/tpg/ - ThinkPad General thread

First for what search term do you use for trackpad stickers? I tried "T530 trackpad sticker" and no results.

>>61062501
SECOND FOR GENTOO

>>61062501
Third for make a discord for /tpg/

>>61062592
why would you want to replace it? the textured surface is cancer, just remove the sticker and leave it like that

>>61062724
'tism, I guess...
Just curious, actually.

Also, I've heard that Quadro graphics are not that well suited for gaming, but how much of an improvement is the K1000M or whatever the lowest dGPU for the W530 was, in comparison to the 54nm NVS 5400M?

>>61062592

s/track/touch/ maybe?
If you want to rice, there's http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/
If you want replacement parts, your terms work well enough.

>>61062501
Is the thinkpad x60 still good in the current year+2.

>>61062811
Well, I have considered ricing my T530 with some stickers and shit, but I'm not sure what I could add.
Anime isn't an option as I don't really watch it.

>>61062847
Yes, I have an X60s with libreboot. Comfy af. Also I have a X200 with libreboot which is faster and has hdmi.

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which are the normal temp readings for a x230t?

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why

>>61062847
No, x200 is the bare minimum in 2017

where do you buy keycaps for your keyboard?

>>61063802
keycaps?

>>61063732
False, an X60 is perfectly fine today

>>61063967
have fun loading modern webpages

>>61063802
keyboards are cheap just get a whole new one

>>61063967
if all you do is shitpost on /g/ and watch sd porn, maybe.

>>61064035
I'm broke>>61064035

>>61064110
Then stop being a lazy nigger and go get a job.

>>61064034
>>61064038
My X60s loads pages very quickly.

>>61064034
>>61064038
I have an x60T that works fine. Was using it as my daily driver until I just recently upgraded to an x220 but only because I needed to use the 16GB of 1866 ram.

>>61064131
I live in a shitworld country :/

>>61064144
what pages? mobile version of reddit?

>>61064221
which country?

>>61064278
I'd rather keep it to myself, /g/ will make fun of me for being poor :(

>>61064269
Pretty much every page I visit. Only page that is slow is protonmail due to the encryption, but even then it's not bad.

>>61064320
post your fucking country nigger
we are all from shitholes, including us

>>61064345
no

>>61062984
>doesn't watch anime

Get a load of this fagget

>>61064645
What is so glorious about anime, anyways? It's just overglorified Japanese cartoons with recycled plots and fanservice all over the place.

>>61062663
No

>>61062663
>>61064935

Eh, just make one, could be entertaining

https://discord.gg/EajyHPB

i’ve heard rumors the T500 can hold an iMac E8435 processor. anything else i can do dangerous or otherwise unwise to max the absolute shit out of this thing? planning on Librebooting.

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I Pulled the trigger and bought a new thinkpad from lenovo. I bought it from their outlet. It was new, on sale, and I used a coupon to get 35% of my order. Here is what I bought.

I'm probably going to buy some ram and the ips screen to swap in. How did I do? I spent 500 + ~30tax

>>61065164
I didn't install gentoo on my T30 to join some low effort circlejerk discord shit.
IRC or nothing. Or GNUnet proxy'd IRC

I want to buy a Thinkpad a put 8gb ram + 128gb SSD in, install Gentoo on it.
What are the best models for that? It has to be cheap but durable and good build.

>>61065496
Yeah but you have to keep in mind that the majority of people here are just regular plebs.

>>61065348
You'll need a beagle bone

>>61065489
bad

I can get x230 with 8gb RAM and 240gb SSD for 250€, worth?

>>61065664
a CH341A is enough for programing it

>>61064690
this, at least older animu was cool and interesting.

Everything nowadays is pure shite.

>>61065164
discord is always shit. pls delete yourself

>>61065489
Why do they even still ship laptops with such shittyscreens?

>>61066383
because they are fucking jews, even shitty consumer laptops have ips screens nowadays. there's abosuletly no excuse.

REEEEEEEEEE

>>61064690
>>61066345
Ya. All the good anime is old. The Berserk tv series, the Ghost in the Shell movie, Princess Mononoke... Too many studios relying too heavily on CG these days. Don't even get me started on the Berserk 2016/17 tv series. Complete trash even by the lowest standards.

is it normal that the power connection thingy on my shitpad doesn't feel secure, like at all?

I have a fear it's going to unplug at any time.

>>61066446
its designed to be replaceable, ie its a simple power jack and a cable connected to the mobo, its not soldered to it.

so no, dont worry about it

>>61066443
Also, they keep just making retarded cute Moe shit for brain-dead weebs.

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>>61065910

yes?

wtf are you waiting for?

>>61066518
is it easily replaceable?

I don't like the feeling.

Whenever I plug the ac adapted I feel like it's going to unplug at any time.

>>61066710
dude, that piece is going to fail on ALL laptops anyway, be glad its easy to replace on a thinkpad.

>>61066710
turn the laptop upright, does it fall out or not?

>>61066743
I've never owned a laptop before.

>>61066747
it actually didn't.

>>61066769
then it's fine, it's not supposed to be a tight fit

>>61066769
>I've never owned a laptop before.
well then you just missed a bullet, having a thinkpad as first time laptop is a hell of a first impression. read you model's Hardware Maintenance Manual and you will be assured that in the event the piece fails it is easily replaceable.

>>61066779
kk I was just paranoid then, I expected it to feel tighter.

>>61066804
just installed an msata ssd but I'm not liking it.
I know it works at SATA II speeds so sequential writes and reads are capped at 300mbps

but why is random 4k being gimped?

I got up to 29mbps random 4k read speeds. but after installing it on the msata slot, it maxes out at 18mbps?

why?

>>61066932
what ssd?

>>61067007
some samsung idk

Anyone have opinions about levono's retro Thinkpad re-make?

https://www.cnet.com/news/lenovo-confirms-that-a-retro-25th-anniversary-special-edition-thinkpad-is-on-the-way/

>>61067099
pure marketing.

mark my words, it's going to be pure shite. but with a 4:3 or 3:2 aspect ratio and some old ibm thinkpad colours.

>>61067099
Gonna get it if it's worth the upgrade from my x220 for the price.

>>61067099
It's goning to be low quality cheap chinkshit, but I'm still going to buy one because it's kawaii.

>>61067185
That's what I think. They're not going to be the reliable, libre/free, comfortable laptops that the T40 and friends were. It seems they're more concerned over the logo style and the mouse nipple than the actual build quality. And there's no way it'll run Linux better than the T line.

>>61067099
>It's been 25 years since Lenovo introduced us to its first ThinkPad: the 700C business laptop.
What kind of brain dead writers do they have working at cnet?

Can you tell me something about the t430s? Will it take a 1080p screen? How's heating/battery life?
I currently have a x220 but dunno if I should upgrade to the x230 with the ips panel or something bigger

>>61067242
Give them a break. They're journalists because they couldn't get into technology themselves. It's a miracle they got into college anyway. It must be difficult living with a condition where you don't know how to dress yourself and need in-home support every morning.

How does x200 or T60/T61 performance compare to something like a modern rasp pi 3 or odroid c2?

Basically late 00's laptop duos vs. recent ARM chips

>>61067262
>Can you tell me something about the t430s?
it's a thinkpad

>will it take a 1080p screen?
with a mod

>How's heating/battery life?
shit, shit

>I currently have a x220 but dunno if I should upgrade to the x230 with the ips panel or something bigger

depends on what you want it to do

>>61067303
arm is shit

One version of the T430S (with i7, but no NVIDIA) has Thunderbolt 1. Can I run an eGPU off that?

>>61067334
you could,

Does anyone know some good MASSIVE batteries I could use for my T430? Weight is not an issue, but I'm often away from a power outline for 8 hours and it'd be nice to not have to switch batteries. Any chink high capacity batteries?

>>61067324
so I have a T61 w/ 3 GB memory, still has xp, battery is dead since its been unused since 2009...

The ddr2 memory is expensive for what it is...

is it worth upgrading it? or should I get a x200 or W520 instead?

>>61067392
x220

>>61067392
T7500 CPU on the T61, which I believe I can upgrade to a 64 bit T9500.

>>61067399
x220 over the W520 also then? How come? Other than it being smaller.

>>61067419
>no mention of hp so far
>other thread doesn't even include links to previous threads.

mmmm, who's the autist now?

>>61067392
Brah, if you willing to do it, you can get quadcore cpu on T61 and 8gb ram and 1440x900 screen if you have 14.1" wide screen and 1920x1080 panel if you have the 15.4" model.

>>61067460
>We haven't had a ThinkPad thread in almost a week.

this is your brain on autism

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I ordered the new X1 Carbon but after Rossman's new video I'm regretting not going P50

Which would you lads prefer? Typing from T520 now

>>61067521
t470

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>>61067518
say what you want but the only sperg here is you.

>>61067504
yeah I saw but two of the 4 core run slow or something and its a big ass process...

>>61067504
Frankenpad is shit in the current year.

>>61067591
just get something newer desu

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>>61067591
It is a big process if you think so. There is people who have made the instructions to do as well people have successful done so. I assume that you are a "human" so you can do the same as the other "human(s)".
>>61067592
I plan to retire my T61 in the year 2025 or further.

>>61067669
I honestly think is too much of a hassle to bother with a frankenpad in the current year when you could just get something newer.

>>61067055
>some samsung
Just checked and it's a samsung sm841, I bought it from some dude selling a bunch of 240gb ssds for cheap.

Why is random 4k getting gimped?

>>61067690
I thought of it too but I like this idea more.
x220
>upgrading ram to 16gb or even 8gb is expensive
>CPU are also expensive if this machine was T420 were you could swap the CPU
>batteries are somewhat expensive
>panel upgrade is unheard of
I don't like, when compared to
T61
>CPUs are very cheap
>keyboards are cheap
>batteries are cheap
>if you upgrade the panel now, there is a good change you can use it on T420 when you plan to upgrade
>ultrabay stuff also works on T420 (not ultrabay batteries)
>old enough so it won't have Intel ME vunerabilites
The only problem remaining is that DDR2 4gb sticks are very expensive. With the price of single DDR2 4gb stick, you could get 8gb of DDR3. That is why I think T400 is best computer due to being librebootable and DDR3 support.

Nevertheless, it's your money and machine so it's your decision. My plan is to stick with my T61 stubbornly for a long time.

>>61067823
The x220 has libreboot, ddr3 is super cheap, and you can do the nitrocaster mod for a FHD ips panel, IIRC.

Also parts are abundant...

>>61065489
>Not counting in tax by default.

>>61067855
doesnt x200 have it but not x220?

>>61067823
might just chug with the 3GB of ram on the T61 and get a T400 later then

>>61067916
>having to count tax

wew lad, what kind of shithole do you live in?

Does anyone have the list of all the mods for the t430?

I remember some anon posting it some time ago.

>>61067921
They're working on a version for X220.

>>61067855
The x200 supports Libreboot, not the x220. There was talk about it getting support by the end of the year but that looks like it was a premature notion.

>>61067973
>>61067921
My bad, you are right.

At the moment it doesn't have libreboot, but it does have coreboot support.

And like >>61067956 said.

They are currently working on libreboot for ivy and sandy bridge cpus.

>>61067973
>>61067956
if the X220 gets support bypassing the AMT on i5/i7 then wont many other thinkpads get support soon after?

>>61068015
only ivy and sandy I think

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>>61067855
>The x220 has libreboot,
I'm a simple man. You say stuff I don't like, I prove you wrong. X220 does not have libreboot, only coreboot. If X220 is not mentioned on libreboot.org then it doesn't support libreboot.
>and you can do the nitrocaster mod for a FHD ips panel,
Mod so rare that it has pepe on it's chip. I do not see this as a viable solution more than long on-going hunt for that part.
>Also parts are abundant
True, but I can't find any parts for my 22-year-old thinkpad and resources start to get low on 15-year-old thinkpad.
>tfw 22-year-old thinkpad uses dumb batteries meaning that I could build one for it because it does not require any chip (or so I do assume)
>>61067921
>might just chug with the 3GB of ram on the T61 and get a T400 later then
Install 4gb on it if it's chipset supports it.
I also like my T61 because it has smartcard reader for additional security without the need to use a fingerprint sensor.
>>61067956
>>61067973
>>61068011
>>61068015
I can't wait for this to happen because then you don't have to use X60 or X200 anymore. It's a good machine and after I have used c2d for past 4months, its CPU will be a usable for additional 10 years (2021 or 2027).

>>61068059
>I can't wait for this to happen
it'll happen.

SOON

>>61068059
>I'm a simple man. You say stuff I don't like, I prove you wrong. X220 does not have libreboot, only coreboot. If X220 is not mentioned on libreboot.org then it doesn't support libreboot.
yeah I was wrong. Apologies anon

>Mod so rare that it has pepe on it's chip. I do not see this as a viable solution more than long on-going hunt for that part.

not really, it might take a while until nitrocaster builds a new batch tho.

>>61067949
anyone pls lads

>>61067355

9cell + slice + ultrabay

There 20 hours have fun

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Reposting from last thread,

I think I broke one of my arrow key caps while trying to remove the keyboard?

Looks like one of the bits that clicks in and secures it to the keyboard is missing.

I'm not getting a new keyboard just for that, would glue damage any part?

pls respond, it's my first cumpad.

>>61068247
>slice

feels weird, never liked it.

where does /tpg/ get replacement buttons

>>61068427
replacement buttons?

>>61068449
I messed with my t530 buttons and broke them both like a retard and I cant find replacements. Well at least not ones that will show up within 3 months

Anyway to use corporate perks in europe?

>>61068470
im still being stupid specifically the lower trackpad buttons

>>61068470
what buttons?

post pics

>>61068495
>>61068492
>>61068470

>>61068521
just get a new trackpad

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>>61068544
id rather not buy an entire new trackpad then find some fucking buttons
>>61068495

>>61068570
they are really cheap m8.

You could try asking someone selling thinkpad parts to sell you the buttons only.

>>61068591
I mean no one is selling one only palmrest and they are all 60 dollars

>>61068648
where are you from?

>>61068671
The US

Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out what models to look out for, but I was hoping I could get some suggestions.

Budget: ~$600, assuming this can get what I'm looking for
Location: nyc
Size: Medium to small, I'm looking for something more portable
Performance: I am looking for a laptop to use for recording music via audio interface. So, I would only really care about decent IO (a decent amount of USB ports), good display (at least 1080p would be preferable), good battery life, and decent processing power.

I understand that thinkpads are modular, so I was wondering if it would be a good idea (if it came to that) to purchase a lower quality one, so that I can upgrade it myself.

>>61068770
t440p with FHD ips panel, maxed ram and non socketted haswell cpu.

>>61068716
idk, man, I usually find people selling used parts, try that.

Otherwise just get a new one dude.

>>61068816
x230 can be corebootable I think.

or the t520 has a really good screen but it's rarer.

>>61068811
Thanks for reply, this sounds pretty good, I can't seem to find any models with the fhd ips display you're referencing, would this be an upgrade?

>>61068991
there are stock options with the FHD display.

But you can always buy the display and do it yourself.

The only problem I think, it's that the max amount of ram is 12gb.

The dell e6440 can also use a FHD ips display and non soldered haswell quadcores, but keyboard and trackpoint is not as good as a thinkpad. but still pretty good imo.

btw you might want to do a trackpad mod for the t440p.

clickpad is shit

>>61069035
Cool, actually was able to find a FHD transplant on youtube, looks simple enough. I'm gonna look through some listings.

I think 12 GB should be fine, I have 16 on the desktop I do everything on currently, and I haven't noticed it ever go above 8 to be honest.

What's the benefit of the non socketted cpu? does that imply upgradability?

>>61062501
I put some 1600MHz laptop RAM in my x201, thinking it would get gimped down to 1066, but lshw is telling me it's 1600. What's up with that?

>>61069081
btw the 12gb of ram I'm not sure if I'm right.

I say this because the t440 has a soldered 4gb stick of ram. I don't remember if the t440p has it as well.

So why is acpi a piece of shit and dosen't want to make the volume buttons and brightness buttons work by default without doing any binding shit

So it's pretty much guaranteed that any battery from china won't work with my t430 right?

>>61069515
it can

>try a t430 keyboard
>It doesn't feel mushy and doesn't flex like the t420 one
You guys said chiclet was shit.

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>>61062501
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), Dell Latitude/Precision (E6440) and T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

Add the E6430 to this list.
>More powerful CPU options
>Nearly half the price of the E6440 on eBay
>Same 14" 900p screen option available
>CPU has socket so upgrades are possible

pic related is my most recent purchase

>>61062501
after flashing the modded 1.43 bios onto my x220t, does that mean any wifi card that can plug in will work?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/182119695024

So this will look nice inside the bay of a t430 right? The seller lists every model except the t430

I have a third gen thinkpad x1 carbon

how much can I sell this piece of shit for?

It has the 1440p non touch screen, i7, 8 gig ram

>>61069938
the fuck is the seller thinking there is a second HDD space for the x series, buy one from other seller

>>61069949
Why is it a POS?

Thinkpad x1 carbon gen 2. Is it good?

>>61070025
>Why is it a POS?
maybe it was just my unit but I had a lot of problems with it that just make me sick of this thing

Screen had a few defective pixels they wouldn't replace, build quality was kinda shoddy (theres cheap shit plastic around the screen and mine seems to have some wires making bulges underneath it near the bottom), performance wasn't as good as I was expecting, etc

What do you guys have your thinkvantage button do?

>>61070157
appreciate it

>>61070157
>What do you guys have your thinkvantage button do?
click it during boot

>>61069967
I can't seem to find any other caddy that has a nice cover plate

>>61070242
You know the cover plate on your optical drive is removable, right?

>>61070279
I did not, do i need a caddy with the ejector tab bit or will it work fine without one?

>>61070218
I know it can do that silly but what do you make it do from within your os, what do you use it for anon?

>>61070332
Something like this with the connector holes. Just make sure you get the correct thickness.
>12.7mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Universal-12-7mm-SATA-2nd-SSD-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-for-CD-DVD-ROM-Optical-Bay-/132166124871?hash=item1ec5b70547:g:XVkAAOSwsXFZKSN5
>9.5mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-5mm-Universal-Optical-bay-2nd-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-SATA-f-Apple-Macbook-Pro-US-/311584453241?epid=1671597776&hash=item488be17279:g:Ea8AAOSwBnVW~Uk9

>>61070364
Thanks anon

>>61069876
>>Nearly half the price of the E6440 on eBay
literally not true

>>61065164
>>61062663
https://discord.gg/87PvZ7V

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Considering doing second heatpipe mod for 2570p so I can accommodate a 3740QM /comfy as hell/

this thing is no ThinkPad but I love it to death cause of the design and availability of spare parts here in Australia

I picked up 5 batteries unused from my school for $0, and they were from a 2560p deployment that they upgraded to 9cells at the last min

>>61070931
'no'

>>61070931
>https://discord.gg/87PvZ7V
Thanks mate. What's your nickname there?

>>61071278
Saucey

>>61071260
Too bad.

>>61071297
discord is pure shite

>>61070849
In the high-end, the only E6440 configuration with comparable performance is with the i7-4700MQ, and those typically sell for more than $400 on eBay. The E6440 has better options for discrete graphics, though.

Best stock processors: i7-4700MQ (E6440) vs i7-3720QM (E6430)
>http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4700MQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3720QM/2727vsm1619
>https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=895&cmp[]=1923

>>61071473
It's better than skype though

>>61071521
Not true,discord is for gayman /v/ tards.

wtf? why do all the thinkpads have shit cpu and not quad core?

>>61071039
what batteries? 9cell? 6cell?
My 9cell 100Wh is glorious. Lasts for 10 hours with i7-3740qm.

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Question about thinkpad keyboard.
What kind of mechanism does the keyboard use to hold the buttons?
The letters on the keys have started to wear off, and I have a dead HP DV6 laptop laying around with "scratch resistance" keys.
Can the keys be swapped?

>>61072360
Most likely not

>>61072199
Any thinkpad worth your while has a socket cpu anon.

>>61071039
Can you explain? I might pick up a 2570p myself

>>61070157
Launche shit with it on linux
Couldn't find what do with though

>>61072432
Different clipping mechanism?
What do I do about fading letters on the keyboard then?

>>61070060
Horrible.
>shit cpu
>shit trackpad
>shit trackpoint
>shit function keys
>shit keyboard layout
It's basically shit
Either buy a x230 or a X1 carbon 3rd gen
The first two generations are not worth giving a two shits about

>>61072503
Get a new keyboard
It's not just the clipping mech
I'm pretty sure the keys are a different size too and probably clipps differently

>>61072487
>Launche shit with it on linux
How? I was thinking of using it to launch a terminal.

Angry New York man bringing us yet another thinkpad review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3xI8dUdm0

>>61072564
Any DE that let's you set shortcuts
Unity KDE xfce for example
Honestly the terminal isn't worth it. You naturally go for ctrl+alt+t much faster than to reach to them thinkvantage key
I'm try htop as of now. Seems a bit more useful

>>61072593
Thought he did something new

Thinkpad x1 carbon 350€, good deal?

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Hey guys, I got a caddy + SSD for my T430, all works perfectly, except the cover doesn't fit because it's a different shape, as you can see in pic related. There was a caddy with the right cover for $35, but I got another caddy for $10 that serves the same function. Anybody know where I can buy just the cover? thx

earlier today I moved a shitton of files on my x220 and installed quite a bit.
It got really hot and making strange noises during that time.
Would it be good to put it apart and clean the whole thing?

Been using that x220 for almost 2 years now and bought it "refurbished", so I guess they somehow cleaned it before I bought it

>>61072702
You can swap the cover I think?

>>61072718
you mean take the old one from the cd-drive I had in there? No, it's fucking glued on.

>>61072668
Which gen

>>61072736
>it's fucking glued on.
Unless someone did this intentionally (like you) it's not possible to be glued.
It has a small rubber, which is NOT glue.

>>61072757
First gen

>>61072736
Not its not
It's a bit hard to remove
Plug the old DVD drive and eject the tray
Unplug the drive
Then remove the bottom cover plate
You should see some clips holding the front plate on
Just unclip those and it should come out
Be careful they're a bit stiff

>>61072774
Nope
Not only is that too much
3rd gen u cpus are still too inefficient and too underpowered
Just get x230 instead

>>61072767
No the clips are probably too stiff
He can remove the bottom plate from the tray and push them from the inside

>>61072794
I ordered an x230 with 8gb RAM and 240gb SSD Intel 520. Hope it's worth the 250€ spent

>>61072736
>glued on
Highly doubt it.
See this
https://hddcaddy.eu/how-to-safely-remove-plastic-bezel-frontplate-from-optical-drive

>>61072812
That's a pretty nice config
The screen at worst might seem like a let down but you'll be pretty pleased with the performance.
Enjoy your new thinkpad

>>61072828
My first Thinkpad

>>61072831
Well if you're coming from a shitty laptop like I did you'll be pretty pleased with it

>>61072845
Already got tons of hardware and a not bad Asus Ultrabook. Just needed to feel the Thinkpad meme and a machine I could you with Gentoo in

>>61072813
>>61072785
>>61072767
Right, I see now, thx guys, doing this now

>>61068130
>not really, it might take a while until nitrocaster builds a new batch tho.
That seems to be the case. Oh well, I have no hurry upgrading X220 because I have other machines to upgrade.
>>61068247
I would love to have sliced battery on my X220 but they are a bit rare and expensive in my book. Might need to lurk ebay like a motherfucker.
>>61069876
I have been thinking to get a Dell as an alternative to Thinkpad. The reason being that they are just as good as T420 in terms of available compenents and their keyboard should be alright (non-island keys and three buttons for the trackpoint) while HP elitebooks looks tempting, the keyboard kills it for me. Also Dell latitudes does not have thinklight so backlight keyboard is a must.
Dell latitudes are quite underrated, don't you think? I mean they have a lot in common with Thinkpads or Elitebooks because they were each others rival brands.

quick fuckers
this laptop
http://www.ebay.com

.au/itm/Lenovo-14-inch-T440p-i7-4800MQ-3-70GHz-8GB-Geforce730M-backlit-keyboard-win10pro-/172747071630
use the two codes before midnight 25/6 to get like 90 bucks off. i'd buy it myself but i want a t440s, not a t440p.

Gonna slap some Arctic Silver™ 5 on my ThinkPad™ T510, currently hitting 83C in Prime95 small FFT's which is no big deal but it's annoyingly noisy at idle.

>>61073403
>not going for the coollaboratory liquid pro
pleb

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What's the best laptop I can get for £150/$200 [spoiler]or less?[/spoiler]

Needed for:
Browsing
Fapping.
Very light Photoshop tasks
Playing Overwatch on low settings when bored.

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How often do you clean your thinkpad?
Can dust easily get into the internals of the thinkpad?

>>61073696
t420
wont play overmeme, but that's a shit game anyways.
>>61074112
I cleaned it when I got it.
outside of that pretty much never unless I accidentally touch it with greasy hands.

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Pls help fast.

Is this third gold connector thing meant to just be loose and unplugged? I guess it's for some feature/component my model wasn't spec'd with?

>>61074329
What about dust collection on the surface?
Is damp cloth over it more than enough or do I need to clean the vents as well?

>>61074345
it's for a 3rd wifi antenna if you have 3 wireless dongers
but since yours only has 2 it obviously has that little hole
>>61074354
fucking clean your house more than once every 3 years if dust on the laptop is a problem.

Anyone has X1 Carbon with a touch screen? Is it a pain in the ass to replace the screen?

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>>61074363
>clean your house
I don't have one, I live in the desert for job related reasons.
There is nothing but dust here.
I tried clogging hole I manage to find but dust still get inside.

Can the t430 handle the quad core i7s? I'm looking at the 3630 and wondering if heat will be an issue

>>61074363
Thanks senpai.

>>61074413
it still gets air in from one side of the heatsinks (whichever side the fan pulls air in)
>>61074418
they came with them as options from the factory I think, but mine throttles badly with just a dualcore so I don't want to imagine what a quadcore would do

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How much should I pay for SSD?

I plan to get X220/X230, and I worry the constant moving might screw the HDD.
And since I'd be using GNU/Linux I doubt I'd need more than 32GB.

Should I go for cheap SSD?

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>>61074436
It's T420, So I assume the air intake is from below while the back and side for venting?
Should I try putting something like an air filter below it?

>>61074508
back and side are intake and exhaust
it intakes from one side and exhuasts out the other since thats how those fans work.
The vents at the bottom add extra air, but it's not really much.
Honestly your best bet would be to set a custom fan speed curve that keeps your fan speed off/as low as possible.
At low speeds its a lot harder to pick up dust.
Seriously though just clean wherever you live as much as possible.
or get carpet, then whenever you do clean just air for the carpets.

>>61074596
The intake is from the back?
>get carpet
Why?
Do you mean use vacuum to clean the dust from the T420?

>>61074648
no, clean the carpets you tard
carpets are really good a keeping in dust.

>>61074657
Sorry I interpreted it as putting a carpet under the T420.

>>61073696
x230

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>>61073403
Didn't think it would do anything but temps are down in Prime to a max of 72C, replacing thermal paste isn't a meme then.

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How high is to high temp?
And how long you can keep a CPU running at high temp?
On T420 watching BD 1080p videos make CPU temps reach 70C.

>>61074974
they're built to go up to 100C

>>61074974
I wouldn't worry about Sandy Bridge until it got over 100C personally. T420 is throwaway tier so it really doesn't matter.

>>61074984
I know that, but is it safe to keep the CPU/Fan running at those high temps for long period of time?
>>61074989
>throwaway tier
Elaborate?

>>61074479
>How much should I pay for SSD?
how much space u want
>I plan to get X220/X230, and I worry the constant moving might screw the HDD.
it will
>And since I'd be using GNU/Linux I doubt I'd need more than 32GB.
as long as you don't plan on installing any software or saving any kind of media, sure
>Should I go for cheap SSD?
no, you can always take it out and put it in a new machine in the future, there's no reason to cheap out

>>61075013
they wouldn't let you do it if it wasn't safe

technically increased speeds and heat will obviously wear out the fan bearings faster and more heat cycles will also degrade the cpu thermal paste faster

but these things were built to be used not babied, the cpu will cut off if it gets into truly 'dangerous' territory

Proably fifth time I've asked now, I'll keep trying.
For the xx20 keyboards, which out of Chicony and NMB have the best keys and the more silent tactile trackpoint buttons? I fucking hate this keyboard lottery shit with ThinkPads.

>>61075040
>how much space u want
I'm not sure.
I'm using manjaro and my root directory is partitioned to be 30 GB and it uses less than 10GB.
The dot folders are taking less than 10 GB and I have few Wineprefix in there.
So I guess anything less than 128GB should do, Right?
>it will
I assumed so, since it will be handled by idiots most of the time.
>saving any kind of media
Maybe but it won't be more than 10GB mostly VMs images.
>in the future
How long should SSD last?
>no reason to cheap out
Well, what do you suggest I should buy?
There are so many brands.

>>61075126
>How long should SSD last?
forever

Samsung, Intel, some Crucial, some SanDisk

Samsung and Intel have 5 year warranties on their mainstream drives and their own software for data migration, drive health, firmware updates, etc.

>>61075119
NMB is always the superior option for typing. As for trackpoint buttons, probably the chicony by a little since it's less tactile (pretty much silent)

The part numbers for them are different so if you're ebaying, it is possible to know the make. Might even be able to tell which XXXX-YYY config gets which keyboard part number. Though it appears the current iteration of lenovo's support site has decided to not label which column for the models belongs to which model - but this may be of assistance
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/thinkpad-keyboard-identification.634208/

>>61075013
T420BLAZEITs are dirt cheap

>>61075223
How much those cost?
I don't feel like paying for something that's more than the laptop.
Or is it feasible to boot from USB flash drive instead?

>>61073696
T430
>>61074329
>Recommending something that doesn't fulfill all of the requirements because you don't agree with one his point

>>61075366
>recommending something out of his price range
t430s don't go for that cheap normally in bong land
Maybe you could find a really beat up one with no ram/hdd/charger, but if you had to buy those it would be well over his budget.

>>61075013
>Elaborate?
Unless you're piss pot penniless you could throw a T420 down a stormdrain and not cry about having to pay for a new one.

The whole point of a used ThinkPad is they are good, cheap and reliable laptops that you can throw around without really worrying about.

>>61075277

Thank you fellow old tripfriend. You're the first person to answer this and I highly appreciate it. I bought a brand new X220 mobo a little while back and I've wanted to slowly build it up from entirely brand new spares, down to the screws and antenna bands. Many thanks.

>>61075426
People like is the reason we are having a shortage of T420

>>61075426
Not him but maybe "throwaway tier" in the context of Thinkpads but I feel we should respect Thinkpads relative to other laptops so as to not shoot ourselves in the foot...

>>61075500
Thanks for telling me, think I'll go buy ten of them and sit on them for a year or two.

>buy meme x201
>install windows
>try and install drivers

>x201 model is literally missing from Lenovos website
fuck me

Do I get an E6440, t440p, or t540p I'm to poor to afford a W series

>>61075731
e6440
best one in best form factor

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>>61075766
Ok thanks anon

Does the Lenovo Digital Download Recovery Service also install Windows, drivers, and Lenovo programs, or only Windows?

>>61075382
Better something 20-30 pounds higher than something that won't fit him though you're right too
>>61073696 should decide

>>61075596
Honestly even the google links don't function wtf

>>61075731
T440S with T450 touchpad

>>61076086
Why a t440s instead of p?

>>61062501
is there a benefit in getting a t430 with i7-3520M over i5-3360M. thinkwiki says that the i7 only has bigger cache. The i7 version does not have nvidia gpu.

>>61062801
I had some fun gaming with my shitty W520. It's not terrible for gaming but your right it's rather unbalanced.

In Just Cause 2 I had most things set to medium-low settings, but I could leave textures at max as well as the CUDA accelerated water textures.

If you want to game get the (K)2000M though, it's something like double the cores but a lower clock speed to keep the thermals happy.

Also don't get your knickers in a twist for the 1080p screen, it'll molest your performance.

>>61076821
There's no point in either. The i7 is a dual core and the dgpu is a pile of shit

>>61076940
so it is better to get the i5-3360M and later upgrade to quadcore?

>>61076569
P is way too thiccccc. But that's just me.

>>61077007
Definitely

>>61076864
Oh, right, I meant K2000M since it's the W530 dGPU, but at the moment I didn't remember correctly.
Thanks for the advice, although I think that my issues with emulation speed (namely, GC/Wii emulation) might be related to using a fidget spinner drive instead of a SSD. I might land a cheap one for about $60, which has 256gb of storage, hopefully that will fix a few issues.

I still am in doubt, though, is it just a mobo swap or do I have to buy the W530 roll cage, too?

are there free drivers for the wireless cards in the newer Thinkpads ?
in particular T460 and T470

>>61076864
>Also don't get your knickers in a twist for the 1080p screen, it'll molest your performance.
Just don't play games at native res. You still get the beautiful colors, which is the important part of the 1080p screen.

>>61072705
Clean that shit up, fan is probably super dirty.

>>61073403
I swear by Gelid gc extreme

>>61077269
What do you mean by free drivers?

>>61077612
does it need proprietary drivers ?

What's the cheapest T series laptop that supports two internal drives, assuming they exist?

>>61077940
T420. One 2.5" drive and one mSATA drive.

Is there any recommendations on the newer 2 in 1 machines that are now making their way to refurbishment places? I can get something like a Dell Latitude 11 with the keyboard for around £200 or the older Venue 11 Pro for as low as £135. I'm in the market for a tablet and these seem better & cheaper than a shitty Chinese dual boot.

>>61078005
And one in the bay

>>61078018
Can't say much about the newer devices, but I got an x60T for around $30 and it works flawlessly. Flashed it with Libreboot and now use it for as an easy-access backup device for my x220 and for reading ebooks, pfds and manga.

>>61078058
Ya but most people don't have or use the ultrabay.

>>61078132
what? every T420 has an ultrabay

>>61078117

I'd prefer a detachable keyboard style tablet and it at least be modern enough to play something like Hearthstone. I'm willing to spend a bit more than $30 on it haha.

>>61078132
What do you mean most people don't have the ultrabay?
Also it's better than msata. They should

>>61078179
>>61078208
Sorry. I meant the docking station. Originally, when i said one 2.5" drive, I was referring to the one in the bay. Thus, natively the T420 supports two drives, but with the docking station attached, it can support three.

>>61078336
Isn't it one internal, one msata and one ultrabay

>>61078420
Shit. You're right. Forgot about being able to replace the optical disk drive.

>>61074418
my 3630qm w/ 5400m will throttle at full load. Prime, OCCT and memtest. So far I've been able to clock down to 3Ghz @ 94c without throttling or overheating issues.

>>61075596
driver identifier

when they ask you to register, type in a fake name/email, and it will still let you download for free

I spilled beer on my t430 guys, wtf do i do

>>61079509
Suck on the drainage holes.

>>61071473
We all start somewhere.

>>61072199
It is mostly due to the forceful change in market.
Not many people want a powerful CPU in a standard 15" or less PC.
Those who do, ended up buying specialized machines for that. I think the mid/high tier socketed CPU market dried up, as they ended up going high end to CAD or Gaming laptops instead.

>>61070060
I would recommend a X1C3. X1C2's touchpad and keyboard layout was not a success. I am not sure if it can be touchpad swapped.

But if you can get an X1C2 w/ IPS for at a good price... try it out. The FN key thing was not supported under linux. Also they did somethings with the camera that would recognize hand gestures if you decide to use windows.

>>61074373
I've yet be successful with removing a glued on glass touchscreen digitizer, so I haven't really bothered after messing up 3 times.

>>61079509
Twice I spilt beer on my ChromeBook Pixel.
Spacebar was fucked up for 2 days, other than that, its fine, so should be yours.
(we didn't turn the machine off when it happened)

>>61079509
go to AA

>>61079907
My life is not unmanageable :(

I think its fucked guys, im gonna take it apart

Sorry if this belongs in /sqt/. If I bring my T420 to Japan, can I just plug my charger into their outlets or will I need an adapter? I hear the outlet shapes are the same but the voltages differ.

>>61080430
It depends where are from
US, UK, Europe, Australia?

So I punched my x201t.
The glass broke, but the pen and LCD still work.
Can I take out the glass and use it without the screen falling out?

>>61080455
The US.

>>61080552
Does the plug of your charger have a ground pin?
Is it a polarised plug?

>>61073403
arctic silver is old there are better alternatives out that perform better and wont short out your mobo if you get some on it

>>61080576
It has no ground pin. Not sure if it's polarized but it works going into my socket upside down or not.

>>61080676
Then you're good to go. Japan uses what is essentially non-polarised, non-grounded US plugs and the same voltage.

>>61080708
Alright thanks for that.

The screen bezel on my T420 is loose at the top and it's getting in the way of the thinklight.

What's the best way for me to kill myself?

IBM ThinkPad 2647 for 30 dollars, should I???

>>61080837
depends on whether or not you want a $30 paperweight

>>61080856
Thanks, man.

Is there a place where i can buy thinkpads and parts with bitcoin, apart from newegg?

>>61080856
>implying you can't get shit done with a PIII
you fag, RMS has used that machine. It's totally fine if you decide to install gentoo on it.
t. P4 /g/entooman

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I fucked up one of my keyboard connector pins. Pic related.

This feels like a really tiny thing that should be able to be fixed easily but I have little idea how.
It seems like I can just stick a little shred of metal in there and it would work.

>>61080430
>>61080455

It also depends on which part of Japan you're going to.

Japan has two electrical grids, each with different frequencies and voltages.

>>61081096
Well he shouldn't need a power converter because they all have it built in

>>61079509
Turn it off
Remove battery
Take it apart
Wash mobo with isopropyl
Clean out case with damp cloth
Leave everything to dry for a few days
Close everything back up
Try if it works
If rip buy new mobo and be careful in the future
If just keyboard is rip buy new keyboard and be careful in the future

Is there a guide to which new models have a roll cage?

I hear displayport on thinkpads does not support audio, but the wiki is confusing and appears outdated. Is it a thing with the port itself or the drivers? Does it happen on both windows and linux? Am I gonna have trouble attaching it to my tv to watch chinese cartoons? I'm about to buy a t420 by the way

>>61081074
grab some tweezers.

>>61080837
no, avoid.

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>>61081965
>>61081074
well that took a big ball of stress to fix
There's still another piece of copper kicking around on the connector
Pic is only one of my attempts, note the jump it's making. I don't have soldering kit(not that I would use it on a plastic connector) and I didn't want to pull it up again to snap a pic of the working try.
FUCK.

>>61081586
never had a thinkpad with displayport that did not support audio

I've used a T420 with a dp -> hdmi cable on a tv and it worked fine

Does the x230 have any free USB headers on the motherboard that I could use?

>>61082368
>dp -> hdmi cable on a tv worked fine
Nice, that's what I intend to do too

>>61082349
take little pos of shit out yo

>>61082484
I should, but it's out of the way a good bit, inside the ridge of the connector, away from the pins. It should be fine.

>>61081586
the DP port is wired to the nvidia chip if you have one. It will do audio in windows but not in linux, but it should work in linux if you don't have optimus.

>Come home
>Unplug Charger and Battery
>Install new 8gb of ram and SSD into x200t
>Turn on computer
>One short beep, pause, three short beeps, pause, three more short beeps, and one short beep.
>Unplug battery for 20 mins and wait
>Turn on power again
>Same pattern

What else do I do bros? The Lenovo website is shitting itself, and pressing the only link to salvation (" Click here to diagnose the error code") doesn't fucking work.

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>really really want a x300 or x301
>13 inches is the perfect size imo
>looks quite thin and portable
>keyboard is apparently GOAT
>it's fucking rare and expensive


Ok, maybe not THAT rare but I haven't found many, and they tend to be quite expensive, even a x220 is cheaper most of the time.

Also, I'm not sure the CPU is going perform well in the current year, IIRC is a low power core2duo.

Can anyone help on this matter?

>>61082623

if i were you...

id turned it off so cmos would kill itself and maybe fix somethng

>>61082623
>>Install new 8gb of ram and SSD into x200t
unplug, clean any connections, install again, pray to yeezus.

also install ram or ssd only, first. too see which one is causing problems.

>>61082566
>it should work in linux if you don't have optimus
You mean it won't work at all if it's an optimus model?

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>>61082623
what does

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>>61082623
i giue lol see

>>61082677
The CPU is horrible.

NEW

>>61082822

>>61082822

>>61082822

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>>61082623
this my favourite, utuber.

>>61082805
in linux it wont

>>61082373
Probably not
That's more of a 2570p thing

>>61080636
and those are?

>>61077053
Oh I don't mind THICC