/tpg/ - ThinkPad General thread

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>>60991058
First for 2570p master race
>socketed CPU with efficient cooling system capable of handling up to i7-3940xm cpu
>16GB 2133MT/s CL11 RAM support
>very nice eGPU support (hotplug, up to 90% PCIe 2.0 x1 link capability
>two 2,5" 9,5mm bays
>RAID0 12Gbps support
>non-overheating docking station with standard 3x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0 charging port
>easy access to all internal components via single switch
>better speakers than x230
>non-whitelisted wifi slot. You can upgrade wifi card to intel 7260ac without playing with hardware SPI flasher and BIOS modifications like x230 users
>overclocking ability
>trackpoint with "tapping" support
>hardware battery charge indicator

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>>60991077
Second for 2170p ultramobile 11" i7 + eGPU dock master race.
lelnopevovo x120e BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

who /windows10/ here

all the 2570p shilling makes me want to try one (already own a x230)

is €150 a good price for the i7 version?

>>60991531
Fifth for the e6440

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>>60991531
it's actually a very good price.
>tfw 2570p CPU is as fast as p50 xeon
exdeee

Is a T520 i5 worth it for $255?

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10 days after I bought x220 shop stocked x230 with IPS only for $30 more difference

thats killing me

>>60991531
The only real reason to get one is so you can drop in a QM cpu later, so the cpu already in it is irrelevant

you dumb chinks told me the thinkpad retro was dropped.

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Reminder

>>60992559
>The thinkpad classic might unironically be the last good thinkpad

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>>60991058
playing left 4 dead with like no lag on my X220 (8gb ram and ssd)

feels gud

>>60992737
Fuck off shill

>>60992737
Anything can run that oldie on 640 * 480 and have no lag.

>>60992791
>>60992799
noobs

>>60988150
Not a Thinkpad, but on a Dell Latitude I had to install the Intel drivers before I could get brightness to work

>>60992468
Can you return it?

>>60992505
>is irrelevant
You can sell it for more money and then get more expensive qm cpu, so indeed it matters

>>60992954
yeah just simply sell it lol get your money back no problem

real life is not like an rpg kid

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>>60991716
DELET THIS NOW

If you inspect the teaser image on rgbthink.com you get 't_retro.jpg'

can you put a t420 Keyboard on t460s (or other relatively new t4**model) ?

My T430 is dying, lads, I got a big dark blotch on the bottom of my screen. What should I upgrade to?

>>60993434
p50

>>60993393
No, only the t430

guys is there way to download recovery DVD for x220 from internet? I dont want to order from lenovo unfortunately I formated my recovery partition

>>60993393
Unfortunately no. The chiclet keyboard on the new Thinkpad (**50, **60, **70) is supposed to still be the best in class, but it isn't the classic keyboard

>>60993462
thx

I downgraded my bios and then installed Middleton's, but it didn't do anything at all. I have the same disk speeds as before.

>>60993542
windows iso + lenovo system update tool has done everything for me

>>60993462
does it also work for the t430 S ?

>>60991058
Is the thinkpad x60 tablet still good in current year + 2. All I want to do is browse the web maybe compile some programs.

>>60993579
It will certainly be showing its age
There is no point in getting the tablet unless you're a drawfag

>>60992559
Good banter from the chinks.

Is the 4:3 screen confirmed or is it fake news and they're going to stick with 16:10?

>>60993588
I like screen that can turn. Also I draw sometimes but I'm not sure the touch drivers will work well with parabola GNU+linux.

>>60993574
Yes

>>60993616
Well if you want something, get a x201t at the very minimum

>>60993623

thx again !!!

>>60993505

check on the pirate bay . org theres an x220 windows 7 recovery iso download at your own risk but far as i can tell it looks clean

>>60993561
In my case, I'm selling an X220 right now and I decided to make a clonezilla image with a sysprepped Windows 7 installation with all lenovo drivers and nothing else, activated automatically with its legal refurbish key underneath.

My problem is, when installing windows, the fingerprint application pops up asking the user to set up the fingerprint sensor. I cannot seem to change that one unless I uninstall it and I wouldn't want to do that.

>>60993818
the fingerprint application should have a checkbox on the bottom that says "start up with windows"

uncheck that

>>60993864
Yeah, the thing is after fucking with it on audit mode and sysprepping this thing, that setting goes back to it on a new account.

Maybe I'll just leave it like that and explain in case there needs to be an explanation.

Fucking nigger HP 2570p shill
Thinking really hard whether I should buy one.
160€ doesn't sound bad for one. But I think I can't bear with that keyboard and its nipple.

Does the 2570p have a backlit keyboard available for it? Guessing no.

How are those reflective keyboard stickers on ebay when used with the keyboard light?

Bought this for someone who can't touch type yet so they have trouble in the dark.

>>60992454
I have the i7 version from when it was new. T520's are bretty reliable, only had to swap out the hard drive because i let someone else use it and they crammed it full of viruses.

>>60993965
You need a smallish laptop for portability reasons, right?
A 2570p is bulkier and has less battery compared with the x230 (with 9-cell batery).
It's more expandable, sure (regarding CPU), but the QM CPU in a 2570p throttles after a while under heavy load, it also rapes the battery under said loads.

The 2570p is definetly more robust than the x230, but they act differently when they fall. The HP is bendier and will get bent or cracked like and apple (but will whitstand much more than apple shit), while the x230 will crack faster than bend.
The keys themselves feel better (texture wise), but the layout is pure cancer. The trackpoint in the HP laptops is less precise and the lack of middle button is retarded. The trackpad is better than the x230 one (I only use the trackpad on an elitebook for scrolling though). No backlit keyboard option for the HP either.

Regarding meme eGPUs, the hp's seem to be more stable under express card 2.0 speeds, but I have a x230 that is completely stable too (I only say it's unstable because there are several reports of it in the web).

The x230 is harder to clean and change the thermal paste if you ever need to do it, because you have to take the motherboard from the chassis (which is only a 10 min operation, but whatever).

For more questions, feel free to ask.

>t. thinkpad and elitebook pro, fuck latitudes, tecras a shit, panasonic are awesome

>>60994121
>and has less battery compared with the x230 (with 9-cell batery).
????????????????
2570p also has 9cell option. It's actually 100Wh, while x230 has 93Wh. Recheck your facts.
>and the lack of middle button is retarded.
?????
And what stops you from scrolling with right trackpoint button?

>>60994034
>Does the 2570p have a backlit keyboard available for it? Guessing no.
No, only the light above the screen. But it's probably possible to fit 2170p keyboard into 2570p, which has exact same layout and it's backlit.
>but the QM CPU in a 2570p throttles after a while under heavy load
Lie. 35W QMs NEVER throttle on standard heatsink.
45W QMs also don't throttle, but temperatures close to 100C are not acceptable (throttling engages at 102C, 105C is shutdown)
It's very easily fixable by mountig small piece of cooper or cooper coints on the heatpipe, which is the only bottleneck in 2570p cooling system.
>rapes the battery under said loads.
My standard 6cell battery (55Wh) with i7-3740m works for 1 hour under full load of CPU and iGPU, screen at 100% and SSD+HDD spinning. 100Wh option is about 2 hours. But lets face it: you will never load the cpu that badly, even during gayming. In practice 55Wh battery gives me from 4 to 6 hours of chrome use. 100Wh is about 12 hours.

>>60994379
also meant to
>>60994121
*copper
*mounting
sorry for my finger autism

>>60994270
>2570p also has 9cell option. It's actually 100Wh
Didn't know that.

>And what stops you from scrolling with right trackpoint button?
Because that button is for right click.

>Lie. 35W QMs NEVER throttle on standard heatsink.
Proofs? On normal loads they sure don't, but make them render something and watch the chip's temperature climb and climb until it throttles.

>My standard 6cell battery (55Wh) with i7-3740m works for 1 hour under full load of CPU and iGPU, screen at 100% and SSD+HDD spinning
Yep, that's shit. Without the QM you would have another 30 mins at least.

>>60994404
Don't worry, everyone's an autist.

>>60992737
HAHAHAHHAHAHAA
Jesus christ you guys are pathetic.

Has anyone tried pulling off the sticker of the trackpad or even replacing it with another one different kind?
Got my T460 and it has a rubbery finish on the trackpad, feels very gritty and I hate using it.

>>60994633
>Because that button is for right click.
you press the button and don't release it - it works as scroll button
you press the button and release it - it right clicks
Literally using it right now and everything works fine.
>Proofs? On normal loads they sure don't, but make them render something and watch the chip's temperature climb and climb until it throttles.
The fact that these qc cpus are 35W is enough. All dual core cpus are 35W too.

>Yep, that's shit.
>30 mins at least
So this will be 1:30hr.
This is exactly how long my old x230 with 9cell battery (80Wh usable capacity) was lasting. It was i7-3520m and IPS powered, and I'm counting full load during fallout: new vegas gameplay. So I'm sorry desu but IPS screens use much more power than the difference between my i7-3740qm and stock dual cores.
No surprise tho. IPS screens are known to be extremely power hungry.

>>60994379
>No, only the light above the screen. But it's probably possible to fit 2170p keyboard into 2570p, which has exact same layout and it's backlit.

Wish there were a single success story for this. From googling it seems like an extra ribbon cable would be necessary to power the backlight and I don't know where this would go on the motherboard.

>>60994999
there are lots of unused connectors on the 2570p motherboard. Even powered USB headers.
So I guess it's only a matter of measuring what voltage it requires and using the proper connector.

>>60994880
I didn't even know it was a sticker

>>60973290
To this anon, sorry I have been having problems with my winXP installation and also problems finding touhou games. But I will still continue investigating T60, how it performs when watching videos and shitpostng. I was also suspecting that this machines' wlan was being slow.

I will give you comparison on synthetic performance numbers between T61 and T60

i have an x220t, and i recently installed ubuntu cuz my old ssd killed itself.

I cant get it to boot into GRUB, idk wtf to do at this point. All it shows past the bios is a blinking underscore. Even tho the installation works fine. what do??

>>60995247
Welcome the to club pal
I'm currently trying this link below for my stupid problem after playing around on my win7 which is now fucked
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

Anyone have a decent guide on how to use a RPi 3 model b as an SPI flasher? Trying to whitelist my T430s.

Also;
>>60991077 can you have a display higher than 1366x768? Otherwise I'd rather get an x220 and get the high res mod.

>>60993545
Did you enable it in the bios? And if you don't have an SSD it probably won't matter.

>>60995369
Yes.
Is it as simple as in x220? no.

>>60993602
There's no goddamn way they're going with 4:3. I'd honestly be surprised if they even got 16:10. We'll just have to wait and see though I guess.

>>60994899
TDP is different from actual power consumption.

>>60995441
We are talking about heat and throttling, not power consumption.
Well actually both, but I never implied TDP is related to power consumption. Desu.

>>60993602
>>60995415
or 3:2 since those already exist and are up to modern standards

>>60994121
What's wrong with latitudes? Especially the E6400 and E6500. Pinnacle of Dell design IMO.

>>60994121
You don't say shit about E6440 baka
E6440 is the best 14" laptop with nvidia dGPU, quad core xm haslel CPU and 1080 IPS screen.
Plus it supports overclocking, triple SSD setup + WWAN + non-whitelisted wifi slot.

>>60995468
Forgot about 3:2, that would be amazing. 4:3>3:2>16:10>>>>16:9.

>>60995412
No shit. Did it on my x220, just trying to get it done on here. I can mod the bios if I can get a dump but the guides I've found for using a pi 3 don't work because the software isn't available.

>>60995412
>>60995565
ah fuck realized you're probably talking about the second part of the post.

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>>60992559
We came a long way after 25 years

>>60992637
If it is successful, I hope Lenovo makes the T480 or T490 with a non-chicklet keyboard and thick build quality, while the L series takes it's place for 'slim' laptop

>>60993545
get dat WLAN whitelist nigga

>>60994121
>fuck latitudes
There are a few nices ones, I like the E6400, E6410 and E4200.
I think the E6430s was a neat device, though the E5520m is quite laughable (Core 2 Duo in 2011)

Although the E7440 does like to throttle and has shit battery life, I think it is a better machine than the X1C2 that came out around the same time.

Also the magical E6440 sounds nice too.

>>60995565
Are you still talking about 2570p or x220?
x220 AFAIK doesn't require bios mod, or at least it depends on the converter board.
2570p doesn't require any bios mods. It's just a matter of fitting right panel into this tight screen section and finding the proper cable.

>>60995629
Disregard all that shit, I though you were replying to the part about asking for the bios mod for my t430s. But the 2570p doesn't need a converter board though?

>>60995659
it does. It uses same single-line lvds standard as x220/x230/t420/t430
but ffs anon, why would you want a higher resolution on 12,5" screen? I do understand changing the screen to proper IPS, but 1080p? For what reason?

R E T R O
G
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>>60995732
I have great eyesight, 1080 at that size is perfect for me. Any more and I do need scaling, but 1080 gives me the perfect amount of workspace at that size.

>>60995606
>Want to buy a new laptop before I go abroad
I guarantee I'm going to buy the T470 and the T4** line is going to recieve a huge game changing upgrade
Or even worse, the X280 gets Thunderbolt 3

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am i in the right /tpg/

>>60995041
yeah some kind of protector to guard the panel behind it. Instead of making the surface uneven with sweat and continuous usage, you just screw up the sticker which can be replaced. The sticker is pain in the ass though. Absolutely horrible friction due to rubbery coating

>>60996088
Depends what it's on

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>>60996088

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>>60995996
Haahahah that would suck balls.
My refurb X1C3 depreciated $300 when I had to sell it 4 months later.

>>60996088
Yes, welcome, bringer of dubs. HH

>>60992737
why do you need vs to runn left4dead?

>>60996193
I wouldn't even know how to sell it in the country I'm going to and there's no way I would sent it back home and have my parents send it to the buyer because it would get lost
When are Thinkpad refreshed? December?

can i run anything good with the default nvidia 2000m?

>>60996683
That's a GeForce 460 so it'll "run" basically anything in the world

>>60996683
Run what? Gayms? Video rendering software?

>>60993647
But thats not libreboot compatible.

>>60996779
vidya, yeah
but then again >buying a thinkpad for vidya

Thinkpads with Ryzen APU's when?

>>60996845
God, use iGPU or eGPU. Play libre gayms only. This includes supertuxcart and other autism soft like that. THose proprietary gaems are for no good unless they run vulkan.

>>60995326
thank you! this worked for me

>>60996845
Look, just do to wikipedia and see the pure processing power of the GPU and this tactic in future from doing stupid questions like these.

For example, Quadro M2000m has 1.4TFLOPS of processing power. This is right about the equivalence of GTX750. Can you do a whole lot with a GTX750? Do note that M2000m has 4gb vRAM. Note that your CPU may or may not bottleneck.

Do you use thinkpads exclusively or do you have a desktop computer as well?

I'm considering buying a new thinkpad to replace my desktop. I'm going to use it for games. As in several hour sessions.
Out of 10 how bad of an idea is that in terms of killing the lifespan. Assuming it iwll be plugged in when playin games if that matters

Hey guys which thinkpad tablet should I use for school? I need it for taking notes and doing hand-written math problems.

>>60997447
The question is "what games"

Because if you're playing Minecraft, TF2, LoL, DOTA, Skyrim or Starcraft 2 like everybody in the world they'll run on pretty much anything without much stress.

>>60997498
pen and paper

>>60997505
The most stressful would be XCOM 2.
I'd get a dedicated GPU anyway.

Other that that, nothing really comes to mind that's too difficult. Maybe Fallout 4.
Oh and the new Monster Hunter game that'll be released.

I don't get if they're on low at 720p. But it's more a case of "will I have to buy a new laptop in two years" that I'm wondering, new games needing higher specs aren't included - obviously that would need new hardware. I'm wondering about game playing on life span.

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>>60997540
>>60997498

>>60997636
Too bad this is rare as tits and costs (even today) one kidney

>>60995394
I tried looking everywhere in the bios setup, I couldn't find anything related to Middleton's. I have the usual AHCI/Compatibility mode in the Serial ATA option. I was planning on buying an SSD but I'm still considering whether it will be waste or not.
I have a disk in the Ultrabay slot which throws me a

SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)

with smartctl -a

>>60998007
Yeah you aren't going to get any improvement without an SSD.

>>60991077
>very nice eGPU support (hotplug, up to 90% PCIe 2.0 x1 link capability
mine shows error 12 in the device manager. what did you do to get around it?

Reporting in using my X201 Tablet. Connected to external speakers, second monitor, and external mouse. Comfy as hell but also generates a ton of heat. I think driving the second monitor is taxing the poor onboard GPU.

>>60997498
As someone who has used an X201 Tablet for school, I'm not sure this is something you really want.

It will work but for personal notes I'd prefer pen and paper every time. If your professors only accept stuff written digitally, then sure. I have only tested Inkscape. Maybe other drawing / note programs work better.

I don't formally recommend the X201 Tablet for school because it's theoretically bulkier than newer business tablets, but if you're on a poorfag budget it will get the job done.

t400 gets delivered tomorrow. Got one with 4gb ram; will that be fine for general use or should I upgrade to 8gb?

>>60999216
how much ram are you using right now and would you consider that general use?

>>60996814
libreboot is a joke, just get coreboot and be happy

Where can I buy a 1080P IPS display for the w530?

>>60999350
find the FRU number, search ebay, laptopscreen.com, etc.

Just got a X60 and love everything about it but the screen. The only ones made for it were 768p. Are there any after market ones that work for it?

I got a T440p for $220 on ebay, replaced the trackpad with T450 for $35, and the screen with a 1080p IPS for $45.

This laptop is a dream for me and cost $300, literally couldn't be happier.

Thanks for popping my vintage thinkpad bubble. I still have one, but for daily use this thing kicks its ass.

>>60993434
get a new screen silly, everything is replaceable...

x61 for 75 bucks worth it?

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>>60996491
Actually, I don't keep tabs... usually 3 months after a new processor line is announced

>>60997426
I went with a rando gaming build I've gotten one day, then Lenovo Erazer and now Mac Pro 2012 w/ a Dell T3600 for Linux.
Chromebook Pixel is my work laptop and T430s is my main after that.

Kinda want to get rid of the erazer and do something about the HDDs w/ a hub or server.

>>60997734
It wasn't too expensive two years ago, from $120 to $300.

>>60999647
SXGA+ swaps were popular from X60T's, but that has fallen down and getting the special LCD cable is a PITA

>>60999665
What FHD display did you get?
I had gotten a Chimei Innolux display from laptopscreen and it wasn't half bad. Though comparing it directly to the B140HAN01.3 was noticeable.
Really this wasn't that much money considering a T430s was $400+ with the X1C swap a few years back...

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Who comfy with libreboot here?

Why are thinkpads just so good what did they do that was so right

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>>61001460
Me. Any idea the requirements for a background? I tried to change it to pic related and it was just a black screen.

>>61001686
keep their design at least into 2012, because if you remember many old laptops were just as good

T430 i5 without a battery or hard drive for $130 Y/N

>>61001933
t530 from 2011 best

>>61001460
>>61001931
Also, did you re-compile GRUB? The border around mine is just "?".

>>61001978

make sure the BIOS isn't locked. people often strip them back if the BIOS is locked (stolen presumably) and sell it to unsuspecting buyers.

>>61001931
>>61001998
I didn't try to modify the background, I liked the gnu so I just left it stock.

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Should I get the T400? I was considering the T420 but I hear the screen is shit.

>>60991058
A deal fell through for me to buy a new laptop, and my current Dell shit needs a Dell brand charger, so should I just make the leap into ThinkPad?

I mainly just need good battery life and reliability, but anything else is a plus.

Any suggestions for a <$300 refurbished ThinkPads I could run Linux on? More than willing to do refurbished, used, etc.

>>61002218
Also, I have 8gigs of DDR3 RAM and a 128 gig SSD from my old computer that I would love to swap into the new one, if at all possible.

>>61002218
X230 or T430 or T530 depending what size you want

they can be found for <$200 pretty easily, new 9-cell batteries are like $60-70 and will get about 10-12 hours on all of those machines

How bad would it be to buy a t61p with the Nvidia 570M card? I read they are faulty. What's faulty? Considering the laptop has lasted so long until now, am I right to assume the gpu is probably not going to have an issue down the road?

>>61002625
I would guess not, but I'm not quite sure.
I don't know exactly what the defect was, but back then, a good batch of T60's, T61's, X60's, X61's and related models had their NVIDIA GPUs built with a defect that made them die after a certain time. Just keep replacing the thermal paste every now and then.

>>61002072
the screen is only mildly better
nowhere near worth the drop in performance
plus you can just get a better screen for the t420 and sell the old one and only loose like 10 or 20 dollars.

Can someone help me find the catch with this ebay listing? it says it comes with a 500gb SSD but those alone are pretty much the same price that this is listed for.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-Laptop-14-2-60GHz-Intel-Core-i5-3320M-4GB-Ram-500GB-Win8-/371987057239?hash=item569c280a57:g:e9QAAOSwPh5ZLg5H

>>61002842
no pictures of the actual device so it's scratched to shit
ask for pictures of the device itself

>>60998218
which card?
if you use 750/750ti/650/650ti/9xx/10xx you need to do DSDT override.

I found a T420, 1600x900 resolution, the seller claims it has a dedicated video card with 1632mb of VRAM. Am I being conned or are there models with a dedicated card?

>>61002887
he's just retarded and read the igpus memory
or he's retarded and read both the igpu and dgpus memory and went with the biggest number

Posting from prototype retro thinkpad, you fags feelin mad?

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Should I get this?

>>60992737
nice hack, big packets?

>>60996298
debugging my hack xd

>>61003187
I wouldnt but because of price

>>61003215
ye

Posted this on twitter and TPF
will be making a YouTube video later, this is the script for it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCE-C5hI7CcHtcq6KDI7i1IyXzzLb4BX87U5YdLKwLI

I won't show much of my face on it, but I am unsure if I should show a light cross dressing or full on plastic face of myself for this... thinktrap trolling and whoring (:
Trips decide

>>61003041
Envy if anything. Post photos of it, or be a NDA fag.

>>60992737
why are you cheating in a pve game?

How many hours of use are you guys pushing out of your 9 cell x220's? Im afraid my battery is losing its capacity when I can get 4 hrs on very low performance presets.

>>60991058
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T510-I5-M540-2-53GHZ-8GB-DDR3-320GB-HDD-Windows-10-HOME-5203/361970509744?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dad075ea281d24de4a8a978635d7dcd31%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D391766515681

Is this a good model for my first TP?

I'm planning on swapping the HDD for a SSD pretty immediately, but I worry about the age making it a bit slow. Is that founded?

>>61003721
You can get a t4/520 for that price without a hard drive
>>61003717
I can get about 6 or 7 hours out of my x220t with a brand new lenovo battery
It's not how far you're throttling the cpu, it's how you use it
The quicker the cpu can get back to standby the better.
One easy trick for better battery life is to scroll really fast and far, but not very often. Depending on what I'm doing it can save me 30 minutes to an hour of battery life.
also if you got a chink battery then they're rarely very good (both in capacity and longevity)

>>60995123
Ok, thanx for efforts

Poofy hair kid, are you using thinkfan or otherwise hindering the fans?
Try cleaning the dust out or reapplying thermal paste.
There's no way to reach 90C unless you literally turned the fans off.

>>61004486
>he
daily reminder that I don't care about gender labels.

I was going to do a video about writing the history of the Original ThinkPad but... idk if anyone wanted it.

Maybe I should do it?

>>61004679
You didn't reply to me xsauc. I want to do a laptop challenge. Pls desu?

Also you should do that video, history vids are pretty chill.

>>61004679
pls do, the script looks interesting.
I didn't read the whole thing because I don't want to spoil it.

also personal pronouns are not gender labels and you weren't even wearing makeup so i'm gonna keep calling you he

>>61004737
nigga you make me laugh
hahahaha wow
I plastered my face with foundation.... guess i need more to be basic bitch level lol


>>61004729
I forget if its EPC or some company but there is a big company that does IT shit in texas that I swear i've bought from before....

I]ll try not to install an OS lol

>>61004816
Mind if I use lunix?
Thanks for the tip. Epc does have a store in texas, but its a pretty big state desu.

I've checked out lonestar auctions before, it is a government auction house, but I generally don't want to buy 20 laptops at a time. I've thought about it though.

Does anyone have an ISO or IMG of the modified 1.43 BIOS (no whitelist, lifted RAM frequency, etc.) for the X220?

I fell or the T460P meme but it's really not so portable. When I work in the train it can barely stand on the little train-desks and stuff like that. It's a great computer but it's rather for longer trips where I need the computing power and for home.

What old ThinkPad can you suggest me (11-12") for travel? Doesn't need a lot of power, but should be portable and the battery life should be OK.

The only no-go is 1366x768

>>61004486
>>61004679
could you fuck off back to >>>/soc/, you attention whoring faggot?

>>60994855
>>60996298
>>61003215
>>61003445
Could you please disable your tripcode and fuck off?
Everyone sees you're talking to yourself, you little dipshit.

fucking summer cancer

does anyone have any idea where I could find a 3-cell battery for the x230t? can only see dodgy chinese ones

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What's the cheapest functional thinkpad one can buy?

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X230 for 185$ or X220 for 170$?
>Core i5, 4GB of Ram, 250 GB HDD

Is this a good deal? Or would I be better off checking eBay listings? https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16834331719

>>61006207
That's a good deal, just get an ssd with it.

>>61006224
Thanks, I always see people talking about eBay and Craigslist like that should be here you get them, so when I saw this one I was a little weary

>>61006083
x230 for battery life and it doesn't run hot. BUT, replace the keyboard with that of a x220 for purity

>>61006283
>x230 for battery life and it doesn't run hot
X230 have better battery life?
Both of them comes with generic 6 cell battery.
And I thought X230 runs hotter than X220 and throttle the CPU?

Tempted to buy a thinkpad, I just need a cheap laptop.

>>61006307

Not him but, yeah they use the same battery however the X230 has a newer and more efficient CPU.

>>60991077
wtf is that keyboard

>>61005397
x230 w/ ips

I need a cheap computer with x86-64 CPU and a CD/DVD reader so I can install TempleOS like a white male.
Any recommendations?

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>ips screen for my x230 arrived today
>the fucking tn screen is noticeably brighter
what the fuck

>>61006723
wtf are you talking about famala?

>>61005594
no

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>>61005594

>>61006898
again, could you fuck off?

>>61006882
T60? Why isn't there IBM logo?

>>61006972
It's R60

>>61007002
My mistake

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>>60991077

>>socketed CPU with efficient cooling system capable of handling up to i7-3940xm cpu
>2570p
>handling a 55W quad core with a max operating temp of 105 degrees C

In your fucking dreams, retard. Please tell me how that puny heatsink can ever cool such a chip compared to the righteous W530's heatsink? Please do tell me how the one on the left is on par with the one on the right.

>>60991077
>tapping
What?

>>61007288
How do you clean that kind of heat sink?

>>60991058
I was thinking of buying a secondhand Lenovo Thinkpad T510 is it any good?
Or should I rather buy a Lenover T400 For alot cheaper?

>>60991058
I don't even like Lenovo but I am genuinely interested with what the thinkpad classic turns out to be.

https://rgbthink.com/

Twelve hours left.

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>>61007288
>55W
>not understanding what "TDP" is
>he thinks somehow 100MHz added into 45W i7-3840qm makes it 55W
>he clearly doesn't understand that the longer heatpipe is the less efficient entire cooling system is
back to school, summer cancer.
also
>comparing w530 heatsink designed to handle 55W quadro dGPU PLUS 55W intel CPU to 2570p heatsink designed for 45W cpus
(you)
I never said unmodded 2570p heatsink can handle i7-3940xm. More like I was talking about enough power provided by power section. Of course you need to mod it a little or otherwise you'll end up with 100C temperatures.
Pic rel can easily handle i7-3940xm under full load of cpu and iGPU at 90C degrees.

>>61007371
Where do you buy stuff like that?

>>61007371
>need to upgrade your heatsink
Might as well buy a desktop.

>>61007427
like what?
This is a standard heatsink with additional copper elements.
You can just buy 5mm copper plate, cut as many elements as you want to fit inside and just glue these into the heatsink (especially the heatpipe) with epoxy + thermal compound. Copper coins will also do the job.
My i7-3740qm at full load doesn't even get 85C degrees. And you can always lower the temperature even more by making custom fan profile and using liquid metal compound.

>>61007458
You know, to get quad core 2570p you also need to upgrade your CPU.
You say this like this is too much for you. So, anon, are you retarded and uncapable of doing basic heatsink mod by yourself? Is this is what it's all about?

>>61007458
>need to upgrade your heatsink
>Might as well buy a desktop.

>because spending $5 on small copper plate and doing simple 5 minute mod is too much for /v/ to accomplish
you might want to get macbook instead. In desktops you have to assemble everything by yourself and from time to time repaste your CPU.

>>61006887
looks like 820 G1 board, is it stock or modded?

or just a Chinese replacement board kek

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>>61007371

>guy mentions 3940XM being supported

The 3940XM is a 55W chip you stupid fuck. You're the idiot who isn't even aware of what he's arguing. Regardless of the dGPU cooling element, both have TWO heatpipes through them, not one. Also, piss off with your hackjob bullshit. Trying to shoehorn a quad core in a case that can't handle it. Literally GNU/Car levels of dumb.

>CAPTCHA: retorno petite

You heard Google, take your bitch shit out of this thread.

>>61007534
this is 2560p stock keyboard with black frame instead of silver, senpai
>>61007613
>still comparing 110W heatsinks to 45W ones
>still doesn't understand what TDP "worst usage scenario" is
>still doesn't understand how thermodynamics work
fuck off >>>/v/, your computer time is almost over

>>61007495
>doing basic heatsink mod by yourself
That's easy getting the part is difficult if not impossible.

>>61007695
which part? $3 heatsink or $5 copper plate?
https://www.aliexpress.com/popular/3mm-copper-plate.html
Get the smallest one possible

>>61003187
seems like a good deal

>>61007727
All of it.
When you live in the middle of nowhere the cost of shipping can reach up to 20$ per item.

>>61007758
Poland is a 3rd world shithole, yet 2560p/2570p heatsinks cost below $4
Literally trying to sell one for 8zł ($1=4zł) and noone is interested because these cost 5zł straight from companies selling thousands of deprecated 2560p/2570p units. 5mm thick 20x20cm copper plate cost me $5 two months ago plus $2 shipping.
How about you just move to non-shithole country?

>>61007673

>INTEL SPEC SHEET: I7-3940XM TDP: 55W

Holy shit you fucking retarded mongoloid. It looks like you need to fuck off back to wherever it is you came from, HP forums or whatever. Just please fuck off and stop beating the dead HP shittop you got swindled into buying.

>>61007807
>move to non-shithole country
And do what for living?

>>61007838
>i7-3840qm, 2.8GHz stock, 3.8GHz turbo. 45W
>i7-3940xm, 3.0GHz stock, 3.9GHz turbo. 55W
>b-b-but m-muh 55W!

also
>still not understanding what "WORSE CASE SCENARIO" is.
Just because CPU can generate enough heat to be "55W" when using all available 4 dimms plus extra features *not available in 2570p anyway* doesn't mean you will EVER get so much heat in 2570p, you STUPID NIGGER DIPSHIT.
Read
"worst case scenario"
100 times. Maybe at some point you'll understand how fucking stupid you are.
And again, countless reports of people putting i7-3940xm into 2570p and getting fine working unit without throttling shits all over your retarded point again. Now go repeat "muh 55w" some more, but please enable your tripcode first so I can filter your shitposting.

>>61003187
with the SSD and the ram it's a ok price but check if it's IPS or not

>>61007899

tl;dr

>i swear it can work so long as you never use the CPU to its full potential!!

Neck yourself you stupid fuck.

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>>61007371
Hmm, now when you mentioned, it seems to be quite a little heatsink. The heat pipe is short which optimal because it's more efficient transferring heat and but those fins on the end of that. As you can see in the picture, X220 has longer pipes but not as much fins as 2570p has which. By fins I mean the surfare area those bring.
But I want to doubt that 2570p stock heatsink is not enough to cool 45w CPUs down when under 100% load.

>>61005936
x230 or x220

>>61007838
>i3-3110m, literally lowest dual core IB CPU
>1GHz turbo iGPU
>35W
>works fine with passive cooling, can be seen in PASSIVE COOLED TABLETS

>i7-3520m, highest dual core IB CPU
>1.25GHz iGPU
>35W
>overheats during heavy load in x230 with 100% spinning fan
still not getting it?
Please also read what "revision" is.

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http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-its-alive/

Why soldered CPU?

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>>61007931
Yes, you retard. You can't use full potential of i7-3940xm because 2570p doesn't have 4 dimms and uses max 2 pcie x1 links. WOW THIS WAS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
kill yourself stupid negroid.
>>61007946
2570p heatpipe is extremely short, so all the heat is immediately transfered and blown the fuck out by the fan. 2570p has proper fan inflow below it unlike x220, which has less vents and much worse fan.
2570p fan is better but it wears quicker, but honesly who gives a fuck about paying $1 every 2-3 years to replace a fucking fan. Holy shit
>But I want to doubt that 2570p stock heatsink is not enough to cool 45w CPUs
cool story bro. I'm using one for 3 months now. NEVER experienced throttling, and I gaym a lot using both iGPU and GTX960 eGPU.
I've personally tested my brother's i7-3940xm and I'm 100% sure slightly modded 2570p heatsink can handle all this heat. Well maybe if you get some shitty first revision unit it might have thermal issues, but clearly mine doesn't have it.

>>61008014
>paying $1 every 2-3 years to replace a fucking fan
What if the fan no longer in production?

Hi,

unfortunately I can't find an X220 for dat portability. I use LibreOffice and a PDF writer for work, other than that I only use the web.

Is the X220T (touchscreen and turn display) a good substitute? The touch display would be dank, but I am afraid about the hinge itself.
>>60991058

>>61008055
You get 10 fans with your parent's pocket money and you're set for the next 20-30 years.

>>61007976
>I will proudly carry one. Exact pricing and availability are not finalized but I can assure you it will not cost $5000!
>it will not cost $5000
To the trash it goes :^)
>>61008014
It's funny because my X220 with i5-2520m under 100% got up to +90c even if the fan was running it's maximum. That by itself has made me classify X220 not field ready unless I try reapply thermal paste (which I totally should do).
While my T61 with T7300 (35w cpu as well) could stay way under 80c (about 75c) while running 100% for 3 days. I just couldn't get it to overheat.

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>>61008063
>The touch display would be dank, but I am afraid about the hinge itself
The hinge is fine, but the touch can be a little difficult sometimes.

>>61008092
Sandy Bridges were always housefire tier. Personally haven't tested these, but my experience is based on my old x230 units. One with i5-3320m, one with i5-3360m, one with i7-3520m.

>>61008055
Stocking up is an option, isn't it?
>>61008116
Well in that case I'm buying. Ir's about 200$ where I am (Czech republic), but postage from anywhere else is shit.

Thanks!

>>61008116
That's a driver issue. An issue Lenovo didn't acknowledge when the tablet came out and it won't acknowledge now.

Install the standard Wacom Bamboo drivers, it usually solves that problem.

>>61008084
>next 20-30 years
>using deprecated hardware
C2D are obsolete, Sandy bridge will soon be deprecated, ivy bridge will follow.
At most your Core i7 will last for 3-5 years at most.

>>61008134
>Stocking up is an option, isn't it?
Be sure to power those fan so their bearings and its oil don't get stuck

>>61008130
So Ivy bridge runs cooler, use less power than sandy bridge?
And even preforms better?

>>61008142
Just so you know, there is a lot of software (new and old) you can run on 30-20-year-old hardware.

>>61008116
>>61008063
>Tablet
Why would anyone get that?

>>61008142
You asked me how to deal with fans not being in production. You received an answer. I don't recall saying you have to use 20-30 years old 2570p, which is, oh boy, like 5 years old already.
But these things are so cheap that I'm going to keep my 2570p plus all spare parts until it completely loses it's purpose, ie after actual modern non-ulv trash alternative is born on the market.
Also, pls anon check this:
>>60991716
Is that the """""progres""""" you're talking about?

>>61008189
Try to open a new website on old CPU.

>>61008170
Yes
HD4000 (IB) is 200% faster than HD3000. Plus supports OpenCL and DX11.
IB is 22nm while SB is 32nm. IB utilizes newer chipset (qm77 in our case), SB uses old qm67 chipset. IB is faster in handling hardware RAID, SB even lacks some device sleep states.
IB supports up to 2133MT/s RAM. SB supports up to 1866MT/s (but it's known to have graphics artifacts in gaymes), which is pointless for SB anyway because HD3000 is old and slow as fuck

X230 or X230t?

>>61008190
Have you seen it? It's a 2-in-1. It has a keyboard and everything, but for doodling bullshit, it's great. Hand writing notes, too.

>>61008294
if you have to ask then you have no good reason to get the tablet, the tablets suck don't get one

>>61008220
>he doesn't know about www.realtek.com
They hog a lot of cpu (because of js and other bullshit due to their terrible design).
133Mhz sure does have it's limitations.

>>61008213
Since you're shilling 2570p so much.
How much should I pay for one?
>Core i5 3320M, 4GB of RAM, 500 GB HDD, 6 cell battery, probably dead optic drive

>>61008294
Do you need a touchscreen? There you go.

>>61008323
I don't know. Mine (same base config) cost $150 with working optic drive, 65W PSU and extra hdd caddy. But I live in Poland, so prices will be completely different in your country.

>>61008315
>>61008327
I need the fold up screen.

>>61008535
bear in mind it keeps its bulk and still weighs 3.5 lbs

>>61008317
>because of js and other bullshit due to their terrible design
And sadly this is the norm these days.
Even if you used mobile version of the web site, you get poor performance.

Are genuine batteries worth the extra? In Australia they cost around $110. Seems a bit much

>>61008374
The seller is asking for 210$, should I go for it?
Or get X230 with similar specs but 250 GB HDD for 190$?

>>61008588
Is $20 more worth qc cpu, dual drive support and other nice extras available in 2570p?
You ask yourself. If all you do on your laptop is shitpost on /g/ then x230 should be fine for you.

>>61008014

>You can't use full potential of i7-3940xm because 2570p doesn't have 4 dimms and uses max 2 pcie x1 links.

What a sack of shit device that is. Enjoy your Down's keyboard. I don't even know why you people bother coming in /tpg/ when you get your assholes reamed every time you dare say anything. Are you a masochist?

>>61008627
>What a sack of shit device that is.
oh wait, x230 also has only two dimms.
> Enjoy your Down's keyboard.
thanks, I actually enjoy it
>your assholes reamed every time you dare say anything
my power of logical thinking always wins.
Now flee away to your safespace, poor shill.

>>61008614
>qc cpu
Probably won't upgrade it.
>dual drive support
Most likely I won't be use it.
>other nice extras available in 2570p
Like what?

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>>61008627
>being proven wrong this frequently
>moving goalposts this hard

>>61008669
read
>>60991077
are you getting tn x230?
2570p stock tn screen is better than stock tn x230. Either get IPS x230 or get 2570p.

I reinstalled Windows 7 on my T400 and all was well, but after a few updates the built in speakers stopped working. However, I still get sound from the headphone jack and the internal microphone still works. What the hell is going on here?

Alright lads, just got home now and today I've realized I'm missing a lot of portability from my life, I have a huge fucking tower and I don't like carrying it everywhere.

So this friday it is Payday and I'd really like to go out and buy a cheap laptop so I can throw a linux distro on and have it be my productivity machine.

Now I've been checking on Ebay and they have loads on there and I don't know enough about thinkpads to narrow it down.

Any chance you can throw some recomendations my way?

Budget around £200-300. I'm buying used and it doesn't have to be amazing.

>>61008685
>eGPU support
Doesn't X230 do that as well?
And I looked around but couldn't get the needed hardware at decent price.
>non-overheating docking station
I'm interested, elaborate?
>Better speakers
I'll be using headphones.
>overclocking ability
What?
>trackpoint with "tapping" support
WHAT?
>hardware battery charge indicator
That's neat.

>>61007348
Do you know how tapping on touchpad works?
you "tap" the touchpad to left click.
This also works on synaptics trackpoint, but you "tap" the trackpoint instead of touchpad. Lad.

>>61008718
Turn it off, shake it a bit, turn it back on.

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Is this a render or an actual photo? The Lenovo blog that was posted about the retro carried this image.

David Hill confirmed most of the leaks and it sounds like it is a T470 with a different keyboard and maybe different aspect ratio display (new bezel?).

The problem is, look at the image. The T430 had the best chiclet keyboard because even though the layout was changed, the key travel stayed the same. Starting from the xx40 series and beyond, they've been slowly reducing key travel across the board. Now look at this image. Those keys look no deeper than modern chiclet keyboards, even if it is a classic seven row.

This has me worried.

>>61008737
>Doesn't X230 do that as well?
did you read full sentence?
x230 with 16gb ram doesn't work with egpus, unless you reflash bios via hardware SPI flasher with fixed version.
Also you can't just hotplug egpu like a flash drive into x230 or it won't be detected/it will BSOD. In 2570p it's fully hotpluggable and removable without shutting system down.
>I'm interested, elaborate?
thinkpad dock completely covers all cpu inflow vents, so you get extra 10-15C degrees more on CPU
2570p has lots of inflow vents outside of the part blocked by dock. Also dock has bigass hole where the fan is so there is no difference in temp if you dock it.
>What?
You can OC your CPU (including dual cores) via bclk by at least 200MHz. Not much, but it's useful for some people, especially since it also increases RAM frequency (faster gaymuring in iGPU).
>WHAT?
read:
>>61008745

>>61008799
I'm getting more interested in 2570p.
How sturdy it is compared to thinkpad?

>>61008799
>thinkpad dock completely covers all cpu inflow vents, so you get extra 10-15C degrees more on CPU

this isn't true

>>61008798
Seems like a photo.
Also, I see a classic keyboard with a bit less travel and a x250/260 styled trackpad and trackpoint buttons.
It also seems thin, 460 or 460p levels of thinness.

>>61008865

7 row or 6 row keyboard?

>>61008883
Not sure, the photo has focus on the logo and the keyboard is all blurred.

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>>61008850
It is. It's based on personal experience with x230, t420, t430 and t520 with standard 4337 dock.
>>61008839
Similar if not same. x230 palmrest is made of plastic, while 2570p is aluminium. Screen cover is fully alu while x230 is partially plastic (so pic rel happens after some time of carrying the laptop around).
Also x220 screen bezel is known to bend after some time due to heat.

>>61008922
Some elitebooks have this exact same problem. The 8470p comes to mind.

>>61008959
2570p doesn't have this issue. Other elitebooks (except 2170p and 8770w) are not recommended anyway, so who gives a shit.

>>61008978
>not recommending the 2760p
Retard detected.

>>61009004
>randy bridge tablet with shit battery life and lack of actual bezel that you can lay your fingers on when carrying around
no thanks

>>61009015
You've never used one, I see.

>>61009031
No I haven't. Probably because I don't need a 12" PC-class tablet.
I'd consider one just to leave it always on my desk for drawing 2dpd, but sandy bridge anything is a deal breaker for me.
Had x220, I remember overheating of i5-2520m and I don't want this shit again.

>>61009117
The 2760p I have has the exact same processor and it keeps at <50 most of the time.
Great for drawing and note taking btw.

>>61008922
Final question how's GNU/Linux support for it?

>>61009117
>I remember overheating of i5-2520m
What did you do?

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>>61009135
Debian 9.0 just werks. All hotkeys/devices are working OOB.
I don't know if any hp specific software responsible for power management exists for linux, but since I'm getting exact same battery life as under windows 10 I never bothered to play with it further. I'm using Debian only for recovery/hdd dumping purposes only.
And since I'm talking about debian - mine is installed on microsd card. I carry it in expresscard dummy plug (pic rel). 2570p allows you to actually boot straight from sd card slot, unlike x230.

>>61009204
>2570p allows you to actually boot straight from sd card slot
What, Why didn't you mention this earlier?

>>61009153
VM testing. Sometimes it was used as mobile server. Also GPS navigation (processing bigass, very accurate maps = high load). So it was unusable for me.
It doesn't matter what I was doing. Good laptop needs to handle any CPU load without throttling. If you want to use throttling laptops you might want to get the newest macbook air instead. it engages maximum throttle after 10 seconds of rendering.

>>61009204
I prefer my laptops to boot from mSATA, compared with SD card boot.

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>>61008799
>>61008922
nah you're an idiot

just tested an X230 with two 10 minute stress tests on and off the dock and the temperatures were the exact same, around 75-80C

I expected the docked temps to be a little higher (not 10-15C higher) because the side vent looks a little impeded but no, the temps were the exact same in both tests

>>61009333
And I prefer having 6Gbps 2,5" Intel SSD, 2,5" 2TB HDD and WWAN modem instead of mSATA 3Gbps meme.
So as you can see it's a matter of preferences.

>>61009381
>3.1GHz
what is this? low end i5?
>cpu stress test in xtu
kek
now load both CPU and iGPU. You can use CPU-z and GPU-z stress tests. This will give you additional 15W (turbo) or 10W (non-turbo iGPU) of TDP to handle.
Also I'm supposed to believe you it was really docked?
Not like I'm going to say you're lying, but it's just my personal experience is worth much more to me.
Which dock are you using? 4337? Ultrabase? What is the air temperature in your room?

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>posting a filtered /tpg/

Stop doing this.

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>>61009519
>filtering master race laptops
Stop doing this.

>>61009493
i5-3320m
regular 4337 mini dock

why would I lie? I tested it for my own benefit, if I could get 15C less while it's off the dock then damn screw the docks

also what difference would ambient temperature or having the iGPU enabled make? they were constant in both stress tests

>>61009606
>why would I lie?
for the same reason why T430 is shitposting almost every /tpg/ with his abortion of laptop. Advanced buyer's remorse.
>i5-3320m
well I don't know about that. Last time I used x230 with 4337 it was i7-3520m and it was throttling as fuck.
> if I could get 15C less
I wrote 10-15C.
>having the iGPU enabled make?
again, iGPU has rated TDP of 15W in turbo mode. Your entire CPU is rated 35W. Do the math.
Simple answer: BIG.
>what difference would ambient temperature
well if you inserted your laptop into a fridge just to do this test, hmmm. this also makes a big difference?
>they were constant in both stress tests
again, don't use xtu for "stressing" the cpu. It's unreliable.

>>61009674
>why T430 faggot is
fixd

Budget: $1600
Location: Canada
Size: 13-14
Performance: Light gaming (CS:GO)
Other requirements: 1080p, 8+gb memory, perferably PCIe SSD, Thunderbolt if possible

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>>61009674
>again, iGPU has rated TDP of 15W in turbo mode. Your entire CPU is rated 35W. Do the math.
>Simple answer: BIG.

right, however wouldn't that result in higher temperatures both on and off the dock? why would that make the docked test suddenly 10C higher?

>well if you inserted your laptop into a fridge just to do this test, hmmm. this also makes a big difference?

no because it was constant for both stress tests, according to your hypothesis the docked test should still result in higher temperatures

which it didn't, they were the exact same docked and undocked

>again, don't use xtu for "stressing" the cpu. It's unreliable.
this is bullshit

>>61009606
also I want to know what was the fan state during this this stress test. Are you using tpfancontrol?
We both agree that fan spinning at 100% during gayming is not acceptable, do we?

>>61009734
>Budget: $1600
>Performance: Light gaming (CS:GO)
???? you serious?
T470p
>>61009755
>this is bullshit
ok I think we are done here. Do me a favor and google yourself why xtu is shit (and you're a faggot)

>>61009734
>>61009801
Sorry, forgot to ask.
Are people in canada already rioting over C16 "the tranny" bill that recently passed, or did you people like it?

>>61009204
I had a question to ask about 2570p but I forgot it.

>>61009801
you're a dumbass there's nothing wrong with XTU and there has never been anything wrong with it

you're just trying to find excuses to invalidate my test since it proved your blatant lie wrong

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>>61009838
Fun fact: if you ever want to increase your 2570p disk space even more you can use internal (unused) USB 3.0 headers and use one hdd caddy to hold both mSATA SSD and 2,5" HDD.

>>61009903
>USB 3.0 headers
What? you mean all 2570p have USB 3.0?

>>61009869
I asked you to load both iGPU and CPU, because so far you aren't really "stress testing" it. You said it doesn't matter, which makes you look like a retard. And you're not even using the CPU I was using when this 10-15C difference was clearly visible.
So I see no reason to continue this discussion with you. Enjoy your x230. Good bye.

>>61009930
Yes. Two external ports (one USB 3.0 and eSATA combo), one internal via headers. Plus one USB 2.0

>>61009826
Heard some mumbles that it was a stupid law but that's basically it. Nobody really cares.

Personally I don't care either since I don't go out of my way to offend people in public, and if some mentally ill man wants to be called a woman I don't have a problem obliging, but I think it does set a precedent to a dark road in free speech and I'd prefer there to be no hate speech laws at all, because it's getting harder and harder to define what hate speech actually is

tfw no one helped me

y-you t-too

Recently my x1 carbon's memory died. Sucks because the ram is soldered onto the motherboard.

Well I figured I still have half a year warranty out of 3 years - and they actually sent a tech to my house to repair it. So now I have a brand new motherboard with cpu and ram etc on it. Not bad at all.

I always wondered if a warranty case would be honored, because I bought it from some sketchy seller in cash... But lenovo doesn't care about receipts or anything, they just look up the s/n.

Hey guys.
I already asked a while ago but unfortunatley noone responsed so I just ask again:

My current boss is giving us 300€(germany) to spend on some used laptop for travelling.
Since I really dont want to use anything else but my t420 and also dont want to miss the chance to get the money.

So my question is: What can I do to upgrade my current t420.
I already have a SSD,i5 and 8GB RAM.

Anything besinde of eGPU I can spend money on?
New display, new CPU or any special features?

>>61009957
what do you want help with?

>>61009994
here >>61008727

>>61009961
yeah I've heard that the warranty that comes standard in the EU is actually quite good
Saying that, I've also heard it can sometimes take two or three techs to sort out the problem, but nevertheless the problem is eventually sorted

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>>61009955
I thought those are USB 2.0

>>61009936
yeah I'm not stress testing it, I'm comparing the temps on and off the dock

10 minutes is nothing for a real stress test but it's plenty to get the temps up and the cooling system pumping which is all I needed

and the results were;
>thinkpad dock completely covers all cpu inflow vents, so you get extra 10-15C degrees more on CPU
is all entirely false

deal with it

>>61008727
>>61009957
what will you be using it for?
how often will you be transporting it?

>>61009956
Do you consider calling a male with chopped off penis who calls himself "woman" a male or "he" offensive?
>if some mentally ill man wants to be called a woman I don't have a problem obliging
Do you feel like locking people up who refuse to do so in jails and brainwashing them via "special trainings" is even remotely acceptable?

Final question: why are you such a leftist fucking country? I had a colleague once in my company, a canacuck, who was so happy to be there everyday. When he realized people in my country are almost all conservatists he tried to argue with everyone in work how tolerance and socialist is good. When he got repeadetly BTFO'd with actual arguments he started to be depressed. Now he's on sick leave for 4 months already because he actually attempted suicide.
Is this true you people always value more muh emotions over actual truth and logic?

>>61010081
everyday

I'm not to fussed about games I have my tower for that so music and a bit of video editing. If needs be I'll put some money back and add to it next time I get paid.

>>61010028
Upper one is USB 2.0 charging port.
Other one is USB 3.0.
On the right side there is eSATA+USB3.0 combo

>>61010114
*socialism

NEW THREAD!

>>61010262
>>61010262
>>61010262
>>61010262

NEW THREAD!

>>61010114
>Do you consider calling a male with a chopped off penis who calls himself "woman" a male or "he" offensive?
Offense is subjective. If my friend wanted to call a tranny a dude I wouldn't be offended, but I'm sure the tranny would be.

>Do you feel like locking people up...
No, like I said previously I don't agree with the hate speech laws, but I don't entirely give a fuck about them either, not until a legitimate injustice happens under them

>Why are you such a leftist country
Probably because of all the immigrants in the cities. Rural areas are mostly white and conservative leaning, but not as much as the US. Most people here left or right agree that Trump is fucking retarded, and also that you were going to get fucked either way with Hillary or Trump.

The overall atmosphere here is that we don't hate each other, unlike America where you hate everyone and trust no one. So we're more inclined to want better social benefits and equality/rights.

>>61010347
>Offense is subjective.
just like "injustice".
For socialists it's "social justice" if you steal money from hard working people so you can hand it over to rapefugees or homeless/dumb/retarded people.
While "injustice" for them and your government is when people get rich by legally using their talents and sacrificing pleasures just to achieve a higher goal.

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I'm planning on getting rid of my gaming desktop and picking up a ThinkPad Yoga 14

Are touchscreens a meme? I want to get back into graphic design and drawing but should I just get a high quality wacom tablet to worth with instead?

>>61008652

>oh wait, x230 also has only two dimms.

The X230 isn't trying to pack a quad core is it you stupid cunt? Go play with your gimped device somewhere else. Seriously, why even come here, you know damn well its going to be hostile and you're going to be BTFO on every point. Save yourself the asspain in the future.

>>60991058
Guys will Ryzen laptops be a thing? I want a programming work horse with at least 4core 8threads or 6cores 12threads on a laptop. 1080p display and 13inch screen with type c ports. I can dream right?

>>61008798

Mate that's a photo, look at all the micro imperfections, bits of lint, etc.

Does anyone here have any experience with swapping the keyboard on a Thinkpad Yoga 260? Mine broke and I would like to fix it myself instead of having it in the shop for a couple of days, but the only relevant guides/videos I can find are for the previous year's model, where they just pry it off and it comes off easily. I tried that with mine but it just did more damage.

Any help would be appreciated.

>>61010820
You're repeating yourself.
Read:
>>61008678

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>>61010820
>The X230 isn't trying to pack a quad core is it you stupid cunt?
Of course it isn't. Wondering why?
Hmm... maybe because I CAN'T?

Ubu >> Arch >> Gentoo >> Debian
The evolution of all Linux users

>>61011496
Oh ass wrong thread

Another question: Are the replacement parts for X220 and X220T interchangable? Is the chassis/keyboard/battery slice interchangable?

>>61011496
I skipped Gentoo and went straight for the glory of Debian.

How good is Hynix for storage devices? I saw a 256gb mSATA SSD for about $55, but I'm wondering how good they are in the mass storage department.

>>61009576
I don't filter ThinkPads.

>>61008750
I'm tempted to believe it is some sort of driver issue. Because it was sitting on the desk when this problem occurred. But I'll give that a try.

>>61008798
More than the keyboard style needs to change in order for this to equal the older models in terms of functionality. Where is the UltraBay? And muh 7th row?

>>61009965
I believe there is a sandybridge CPU mod but idk how much it costs or how difficult it is
Get a (nice) HDD/SSD caddy for your CD drive, and a usb 3.0 expresscard port, or the eGPU idea
Other than that idk