400 and using it for Linux, and light to medium linux gaming (along with dual monitor 1080p 60hz) what GPU should I go for to match this setup? And how are drivers for ryzen with Linux? Anything I'm missing here?

>>61119802
It's still a good CPU but it entirely depends on price

>>61119519
>Assrock is garbage
retard
asrock>msi>gigabyte>anus

>>61119635
>>61119915
>what is the op
>how to read

>>61119921
>defending assrock when they just EOL'd a newly released board

lul, 0.01$ arserock bux deposit to your account pajeet

>>61119522
>>61119519
>assrock is fine
>asscock is garbage
you fucking faggots

>>61119902
Even C2D is a good upgrade.
What is your budget and purpose?

>>61119931
I need to know what's the best GPU (preferably AMD) that won't get bottlenecked by the R5 1400.

Can a decent 500w unit handle rx560 crossfire? Don't tell me not to CF, I already have one rx560, and will get another one used off a friend soon for dirt cheap.

>>61119941
what board did they eol?

>>61119921

asus>asrock>All

get msi if you are gaymer

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>>61119959
>Don't tell me not to CF
Ok, but you'll regret it when your games look like shit due to stuttering and you're getting an extra 50% FPS average.

>>61119959

wat psu do you have also don't cf

>>61119979
>>61119992
so even if I got the card for like $40 or less, CF still wouldn't be worthwhile? damn

>>61119992
bequiet system power 8 500w

not the greatest ever but decent quality according to hexus.net review

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>>61120006
>so even if I got the card for like $40 or less, CF still wouldn't be worthwhile? damn
It'll push out impressive numbers in benchmarks but otherwise it'll be shit. For perspective, SLI is widely accepted to be far better than CF, but people rarely, if ever, recommend SLI anymore. In the real world you wont get anywhere close to 2X performance and games might even look worse due to stuttering.

If you need more power sell what you have and buy a better card.

>>61120006
Is rx560 even worth cf'ing? Anyway, since you're getting another card that cheap I can't see why you can't afford to spend additional 70 bucks on a decent PSU if you have to.

SLI is dead, CF is dead. Get over it.

What kind of ATX mid tower cases do you guys use? I'm looking at getting a Fractal Define R5 case for the build I had in mind.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2Zr8K

>>61120006

yea go give it a shot with that psu it's fine but don't expect too much, look into cf supported games

GA-H110-D3
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H110-D3-rev-10#sp

Does it support NVMe at full speed? It has m.2 slot, but specification don't list nvme support explicitly like here - https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H110M-HD3-DDR3-rev-10#ov

>>61120064
H100i is dogshit, since you're getting a case without a window just go for some big ugly air cooler like an NHD15. You won't get any pump whine at idle and it'll perform better, and for less money.

>>61119802
You can get a better R7 1700 + b350 motherboard + 16GB for $520

>>61120006
NEVER multicard. That's a rule of GPUs. It's pretty complex why but the short answer is: Look up alternate frame rendering, then look at some frametime analysis of mulitcard setups. They're all garbage.

>>61120064

Define S
NHD15 over h100i
2x Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 or 3000
unless you have the psu already SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum
maybe xonar dx with uni xonar drivers
get a hd598 or game zero

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>>61120137
Yeah but it doesn't come in a cool box like this.

>>61120200
you win for now...

>>61120200
>fire extinguisher not included in box
DROPPED

>>61120200

pro tip any box with gold and black will give you more enthusiast experiences

>>61119362
I'm building a mini-cube computer for my living room to light game when I'm relaxing with the family (I like the cubes).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ID2FBU6/

That being said, I really don't want to bother fucking around with Ryzen 1600X right now. I was gifted a 1050 Ti.

Should I still get a Ryzen CPU even though I've got an Nvidia-type card? Intel has never gave me a single problem in my entire life.

Will be getting 8 GB 3200 RAM, and a 256 GB M.2 (cube will be used infrequently, not even getting a regular HD).

Rumor has it, the G4560 might not be the right budget choice for this, since it will likely be the bottleneck compared to the rest. Also, I think it only supports up to 2400 mHz RAM?

Thoughts welcome. Might just get 2400 mHz RAM and make it 16 GB or something, get a G4560 and call it a day.

:thinking:

>>61120273
You don't have to roleplay pretending you're some rich guy who's just throwing together some system he doesn't care about, it's ok to tell us you're poor.

>>61120111
>>61120147
Thanks. Still haven't bought anything yet so I'll look into those parts.

Im buying a new PC and im looking at an SSD

what's a good entry level SSD? What am I looking for when buying?

>>61120318
Samsung Evo 850

>>61120318
PNY CS1311, ADATA SU800, SanDisk Ultra II, SanDisk SSD Plus and some SK Hynix. Sometimes you can also find some Mushkin and Toshiba SSDs like Triactor or OCZ Trion, etc.

>>61120322

that's kinda expense...

Do I have to set RAM speed and timings manually or can I use XMP?

>>61120354
If you don't have money here>>61120353
I forgot I got mine on cyber monday for 50% off.

>>61120365
Use XMP.
Only set timing manually if XMP doesn't set the proper speed.

>>61120298
Well, I've got my tower with all the sw33t parts I built a few years ago. Just bought helped build my girlfriend's computer in the basement that she games on.

I however, wanted to try something new. Small form factor. Been doing research for the past week or so and been all over the SFF forum.

Another fun story:

I bought a computer setup for my friend in Venezuela which included the G4560, but he's too much of a pussy to put it together so he had to bring it to his professor.

The fucking idiot blows his 500w gold power supply somehow. I send him a replacement because he's dirt poor. HE CAN'T EVEN INSTALL IT. Apparently he tried to install it, but HE INSTALLED IT WRONG AND IT DIDN'T WORK?

Even better story:
A lady friend of mine was gifted an older PC from a different lady friend. Okay. Cool. But, when she hooks it up for some reason her desktop resolution REFUSES to get out of ~ 1300x700 or whatever garbage resolution it was. I tried everything and finally said fuck IT. Try a god damned different port. She says "so remove the blue connector?" I froze. What? Blue connector? Are you USING A VGA CABLE? SWAP THAT WITH AN HDMI. Instantly fixed.
>Anon YOU'RE A WIZARD OMG

Please kill me.

So, in short, Not rich, but no point in spending bucks on a side-bitch light gaming cube when I have smaller stats for 1080p just fine.

>>61120429
>I bought a computer setup for my friend in Venezuela
You sure he didn't just trade it for food?

>>61120429
>Venezuela
Why didn't you send him something more practical? Like toilet paper.

>>61119840
Caved in and bought a 1080Ti, feels bad man.

>>61120484
Which variant?

>>61120459
>>61120447

His Dad doesn't give a FUCK about his kids, but sends them money for them to get by. His Dad actually has a chunk of VEF thanks to his other Son working in high-paid IT job in America. Money is still tight over there though.

His Mom works in the Capital City and his Sister... I kid you not, web cam's for extra money.

I'm not my friend's parents or relative, so I'm not really into the whole "Daddy Deep Pockets from the US". Just helped him out a little so he can enjoy his spare time gaming with me on more modern games other than fucking League of Legends (god that game is terribly toxic and awful). We'll play Dark Souls and a myriad of other shit.

There was a time where his family was fucking DIRT broke for a month. I helped them by sending them an Amazon Gift Card for $30, which is sister sold to one of her nearby friends for like 216,000 VEF. Enough to get food and move on for the next few weeks.

>yes, venezuela really is dirt poor right now

>>61120492
I got the asus tri cooler model.
Pushed clk to 1753, memclk to 11100 and power draw to 120%, haven't touched voltage level. Boosts and stays at 2Ghz in game comfortably which seems to be what most are getting.
Been playing for a while at 4K and it seems stable, hitting 50~60fps on recent titles maxed out with AA and retarded shit like hairworks off.
The card temperature settles at 68 degrees or so 45% fan speed max but that is fucking loud.

>>61120597
Same. I got the Strix. OC or none OC? I got the none OC one and it seems i got the short end of the stick for the silicon lottery.

>>61120322
Not him but what about Samsung Evo 750?

>>61120624
it is this one
>http://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=38658
specs for factory clocks are in the table.

>>61120624
what base clocks are you hitting stable?

>>61120659
>>61120686
Oh you got the OC variant. Do you mind posting your MSI afterburner settings?

Mine is
Power draw 120%
Mem +500
Core +150
Voltage untouched

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>>61120687
I have msi afterburner but only using it for the overlay and using the Asus software that came packaged with the card for OCing.

What's a good value psu minimum 550w for a britbong

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>>61119415
Reminder.

Anything wrong with pic related?

>>61120792
it's invisible

>>61120792
yeah there's no pic

>>61120728
That's quite low. I am sure you can push the card harder

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>>61120801
>>61120805
Sorry, here it is.

>>61120810
goes unstable once I push core clock to +80, that seems to be the base clock not the boost clock.
Boost clock in both afterburner and the Asus tool show as hovering around 2Ghz. I'll boot up witcher 3 and post a screenshot of the graph.

>>61120819
looks good to me

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lmao

>>61120859
Thanks for looking over it. Looks like that's what I'll buy then.

>>61120819
Solid. Given that you can find that GPU, and that the memory is compatible at those frequencies with your motherboard.

But, why are you using a low profile cooler with that mid tower case? You should be able to fit a full sized one. And the low profile you chose is IMO almost the same as the stock one from the 1700(non X)

my AMD Ryzen 5 1600x 3.6GHz didn't come with a stock dissipator. Does the stock 1600 work with the 1600x? If so, where can i get one?

>>61120907
So the Vega is shit

>Vega is a fucking turd that is delayed again and again because its performance is pathetic

What a surprise. AMD needs to sell RTG asap because they are worthless.

>>61120922
>Given that the memory is compatible at those frequencies
I've read from other people who got that exact same 3200mhz cl14 RAM working on that board, so I assume it will do for me too.

>why are you using a low profile cooler with that mid tower case?
In the case specifications it says the maximum height is 150mm, so lots of bigger coolers don't really fit. I should be alright though if I don't plan on massively overclocking that thing, right?

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>>61120766
Even after the new patch, Ryzen is terrible...

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>>61120810
>>61120858
well it is odd, both tools reporting are different values not certain which is more accurate I'd trust the after burn one more considering it is lower.

>>61121006
Alright thanks familia
Have fun with your card. Steam sales is on.

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>>61120273
>should I still get a ryzen CPU
Yes
The 1600 is the best cost/performance chip right now. And the stock cooler is just what you need for your intended use and should fit in that case.

Right now, only BioStar has mini ITX boards, so go with that. And I understand you wont be Overclocking, so any chipset(AB320, B350, X370) would work on your build, really, so I'd just go with the one that has your desired I/O for the lowest price.

Depending on the 1050Ti you have there could be clereance issues if you have one of the bigger models. But that's uncommon, since the 1050Ti usually comes in small form factors.


>>61120986
Good, then get that RAM.
And for the clereance, check
>pic related
I'd save some good bucks and get the 1700. The binning is almos the exact same, so really the only difference are the higher baseclocks and the lack of cooler.

You can reach 3.6-3.8 on the stock cooler without an issue on a 1700.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHTNVY
Anything I should change?

>>61120147
>HD598
>G4me Zero
Both are shit. Fidelio X2 + V-Moda mic is far superiour for fun gaming. For "pro" gaming Audio Technica Air series is exceptional.

>>61121057
you too

>>61121068
Fidelio are to HD598 what M50 are to AD900X.

Good for niggers who love mud blasted into their ears, but a pass for anyone with taste.

>>61121063
I have heard mixed reviews on that AIO. And i think you can find better air coolers for that price.

I recommend getting the hitachi Ultrastar 3TB for like $15 more.

And the usual ryzen advise is to get hogher refquency RAM, but if money is an issue those will serve you fine.

>>61120995
>notreallythatdirect v12
>gaymes
wew lad

Well well wll

>>61121087

>i3
>i5
>i7

>R3
>R5
>R7

I know I know Ryzen is good but fucking really?

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>>61119362
Anyone here got any experience with a UPS? I'm planning to buy one for my computer as I get alot of power outtages and some wires are unearthed in my house. I think it damaged my old computer.

>>61121095
Fidelio X2 are great for gaming and movies.
Enjoy your games and movies without explosions and effects.
>inb4 another mudheiser recommendation
Mudheiser marketing department seems to be really desperate as of lately.

>>61121145
That's how marketing works.
And has been that way since the beginning, for AMD vs Intel.

>>61121095
I like the X2 signature, doesn't sound particularly dark to me even if the vocals a little recessed.
Only have MSR7 for comparison which is more detailed, I like it for female vocals but prefer X2s overall because the soundstage is far better and way more comfortable as a daily driver only downside is it is just a little heavy.
Might give some of Audiotechnica's open headphones a shot but I hear they have little to no bass. MSR7 bass level is ok just needed a touch more, works reasonably well with the bass boost on a Fiio E10k.

>all the gpus are sold out

fucking miners

>>61121181
No it wasnt

>>61121254
1050ti
0
5
0
t
i

Are static pressure fans a meme?

Do I need a different motherboard for a SC version of a GPU?

>>61119909
Just imagine me as some illiterate average consumer not worthy in /g/.
>>61119951
I'm trying to save up for a new computer and I just want to use it for browsing, watching videos and some light gaming. I'm from 3rd country so the price will be obviously higher here.

What's a good case for under 70 bucks that can fit 200mm fans in it

Rate my build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yG6DvV

>>61121439
The Thermaltake Core V21 has one 200mm on the front and costs about 60 $

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DEAD ON ARRIVAL
AHAHAHAHA
>wait for vega

>>61121169
What, like specific models, or just in general?
In general, I've used a ~$100 UPS for around 12 years, with no troubles.
Sorry I can't reccomend anything in particular, though

>>61121699
It doesn't make alot of fan noise? If my computer draws 330-350W max. What reasonable UPS should I get just so I have time to shut it down? I mean power. Do I really need to purchase a 330W or how big do I have to go?

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>>61121623
so it's just going to come down to price then, doesn't seem like AMD will be competing against volta till navi.
if AMD fucks up the pricing it'll definitely be DOA.

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currently on a budget below $1,000

wdy think should be done

>>61122137
dude you are fucking retarded

1050 ti or 1050 ti SC?

where can i get a stock cooler for a ryzen 1600x? i bought the CPU without realising that it doesn't come with one and now i can't find one anywhere.

>>61122137
Just kill yourself. PC building isn't for you.

>>61122241
Why would you buy a stock cooler instead of something much better?

>>61122137
lmao drop that mother board for a way cheaper one, no need for that. and get a better processor with that money because that i3 isnt going to cut it. id suggest against a 1050 and go with a at least a 570 or if you can move things around a bit maybe a 1060 but gpu pricing is fucking atm

>>61122241
>>61122249
because the ryzen coolers are fucking dank senpai

I found a used 1080 ti Founder edition for around 400, my previous choice was a rx580 for 270-300.
The guy claims it's never been used.
My build will have a ryzen 1600 so it's way overkill but it's such a good deal.

Should I do it?

>>61122137
send link

>>61122379
Something is fishy. No way someone sells a 1080tiFE card that cheap. Especially if it is not used.

>>61119415
Set mat_queue_mode 2 in console, then see

>>61119362
Which online/b&m US store is generally the best place to purchase parts?

>>61122404
Yeah, I thought the same, but he could just be an idiot/rich.
I will talk to him via phone.

>>61122479
Microcenter

>>61122505
The nearest b&m Microcenter from me is about a hundred miles away

VEGA=Fury X for 1000$

Amd gonna sell its GPU division by year's end as rumors said

>>61122643
Wait for Vega(RX)fag here, won't be pulling the trigger on my build until they release the RX. If it's far from 1080/Ti performance, I'll be getting a Ti instead.

is there a big diff between the r9 390 and the gtx 1080?

thinking of upgrading, nothing wrong with the 390, just want more headroom

to add, im still stuck on a shitty tiny 1080p monitor. maybe i should just get a 1440p monitor instead of a gpu?

>>61122728
In what resolution do you use the r9 390?
If 1080p, I recommend to wait until the first half of 2018

>>61122782
1080p.

it really would be a waste, since everything i play runs well enough at the moment. ill just get the monitor.

>>61122712
According to ayymd leaks which you can find on reddit, it is close to the performance of the 1080. Then again he is running it with a 500w PSU.

>>61122810
>reddit
Faggots out

Anyone have experience with the Msi b350 pc mate and a large Noctua cooler?
I'm thinking about getting a D15s or U12, but I have a WiFi card in the first pcie slot and wondering if it'll interfere. According to specs it won't have any issues with the graphics card clearance. I can't tell about the first slot though.

>>61122943
lol nothing is wrong with reddit :3

>>61122943
Where else will specs leak on?
/g/?

>>61120925
I'm assuming by dissipator you mean cooler. Then yes the 1600 stock cooler will work. Sorry i dont know where you can get them, i would assume you could by them from amd.

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
Is this a good powersupply? Never picked any myself and im currently rocking a noname

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How many fans do you guys have in your cases and are they enough? My ne wbuild will be a PNY 1080 + a R7 1700 in a Nzxt S340 and i dont know if i should stick to the pre-installed fans or add 2 more

I just managed to sell my old 1080 for 560$ and I would like to get both a good 1080Ti and a new full tower preferably keeping the whole thing at maximum 800$.Any suggestion ?

>want 144hz
>1080 is okay for now
>want decent color reproduction
Is the Samsung LC24FG70FQNXZA my best bet in this price range and for the above reasons?

Rate my build

CPU Ryzen 7000
Mobo B350 Gaming 3
GPU EVGA GTX1700 FTW 8gb
PSU EVGA Supernova G3 650w
RAM G Skill Flare X 3200mhz

1080p 144hz monitor (Freesync UW)

Phantoms P400S case, comes with 2 120mm fans that will use for exhaust, 2 Noctua 140mm (AF) for intake

Wondering if I should have gone with i7700k for CPU instead :/ I play mostly CSGO but 1700 is probably more futureproof

Wanted an AMD card for Freesync but I got the GTX1070 for €300 and would cost €425+ for a RX580, will try my luck at Vega if it ever releases

>>61123458
https://www.productchart.com/monitors/

>>61119512

You have got to be kidding. Are you literally suggesting, that the minimum fps you should have IN CS (using an engine from 2004 no less) is FUCKING 500?

You must be completely delusional

>>61121429
I suggest at least upgrade to used 775 quadcore/c2d if you can. Maybe can reuse your ddr2 ram and all other parts. GT 1030 for light gaming.
I've c2d pc until 2014 and definitely no problem for browsing, playing HD video and gaming.

Looking to upgrade my cpu since my old one is a 3570k. What is recommended lately?

>>61123703
People often think they need 500 fps, 240 hz display, gaming mousepads and 3D sound for CS. And that they are in silver because they don't have some of these things.

>>61123847
1600

Planning to buy a 1080ti
The Asus Strix OC edition is out of stock where I live. Should I get the non OC edition? Or wait for a restock (no date given).

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y88H99/evga-supernova-g3-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0650

>SATA 1, 2, and Periph
So two SATA drives and a Disk Drive. And if I want another drive? Can anyone suggest a better power supply that has four power slots? It doesn't have to be fully modular.

>>61123482
>GTX 1700
>R7 7000
are you in the future

>I play mostly CSGO but 1700 is probably more futureproof
either are overkill
Looks good to me but a lot pricey for your usage.

RX560 + freesync or 1050ti + normal monitor?

>The RX460 is cheaper than the 550 in my local store?
So what's the point of the 550? It should be at least 20% cheaper

>>61124356
price difference?

>>61124381
haven't quite decided on a monitor but I'm leaning towards something Dell. GPUs are about $30 in difference. Not sure if the freesync experience is worth it over the bit of increase in performance that the 1050ti would provide. I don't mind medium settings or anything though

>>61124263
>>61124263
Might as well post it here.

fucking miners are destroying the fucking GPU field, i hope you all fucking die. im seeing 4 to 5 year old cards in the 600 range.

can you use a micro ATX for gaming and photoshop/ unity game making?

i7 6700 or 1500x? the builds without gpu would cost roughly the same.

>>61124565
been planning to build for the first time in 6 years and they pull this shit now

its gonna be one long summer

>>61124733

>can you put a tractor tyre on a lorry?

>>61124449
What is the total price difference and which is more expensive?
If the freesync + 560 is $30 cheaper then it's an obvious yes for it, freesync benefits are at their highest when under 60fps (temporarily or not)

>>61124743
6700 is superior to 1500x in any workload. Same core count, same thread count, but quite a lot higher clocked (and can be overclocked a lot higher too)

>>61124799
what about the 1600

>>61124782
fair enough i just want a smaller case since i was one of the stupid ones who got a a nxzt phatom and the damn thing takes too much space.

>>61124826
6700 has higher framerate in gaming (good for high refresh rate screens) but heats noticeably more, requires a cooler and has two less cores (less headroom, worse performance in multithreaded software, less futureproof)

>>61124866

Well you can do all those things on micro ATX as unless you need 4 (or more) ram slots and mountains of I/O micro ATX is just ATX but smaller. I wouldn't want to be overclocking any cpu on 99% of the boards though.

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is this a good build for beginners like me?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7TV8K

>>61124784
monitors would cost roughly the same so the GPUs are the main difference I think. I mainly want a smooth experience more than higher than necessary frame rates. If freesync + a 2GB RX560 can do that then I'd be happy.

>>61124957
don't need to do it since i'm new on this and will only be making basic unity z brush and photopshop use nothing too heavy and don't think ill use 4 ram sticks, i was thinking that the smaller form would be a heat bomb and would cause bottle necks etc, nice to know. im slimming down.

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>>61124225
This is what a cable in one of those slots might look like.

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How can something that came out today already have a "sale" price

Also are these better than the 7700k's

>>61125185
Why would you think it can't? Aren't early adopter discounts pretty popular even? Sounds like a good marketing strategy to me.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BgqV8K

strick budget, cant go over $400 by more than a dollar or two. i need to run an ide and also a mysql server (for learning)

>>61125156
Yeah, I'm just learning that. Thanks. I'm also dialing back the power because 650W is overkill. Switching to this until I find something better:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XxvZxr/evga-b3-450w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b3-0450-v1

And now I'm re-thinking my case. I have this picked out:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cTQypg/corsair-case-200r

But this one is looking pretty nice.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FtV48d/corsair-case-cc9011051ww

>>61119486
Because you have a 300hz monitor or because you're retarded?

Need some help guys. I am a drawfag looking for help making a build. Canada budget is max of $1700. I play FFXIV and are a full time artist. Computer will be used for work and for gaming on spare time.

>>61125227
It's says "was" but how can it be was when it started at what it is now. It's retarded

>>61125296
how good are you? serious question. show prooff

>>61125307
Technically it starts with the MSRP I guess.

>>61124256
>61124256
If by future you mean phoneposting

Yeah overkill probably but how much would stepping down save me? 200e or so on the CPU and then maybe another 50-75e on the RAM? And maybe 50e betwen the mobo and PSU?

Nothing to be saved on the GPU, the GTX1070 was the best card I could find at any reasonable price, mining has fucked everything and I think I got lucky with this one for 300e... I don't care about retarded 300+ CSGO FPS but I do want to hit 144 for that 144hz screen, also in DOOM

I guess I could cut those and get a second monitor though

>>61120318
Wait another 5 months (buy only the HDD for now) because at the moment ssds are overpriced af due to scarcity in NAND memory. In a few months production of 72 layers nand should begin and the prices will fall again.

>>61125185
>Also are these better than the 7700k's
They are clocked 100MHz higher with identical boost speed, it will perform 1% better at best, and it has no iGPU
The mobo for it also cost a fuckton

>>61125309
Enough to make my living off it. I can not really show my stuff it's linked to my business and address. If you want tips for getting into freelancing I be more than happy to help.

>>61120949
Or more simply, non retarded subs don't allow fake benchmarks

>>61124998
- drop the cooler
- change motherboard to asrock pro4 or something from MSI
- pick at least 3000mhz memory from mobo's QVL
- change hdd to normal 7200rpm 1 / 2 tb
- change monitor to one with an IPS panel, ideally 23-24" size

>>61125489
>>61124998
What this anon said, especially about the cooler. Wraith Spire is more than adequate.
I'd advise getting an ssd over an hdd as well, can easily add an hdd later.

>>61125489
on a budget below $900 bucks tho, what are your suggestions for that?

>>61125489
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-1

Well it's official, no VEGA recommendation PCB threads I guess

>>61125604
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/22nMHN
Drop the hdd if you need to

>>61125709
i said below $900...

>>61125654
why? miners are on it like the new whore in a porn studio, we have to wait them out.

>>61125604
>>61125730
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WBdt2R
you could also pick a cheaper psu and use that money towards a better gpu, though currently there are none

>>61125730
Dropping the hdd would make it so. No reason not to get an ssd on a new build. Everything will load faster, you'll be happy you got one.
>>61125781
This is solid, I'd still swap the hdd for an ssd.

So who is actually paying for Windows, here?

Any recommendations for cheaper LGA1150 socket motherboards? I'm not upgrading for a while, and my current motherboard is having some really fucking annoying problems.

It POSTs fine and runs normally, but I can't access the BIOS screen or boot device without it freezing. I've tried flashing the BIOS via the DOS environment on the support disc with a USB since it's the only method that works, to no avail. Mobo is an ASUS Z97-A USB3.1 for reference, I picked it up a year ago on sale and never realised I couldn't access BIOS. I just wanted to enable virtualization, man. I can RMA my board, but I'm mainly looking for a cheap replacement board to use while it's gone, as I've heard terrible stories about ASUS' turnaround times.

>>61125828
couldn't i just swap out 1 tb for 1.5 tb for extra storage for games and such?

>>61125855
Nobody. Everyone uses Gentoo.

>>61125828
also, is this an ideal build for starting out gaming as a whole?

>>61125930
You could, but then everything will run slower. An ssd would massively improve your boot times, how fast programs load, any productivity would be faster, and your system would run smoother all around.
It's absolutely worth getting one.

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>>61125999
what exactly is an ssd

as i said, i'm a beginner to this type of stuff

>>61126035
Google it you worthless piece of shit

>>61126035
Are u a female? Are you new at jewgling stuff too?

https://turbofuture.com/computers/solid-state-drives-for-dummies

Lids, can someone explain why intel has come out with a mid generation refresh of an already established chipset in the z270? I was gonna build a mini itx build but now there's x299 chipset coming out. WTF!?

>>61126050
so an ssd is just a better version of a hard drive?

>>61125930
>>61125828
you're right i forgot about ssd.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FMY8cc
if you REALLY want more storage then pick this 2tb hdd https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KykwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-hdwd120xzsta. don't drop the ssd though.

>>61125978
what do you mean? every build is good to start gaming.

>>61126073
It's a storage device, yes.

>>61126073
faster and less noiser / silent, but also more expensive and with a specific limited amount of data written / read onto it

>>61126073
yes
better
gaym loading times in the single digits ballpark
startup in 10-20 seconds

>>61126110
>as if most HDDs didn't miserably fail long before any SSD even the shittiest ones

>>61126110
>with a specific limited amount of data written / read onto it
every modern ssd will last several times longer than even the best hdd.

>>61126083
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsQMHN
Never wise to skimp on a psu, check reviews. This one should be better.

For gaming it should be a fine. A 1050ti may limit you depending on what games you play, but the market is awful right now. You could possibly save a bit by getting a 1050 or rx560, sacrificing some quality, and upgrading later once prices go down.

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>>61126221
>23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor
>2017

>>61126247
I didn't pick the monitor, but anon is determined to stay under $900. Although another 20 would at least get him ips.

>>61125296
Bumping with love

>>61126295
I had a 22" TN 1080p 10 years ago give it or take

>>61125296
Do you need peripherals as well, or just the computer itself?

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Just a PSA. If you didn't already know, Cooler Master sells pic related for $15. VGA holder. Magnetic. So if your GPU sags, or you're afraid of future sag, here you go.

>>61125289
>implying games wont become more cpu heavy rendering the ryzen useless

>>61126387
If games become more CPU heavy, and they obviously will, then it's a win for Ryzen you idiot. The 7700k has less headroom than even the 1600x, don't think putting ever more load on it will make it look good by any mean. Same for future 4 cores CPU, IPC has stagnated since two years and barely made improvements before that: with no new architecture in sight and just slight improvements, more cores is the only way left to go. Until new architectures in 2020+ that is, but even then don't think the GHz war will be revived by any mean and don't think IPC is going to improve significantly.

>>61126387

games will become more cpu heavy based on how high resolution matters and we'll be on 4K for quite some time before 8K, just look at video playback also traditionally stronger cores

>>61126387
>CPU heavy
>thinks 4c8t screaming along at 5.0ghz needing water-cooling is the future
>Thinks that 8c16t in a sub 100w package isn't the future

Lol enjoy your trash. Intel only thrives on single core performance.

>>61119489
as if games wont become more cpu intensive where ryzen will have 40fps and 7700k will have 60fps+

>>61126442
game developers have trouble doing multi threaded games why don't you think there are more of them

>>61126453
>he thinks the 7700k is more powerful than Ryzen
no honey. No.
If games get more CPU heavy, they will rely more on multi-threading instead of single-threaded performance like they do now. Intel thrives on single-threaded performance because it's what it's best at. Ryzen thrives on multi-threaded shit.

>>61126499
>why don't you think there are more of them
Because Intel dominated the market comfortably the last 10 years refusing to change anything. Game developers have to design games around the most popular processors if they want their products to make it. We WILL see a drastic shift to multi-threaded workloads in the coming years.

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Just a PSA that none of you is actually using all these extra threads on a Ryzen chip and that the 7700k is still the pinnacle of the CPU and thus for years to come. Only reason Intel is releasing 6 cores i7 with Coffee Lake is fight against the "moar cores for every1" propaganda, i7 8700k won't actually be any better than the i7 7700k.

t. i7 7700k master race

>>61122137
How the fuck did you even manage to get such shit for $1000?

>>61126549
>>>/v/

>>61126499
>Having trouble implies impossible

No. Just look at what the vulkan API has done. And DX12. Look at how even games like GTA have shown to be accepting of up to 12 threads resulting in smoother overall gameplay.

Mutli-core is coming into its own and the only reason single core was so heavily favored for so long was because of the Monopoly Intel had on applications and games. Why program for 12+ threads when less than 1% had high core count CPUs? But that changes with Ryzen. As cheap as they are, everyone and their mother can have at least 8 threads.

I say this as someone who originally had a 4690k. Then a 6700k. I traded for a 1700X.

>>61126555
Expensive mobo + overpriced CPU + screen + unneeded cooler

>>61126544
you know this is what they said during the e8400 vs q6600 days.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/
Anything I should change?

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>>61126588
>GTA have shown to be accepting of up to 12 threads
You're wrong buddy, GTA V uses all of my 16 threads.

>>61126608
The link, for starters

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>>61126549

>7700k is still the pinnacle of the CPU and thus for year to come

>>61126544
year of the linux amirite?

>>61126603
You're one of those people who said 2 core CPUs and 64 bit would never catch on.
12 years later, 4 cores dominate and 64 bit is now the standard

>>61119486
>dont know the relation of ticks fps and input lag
>tries to shill on /g/
>gets btfo since its the usual job of intel fags

wew lad

>>61126575
You're just mad you bought a 3k mhz CPU in 2017. Let me guess you were also "Team FX" back then.

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>>61126648

>>61126221
>never wise to skimp on a psu
unless you're on a budget. 80+ gold is just a waste of money when evga 600b will do the same job without blowing up.

>>61126659

no, just no psu is the most important component of your build

seasonic gold or higher, or evga supernova, superflower less than 760w is enough

>>61126555
Holy smokes, probably the worst build i've seen in PCB

>>61126648
>Intel fags always push more ghz and higher overclocking
>rip on FX chips
>FX chips are still the highest clocking/overclocking consumer chips you can get

So, i take it Vega is officially off the list?

>>61126648
>3k mhz
lmao how tech illiterate are you

>>61126686
you don't need a seasonic gold psu for every build. what if he was on 500$ budget?

>>61126643
No I'm not. I'm one of those people that says single thread performance is what matters for gaming.

>>61126648
call me when your precious 7700k reach any of the fx record oc

>>61126705
GPU is what matters for gaming.
The CPU just has to keep pushing commands and data to it fast enough.

>>61126705
currently. Not for much longer. Ashes of a Singularity, and Cities Skylines are glimpses of the future. They're CPU-heavy multi-threaded games.

>>61126692
>So, i take it Vega is officially off the list?

it's not available yet check in a couple of months

>>61126754
GTA V too

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Building a computer for mummy. She uses Facebook, streams tv shows, skype, lots of browser tabs and occasionally uses transcription software. No video games.

Pentium or i5? She wants absolutely no hanging. Also, just for fun, her budget is about $700 canuck bucks. Must have an SSD and ITX form factor.

What do you think of this build. I looked at the reviews for all of the parts and none of them are poorly rated. Is there anything I should change on it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ttfDvV

Redpill me on NVMe storage. Is it worth getting? What applications is it most useful for? I can get 128GB of x4 NVMe storage for <$70. Would it be beneficial to do so and put the OS or heavy programs/games on it?

Also, I'm looking at the Assrock x370 Gaming X, and it has two M.2 slots, one at x4 and the other at x2 PCIe lanes. My question is, I know Ryzen only has 24 PCIe lanes, and if I used all the expansion slots (two x8 and four x1) and both m.2 slots, that'd be 26 lanes. Would using the M.2 slots disable some of the x1 slots? Or would the M.2 slots just default to a SATA connection? Or is there something I'm missing?

>>61126850
Add an SSD boot drive.

>>61126837
I'd go Pentium

Is Ryzen good for running games in VR?

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>>61126377

Can it support pic related?

>>61126858
Ryzen has 24 + 4 (a320) / 6 (b350) / 8 (x370)

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>>61126754

>glimpses of the future

1600x should theoretically beat the 7700k but it's just not happening, it's not on the scheduler or processor level but games are tough to multithread in fact hyperthreading reaching non-hyperthreaded perf is already good, just look at what happened with HT on some memelakes it's because of splitting game logic and most games are reliant on single threaded performance first before even going into threaded optimization

>>61126896

forget about VR it's a meme and not healthy for your eyes, look more into what gpu you're running and I'd say maybe intel for the constant frame rate but not sure. if budget isn't an issue just intel for vr and games, ryzen for rendering and streaming and such

>>61126858

scratch disk for video editing

>>61126919
Got it. That makes sense, thanks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfZjM8
How does this look?

>>61126689

The world record for single core OC still belongs to a bulldozer based chip at just over 8ghz.

>>61126938

> just look at what happened with HT on some memelakes

Thats because Intel's architecture is rather "narrow" (and thats after the huge widening haswell was). Zen and IBM's POWER architectures are so much wider that they nearly always see a performance gain with SMT on.

Hyperthreading is much more of a crutch for Intel than the other main implementations of SMT designs.

>>61126938
>scratch disk for video editing
So using it to boost boot times/program load times is useless?

>>61126850
Ssd, faster ram 3000mhz, and maybe a better psu. That gpu won't be available for a while most likely.

>>61127019
Yes, use a regular SSD for that. No differences.

>>61126896
No, you need a SKylake X

what are the x series intel cpus? just a bullshit rebrand?

>>61127038

do you need like 2 hdmi 2.0 connectors then something like 4 usb 3.0 connectors for VR it's a literal umbilical cord

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>>61121291
>check the website of my favorite online pc parts store
>1050ti all sold out
>check another store
>cheapest 1050ti is almost 200 euro

Integrated gpu is good enough for most of the games I play ( indie shit basically ) but there are some AAA games I'd love to play too and looks like I'm shit out of luck. Oh well, I'll just wait.

>>61126917
Jesus god, what is this unholy monstrosity?

>>61127125

couple of corsair sp120 high pwm as a custom cooler

>>61126544
>If games get more CPU heavy

They won't. Consoles use very weak CPUs so there won't be any CPU heavy games in the foreseeable future.

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>>61127125

A raijintek morpheus bolted to a 290x. It lets my particular 290x clock to 1200mhz which puts it (for GCN) quite a bit above the average OC. The cooler needs to be that big as its dissipating nearly 400w of juice.

Pic is an old run I did with it.

>>61127174
Wouldn't water cooling make more sense than such a beastly setup?

>>61126942
get 3000mhz ram and a better psu, unless you're on a tight budget.

>>61126689
>>61126715
FX didn't have real cores, you can't compare a high FX OC when their IPC is completely shit lmao.

>>61126588
So will ryzen get a performance hit on games that for the use of single thread? Are their games like that. I'm on the fence about ryzen 5 1600 and i7 7700k. I'm making a build for purely gaming. But I want something I can use for the next 5 years even if in have to run on medium settings

>>61126889
>I'd go Pentium

Is there any scenario in her use-case that would leverage 4 physical cores? Also, is it worth it for the faster Pentiums? ~$45 more for the 3.7 vs the 3.5?

>>61127071
Yeah
To indicate high end, so just marking stuff. No difference from K CPUs.

Where to get RX 470 or 570?

>>61127299
I was in the same boat. I opted for Ryzen because of the stock cooler, cooler temps overall, and the fact that the am4 socket will be around for a while, leaving a clearer upgrade path. Combined it with a 1060 and have been very pleased so far.

>>61127307
Get the G4560. Build on the mITX form factor

>>61127345
Your country's craigslist equivalent, if you're lucky.

I found som RX 570 and 580 at lower than MSRP, and probably still working fine

>>61127192
>Consoles use very weak CPUs
The Xbox One and Playstation 4 both use AMD chips with 2 for core CCX's similar to Ryzen, though using the Jaguar arctitecture instead of Zen.
Don't talk bullshit about things you know nothing about. Consoles have more in common with a Ryzen 7 1700 than they do an Intel i7 7700k

>>61127356
Yeah I've been hovering around that aswell. Been eyeing gtx1070 though. Is the 3200mhz ram suitable for ryzen 1600? I heard it benefits from good ram. But I'm not sure if the guy meant that for gaming or other tasjs

>>61127307
>Also, is it worth it for the faster Pentiums? ~$45 more for the 3.7 vs the 3.5?

Absolutely not. A 200MHz bump is absolutely nothing in real world performance terms.

>>61127450
Faster ram will make everything run better, games included. Just make sure what you get is on your motherboardz qvl.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Md4wbj
How does this look? I'm looking for something I can upgrade later with a better CPU in a few years and a better GPU when their prices drop.

>>61125415
So what's the point of them

>>61127553
your wallet

>>61127429
What are you talking about, you clueless piece of garbage? Jaguar is complete trash and nowhere near Ryzen in terms of IPC (not surprising consider it predates it by four fucking years), not to mention a massive clock speed disadvantage on top of that. Comparing them is ridiculous. It's a low power Faildozer derivative aimed at fucking low-powered laptops and embedded solutions. It doesn't matter how the CPU is set up, it's still a complete piece of shit.

>>61127571
you have no idea what you are talking about

>>61126544
>Game developers have to design games around the most popular processors if they want their products to make it.
Well then I guess we'll see games built around a 3.5ghz i5 and a gtx 750ti for some time yet

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>>61127373
That's exactly what I was thinking. Now I just need to wait for them to get restocked at Newegg.

How does this look? I'm just waiting on a review for the PSU to make sure it's not junker, but it should be fine.

>>61120064
Fracal or corsair if you want to avoid gay ass gaymer shit

>>61126367
Anything helps I have no experience with building I trust the opinion of someone who does I can follow the steps for building but the figuring out the parts to use I am having difficulties with.

>>61124998
That gigabyte pci wifi adapter is just an adapter with a mobile intel 7260 AC on board. It gives me loads of trouble on win10. Primarily crashing DNS client every hour or so.
No issues on Linux though.

How important is it that the exact model of RAM is on your mobo's QVL?

>>61127626
Should probably get a board with wifi

>>61127839
With Ryzen it's pretty important, but you can search for other people's experiences with the exact RAM you're considering

>>61127511
Yeah I'll be sure to check it out

Can anyone tell me why rx580 is recommended over 1060 6gb. I've just been checking hot a bunch of reviews and they seem pretty much the same. The biggest plus I like is that the 1060 eats less electricity. Though what's up with the 1060 weak performance with dx12? Is this foreshadowing of something?

>>61127859
I already got her a decent USB wifi adapter she uses with her old junker. It pulls 30MBps, so it works just fine.

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How do you install an M.2 SDD on this board? Does it just fucking stick out the side?

It's an MSI B250I PRO.

Is there any reason to get the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK over the MSI B350 MATE?

It looks like they are exactly the same, except for the gamer marketing, red leds, and $15 extra

Did I miss something?

>>61128072
Generally what I look at when I buy a mobo are the fan headers and whether there will be enough of them for the number of fans I'll have in my case.

>>61128067
It's mounted vertically.

>>61128138
I don't know much about that, I just have the CPU fan and PSU fan I guess, or do you mean I should buy an extra fan?

>>61128067
>MSI B250I PRO
Their website says the M key slot is on the bottom of the board. The vertical slot on the top is for a wifi card.

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Just spend 8-9 hours trying to get my ryzen build to work here's what i built.
PSU: Thermaltake 630 semi-modular smart se
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8gb 3200mhz cas 16
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! EXTREME

So at first every time i'd power it on it would light up for 0.5sec and then shutdown instantly.
I realised the problem was with the screws i had on the motherboard i had screws some that
i didn't need to so what happened is that the motherboard was screwed wierdly onto the metal
panel so i suppose that caused some sort of interferance but as soon as i removed those screws
i was able to turn on my system and it would stay on.

Then, however no matter how long i waited there would be nothing output on my screen.
So then i started testing every possible thing trying to troubleshoot my issue, i put the
rams in every combination possible(even tried single ram), i tested my gpu on my old rig
and it worked perferctly, i tested my psu on my old rig and it worked perfectly, i removed
the cpu made sure no dust or anything was on the pins or the socket, i just powered on the
computer with only motherboard, cpu, ram, my old gpu, and the m.2 drive still nothing,
i noticed the red leds that had things like "ram", "cpu" next to them so i tried booting w/o
ram to see if the "ram" led would stay on. Both "ram" and "cpu" leds were on. I put the ram
back in and boot again. The "cpu" led is on for 10 seconds after turning on the pc and then it
goes off.

I'm in despair anons, i have no way to figure out for sure whether it is my cpu or motherboard
or if i can even rma the mobo if it was my mistake for breaking it when i screwed it too hard on
the case, please give me the magic tip that will solve everything, here in greece to save that kind
of money i've been working all year...

>>61120766
DELID

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>>61128278
>PSU: Thermaltake 630 semi-modular smart se

>>61127626
B3 should once again be a rebrand of a lower end super flower unit (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Nothing wrong with it

>>61128198
Oh, so it's on the other side and it installs just like a normal M.2? That's actually pretty smart. Thanks.

>>61128170
No I didn't mean that, it's just that sometimes cases come in with 2 or 3 fans, and not all mobos have enough headers for those, that's all.
When I built my PC I had to cash out for a better mobo because my case had 2 fans built in for example.

>PSU fan
? this is already powered by the PSU itself.

>>61128338
>implying
Just because it ain't some common PSU americans buy that doesn't make it bad,
i've put too much time researching for a good quality bronze psu and Thermaltake
had the best budget one in my country.

>>61128388
Its more about the smart se being rather shit than brand
Thermaltake makes some good units too
If you can afford a 1080, at least get a good PSU

>>61128412
Originally was going to get rx 580 but miners and shit so i went for the best value gpu
i could find that was better and 1080 was the only one.

>>61128278
So when I was younger I tried building my on PC, bough great parts, and just like you I couldn't boot or even get meaningful error beeps no matter what I tried troubleshooting.
It would power on, spin the fans, but nothing else.

Turns out I had fried the motherboard by installing it incorrectly, but I'm still not sure what exactly I did wrong (I was young).

TLDR: You might be fucked, anon.

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Ready for Coffee Lake to burry Ryzen? 7700k is already smashing AMD so I can't see them doing anything against a 6c/12t 7700k.

>>61128505
Enjoy your DLC raid keys and no PCIe lanes, anon.

>>61128529
You're thinking of x299. Coffee Lake will be 1151+ on standard Z370 board.
If you keep repeating it maybe some people will end up believing you though, good luck.

>>61128499
Could it be because those pins in the back of the motherboard
touched the case's backmetal which was conductive?
This is what i'm afraid happened.

>>61128552
My bad then if they removed the DLC key on Coffee Lake, indications so far is that they still have super cut down number of PCIe lanes

>>61128036
>I already got her a decent USB wifi adapter she uses with her old junker. It pulls 30MBps, so it works just fine.
What's the adapter? Wouldn't mind a better one myself.

>>61119362
If I almost exclusively stick to vidya is it better to spend big and get high end parts or stick to mid-range CPU/GPUs? Does this decision depend if I want to upgrade them every 3+ years?

I'm ready to go to Microcenter to throw $1500+ USD (excluding SSD+HDD) on parts for a new tower, I'm done being on a FX8320 and HD6850 playing shit like Planetside 2 on the lowest settings and still struggle to hit 60FPS. I don't want to imagine playing new games with this even on my 720p monitor.

>>61128505
The 7700K only holds up at all when overclocked to 5GHz (which you need to delid for even with four cores). A six core version isn't even going to come close in terms of clock speeds, putting it closer to Ryzen in terms of gaming performance, just like Intel's HEDT lineup. The 7700K is still going to be the king of running ARMA 3 and other games built on shitty engines that can't take advantage of more than a couple of cores.

Enjoy your delusion while you can.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgB9HN

I'm ready to pull the trigger on this. First PC build. Does everything look compatible? Anything you guys would change? I know the mobo is kind of overkill, but I'm looking to have it for awhile and upgrade it in the future.

>>61128278
my current ryzen build did this once when i carelessly assembled it in the case for the first time. I had forgotten to plug the psu into the mobo in two seperate spots, the long massive connector was plugged in but i forgot the smaller ~8 pin connector near the cpu socket


Unrelated post:
Does anybody know about standoffs and why they fry motherboards sometimes? I always assumed the material of the standoff makes no difference as the board appears to be grounded around them. I figured they just lifted the board away from the case so no solder blobs or prongs sticking out from the back of the board would touch the case. just my layman assumption though

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3YmWsJ

Thoughts on this lads

>>61128278
also have you tried testing it with a monitor, outside the case? with all the parts assembled but the mobo not mounted in a case, I usually run the front panel connectors to the mobo while I do this so I have a power button

I always do that first just to make sure everything actually works, usually with the mobo sitting on clean cardboard.

>>61128826
Its a little more expensive but I'd swap the ssd for an m.2 ssd.

>>61128610
TP-Link - TL-WN822N. It's cheap and it works. Router is in the basement, her computer is on the 2nd floor.

>>61128661
???
Have u seen the 7820k reviews?
It can OC like a beast

Hell even the 10 core 7900k can OC to hell and back.

So I expect Coffee Lake to do even better

NEW THREAD
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>>61129054
>>61129054

>>61128977
for what reason?
m2 is a meme