/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

>Come home
>Unplug Charger and Battery
>Install new 8gb of ram and SSD into x200t
>Turn on computer
>One short beep, pause, three short beeps, pause, three more short beeps, and one short beep.
>Unplug battery for 20 mins and wait
>Turn on power again
>Same pattern

What else do I do bros? The Lenovo website is shitting itself, and pressing the only link to salvation (" Click here to diagnose the error code") doesn't fucking work.

youll play darksouls/

just got a thinkpad x61 for free. runs pretty hot. should i re-apply thermal paste?

if dubs ill watch porn with volume on

>>61082863
1-3-3-1 is either system board or RAM

check your RAM, friendo

>>61082921
yes, always reapply thermal paste

>>61082921
>>61082932
what

>>61082951
youll talking too me?what

>>61082921
fuck porn, watch hentai instead (aka cartoon porn).
Volume to the max.

>>61082974
give me your best cartoon porn then

>>61082932
I forgot to mention that when i plug in the old ram, it still doesn't work. i seriously doubt its the something in the motherboard cause i was using it yesterday fine

>>61082974
>>61082967
playing dark souls rn?

>>61082980
http://hentaihaven.org/kanojo-x-kanojo-x-kanojo-episodes-1-3-uncensored-marathon/
>inb4 someone recommends bokunopico

>>61082484
>>61082349
I just had to fix it a couple more times. Since it isn't soldered, it seems to be prone to moving out of place. I'm typing on it now, and I screwed in the keyboard, but I'm still scared.

>>61082822
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), Dell Latitude/Precision (E6440) and T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

Kill yourself

>>61082982
clear cmos, try it one a time. don't install sdd yet.

>>61083093
awesome i'll give it a whirl bro

downloading it in 480p because i avoid commitments

>>61083247

thermal grizzly kryonaut.

>>61083372
Is Cooler Master a bad brand for thermal grease? I applied some HTK-002 on my T530 because that's the only thing I had around at the time...

>>61083829
It's better than stock.

But something like arctic mx4 or noctua nt h1 is really cheap and provides good performance.

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>buy X230 with 9-cell battery
>calibrate battery once when I get it, says about 48Wh left
>good enough
>actually need to use the battery
>inconsistent readings between Windows and Linux, and 48Wh should get like 5 hours not 2-3
>recalibrate again
>30Wh

fuckkk guess it's time to get a new battery

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>replace dying mini pci wireless adapter with 7$ usb adapter
>no more connectivity issues
>3x the speed
>and another hour of battery life
huh, didnt expect that one
for any oldpad thinkfags on here, replace your pci adapters with a tp link 750n
my T42 is a happy lad now

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Any archfags know how to get the media-keys working?
volume / screen brightness works out of the box with gnome, kde, xfce4 but not with a fresh install + i3

>>61082822
Best thinkpad for 100% freedom.

>>61084243
>using winXP
You fucking idiot, STOP
>for any oldpad thinkfags on here, replace your pci adapters with a tp link 750n
>usb
Fuck that gay shit. I use PCMCIA cards instead. Also one of my computers doesn't have usb port nor wlan-card.

>>61084296
Define 100% freedom. You'll have to compromise somewhere.

Just get a x200 and libreboot that shit.

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How do I shine the outer casing of my x220 with make it look brand new?

I'm not selling it or anything but it looks so worn out now

>>61084436
I'd like to know this too, I don't like how mine looks, been thinking about wynil wrapping it.

>>61084436
just buy another lid

Is a T400 for $60 a good deal? I just want a system that lets me watch animu, shitpost on /g/, play GBA games, and write simple code.

>>61084572
no

>>61083950
Is it supposed to cost $15 for just a gram?
Guess I could give it a try, both seem to be better than those thermal pastes based on metallic compounds.

help please :'(

I bought a y700 ideapad acz (I know, terrible idea, amd is shit and all, but I'm fucking broke and guy was selling it cheap) but the game performance is fucking GARBAGE, the dedicated gpu does not seem to be working properly. I've tried updating drivers, switching power modes, everything, and I still can't even get a solid 60fps on fucking runescape. I know i am a retard for buying this but is there anything I can do to make it work properly? I've seen this laptop play battlefield one and ff15 no problem but mine can barely run tyranny

>>61084631
>Is it supposed to cost $15 for just a gram?
???which one?

mx4 and noctua are usually $7 or $8 for 3 or 4 grams on amazon.

>>61084661
>Price goes up to $25
Man, why can't we tacos have nice things, too?

>>61084712
Blame aduanas.

>>61084354
XP is fine anon, especially for an old system like this, I could by all means do Ubuntu or something but then I dont get to use this machine for its current purpose
>old ass games
I'm not retarded and I can avoid malware and shit
PCMCIA is more expensive and due to age, probably wouldnt perform as well and id need an antenna for many models I could get for cheap
Also I took out my PCMCIA brackets to get better cooling (sounds like BS but it does actually work)
If youre running something so old it doesnt have USB you should by all means use PCMCIA
But this was a 7$ upgrade for an old ass machine and I think anyone with a _20/30/40 with a spare usb port should get one

>>61084436
50/50 acetone and water
Lightly applied with a soft sponge
Errodes the plastic and creates a new sheen
Just be aware that if you let it sit wet it may damage the plastic

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/tpg/ how do I get used to this??

>>61085079
you just do

>>61085079
get a (3d) gf (female)

>>61085079
raise sensitivity and mouse speed way up, disable touch pad

>>61084660
is there anything running in the background? what cpu/gpu specifically? you're talking about RS3, right? You're using the NXT client and have messed with the game settings as well, right?

>>61085100
Cant really disable touchpad because there is now touchpad and trackpoint options just one option called touchpad

>>61085123
>>61085100
How do I make it two separate options?

Anybody buy a ultrabay HDD caddy for a T420? Which one did you get?

Swapping *230 keyboard with *220 one is totally worth it, guys. It kinda just feels better for typing. It's so easy, just a few screws, some electrical tape and a little file work. It works without any controller flashing, but some of the buttons will be mislabeled. You can get used to it, though.

is there any way to get the grip of a slice battery on a T420s? I can't live without it and I have no clue how to get it. Can't get another thinkpad cuz every other one doesnt fit my requirements (mainly coreboot and fhd IPS screen, also a somewhat strong iGPU, stronger than shitty intel integrated graphics 3000, thats why I use one with Nvidia NVS 4000m)

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>>61084926
I was just fucking with you. My T40 still needs work (and I pray to god I can get replacement keyboard cheap because too lazy to clean it).
It's often hard decision when GNU/Linux can do a lot more than XP but the support for games and other weird software is non existant on Ubuntu or Linux in general. Not worth the time to fuck around with wine.
>I'm not retarded and I can avoid malware and shit
I was thinking. Even if you get malware and your hdd gets encrypted, does it really matter? I mean you can always nuke the hdd and install the soft again. But then I am not sure how would I nuke the hdd safely without using USB devices. Would it need Cd and right soft to do the job (like gparted)
Nevertheless, I have thought of getting a usb wlan due its convenience, so I don't have to configure a shit ton of networking to create complicated system when each machine can connect to the main router.

Also support on Linux on a shitty HP laptop that I have have got me insane. This stupid shit and shitty linux drivers just won't work the way it's supposed to. It's all so tiresome. Might as well install gentoo on this.
>mfw thinkpad 701cs win95 bluescreens and is piece of fucking shit

>>61085387
chiclet is better

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Do you guys think I could run FFXIV on a T400? If not, could I upgrade the GPU internally?

>>61086370
No, if you're looking for upgradable GPUs you need a laptop with MXM graphics.
I believe saucey's guide has some info on that, and if you're adamant about leaving 1st Gen, there was one model by HP with MXM graphics, can't remember the model, though...

>>61086459
I want to get a Thinkpad with good performance as well as a good screen/keyboard/track pad, but holy fuck every model seems to have a problem. ~~20 and 30 have shit screens, 40 and above have shit track pads, etc.

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>>61082921
Right palmrest is hot?
Middleton bios and cooler running wifi card.
>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Middleton%27s_BIOS
New thermal paste wouldn't be bad, it'll take awhile to disassemble and the screws are a fun mess if you get them mixed up.

>>61084354
Autism detected
It runs better with the USB dude, who cares about the aesthetic, its not a macbook.

>>61084572
If it has a good battery, its a good buy.
It should handle GBA games with ease, I played Saturn roms w/ my X61T.

>>61084660
>i'm broke
>I decided to buy a gaming laptop
>it doesn't work like it should :(
go to /sqt/ next time

>>61086477
The thing is that modern ThinkPads are heavily criticized from old models by enthusiasts. These are the 'problems', they don't meet the standard of the old guard.

The T440 can have its touchpad replaced with the T450.
>if I have to do that, I might as well buy a T450
THERE YOU GO SHIT FUCK, SOLVED YOUR FUCKING ISSUE

Oh and guess what dipshit. All good ThinkPads have non-gaming GPUs, so gaming will SUCK.

You could get an M6600, swap in a 7970, 680m or try an 880m from Alienware machines.

Honestly you should just a gaming laptop, because you're literally basing performance off just gaming and not what they were meant for.

Don't ask for a recommendation when you don't even talk about your budget.

>>61085079
you don't, it's a meme.

>>61086370
>>61086459
eGPU
G
P
U

eGPU via Express card is the solution.

Is there any place where I can buy dankpads with bitcoins?

Apart from Newegg, which stopped using this kind of payment earlier this year.

>>61084262
xbindkeys, then have them set to commands like

amixer set Master 5%-

or

xbacklight -inc 10

>>61084123
is x230 better than x220?

What's that retro thinkpad going to be?

I'm running linux on a X220 and the keyboard's audio volume/activation buttons seem to be locked. What package do I need to unlock them?

>>61088685
Nevermind, I had to untick an option in the sound manager.

Where can I find a caddy adaptor for my new W530 that fits it well. I just bought one but it's shit.

So I already have a t460s running arch and an x1 carbon running Ubuntu. But I wanted something that I could put into checked baggage while traveling that was both cheap and durable so I picked up a 3rd gen yoga x11e last week. Its a bit slow but man is it durable. Works great with Linux too.

Yeah it doesn't have a track point but I really don't care as I don't use it anyway. The trackpad leaves a bit to be desired but for $300 I am pretty happy. Especially given the 8 hours of battery life I am getting out of it.

>>61087361
>eGPU via Express card
How well does this shit work?

>>61082863
bumping my question

>>61082863
then did you try replacing the ssd with the old disc?

>>61087792
ya

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Thread died last time before I could see if it got any responses, but since the EEP discount is 33% right now I could get a P71 with the Xeon E3-1505M and Quadro P3000 for under $2000. Is it worth it, or could I get a better machine for the price?

>>61090506
i was thinking of upgrading from x220t to a modded x230, but peformance difference isnt that much is it? I'm better off saving enough money for a ux550?

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>>61082822
Master-race incoming.

Lasts for decades.

>>61088056
Probably a T series with IBM coloring.

Anons,

I'm looking for drivers for the X201 but apparently Lenovo has wiped them from the face of the earth. There's nothing on their website and even a serial number search doesn't find anything. Is there a place to get them or am I fucked?

>>61092209
drivers for what exactly

>>61092293
Intel HD Graphics for a start

>>61092304
did you try googling it

>>61089913
Desktop GPU
Dock
PSU

Plug power to the dock and GPU and shove the Expresscard to it's slot and you are done.

How much is too much for a thinkpad X220 in very good condition with a 120GB SSD and 8GB of RAM in a third world country

>>61092209
thinkpad forums

>>61085326
I bought a shitty one from Ali a few months back for 5 eurobucks. The quality is shit but it does an ok job of housing my ssd. The fucker falls out sometimes though.

/g/ please advise. Looking for a thinkpad with 8gb ram, and 500mb-1tb HDD. Preferably a non dogshit processor. Does this exist for under £250?

>>61092966
yes

>>61093054
Do you have any links/names? Amazon was useless.

>>61093066
T420, T520, or X220.

>>61093066
read the OP? every model you can replace the ram and hard drive

>>61093114
I'm not that tech literate so I was hoping to find one that came with it.

>>61092966
T420/430 with some upgrades
Many you can get for that price that already have 8gb of ram and a 1tb hdd on eBay
Processor upgrades are easy too if needed, but many resellers ship them with i5/i7's anyway

>>61093156
do you not know how to operate a screwdriver?

>>61093098
Thank you for your help.

>>61093169
I mean I could learn but I'm just going to be using it for school and a little at home. Is it much cheaper to DIY?

>>61093169
Let's be honest here, popping out your Thinkpad's keyboard for the first time is daunting. It always feels like it's about to snap or that you'll damage internal parts.

It isn't and you won't, but that's still a big hurdle to jump over if someone's never done any computer work themselves.

>>61093197
it could be cheaper but mostly it broadens your options

What doesn't work with the x230 keyboard swap? Can you swap it for a jp keyboard?

>>61093225
Alright. Is https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/ the onlywebsite i need to use or do you recommend other websites?

>>61093163
Thank you also

Has anyone with a dedicated GPU on the T420/30 tried overclocking the display?

It should work, and some people on notebookreview are getting pretty impressive monitor overclocks.

I want 100hz for that smooth silky feeling, but would have to swap out my mobo.

>>61093253
just google "how to replace hard drive on *model*", plenty of youtube guides etc

it's usually just one screw, old thing slides out, new thing slides in, replace screw

same with ram, except it pops out instead of slides out and sometimes the second ram slot under the keyboard

>>61093318
Alright thank you :)

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Who here _30?

>>61082822
What SSD fits in my x230? How do you find this stuff out in general?

>>61093619
any modern one should work (samsung evos for example) make sure its 7mm or less

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>>61085888
I've actually got one of these lying around, a spare T42 keyboard (though I think all T4x models use tbd same board)
Its clean as shit, nothing besides maybe a stray hair under the keys, but I dont use this one because the keys are worn to a sheen which I dont like at night.
Somewhere ive got another one new in box but I cant be assed to dig through my box of T42 parts.
>tfw stockpiled enough spare parts for your laptop to last 100 years.

Looking for something decent about £120~. Hopefully something that can run a game with these specs:
Processor: Intel Core i5 @ 2.0 GHz
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 / Radeon HD 7770

I know nothing about laptop gpu's would a T420 run this?

>>61094513
Thinkpads generally don't have gaming gpus and arent meant for gaming.
Yourr best off looking for a budget gaming machine.
Acer has a bunch of aspires with gtx 940m's in them for under 550$

>>61094612
I mostly want it for watching stuff in bed, being able to play Guilty Gear would have been a little bonus

>>61093513
New x230 here

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>>61083098
umad, trash

>>61095159
Is it better than good old 220?

is an X220 that's chipped in the corners and has a chinese keyboard worth $100? I just need something for school and I'd like a touchscreen so that I can write math problems on it.

>>61095289
You mean the X220 Tablet?

>>61082822
I bought the x220 today after a long time contemplating and I absolutely love it, I think that's the only thing I've seen work properly with OpenBSD also
Is it worth the effort to replace the thermal paste? Should I bring it to a professional? (I've never done that before and it seems complicated, having to remove all the 'layers' and a lot of stuff can go wrong)
Any other tips? Since it's a refurbished laptop, I haven't noticed anything too bad other than scuffs and shiny keys but I wanna play it safe

>>61095425
One more thing, I haven't managed to make the OS recognize the ThinkVantage button, I couldn't find anything BSD related on Google

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So im looking for more software for my Thinkpad 380ED that i can move via floppy disks.
I just dont have CD's to burn and im a broke ass motherfucker.
Also space is a concern, i have 2.1gb of space on the 380ED, in comparison the 6 albums on my T42 take up 608mb of space.

So i just want fun software. Sony SoundForge 4.5 was on there when i got it and its a blast to play with, but the piano it comes with cant actually be recorded? It requires either an actual piano to be plugged in via a sound card (guess what laptop from the 90's had dedicated sound ports, none) or a virtual piano.
Well i found a virtual piano and a wav visualizer, which are neat, and then i noticed the file size.
20 fucking kilobytes each. 20kb, thats fucking i could shove hundreds of copies of these programs on a floppy disk, its awesome
Why isnt more stuff like this today?
Theres a small array but still a decent set of sounds mashed into 20kb in this virtual piano.
Even if there were like 5000 midi sounds in it, it would still probably be under 1mb of space.
This is some god tier programming here.
http://www.pablosoftwaresolutions.com/
Any other suggestions for software like this? It can be anything, i just want some stuff to play around with on the machine.

Pic is my T42 testing it out, i have to move files from this to my G40 to put it on a floppy, then the G40 to the 380ED, and i cant be bothered right now

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>>61095712
This piano also has a "Panic" button under the Help menu.
Guess what it does
nothing

kek

"oh shit somehow my virtual piano has set my computer on fire! press the panic button!"

>>61093513

T a CUTE

Does the Lenovo Digital Download Recovery Service also install Windows, drivers, and Lenovo programs, or only Windows?

>>61090576
It's basically the most powerful Thinkpad you can get new
What do you want something that powerful for for?

Does your thinkpad have a context menu key?
I really wish mine did.

Shoving kingdian china ssd in a chinkpad.
Match made in heaven, or is it?

Bought

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-lenovo-thinkpad-IBM-X200-X200i-x201-AFFS-HV121WX4-120-HV121WX4-110-HV121WX4-100-Laptop-LCD/32749101631.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10178_10136_10137_519_10111_10060_10112_10113_10155_10062_10114_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10182_10059_303_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10096_10123_10189_10052_10053_10142_10107_142_10050_10051,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=cb9d8343-b315-4f73-b327-22e61e4de2bd&algo_expid=6a12eca7-2c84-4a29-97fa-726889f77824-0&algo_pvid=6a12eca7-2c84-4a29-97fa-726889f77824

Will post results when it comes in. It's supposed to be IPS like

i bought a new 70++ for my W530 since the 3 year old battery i have is down to like 15m battery life

I have a T430 with a 9 cell Lenovo battery and the battery hit its programmed die date and gave out. Literally overnight it went from holding a full charge that lasted hours to being incapable of charging.

Now I'm super pissed and don't want to feed Lenovo's battery scam but I read that this laptop won't boot if the battery isn't official Lenovo.

So am I fucked and I have to buy a $90 Lenovo 9 cell that is programmed to die in two years? Or are there any third party batteries that will work?

Clevo FTW, Thinkpad fags can fudge right off.

>>61096835
Greencell batteries, but apparently they aren't easy to get your hands on outside of Europe

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>>61096185
Gayman'. I've used Thinkpads in the past and can really appreciate everything they bring to the table, especially the robustness and dependability.

>inb4 gaming laptop reee

I know, desktops are better. I have one at home. But I work on a ship, so I actually need the portability in a laptop because I can't take the desktop with me. I don't have enough wall outlets for everything either. Plus, I want it to have some parity for a few years.

>>61096835
>I read that this laptop won't boot if the battery isn't official Lenovo
dafuq? I've been using chinkshit housefire batteries on my x220/x220t for 4 years with no problems. Is this a thing on the newer series?

>>61096866
I'm sort of in your position but not on a ship. I'm going to be moving around a bit for the next year so I want to cut down to one computer because that's what the insurance will cover, and have it be relatively portable.
I bought a T470 and an Akitio Node and both should be coming soon.
I've spent the equivalent of $1340 on the laptop and the Node, but I didn't need to buy a GPU because I already have a GPU I'm going to use in it

If you do decide the T470 and eGPU route, get a Mantiz MZ-02. It's only a bit more expensive than the Node, but has USB ports and a SATA connector. I didn't get it because after shipping and taxes it would have been extremely expensive

>>61096924
From the **30 or **40 series, they added that

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>>61096934
>eGPU

I...did not actually know that was a thing. That might work out even better, because I've got a GTX 970 in my desktop right now that I was about to upgrade when I got paid off.

>>61097024
Only problem with an eGPU is that you need to plug a monitor in to the eGPU to get the best performance. If you have the video pass back through to the laptop screen, expect to see anywhere from 10% to 20% loss of performance.

>>61097040
Oh. That might put a damper on things for the obvious reasons. Is that in general with laptop screens, or just older generations?

Reminder http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/16748/hacking/spy-agencies-ban-on-lenovo-pcs-due-to-backdoor-vulnerabilities.html

>>61097086
This is a thing in general with eGPU setups unfortunately

>>61097102
only a retard wouldn't A) do a complete fresh install of Windows, or B) install Linux

>>61097103
Well damn. I don't know if that would work for me, then.

>>61097190
Fair enough. You could look at a T470p. It includes a GTX 940m, but I don't know how it compares to a P3000 for gaymen.

>>61097216
GTX 940MX, not 940M
Passmark gives the 940MX a score of 1222, and the P3000 a score of 7324, but I don't know how well that translates into gaming performance.

I have a P50. Is it possible for me to have two external monitors connected and basically have the lid closed on the P50?

>>61097272
>>61097216
Thanks, cheers. I have a few months before I could take delivery of the thing, so I have a while to weigh my options.

>>61097297
yes you retard
>>61097331
the Apple eGPU represents a decent value since it has a RX 580

>>61097331
no problem

>>61097297
If you're using windows you might need to change some power settings.

>>61097358
don't you have to be an Apple dev to buy it?

>>61082822
Just got an x230 today, it feels REALLY cheap.

Anyone know of some legit T420 batteries?
Found this 9-cell from ebay that looks legit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-57Y4186-9-cells-w520-w510-t520-t510-t420-t410-sl510-battery-/332256533986?hash=item4d5c085de2:g:assAAOSwq~tZRo5j
Manufacturing date seems a little old and alot of the other ones are going for $69 or so, should I go for it or go someplace else?

>>61097453
well if it isn't genuine just return it

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>>61082863

Did you try config Bios?

>>61097102
>links http link
>to article on a fucking wordpress
Nice b8

>>61097534
cant get into bios. blank screen

>>61097102
tl;dr
>Lenovo is Chinese
>the Chinese government could tell them to load backdoors in a firmware update whenever they wanted to

the vulnerability is that it's Chinese, that's it, they didn't actually find anything

>>61083096
So yeah, it's fucked. Just sold it on ebay for way less than I should have.
But I'll ask: is $110 too little for an X220T with a fucked keyboard connector on the mobo? I thought no one would take it, honestly.

>>61097928
The ban was when Lenovo bought IBM's Thinkpad line up. If you have thinkpads that are pre-lenovo era then you should be fine. also
>what is libreboot
>what is Intel ME/AMT
Worry about those before than that chinese botnet.

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i installed all the battery stuff and battery life is still 15-20% worse on Linux than Windows

now what

Is it possible to upgrade a T410 screen? 1200x800 isn't doing it for me.

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Do you guys prefer the x230 or the x220?
And Why?

>>61090855
ahha good one
nice dubs

>>61096661
>that long as link.
Best of luck anon

>>61098084
Its working as its supposed to.

>>61093656
Thanks.

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>>61098904
but /g/ told me it should be comparable
how am i going to look like hacker on windows

Has anyone else tried this Ultrabay caddy? I plan to get it for my T530
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272416458906

>>61096395
Yeah

Repost from last thread.


Is there any recommendations on the newer 2 in 1 machines that are now making their way to refurbishment places? I can get something like a Dell Latitude 11 with the keyboard for around £200 or the older Venue 11 Pro for as low as £135. I'm in the market for a tablet and these seem better & cheaper than a shitty Chinese dual boot.

>>61082863
Ram is probably in the wrong slot.Try changing their position. If that dont work than maybe your shit dosn't support it

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Getting a T440S with FHD IPS display and T450 touchpad soon. What accessories should I buy with my chinkpad?

hello lads
dankpads is pretty unhelpful so i request some advice.

Budget: ~$300
Location: US
Size: 13-15, 11 if it has a larger than normal keyboard
Performance: programming, a GPU for vulkan
Other requirements: would prefer nice battery life but its not paramount.

Also obviously will be my linux box.

My T430 makes a popping sound when shutting down, what does this mean?

>>61100195
buy an x220t

>>61100273
why do you need GPU? if most of your intensive gpu applications are at a desk, your best bet is an x220 with eGPU and a 9-cell battery

>>61100539
Not a discrete/e one, just an IGU thats relatively new enough to support it. But i imagine thats a non-issue so it was probably dumb to specify.

>>61100498
As far as I know, it's just the audio process ending abruptly.

>>61100555
x230 has a much better IGU (50% better) and also better battery life. Problem is that (imo) the keyboard is not as good. You can swap in the x220 keyboard with a mod and a firmware flash tho.

I would recommend the x230, and if the keyboard is annoying then do the mod.

>>61100646
Alrighty, is there any special site for thinkpad selling and buying, or just the usual ebay/amazon/craigs?

>>61097374
no, it's for public sale.

it's essentially a sonnet breakaway box 350 that has a 580 in it, but apple have made some mods to the actual box, like removing a 6pin for instead better laptop charging capa.

>>61088056

14" 16:10 w/ classic keyboard and ULV processor

will also have thinklight, status leds

>>61100951
>ulv

dis-fucking-gusting

>>61100951
source?

>>61100983

my highly educated guess. will also have one thunderbolt 3 port which MAY support eGPU

>>61100709
ebay, get a bid sniper like jbid

>>61099374
another distro?

>>61100195
I've yet to use a 2 in 1 other than the original Helix.
it runs hot, I think it needs new thermal paste.

>>61100246
Get a mSATA and maybe a rando 64 or 128GB when they are like $25 at Fry's.

>>61100951
It would be weird if they went with ULV if it was still thicker than the T470.
Given how the market is, maybe they might be binded to use a ULV CPU.
It would be amazing if they had 3 audio ports w/ parallel and serial though.

Anyone have a x220? How is it? Thinking about getting one for business. I had too much fun on my t420 so now its just my game, porn, and shitpost machine

>>61082822
I just bought a T41 for 1 euro (without hdd) but im pretty sure that the gpu is broken, and how do i fit a ssd in that? pls help

>>61101361
and how do i fix gpu, just buy a new mainboard?

>>61101361
If the GPU is dead youre going to either have to bake the mainboard, and hope for the best, or get a replacement
An SSD is easy, any 2.5" PATA ssd will do, or a PATA to msata or something for an msata ssd
The gpu is a BGA chip soldered to the board and its not replaceable without some very special tools

If you can get a functioning board for under 20 youre still in the realm of "not wasting too much money" but any more and it would be better to just get a working T4x machine
I bought a 15" T42 for 10$ and found it had no HDD and the screen was dead
So I took the ram, processor, cooler and other little bits like the caddy cover and keyboard as spares for my working T42 instead
Wasnt worth dropping another 15-20$ on a screen and more on a new hdd

>>61101402
tnaks

Is it worth buying another 9cell battery or just buy another used T420 since it's only a little bit more

>>61101402
i might actually give reflow a shot

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Is the optic drive dying?
The LED on the tray keep blinking even though there's no DVD/CD in there.
And it can't read/burn CD/DVD sometimes.
>inb4 optic drive in 2017
It's need for small project archival.

So I'm looking for a decently portable laptop to supplement a reasonably high end desktop and gaymen laptop I've ended up with.
Only issue is I'm dealing in Australian FunBucks and between the local market and cost differences, $200 doesn't go as far as it would elsewhere.

>>61101831
is x220 under 200 in upsidedownland?

>>61101852
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/rowville/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x220/1141510816
This is what I've been able to find. Right on the edge of acceptable for price and I'm a little wary of an i3, but I think it might be my best bet.

Are the 470s series cancer? What's fucked about them?

T430 vs X230, both with classic keyboard and fhd mod. which would you rather have?

Do we like the T530 ?

>>61101852
I've been able to find a higher specced T420 for $190. Should I go for it?

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>>61082822
My laptop screen got a totally cyberpunk look, however it's barely usable. How do I fix it?

>>61102938
That's broken anon.
Replace the screen.

>>61102295
Maybe you should form your own opinions anon
Do you like the t530?

>>61102168
Either one of them
Preferably both

>>61102120
They're not though
The cpu is on par with a Ivy Bridge dual core
God like battery without adding too much thickness
Especially with the T470

>>61101820
Just buy a new one anon

>>61101402
Baking the mobo doesn't do shit you tard
Solder doesn't melt in a conventional oven temps

>>61103301
I'll but what if the SATA connections were the faulty one?

>>61103329
You really can't know that by just looking at either
Also DVD drives are cheap used
Just buy a replacement

>>61103228
I don't know. Do you ?

>>61103354
>used
What's the life span of an optic drive?

>>61103289
Do you mean an Ivy Bridge desktop version?
Can I play shit games like Overwatch on it?

>>61103381
Don't know but they don't drop dead much
>>61103368
They're okay
>>61103534
Mobile ivy bridge not desktop
And I play overwatch on my T430 with it crusty old igpu
Overwatch is a shit game though
I also can play mgstpp too

>>61103644
Not that anon but I replace optic drive frequntly.
Maybe be because I do a lot of burning.

>>61103667
Oh I don't do much burning
Do you have similar symptoms to >>61101820?

>>61103701
Nope, Mine usually start to gives error when burning, or the burned optical media can't be read.
Anon's >>61101820 issues sound like either PCB issues or faulty SATA connections.

I have an x220
Some water got spilled and it came in contact with its side where the air comes out. It was turned on, so I turned it off. There were grey spots around the screen.
I waited 1 hour for it to dry and tuned it on. Still grey spots but it was working. It crashed and turned on after 2 mins.
Now when I try to turn it on it beeps and doesn't turn on. Later I tried again and it started booting but I decided to stop it.
Is there hope

>>61103717
Well shit if that's case new mobo >>61101820

>>61103719
what do the beeps sound like
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Error_Codes_and_Beep_Codes

>>61103729
Honestly sounds like low battery voltage
1 beep every second

Not quite sure too scared to turn it on again
Should I wait a bit for any wetness to disappear or did I fuck up already

>>61103644
How is a kaby-lake processor "on par with an ivy bridge?"

>>61097190
It's dependent on the bandwidth of the connection, and the amount of data being sent to the monitor. An Expresscard 1x 2.0 is not a huge amount of bandwidth, but it's enough that you can run even the most recent games in medium at 1440p with say a 770, but you run that signal back into the laptop screen, even if it's 1366x768, you're going to see a significant drop in framerate. This is less of an issue in higher bandwidth thunderbolt setups, but laptops with thunderbolt are likely to have far higher resolution screens so it's still a problem.

Are T430 and x230 good buys?

>Ryzen Raven Ridge coming out October
>large selection of laptops December
I was going to buy a new T470 in August but now I just might wait for Raven Ridge laptops because they're going to destroy intel ones in both CPU and graphics performance while being cheaper and using less power and having a greater battery life.

But I need a laptop until the raven ridge laptops come out. I currently have a Dell Latitude e6320.

Should I spend ~$250 on upgrading the screen to a 1400x900, RAM to 8G and buying an SSD HD caddy to replace the optical drive

OR

Should I buy a Lenovo T440 off of ebay for $250?

I really like e6320's keyboard. Is the T440 keyboard comparable?

To any t430 owners how hard is it to "unlock" it ?

>>61104463
I doubt that Lenovo will just jump ship and switch to Intel

>>61104529
what do you mean by "unlock"?

>>61104054
of course

>>61104651
For third party batteries

>>61103719
i turned it on an hour ago, still working
that's good right

though it has these darker colored splash looking things around the edges of the screen

>>61104646
It's not about "switching" and "jumping ship". 9-10 years ago when AMD was a competitor in the laptop market you could choose between intel and AMD when buying a Lenovo, HP, Dell, etc. In fact, you can find Lenovo laptops with AMD CPUs: http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-100-series/Lenovo-ideapad-110-15ACL/p/88IP1000710

http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x131e-amd/

If/when Raven Ridge laptops are shown to outperform intel laptops in every metric, those laptop manufacturers that don't provide the option will see their sales drop as people will be choosing by price/performance. There is no brand loyalty among corporations.

All the major manufacturers have announced Ryzen desktops: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/208772/20170531/computex-2017-amd-ryzen-desktop-pc-from-acer-asus-dell-hp-and-lenovo-unwrapped.htm

Raven Ridge Lenovo laptops are coming. :)

>>61103817
In performance the last few generations of ulv have been slower than ivy bridge until kaby lake

>>61104801
you should probably turn it off and take out the screen to check.

>>61104698
Not at all afaik

>>61104039
What about a hypothetical thunderbolt connection and a 1920x1080 FHD screen?

>>61104928
I have a T470 with a 1080p screen coming soon
I'll test it with both the internal screen and a 1080p screen plugged into the eGPU

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The X220 can take an mSata drive?

Has anyone done this? In a dual boot setup?

>>61105039
Yes. It works like a normal hard drive.

>>61105074
What type/dimensions of mSata will it take?
Also how difficult is the installation?
Is there one in there already?

I'm currently looking for a laptop for my mum. She needs something that'll do word and the internet and not crap out on her.
As the person she's going to beg for help every time something goes wrong, I'm thinking a Thinkpad is the way to go for both price and durability. Any specific models more likely to work for a casual user, or should I just snap up whatever I can find?

>>61105199
I got my mum an X201
It's powerful enough for her to do her online shopping and some financial stuff on Excel, but cheap enough to be, well, cheap

>>61105187
msata ssds are all the same size
you just take off the keyboard then the wrist rest and it slots in, then use the screw to hold it in.
if there was a driver there you'd know.
>>61105199
Pick up the cheapest t420 you can find
it will probably have a 1366x768 screen which will be just fine for older people

>>61105212
I'll keep an eye out for one, then.
>>61105271
Any reason for the T420? Anything it has or doesn't have over the other models?

>>61105359
cheap as shit and probably the best value thinkpad currently

T430
I5 3320M
240 GO HDD
1600 X 900

160€

What do you think about that deal ? I can go see it in person.

>>61106018
Make sure to test it then, great deal.
What's the RAM?

>>61106018
fair price

>>61106037
Oups 8GB ram

is there a way to disable the invidia dgpu on a T430? will it eat up the battery if disabled compared to a model with only hd4000?

>>61106047
Too good to be true.

>>61106147
nvidia optimus automatically turns off the nvidia graphics and defaults to the intel graphics

>>61106180
so it is basically as if it was not there at all? i am on linux, so the dgpu is useless. battry life will not degrade i hope.

>>61106171
I will check it out this week.

I might be able to get my hands on a T420 with 6 gigs of ram, a 320 gig SSD and a dual core i7 for $190 DownUnder FunBucks.
Thoughts?

>>61106336
best deal youre gonna find, dont pass it up m8. Assuming everything actually works and theres no giant crack along the shell or something.

>>61106336
>>61106362
Meant an HDD, rather than SSD. Rest is right.I was thinking it sounded good, just wanted a second opinion. Thanks, anon. Already followed up with the seller to ask about physical damage, battery issues and if the BIOS is locked. Will hopefully be seeing it in person in a day or two.

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HELLU
do you guys think that there might be a serial/uart port on the motherboard of a x220? Or any possibility to read out data?
Was thinking about planting a tiny oled display into my case with an attiny85 or something and display some random information like temperatures or load or whatever comes to my mind

Need consulting
T420
>1600x900 screen
>i5-2520m
>4gb ram
>no hdd
>150€
y/n

>>61106539
You could get better for same price.
>no HDD/SSD
You need to be wary of those.

>>61106427

Can you do I2C off an attiny?

>>61106571
What does the drive-less nature suggest, other than that someone's nabbed the drive?

>>61106633
Faulty mobo / bad SATA connections.
Or paranoid seller.

>>61106633
nothing, don't know what that guy is talking about desu

maybe it suggests it used to be a company laptop and it might have computrace/anti-theft enabled on it or it might be in bad condition?

>>61106607
yes

>>61106656
I've never had any problems buying driveless machines
Most of the time they keep and destroy the hard drive because they're afraid of you recovering whatever data is on there.

>>61106633
>>61106656
There is no guarentee that I will get it for that price because there is a competition with another buyer. I do have X220 already, but parts on T420 seem to be easier to get so that's why I'm considering to get T420. I thought it was good deal because you can often see these laptops go for 200€ or more.
I have no hurry to get T420 yet, until I have upgraded my T60 and T61 to their max, let alone X220.

>>61106018
Deus ex
I can also get my hands on a sweet sweet T530
i7-3520M
RAM 4 Go
320go HDD
1080p
Nvidia NVS 5400M

For the price of 180€


Like the T430 mentioned earlier I have to check it in person but both look in ok condition.
Damn it.

Just so you know, I'm going back to college and this will be my main computer. Nothing computer science related tho.

is there a list of FRU numbers of T430 motherboards and their differences? I need to find a motherboard without the nvidia dgpu.

>>61082822
Is an x61 with intel core duo and 1gig memory worth it? $50 for the wholw thing and I have a Samsung SSD. What is your take on this, tech-/g/ods?

>>61107136
>1GB RAM
Which distro are you gonna put on it?

>>61107166
Void Linux or Devuan

hey /tpg/
decided to ascend to thinkpad.

I need a small, fast thinkpad.
Was thinking about x series, the 11-12 inch display ones. I will upgrade hard drive to ssd and it needs to already have 8 gb of ram

Thanks/g/

>>61104987
Roger that, thanks. I'll keep a lookout here.

>>61107412
x230, replace the keyboard and palmrest

>>61107430
how do I do that kek

And what ssd should I get? where should I buy the x230

What's wrong with the palm rest?

And what should the overall price be

>>61107412
>I need a small, fast thinkpad.
>small
>fast
Pick one

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>>61107430
OP here. Amazon a good place to get it?

>>61107455
the keyboard replacement requires you to replace the palmrest as well, since the old keyboard has different nubs on the front. you will then flash a custom ec firmware and you have the better keyboard.

i am about to buy an ssd and i think i might settle at samsung evo.

buy it preferable from somewhere where you can check the laptop for yourself to see if it works and has any physical damage or locked bios.

>>61107495
That seems a little expensive, look for bulk sellers on ebay

>>61107455
don't bother replacing the keyboard/palm rest it's a meme

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>>61107502
This looks better....

>>61107527
if you prefer the island keyboard, by all means, keep it. it is a solid keyboard, but the layout sucks a big one.

>>61107549
>no usb3
>inferior hd3000

>>61107571
Oh. X230 is way to go then?

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Woah. Should I get it? And should I upgrade ram and get a ssd.

>>61107613
well, if you care about usb or graphics ...

>>61107613
i would go for that personally, yes

>>61107645
I don't know about the prices where you live, but I bought my T420 with an i5 and 4GB RAM for ~120€. So I would say yes.
An SSD will good, the ram would be enough I would guess.

>>61107645
i'd go for it.
I paid $200 for a t430, same i7, 4gb ram and 320gb a few months ago. you should look and see if you can easily install libreboot, if that's important to you.
anyone else agree?

>>61107613
If you want a shittier keyboard.

>>61107743
nothing wrong with the keyboard

>>61107751
Worse than the older ones.

>>61106811
That's a good deal for bongland, I'd say go for this one unless you need more portability.

>>61107769
it is more sturdy and has less flex than the *20 and *10 series, also easier to clean

>>61107743
>>61107769
He can always swap it

>>61107823
i replaced my t430 keyboard with the classic and there is no difference in flexing (so it does not flex at all). the flex is caused by the body, not the keyboard.

>>61107645
Looks good. It already has 8gb ram so I'd leave that be. An SSD is always a great upgrade though so yeah. If you want a 10x better keyboard look for an x220 keyboard to swap with the x230 shit keyboard

>>61107099
anybody?

>>61107850
>>61107861
so then what's wrong with the keyboard?

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>>61107861
Update! I will not be getting that one, apparently there is lots of cosmetic damage. I will be getting this and a 500 gb SSD. Which SSD type should I get? How do I know if this is bios locked too or if I can install Linux on it. And why is the x220 keyboard so much better?

>>61084572
It can do any of those things but probably not as well as you'd expect it to

>>61107885
the layout is stupid and the keys are island-style with less key travel. see some pictures.

>>61107938
the keys have the same if not more travel

the layout is fine unless you're conditioned to the old one

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Lenovo T400 Libreboot
2017 is this laptop still worth buying today? I'm mostly interested in web browsing, and videos. What accessories, and/peripherals do I need to buy with it (wifi/dock/beagle one/etc)?

>>61107916
samsung 850 evo or crucial mx300

Whats the best way to increase the x220's battery life?

>The "19+" is so fuking expensive.
>And the 9 cell batteries only gives me like 3,X hours (real, not what the "battery life icon" tells you) of reading pdfs :/

19 + 9cell configuration is like: fuck up, better i go buy another laptop.

>>61108671
well there's the obvious stuff, get an ssd, turn down screen brightness, turn off wifi

could just get a second 9-cell battery

>>61108671
A powerbank that can output 20v (i.e charge laptops).
You can use this same powerbank to charger your phone or your future laptop.

This is my solution because I also own X220

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Finally did the touchpad upgrade on my T440s after 3 years of owning it. Everything works except the touchpad isn't seated correctly and the buttons scrape against the case. I think I might have warped the case while trying to pry off the stupid back cover. REEEEEEEEEE

>>61108807
I'm not sure about T440s specifically but usually the palm rest has a few plastic bits that snap into place, if you don't get them snapped in properly then it will appear warped and might fuck with the touchpad

I've encountered this issue on X230, X220, T420 but yeah now I know to make sure the palm rest is fully snapped in

>>61108844
The palm rest is non removable after xx30 anon. What you said has nothing to do with xx40

Do I need to remove the palmrest to install the mSATA SSD? T530, btw.

>>61109214
no, just keyboard

>>61108844
Thanks, it does feel like the palm rest is a little loose. I guess it's also possible that I just didn't get the touchpad seated correctly while screwing it in.

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>>61082822
A friend recently got an X60 mobo off of eBay but it has a bios lock.any way to get around this? The cmos battery was pulled and it won't let a drive even boot without the password.

buying an x230 was the best decision of my life

>>61109393
hes fucked

>>61109393
Pretty sure you'd have to remove the chip that has the password lock saved and replace. No idea what the chip is, but it was a bad purchase because of that.

>>61109635
We're planning to put libreboot on it, any way to force an os to load so we can flash the bios?

>>61109816
Not that I currently know of myself.
But that doesn't mean that someone on this """helpful""" board can't help!
>r..right guys?

>>61108075
A t400? for under 70$ sure, youre entering the territory of "old shit near useless now" like a T60/61 or a T4x series.
Theyre plenty for shitposting and other general computer fuckery, but dont expect much. Especially not youtube or other streaming anymore, the Core2Duo's arent that great with modern streaming services because theyre bloated pieces of shit

It should come with Wifi, dont bother getting a dock for something this old unless its just for the sake of having a dock, im not 100% sure on the beagle, ive never flashed a new bios on a modern T series
As far as other accessories go, get spare shit for things that may or may not break, spare stick of ram in any size for testing, spare wlan module, a handful of spare keys and a trackpoint or two in a baggie

>>61108807
Jesus Christ clean that disgusting keyboard

>>61109258
Isn't it the same as the T430?

>>61110496
no, T420/T430 the mPCIE slot is on the bottom next to 1 of the ram slots

>>61108807
Is it that hard to just get a damp rag and wipe your keyboard

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What's the best variant of the T470?

>>61109393
>bios lock
Welcome to the club pal.

>>61110571
If T is a variable then
>T470-T400=T70
Best variant of T470 is when you remove T400 and get T70.

Hey guys. I just ordered a x220 with a 250gb SSD and 8 gigs of ram. Did I do well? And would you say it's a small laptop bc compact = comfy

>>61110655
>>61110726
Christ I meant between the T470, T470s, and the T470p...

>>61110797
Only faggots buy -i,s and p variants.
Vanilla variant is pure.

>>61110726
Fuck you're such a huge faggot
Back to >>>/sci/ and your backwards ass logic
>>61110571
T470
>huge battery with power bridge
>thin and light enough

>>61110571
the OG T470
The s only has one DIMM of replaceable RAM
The p doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 meaning you're stuck with a 940MX until the laptop dies

>>61110894
>T470

> settling for lower quality materials rather than carbon fibre and magnesium alloy

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>>61109393
>bios lock
>remove battery
>please set the time in bios
>bios is still locked

Just get an X61 motherboard that isn't locked.
How fucking dumb can you be?

>>61107645
Its going to cost so much when its done.

Can someone post a pic of their x220

>>61112016
The ebay seller didn't say anything about a bios lock...