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VEGA 1ST GAME BENCHMARK - Performance between 1070 and 1080 in

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>300w
>slower than 1080 non ti
>competes with 1070
>$1000
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r/AMD mods are deleting all links to Vega benchmarks

AMD is going full damage control mode. Vega is a confirmed turd—they want to brush it under the rug.

This is really pathetic.
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>>61121087
It has worse performance per clock/ALU than Polaris?
>>61121136
What is r/AMD?
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i Just Waited. Now what?
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>>61121136
Thanks for the hourly Reddit drama update.
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>>61121136
We all know than...their stupid bench with the Titan X was so autistic
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>>61121166
Wait for RX Vega and prices. Then Navi.
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>>61121087
I told you.
You didn't believe me and said that it performs like a Titan or a 1080ti.

Here you go, a 1070 competitor for $1000.
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>tfw i bought a 1080
>tfw i still have the (second) best card for gaming
>i bought if for a price of a 1060

Feels fucking great
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>>61121167
It's not about reddit drama, it's about AMD trying to prevent people from seeing Vega benchmarks.

Vega is trash and it couldn't be any more obvious.
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I thought that frontier edition was supposed to be the latest breaking card, kind of like the titan, and that regular priced vega cards would be coming late 201never?
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LIKE I SAID OVER 9000 TIMES, VEGA IS FURY 2.0. THIS 'NEW' ARCHITECTURE IS A MESS AND HBMEME2 IS USELESS. The RX Vega will be worst with the 250-275w TDP. Vega is DOA
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>>61121208
Yes, yet Vega FE performs extremely underwhelming, worse than 4096ALU Polaris would.
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die shrunk Fiji, bottlenecks and all
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>>61121087
Either it's fake or amd really fucked up.
No way a 300mm2 card like the 1080 beats the best they can make.
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>>61121236
So "NCU" was just a meme? It's still regular old GCN (GCN1.5?)

When is AMD going to retire this shitty old architecture from 2012? NVIDIA are already on their 3rd architecture since then.
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>>61121255
NVIDIA is still using tweaked g80, anon.
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This what amd got on believing pajeet
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>guys, let me try to set it correctly as i never used Wattman and this card is fresh in. I am running as well just 550W PSU which could be problem as well. I keep trying :)

Jesus christ.
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>>61121245
I'm thinking it's fake. No way they could fuck up that bad.
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Isn't it designed and optimized as a workstation card?

If so this wouldn't be surprising at all.
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>>61121282
It's the case of no drivers.
>>61121284
Workstation cards are decent at gaymen. This thing is surprisngly bad considering the die size.
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>>61121087
21000 GPU score is equal to heavily oced 1070. Wtf is AMD doing?
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>>61121087
>>61121136
>>61121147
>>61121186
>>61121221
>>61121231
>>61121236
>>61121276
See
>>61121277

It's some random dipshit from WCCFtech comment section that hooked it up in his PC with an i7-4790K and 550 watt PSU that can't even power it correctly.
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>>61121087
desu I honestly wouldn't mind that performance - if the card was the size of the fury nano and cost $250 max.
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>>61121272
Please, implying Maxwell wasn't a large step up in efficiency on the same node?
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>>61121195
Same story man
>GT 210>HD 6750>7750>280>380>390>GTX 1080

>tfw bought the 1080 before the mining craze.
>now cost +$200 more
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>>61121087
It's way too early for gaming benchmarks.
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>>61121316
>we used PowerVR tech from 1994
Wow so innovative. It's still g80.
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>>61121307
>14nm AMD card that's supposed be be even more power efficient than Polaris can't even run on a 550W psu with Intel CPU (which doubt consume much power)

Truly Vega is a house fire disaster. It's like the 290 housefire all over again, except this time it's a slow piece of shit too and you get nothing for all the power guzzling.
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>>61121318
>way too early

The piece of shit was delayed like 50 times just fucking release it already
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This is Poolaris all over again. The card will probably be somewhere between stock 1070 and 1080 and will come closer to 1080 after 3 years of no drivers. I can't fucking stand AMD shills shitting up this board with fake hype.
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>>61121307
A 500w PSU can load this card without OC, also a good 500w PSU can load over 700w without problem. Stop your damage control raja
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Man it's a good thing they struck gold with their CPUs, they'll easily recoup costs of this mess.

On the other hand this thing seems to do fine in compute so at least it's not a TOTAL bust.
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>>61121317
>280>380>390
for what purpose
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>>61121359
>and will come closer to 1080 after 3 years of no drivers

Nvidia doesn't gimp their **80 cards.
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Why is Radeon shit compared to processors?
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>>61121307
>with an i7-4790K

Look the graphic score tho...vega is shit.
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If it's comparable with a 1080, then RX Vega should at least be able to get halfway between a 1080 and 1080 ti with proper drivers.
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>>61121307
Fucking subhuman filthy animals who shill for AMD from India are already in charge of damage control I see. If the card didn't get enough power it would simply have a driver crash to desktop or result in a complete shutdown. I could buy this argument if you try overclocking it but nah.
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>>61121385
>what is 780/780ti aka the cuck cards
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>>61121370
This, feels like all the R&D was diverted to Zen, for good reason too.
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>>61121360
The user who received the card said that Vega's frequency was all over the place and he was trying to get stable 1600MHz, so it's definitely throttled from power. No one said he has a good PSU. So, performance is pretty much guaranteed to be faster than a 1080, as expected.
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and retards on here called raja the gpu jim keller

he's done nothing but shit on amd's designated graphics street since becoming radeon's head honcho
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>>61121391
Pajeet
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we go through the same shit everytime someone tries to measure the performance of an unreleased card.

the card isn't out yet. the drivers are not out yet. just stop already.
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>>61121420
kek
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>>61121202
Go back to reedit with your fag drama. The fact you know this is truly pathetic.
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>>61121425
Both card and drivers are out already. The performance is beyond atrocious, it's a regression since Fiji/Polaris.
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>>61121425
He has the card, he's just running it in a garbage setup and like >>61121406 and >>61121277 said, it's clockspeed is fucked due to said garbage setup.
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>>61121195
>second best
here is the list in gpus performance in ascending order
>1070
>1080
>1080 Ti
>Titan X (pascal)
>Titan Xp
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>>61121420
I never fell for the hype. For one Jim Keller is actually white.
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>>61121425
>the card is coming out in a month
>MUH DRIVERS IT'S THE DRIVERS IT'LL BURY 1080TI I SWEAR JUST YOU WAIT NVIDIOTS
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WCCFtech really has to ruin everything, don't they?
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>>61121451
Keller has fuckall to do with Zen. He made K12.
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>>61121446
I forgot the titans existed desu
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>>61121441
So now some random from a comment section is the gold standard for accurate benchmarks?
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>>61121166
wait for Navi
It's gonna be great
It will revolutionize the industry
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>>61121474
Wait for Waitvi
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>>61121385
????

780 got fucked hard in the long run. 680 didn't fare so well either.
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>>61121457
I actually like the shitposting.
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>>61121451
Keller was not the main architect, as usual, /g is full of shit.
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>>61121471
It is if you're a shitposter desperate to shit on AMD for any reason whatsoever.
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>>61121307

Well he did say the clocks were all over the place during benchmarking. I'll see if he can stabilize the thing before I give my say on this.
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>>61121470
you did WHAT?
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This should have been out one month after polaris desu
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so i hear it's not for gaming at all

typical excuse amd
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>>61121440
t. Raja
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>>61121501
But Eren, you ARE the titan.
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>>61121492
>Nothing but white people with one Rashid who is there for diversity quotas.

It explains why Ryzen is actually good.
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>>61121496
Wrong post, retard
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>>61121136
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>>61121505
Precisely this. Why did it take them over a year to shit out this turd? This is just embarrassing.
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>>61121406
The base clock is 1500 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2958/radeon-vega-frontier-edition
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>>61121492
Keller is the guy who approve any zen idea, so he the man
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It will still sell a fuckton because all the other cards are being stolen by miners and the bitcoin hype is not slowing at all.

Prove me wrong
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>>61121535
No it's not.
TPU database is full of horseshit
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>>61121526
Poo in loo raja
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>>61121542
He sure as fuck wouldn't approve of your English.
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>>61121550
You can buy a 1080, that is cheaper and more efficient?
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https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

> In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.

He tried to warn you, but you wouldn't listen
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>>61121550
Miners won't touch this housefire, especially not with difficulty of mining increasing. Perf/W is paramount and Vega is looking to be a shocker in that department.
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>>61121567
Do we know the price of Vega
isn't this blue tard cheaper?
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>>61121359
Nah, this is not polaris, polaris was actually quite decent. I dont understand why didnt they just do a 1.5x-2x version of polaris using gddr5 under 500mm2. Also they have infinity, they could just do a dual rx580 chip gpu... Yields could be amazing. Instead they came out with all-new Vega with starving R&D budget.
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>>61121550
>He doesn't know about hbm
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>>61121391
Because AMD tends to be retarded at times.

Polaris 10 is a GREAT chip. It could be AT LEAST at efficient as Pascal, but
1. AMD raped it with high vcore to maximize yields. People undervolted their RX 480s, getting the same performance with way lower power usage.
2. AMD gimped it with low bandwidth memory. Some dude on a forum somewhere did the tests and found out that full Polaris 10 at stock core clocks would need ~340GB/s to run at it's full potential (it has 256GB/s stock). Just increasing the bandwidth alone would improve the performance by 25% with marginal power draw increase.
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>>61121563
Being this mad, sup raja
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>>61121580
You won't sell big Polaris to embedded customers and gaymers never buy Radeon anyway.
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>>61121584
Maybe Apple bought all the decent binned chips, and left scraps for gamerfags has a lot to do with it.

>>61121589
>Trusting comment section reviews
Sup Huang
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>>61121577
>>61121583
I meant that as the others cards are being bought by miners for "normal" people the ony solution is Vega
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>Some random idiot gets his hands on FE.
>Has shitty setup.
>Doesn't have a clue how to make it work properly.
This is what happens when AMD don't allow reviewer samples. Probably because they know it's not RX VEGA and will make gamers lose confidence.
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>>61121607
>Here is this one brainlet who thinks having a conversation between 30 people wouldn't give you an outcome of around 3 posts per person.

Go back to owning AMD and being an animal.
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>>61121607
memed on motherfucker
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>>61121607
Quality comment

>>61121616
This card is not for gamurs tho.
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The way I look at it, even the non-gaming Vega running in some idiot's trash setup without gaming drivers still manages to match a 1080. So we'll certianly see much better results from RX Vega with proper drivers in a setup that isn't a dumpster fire where it can actually run at proper clockspeeds.
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>>61121636

>This card is not for gamurs tho.
>performance around the best gaming cards today
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>>61121647
It's not being marketed or sold as a gamur card, in case you have not been paying attention
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>>61121624
Both AMD and NVidia don't send out review samples of workstation cards.
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>>61121607
Your numbers are right, but they indicate a far greater number of AMD shills playing damage control. But that's expected, /g/ is sponsored by AMD.
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>>61121675
>Pointing out the guy running the benchmarks is an idiot is damage control
Ok.
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>>61121136
>Vega is a confirmed turd
Is not a gaymen card memeboy, the drivers and the card itself aren't meant for gaming.

When RX Vega ships and it's tested with the proper gaymen drivers then we'll see if it's really a turd or not.
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Either AMD fucked up and Raja needs to go.

Or AMD is sandbagging so hard even with the card in people's hands, the bios and drivers aren't letting you know shit until they want to.
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>>61121640
>Wait for the Vega
>Wait for the Vega RX
It never ends
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>>61121640
>still manages to match a 1080

1080 reaches up to 25 000 points in GPU score what are you talking about? This is oced 1070 level of performance.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11887041
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>>61121675
We all know the most trusted reviews come from Indian website comment sections, why doesn't /g accept this hard fact?
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>Vega is not a gaming card

What is it then
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>>61121714
Frontier edition is a workstation card.
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>>61121693
No way you can have lower performance per clocks with some ~50% higher transistor budget than Fiji.
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>>61121714
A grill.
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>>61121714
Workstation/prosumer card.
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>>61121714
This version is clearly not marketed or sold as a gaymin card.
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This is around 33% slower than 1080 Ti which still puts it at 1080 levels.
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>>61121721
You can if the architecture is shit. Fiji was crippled. Despite the specs on paper making it out to be a world beater.
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>>61121720
>>61121725
>Quadros are also workstation card
>Gets matching performance with a 3x cheaper 1080 in tasks that its built around for

Not really related but just felt like writing this
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>>61121690
>it's another Just Wait post

Have a tissue.
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Fuck intel shills

Fuck off!!
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>>61121693
>Raja needs to go
he got 3 try
Fury
Polaris
Vega

he need to go
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>>61121754
It's important to point out.
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>>61121757
And his rebrand bullshit.
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>>61121752
Vega was supposed to fix Fiji's bottlenecks. Same ALU count, but they spent transistor budget somewhere.
>>61121757
>Fury
Has nothing to do with pajeet.
>Polaris
Has almost nothing to do with pajeet.
>Vega
Has something to do with pajeet.
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>Workstation GPU with shitty blower

AMD need to launch RX VEGA with AIB
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>>61121803
>shitty
We don't know.
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>>61121803
They literally did do that, it just costs another six hundred smackaroos.
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Relevant
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>>61121789
Worked for Incel
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>>61121705
>>61121705
>1080 reaches up to 25 000 points in GPU score
That's like the top 1080 result on the entire site. Most of them fall within the 21000-22000 range.

https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1080/review
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>>61121789
Let's not forget g80 rebrands.
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>>61121795
And it is spent on totally new engines.

Fury is half his.
Polaris is all his.
Vega is all his.

He joined in 2013, Fury released in 2014.
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>>61121446
Titans dont really exist desu

because only idiots buy them
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>>61121693
There's something horribly wrong with either Vega itself or with that dude's rig. Maybe it's the power supply. A single sample isn't enough to form an informed opinion.
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>>61121840
To be fair, Ryzen took all the money Radeon made. But that is funny as fuck
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>>61121865
Do you know how actually long R&D cycles are? He has nothing to do with Fiji and fuckall with Polaris.
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>>61121875
Given that he can't even get the clocks stable, I'm going with "his rig is trash"
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>>61121875
Fuck off amdshill, it's shit and your company is shit, Raja, and now this proves it. Checkmate.
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>>61121852
You mean the rebrands that earned Nvidia 80% of the market? My god, what a failure.
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>>61121865
You don't just do a 180 in chip design within a year.
This shit takes way more time.

If he joined in 2013, Fury was finished. Polaris was either almost or completely finished and work on Vega has already begun.
With Vega, though, he could've brought in several changes still.
Navi will be the first full Streetshitter architecture.
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>>61121905
>80%
Not even close.
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>>61121087
a prosumer card
gets slower than a gaming card
wew lad

lets wait for him to test that sexy beauty on a proper system instead of shilling
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>>61121904
Yes, "Trollatopoulous" definitely sounds like someone who should be taken seriously.
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>>61121883
Just stop it, he do enough damage. 290x look good in comparison
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>>61121883
Do you? A GPU cycle is MUCH faster than a CPU cycle.
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what if amd is raising interest with a sample so bad it can't be real and theyre going to surprise everyone with 300% better performance than 1080ti

yes this is whats going to happen

r-right guys
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>>61121284
Workstation GPUs are as good at gaming as gaming GPU's just more expensive. A Quadro will get the same performance as the equivalent Titan.
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>>61121931
No, Vega is dead and exists only for console/iGPU designs.
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>>61121936
Pretty sure the key difference here is the drivers.
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>>61121949
And ECC and vendor support.
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>>61121893
My guess would be that it is power starved, maybe by 300W TDP limit or by that ~500W PSU. I'd rather think it's the latter.

>>61121896
Where can I sign up for being an AMD shill? I'd be happy to get a few shekels for every reply to retards like you.
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>>61121969
We'd be rich given the sheer number of retards that showed up in this thread.
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If at least it draw 225w. But with 300w, say good bye to overclocking. Literally Fury 2.0
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>>61121928
Its short for a refresh but nowhere near as fast for a completely new architecture from a guy that was just brought in. No way he had any say in Fury, and Polaris was probably out of the architecture design window and frozen, on its way to tapeout
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>>61121969
Pm me your email. I'll send the details.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-vega-frontier-edition-unboxed-and-benchmark.html

10% above 1080 tho.
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>>61121087

>Fire "Intel" Strike

i'll wait for benchmarks that doesn't actively sabotage AMD products thank you very much
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>>61121931
AMD is not chasing halo products. they won't have a 1080 Ti counterpart and they won't have a i9-7980XE counterpart either. it's a monumental waste of time and money for a company that's stretched so fucking thin to begin with. expending 80% of your resources on 1% of the market only works when you're big enough to pad it.

basically, expect more Polaris-like lineups in the foreseeable future.
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Huh... If VEGA clocks stay north of 1400 while running Firestrike, that means that it's actually SLOWER per clock than Fury X, while using ~30% more power (assuming TDPish ~300W Vega power consumption) - all that on 2x smaller man. process? That's seems like a humongous step-back in performance and efficiency.
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>>61122026
on pro drivers*
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>>61122026
For 50%+ the price
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>>61121991
oh yeah just like 1080ti draw 250 but in reality it gets from 280 up to 394
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GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. I WAITED™ FOR THIS!!!
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>>61121087

i bet 100 shekels that the owner is an nvidiot employee who is concern trolling and actively throttled the card
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>>61122044
polaris also slower in firestrike than 380 on pro drivers as far as I know
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>>61122026
22916 point is the score of the average 1080 AiB
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>>61122067
It's using game drivers.
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>>61122045
Citation
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when is it likely that a decent review will be out? jesus christ, i'd be ok with ltt

also made (you) look.
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I love AMD so fucking much is causes hilarious amounts of shitposting.
>>61122041
Halo products sell the mainstream.
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>>61122087
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>>61122038
What a fantasy world you live in.
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>>61122046
>what is a prosumer workstation card
>what is a consumer gaymur card
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There are more tests, with a 10% difference between worst and best.

https://videocardz.com/70541/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-lands-in-the-hands-of-the-first-owner
It's throttling, wait for somethingTM
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>>61122071
Wrong. https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1080/review
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>>61122026
>22916 graphics score
>10% high than 1080

Guru3d fail on this one
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>>61121136
> they want to brush it under the rug
How it's possible if it's going to be out eventually?
>>61121691
This.
> Implying I game at least every week
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>tfw just bought a FreeSync 144Hz monitor

I have an RX 480 and going to RX Vega will be like buying a 1070 (20% performance increase)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i should've bought a G-Sync monitor for double the price and gotten a 1080Ti fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>61121999
Fury is the basis for Vega.
Vega is the basis for Navi.
If he has had no input on these processors, what the fuck is he doing besides throwing ice cream socials with the cool kids?
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>>61122135
How are all of you getting this fucking wrong it's right on their website https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1080/review

>3DMark GPU Score: 21920
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weren't these first skews meant for workstations? like a quadro or firepro card.
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>>61122134
Do you know what AIB means?
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How retarded you have to be to think that r/amd mods remove this shit in attempt to damage control? I mean you cant be this stupid, right? Its most probably fake and they dont want the subreddit to get filled with spam and shitposting laughing at AMD and asking to fire Raja. Just remember that desktop shortcut to Doom Beta accident. Just wait for normal benchmark before turning into autistic mess pretending they were going to buy 999$ professional GPU anyway.
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>>61122148
>Fury is the basis for Vega
Wrong.
>Vega is the basis for Navi.
Right.
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>>61122150
Nobody bought the reference...
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>>61122153

but AMD has a dedicated webpage for VEGA FE's "Gayming Mode"
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Anandatech probably will be first to get one. I'd wait for them.
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>>61122176
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>>61122174
Don't gaslight me faggot. Vega is Fury with optimizations so it's not a piece of shit. Theoretically.
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>>61122153
These are "prosumer" cards, like the OG Titan.
>>61122182
I hope so.
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>>61122179
why would you write this and not post the link to it?
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So lemme get this str8:
Vega is 2x the price of a 1080 for 90% the performance?

All I can say I'm astonished
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>>61122191
Vega is to Fury as Maxwell is to Fermi.
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>crybabies over at /r/amd posting screenshots of their Nvidia graphic card purchase receipts
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>>61121757
> Fury
Half-baked card, but props for trying HBM.
> Polaris
Literally nothing wrong with that, 290X and higher level of performance for half the power and half the price.
> Vega
We've yet to see.

Those discussions are pointless right now. Find something better to do.
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>>61122202
All I can say is you're a dipshit that didn't read the thread and doesn't know what a prosumer workstation card is.
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>>61122206
No. Kepler, at best.
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wait for ryzen
wait for vega
wait for navi

how long are these fuckers going to be waiting
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>>61122105
>I love AMD so fucking much is causes hilarious amounts of shitposting.
It's fucking pathetic is what it is.
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>>61122220
Wut? Kekler was a cutdown Thermi with everyone housefire-enabling thrown out of the window, including FP64. In no way Vega is Kekler.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6k0wln/have_you_decided_to_wait_for_rx_vega_or_did_you/

GENTOOMEN UNITE

VOTE "WAITING FOR VEGA" IN THE POLL
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>>61122224
Waiting for Ryzen was legit a good idea, even if you think its trash it caused a significant price drop for Intels. Waiting for Vega was only a good idea after the cryptoshit
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>>61122234
We will see in July.
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>>61122255
>we
Who?
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>>61122243
No it didn't, all it did was give i3's HT.
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>>61122264
The public. Unless you have an inside track st AMD.
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>>61122281
>the public
Who? No one buys Radeon for gayming since forever.
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>>61122242
MODS
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>>61122270
They did drop prices on their HEDT lineup. Although they only went from obscenely overpriced to just stupidly overpriced.
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>>61122255
You mean August+
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>>61122289
20% market share.
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>>61122224
Ryzen is legit
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>>61121221
Nvidia is postponing volta due to knowledge the shit of vega
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>300W card struggling against 180W card

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>61122298
Means nothing when 970 is the best selling card in history.
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>>61121087
GET REKT GREENS <------ lmao that was a dank meme i r89 r9001 390/3.5gb of v for vendetta ram, novidiots be like do a 1080 and walk awayy lmao, 144 wayy sly novideo grillforce gtx 480 clocked at 3.5hz 1080p 3.5 fps gimpworks edition, human eye can see only 3/5 ram anyways, nivea water boiler titanal FE(fanboy edition) at 3.5p, envidia fryforce shitan rascal 1080shiTi at 87.5% GTX(GetTheXtinguisher) (ngreedia pisscal thermi "malware experience" burning sillayy bridges edition with GreedSync support) + krappy fake $hilltel gore i$emen at 7700K (Kelvin) maybelake i911 delidlake cancer core jewtel 2066 killowatt "cooler not included in a box" coffin lake "end of life" edition at 0.90 GHz (a.k.a. Inferno Bridge) inteLELite "another late edition" <------ i0 r8 dat meme 2400/3200 of dance dance revolution ram. 8GiB? What do you need 4GiB for? I'm giving you 3.5GiB! mumble mumble 3.5!?!?!? mumble mumble mumble 390?!?!?!
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>>61122296
July 30th, Sig-Graph.
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>wccftech spam
>plebbit spam
>amd spam
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>>61122303

DELET THIS
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>sandbagging
>gaming benchmarks for non-gaming cards
I think we should cap select posts ITT and repost them when RX hits
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>>61122307
Yup. And Vega is supposed to crack that open.
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>>61122308

>1080Ti conveniently not benchmarked
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>>61122307
And Incel igpus are the most popular gaming setup
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>>61122202
What is Titan X
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>>61122328
What's the point? Dipshits are just going to find the worst performing game for RX Vega and spam it over and over. Report and move on.
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So let me get this straight?
Same performance as a 300$ 1060 OC but for 3x the price?

All I can say is I'm flabbergasted.
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>>61122217
>doesn't know what a prosumer workstation card is.
No one knows what a "prosomer" card is, or what they're for.
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>>61122311
Welcome to /g/, friend.
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>>61122341
Its on par with Titan.
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>gaymers can't fathom a card not meant for gaymen
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>>61122341

Fucking this!
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>>61122359
no that's actually not close to reality by any stretch of the imagination

this is what shilling does folks
>>
aren't these workstation cards? are there even gaming drivers for them?
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>>61121087
>workstation card
>gaymes
ayy lmao, novidiots are tired of being out of the loop for a while
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>>61122370

isn't that a 2 year old card? Could be wrong but Nvidia's fucking naming scheme is horrible. There is like 3 cards named "Titan" already (not counting distinct ones like Titan X/Z etc)
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>>61122384
>are there even gaming drivers for them?
No drivers no
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>>61122365
>No one knows what a "prosomer" card is
I don't know either, what the fuck is a "prosomer"?
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>>61122366
>Welcome to /g/, friend
The ride was fun while it lasted.
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>>61122384

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6jtm60/radeon_vega_frontier_edition_has_a_gaming_mode/
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So lemme get this str80?
3yo 980ti performance in Q3 2017 for 1000 dollars USD?

All I can say I'm traumatized.
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>>61121087
I aboslutely love the look of this thing, any chances of other AMD GPUs adopting a similar style?
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>>61122148

Vega finally drops GCN for a new micro-architecture and has an overhauled memory architecture so no, Fury is not the basis for Vega.

The point is he had no way of dramatically altering Fury or Polaris architecture or components as they were too far down in the chip pipeline by the time he arrived. Most he could do was back-end optimizations but that shouldn't be where you start. Vega represents the first architecture where he will have had significant direction in terms of the design and Navi will be the first architecture where the whole thing is on him. As consumers none of this shit should really matter, but the assertion was made that all these fuckups are his (aside, Polaris wasn't bad). Judge him for Vega and Navi, but it doesn't really make sense to judge him for Fury and Polaris because he was brought in as an architect, not a back-end guy.
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I wonder how much it's throttling.
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>>61121136
prob because perfromance numbers are still on NDA
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>>61122399
Wrong. But who knows how well they have optimized
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>>61122401
Youtubers and people with more money than sense.
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So vega flopped. whats next. can we hope for the crypto market to crash and die so I can buy a decent gpu again now that vega is dead on arival
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1070 performance for $1000? All I can say is I'm literally shaking.
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>>61122401
>prosomer
Typo for prosumer. It's when marketing knows they have a shit product, but need to charge a lot for it.
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>>61121087
Don't fail to notice that these scores are coming with six months old drivers.
The majority of the driver for Vega had to be redone from zero, game drivers will only ship with RX Vega.
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>CTRL+F "(You)
>15 results
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>>61122395
Nah its current titan Pascal, dude.
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>>61122438
So your shitpost flopped. What's next? Can we hope you stop being an enormous faggot? Not likely.
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>>61122372
>>61122384
pro cards have historically performed very close to consumer cards. this should be no exception. in Frontier's case, it was tested with "gaming" drivers. allegedly.

with that said, there's still a lot of stuff up in the air
>this is a single result from a random nobody without a proper test bench
>there's a lot of head room for driver and/or engine improvements. Polaris gained like 15% DX11 perf in its first month
>GCN perf has always been all over the place, we don't yet know how it performs under ideal conditions

I recommend you stay cautiously pessimistic. add that 1080 Ti to your cart but don't check out just yet.
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When you switch to gaming mode Radeon Pro Vega becomes Radeon Vega. It has the same options for overclocking, game profiles etc. It's the same driver just a different control panel.


Having said that, an FX Vega will have a 10-15% higher perf due to optimization and OC and whatnot, so in par with a 1080.

Problem is pricing. No way Aymd can sell the FX Vega lower than 700$.

R I P
I
P
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>>61122427

VEGA FE was officially launched yesterday Pajeet

CEO of AnandTech confirmed that no one in the tech journalism received a review sample (probably because Vega is DOA)
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>>61122450
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>>61122446
Well guess OG Titan is a shit product NVidia was charging a lot for, then. Thanks for clearing that up, retard.
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>>61122445
This is pro-budget card, made to compete with 4000bux cards, it was said that this isn't games card billions of times
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>>61121720
Why they compare with Titan and not a p6000 Quadro?
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>>61122463
>No way Aymd can sell the FX Vega lower than 700$.
[Citation Needed]
>>61122468
NVidia and AMD both don't send out review samples of workstation cards you cuck.
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>>61122429
LOL, so what now /g/? You should stop the gameshaming.
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>>61122482
Because Vega FE is not Vega WX.
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>>61122482

Both Titan and Vega are "prosumer" cards, meaning that they can do workstation tasks but don't cost 4000 bucks. You can still gayme on them but you typically don't buy them primarily for that
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>>61121087
Keep these threads going.

The more AMD stock drops before rx Vega, the more I can buy, before it hops up again
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>>61122472
>OG Titan
>Not shit
Did you buy one of these for your workstation?
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THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD THIS IS NOT A GAMING CARD

t. AMD
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>You're Raja
>HBM2 is way too expensive, RX Vega GPU is not as fast as GP102 , Prices can't lower to a competitive level due to production cost.
>What do you do?
>>
So let me get this straight?
My 480x2 setup is MORE powerful and I bought it 1 year ago for 750$?

All I can say is I'm flummoxed.
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>>61122515
Should've jumped on at $2.
>>
I love AMD-related shitposting so much.
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>>61122542
I did, at about $3.50, but unfortunately had to sell around $5 because of a family emergency. Feelsbadman
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>>61122542
Did u?
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>>61122503
>You can still gayme on them but you typically don't buy them primarily for that
You just described every amd gpu ever.
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>>61122532

Take all manufacured cards and mine Etherum for profit
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>>61122532
back to ribbit
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>>61122564
>HBM
No.
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>AMD made a mistake by not providing any sample to reviewers. As a result, the first benchmarks resultare from a random user, who is not even familiar with Radeon Settings and doesn’t even have proper PSU (550W) for Vega.

LITERALLY the first line in the article.
Geez, the shills are out in force today
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>>61122517
You can blubber all you want, fact is Huang saw the Titan was cutting into their Quadro sales and removed the workstation drivers. The way you're meant to be played.
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>>61122468
still literally no reviews or any infromation about the card, its still prob under nda dumbass
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>>61122593
You're point? How does that change the fact that this Vega gpu is overpriced shit?
It's not a gaming card, or a workstation card, so "prosumer"?
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>>61122587
Gee I wonder why AyMD didn't provide any samples?

They realized that no amount of gibs could save them from absolutely disastrous reviews

They'll try to move some stock b4 reviews and this thing becomes unsellable


Wouldn't be surprised if the gaming version is outright scrapped already and only exists on paper
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>>61122615
It's a halo product like the fury x2 not to be purchased.
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>>61122617
Nobody provides review samples for workstation cards, including Nvidia, you mong
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>>61122617
Are you fucking retarded, Bajesh?
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>>61122617
Amd was stressing how this card is not for gaming for about a month before release
>gee why didn't they give it to reviewers to test on games
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>>61122646
Assuming you're right: then they fucked up, as gaymen mags are just gonna test it and piss on them for sucking at gaymen and bitter about not having got gibs ;(

By the time the fabled gaymen version is out the PR will be so bad it'll be DOA unless by some miracle it's actually good
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>AMD made a mistake by not providing any sample to reviewers. As a result, the first benchmarks resultare from a random user, who is not even familiar with Radeon Settings and doesn’t even have proper PSU (550W) for Vega.

wow you can smell the buttblasting through the screen
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>>61121087
>literally $2.07 per GB/s of memory throughput
This belonged in the dumpster in 2015. Death to ATI.
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>>61122503
Yet Titan is superior. Every customer I have on modelling is using Quadro. Even cheaper quadros have better modelling performance. I bet a p2000 can beat this shit and is cheaper.
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>AMD releases Skylake-X in GPU form

Lol
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>>61122626
Vega is a halo product in price only not performance.
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>>61122686
>Every customer I have on modelling is using Quadro
that's about software support, friend
>>
r/g-ayymd is here to clean up thread bois. This thread is now designated.
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
Not gonna lie, former AMD supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Rajesh crash and burn.. But in all seriousness we can't let this company get the nuclear codes!
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>beats the pants off Titan XP with first round workstation drivers
>loses to 1080 in gaymes

If you think this is a due to anything, but a lack of drivers, you're a goddamn idiot.
>>
>>61122587

poop in your fist
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>>61121087

Looks like AMDs commitment in HBM is working about as well as Intels RDRAM strategy in early 00's.
>>
SO HOW FAST IS IT WHEN IT'S NOT THROTTLING


HELLO PEOPLE
>>
an AMD fan boy here!!!

OK.. R9 290X = 390X = RX 480 and RX580...
OMG F U amd.. this is cruel!
I just brought a 1080ti... I blame you AMD!!! this is what happens when you stay quiet and dont present to the market...

its been too quiet.
Just got this 1080ti, is seriously meeting all my 4K needs!!
truly disappointed!! I hope AMD reads this as truly im disappointed!!
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>>61122725
(you) first
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>>61122720
It lost to a card that doesn't use workstation drivers.

A fucking P4000 (which has an even further cutdown GP104 core than the 1070 has) beat it in the same benchmarks it beat a Titan XP.
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>>61122720
>If you think this is a due to anything, but a lack of drivers
This just in. "AN AMD PRODUCT LACKS DRIVERS SURPRISING NOBODY".
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>>61122719

t. intel concern troll division
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>>61121087
For fuck's sake, Vega is not a gaymen card, a $1000 card is not for poor Vidia Gaymers
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>>61121705
>retards keep posting extreme overclock results as a comparison
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dank mayms
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>>61122752
Obviously there's a lack of certification in that app going, else the pro duo wouldn’t do so badly.
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>>61121087
this is what happen if you pick pajeet who always willing to be underpaid to be your CEO
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>>61122752

>a card that costs 4 times more than Vega is better

wow big fucking BTFO there, Reuben Goldstein
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So that means what i allready expected...Even with no Gaming Drivers this card should have performed greater then a FuryX which is not the case... 3 Years wainting for a new tech, which is slower and more power hungry then Fiji...OMG, Vega FE is not even close to a 1080Ti...AMD needs to find a fast replacement for Koduri, take them from Nvidia please... from que quality point of view it should not be hard to find a better replacement, and honestly i dont expect the RX Vega to be much faster then this and if yes just in a few Benchmark tools, because i dont see this apllied in real scenarios like Games... This Vega FE tryes to be everything, unfortunately its nothing... does not perform in efficiency, does not perform like a 1 Year old card the 1080ti, nor even gets close to Quadro cards... I dont even will talk about poor volta...Raja you have definately just done a big mess.
>>
why the fuck has that guy got his GPU hours ago and no real reviewer has yet to get one???
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>>61122813
>Obviously there's a lack of certification in that app going, else the pro duo wouldn’t do so badly.
This happens slot with amd workstation cards. They lack something, or another, but it's not their fault.
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>>61122835
>Lisa Su
>pajeet
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>>61122845
(You), Bajeet.
>>
This thread is poo-din.
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1080 ti performance? What do you need 1070 performance for?
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AMD=pwned am I correct guys?
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>>61122841
A shipping error probably. Almost everyone else is getting their cards on the 29th.
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>>61122853
>Bajeet
T. Raja streetpooper
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>>61122884
t. Leather jacket man
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A Fury X at 1125 MHz beats that Vega score.
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>Crimson 17.1.1 driver

that's like a 7 month old driver holy shit. We are at 17.6.2 now or something

17 (Year). 1 (month). 1 (day). So his driver was released on 2017-01-01
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>>61122539
Your 480x2 don't have m.2 slots on them.
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>>61122845
Why do you think the same hardware is sometimes twice as fast on the professional drivers? Certification you dumb retard.
That doesn't take a day, and this is AMD's fault, or whoever they're working on.
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>>61122852
>raja koduri
>not pajeet
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>>61122907

fucking this Vega will beat SLI 1080Ti
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>>61122909
vega FE doesn't have m.2 slots, only radeon pro ssg will
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Vega is DO A. If you wanted this performance it came out a year ago as a gtx 1080. Amd failing again..
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>>61122910
>Certification you dumb retard.
>That doesn't take a day, and this is AMD's fault, or whoever they're working on.
So you have the same viewpoint as me, but you're arguing with me while calling me the retard?
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>>61122930
In the press release it says Vega FE supports up to 256GB of expandable video memory
>>
AMDrones CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
AMD BTFO
HOW WILL AMD EVER RECOVER
>>
>>61122912
he's not CEO
>>
So lemme get this straight?
I could buy a 1050ti right now and enjoy 80% of a VEGA performance for 1/10th the price?

All I can say is I'm stupefied
>>
>>61122966
What? Vega SSG support up to 2tb of onboard NVMe storage.
>>
>>61122912
>raja koduri
>CEO
>>
>waiting on Radeon
>not just using Ryzen-NVIDIA master race

Its like you actually prefer OpenCL over CUDA
>>
>>61121398
That was always where I guessed it to be, and in a year or two it will be a bit better than a 1080ti. Let's hope they price it accordingly.
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>AMD STOCK: -40%
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>>61122979
Vega SSG and Vega FE are different fucking products, SSG wouldn't need to exist if FE could address the same amount of storage.
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>Vega is a stepping stone
>It's not a gaymen card
>the drivers are bad
>just wait for RX vega
>Tfw 300w tdp
>>
NEW THREAD

>>61123026

>>61123026

>>61123026
>>
>>61122993
SELL
SELL
SELL
SELL
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>>61121584
This. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this retardation. Vega 10 uses HBM, so as long as AMD doesn't go full retard with voltages it should be fine.
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>>61123013
Idunno man. "Some guy" that has a Vega FE on 6 months old drivers. Doesnt sound very credible to me desu. People going apeshit like retards.
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It's always the same with team RED just like Ryzen.

>wait 2 years
>get 4yo performance
>at the same price
>AYMDrones lappin it up bc "fux the system"

>rinse&repeat
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>>61123051
>>at the same price
>350$ vs 1000$
I understand that ur trolling but cmon man.
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>>61123051
AMD good ATI bad
>>
>350 posts
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>>61123070
fps per dollars Ryzen is the same of 2500k stock
So not trolling, in fact I'm being very generous
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>>61123106
>fps
>fps
>fps
>>>/v/
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>>61123106
>FPS per dollar
>8 core chip
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>>61122754
>a workstation card lacks gaming drivers

STOP THE PRESSES
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>>61123106
Yeah man I use software renderers too so I can play 1024 instances of quake at the same time.
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>>61123106
>2500k
>4 core
Heh...
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>>61122993
What?
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>>61123106
>fps per dollar
I wonder how the i9s would stack up
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>>61122147
>RX 480
>20% behind 1070

I think you meant 50 to 70 percent or are AMD shills on this board so fucking delusional that their Poolaris GPUs magically gained another 20 fps since December? Do you even know how percent works?
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>>61123229
>magically gained another 20 fps

IT'S CALLED FINEWINE LOOK IT UP, FAGGOT :^)
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>>61123229
>50 to 70
ok, now it's you who's being retarded
>>
>61122617
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)
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>>61122671
>gibs
>gaymen

Can you talk normally, or are you an inbred moron?
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>>61123457
normalfag spotted
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>>61122907

Huh, actually true. Why would the fucker install such an old driver?

How come that this driver even works with this new card at all?
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>>61121087
>Wanted to jump to this from a 1565/2100 980 Ti
Fuck my life.
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>>61123528
Wrong. It's just GPU-Z reporting the driver incorrectly as confirm in the thread.

AMD fanboi here but AMD=DEAD sorry
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>>61123493

I don't particularly frequent reddit, but I will gladly admit to being rather successful in my life outside of 4chan (education, job, girlfriend, etc.)

So I don't really get your "criticism"

Captcha is summer btw., might explain your retarded posts
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>>61121446
Titans are simple money grabs. And I use Nvidia cards. It's for retards with too much money.
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>>61123566
>be you
>normalfag
>come on 4chin
>mock 4chinners for 4chin slang
>call others retarded
>brag about whatever cubicle job you got on /g/
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>>61121087
>500 billion shitposts ITT
>mods deleted one of them >>61121656

Sasuga, janitors.
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>>61123566

Your gf is cheating on you
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>>61122303
That feel when some "COLORFUL" 1070 is pretty much at Vega performance XD
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>>61124015
Kill yourself, retard.
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>>61124048
Stay mad, stay poor.
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>>61124126
>that feel when some retard cocksmoking shitposter thinks a 4,400 point difference is "pretty much the same"
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>>61121182
What's Navi?
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>>61124456
Supposedly MCMed GPUs, if that's ever possible.
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>>61121087
This is a workstation GPU, if you want to compare gayming performance, compare it to Quadro, that one performs oh-so-well in gayming now doesn't it?

You're just setting yourself up to shit your pants when the gaming VEGA is out.
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>>61121915
I agree. Plus I still remeber the MSI director (whatever he is) saying that vega has good performance but consumes a lot of power. So I expect that this benchmark is not really to be taken seriously.
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You can see every comment by the idiot that ended up with the FE card right here. Notice how he has no clue what he's doing and admits the 550 watt PSU isn't enough! He's also running it in a tiny case that doesn't have nearly enough airflow.

https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/
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>>61124861
He admits the PSU isn't enough because gaymers on plebbit think it needs a 900 W PSU to perform better and bombard him with comments. They're just grasping at straws.
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>>61121087
Why is everyone suddenly forgetting that the blue card is cut down?
The golden card with the AIO is the full die.
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>>61124916
Well, the shit case isn't helping either. I'm still standing by the idea that if FE Vega is performing at 1080 levels under these crap conditions, RX Vega will certianly come close or match the 1080 ti.
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>>61124916
I don't buy the PSU thing but even he admitted it was throttling, and according to http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Vega-Codename-265481/News/AMD-Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-GPU-Takt-1231795/

1382MHz is the average frequency on the blower cooler.
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He's not even using the correct drivers lol.
He is using 17.1.1.
The release driver is 17.20.
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>>61125012
No, he is using the correct drivers, GPU-Z is just reading the version wrong.
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>>61123043
Vega 10 uses retarded HBM though.
Lower bandwidth than the gddr5x Nvidia uses.
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>>61121577
BS, an undervolted /underclocked big gpu will be always more efficient than the small ones.
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>>61121166
Just wait amd will beat 1080 eventually
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>>61121425
Literally just wait
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>>61125193
>gotta get in that last minute shitpost before archive!
>even though the thread is already full of retarded shitposts!
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>>61125159
By then the GTX 2060 will have equal performance to the 1080Ti and the 2080Ti will game at 8k/144fps
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>>61122461
Isn't Vega a completely different architecture? Any gaming drivers it has right now might be rudimentary at best, since they focused on workstations.
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>>61125251
Primitive Shaders are not working for now. It still handles 4triangles/clock.
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>>61125246
>Big die Pascal is gonna let me gayme at 8k 144fps!
Then you woke up, Huang.
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>>61121195
RIP Based Nasser
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Seriously fuck this I'm done with AMD
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>>61125522
>Not a new IP in the thread
Samefag all you want, thread's already toast.
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>>61125522
We can always wait 4 more years since it seems that AMD needs 6 years between succesful products
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Put me in the screencap xD
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