/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

>>61040597
First for XDA Canvas delayed again.

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Hi

Are the keyboards made by Cherry themselves good? I need a replacement for my Rosewill keyboard and don't want anything flashy

>>61040682
Nice keeb bro, but don't you think it has too many keys?

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Went ahead and put the caps on my custom split board (minus the spacebars for which I'll need to bend a 3u costar stabilizer wire first), even though I haven't done any of the wiring yet. I just wanted to see what it looks like, and the answer was "pretty damn good" IMO

>>61040883
looking sweet, I'm expecting a lot of pictures once you're done.

How are you connecting the two halves?

>>61040597
I just bought a keyboard from China, it seems pretty cool, quite enjoying using it. The keyboard layout is American and I'm English, I can certainly live with it like this but I'd prefer a UK layout if it's not too expensive. Where do I purchase some different keycaps from? How do I know if what I'm getting is good? Also does anybody use wrist rests with their keyboard? The base is quite large so I think it might be necessary to stop me from developing RSI.

>>61040978
protip, stick with us layout, much easier to get keyboards and keycaps.

t. britbong

>>61041036
OK, I might well end up doing that. I feel like I might replace the keycaps on this keyboard anyway, don't like the look of them, I don't know how you describe this look but it's futuristic, techy I guess, and I'd rather have a minimalist or traditional kind of look.

>>61041068
Buy a varmilo ISO-UK keyboard from their EU distributor quickly before brexit happens

>>61041036
the UK layout is so much better though

>Budget
150 max, preferably under
>Location (continent at least)
Europe, east
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Layout
don't mind either
>Form factor
80/60
>Backlight
no
>Previous/current keyboards
Rosewill RK-9000V2

>>61041091
I'm not buying another keyboard, I just bought this chink one and it feels nice to me. Never tried a mech keyboard and I'm really enjoying it, I'm sure there are better ones out there but I don't want to spoil myself yet. I'll use this for a while then I may upgrade in future.

>>61041143
indeed, but not easy to get keycaps for 'em, and when you can, it often costs more to get the ISO kit.

>>61040977
Thanks, yeah, I've been taking plenty of pictures which I'll probably just dump in a month or so when I get a chance to work on it some more.

I was originally planning to connect the halves with a 9-pin serial cable, but there wasn't enough vertical clearance for the connector, so I went back to a TRRS connector like ergodox usually uses. Fortunately, the TRRS cable options are more varied, lower-profile, and better looking than serial cables, but the serial cable would have been easier to solder and offered more pins.

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>>61040597
Truly the best form

>>61041220
Can you tell me where I could get some just so I at least have an idea?

>>61040597
I seriously don't see the appeal of this layout compared to either a RS/TADA/etc 68 or a Magicforce/Varmilo 68

Does anyone here use a wrist rest? How do I shop for a good one?

>>61041369
Massdrop will give you a quick idea of how much it will cost

>>61041253
how are you handling it firmware-wise?

>>61041314
>>61040597
How do you live without an esc key?

>>61042055
There is no Esc! On the default layer that is

>>61040726
Get KBP or Leopold then.

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Any opinions on IKBC keyboards?

Reminder that integrated numpads are shit and useless.

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>>61042236
^

>>61042236
>>61042287
still butthurt that you got buttblasted?

>>61042340
?
I have not idea what you're talking about. I'm just spreading facts about keyboards.

>>61042350
suuureee

>>61042412
Do you have any opinions on mechanical keyboards or are you just going to post off-topic shit?

what are the cheapest mechanical keyboard right now

im currently using a qfr blue tenkeyless that i bought for like 60 dollars 4 years ago
>theyre all 100+ now

god damn esports

>>61042424
>post off-topic shit?
The irony here.

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>84 layout
>Detachable cable
>Gateron Switches
>60 usd
>POM keycaps
Wtf is the catch here?

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>>61042340
I wish someone would buttblast me

>>61042457
There are several $15 mechanical keyboards, but most are in the 30-40 dollar range

>>61042517
horrendous keychatter problems. There's a reason why that keyboard lets you change debounce times

>>61042551
How much girth can you handle?

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Complete newfag here.
I want to remove the casing on my qisan, but the cable is in the way. How do I remove it? I fear I will just break it if I just pull on it.

>>61042739
Break the cable and reattach later.

>>61042739
Cables just hold you back, remove it so you can be wireless.

>>61042764
>>61042778
Nice memes but I wonder how it was even assembled?
I guess I'll try to find an opening on the top but I don't have the time right now and you faggots aren't helping.

>>61042517
bezel

>>61042803
I was only half joking. What other option do you have? Do you care about the casing? You could probably find a way to break the casing and remove that without damaging the keyboard itself.

how are Max-keyboards keycaps? seems too cheap to be true

>>61042517
Supposedly it doesn't work in BIOS and shit because of USB fuckery to reach NKRO.

>>61043093
>>61042608
>>61042824
Whelp I bought it so I will see how it goes. Apparently it is bezel, but uses costar stabilizers so it is not much of a big deal for me.
The newer models (according to geekhack) don't use the realkey tech so it fixed the problem.

Wish me luck anon.

>>61043119
>The newer models (according to geekhack) don't use the realkey tech so it fixed the problem.
Fair enough, the only reports I saw of that problem were pretty old. I hope it's good anon.

>>61042948
They are extremely standard. Not thick, but ok keycaps. I would personally go with npkc t b h.

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https://youtu.be/YTkvr_EC2LA

Where can I get a keyboard like pic related?

I bought a Topre 87u 55g.

Honestly? It actually feels nice but louder than I expected.

>>61043421
Amazon

>>61042739
what keyboard is that anon?

>>61042113
Hmm looks nice
Anything cheaper

>>61043946
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

>>61043967
yeah the cherry g80 boards

>>61043997
Any cons to it?

>>61044031
Yeah 0 features. The old ones had the best double shot ABS keycaps ever made, but they got rid of them to bring the price down to 50 bucks.

>>61042227
Getting mine in a few days.

>>61044060
So its stock standard keyboard
Could I replace the keycaps? the Caps key looks weird

ikbc f108 or tada68?
don't care about the rgb lights, just overall quality

>>61044397
>tada68
>ikbcf108
>comparing full size vs 65%

>>61044397
tada68, because integrated numpads are shit.

>>61044441
what's the problem ? I can use whichever and don't have preference for either, just wanna buy the better board since I won't be getting a new one for a good 5 years.

>>61040597
Looks nice. I like the subdued colors. Very clean.

I have a Cherry MX-Board 3.0 with Red Switches.

>>61043764
Of course anon, now that you have bought it people will mention all the lubing and silencing mods you have to do to get the true authentic topre experience.

>>61042517
dumbest spacebar in the world

>>61043093
I have one and can confirm it does work in BIOS

>>61040597
KBParadise V80 or Filco Majestouch-2?
These are my options. I'm going to switch the keycaps almost asap.

>>61045330
V80

>>61044364
Yeah. It uses a standard layout so replacements aren't hard to find. The one nice thing about it is that since its so basic repairing it is extremely easy. You can even open the switches without having to desolder the keyboard

>>61045330
Filco is a classic that everyone swears their life on, and for whatever reason, I only see complaints about KBParadise keyboards (probably because of the bottom-mounted LEDs interfering with switches).

It honestly comes down to whether you want LEDs or not.

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>>61045363
Basically only benefit is that they cable is detachable and doesn't have a big branding name on the front. I think I like the Filco case more overall tho.
>>61045421
I don't want LEDs.
It comes down to the case design and the shade of black because the V80 I can get is the Vintage and I don't think that's all the way black.

>>61045421
>>61045330
Oops, I lied, the V60 has bottom-mounted LEDs, the V80 is fine.

>>61045451
The tai-hao keycaps are pretty meh tier, but they are better then the filco ones.

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>>61045451
If you want a removable cable for whatever reason, I understand, but the Filco has so much third-party support, you can get whatever case and cable you want for it. I think there are even bluetooth mods you can get for it too.

And don't waste money on shit keycaps, you'll be like the rest of us here wishing they didn't spend $40 on shit caps, and instead went right straight to something like EnjoyPBT for $100.

>>61045894
Okay I'll go with the Filco Ninja then.
Thanks for the heads up on the EnjoyPBTs, already eying some blanks but they are 50$ for 109 on aliexpress, are they fake?

>>61046007
no, blanks should be cheaper. You're paying for the printing on the higher priced ones.

>>61045894
I got my fake caps on Ali and they feel and look fine, why are they considered so poor?

How do people set up their numpad layer on a 60%?

>>61046622
the coating on them ends up fading off and makes them look like shit. The other problem would also be things like misaligned legends and small inconsistencies in the printing

>>61046662
How do you know if you're picking good caps from ali lets say? All I want are blanks and I know to look for PBTs.

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>>61046589
These are the ones I'm taking about. Look good?

>>61046684
look for keycaps made by gateron, npkc, or vortex if you want something cheap

>>61046684
>>61046737
>>61046622

EnjoyPBT in Cherry profile are some of the best you'll find.

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36740706957

>>61046737
just make sure they are cherry profile. most people prefer it over OEM.

>Order a Filco
>Discover the Varmilo

Well...shit.

>Budget 60 Pounds
>Location UK
>Preferred switch type - Black
>Layout ANSI
>Form factor full or TKL
>Backlight - Would be nice to have it
>Previous/current keyboards Laptop

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>>61047266
Cherry OEM keyboards like the g80

>>61047266
Most keyboards only weigh about 1 or 3 pounds, my m80.

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Is this thing usable as regular keyboard?

Really like the shape of keycaps.

>>61047655
it is, but that looks grimy as hell

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>>61047250
Should I cancel the Filco?
This will look so slick with blank caps.

>>61047701
why stop there. Why not get the bluetooth version of that keyboard

>>61047701
>>61047250
Another classic, Massdrop I think has special ones too.

Also comes with a shit ton of third-party support. Either keyboard will be perfect; I personally think the Varmilo is a little better.

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>>61047250
>>61047701

You should check out the Leopold too if you want to complicate things further.

>>61048004
This is fucked up.

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>>61048066
Welcome to your new Autism, it only gets worse from here.

Will https://www.aliexpress.com/item/White-Black-Gray-Orange-Green-Yellow-Blank-Thick-PBT-OEM-Profile-62-Key-ISO-61-ANSI/32727885210.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.279.6YmHPv
fit on a pok3r?

>>61048413
yes. now kys

>>61048004
This is good, I have it.

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>>61048066
Why not go for a Ducky? Or is the RGB lighting to much? They do make a version without any back lights for 60 bucks less

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>>61048743
I don't regret it

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>>61048787
Same

>>61040597
Buy a KBD75.

>>61042055
i just haven't gotten the beige esc key yet

~ = esc
Shift + ~ = ~
fn + ~ = `

>>61048787
>>61048743
looking to buy this one:

http://www.ncix.com/detail/ducky-one-non-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-66-140769.htm?promoid=1601

where do you get those coloured keycaps?

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>>61051173
Those are the stock Ducky keycaps for the dye-sub version. They do sell them separately for 80 bucks and also come in white and grey

>>61051239
thanks m8.

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Did I do good? Or did I just make a big mistake

>>61051428
I wish you'd memed it harder. 4/10 see me after class

>>61040597
>>Learn to touch type:
>http://www.keybr.com/

I got Your all time top speed is better than of 98.01% of other people.

on membrane keyboard . That makes people very slow or my membrane>mechanical

really makes u think

>budget
$250
>location
US
>prefered switch type
Cherry Blue or similar, prefer heavy resistance and clicking doesn't bother me
>layout
ANSI
>form factor
75% (84 key specifically)
>backlight
Not necessary, but not against it
>current keyboard
Rosewill RK-9000v2 with Cherry Blue

>>61052207
Cherry green pkck 235$

>>61041314
what keys are these? amazing

>>61042517
>>61042608

i didn't realize it was a widespready issue. i bought a choc mini a few years back and within 3 months it developed chattering on multiple keys.

i'm actually surprised how many enthusiasts seem to just brush off chattering in other boards (kbp v60 and 80 boards stand out). it absolutely fucks up touch typing and is pretty shitty when you're paying at least 5x more than your typical cheap rubber dome.

>>61051796
It should be obvious that most people are just shit at typing, regardless of what they use.

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>buy $140 worth of plastics with extra recolored keys
>came buckets when they arrived
>place on my memeforce
>this doesn't feel right....
>a week later somehow ended up buying a 250$ Kb with 62g ergos
>now have to buy a 35$ alt set for said custom keycaps cause of 1.75 shift and a bunch of other 1u modifiers

Wtf guys?!?! It happened all so fast I didn't have time to react...

>>61052944
They are custom set

>>61053098
the chinks now have $100 programmable 96 key aluminum keyboards with RGB under glow, unless you choose to get it with zealios or something. I thought my model M was end game, but I feel for the mod-m switch meme

>>61042517
NOO detachable cable
if you got a cherry version it's fine. I oown two the noppoo switch one that im typing this from that haas horriblee keychater problems that just never fucking sstop youo always have to fix whaat you're typing i mean look at this this is totally unedited and its just fucking up aal l fucking daay


then the cherry one has no problems what so ever. Buy the Drevo Gramr for $40. The drevo excalibur hasa aluminum base and removable cables and more standard key lay out

>>61051796
i didn't notice any real improvement after switching either (110-120 wpm). it's pretty much a placebo for me. i do like keycaps though.

>>61053128
This shit is a slippery slope. Worst than fucking Gundam

>>61053128
Oh shit just hit me I also have/want to get a fucking pexon cable fuuuuuuuuug

>>61053232
>pexon
careful you'll summon him

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>>61053238
did somebody say....

PEXON???

cheapest keyboard /g/ would recommend?

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I ordered a set of PBT keycaps and got a totally BLANK set with no legends. How difficult would it be to learn to use the keyboard without any legends? How long would it take?

>>61054071
James Donkey with Gateron Browns.

>>61054106
Do you even look at your keyboard when you type? It shouldn't take you any time at all... You might struggle with some of the symbols at first if you don't use them often -- maybe.

>>61054169
>Do you even look at your keyboard when you type?
Yeah, sometimes because I don't touch-type and sometimes look down for some symbol.

> It shouldn't take you any time at all... You might struggle with some of the symbols at first if you don't use them often -- maybe.
any suggestions on how to learn this properly and easily?

anyway, returning this is not a good option since I bought it from China. the seller made a mistake. I'm basically $60 in the hole if I don't use this set.

>>61054190
>any suggestions on how to learn this properly and easily?
Maybe this:
http://www.keybr.com/
Also, get used to not looking at your keyboard at all and just watch your screen. Even if you mess up, don't look down, just press backspace and try again. It'll get easier the more you do it.
I promise you'll get used to it if you put in the time and don't cheat (look down).

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>>61054217
Thanks anon! I'll give it a try.

Here's the set I got.. sorry about the potato webcam pic.

When buying from China, sometimes you lose and sometimes you don't lose much.

Why is everybody fellating themselves over the K-Type?

Is it just a meme or what?

>>61047701
Woke up and canceled the Filco, ordering a black on black Varmilo, no LEDs with Bluetooth.

Hope I didn't fuck this up.

>>61054591
It's hype created from Input Club delaying the thing for a full year.

It's just an overpriced TKL with crap keycaps. The aluminum case and USB type-C connectors are kinda neat, but there are far better options out there. I guess it's not a bad keyboard though.

>>61042287
what kb

>>61054988
But muh topre feel mx switches

>>61055049
TADA68

>>61048787
May I ask what switches you got?

What's the deal with massdrops and does it work for Europe?

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I want some Cherry profile caps and I'm looking at the EnjoyPBT dual legend. What would ull choose of these

I almost checked out with the green cyrillic and then went back to think about japanese

>>61055671
Green russian

>>61040597
My fingers hurt because of mechanical keyboard
I'm thinking to go back to normal
Or did I just buy a bad one?

>>61042551
kek

>>61055879
What switches did you get? Not everyone can handle the tougher stuff.

>>61055958
blue
it's fine but after a whole day typing fingers hurt a bit

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>>61042227
I got the aluminum 108 on their first massdrop run. It feels real nice with o-rings, but I thought it came defective. Turns out, they didn't properly isolate the board from the very much conductive case, which shorted the board and caused light issues. Fixed it by opening it up and sticking a few sheets of paper between PCB and case, and now it works flawlessly.

Caps are great; no issues there. I can do without the gimmick features like the timer, but the backlight options are neat and don't require any software to work. Overall I'm happy, though a little extra thought would have saved some hassle on my end.

Does 155$ Varmilo VA87M, no Leds ,cherry browns with included shipping sound good for Europe or?

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Why people hate Matias keyboards?

>>61056581
No-one hates them, most people just don't want to deal with alps stem keycaps only

>>61056062
That's weird my fingers never gets tired anymore after switching to mech. Maybe something to do with hand position over the kb? Crack yer knuckles feels good after typing for a whle

Is a BTC board at all valuable? Spotted one on craigslist that looks kinda like a model M for cheap

>>61058350
They were valuable 20 years ago. Maybe when topres become more popular they'll go up in value, but I wouldn't buy an old rubber dome keyboard

>>61056975
But they come with key-caps
I hope you do not change your keycaps,that would be quite autistic.

>>61040597
>>Learn to touch type:
>http://www.keybr.com/
I tried this and keeping my fingers in a line on the home row while typing caused incredible pain in my hands within minutes, am I fucked?

>>61058917
Good thing Matias now makes PBT keycaps. I can't stand the permenant grime and shine that those thin stock ABS keycaps get after a few months of use.

>>61041526
>>61040978
>wrist rests
I'm wondering about this, too. My first mech is in the mail and it's making me think about posture and strain and shit.

Any recommended wrist rests out there?

>>61059136
well desu fuck home row, just type the way you usually do but dont look at your kb. you're better off doing what you normally do since you already have the muscle memory for it as opposed to starting from scratch. since the point of touch typing is just that muscle memory

>>61059346
Seriously considering this:
https://www.amazon.com/Litop-Keyboard-Wrist-Yellow-Keyboards/dp/B00VFS2KP4

>>61059392
> not getting 2 breads

>>61041526
>>61059346
i use a folded underwear

>>61059373
That's basically what I do already, a sort of hunt and peck without the hunt part.

>>61059510
i guess the only problem with this is its hard to switch kbs

If I buy an ISO-DE keycap set, will it work on an ANSI layout keyboard if I leave the differently sized keys (like enter for example)? Or will it leave some weird empty spaces?
What I would like to change is the number row and the punctuation keys as they don't really relate well to the German layout.

>>61059639
It might work, if the keys are the same profile but it will look like shit. You wont be able to replace the (/) key and probably some others as well.

>>61059196
Only for their 60%? I can't find a standard PBT set on their site.

>>61056383
Should I go for it for this price?

>Budget
Around $100
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue/Black
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
None
>Previous/current keyboards
Generic laptop keyboard

>>61060359
that's more expensive then where I live, but I reside in a first world country

>>61060499
Anne pro, or RK61

>>61054106
Just get an engraver and some whiteout. Carefully engrave the symbols you need to remember, put whiteout in the engravings and wipe the extra.

>>61060524
Where to find a wired Anne Pro?

>>61060615
It comes with a cable.

>>61060502
Well, shipping is free. It's more like I can only find it for that price.

>>61060583
that would look like shit anon.

I've been actually looking at laser engraving but that would cost $30-40 + shipping which isn't far off from just buying a new set.

I'm either gonna have to learn how to touch-type and memorize all the symbols or just buy another set.

>>61060715
For that price you can get the Bluetooth version
http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/shop-mechanical-keyboard-by-sw/varmilo-vb87m-bluetooth-mechan/lid=46029213

>>61060787
just use a white sharpie and draw the legends you have problems finding or if the seller did make a mistake contact them and ask them to send you a replacement.

>>61040597
Why should I get a mechanical keyboard? Are they actually that much better than rubber dome?

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>>61060906
Its all about muh feeeeeeeeels.That's why reddit and tumblr love them so much.

Oh crap I just realized the keyboard I'm type on doesn't have a seperate delete and backspace key

>>61060961
60% will do that to ya

>>61060938
nice colors but profile looks like shit. should have gone with DSA.

>>61060971
Its an older apple keyboard. Should have known.

Just bought a POK3R with ISO keyset, what do you guys think? I'm probably going to buy some Galaxy C Keycaps

>>61060972
>DSA
Maybe he wants to actually use his keyboard. I know its so weird, but normies... am I right?

>>61041709
Super late response, but I have a teensy 3.0 for one side and an I/O expander for the other. I plan on trying to adapt some existing ergodox firmware (which is basically the same setup but with a teensy 2.0). I think writing my own firmware wouldn't be much of a stretch for me, either, but I imagine ergodox will be an easy adaptation

>>61060999
>shit taste
you've never used a DSA keyboard anon.

>>61061017
Unfortunately I have. I thought the uniform profile would be nice like those chiclet keyboards, but its too tall and it feels like shit to type on due to the curvature of the keycaps. Maybe g20 will be better, but I want some more color options first.

>>61042055
>live without an esc key
i use xcape to bind "ctrl with no chord" to esc
since i have ctrl on capslock this puts 2 major keys in easy reach

>>61060906
for me rubber domes tire out my handas really fast, specifically the muscle/tendons at the back of my hand. never had the problem again after switching to mechanical

>>61061060
G20 has no indentations and contours for fingertips to fall into so it's not a good option. DSA is perfect if you don't use keyboard feet. Keyboard feet are for retards anyway and no one with brain should use it.

>>61061149
>contours for fingertips to fall into
That's exactly what makes DSA terrible to use.

>>61061197
shithead, the keys in >>61060938 also have them.

>>61061208
Angles are too steep for my taste. There's a reason why most people don't use them and prefer shorter profile keycaps

>>61061302
huh? it has shallower angles than cherry/OEM,
you sound retarded and clueless. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with a retard. so long.

>>61060827
Thanks
Too bad I can't really pay the guy.
>Things don't appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later.

>>61042287
fuck u kys

>>61061483
If you can understand chinese buy it from his website. Vendio is his proxy service, but you need chinese paypal as the normal one doesn't work

>Budget
~$120
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Mx red or something quiet
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
Doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer blackwidow, way too loud and plastic

>>61061517
You mean Taobao?

>>61060524
Where can you find then? CC, ncix, and Newegg are all trash.

>>61040597
I need suggestions, I have an old Saitek Eclipse II (Membrane) and was wondering which mechanical keyboard/switches would be most like it. I've had this trooper for almost six years now, and it's about time to put the old boy out to pasture.

>>61042287
What numpad is this?

>>61061729
Aliexpress and banggood

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>50 usd
>legit cherry mx switches
>no meme lighting
what is the catch?

>>61061964
An ugly-ass logo

>>61061964
too overpriced. Get a TGS instead if you want genuine cherry switches

>>61062087
tgs?

>>61062141
I think he either means a TVS which is a full size keyboard with cherry mx switches for 30 bucks, or the TG3 which is a 75% keyboard with cherry mx switches for 30 bucks. The TG3 with a trackpad costs an extra $6, and the backlight versions cost an extra 30 bucks. They also use a special keycap stem and protective membrane to seel the keyboard and make it water proof, but they are doubleshot

>>61061964
>>legit cherry mx switches
... as if that's a good thing.

>>61042340
details please

>>61062326
What do you like?

>>61062308
where do you even buy those?

>>61062384
even clones are better than Cherry. Cherry gave up long time go on making quality switches.

>>61062440
Cherry is still beats kalih, outemu, etc. The only ones they can't beat are gaterons, but the blues are still better on cherry then the gaterons atm.

>>61062460
Geterons are legit? Should I get browns gaterons over cherry?

>>61062547
>browns
they're brown because they're shit. never use browns by anyone for anything.

where the fuck do newfags always come up with the browns meme??? please do tell me... how the fuck did you decide on that shit switch? who memed you into it?

>>61062547
very legit. Gateron browns are way better then cherry mx. Cherry mx browns are supposed to be tactile, but there is like only a 20% bump (when the switch pushes you back), for gateron browns they are like a 50% push back. There is a reason why cherry mx browns aka "scratcher reds"

>>61062567
Cause it is all opinion you dumbass. Some people like their switches pushing back against you and others like it going straight down and up.

>>61062567
Okay.
Blues sound and feel the best to me but are too loud, blacks are too heavy and reds are boring thus I'm thinking browns.
I have not tested the other switches like Greens and Clears.

>>61062567
People too afraid of blues and don't want the linear red/blacks so they settle for a shitty middleground.

>>61062577
I would like more of a bump to the browns. I might go with gates, sounds good actually.

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>>61040597
rate

>>61062655
generic
>>61062308
>poo in the loo keyboard
LOL, where can I get one of those?

>>61062595
>thus I'm thinking browns.
that;s the worst possible switch. never use compromised tech for anything because it sucks at everything. never use brown switches.

>>61062602
yeah, this middle ground thinking is truly the cancer. society would function a lot better if we stooped using this kind of thinking.

>>61062680
So, I'm suppose to go with Blues?

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>>61062680
except gaterons are literally cherry mx blues without the sound. Cherry mx browns are shit and probably where you are getting your opinion from.

>>61062716
yeah honestly gateron browns are on a whole another level.
>>61062705
They are probably talking about the cherry mx versions anon

>>61062742
Then Gateron Browns? I'm confused now.

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>>61062677
TG3 is american, and honestly for that low of a price its not bad. 30 bucks for a spill proof 75% keyboard. The downside is that the doubleshot keycaps are ABS

>>61062770
matter of preference honestly. Go to an electronics store and try them out.


Blues are loud, but if you like the idea of hearing a typewriter while you type then it is not so bad. They are the most popular and Cherry makes the best version. They have tactile bumps that press against you.


Browns are, in theory, supposed to be blues without the sounds. They are supposed to be for a working environment where the noise is a problem. These keys, like blues, push back against you so you feel pressure against your fingers. Gaterons make the best versions.


Blacks are for heavy hands and they go straight up and down. No tactile bump. Oldest kind of switches. Some people like them and it is usually old timers where they prefer that the keys have to pushed in all the way to register a press. Gaterons make the best version.


Reds are light and they are mostly for gaymers where a slight keypress will register a keypress. Gaterons make the best version.

Basically
Gaterons > Cherry> everything else> Zorro Besides blues of course. Problem with Gateron blues is that it is 55g instead of the standard 50g and to press down on and the difference is noticeable. At that point it kinda gets heavy handed.
Zorros are terrible

>Budget
~$200
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue, want to try green or black
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
FULL or 60% or >>61048110
>Backlight
Doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
>corsair k70
Fucking fell for the memes

I do want my build my own board with either gateron or outemu or even alps if I could find them. Contemplating buying either the RK-9000v2 or Pro L.

>>61062705
>So, I'm suppose to go with Blues?
Or reds. But preferably blues.

>>61062876
Premium is Leopold. Ducky One is good as well, but their quality is going down lately and their prices are going up. Had a Ducky Shine 4 and I feel the difference.

You can honestly get a corsair strafe and it would sitll be good with that kind of money.

>>61062655
9/10. if it used mech switches, it'd be 10/10. that's the perfect keyboard shape and perfect keycap profile.

>>61062896
Reds are not that great for actual productive work. Only really good for gaming.

>>61062655
Are those actually keycaps or not?

>>61062876
FC660m or FC980m.

>>61062956
you obviously don't understand the /g/'s average poster.

>>61063028
I would like to change that....
>>61062876

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Anyone know how to change the stabiliser of a keyboard? My old ducky shine's stabiliser broke....

>>61062874
Gaterons for browns, Cherrys for blues. Easy enough.
Good thing I'll have both sooner then later. Not that I have plenty of choice when it comes to the gaterons. I'm looking 2 days for a Varmilo, guess that's off the table.

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This was $30 shipped from Alibaba with fake MX Cherry Browns, tell me how much I fucked up.

>>61063393
for $30? if it functions it was probably worth it

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>>61063481
I feel no difference compared to my 10 year old Coolermaster Cumstorm Rapid which are Cherry MX Browns. The keys have faded, I could replace the keycaps but this new keyboard cost less than the cheapest keycaps. Plus it has a light.

It takes a little getting used to however.

>>61063393
I have one, and it's actually not bad. Just enjoy the non-standard key layout bullshit.

>>61063521
Did it install some sort of chink malware when you plugged it in like everything from Alibaba?

>>61063539
It installed all of them. When ever I try to log into my computer I have to pledge alligence to the communist party and denounce my evil capitalistic roots.

>>61062973
No that is an imac keyboard. /Mkg/ fell for the meme.

>>61063393
Link to where you bought it?

>>61059907

Yeah I am thinking that the \ key will really be the one that wil stick out like a sore thumb. The others should work though, if I simply get the correct cap profile, right?

>>61055351
It's pretty expensive once you add on shipping and customs charges - at least to the UK. Plus the wait time on orders can run into 5/6 weeks fairly easily. Look for aseller in the EU or order direct from Aliexpress or some other Chinese supplier

>>61063076
Just desolder every switch on the keyboard so you can remove the plate to replace it.

>>61048110
srsly, i want to live of this kind of meme
where to buy such a nice keyboard

Whats with the GMK meme? Almost $200 for doubleshot ABS?

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Just sniped this bitch off ebay

What ull think

>>61066322
Expect key chatter problems

>>61066427
I can resolder switches if I have to

>>61045330

I really like my Filco. I prefer it over my Model-M.

I just bought a Logitech G413. Should I now kys?

>>61066508
Its a firmware problem, now there is a new firmware that supposedly fixes the problem, but who knows how effective it is.

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>>61064654
>just
That sarcasm is impeccable.

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>>61066877
> Romer-G switches

You fucked up. I rather use shitty Razer switches than the switch specifically designed only for MAXIMUM LED COVERAGE FOR PRO GAMERZ.

>>61065958
The stores that retail them are gouging. They are closer to 100 a set from group buys. They use the cherrys old doubleshot molds.

are cherry blacks really scratchy?

>>61067612
yes, even with the new molds gaterons are still smoother

>>61067375
Having good LED coverage is actually a good thing. Thing is, Logitech jumped into the GAMERZ bandwagon not realizing that they need none of those... Their switches are reliable and for newbies, not really distinguishable for Cherry MX Browns. They would have gotten more sales if not for the GAMERZ bandwagon.

>>61051556
>>61051428

Wait, I want to build a hand-wired 63 key(iso) keyboard. Would that plate+case+stabiliser be a good starting point ? I plan on using a cheapo 3$ contoller. Is this seller a meme or what ? Prices seems ok to me.

>>61068152
They're absolute fucking trash, especially considering that you're stuck with the shitty ABS keycaps that they come with.

And there's aboslutely no way to mod them like Topres, and no one will make keycaps for Romer-Gs because no autists use the switch. Only stupid cowadooty kiddies who haven't done any research buy these keyboards.

>Budget
About 100$
>Location (continent at least)
Poland
>Preferred switch type
MX Cherry Red
>Layout
ANSI, preferably with play/next song etc buttons
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Just not some flashy ones
>Previous/current keyboards
Bought my first mechanical keyboard today (without making a lot of research honestly...), a Steelseries 6g v2, and im really disappointed because it just doesnt feel like an upgrade from my Microsoft Sidewinder x4 which I had for past 3 years and its still in perfect condition.

Are Steelseries bad overall or maybe its just me wanting too much?

>>61068152
>Their switches are reliable

Do you not understand what having two redundant contacts in a momentary switch will actually lead to?

They'll go out of sync from wear and chatter the switch long before either of them actually fails mechanically. And you know they don't have adequate anti-chatter delay to deal with this because it would mean multi-frame input lag.

There's a reason this design is only used effectively in latching switches.

>>61040597
Stop spending so much money on this shit

Literally go to logical increshits and buy the best thing in your price range in the mech keyboard guide.

>>61068461
>Steelseries 6g v2

Gross. Also worst Enter key.

It has MX gravel switches. If you have to go linear get something with Gateron switches.

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I need help /mkg/. I've looked at the buyer's template but I need something different.

I have an imouto and she plays piano. She told me once she'd like a mech keyboard so she can type better and her b-day is coming up so I'd like to buy her one.

I'm willing to spend no more than $300 (US) for a keyboard whose typing MOST CLOSELY resembles playing on a piano. Something that's soft and non-clicky.

What would you recommend in such an unusual case?

What's the appeal of these fuckdisgusting Rama cases? 1.5 inches tall and 1 inch of bezel fucking disgusting

>>61068812
Get something with Gateron Blacks and PBT keycaps. Here's a random keyboard that might work. You could go even heavier with Cherry Grays, but those are almost impossible to find unless you go DIY.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1683

>>61068946
Thanks! Are there any better switches that might resemble piano keys?

>>61042287
I wonder when you will come to your senses and remove that nappy, disgusting towel from your desk.

>>61056975
protip: the word is "nobody"

>>61068812
but typing is entirely different from piano, like its a cute idea but doesnt make much sense

scratchyness, blacks vs browns?
and would you pick blues for gayman?

I can't understand why 10-keyless boards are so fucking popular.

>>61069189
because only accountants use numpads.

>>61069215
I use my numpad literally all the time for programming, dwarf fortress, and EVE Online as well as excel spreadsheets.

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>>61069090
If you really want a piano feel, you're gonna have to go extra heavy, but I think anything that's a linear switch near 60g will be fine. Gateron are better than Cherry, but usually Cherry is what you'll find.

Here's the Tada68 that I recommend to everyone that has Gateron Black.

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils?variant=34710238861

>>61069236
>moving your fingers off a home row to type in numbers
oh your poor bastard. learn how to type.

>>61069236
EVE Online is basically accounting in space.

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>>61069189
Because numpad on the left side is superior.

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>>61069263
I type slowly and have never really gotten faster.

>>61069308
well, now you know why. get rid of these silly habits and you'll improve and become a man.

>>61069333
I don't have 90 useful words to type a minute. I want to type less and say more.

>>61069384
>I want to type less and say more.
that's a pretty banal statement and opposite from wisdom but even if that was your goal, if you typed faster, you'd have more time to think.
typing slow and wasting life away correcting mistakes is stupid. there's just no pros in typing slow... only cons.

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>>61040597
I've found one of these https://shop.daskeyboard.com/products/das-keyboard-professional-model-s for $84
Is it worth it?

>>61069423
Learning how to touch type would mean devaluing having a priority/urgency system for decision making. Striving for excellence in all things is admirable perfection but if I'm using my lazy fatass time to learn to type I can't justify not using that time on something more important than learning to type. I've never been bottlenecked by my typing speed.

>>61043997
>>61044060
>Cherry G80
>$50

Where the fuck? I only see them in the $80-100 range.

>>61069459
Das is shit, it used to be one of the best options back in like 2010, but now they just make embarrassing shit.

That case will pick up EVERYTHING and get ridiculously dirty. It's not a bad keyboard though if you can stomach the case and get new caps.

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I got my mechanical keyboard in the mail around a month ago and it's still sitting in the box. Why can't I motivate myself to hook it up? I'm currently typing on some weird Logitech keyboard that was all BestBuy had when I needed a keyboard ASAP a couple years ago.

>>61069520
Is it worth it for the price? It has Cherry Blues and it has a volume wheel unlike the one I linked

>>61069662
Sure, if you're gonna switch the caps, also I think the one with the wheel doesn't have the stupid piano-finish case.

>>61068275
Hating omron switches is so reddit tier these days... Jeez

>>61060906
my laptop keyboard never really worked properly, so I figured "might as well jump down the rabbit hole" and here I am now with a Varmilo, a Royal Kludge (I liked the name and the price was right, if you grab one then remember to flip the spacebar), and a couple of sets of keycaps

>>61061964
>legit cherry mx switches
>no meme lighting
no lighting and no gaterons is the catch, anon

>>61042055
how do you live without a windowing system?

>>61069808
There's a reason why Omron's only keyboard switch is gamer shit, anon.

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>>61069808
If you want to be stuck with shitty ABS keycaps, that's your problem. Also two separate contacts just brings about a whole new set of problems.

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>>61044633
on the modern choc mini/plum84 layout with 1.25u bottom row modifiers it's fucking based you little shit. 6.25-7u is excessive. a keyboard should have at least 1-2 keys besides the spacebar within short (= fast and ergonomic) reach of your thumbs. mechanical keyboard manufacturers are really behind the times on this one. there are some customs like pic related tho

>>61069894
>no gaterons
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T94457
>no lighting
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-white-LED-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-gaterom-mx-brown-blue-red-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap/32767632458.html

>>61069894
>>61070036
lol nvm i thought you replied to >>61042517

>>61069726
What's wrong with the caps it has?
I give 0 fucks about aesthetics btw. All for functionality

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>>61070098
keycaps affect the typing feel (and sound) a lot, and pbt keycaps won't wear out any time soon. you can get pretty damn decent thick pbt keycaps for around $30-40. if you don't want to spend more money, i would recommend going for a cheaper keyboard so you can fit solid keycaps into your budget.

>>61070130
>That wear on caps lock.
Doesn't surprise me since that left shift is so tiny. I thought ISO was supposed to be better.

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>>61070098
Keycaps are just as important as your switches. If you're stuck with shitty ABS caps in OEM, you're gonna be missing out on PBT caps in Cherry profile that feel a hundred times better. Most people spend a shit ton of money for something like GMK caps not just because they look good, but because they make it a much better experience.

And when it comes to any gamer1337 keyboard, you're dealing with the worst of the worst when it comes to keycaps.

>>61068812
Are they weighted keys? I use MX Greens, but those are clicky.

>>61069263
Or just buy a full keyboard instead of being a hipster.

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Does the slider not wear down where it's in contact with the leaf? How long would it take for a tactile switch to start becoming less pronounced?

>>61069495
>I can't justify not using that time on something more important than learning to type
like arguing about touch typing on 4chan

>>61070098
Thin, weak, garbage ABS. The spacebar on mine literally snapped in half because they're so low quality.

>>61070215
do greens feel less mushy than blues, in your experience?

because i just bought a switch tester to test them out with the intention of getting a keyboard with greens on it, and the tactile bump/click on a green feels like SHIT compared to the blue on the tester.

Does one need a Bluetooth option? The price goes up by $17.

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>>61040597
>Budget
$120 or less. Willing to go over if its worth it

>Location
South East US

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Reds or Blues

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Tenkeyless or Full

>Backlight
Preferred

>Previous/current keyboards
Just shitty membrane ones for my entire life

>>61070481
They're stiffer in my opinion, but I'm not the best judge of these things. I just know that I enjoy a heavy keypress.

That said, I need to reduce the clack and probably should've just settled for the tactile bump.

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