/cyb/ + /sec/ general: cyberpunk and cybersecurity: warcarting edition

https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt

>>60979908
Well, I'll be adding that to the pasta also.
Thank you, anon.

FAQ Incomiming...

Version 5 preview 1 of the alt.cyberpunk FAQ


https://pastebin.com/Ziit3aa1

Feedback and additions are welcome.

>>60979974
I'll remember that.
Thank you too, anon.

This OP is great.

>>60980025
Thank you, anon.

>>60979974
>>60980010
Good work.
I, for one, appreciate it.

>>60980015
It is hugely updated - the bit rot was impressive and sadly many good archives have been lost since they used a robots.txt file.

I am missing info on the old days like the Future Culture mailing list and Andy Hawkes.

It is a preview so I set the lifetime to one month. Further updates will come.

I am off to bed (Euro-dude here) but will be back in about 9 hours.

>>60980042
Thanks

>>60980084
>>60980095
I'll still add it to the pasta, for now.

The web browser project have plans for improving the security
>>60979055
>>60979596
>>60979716
>>60980158

Anyone have experience with nftables? Our security firm is moving over to Debian Stretch in 2 weeks and plan on using nftables instead of iptables.

(Used to use MacOS/CentOS)

>>60980291
I hope /g/ completes the first release of the browser.

>>60979833
Why are most penetration testing publications keyed toward solely Kali?

>>60979833
>>>Harden your OS, reroute your DNS and fire up the VPN - shit just got real
>The Network of Global Corporate Control: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025995
Check these
https://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/03/gchq_duncan_campbell/
https://web.archive.org/web/20150509144545/http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/01/encryption-wont-work-if-it-has-a-back-door-only-the-good-guys-have-keys-to-
https://torrentfreak.com/microsoft-patents-technology-to-block-pirated-content-track-repeat-offenders-170505/
https://arstechnica.com/apple/2007/08/aacs-tentacles/
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/26/way-gchq-obliterated-guardians-laptops-revealed-intended/
https://boingboing.net/2016/06/15/intel-x86-processors-ship-with.html
http://www.itworld.com/article/2708437/security/ipmi--the-most-dangerous-protocol-you-ve-never-heard-of.html

We definitely need to improve our security.

>>60980809
If these are all as good as they look upon a cursory glance I'll be adding them to the pasta too.
Thank you for sourcing them, anon.
The more information we can pool, the pool thoroughly people will be able to teach themselves from the resources.

>>60980859
The network of corporate control is godtier though, make it apart. Maybe we need to counter with some open source designs for hardware and 3d printers or even open source computer and phones (on the making, but we can dream) to counter surveillance.

>>60980916
I support this wholeheartedly.
Open software isn't good enough, we also need an open hardware movement and not just computers, but as you say, 3D printers.

>>60980916
>>60980986
So, how're we going to go about this?

>>60981764
We find realistic projects to support? I think there was an open source phone called Phoenix. Maybe cyberdecks are closer to development though.

>>60981806
I heard something about the FSFs plans on making a commercial computer (laptop if I remember correctly) for free software, along with a free software BIOS and without the corporate backdoors.

>>60981835
I only found info on cyberdecks
http://www.activewirehead.com/building-a-cyberdeck/
http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-PC-project-inspired-by-Shadowrun-Cyberdec/


Also found a curious underwater drone supposedly made from common parts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenROV

Can't find information about the phone.

Is PowerPC viable in modern day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii82I1IzFRY

wtf guys! what are they planning?

Why Firefox? Why not Icecat? I know it's based off FF, but it has some privacy features.

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>>60980432
Me too. I hope it allows the user more control than current browsers. That and no bot net.

If it's a kick ass browser I'm going to make a moon man sign with a /net/ marque underneath.

>>60981806
We could always contribute toward the development of plans too.

>>60982015
They're still interesting, but there does need to be more interest into this.
Unless everyone always wants to be at the beck and call of corporations.

>>60982105
Agreed, it would be a handy tool.

>>60980432
>>60982105
Me too, and I hope they give more power of the processes underneath unlike other browsers.

>>60982142
I for one want to see someone making a cyberdeck that is affordable and functional.

>>60982195
Now I know how to make my millions.

>>60982156
A true GNU/Linux mindset.

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We're living in a cyberpunk society RIGHT NOW and most people don't know it

A few years ago I skimmed through some of those books about buffer overflows shell coding reverse engineering and so on. But I saw that they no longer worked on modern systems because of all the new hardening techniques like address randomization and memory protections. And so I thought that it wouldnt be a good use of time to study further. Now it seems the frequency is increasing of huge major vulns are being made public and Im starting to wonder if I should regret not studying this in depth and also afraid if I start now it would take so much time by the time Im getting up to speed it would be too late.

>>60980713
Because there is nothing else worth using for pentesting.

>>60982283
Jesus Christ.

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>>60982283
I have made this point several times and I don't feel like completely reiterating those points. However, one of the most cyber punk things I have ever seen was a homeless guy browsing the net on his cell phone. Sure, it wasn't in some dark, rainy, neon lit back alley, and on a sunny Saturday, but that doesn't mean it wasn't cyb as fuck.

>>60982283
We certainly are and will only become more obvious as time progresses.

>>60982539
Whilst some of those may no longer work on newer systems, there are always flaws in those systems that can be exploited.
Learning those base blocks and then moving on is the best way to start in the computer security field as it gives you better overall (and someone historical) understanding of the field as a whole.

>>60982560
What about BlackArch and ParrotSec (along with other security research distributions)?

>>60982622
This will become more and more common place. Besides, it might not've been immediately as /cyber/ as you would've hoped, it will become more so (as I said above).
Certainly as advertisement evolves ever more grandiose methods of attention grabbing.
Just look at cities like Tokyo, Vegas; Seoul and Beijing (to name a few).

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what are some good cyberpunk anime?
I've watched lain and thought it was really good

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>>60982842
Akira!
One of the most pre-eminent examples of cyberpunk in the anime/manga culture.
>It is also really entertaining and a personal favourite.

>>60980809
Anyone interested in creating an install script for hardened Arch with runit instead of systemd and all the daily use / dev / pentesting packages preinstalled with me?

>>60983056
You mean BlackArch, but without systemd?

>>60982842
I think very highly of Ghost in the shell, but at this point who hasn't watched the 1995 movie at the very least ?

Texhnolyze

and maybe to a lesser extent
Sunabouzu and Red Line the movie

>>60983238
>>60982886
haha, i've watched both of those as well!
Although I was quite under the influence while watching akira! I thought it was phenomenal and want to watch it more sober. I've only seen the first ghost in shell. Is the second one worthwhile?

>>60983386
>Akira is phenomenal
You've good taste, anon.

>>60979833
actually good thread this time pls

>>60983386
>I've only seen the first ghost in shell. Is the second one worthwhile
Ghost in the shell spans several movies and has multiple seasons.

The movies and tv episodes range in their quality, I would say none of them are poor, but some are better than others.
The second movie largely gets passed over by many people as it doesn't hold well against the substance in the first movie, you've got nothing to lose by watching the second movie and/or everything else

There is a thread on /t/ for ghost in the shell
>>>/t/735460

>>60983473
You do know it is these type of replies that normally set off the shitposting, right?

>>60983482
no

why can't I ask for a good thread

>>60983482
Lets talk about happier things, if you know what I mean.

>>60979833
Is full disk encryion including /boot enough or should I put a bios password aswell? Is linux-libre-hardened almost as good as linux-libre-grsec which is gone now?

>>60983586
bios password is a must and i can not speak for you other question

>>60983931
Now I have to reflash libreboot again.

>>60982828
How do you learn these basic building blocks when the books no longer work on modern systems? What I mean is that I couldnt even run the basic examples on a modern system. I have some old Debian 6 and CentOS 5 isos laying around but I dont think the examples from the books will even run on them.

eye doctor keeps telling me my retinas are going to detach if my vision keeps getting worse. do you think cybernetic implants without networking capabilities are just a pipe dream? i don't want my eyes getting hacked if i spend $100k on them. and i KNOW that they're going to want to have "automatic updates" and all kinds of bullshit streaming live to your implants. we need GNU implants

I guess it was either this thread or /sqt/ but,
I need a new U.S based VPN that isn't a major provider so I can still use certain websites and services that block major VPN providers.
What do?

I have relevant questions too. I've found a couple mail providers and want to know your opinion:
>Teknik
>cock.li
>ProtonMail

How would you categorize in levels of security? In the case of Teknik, do you think is secure enough to use its services? Who is the people behind teknik.io? Who is behind cock.li? Who is the people behind ProtonMail?

>>60984408
lavabit

>>60984408
have you considered go ogling these questions

the admin of cock.li is a wanted criminal and escaped from the US to Romania after being pursued by the FBI after he sent a chemical weapons threat to an entire school district in LA. he also was a heavily armed militia member. his server was hosted in Germany, and got raided by the German feds. twice.

>>60984438
nice

>>60982842
Patlabor

>>60982283
Agree on this man.

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It's good to see a general on /g/ with actual information like this. Lainchan is impressed.

>>60982050
>what are they planning?
Umm, good coverage on multiple bands in multiple sectors, possibly by multiple carriers perhaps?

Fast mobile internet access does not come from a simple whip antenna.

The comments in that YouTube video is loaded to the brim with garbage. Like using Geiger counters to measure RF signals.

> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/rnc-data-198-million-american-voters,34827.html

gg america lol

>>60986467
When will they start handling their data properly?

>>60980291
All of this is pure uncontained stupidity and ignorance. That makes no fucking sense and does not even begin to address real world security problems.

>use top-tier crypto
>not used by big players
Does this fuckhead even understand how encryption on the Internet works ? Is he going to create his own shitty protocol and ask everyone to support it with TLS ?

What have they done to mitigate exploits ? Nothing is isolated, they want to make an HTML parser and a JavaScript engine but don't know fuck about how to secure them.

This project is a huge fucking joke made by people who don't know how a browser is made.

>>60983056
Why not spend the time to contribute to Devuan instead? There is no need for unstable/bleeding edge software when there is a focus on security.

>>60986789
>Is he going to create his own shitty protocol and ask everyone to support it with TLS ?
He never said that. It is perfectly possible to use alternative protocols developed in, say, credible academic circles. And preferably outside the US and UK.

Your outburst relies on top tier being a title bestowed by the big players. That is tragically naive.

>>60983386
Stand alone complex is the next best thing after the 1995 movie and it's a good halfway between the manga and movie

>>60983991
You set up your own lab, many of them cover this, so you can train yourself in whatever exploit without having to actually break the law.

>>60984257
Don't use a U.S based provider as they'll give up on a drop of a pin and I doubt any of them don't keep logs.

>>60985640
We'd like to see the return of classic Lainchan and the Lainzine.

>>60986789
Read again, the plan is reusing a js engine not creating one from scratch.

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What is an email provider you guys use? I am sure you have to communicate in some way while keeping secure.

>>60990281
I'm not sure if Protonmail still requires JavaScript?
But it used to be pretty useful.

>>60982842
The dot Hack franchise has a lot of virtual world action you might like.

Also Dennou Coil is about hacking an overlaid virtual reality but many disagree with my view.

>>60983502
To make something good, be it a thread or the entire America, you cannot just *ask* and think that will be it. Instead it takes an effort and you will have to join in on it and on your contribution too make it great.

That is all.

>>60983991
>What I mean is that I couldnt even run the basic examples on a modern system.
There are distributions purposefully riddled with holes for such training.
https://lwn.net/Distributions/#secure

>>60984257
As >>60989002 said don't use US based provider
There others like Mullvad, AirVpn, Torvpn

>>60990812
Yes, it does

>>60983991
You can build without aslr enabled, but you might as well learn it, and you should be roping now anyways
None of these are insurmountable to learn, just write a simple test project with it enabled, and add a info disclosure to get your base address

>>60992747
That's a shame.

>>60982828
parrot OS is for 1337 haxors with the neon blue stuff. Kali just werks and offensive security has many certifications and guides. There's a reason Kali is used most in Labs and Universities.

Anyone get the Kali freeze where you boot into desktop and don't know what to do, like what to play around with? Not a noob at all but struggle with practical hands on stuff that I can actually learn from

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>>60982283
Will bring a few racks of miners online next week. Bought a retired super computer for cpu mining.

>1000 bl465 g7
>2000 opteron 6276s
>$80k

>>60993925
stop using Kali Linux noob.

>>60994067
If you actually have 80k$ to spend on stuff and a place like that to store stuff do you even need to mine cryptocurrency?

>>60979833
Was this based on that nigger from Lain?

>>60994226
Well, its an easy $60k month.

>>60994492
I'll take it. Also, where does that happen to be? In some underground bunker?

What's a good password manager? Preferably one for android if at all possible. I currently have a password protected text file which has a rng password only I know, and then all my passwords are written down encrypted with a ceasar cipher, the key to which only I know also. If there's something a little easier that's still safe I'd like to just use that, plus then it'd be mobile

>>60994544
Yeah, bought it on a government auction, decommissioned cold war air command center.

>>60994560
So you're that bunker anon from /diy/ I found while randomly browsing that board some months (year?) ago? Fuck, man, really loved your work. Aside from that what other cool things have you done there? Did you get a datacenter going or still plan to get it?

>>60994544
Where does one even get a bunker for cheap?

>>60994619
He actually got it pretty cheap I believe, for about 200k$ if I recall correctly.

>>60994619
One doesn't.

>>60994492
where do you sell that amount of bitcoins

Reminder that certs are for slow brain IT retards and real security fields don't have any

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>>60994602
Turning on power next week. 2mw.

>>60994619
They put up military properties here for auction.

http://www.fortv.se/sv/FASTIGHETER-TILL-SALU/Fastigheter-till-salu/

Sometimes there are bunkers.

>>60994714
Just spread it out on Kraken and Bitstamp.

>>60995008
How do you have so much disposable income?

>>60995008
What is that thing on the left? And do you have some close-ups?

>>60994492
Minus electricity costs?

>>60994067
Wait wait, you are bunkeranon from /diy/?

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>>60979833
Computer and Network Security major here. Probably one of the only Bachelor of Science degree programs in the area.

>>60995446
Cool?

>>60994897
Mine actually does. CISSP and CEH.

>>60995458
I suppose

>>60995460
Wrong, those are both skid certs.

>>60995433
>>60995008
I see you actually are. Fuuuuuck, I searched you a few days ago on /diy/ how is it going? I think my last update was a month or two ago. I didn't know you were into this stuff too.

>>60995472
Even still, my university offers certificates in Digital Evidence Discovery and Digital Evidence Investigation.

>>60994559
Google is your friend. I use one but if I tell you what it is, I'll probably get heat for it since "durr it's not teh best one"

Sorry for being hyped like a little girl, but bunker anon is fucking cool, and now I realize, is the most /cyb/ we will have in a while at his level.

>>60995513
Ok? Call me back when they have one for writing a hypervisor for fuzzing, or reverse engineering

>>60990281
https://www.techjunkie.com/most-secure-email-providers/

ProtonMail seems to be their numero uno pick

>>60995552
I'm sorry, is this the /cyb/ general or the engineering autist general?

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>>60995460
>CEH

>>60995528
Yes he is, I got pretty happy too as I saw the first picture he posted.

>>60995008
That is definitely badass

>>60995602
And what do you do for a living? What is your field of work or study?

>>60995602
I realized almost instantly like "wait, that kind of walls. . ."

Also, bunkerbro, if you don't mind, a friend of mine told me your CPUs are not very eficient (115W each one)

What are you going to do to improve the profit or decrease the consume?

>>60995598
Are you implying those aren't security? They are more security than anything you've ever worked on lmao

>>60995264
Electricity in .se is cheap, that is why Facebook placed a gigantic data centre there.

>>60995674
I've never fucking used a hypervisor. Nor would I likely need to. But you should mind yours, kiddo. http://www.securityweek.com/black-hat-mind-your-hypervisors-says-security-researcher

new to cybersec, dont know where to start with security. Anyone give me suggestions for zoning in on cybersec? I dont know anything about securing computers, networks, how to keep logs etc.

>>60995762
https://pastebin.com/raw/0AjC2mcD

>>60995757
Lmfao you're a retard don't speak to me
Hypervisors in security are used for quickly setting the state of a VM for fuzzing
Do you even know what fuzzing is? Have you even written a ROP chain? Do you even know what a null pointer dereference is, or why it's no longer exploitable? Or even what it was originally used for? Do you know what the IRQL is, or what register it's stored in? How about bit 16 in cr0?
You're right though, cissp and ceh means you're a hacker

>>60995008
Goddammit Sweden.

>>60995829
>have you ever used all of these things that I googled while you were away for a few minutes to sound intelligent?

I never said I was a hacker. Those are some certs though that are somewhat relevant in the cybersecurity world. Clearly, you don't work in cyber security nor even have a legitimate job.

You ask stupid fucking questions that have no relevance and just start shit with anyone who questions your credibility.

>>60995626
What I do for a living is none of your concern, are you trying to just change the subject into "lol you're not even working for an InfoSec-related company"? Because it really looks like it. You're just trying to turn this into a "you don't prove you have a degree unlike me then you've automatically lost". As opposed to you I mind my privacy, which reminds me, why are you even tripfagging in this general to boot? Fuck off.

>>60995777
Also helping retards who can't even look at the fucking OP, leave this place, really. We were fine without a fucktard like you.

>>60995893
Again, proving you have no idea about security
Those certs aren't relevant, just like you
Find your first 0day and you can post in this thread again, every single one of those things I mentioned are extremely relevant to security and ANYONE in this field should have at least an idea about them

>>60995893
Called it in >>60995919, fuck off already.

>>60995983
And you stop shilling your fucking board already you piece of shit.

>>60996010
Fucking just kill yourself, you autist
You're clearly a NEET fatass neckbeard that has NO JOB or works at Geek Squad selling protection plans. I'm lmaoing at your life right now

>>60995983
Create a security board please, anon.

>>60996021
You're the kind of retard that goes to defcon, aren't you?

>>60996078
Never been

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>>60995130
MTU diesel genset, one of two to keep the lights on if the power goes.

>>60995264
$8k/m for 140kw. Already subtracted.

>>60995433
Yes.

>>60995644
Power is cheap, and heat is not a problem, if anything its a plus. What I wanted was cheap l3 cache.

>>60996021
Of course you're the only professional here, a certified one even! Everyone that doesn't tripfag and prove that they have a degree in cybersecurity and networking™ or other related degrees is a LOSER that has NO JOB. Privacy? Why would anyone ever want that, right?

>>60996078
Nothing wrong with going to cons though.

>>60996130
So you're just confronting the "lack" of performance straight? I told them you probably will get electricity cheaper and/or making your own from that generators you got time ago and that you're turning on this week.

>>60996114
You'd fit in with all the skids who have absolutely no computer knowledge
Grab a utilitkilt and a pineapple
>>60996134
There's nothing wrong with going to good cons, defcon is a shitshow full of self proclaimed security professional, whose security experience entails running an iptables script
There are definitely good conventions, schmoocon, infiltrate, recon, but defcon is not one of them

>>60996134
Who said I held a CEH cert? Lol I have more privacy than practically any one of you here right now. Are you just assblasted by the tripcode? If so then I can remove it and we can ALL be fucking "anonymouse"

>>60984117
>eye doctor keeps telling me my retinas are going to detach if my vision keeps getting worse.
Things like that happens but thankfully they have ways to repair that. A friends of mine had this problem.

>do you think cybernetic implants without networking capabilities are just a pipe dream?
No pipe dream, there are several projects about this, ref. the FAQ. Neuroelectric interfaces are still not quite there yet. Alternatives like the tongue sensor work but resolution is not good. I would not drop the operation and hope these will mature tomorrow. Then again you can always use the tongue system and close your eyes no matter the state of your ocular vision. You could even feed in alternative data such as infrared, thermal infrared, acoustics, ultrasounds and more.

>i don't want my eyes getting hacked if i spend $100k on them.
Are you thinking of the cost of the operations?

>and i KNOW that they're going to want to have "automatic updates" and all kinds of bullshit streaming live to your implants.
Personally I would hesitate to have any medical implants networked.

>we need GNU implants
Judging by the speed of development of HURD that could take a LONG time. Judging by the progress of Redox-OS others will get there first.

>>60996233
>I have more privacy than practically any one of you here right now
Of course you do, whose your favorite WWE wrestler, do you still watch kaceytron?

>>60996174
>have no computer knowledge
Okay kid, whatever you say. This is why 4chan and /g/ is dead. Fucking went from being a good board with good content to a place where idiots post Japanese watches and bitch and moan about the smallest shit.

>>60996263
>oh wow he looked my tripcode up on Twitch
Hackerman.

>>60996130 see >>60995039.

>>60996174
Thought you were just against all cons, yeah that's true, or at least what it feels from looking at twitter whenever they come by, since I've actually never been there.

>>60996233
Even when you remove the tripcode, you're just a faggot pretending to have knowledge.

>>60996270
No, people like you is what made it fucking shit.

>>60996300
Why do you even care?

>>60996279
That means, by definition, you are less private than us. You tied an identity to yourself

Why there's always some kind of beef betweem people trying to reach their "skill"? Seems like a useless ego fight for me and only derails the thread (less some specific posts)

>>60996325
Nah, these fucking generals are what made it shit, you nigger. Someone asked you a general question of how you have so much disposable income and you're being a dick about it. No one cares that you went on InfoWars and bought some fucking water filters and a bunker, dude.

>>60996387
Because these people here are jealous and mad little whiny nerd cucks that will never be successful and life and they come on /g/ and spend about 15 hours a day on here doing nothing productive. Creating no new memories in life. Doing nothing important. Meeting no new people.

They're unhappy as shit, obviously.

>>60996370
Then who am I, hackerman?

>>60996450
But you're part of the problem with that kind of statements, imo.

>>60996465
I'm actually not. I'm in my mid twenties trying to advance my career and better myself as a person and get hated on for it and interrogated by some aspie who sperged out when he saw the fucking tripcode.

>>60996463
Zack calloway

>>60996505
Aye, I wasn't meaning that, sorry for the confusion.

I mean, if you go here and there "he seems like" or "it came to do X because it's Y" you only feed them, being true your statement or not. And I fully understand you because I hate to just not reply when I know someone is not right about me, but in this kind of situations we only waste posts in this thread, that if you ask me, is one of the few that remains good in /g/.

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>>60996505
Vuln reseach, sec major and bunkerfag, please stop shitting up the thread.

Bunkerfag, don't be a faggot. If you don't want to tell, just lie.
No one cares that you cook meth.

>>60996428
Do you not think asking people about how they get money is offensive in the sense it's attempting to get information from them? o-oh wait (>>60995626), just so your autistic retarded ass knows, it is offensive. But you didn't know of course, as it was proven with just https://pastebin.com/3LbZwhwT. The guy you argued with might have been a retard, but you were just provoking him because you just wanted to shove your title up his ass. You have the attitude of a fucking moron.

>>60996505
You think the issue was the tripcode? Everyone who claims they know shit when they don't gets taken down here, retard. But don't worry, I really bet you will make a really great whitehat ethical pentester once you get your cool h4ck3r certificates.

I'll stop here as to not shit up the thread more, but as a last statement, you're a complete fucking retard, fuck off this place.

>>60996699
I answered for him, I'm not him.

>>60996543
Nope

if there are any vets on here that want free cybersecurity training - check out fedVTE - they give free online training to any veterans that have a dd214.....

>>60996730
tl;dr

>>60996755
It's okay champ, we both know it's you, you can give it up now

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>>60996730

>>60996772
Lol you think my name is Zach. That's cute. What else do you assume?

>>60996841
You just misspelled your own name.

>>60996907
That didn't answer my question.

>>60996841
Lmao you went to devry

>>60996931
Also wrong.

>>60996755
>>60996772
>>60996841
>>60996907
>>60996929
>>60996931
>>60996939
Stop shitting up the thread.
I'd rather we didn't hit the bump limit because of two faggots arguing.

>>60996977
Don't test me.

>>60997002
Shut the fuck up, both of you.

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>>60997042

>>60996939
Sorry, you're right, I was looking at the wrong company, Chris
Your seo game is bad

>>60997126
Stop shitting the fucking thread up!
Chris, don't reply to him.

>>60996130
monero?

>>60997253
Which cryptocurrencies are worth investing in?

>>60998063
At time, Eth, if you want to mine.

But you have to jump in NOW, 480 from AMD already reached 600$ and 800$

>>60998143
I've heard that Bitcoin us going to devalue soon?

>>60998200
Theorically, it is at its highest point, so it can be.

But now is worth 3k$ iirc, so we will see. Eth is only at 400$ and it is ONLY GPU minable.

>>60998063
ETH RIGHT NOW.
I mean 5 minutes ago!
It is constantly rising in price because of hype.
The hype will die down eventually but the price will STILL stabilize exactly like Bitcoin did years back when it exploded.
Don't wait until months from now, or even next week, get it ASAP.

Even if you only put a little amount in, it WILL go up. There is no doubt about it. It is a matter of where it will go to.
ETH is looking to become the next big thing and will most likely overtake BTC because of how it works.
If I remember correct, this year alone it has went up over 4000% in price.
You were already too late, but you can STILL make something off it if you get in as soon as you can.

>>60998356
Aye, as this anon says. I'm going to a pool where they pay at 0.1, then keep a backup and wait for the raise. Eventually, when I have nothing to do, if difficulty doesn't explode like BTC, I will try to scrap lil by lil.

>>60998309
>>60998356
>>60998387
I need to look in to getting into this now, don't I?

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>>60998356
Gonna put $40 in it.

Godspeed to the rest of you investors, I am truly excited to see something being developed on the Ethereum platform.

>>60982842
ghost in the shell, texhnolyze, cyber city oedo, goku midnight eye, appleseed, a.d. police, parasite dolls, armitage iii, vexille, psycho pass, freedom, cyborg 009... couple others just can't think of any now

speaking of security, what's the update on ekansova?

>>60999145
**i mean ekansovi. someone linked and old thread about people saying it tracks people on 4chan. look in your cookies

>>60998664
This is a good list.

>>60982886
Akira was so fucking boring. It had stellar animation but it was unbelievably a snore fest.

What is the current best tool for vulnerability assessment? Metasploit?

>>60995983
>>60996010
>>60996060
Why are you fellas posting on /g/? Cyberpunk is literature.

>>61000318
It is a subculture and a general term for a certain 'aesthetic'.

>>61000318
>>61000355
Also, it would help if you actually read the OP; which tells you exactly what cyberpunk is (in this context).

>>60995575
>ProtonMail
>javascript needed
>no IMAP/SMTP/POP3

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>https://pastebin.com/3LbZwhwT
kek, this brainforc3 tripfag is truly brain damaged.
"cybersecurity major" my ass, I bet you went to a community college. There is no such a major in any respectable university (read: top 20 in world) so your degree is as worthless as your existence.
Do you even have a published CVE?

mc-fucking-killyourself.

lulz

>>61000719
Oi, OP here, as funny and sad as his lies are, can you stop shitting up the thread and bully him elsewhere?

>>61000749
just making sure that the highschooler fucks off back to /b/ or something :^)

>>61000787
You got his dox, right?
Bully him on his Twitter, or whatever other social media the retard still uses.

>>60982842
Ergo Proxy

>>61000829
I didn't know about this one, thanks.

>>61000719
You bully tripfag but he blow the cover of a pretender in that pastebin.

Are you that guy and is that why you are posting?

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Are motorcycles the true cyberpunk choice?

Not just aesthetically but with self driving cars on the rise, things like lanesplitting will get much much easier. Even now in the most congested metros like NYC or SF you can ride right down the center and weave easily through traffic. If Google Maps gives you an estimate of 20 minutes you can easily cut it down to 10 on a bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1dciknKdmg

>>61000940
pretty sure lanesplitting is illegal in every state but california

>>61000953
California is such a shitty place, well Southern California.

So, I'd like to print some shit out without being tracked, and I have a dot matrix printer available to me. Do these have the whole steganography tracking thing? I don't know the exact model number, but it's clearly manufactured by Star, it's a 24-needle, and it's from 1992.

>>61000925
That looks like the chat of some stupid messaging app, and
>blow the cover of a pretender
All he did was brag about his title, while the other guy was just stupid. Also you actually do Java and PHP courses in computer engineering, the guy could've been a computer engineer student with really horrible english and drunk (I know they exist because I know them personally). The tripfag just has an ego bigger than his brain.

>>61000953
Well it's not in my country.

is there any way to verify if a vpn does any of the things it says it does or not?

Any recs for secure voice chat? I'm already looking into some, but I'd like some extra input before I start using any.

>>61001618
Mumble.

>>61001661
Thanks, completely forgot it existed.

>>61001618

mumble-us.cleanvoice.ru port: 50688

What would happen if we try to have an "unpopula opinion" section right now? We're smart enough to argue and to share that kind of points proving them (if someone says "no") and I think we're non retarded enough to not derail it from the /cyb/ + /sec/ topic.

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Whats the official font of cyberpunk?

>>61000940
Eh. Too much risk for my meatbag but it is an aesthetically pleasing mode of transportation

When the self driving motorcycles come, they will be the ultimate cyberpunk throne

>>61003773
Agreed.

>>61000318
You didn't read the FAQ, right?

>https://pastebin.com/Ziit3aa1

>>60998063
mehh, what I mean is bunker anon mining. only monero needs that lot of cache.
cryptonight algorithm needs 2MB of very fast memory to mine properly. this is the reason why cpus is 1:1 vs gpu on cryptonight mining.

>>60994067
Pretty impressive scale of operations you have got there. A retired supercomputer in a retired command bunker is hard to top.

How long will the mining market make this setup cost effective? I guess even with the cheap electricity in .se the cost of electricity per coin will increase over time.

>>60982842
This paste lists a lot of recommended animes with Cyberpunk themes
https://pastebin.com/PPueAapP

>>61005844
Another good list.

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Got the zsun wifi today. Can't wait to put on piratebox and share some files at uni. Don't know how much it will be utilised but I like the idea of people requesting textbooks and filling them myself or by someone else. It has an image board built in as well. Pretty good for $7 and with openwrt support.

>>61006297
That's quite a nice purchase, too bad you can't pirate it.

whats it like working in cyber security?

im thinking about applying to a couple of apprenticeships, one of them in the nuclear sector. have zero coding experience

>>61007515
how do you get on cybersec? I'm already studying IT and I want to get on something like that?

>>61007859
Most companies now are looking for candidates to have some kind of degree in cyber security most universities offer one now

>>61007901
I always find the cases of unqualified, but simply skilled hackers getting hired by governments and companies for their 'past' crimes quite interesting.

>>61008697
There are rumours of such rough and tumble countries where they recruit arrested hackers who get a choice of working for them or a quiet bullet in the back.

Strangely they have no problems in recruiting people.

=== /cyb/ news
>BBC - Capital - How long will it take for your job to be automated?
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170619-how-long-will-it-take-for-your-job-to-be-automated
>The world is widely considered to be on the cusp of a fourth industrial revolution – one where machines will be able to do many of the jobs currently performed by humans, and perhaps even do them better. It is a future that promises greater efficiency and cheaper services, but one that also could herald widespread job losses.

>It raises a troubling question for all of us – when will a machine be able to do my job?

>>61008757
That must be an interesting experience.

>>60998356
Eth is not overtaking BTC, its actually tanking since Segwit is now a go on BTC.

For mining profitability but ETH or a shit coin is probably more profitable for smaller outfits like bunkerbro compared to BTC. But electricity cheap so sure he has it all worked out.

How's the tavern indoor lake bunker coming along btw? Haven't ventured DIY in awhile.

>>60987110
simple reason: OpenRC is slow.
>>60983130
would enjoy using that UI? I certainly wouldn't, so it seems a bit bloated to me, but I don't know the rest of it's defaults. Basically the idea is to create a simple install script, since our systems are probably very similar anyway. So instead of ricing we can do cool projects

What resource would you recommend for learning how to find and write exploits?
Something that includes historical examples (even if they are patched by now) would be nice.

>>61009835
Perhaps check the resources there's plenty of them there?

>>61010827
Why don't people check the OP before posting?

>>61011119
Because they're stupid and their future is doomed to fail.

>>61011446
I've noticed also that very few people seem to not check the sticky or the wiki within it as that normally offers a solution to their /g/ related problem.

>>61011119
I did and there are 20 or so resources scattered about.
I can't work through them all.
I was asking what YOU personally recommend.
Which book/website/tutorial do you think is the best?
Also the OP is really sparse and unorganized. Just dumping everything into a big list is a shit.

>>61013158
You can work through them all. Try one, if you don't like it, go to another, do I really have to explain you how learning stuff works?

>>61013158
As OP, what is my role?
Starting the thread.
Making sure the content is good.
We, as a community have already sourced all of this information for you and offered it to you as a vast amount of resources.
Yet, you still want me to spoonfeed the whole lot to you?
This is the problem with our generation, we're too lazy. It is the reason you expect me to spoonfeed it to you.
If you want to learn, the onus is upon you, I've already given you the resources (as is my role as OP).
Don't expect more than that.

>>61013158
Also:
>20 is sparse
>Hasn't even read 1 yet
You really like to fill your plate, eh?
Not to mention:
>or so
That sure sounds like a really thorough search.

whats more fun, the technologist or analyst side

>>61013860
Fun is subjective.

Since we have a bit of /sec/ here, how many of you have checked for the ekansovi mess?

This will get ugly.

>>61013977
It doesn't show up for me in Ublock guess I'm safe

>>61000619
from what I understand, the js is needed to secure the mailboxes, and the reason that IMAP/POP3 aren't supported yet is because the client pulls plain text or HTML so it can't decrypt the emails locally. But I'm probably very wrong

>>61013977
Some analysis from someone in #/g/sec, censored names for obvious reasons. https://hastebin.com/cefatamolu.xml (it's not actually an .xml file).

does running IDS like snort on personal machine makes sense?

Server side email security is a joke. Use any with Thunderbird and pgp

>>61013977
I don't know it. What happened?

>>61014546
So, it is just more corporate tracking for ads?
Wunderbar, /pol/ talking shit once again.

>>61014647
You should always use PGP or GPG for communications and files.

>>61003722
Tamsyn http://www.fial.com/~scott/tamsyn-font/

>>61015551
>http://www.fial.com/~scott/tamsyn-font/
Mhm, that's a nice font.

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>>61008774

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>>61013489
We should give a hand to OP and stop complaining :^)

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>>61008774
>tfw therapist
>tfw pretty much 0% chance of my job being automated anytime soon

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>>61016082
Therapists will be the first to go once robot waifus are developed.

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Are RATS still a thing? I remember in 2011 or so it was all the rage. Also do you guys know of any communities that are more discussion and information oriented? This board is nice but at times it seems 50% or more of the posts are about graphics cards or phones or linux. Technology is was more than just that.

>>61016180
But what about real (good) women?

Faggot. You have gone too far. Fuck with me cunt and your try hard digital life is over. I deal with fuckers like you and crush them.

Firstly, retard if you actually had a brain you would know that I am a forensic investigator who has caught over $78m worth of Cyberscammers and now almost 200 cyberstalkers and almost equally cybercriminals. I've been programming since you've been taking milk from your Mum's breast, so that's 28 years and have more skill in my small toe than you have I'm your whole body (including that tiny dick on your head).

Secondly uneducated kiddie, try me amateur. You hopeless amateur. Within 24 hours I will own you, and you will see what kind of man who you're fucking with. 1 word and if your IP of which I've captured goes anywhere near me you will have a pleasant surprise. Learn your lesson junior. Don't fuck with a expert reverse software engineer forensic expert you kiddle because I fucken chew up hackers and spit them out.

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>https://retrotech.eu/netrunner/
>/cyb/ browser
>/cyb/ website

>>61017781
S T E P
T
E
P

>>61017827
Holy shit, dude, you just blew my mind.

just found out that I'm getting moved to. /cyb/ security team at a hospital with 5000+ employees. It feels good lads.

>>61018350
Have fun, keep us informed.

>>61018385
I will. I already know 3 plus security holes by working part time there while in college. Healthcare is fucked beyond comprehension. Hopefully I can do some good when I get promoted.

>>61018436
Hows the pay?

>>61018436
How much room for advancement is there?

>>60998430
No. This is the worst time to get in. Unless you have a miner (which will cost you tens of thousands for a good one), you will not make a cent.

>>61016082
You are not going to lose your job to a robot, but you WILL lose your job to outsourcing. All over, tele-care is being used not in psych clinics. Enjoy your job being stolen by a pooloo doctor that shits in the same street he films from when in a patient appointment.

>>61019622
*used a lot

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>>61003722
Fullwidth Times New Roman.

>>60984438
pretty /cyb/ as fuck my gee mcgee

>tfw reading autists sperg out over stupid shit from a day ago
wew lads since when did /cyb/ + /sec/ get filled with autistic neckbeards and faggot redditors?

>>60988074
Secure encryption algorithms created by "credible academic circles" are already used widely, take chacha20 or keccak for example.

>>60990281
If you do not want to leak metadata (who receives the message) you should either
1: not use email
2: self-host and make sure that the other guy self-hosts, then use onion or something to send the mail

Also, make sure you use something like OpenPGP.

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Got my security tag set up.

Had to go into the branch to order it then back again to set it up once it arrived.
Teller had no idea how to set it up, "I'll just google it real quick". Spoke to a manager and he knew what he was doing.

>Lol just use your phone

>>61013489
>As OP, what is my role?
Compiling the inputs/contributions would be nice. You have done quite a bit which is appreciated. How far back in time did you go?

>>61016451
>Are RATS still a thing?
No idea, first time I hear about it. What more can you tell?

>>61017087
>But what about real (good) women?
Mythological, surely.

>>61019874
Agreed.

>>61003722
Courier. Because Johnny Mnemonic.

>>61021646
Can someone recommend me a good, versatile hardware token for less than $50?

>>61003722
Depends on how punk you go. If you go full PUNK, comic sans probably.

>>61023193
Not a bad font.

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Where can I get a legitimate copy of the TrueCrypt 7.1?

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>>61024873

>>60984408
Proton is swiss based which means no EU/US regulations or agreements.

They also started a new service ProtonVPN both free and paid avail.
Free - 3 countries, low speeds
Paid - multiple countries and no speed limits aside from latency and your internet speed itself.

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>>61024873

>>61024873
>>61024928
>>61025051
Just use VeraCrypt?

>>61024873
I have a copy I got from their website before the devs got asassinated by the CIA, ao if you trust some random asshole on the internet then here it is
mega . nz/#!pvgXiR7a!kdsa1yQSKcVZzdidh
DHxHNdw1u2Ur9AM3deG05jn6sQ

>>61026267
Are you a 'secret' CIA or NSA plant?
If so, why do the intelligence community go to such lengths to watch 4chanfags?

>>61026267
>>61025762
>>61027016
Why was truecrypt shut down anyways?

>>61027046
Why do you think?

>>61027643
Feds?

>>61024873
Try to look for it yourself next time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt#External_links

>>61027046
Allegedly being insecure. There has been one minor issue turn up that was solved in Vera Crypt, I forget the exact details. More likely had to do with the CIA's NSA clone using compromised pendrive/portable versions of Truecrypt to compromise systems. Unclear how that caused it, but wikileaks revealed it was a common strategy around the same time.

>>61027785
This.
Use VeraCrypt instead.

I wonder if we'll end up seeing a measure of watered down /sec/ taught in high schools?

>>61027665
Sort of.

>>61029190
Unlikely. Critical thinking is more important and still far away. You might shoehorn /sec/ in as a subset case of critical thinking but pigs will fly before that.

>>61030759
We'll be getting Creationism instead. :^)

Is there a diference between a WS GPU (Quadro/Firepro) and a general purposa/gaming GPU (GeForce/Radeon) in processing hashes and crypting/decrypt data?

>>61026267
>the devs got asassinated by the CIA
What? Did they find the bodies?

>>61021646
What do you use it for?

>>61032095
Not him but that is an RSA code unit. I think that is the one the Chinese were able to circumvent when they drained Lockheed Martin for details about the F-35.

>>61021646
>RSA
Hope you like backdoors.

>>61021646
are there any freedom respecting dynamic tokens that are compatible with openVPN?

>>61032876
My thoughts exactly.

>>61032095
Banking. You need ID + Password + The number on the tag that changes every minute.

>>61032876
>>61032782
It was either that or SMS codes.

>>60994085
>>>60993925
>stop using Kali Linux noob.
>>60993925
>Anyone get the Kali freeze where you boot into desktop and don't know what to do, like what to play around with? Not a noob at all but struggle with practical hands on stuff that I can actually learn from
You mean acpi error ?

where do i look for 0days

i want to hack something

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don't mind me. sensor monster coming through.

>>61035197
Those are some sick lasers they got there.

>>61035197
By Odin's beard...

>>60979833
>>61035440
>>61035243
>>61035197
>>61035167
>>61035035
>>61034954
Thread has reached bump limit.
Go here: >>61035729

At a free conference about cybersecurity in industry, figured it'd get the ball rolling on meeting people in the industry.

I forgot something about conferences, the only thing worse than a whole load of barely disguised sales pitches is a full schedule of speeches aimed at old people who know nothing about tech.

Time has officially ceased to exist