/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

>Due to the negative feedback for Gateron switch from market, we no longer use that switch as defaulted switch, if you need, we can also provide, but there is no warranty for keyboard with G switch.

From a Varmilo rep about the Browns. I though Gaterons where the shits?

>>61070682
must have been b4 nations rep was known. Alot of people get mad if it ain't cherry mx switches. That or they are plain lying

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>>61070648
>Budget
$120 or less. Willing to go over if its worth it

>Location
South East US

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Blues

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Tenkeyless or Full

>Backlight
Preferred

>>61070728
Ducky One

>>61070726
gaterons autocorrected to nations. The fuck.

>>61070648
Does anyone actually use lighting unironically? Shits distracting when you are actually typing.

>>61070753
When I can't be arsed to turn the lights on, yeah. But I'll get solid colour keycaps soon with any luck.

>>61070726
Gaterons are fine on a $60 keyboard, but the Varmilos sell for around $160 and up and blatantly advertise Cherry switches. I'd be pissed too if I took off a keycap and found Gaterons.

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First for overpriced abs memes. Pre yellowed for maximum aesthetic.

>>61070726
>>61070769
But aren't Gaterons and especially Brown for what I'm talking about here better then cherries?

>>61070769
Well yeah, but I am saying that there are rabid "cherry mx only" fans out there. Gaterons finally have dethroned cherry mxs so it will be awhile till everyone catches on.

>>61070777
everything besides blues are better for gaterons. Although I did hear that Gateron might actually prelube their shit so that is why they are smooth.

>>61070781
Regardless of how you feel about gateron smoothness, they're still only a fraction of the price of original cherries and a $160 keyboard shouldn't cost this much if it's going to include gaterons.

>>61070682
>negative feedback for Gateron switch from market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2vTStG6Yys

>>61070753
i used to use it until i got legible solid keycaps which just need the light from the pc monitor, not that i look much at my keyboard but i throw glances at it i guess

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>>61070742
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2424 Is this good?

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Thought?

>>61071038
at that point, why not just get blank alphas also?

either way, looks quite nice.

>>61071003
Didn't you want backlighting?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2419

>>61071088
Thank you
Going to grab one next week

>>61071038
What keyboard it is?

>hates logitech
>buys chinese boards

Only /g/...

>Varmilo VA87M black case
>White keycaps
>Laser engraved on front side
>ANSI layout
>Cherry mx brown
>No LED


Did I do good /mkg/?

>>61071241
Good thing Logitech is Swiss then.

>>61071244
>>Varmilo VA87M black case - good
>>White keycaps - good
>>Laser engraved on front side - good
>>ANSI layout - good
>>Cherry mx brown - good
>>No LED - KYS
>Did I do good /mkg/ - no you still have to kys

>>61071244
Better hope it has actual Cherry MX switches. >>61070682

>>61071257
Biggest dilemma and it was only $5 difference.
Didn't want them getting in the way of thick PBTs
>>61071258
Well I sure hope so.

>>61071241
>what is quality
>what is price/performance ratio

I read in le reddit that some guy is designing a discrete buckling spring capacitive switch.
Do you have more information about that proyect?

>>61071422
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/blog/

>>61071431
I'm not talking about the Kishsaver, lad.

>>61071038
This clashes in so many different ways.

>>61071471
link?

>>61071231
>filename

>>61070753
Underglow is nice

>>61071257
Well they will apparently charge me $5 extra for no LEDs because they have a pre-build ready for me.
Guess I don't need to kms

>>61071038
>no bezel 96
my dick

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https://www.aliexpress com/item/Freeing-shipping-keycaps-blank-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-black-thick-keycap-for-mx-wried-mechanical-gaming/32797695882.html

Thoughts?
Looking like legit enojyPBTs?

>>61070648
>Budget
$100-150 Canuckistan dollars
>Location (continent at least)
Western Canada
>Preferred switch type
Cherry mx blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
tenkeyless
>Backlight
None
>Previous/current keyboards
shitty wireless membrane keyboard that came with the computer

>>61071930
Ducky One

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What to get? I can't decide.

>>61072316
If the Japanese is on the table then get that, imo.

Why does anyone ever spend more than 20 cents per switch?

>>61072365
i'd probably pay more for beam spring switches

For any Australian anons out there

I purchased a tada68 from kbdfans on 17/06/17 and it was here within a week from Ching Chong land.

That's pretty decent shipping time given it was free.

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Getting black blank EnjoyPBT for my just ordered Varmilo VA87M.

Just fuck my shit up

Posted in the last thread but didnt get any response so here i am again

>Budget
About 100$
>Location (continent at least)
Poland
>Preferred switch type
MX Cherry Red
>Layout
ANSI, preferably with play/next song etc buttons
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Just not some flashy ones
>Previous/current keyboards
Bought my first mechanical keyboard today (without making a lot of research honestly...), a Steelseries 6g v2, and im really disappointed because it just doesnt feel like an upgrade from my Microsoft Sidewinder x4 which I had for past 3 years and its still in perfect condition.

>just finished building B.Mini
>E and F9 keys don't work
We should've just holocausted those Korea gooks desu senpai

>>61072881
Did you at least check the pcb before you started or are you completely retarded

>>61072546
the VA87M comes with pbt keycaps.

That satisfying feeling when one switch on your keyboard isn't seated properly so you open it up, heat up the solder joints and fix it so all the switches are nice and aligned again

>>61073583
Sure, but not blank blacks that I want.

>>61073609
Can't you order blanks with their custom board service, or is that dyesub only

>>61073650
You can order blanks but they don't offer black ones. I went with the milky whites for options. Both will get good use when I get my 60% further on.

Are oetmu switches decent?

>>61073765
They're the best in their price category - which is objectively lower than cherry or gateron.

They're probably better than like kailh and shit like that. You'll usually find them in $20-$30 chinkboards. If you're paying $50 or more you can easily get gaterons instead (heck, the james donkey is like $40 last I checked). But if you want a budget mech, and you're not overpaying, then they're pretty alright.

Tl;dr great budget switches, you get what you pay for though

You guys use O-Rings?

Worth it? I mean they are cheap, already ordered but wondered if they are used or not so much.
I think they will make my browns feel even better.

I want to hand wire a ISO layout 63keys kbrd. This is what I will buy, tell me if it make sense.

- Plate: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/60-Aluminum-Mechanical-Keyboard-Plate-support-xd60-xd64-gh60-silver-color/3034003_32814937970.html

- Case: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-Keyboard-60-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Base-Seat-Plastic-Protective-Case-Frame-For-GH60-For-POKER2/32770572628.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_10139_10136_10137_10060_10155_10062_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10182_10078_10079_10073_10123_10189_142,searchweb201603_9,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=a6fed6fe-b48d-4110-a4d6-87fc13e6446e&algo_expid=74037c40-fd9d-4574-8499-f8cfc014b10f-6&algo_pvid=74037c40-fd9d-4574-8499-f8cfc014b10f

- Controler: Arduino micro ? what would be a good controler choice ?

- Stabiliser: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Transparent-Black-PCB-Plate-Stabilizers-for-Custom-Mechanical-Keyboard-gh60-xd64-xd60-xd84-eepw84-tada68-zz96/32817959897.html

So yeah, I don't want a PCB and I don't need leds.

Also, good source for cheap plates and cases ?

The GH60 plates and case are the cheapest so just go with those. If you really want ISO then that will limit your choices for keycaps

>>61074475

I'm aware that ISO keycaps are harder to find but I'm thinking of painting them on the front side.

Are the switches themselves from mechanical keyboards waterproof? I'm wondering if it's enough to create a waterproof seal between the plate and the switch and the case to make a waterproof keyboard.

>>61074626
no

>>61074664
That's what I thought. Are there any waterproof switches, or is there a relatively easy way to make them waterproof?

>>61074626
There are waterproof mechanical keyboards, but the switches them selves will short if any water gets inside

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>>61074688
Just use a membrane layer to seel the keyboard

>>61072922
No

>>61074722
how can topre even compete

>>61074722
That looks like it would ruin the feel of the switches. Doesn't seem worth it for the small chance of having water spill over it or something, to me at least.
Guess what I wanted isn't achievable, thanks mates.

>>61074199
They're awful, they make bottoming out feel like poking jelly.

>>61074688
Kailh box switches are as water resistant as your average modern smartphone iirc

>>61074770
Then get a capacitive switch instead of a mechanical one since most of those are waterproof. The feel doesn't change that much as the rubber membrane slightly increases the resistance

>>61074774
poking jelly sounds fun

>>61074774
just get stiffer o-rings

>>61074806
Or I could use no o-rings and enjoy the satisfying clack of hard plastic on hard plastic

>>61074786
Seems those are IP56 yeah, I'll keep those in mind.
>>61074791
I'd rather not sacrifice too much for waterproofing/resistance. And getting a membrane for the correct size seems like a nightmare unless you stick to standard sizing.

>>61074722
Yeah I will totally turn my 450$ mechanical board in to membrane.

What was the point of falling for mech meme then?

>>61074854
the activation point is above the dome

>>61074854
>450$
Dumb yuropoor detected
Of cource you'd think 450 is a lot of money.
Besides thats the cheapest keyboard with cherry MX switches at only 35€, which is perfect for porrfags like you. and you can take it off if you don't like it

give me good keyboard

>>61074935
Leopold FC980C/M

>>61074935
TADA68

>>61074935
Ducky One

>>61070771
i want a gmk plum tada so bad

>>61074935
Fuck no, buy it yourself faggot.

>>61074441
>controller
Atega32u4

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what do PBT keycaps feel like? is it true they feel gritty like some shitty old plastic would feel like? why would you want that? I know they last long but you get bored of keyboard/keycaps after 3-5 years anyway.

>>61075420
they feel good as fuck it's like a really fine grit

they make smooth ones too
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gray-Beige-Mixed-YMDK-Cherry-Profile-ANSI-104-Dye-Sub-Thick-PBT-Smooth-Feeling-Keycap-For/32813072835.html

>>61075420
cheaper chinese pbt definately have that grit feel that makes typing fucking hurt desu. But quality PBT the grit is only there when its new. they feel really nice after you break them in

>>61075420
good quality ABS > bad quality pbt imo

>>61072316
russian so you can pretend to be a 1337 hax0r

>>61075018
I will kill you now

>>61072316
weeb

>>61075420
PBT is a softer plastic then ABS. It comes in both rough and smooth varieties

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I found this for $85
Worth?

>>61076159
No its worth like 40$ new,

>>61076159
hell no

it's like $40 new? (maybe not the same version)
https://www.amazon.com/Geezer-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-keyboard/dp/B01GKQ2OVA

even for $40 i'm not sure it's worth it

>>61072316
Russian so you can type cyкa блядь properly

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>Ducky One
>Cherry mx brown
>RGB
How much did I mess up?

>>61074441
Just don't buy those stabilizers, they're shit that rattle, bad.

>>61076903
Is it the new one with PBT keycaps, or the old one with ABS

>>61076903
Depend on its price. but Ducky is a nice keyboard.

>>61076290
>>61076292
Then someone got scammed
This is one of those discount stores that sells returned items
Looks like someone switched keyboards because the box is for a DAS

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ive got old man keyboard currently, and cherry blues are fucking sweet, however i want to build my own board. Do i need fancy dickhead soldering iron or will my hong kong special work?

>>61076903
as long as you tried the browns before you bought them you did ok

>>61076903
>fell for the non clicky meme

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Hello guys,
need advice. I found this keyboard at workshop. I even have keycaps but i took them off.
Unfortunately motherboard is broken in few parts and one of IOs is kinda broken.
So I wanted to ask if there is any project of full size keyboard so I can reuse switches.
Or do you have any other ideas of usage of these switches?

>>61077104
which is better cherry, or costar? if cherry, why can't the chinks clone it properly?

>>61079322
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6hu3yx/vendor_ymd96_gb_is_now_live_68_an_universal_and/

So what good Gateron Brown keyboards are there? The Plum 104 Black has been out of stock for a while and that thing looked fucking gorgeous, so that's a bummer.

Cherry MX Brown alternatives would also be appreciated

>>61079434
thx anon for reply

>>61079586
See >>61070682
Varmilo can do it for you. Won't lower the overall price tho.

>>61079586
Cooler Master Masterkeys PBT

Filco?

>>61079586
Tada68

>>61079870
>1.5mm thicc
nice

>>61079434

Another Anon but I'm looking for a similar kit in a 60-64 form factor (ISO compatible). 96 is just too much for me.

>>61072782
Corsair Strafe

>>61076903
>Ducky One
Great value.

>Cherry mx brown
Gateron browns are better, but it's not absolutely awful.

>RGB
Gay.

>>61080082
GH60 is a 62 or 63 key keyboard depending on the layout. Its so old and popular that a whole kit yould cost you 70 bucks including everything

>Budget
$150 or less.

>Location
Northwest US

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Tenkeyless or Full

>Backlight
Yeah

>>61080244
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>61080163

Ok, I found a bunch of PCB for GH60(satan ?). How do you control the underglow led and individual key leds ? Can it be software-controlled or is it hard-coded into the controler ?

>>61080295
>tkl or full
>this faggot recommends the tada
The tada is an absolutely fantastic board, with great build quality, no particular defects or gotchas, exceptional keycaps, full programmability, and a very affordable price tag. One thing it is not, however, is a board with a large form factor - it's 65% and nothing can change that.

I've seen people complaining about tada recommendations being spammed, and I think the reason that would come up is because of retards like you posting it when it's not at all relevant.

>>61080487
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>Budget
<200 EUR

>Location
EU

>Switch
Linear Red

>Layout
Both ok.

>Form factor
80% with function keys and arrows, no numpad.
Wired connection - no bluetooth.
Atleast 1 USB port on keyboard preferred.

>Backlight
Yes

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is the fnatic rush a meme keyboard?
gaming keyboards are the only ones i cant get my hands on in my third world country and it has the least amount of tacky gamer shit on it and also the plastic thickness looks decent

>Budget
None really but ideally 100-150 USD

>Location
US

>Switch
Clicky White or Blue. White if it isn't too inconsistent.

>Layout
Either

>Form factor
Either 100% or 80% w/o numpad
Atleast 1 USB port on keyboard preferred.

>Backlight
Yes

>>61080434
GH60 is an open source PCB that each manufacturer has their own version. The one you picked does have software control through qmk for the LEDs, but I thing the underglow is done with hardware

Thoughts on CORSAIR K65 LUX?

>>61080728
MEME
E
M
E
What third world country? You can probably do better unless you live in Brazil.

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Any suggestions for readily available keycap sets that would look good on this keyboard, the drevo gramr? Anything I can buy easily with out having to wait months or join a group buy.

It seems like a $40 Noppoo Choc mini minus the POM(which I love) so you can't go wrong there.

>>61080728
Let us know what country you're in. You'd be surprised, unless you live in Brazil.

>>61081979
KBDFans, UKKeycaps, aliexpress, and even Taobao have a few sets to choose from. There are a few group buys ongoing right now that do have the correct keycaps, but those add on sets cost more.

How did the Shine 6 turn out to be such a disaster? Ducky hasn't learned a single thing. All downhill since Shine 3.

>>61082137
Shine 5 was pretty gud and a huge step up in build quality over the shine 4. The shine 3 was rebranded to the Ducky One, but who knows what the fuck Ducky was smoking when they came up with the shine 6

>>61082137
They correctly identified that the trend in mechanical keyboards is towards flashy gamer aesthetics. Unfortunately nobody in the west that is not a minimalistic keyboard hipster has even heard of ducky. If razer used the same design it would sell like hotcakes.

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Found this in my garage. What even is this?

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>>61082978
The back.

>>61081979
>Any suggestions for readily available keycap sets that would look good on this keyboard,
None. It uses non-standard keycap sizes.
Hope some poor bastard decides to start a groupbuy and then buy a set.

>>61082978
Looks like a minty Model F. Nice find.

Did it come with the PC?

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>>61082978
Nice find, keep it.

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>>61083017
That has a more standard space bar than my noppoo(which has a few sets available) and the only oddities I'm seeing are the 1u right alt, fn, ctrl, and tiny shift. I don't think I'll have any issue finding key caps for it?
I'm actually leaning towards the Ak33 now though because they have RGB versions for only $15 more than the gramr and the stock keycaps have nice, normal, legends that are shine through. If you like RGB at all I don't think anything is going to compete for $55.

>>61082978
Model F AT, the best modern layout model F keyboard and the nicest tactile beast short of an old beamspring. It's worth about $200-$300.

I'd just get a cheap adaptor and use it though. It's AT so you can use it on modern computers without a lot of crazy converters or controllers.

Thoughts on Dell AT101W for typing and light gaming?

>>61083902
It's cheap and good. I'm not a huge linear fan personally, but gamers like that sort of thing.

>>61083878
The only keycaps that would fit are aftermarket group order sets like from GMK and even then there would be issues with the 1u row in the right.

>>61077841
Any 0.5-1mm tip and flux.

t. $30 soldering station owner

my new poker 2 wobbles when i push the backspace or other top right keys

does anyone know a fix?

>>61084287
Mine does too replace the feet

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Anyone know what keycap set this is? Its what im looking for but i sucks with the googles

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>>61084596
SP Granite DSA

>>61084586
with what?

>>61084617
Any other kind of rubber feet. Before that I put a guitar pick under one corner.

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Mechanical switch keychain came in the mail today. Quite well made. Lights up when pressed. Came with a huano blue switch. Pretty good for $3.50 @ eBay.

Is the ergodox a meme?

>>61083878
you'll never find drevo gramr compatible keycaps with legends. and given how fucking nonstandard that layout is, you'd definitely want legends.

by the time you buy all the extra keycaps for that thing, you'll move on to something else.

I'd just skip it and buy something that you can actually easily modify.

drevo gramr's not a bad looking board but that font is atrocious. I couldn't look at it for more than few hours. those chinks completely destroyed the keyboard with a shit font.

>Budget
$120 MAX
>Location (continent at least)
Missouri
>Preferred switch type
The most tactile possible (I think MX browns right?)
>Layout
Qwerty?
>Form factor
N/A
>Backlight
prefered, RGB doesn't matter as log as its backlit non backlit is also ok
>Previous/current keyboards
Some redragon gaymer keyboard

>>61084708
your whole post is WTF. gave a chuckle. not sure if trolling or not but here's a (You).

>>61084740
Whats wrong with it? I don't really understand what "layout" means, but is that enough to be rude?

>>61084763
I'm gonna say you're a troll since browns are some of the least tactile switches. Anyway have a nice day! No more (You)s from me

>>61084779
Dude I honestly don't know, I know MX Blues are really clicky but I don't know if they're tactile, I guess ill just stick to my current keyboard

just wondering, what's the average amount of money you guys spend a year on your keyboard hobby>

>>61084828
$40k here

>>61084828
$250 or so. given how I don't smoke, don't drink and don't have a wife, that's fucking nothing.

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>>61084828
I buy one of these every other week. Some are 600, some are a 2000. I'd say about 40,000 a year

>>61084814
If you want more tactile than Cherry MX brown, Gateron brown or MX clear.

But Cherry MX browns are nice if you ask me. I like that subtle tactile.

>>61084925
I want really tactile, not aubtle or anything

>>61074827
Non-contact switches + conformal coating.

Hall effect boards can be made completely waterproof. I'm not sure about Topre. I'm pretty sure their coil springs need to be in contact with the sensor pads.

>>61084946
Strong tactility but quiet = Matias quiet click switches

>>61084946
Maybe you want Matias switches. But the keycaps are not Cherry compatible.

>>61085009
I just want a cheap tactile board

>tfw I don't own a 96 key board with standard keycaps
Why are CM such pricks? The QF TK would be half decent if I could change all the keycaps.

>>61084669
Being a 75% fag is torture. The noppoo choc mini is awesome and all but they're out of production, rgb models are rare now, key chatter problems.
It uses a 5.5 space bar but it comes with black or white then you can easily buy a few other color 5.5u spacebars and it really opens up keyset possibilities. Expecially because the plum84 IS the noppoo choc mini just with shitty fake topre. Same exact tooling and the chinks think the board is pretty popular and so are including 5.5u space bars more often in their keysets.
I'm not sure what to get. Just want a 75% with standard key layout but outside of building my own and group buys thats hard to find. Thinking maybe I'll just give up and get a normal TKL.

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just get logitech k120. there's no better keyboard today.

>>61085043
>Quickfire
>non standard bottom row
The reason why CM release Masterkeys series. Too bad they not yet announce Masterkeys M with PBT caps.

i have never bothered with keyboards really, just using what i had, but the other day i tried the logitech k840 on display at best buy and i wanted it so bad, it is subdued and not gamery and felt pleasant to type on

what u friends here think of that keyboard?

>>61085019
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1324

Is this keyboard any good?
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K550-Customizable-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B00Y7JTJ8E?th=1

>>61085138
Not the fan of Romer G, but if you like that then go for it.
K840 is a cheaper version of G413, of course with less feature too.

>>61085236
oh i see now, as i would find a backlight useful being a part time cave-dweller i'll probably go for the g413 as it looks pretty much identical

Can you guys tell me what this is about?
>I noted you are working in bank? so will the keyboard use in bank or ? since our keyboard defaulted version is NKRO, but bank PC belongs to high safety machine, the general identification for keyboard is six key no rush, NKRO does not belong to standard protocols. Therefore, if you need six keys no rush, I will ask production department to set six key no rush as defaulted for you. Once you touch the seventh keys, then the keyboard will become a NKRO automatically.

>>61085347
With USB, it usually has to pretend to be more than one board to get past 6key. So having the system see an extra keyboard plugged in might set off some security stuff.

>>61085066
I'm tempted to get a K120 just to remind myself how terrible rubberdomes are.

You guys seen the new Masterkeys Pro S PBT?

Has the thicc 1.5mm PBT caps and a replaceable controller (like the QFR)

>>61085138
Don't do it, you won't be able to switch out your keycaps for better ones when you want them, and the ones they come with are total crap.

There's way better options, but make sure you pick something with at least a Cherry stem like Cherry MX or Gateron switches.

Here's a random keyboard that is infinitely better (and maybe cheaper) than that Logitech crap.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1555

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Anybody know of a keyboard out there with the same layout as the HHKB Pro 2?

Doesn't matter what type of switches, just anything other than topre or rubber dome,

>>61085347
>>61085380
They'll either enumerate as multiple keyboards/composite device, or as a non-keyboard device that just so happens to send keyboard scancodes. The latter is actually worse in a high-security environment because IT may have alarms set up to detect unauthorized devices. A USB keyboard device can't do anything but be a keyboard, but a "non-keyboard" could be anything in addition to sending scancodes.

>>61085439
KBDFans has a MX HHKB kit.

https://kbdfans.cn/collections/keyboard/products/hhkb-layout-mechanical-keyboard-60?variant=37201247437

>>61070648
The most """important""" thing I'm looking for in a keyboard is a 3.5mm jack port to comfily plug my short-cabled headphones in.

>Budget
up to 120$
>Location (continent at least)
Eastern Europe
>Preferred switch type
Browns (Cherry or some clone)
>Layout
The one with a two-row Enter, but doesn't really matter that much
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
Not needed, but I guess there are no options without it
>Previous/current keyboards
a cheap A4Tech membrane with audio ports

Maybe there is some really worthwhile keyboard with such a gimmick? 'G.Skill Ripjaws KM780' fits the bill, but it looks tacky.

>>61085439
Oh and KBDfans have a listing for another HHKB like board called TINA

https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941

>>61084652
About as much of a meme as any $250-300+ kbs. Do you want to spend that much money on what it's offering? If not, then don't. Also bear in mind the learning curve once you start using it. Personally, it's probably my end-game keyboard.

Or if you want to build one yourself, it's a bit cheaper. But if you're doing this go for full meme points and build yourself a Dactyl

>>61084988
Different anon here, I've seen these recommended before and I have to wonder - how do they compare to e.g. cherry clears?

>>61085719
Haha, holy shit. The Dactyl looks like something right out of an 80s sci-fi movie. That's awesome

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>>61084669
>>61083017
>>61081979
don't listen to these newfags

here is an example:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Thick-pbt-84-side-printed-Keycap-High-wear-resistance-For-OEM-Profile-Cherry-MX-Switches/32790881284.html

1.75u shift and 1u bottom row modifiers aren't too uncommon. the only thing that can fuck you up are the legends/profiles on the right hand side keys but even if you don't find the right keys you can make it work with slightly mismatched profiles with e.g. home/pgup/pgdn/end or with meme keys.

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>>61085484
Klictro is a cheap chink brand that has those. They use kailh switches

>>61085417
any reccs for similar feeling switches?

>>61085755
Tactility on the Matias switches is stronger and crisper, and the actual key travel is much smoother. They're basically modern simplified ALPS switches with down- and up-stroke noise dampeners.

Tactility on MX switches is just weaksauce in general, though. Since the tactile component is the switch slider itself, they can't risk anything more than weak tactility for fear of fucking up the force curve or having the switch bind up.

everyone and their mother are getting into 65%/75%/90% layouts. keycap availability will only improve from here

>>61085775
Huh, looks like the Rosewill RK9100.

>>61086010
Or the night hawk X8.

/mkg/'s feeling about outemu/gaote? Reviews say they're pretty ok.

>>61086050
They're all bottom-tier chink switches suitable for $30 keyboards. Only Gateron manages to surpass Cherry, at least when it comes to everything but Blues.

>>61086050
Better than Kailh.

>>61086050
outemu blue is good

these days they're selling kailh switches on $160-200 keyboards so who knows what is true and what is memes

>>61086132
If you're talking about Razer, it's because it's fucking Razer.

>>61086181
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-input-club-k-type-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard

halo true/clear has potential (we'll have to see what people who bought them say about them) but they're offering normal kailh switches too

>>61086127
Not this shit again. Kailh MX switches are actually pretty decent, below only Gateron and Cherry themselves. They have a bad reputation thanks to Razer using Greetech (which were complete shit) interchangeably with Kailh for their Razer switches.

Their new box switches with click bars in particular feel very snappy compared to MX switches with tactile bumps or click jackets, which was a nice surprise.

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how the fuck do i get the dip switch 4 thing to work on the new poker ii

>>61085066
10 years ago I was playing world of warcraft and my keyboard stopped working. I went to walmart and picked up the cheapest keyboard (K120) and I am still typing on it today.

I was gifted a das ultimate ~4 years ago, but because I was often up at night I just continued to use the K120 because it was more quiet.

>>61085775
>Klictro
hot damn, thanks, never would've found it.
a great option, a shame that it costs about as much as G.Skill KM780, which has a sweet volume wheel

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>i have a mechanical keyboard
>my wpm is below 100

Good tier (Gateron > cherry) > Chinkshit tier (kailh > outemu) > Just plain shit tier (greentech > romer g, other random shit)
Discounting specific exceptions (e.g. Cherry blue > gateron blue), did I get it right?

>>61087843
vintage blacks :^)

>>61087872
This is 4chan, you can just say "old niggers"

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>>61080487
>I've seen people complaining about tada recommendations being spammed

That happened to be me, and not only I've seen it non stop, I also got it thrown at me

>ask for a tkl, blue backlight kb
>tada68
>and to put the cherry on top of the cake I got shat on when I said it wasn't what I was looking for

Yes, we know, it's a good keyboard, but don't recommend it if people are looking for something else ffs

>>61087945
Exactly. Part of me is starting to think it's false-flaggers trying to turn a good keyboard into a hated meme by spamming it, even though that's completely autistic. But then again this is 4chan, the autism hub of the internet, so you never know.

>Budget
Around 120$
>Location (continent at least)
Norway
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Brown
>Layout
ISO, nordic layout (with æoå)
>Form factor
TKL or 65-75 area
>Backlight
Doesn't matter, but i rarely use backlit on if my keyboard supports it
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using the Vortex Pok3r (60%). But i spilled over it some months ago, managed to save it by pouring water all over it and baking it in the oven (lul). Now the FN button is not working.

Also i miss the F1-12 buttons for keybinds.

I asked here a few days ago but I passed out and completely forgot about it

>Budget
$300 AUD
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Blue or Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Not needed but would be nice
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Shine 3 | Ducky Shine 5

>>61076524
I can type eбaл твoй poт without any labels on my keyboard. Please don't be a russaboo and go for jaypaneese

I'm newfag

>Budget
about $120 USD

>Location (continent at least)
US

>Preferred switch type
Not sure, but not going to be doing a lot of gaming... most likely just code and shitposting. Something clicky might be nice.

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
60% or just something easily portable

>Backlight
fuck no

>Previous/current keyboards
x220 keyboard :^)

>>61089617
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>61076903
>How much did I mess up?
Cherry Browns are great! It is a light switch that still has some tactile feedback when you press it. Just know that you won't hear a click or have strong rebound and resistance.

Browns aren't special as being the clicky one, super soft, really hard or whatever so people knock them. Browns are a great switch to just get on with an type. Imho, all the other switches can sometimes be too much to an extreme but Browns are always fine.

Gaterons are almost identical and frankly you'll feel better owning actual Cherry switches than copies.

>>61087250
You have to unplug the keyboard before you flip the dip switch.

>touch type
is there some method to improve my touch typing from 90 WPM to 100 + (help I am stuck on this interval for a 3 months

>>61090533
Don't listen to anything this faggot says

So I keep seeing Gateron Blues being bashed, but the only tangible argument I've seen against them is their additional 5g of weight. So is there anything else wrong with them? Because if it's just slightly heavier, I don't see why everyone would parrot that they're objectively worse than Cherry blues, given that switch choice is normally quite subjective. Like, if I don't mind heavier switches, but I can't be bothered to try finding or building something with greens (or greens may be a bit too much for me), will I be completely fine with gat blues? Or do they actually feel worse in some other way?

>>61085066
K200 is good too. It's the K120 with 8 multimedia keys, but the right super key is missing.

>>61090700
Gaterons blues have a much higher pitch then cherry blues, and o-rings don't help changing it. If you don't care about the sound and the slightly wobblier and inconsistant feel then go ahead and get gat blues

>>61090818
>slightly wobblier and inconsistent feel
See, that's what I was looking for. So they really are objectively inferior purely in terms of typing quality.

I'd assume if you're getting clicky switches you already accept that it's going to have a loud, possibly annoying sound, so a slightly higher pitch would probably not matter to most people (at least me)

>>61090661
Don't listen to this faggot, Cherry MX browns are nice.

>>61090533
is this bait?

>>61091083
It might be bait, but people who prefer Cherry MX browns do exist.

>>61091009

Cherry browns are nice. Saying gateron browns are inferior is being a faggot though.

>>61072316
Those are cool as fuck, can you share the source?

Also, why are keycaps so fucking pricey? Why do I need to repay $50-80 just for fucking plastic? I don't know much about keycaps, are they hard to produce, or is it just a markup?

>>61090846
Clicky switches wobble in general due to their design. While I haven't tried them people say cherry whites are the worst offender and even wobblier and more inconsistant then even kailh switches.

>>61091287
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys

these ones in particular are expensive mostly because they have a very high quality print (dye-sublimated). you can get blank keycaps which have the same quality of the plastic but without the print:

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys

and the reason the blank ones are still a bit pricey is because they are made of thick pbt plastic and they are nicely textured

>>61091397
Thanks, appreciate that info.

I wish my 3D printer was good enough to make my own :(

>>61091287
Its the molds and tooling. Proper dye-sub uses a vacuum chamber and expensive ink, and doubleshots are even more expensive since you need a seperate mold for each keycap

>>61091403
this one is worth looking at too if you want a cheaper alternative. they use the same plastic keycaps (made by gateron) but the legends are printed by a different company.

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/one-dye-subbed-keycap-set-104keys

>>61091411
Huh, didn't know that. Always figured the "premium" price was from the switches and hardware, didn't know the caps actually played a role in the price.


>>61091431
Thanks, I have a DKZero and a Das4, so nothing special that I feel the need to spend a lot on keycaps (until I settle on a higher end longer term one). I do like those Cryllics though, and the the alternatice sticker overlays seem trashy

>>61091330
Oh. So Gaterons aren't particularly worse than cherries?

Still seems like the extra 5g is their only "fault". Could anybody pitch in with a comparison from personal experience?

Are cheap keysets like:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/101-AT-Keycaps-EN-RU-Black-Red-Cyrillic-Cherry-MX-Double-shot-moulding/182627929024?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D9b919be77f5548d2a03abcad063e125d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172725483805&autorefresh=true

Ever worth it? Or will I just end up disappointed and down $20

>>61091565
Well the sub legends are pad printed, and it looks like they just took the old keycaps of a chicony keyboard and are trying to resell them, but maybe I'm wrong. Anway since its thin ABS expect them to shine and develop a grim after a year. If you want longer lasting keycaps get PBT instead. Good PBT can last 30+ years and still look brand new.

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tell me about DSA. why is it so popular now? why do so many ppl prefer it?

>>61090533
Me again. Think of Cherry Browns as the quintessential keyboard switch from which every other switch branches off from. Either you add resistance, decrease resistance or add clicking noise. Basically the only reason people hate on Browns is their associations with the colour Brown.

Cherry Blues are scientifically determined by Germans to be the perfect keyboard switch and the Brown version is for more reserved and quieter people, like Canadians and Hackers.

>>61091960
Its uniform so you can re arrange the keycaps without making the keyboard look like shit

>>61092001
No that would be Blacks you sweddish cuck

>>61091330
>Clicky switches wobble in general due to their design.
Gateron Blues wobble less than Cherry Blues but that may not be a good thing? Opaque plastic housing is more durable over time than untested clear housing, obviously. Where is your loyalty?

>>61088879
Which switches did you get for the Duckys?

That said, Gateron Browns are better, but the chink boards they come with aren't that great. I don't care much for Blues ever since trying Buckling Springs and Matias.

>>61092046
>Blacks
>cuck
You may benefit from psychoanalyses.

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I need a method to "print" legends onto the sides of keycaps like in this pic. Since it won't be a 'high wear' area, what method could I use to make it look nice and professional? Does anyone know a way? Some method from arts & crafts maybe?

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Need to replace the snapped switch on the poker 3 still

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Threw my black keycaps on my Magicforce that used to have the white POMs from my noppoo because the POM just feels way nicer than that PBT.
Friendly reminder to always buy the black memeforce because the silver looks like trash regardless of keycaps.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dan-ink-pbt-all-over-dye-subbed-keycap-set?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=TQKJZV&mode=guest_open&utm_campaign=Automated%20Daily%20Promotional%202017-06-26&utm_source=SparkPost&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily%20Promotional&utm_content=1498473574113.465572310795844045654789

isn't there somebody in here who has this on like a MF or something? They had a black chasis that looked way nice the translucent w/ LED looks terrible.

I think the person here said they even got this shit off ali for really cheap

>>61092129
crayola

I thought all ABS shined after a while; does doubleshot ABS shine far slower to justify the price that places like pmk charge?

I like a keyset they have but having no experience with doubleshot abs(only with abs and pbt) I'm a bit worried about pulling the trigger on them because I worry they'll shine in less than a year or two.

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>>61092059
What are you talking about? Clicky switches wobble do to the two peice mechanism. Whites are the first clicky switches made back in 87 and are inconsistant due to being a first attempt. Blues and greens are better, but gateron clicky switch problems are well documented over reddit. I go by the facts and evidence. I know that gateron has improved their molds since their newer switches wobble a lot less then before. I wouldn't be surprised if they surpass cherry switches. Now for cherry I heard a couple rumors that cherry changed their toolings to compete with gateron, but there haven't been any official reports yet. If its true then its nice that smooth switches are coming to the market

>>61093393
Nah they last about a year longer before shinning, but the legends will never fade off

>>61092847
the seiden.tech tripfag has it

Just cleaned my keyboard, feels good

>>61093919
Now clean up your life and get a real hobby

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>>61093935
I hear Russian roulette is hot right now. you should partake in it.

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>>61093755
thanks m8 I was hoping i wasn't crazy. His setup looked nicer than this

>>61083878
>bought this for $30 shipped
>2 months ship time
Fug, what if its utter shit and I need to return it how long would the return even cost?

>Budget
120$
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
MX Cherry Blue
>Layout
ISO
but ANSI is fine
>Form factor
88 key/ no numpad
>Backlight
don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Rosewill, had to send back because of faulty USB connection

>>61093955
Only if we play together

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>>61092847
yes hello this is a keyboard

>>61094093
i tried to find you an ISO keyboard but they're all pretty expensive. i would recommend ANSI anyway.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/32285359058.html

>>61094170
You mentioned you got those off ali right? how much were they compared to whats on massdrop now? It looks p-dope, i was hoping to find this style in blue

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>>61094196
>You mentioned you got those off ali right?
I got the caps of pic related off ali, the dan ink caps are off assdrop

>>61091431
Except the vendor is listed as NPKC literally at the bottom you dumbass.

>>61094223
jesus take more pictures you weeb, I have seen this shit on every thread.

>>61094283
This desu, I started coming here like 3 weeks ago and I'm already getting tired of these ~4 stock pictures
It's basically avatarfagging at this point

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Side printed, Top Printed, or Blanks?

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>>61094283
>take more pictures you weeb
I would but it doesn't change very much and I'm lazy

>>61094302
Top printed for normie tier - cba to change it
Blanks for haxx0r tier - my eventual goal but cba to learn the symbol keys by heart
Side for middle ground - cba to find a good set (plus I only have a tada right now and don't feel like changing its keycaps just for a different print)

>>61094264
gateron makes the blank cherry profile keycaps and sells them to NKPC/enjoypbt/others, NKPC/enjoypbt or some other company prints them, and NKPC/enjoypbt sells them

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But...but it was my payday today.

>>61094347
*NPKC

>>61094347
Except people have reported differences in gateron on NPKC keycaps. NPKC is a very popular keycaps vendor

>>61094374
NPKC sells OEM profile keycaps too. i'm talking about cherry profile.

https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=88323.0

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>>61094356
my question is how profitable is this keycap selling business that chinks can just straight up going to japan?
>>61072316
>Taiwan Numba 1 >kpop >>>>> weeaboo

>>61094382
That is literally one guy asking a friend if it is the same. I wouldn't trust it until testing is done. Still if they are similar I wouldn't mind just going npkc then.

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>>61094412
+1 for kpop
-1 for japs for Topres

>>61094431
more details here

https://imgur.com/a/dSdmL

>>61094412
he might have gone to japan for business reasons

>>61094507
Well then... Sorry for calling you a dumbass

So, Topres are literally a rubber dome. Question: what makes them special?

Not in terms of the price, because you can take literally anything and make it cost two orders of magnitude more by going full meme on the production, materials, etc. But rather in terms of typing. Does it actually feel better than your average rubber dome? How?

>>61094604
They are just rubber domes with a more pronounced bump and sound to them. I don't like them, they feel kinda.... mushy? When you press down and traditional cherry switches you can actually feel when the actuation force bottomed out. You can't feel those on topres.

They are just overpriced and few people own them. I guess it is just buyer's remorse or some shit. I do have a cheaper realforce, but I kinda regret buying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbb3CihZw5k
Here is a good review for it.

>>61094604
They work through capacitive sensing of a spring instead of contacts, so you don't have to bottom out too register the keypress. The spring contributes nothing to the feel though; it's too light and it's only there to trip the sensor. The domes collapse more smoothly than cheap ones. You sort of feel them give initially but then they retain a little resistance the rest of the way down so you don't just slam the key down instantly.

I don't like them personally. They're still rubber domes and feel like it.

>>61094589
np

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>>61070648
Is this a meme?

>>61095804
Masterkeys M PBT when?

>>61095804
it looks really good for $80. i'd go with green or blue switches tho

>>61095804
Ducky One with MX Silvers is $10 more. Makes me wonder what the catch is.

>>61095804
Are the keycaps laser-etched?

they're trash if they are

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>Budget:
100$
>Location
Yuropoor, poortugal
>Prefered switch:
I like resistance, but I'm not sure. I think something along the black or transparent ones.
>Layout
Both are cool by me, maybe ANSI would be better since I want it to code and write english.
>Form
No numpad
>Backlight
No thanks, I'm not a fag.
>Previous / current keyboard
Last thing I used that wasn't a laptop keyboard was a some shitty generic cheap keyboard with high keys and membrane, I don't really know much about keyboards.

Once upon a time, I was a little kid, and I liked computers. When I pressed a key on the keyboard, I could feel it go down with a clack and it was really cool, and I enjoyed it a lot. One day, though, keyboards stopped being like that for no reason, and I was pretty sad, but I just thought "well, that's the way things are now, I guess" and dealt with it, and then I found out these keyboards were still a thing, and now I want one.

The end.

So, can you give me some suggestions /g/enpai?

>>61095949
MX silvers/speed cost more just because its a gaymer switch and gaymers pay more for extra "performance"

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>>61096044
IBM model M SSK would be what you're looking for, but good luck finding one. Something like MX greens would be the next closest, but its not as tactile as a model M. The cooler master rapid fire or quick fire has greens and costs 70 bucks here in the us. Maybe its around that price in portugal

>>61096044
this with mx green if you want a heavier clicky switch
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/32285359058.html

this with gateron brown if you want a non-clicky tactile switch
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html

or the first one with clear or grey if you want a heavier non-clicky tactile switch

or something with gateron black if you want a heavier linear switch

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>They are people that like ABS caps and prefers Gaterons switches.
I mean you do you man. But don't try and mislead people. It comes of as histerish "Old stuff is better *sniff*" I know PBT vs ABS comes down to texture and durability. And Gaterons are just Chinese rip offs, no need to justify your purchase it all comes down to preference. no right or wrong just do you.

I just can't fathom why people would like ABS, even from a nostalgic perspective. That shine feels so cheap.

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>Maxkey is making SA Carbon
AHAHAHAHAH
Thank god SP sold their SA molds to someone with no moral compus. Cry about it all you want, but anything to make those stupid Jews to shiver is good in my book. Not only will the quality be the same, but it will be cheaper and ship faster. I get that copying a popular design is a scummy thing to do, but I don't give a shit.

>>61096986
I love reading all the pissy people on Reddit upset that the Chinese are """STEALING""" color schemes.

There's also some good stuff with the people who think the novelty/icon keys are something special when they're all clip-art icons you could get on any site with CC/open source artwork.

>>61097025
My favorite part is that when they first popped up people began making up excuses that these were inferior to SP keycaps. Then it came out they were using SP's old tooling and those complaints stoped. Now people say that SP SA keycaps are better since the molds are new and aren't as worn out as Maxkey SA.

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I just don't care about switches I could go back to rubber domes and not give a fuck. They only thing that matters to me is the layout and the size.

>>61097111
Okay then why are you here. You can get rubber domes in every layout. 40-120% keyboards and even 96 key layouts have rubber dome versions

>>61070648
Varmilo a decent brand?

>>61087843
Gateron apparently has shit QC and Greetech made some decent switches recently.

Is it possible to get a replacement case for the KUL ES-87, they offer a white/red/blue one but if it's similar to the stock case then the case shines/goes to shit kind of quickly.

Money isn't a concern, I love the keyboard but the stock case is killing me(I've replaced the caps of course as well.)

>>61097912
From what I've read yes.

Is azio a good brand?
Currently studying so my budget isn't pretty high.

>>61095804
CM needs to do a Topre KB again. I got spoiled by Topre and don't buy anything else anymore.

>>61098318
never ever. Topre realized how shit they are at making keyboards so in order to save their realforce brand they'll never make a third party keyboard ever again.

>>61087843
Sure Dude, a chinese knock-off is better than the German engineering company that invented the product. Those clear plastic cases will definitely last decades without fading or cracking. You'll be proud supporting a company that contributes nothing.

With Cherry switches you know what you're getting and they are proven over time. Go ahead and save a little money but it is far wiser spending that little bit more to protect your own investment and support a reputable company.

I guarantee Gateron will vary in quality over time and you'll deserve what you're stuck with in terms of poor product quality and reputation.

Why did you even want a mechanical keyboard to begin with? "Hey, I've got a keyboard made with junk shit parts from thieves that manufacture in toxic sweatshops in the asshole of the world. It is my hobby."

Why would you buy discount junk? Aren't you embarrassed knowing you bought garbage and it will sit there on your desk letting you and everyone else know how lame you are. It's like you're wearing Keds brand running shoes! Keds!

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>>61098710
>Cherry
>still manufactured in Germany
(cwl)

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>Budget
$100

>Location (continent at least)
Asia but could buy from US

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
60%-75%

>Backlight
Yes

>>61090537
and then how do i use the arrow keys? do i have to hold a modifier

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>>61070648
Best places to buy keyboards with crypto?

>>61098660
they never made NovaTouch. they just sold them switches and collaborated on cherrymx stems.

>>61099171
just use proper money like the rest of us

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Hey goyim. I'm finally jumping switch from my Logitech regular old keyboard. How's this?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2050

>>61099406
brown cherry mx are shit.

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>>61099406
>Brown Cherry MX

>>61099467
>>61099476
What should I be using? I don't want it to be ear shatteringly loud.

>>61099406
Great keyboard, but you should really try a switch tester before you pull the trigger.

how do i buy from taobao?

https://world.taobao.com/item/537653557670.htm#detail

i want this with white shell and brown switches (or whatever the equivalent of that is in gateron switches) but the site is in chinese and google translate doesn't work well with it

at the very least, which option should i select for what i want?

>>61100056
Just get it from candykeys, aliexpress, or even KBDfans. If you really want it from taobao you can use an agent. Basetao, taobaotrends, or even qtang on geekhack

>>61099743
Any recommended switch testers?

>>61100175
not him, but you can always walk into a big box store and try out the different keyboards they have. Even small places like staples carry basic brand mechs like razer or corsair. Microcenter would be better since some of their stores carry topre keyboards