/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

First for Gateron linears

how do I get the FN+Z music player shortcut to work on the magicforce? At the moment all I get is notepad trying to open some .dll file

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>>61020635

Looking for new keycaps and some custom ones.

Any suggestions?

Why are 99% of mechanical keyboards such shit? Complete and total garbage. Overpriced, shitty plastics. WAY over priced metal cases. Shit tier pcb and microcontrollers, and all these knock off cherry switches just took a shitty switch design from the 70s and made it worse.

Then you have hall effect sensors that add absolutely fucking nothing.

Buggy software from the big retailers. Half-functioning firmware from the smaller OEMs.

It's fucking sad when you can grab a Microsoft sculpt ergo keyboard and have a better typing experience than nearly every mechanical keyboard on the market.

Don't stop ricing, kids. Large swaths of Koreans and Chinese economies need you overpaying for your cheap plastic toys.

>>61020744
back to csg you poor faggot

>>61020692
check massdrop and wait 2years for your epic keycaps [or u know,buy directly from ppl that make them]
Cheap tier Dolche pbt aliexpress 104k 25$
Good tier mechanical keyboards dye sub pbt 50$
Very good tier Signature dildo miami/carbon
G-G-God tier Pure gold keycaps with Vantablack layer with diamond escape key

>>61020661
sissy fingers

>>61020975
You can't handle my 150g super blacks

is getting a corsair Z70 over a Ducky Shine 6 simply for the RGB customization depth short sighted?

>I have no plans on using custom keycaps

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What does my kibodo say about me?

>>61021156
The Ducky Shine has better stock keycaps and doesn't look like tryhard gaymer shit.

>>61020975
If 55g is gay, stick a dick in my mouth and call me Sally because I ain't gonna stop.

>>61021189
Using SA says you care more about looks than feel, using an esc key that's the wrong row says you care more about having the right legends than looking good and putting a shitty filter over the photo says you're an instagram hipster.

>>61021189
Looks rather small is it?
Possibly cause there is no numpad.

>>61020635
I thought that keyset didn't have the 1.75 shift? that damn shift key limits me on keysets a lot for my choc mini. probably going to get a 60% because on most don't need special sized keys.

>>61022063
EnjoyPBT always has a short shift, 1800 keys and a winkeyless bottom row as far as I can tell

>>61021189
meta key should just say "meme", infact, where can I get a nice key like that?

>>61020744
stay pleb

>>61020744
I have a coworker who genuinely prefers the Apple scissor-switch keyboard even though I let him type on my TADA68.
We still talk and play [spoiler]Mario Kart on Nintendo Switch[/spoiler] together every other day.
Which is just a long way to say this: Why are you so angry?

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>>61022162
I am angry because you propagate an entire industry made up of bullshit and elitism just so you can spend 200 dollars on placebo on a tiny keyboard that has worse ergonomics than a 50 dollar keyboard.

Bow to your new god.

>>61022440
>I get triggered by people spending their money
Better not go to the headphone general then. I doubt your heart can take it.

>>61022440
if you want to fall for the ergonomic meme there are ergonomically sculpted and split mechanical keyboards too

Are mechanical keyboards the original fidget spinners? They don't seem to be good for much more than that. At least the clicky ones. Literally no functional purpose to having a keyboard click that fucking loudly.

Are mechanical watches the original fidget spinners? They don't seem to be good for much more than that. At least the ticky ones. Literally no functional purpose to having a watch tick that fucking loudly.

>>61022607
No. Nothing for your fingers to manipulate.

>>61022607
No anon, mechanical watches were used for keeping time.

>>61021824
The Esc key is the same row

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>>61022921
This. Back in the day every office had a professional typist who would type at a constant rate of 120 WPM (120 WPM was A LOT back then). The professional clockists then synced up the clocks to the typing. We didn't have all the fancy tech like microcontrollers and calculators and hammers back then, so a minute had 120 seconds, so there was far more time to get stuff done.

But that was already three years ago, you kids with your newfangled anvils and fidget spinners and "numbers" wouldn't remember those old days.

>>61022949
It's clearly taller than the numrow.

>>61023105
it's just the color/perspective

anyone here owns a tada, is it good and do you recommend it as a first mech board for a new fag.
I don't want to pay more than a 100$

>>61023291
You can always pick up a chinkboard for around $50 if you want to try a mechanical keyboard. Some common names are Velocifire, Magicforce, James Donkey, etc.

>>61023291
yes it's god tier

So what's up with pexon nowadays? Are they still riddled with delays or did they get their shot together?

Is the Plum87 any good? I wanna get Gateron Browns.

>>61024517
ye it should be really solid

this is the same keyboard except for the switches and keycaps:
https://www.keychatter.com/2015/03/12/review-royal-kludge-rc930-87-rgb/

I've been using MX Blacks for the past 4 years, would going to browns be too light? Or would the tactile bump be annoying when double tapping?

Mostly use it for overwatch/csgo/dota2.

>>61024995
You want MX Clears then. Browns are lighter, like Reds.
If you're so used to Blacks then mayyyyybe the dirty scratchy feeling of Browns (and to a lesser extent Clears) might infuriate you. The tactile bump itself isn't annoying at all.
I've got a switch tester and after mashing Blacks - Clears feel comfy, while Browns are meh.

>>61024995
Double tapping on Cherry brown is the best. With subtle tactile it wouldn't annoy you. But still much lighter than black.

>>61020635
Why is the \ key bigger than the rest? Always wondered that. I don't like it. I think it's one of the reasons I like the Mac keyboard and hhkb as well.

>>61022440
I actually feel the same way about car modding. All I need is a simple car to drive from point A to point B. But who cares if I think it's dumb, it's their passion. Same thing here.

>>61025292
Because ISO is better in that one regard.

>>61025639
But the left shift key is too small

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does anybody know offhand if the mouse sensitivity from using Fn+NumLock + numpad can be increased via the board or would that be an operating system change

>>61022440
>this
>ergonomic
Get an ergodox or kinesis advantage, then you can talk about ergonomic.

>>61025811
That's why you build it yourself and use ISO enter but ANSI shift

>>61025840
It would have to be a software change

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sound-dampening-brackets?mode=guest_open
>Plate mount compatible
Zeal BTFO
Get rekt canacuck

Are Topres a good upgrade from cherry blues? IDK if a realforce 87u is worth $300

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So my IBM model M won't work with my new laptop using pic related, recommend me a nice typing mechanical with USB pls.

>>61024326
anyone? :(

>>61026017
thanks, looking at xset and xinput but i should probably just use my mouse lol.

>>61026100
I've got my model M working to my Lenovo. Works fine but I have to un-plug/re-plug every so often when booting up I've noticed. Give it another go as long as it's not USB3.0 I think all of the pins are more or less just remapped.

>>61026055
Completely different but I do like the feel of topre way more than blues. Just get a fc660c, Realforce are ugly.

>>61026230
>as long as it's not USB3.0
Yeah, it is 3.0.
That's all my laptop has.

>>61026100
if you wanna stick with buckling spring switches Unicomp is still going strong.

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/UKBD

>>61026100
PS/2 isn't hot swappable so you need an active adapter like the monoprice one for 5 bucks if you want it to work. Otherwise you have to turn of your laptop, plug the keyboard in, then turn it back on everytime you want to plug it back in. Or you can get a USB model M for 80 bucks

>>61020635
I will be working from home and will be typing a lot. What will be the best solution for me?

>>61026477
Suicide

>>61026491
Noice. But seriously, recommend me keyboards.

>>61025252
>>61025232

Hmm, I've used reds before and couldn't stand how light they were. Considering browns are the same just with the tactile bump (so I assume you have to press it harder to actuate) i could consider it as a slightly stiffer red?

>>61026477
Whatever the hell you want. You have zero noise concerns.

>>61026530
I want something that has good feedback, requires a bit of a push, and clicky. I'm thinking green. Any specific keyboard I should be looking for? I literally don't care for looks as long as it is full sized, has a numpad, and is not eye-destroyingly gaudy. Backlighting is okay.

>>61026584
Get a Unicomp ultraclassic instead

>>61020635
what keyboard is that?

>>61026621
Read the file name

>>61026652
my bad, figured it was just gibberish

>>61026584
Greens, Unicomp Ultraclassic, Model M, Model F AT all fit your wants. Probably some clicky alps/matias too but I'm not as familiar with those.

>>61020635
What model is this OP?

>>61026614
>>61026676
>ultraclassic
sweet. I want to fall for the Model M meme but I want a new one and not a "cleaned" one. I'm thinking of http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40P36

>>61026584
This
>>61026676
>>61026614
Model Ms are tons of fun to type on and are much more tactile then cherry greens or blues. But you should know that both greens and buckling springs are a pretty heavy switch compared to a rubber dome. I prefer they heavier wheight as it helps me to not bottom out, but you may like lighter switches

>>61026744
but there are no new Model Ms are there?

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>>61020635
This looks nice, what is the keyboard and the keycaps?

>>61026794
Unicomps are new model ms. They use the same exact tooling. The biggest difference is that they use lighter plastics for the case. The original model m used pvc, while the new ones have an acetyl based case.

>>61026712
I'd get the USB version instead of the PS2. Rollover is the same either way.

>>61026835
Then it looks like it's the unicomp for me thx bb

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Hey /mkg/,

a nice anon recently advised me on buying a James Donkey 619-104 for 60€ (down from 140€ according to Amazon), and I bought it - it is my first mechanical keyboard and so far I am loving it. The gaming aesthetic is a bit much but I don't mind much because I usually don't look at my keyboard.

I downloaded the software to check out the LED options and it said there was a firmware update for my keyboard (?). Is that normal?
If so, the updater doesn't work, does anyone have an idea? pic related, it says the "target device" is not found

>>61026871
Huh, I meant to paste the USB one

>>61026211
yeah and you probably want to keep the windows setting at default and only change the sensitivity through the software that came with your mouse

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What's the consensus on the Logitech Romer G switches?

>>61026892
Id get a replacment lock light sticker as the default one looks ugly. There should be an option for that just ask them in the comments

>>61026951
Overpriced memes

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Is it dead for good?

>>61026686
KBD75

>>61026828
KBD75 keyboard and enjoypbt japanese keycaps

>>61026957
Thanks. It's not a big deal but the default did look unaesthetic

>>61026970
>Overpriced
The cheapest Romer keyboard is 90 bucks, is that a lot more than your standard Cherry MX keyboard?

They seem to be a bit faster than Cherry MX switches, with shorter travel and higher actuation points.
Which should be better for typing I guess.

Unless it's all marketing hoopla.

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Just got this in the mail today. Keycool 84 with brown cherry mx switches.

>>61027010
no it is not, the layout of the keyboard is different. I want that tkl one.
>enjoypbt japanese keycaps
wtf would I want that for? I won't ever use japanese and I am not a weeb pretending to be one.

>>61027047
What are even the keys on the right side? all r3s and r4s?

>People buying jap letter keycaps
>Don't know how to speak weeb and there are no subtitles on the keyboard
The delusions of a jap wannabe astound me.

>>61027097
lol sorry i thought you asked about OP's pic

keyboard is james donkey 619 TKL

keycaps on the keyboard are tai-hao sunshine

keycaps above are tai-hao miami

>>61026828
what keyboard is this

>>61027029
It is since old alps keyboard have the same actuation distance, and now cherry makes ones with even higher actuation points. Not to be out done the chinks also make switches with even higher actuation points. Its all just a big meme which doesn't matter since you bottom out most of the time when typing. Also you can cheap keyboards with cherry mx switches for 40-50 bucks. G80s and TGs are popular choices. If you want knockoffs those are even cheaper at 20-30 bucks

>>61027157
Thanks anon. Might pick this up soon, hopefully gaterons.
>>61027171
this >>61027157

>>61027110
they're the normal rows (r1, r1, r2, r3, r4, r4/r5)

there are some sets that have those keys like
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Thick-pbt-84-side-printed-Keycap-High-wear-resistance-For-OEM-Profile-Cherry-MX-Switches/32790881284.html

>>61027207
it seems like a pain to find keycaps for the far-right rows if you want something special. Damn I like this layout too.

>>61027110
not really sure what you're asking but if its about keycap sizes, the only odd ones are the right alt, fn, and ctrl.

wtf are pom printed keycaps? Are they better than pbt?

>>61027223
it isn't the far right rows that are the big issue, its the ones i mentioned here >>61027227

>>61027275
so even more a reason then... seems like though the alt wind and ctrl keys are just normal sized row 1 so that isn't too bad, but the shift key is a different story.

>>61027292
oh yea, and the shift key. forgot that one

>>61027241
PBT is hard to doubleshot, so they use POM as a secondary plastic to inject the legends

>>61026983
plz rspond

>>61027292
yeah they're a bit nonstandard so it's not as easy to get keycaps as for 60%/80%/100% but there are a bunch of high end sets that do have them (enjoypbt for example) and you could always get meme modifiers

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/enjoypbt-pbt-24key-keyboard-keycaps-CMYK-Dye-Sub-Keycap-Set/32729606232.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/enjoypbt-pbt-24key-keyboard-keycaps-RGBK-Dye-Sub-Keycap-Set/32731443507.html

>>61027339
What is the problem? Did you set some custom LED profile and now you don't know how to reset it?

>>61027241
POM keycaps are less common so not many people have tried them, but they are typically considered to be about on par with PBT, better than ABS for sure

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>>61027149
>Don't know how to speak weeb
speak for yourself anon

>>61027370
no, they keys that light up are being activated on the same time
I alredy tried it on multiple machines

>>61027557
you can't speak weeb. Stop it. Get some help.

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>>61027613
>you can't speak weeb
but I can

>>61027621
watching anime and reading the subtitles isn't speaking japanese anon.

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>>61027632
I'm aware of that

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>>61027655
Shit wrong gif, either way my point still stands.

>>61027241
In first world countries acetyl (Used to make POM) is considered to be carcinogenic, which is why you barely see them as keycaps. Of course the chinks don't care.

>>61027683
uh no it is not. Where the hell did you even learn that from? I literally took bio chem this semester

>>61027675
Lol ur just a bby. 115% is the tru patrician's choice

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>>61027738
well shit I didn't know 115% existed. Teach me more master.

>>61027731
auto correct changed it to acetyl. Its supposed to be acetal. Point still stands

>>61027757
That's just a meme layout with extra F keys on the left side. The old IBM admin keyboards and those corsair gaymer keyboards are also 115-120%

>>61020635
KBParadise V80, anyone has one? How do you like it?

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Whats the advantage of a KBD75(expensive as fuck) versus a $70 drevo Excalibur? The drevo is 70 bucks, backlit, removable cable, aluminum case, red black blue or brown? Like whats the selling point?
I am a big 75% fan and own a noppoo choc mini in black and white. Considering a new board but 75% is my preferred layout.

>>61027855
>aluminum case
mine is plastic. Do you mean the base?

>>61027675
Numpad has no business being attached permanently to the right side of the keyboard. It makes it impossible to hold the mouse in the correct position while also having your keyboard in the correct typing position.

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>>61027855
more layout options, meme side-lighting and full programmability

>>61027683
lol wut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene#Usage

>>61027768
You have to literally melt the keycaps for the formaldehyde, yes a carcinogen, to leak out.
>>61027907
Except when you are programming and need alt codes. No, a external numpad can't do alt codes

Why is it so hard to find no rain bow colored key caps to match a magicforce case?

>>61027953
caue you re retarded

>>61027948
>Except when you are programming and need alt codes. No, a external numpad can't do alt codes
I don't see how alt codes are useful for programming specifically, but fair enough. I'd figured an external one would be able to do that.
Still, it would be better to have on the left side in that specific situation.

>>61027855
nothing really unless you are really into programming your keyboard and shitty lighting effects. There is way too much brand loyalty in this general and it is fucking hilarious the hoops people go through to justify that their 200 dollar keyboard was worth the purchase when an exact 60 dollar model exists.

>>61027948
>No, a external numpad can't do alt codes
The Ducky Pocket can

>>61027898
drevo excalibur is aluminium

>>61027983
Well when a customer wants a special character then alt codes are extremely important. It is also common to do these days... If it was on the left side then it would still protrude and be more uncomfortable because the size is the same but now you need to use ur left hand to type in the center and instead of the left side where you are more comfortable.

>>61028051
I got the gramr, but my post is to old to delete

>>61028042
yeah I would rather carry around a 100% instead of buying a 70 dollar numpad to specifically do alt codes.... 70 dollaroos

>>61028108
>moving goal posts
Why not get a TKL instead since that can do ALT codes as well

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>>61028108
>carry around

>>61028058
>Well when a customer wants a special character then alt codes are extremely important.
That's not programming, that's designing. You wouldn't need to use the character in the code.

>If it was on the left side then it would still protrude and be more uncomfortable because the size is the same but now you need to use ur left hand to type in the center and instead of the left side where you are more comfortable.
The difference is that the protrusion is in unused space, as opposed to comfortable mouse use space. Yes it's a bit less comfortable to type, but you'll only ever type it once a day at most I think. Don't argue about the subjective use times place.

Also, a quick google shows that decent numpads do work with alt codes, you were just using shitty ones that send regular numbers instead of numpad numbers. So this argument is pretty moot, just buy an external one and move it to the right if you're "programming".

>>61028108
I forget which one, but either the Leopold or Keycool numpad can also do alt codes

>>61028058
web design != programming

>>61026527
Thank to 55g peak force, the subtle bump make a little bit harder to press. But after the bump, the spring is soft like red. Some don't like that and call it a dirty red.

>>61028108
Get a realforce 23U isntead if you want a rubber dome number pad :^)

>>61028151
>>61028135
>I have never actually programmed in my life
Do you not know backend these days deals with special characters as well?
>Yes it's a bit less comfortable to type, but you'll only ever type it once a day at most I think.
"Don't worry bro, it will be slightly uncomfortable, but you only type on it everyday." You are not very smart are you
>>61028126
Cause it is uncomfortable as fuck to type alt codes using the main alphas.
>>61028147
I am saying I would rather go with a 100% rather then spending that much money. I could probably buy another keyboard with it desu.

>>61028108
which alt codes do you actually use

>>61028252
>Do you not know backend these days deals with special characters as well?
Give an example then. I basically asked for one but you just gave a frontend one.

>"Don't worry bro, it will be slightly uncomfortable, but you only type on it everyday." You are not very smart are you
That's not what I said !

Nice of you to ignore the part that makes this all pointless though. Just buy an external one.

>>61027849
I have one with matias click, pretty solid. Replace caps asap though.

>>61028267
trademarks and copyrights, currency because when I take in a file I need to know if I use commas or periods when doing calculations, Umblas and special grammer characters and shit depending on what countries the input came from.

>>61028252
>using the main alphas
that's not how it works. On cheap TKLs they don't label it, but you can do alt codes with a numpad on a separate layer

>>61028317
Sounds like you can just take them from the files that are handed to you. No need to type them even.
Anyway, 60%s are better

>>61028293
Then that wasn't directed towards you? Why are you getting offended at something clearly not meant for you. I even did a greentext of that person's comment.

>>61028367
...No, stop pretending you know what programming actually is... Companies come to use to convert their applications from scratch. We get specifications and make our own program and give them a similar and updated application (C or python). We add improvements and the worst one I believe we got something written in ADA and literally noone in the office knew ADA.

Either you are a shit programmer or just dumb if you can not honestly see how alt codes would be used at all.

>>61028317
dunno what the fk you're doing but i can't see how this would be common enough to be worth memorizing a bunch of alt codes as opposed to using an onscreen character selector or copying and pasting them or something

>>61028457
>Then that wasn't directed towards you? Why are you getting offended at something clearly not meant for you. I even did a greentext of that person's comment.
You directly replied to me mate, not my fault if you fucked up the quoting then.

>>61028483
>greentext of that person's comment
>Think it is meant for you
You serious....
>>61028480
Cause I am not a shit programmer like you? When you do common shit like copyright and currency, it is just faster to altcode it.

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First it was flipped spacebars
Second it was keycap sizes
And now its Alt codes
This place gets more autistic by the day

>>61028511
>>greentext of that person's comment
>>Think it is meant for you
>You serious....
In case you're confused, I am that person you "greentexted". I'm, >>61028293 >>61028135 >>61027983
I still didn't say "Don't worry bro, it will be slightly uncomfortable, but you only type on it everyday.".

>>61028511
lmao, kill yourself

>>61028547
?Yes it's a bit less comfortable to type, but you'll only ever type it once a day at most I think.
Yeah you fucking did...

>>61028572
>>61028547
>Yes it's a bit less comfortable to type, but you'll only ever type it once a day at most I think.

Congrats I did fuck up there.
>>61028551
lolno

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>>61026983
Is malfunctioning like this covered by warranty

>>61028593
you can get a warranty for anything with enough charisma. Only factor is the time. How long have you had it?

>>61028457
contracting is fucking gay, you're "business" a shit, you're not developing your own software products, your company is just taking wagecucking to the next level

>>61028547
>Yes it's a bit less comfortable to type, but you'll only ever type it once a day at most I think.
Uh anon you kinda did

>>61028631
>reading comprehension of a 6 year old child

>>61028617
>goalpost moving
Plus you realize there is alot of money involved in contracting work. You would know that if you had an actual job

>>61028608
since Christmas

>>61028663
that's how bill gates got rich right, through contract work

you're a fucking joke

>>61028664
if it is covered by a year warranty anywhere, you can try it.

At this point is it worth getting a Filco Majestouch-2?

>>61028679
>Still goalpost moving
>And shit logic
Tell me when you actually get a job kid because I never claimed to try to be Bill Gates nor am I aiming for that much money.

>>61028803
you're the one being fucking retarded, just because you litter your code with special characters all day long doesn't make you a better programmer, probably the opposite in fact

>>61028662
That is a shit way of trying to justify what you wrote.

>>61028168

Wish I could try it out, but too bad there's no stores I could try brown switches at.

>>61028826
>goalpost moving again
>litter your code with special characters
Are you retarded and your small brain can't comprehend what I meant when I said I need alt codes. I use alt codes for special characters because I frequently use special characters at the job. If you go into programming, trust me you will be using special characters time to time. So I have gone to the point where I don't need ur amateur option of opening up word and using a gui to find the special character so I just type it out. I don't copy and paste alt codes cause that would be retarded if I already know how to type them out using alt codes.

Jesus you are dumb.

>>61028716
No, just get leopold.

>>61028983
>The Legendary 4% keyboard

>>61028631
Once a day at most is a 24+ hour interval, typing on something everyday implies that it's what you use most of the time. It's a big difference really.

>>61028928
using special characters is only justified in very specific cases (such as yours perhaps), but it doesn't mean it's anywhere near as common as you are suggesting, and it has nothing to do with being a good programmer or not.
KILL YOURSELF SMUG BAY AREA HIPSTER FAG

Just bought a POK3R MX Brown keyboard, what do you guys think? Worth it? I've never tried a keyboard without the numpad and arrowkeys so it will be interesting to try it out!.

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>>61029002
heh, it's still got a bit of work ahead of it. Adjusted the plate so that stabs shouldn't be problem, I'll still have to fill in about five whole millimeters with dissolved ABS between the two halves, because for some reason my printer decided to get all the measurements right, but just omit a few mm on the side for some reason. The measurements on the model are just fine though.

>>61028928
>using special characters time to time.
How the fuck is that "common"?

>>61029045
pick any C/C++ github repo that has special characters. for every example you find, there will be dozens which don't contain a single special character.

Anyone have an IKBC of any kind?
Good reputation, known issues?
Getting C87

>>61029017
the legends are dogshit

>>61028541
What are flipped spacebars about? I want in on the autism

>>61029045
If you actually read, which I am thinking you don't even have the ability to do anymore, you will see that I said I use it frequently and commonly. I never said common in general. You will still run into them.

>>61029097
Are legends the engravings on the keys? If so, I'm planning to buy a custom keycap set anyhow.

>>61029103
wow dude stop being rude
what are you angry about

>>61029103
You also said it was common in general, I don't care about your specific situation really.

>>61029118
uh have you read his comments.... he is not exactly the one being polite here either.
>>61029120
No I didn't? Are you illiterate?

>>61029140
>No I didn't? Are you illiterate?
>>61028058
>It is also common to do these days...

Unless you're some other dude suddenly.

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>>61029099
cherry/oem profile spacebars aren't very ergonomic because the bottom row is sculpted for fingers (not the thumbs), so to compensate for this it's common (especially on reddit and geekhack) to flip the spacebar, and because of the rivalry between 4chan and reddit it's a bit taboo to post flipped spacebars here

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>>61029140
>comments
is this reddit or what

>>61029158
I mean compared to previous years... "These days" not tip you off? Can you not grammar?
>>61029178
might as well be honestly.

>>61029206
>I mean compared to previous years... "These days" not tip you off? Can you not grammar?
I seriously doubt you "can grammar", considering your incredible misuse of several punctuation symbols. Also, there is absolutely no indication that it's a relative term. Besides, you're clearly backpedalling now because you first said you never said it was common, while now you acknowledge that you said it.
Just shut up.

>>61029164
Kinda disappointed really. That's less autistic then I thought.

>>61029245
> Also, there is absolutely no indication that it's a relative term
"These days" not tip you off?
>you're clearly backpedalling now because you first said you never said it was common, while now you acknowledge that you said it.
Big talk coming from someone who moved the goalpost 3 times.
Oh yeah sure, you try to get something out of context and u still fuck up. You are shit at this.

>Just shut up.
You sound like a kid giving up and frustrated.

How good are topres for typing only - for someone who never games and doesn't care about "double tapping" or "mashing the keyboard" or any gayman moves like that?

It's hard to tell sometimes in this thread whether people are recommending a keyboard for gaming purposes or because they actually know what they're talking about.

>>61029379
topre is a meme. clicky switches are the best for typing. you can use thick rubber o-rings to get a sort of similar rubbery tactile feel as topre

>>61029379
If you are looking for typing, get tactile or clicky switches. Topres are alright, but extremely overhyped and overpriced (japanese products, go figure). They are just improved rubber domes with some tactile bump, but none that noticeable. The ultimate typing keyboard are buckling springs and unicomp still sells new models.

what is the appeal of mks?
I mean ok get a cheap mechanical one if you like the feel, but this just looks fucking autistic with all these caps and all these different keyboards.

its really the worst of all hobbies

>>61029379
The only reason why you'd get topre is for the better build quality. They're designed for industrial applications, but have found a small niche as consumer keyboards

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>>61029635
>its really the worst of all hobbies
getting triggered by the hobbies of others being a close second

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>>61029635
Its all muh feels. That's it. Literally tumbler tier

Is there Where to Buy list updated?
Europe sites have nothing interesting.
Am I really just suppose to get a Filco and call it a day?

>>61029650
I am really triggered, spending over $1000 on a keyboard you can get for $100

>Its all muh feels.
Exactly my thoughts, it seems there is no benefit in getting a really expensive MK

>>61029671
here you go:
aliexpress.com
taobao.com
banggood.com
for more info go to >>>/g/csg

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>>61029685
>spending over $1000 on a keyboard you can get for $100
at least you can resell it, maybe you'll get out even more, given how special of a keyboard it must be to cost that much

>>61029635
you're right

all you need is a tada68

then you can get on with your life

but not until you own a tada68

>>61029704
Sorry anon I mean ducky. Just buy a ducky and get on with your life. I am definitely this same anon.

>>61029704
>>61029770

Why not just Logitech K120

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>>61029770
Oops I meant if you just need to program and do some light gayming then an HHKB is all you need

>>61029791
Haha I made a mistake again. Same anon here. Just get a Realforce keyboard. Realforce is all you need anon. Definitely the same anon.

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>>61029770
Sorry, I mean buy a 3D printer, learn how to design 3D objects, design a whole keyboard, then print it all in split parts, making minor adjustments to your parts after every attempt at printing them until everything fits just right because tolerances are a bitch, then wait for you switches to arrive and handwire the whole thing to a 3$ controller board from China and get on with your life.
Also make sure you hate yourself but always be ironic about it.

I am obviously the two anons in this string of replies.

>>61029818
Silly me. I actually meant to say an IBM space saving keyboard.

>>61029838
>>61029821
Oh my bad dude. Hey this is definitely the same anon. All you need is a magicforce. A magicforce is all you need for that gateron goodness. Sorry anon <3

>>61029635
>worst of all the hobbies

I thought about this and convinced myself that its not a bad hobby at all. Simply because unlike my gundam collection(still a shit ton of backlog too desu), I actually get to use my keyboard as opposed to just stare at it

>>61029770
>>61029791
>>61029818
>>61029821
>>61029838
>>61029859
THIS MEME NEEDS TO STOP HERE

>>61029859
Dang did it again. All what you really need is a noose.

>>61029876
What switches do the noose come in?

>>61029893
Mine is O2

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What do y'all think of this cyberpunk inspired set?

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>>61029913
>not helium
it's like you're not even scared of the pains of death

>>61029913
>Mine is O2
Heard those are shit. All about that Cyanide

>>61029935
lol neo isn't cyberpunk

>>61029935
I'd rather know why that crybaby weeb thought there was any good reason to put an お after キット

>>61029935
>weeb characters
it is shit.

>>61029870
DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

>>61029379
They feel pretty nice for typing, but if you want tactility, get something like buckling springs or matias quiet click.

>>61026951
I actually really like the original switch. But they kept fucking with the design to make the tactile actuation just like Cherry MX Browns (Literally the worst Cherry switch) to placate their idiotic 13 year old demographic. The switch basically had a built in suspension, with a padded landing area for when you bottom out to save stress on your fingers because it has such a short throw. Make sure you get a plate mount design though. And the LED is obviously the best in the market.

I am actually heavily considering the G pro.

I want a cheap 96key keyboard that looks okay. The winkeyless one isn't out yet, but there is this GB
http://www.ymdkey.com/pd.jsp?id=51&_pp=0_314_14_-1
I know its done by the chinks and its kinda stupid how it doesn't support RGB leds for the back light, but I want one for cheap. Are there any other options that I'm missing

What does /g/ think about fake chinkmade Cherry MX switches?

>>61030226
gateron > cherry

>>61029935
I don't think you can actually double shoot two characters on each key like that.

>>61030348
why not

>>61030348
You can, but GMK uses pad printing for the secondary legends

>>61030348
>>61030575
They're doing doubleshot for yuri cyrillic, maybe they'll do the same for this set, though the set won't exactly be cheap if they do.

How should I clean my keyboard? I use compressed air to dust it but not sure what should I use to clean the key caps.

so there's finally another run of the whitefox on kickstarter. are the halo true switches just a meme?

>>61030226
Gaterons are slightly better than Cherries on top of being cheaper. That said, they still have manufacturing inconsistencies like all chink switches.

Everything else (Kailh, Outemu, Zorro, etc) are shit tier and only worth buying if you're new to MKs and want a cheap tester board.

>>61026951
Rough and scratchy with a nonexistent tactile bump. Typing on Gateron Browns is more enjoyable than Romer-G. Honestly they should've made them linear.

>>61027029
It used to be the fastest switch around until Cherry released the MX Silver. If you're going to get a GOTTAGOFAST GAYMEEER BOARD you might as well get the Corsair K70.

>>61031416

I have never had a mech keyboard and I am looking at the K70. Not for it's looks, but because it includes features like very deep RGB programming and dedicated media controls.

I was also looking at a ducky shine 6 and cooler Master pro s. Those appear to have better internals but also do not have extra grills or deep color programming options.

What do?

>>61028108
>alt codes
>in 2017

>>61030512
How do you stop the fill plastic from flowing into the second set of legends?

>>61029356
>Big talk coming from someone who moved the goalpost 3 times.
I never moved the goalposts, I just adjusted to yours.

>>61031879
>deep color programming options
what the fuck kinda meme is that supposed to be? Get a cooler master pro M if you want to play frogger with the LEDs on your keyboard

>>61032070
With a mold

>>61031879
K70 LEDs is shit. Better buy Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro they even have SDK for that.

>>61031879
If you're talking about software to program the individual LEDs on your keyboard Ducky has that. You can also do it through the hardware level meaning you don't need to download the software at all. The benefit of this method is that you can plug the keyboard into any keyboard and you're presets will be there. Also the keyboard is programmable with 5 function layers so you can add in the media keys if you want.

>>61032125
>>61032134

Thank you for the suggestions. I am leaning towards the cooler Master pro s at it does have media control (via function keys) as well as the SDK tool. I understand it may be meme-y and short-sighted to buy just based on depth of color pattern programming but I guess my thinking was "if I'm spending 100+ on a keyboard it really should be able to do everything"

On a similar note, if I'm already spending close to 130 for a pro s, what's another 30 bucks for a ducky shine that everyone raves about? It seems like a real powerhouse but I'm debating my sanity by considering spending 160 for a computer keyboard

>>61032232

yesI researched the ducky programming but it simply is not as deep as the mainstream brands like Corsair and Logitech. No, I do not want to play snake on a backlit keyboard. But the ducky simply can't do complex reactive sequences, gradients, share and import other users profiles, etc

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is there a 60% keyboard case that has a raised edge so i won't be able to see the white backplate on the pok3r rgb?

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>>61032284
The main thing about Ducky is the build quality and programmabilty for macros and media keys. That's what everyone like about it. It also used to be liked for the minimal styling, but they got rid of that with the 6. That's why I like the shine 4 over the shine 6. The shine 5 is also okay, but the look of the 4 was the best.

>>61032482

I see. I was hoping to find a shine 5 but no luck so far. I'm not a mechk enthusiast, a programmer, or a hardcore gamur. It's just I've been using literally a $5 Dell keyboard and mouse combo for the last 10 years and I'm tired of it. I want to buy a very good board and mouse for myself that I will not have to replace for a long time and I do believe in the "buy once, cry once" mentality

>>61032546
I didn't care for the RGB lighting effects so I bought a non backlight Ducky board for the thick dye-sub PBT keycaps and programmable media keys. Its a fairly heavy keyboard due to the steel plate, but if I wanted a RGB keyboard I'd go with the cooler master pro instead

>>61032443
there are

>>61032687
link plz

>>61032724
there are hundreds of chink cases. This was the first result on eBay for me
http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-White-Mechanical-Keyboard-Plastic-Case-Universal-Frame-For-GH60-For-Poker/232046320457?_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3Dda7d47c90b9a424587aa469deb5a4e13%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D232075553499

>>61031416
I like the idea of a fast switch because my work involves typing at light speed all day.

So the Romer is good for fast typing, yeah?

>>61032916
no that would be topres

>>61032943
Those are a lot more expensive though.

>>61029935
Horrid, it is not surprising that the tastemakers in this community are a bunch of redditors

>>61029017
I have a poker 2 and have used it for an ungodly number of hours. You get used to going fn + wasd for arrow keys. I never used any of the other shit on a full-sized keyboard so I don't miss anything, but I know how to hit the things I might need occasionally. But yeah, 60% is great for saving desk space

>>61032961
then the cheapest would be those kaihua switches named after minerals, and are the second fastest contact switch out there

>>61029935
Link?

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>$200 for a case
https://www.massdrop.com/payment/40522

why is this so overpriced?

>>61033121
>why is this so overpriced?
Because enthusiasts are willing to pay that much money. To each his own I guess. I can't really talk since I've spent hundreds of dollars on keycaps.

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Should I get this one, anons?

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Chink copy carbon keycaps arrived pbt(so automatically better than original) and nice looking font

Is it worth asking for recommendations on a keyboard that has tenkeys and a pretty basic layout, like this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9sfmP6/kingston-hyperx-alloy-fps-wired-standard-keyboard-hx-kb1br1-naa1

Or is this more of a minimalist hangout?

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>>61033473
nice and thicc

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>>61033544
>>61033473
nvm... they are shit

>>61033560
>nvm... they are shit
lol

They probably just copied the entire set without modifying anything.

>>61033473
How do you get the white legends with PBT? Or are the Alphas the only PBT?

>>61034162
they are all pbt and taobao

>>61034162
They mold the cap in white and dye everything else.

>>61033528
rosewills are cheaper

>>61033473
Its the font that looks like shit.

>>61032786
any aluminum ones? thanks btw

>>61033473
>tfw 1.75 shift always fucks me

>>61033269
i mean keycaps are ok i think, but i've never seen a case go for that high

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any thoughts on the drevo chinkboards?

been thinking of upgrading from browns to either blacks or blues and amazon has some drevo boards for like $40 which is well within my budget right now.

Currently using a Noppoo Spyder and it's served me well, but i'm starting to become bored with the brown switches and i'm not quite willing to pay double for another board with decent switches.

From the research looks like they're either using Kaihl switches or some other 3rd party knockoff of Cherrys. Of course if i go with it i'm obviously gonna buy better keycaps (which i can afford to do right now if i stay cheap)

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R8 my first keyboard, gonna do a custom build
Should come out to about $115 including shipping

Was gonna buy a Drevo Gramr as my first board but might as well spend the extra money and get something that is reprogrammable, has keycaps/switches that I like and has nice aesthetics.

>>61020635
Red the copypasta.
Want a full sized keyboard with:
>brown switches
>dedicated media center buttons
>RGB backlighting
>water resistant like the Corsair K68

>>61033021
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/455/laser-gmk

>>61020635
Gateron Reds vs Blacks and 1.5mm o-rings vs 2mm o-rings?
Coming from a board with blues, I'm looking to get a board with something more quiet for some nightly quiet funposting.
Gateron reds feel the same as the blacks, just lighter?
And would I notice a difference in 1.5mm o-rings vs 2mm ones?

>>61035574
You could put a full sized ducky one in a clear garbage bag?

>>61035518
>XD60/64
still waiting assdrop edition.

>>61035881
no.
Fuck off retard. If Corsair can do it, so can everyone else

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>>61035896
>Fuck off retard.
D:

>>61022440
Ergonomics are also a placebo you hypocrite.

>>61035895
Apparently shipping from Ali should only take about 2 weeks from KPrepublic and almost a month from KBDfans

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>>61035940
I know but assdrop edition has kustom case.

That can also buy directly from KP.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf2JxikgErOIPc4Z7-9zA-3VFpJc2WIsGGc7zmgyuSSRwfBcg/viewform?c=0&w=1

>>61035896
>fuck off retard
>retard
>needs waterproof kb

>>61036073
clumsy does not mean retarded.

>>61036003
Seems like I save $25 but the shipping and PayPal fees will probably eat that up

Also is that plate actually steel? The ones they sell on Aliexpress are aluminum.

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>>61036108
>completely aware of level of clumsiness
>still eats, drinks, splooges by keyboard

i've got some bad news....

tada68 or anne pro?
both use gaterons
doubleshot translucid pbt keycaps on the anne pro
$20 cheaper
what are the pros of the tada68 ? I really wanted to get one but comparing with the anne pro I'm starting to think it's not worth it.

>>61036656
PBT keys are always a plus.

>>61036656
Tada68 is fully programmable and has better keycaps

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>>61027149
>not owning a jap keyboard to learn the language.

>>61037003
How are dye subs better than ds? I do agree they look better, also the anne pro is full programmable aswell, via its software.

>>61037009
Why not just install an IME that converts romaji to furigana/kanji?

>>61037028
With dye-subs you dont have to worry about the legends fadding of like double shots since both are permenant part of the keycaps. Now the tada uses nice and thick cherry profile PBT while the anne has OEM keycaps that are thinner. And no the anne pro is not fully programmable. The LEDs are, but not the keyboard

>>61037067
>And no the anne pro is not fully programmable
I'm 99% sure it is, at least it was said in all the reviews I've read, but anyways it's unimportant since i've never needed to reprogram anything in my keyboards.
So, aside from that and keycaps, they're p much the same level of quality?

>>61037117
The tada has more switch options and 6 more keys and a white backlight, while the anne pro is wireless with RGB lighting.

>>61031094
they're a new input club thing, they're unproven and i'd be wary because they're kailh, which have a bad rep and are typically only found on the cheapest of chinkboards

>>61033560
kek

>>61031094
Kickstarter in general's a meme.

>>61037698
Apparently those switches and Kailh speed switches are actually good now, idk I've never used them.

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>>61037698
Modern Kailh switches are alright. Kaihua's bad rep is largely thanks to bad batch of plastic leading to brittle stems (which they later fixed), as well as Razer simultaneously contracting out to Greetech. At the time anyone interested in Razer switches thought they were all coming from Kaihua.

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How would I be able to block writing to my programmable TADA68? Once in a while my keyboard will stop working because the OS wrote some random hidden folder to it and I have to manually rewrite the bin file to the keyboard which is a pain.