Official Debian 9 (Stretch) Release Countdown Party Thread

Enjoy your systemd botnet

>>60930396
Debian's implementation of systemd is pretty nice. Text logs enabled, sysvinit compatibility, etc.

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>being so boring that you're excited for a minor incremental update of your 3 year old operating system

oh wow, now it's like.... 2 years old now!

>>60930426
>being this bitter that you have no friends to invite / invite you to a realease icecream social

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>>60930390
>>Who else /hyped/ ?
me

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Anyone going to a release party? My country's is too far away.

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I haven't used debian in so long.

>>60930396
>implying you can't remove systemd and use sysvinit
>implying anyone concerned about that wouldn't already know how to do it and remove it anyway

>>60930426

t. Amazon botnet butthurt Ubuntufag

Uh...
I should replace my arch linux for things like this...
There's nothing to wait...

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RIP

>>60930550
>arch

>being this pretentious

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Why haven't you upgraded already?

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>>60930666
>Minecraft

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>>60930666
this

>>60930666
>>60930728

If I download stretch now will it be the same as the version "released" today?

>>60930662
Shut up!!!
I want to find friends

>>60930396
fpbp

rip ian

daily reminder it was some asshole on /g/ who told him to kill himself a few hours before he died

probably a fedora shill

>>60930796
Who?

>>60930865
Ian Murdock, the guy who started Debian in 1991
see >>60930555

>>60930892
1993*
Got year confused with Linux kernel

>>60930892
don't be foolish
CIA niggers killed him because he refused to make debian botnet
check the date of debian's transition to systemd and his death
yeah

>>60930933
he didn't have anything to do with debian for decades though

>>60930390
What happens of I have Debian Jessie? Will the next update make it go from Debian 8 to Debian 9 so I keep having stable, or will it keep being 8 and I'll suddenly be on oldstable?

>>60930396
Is summer already? Tell us why it's a botnet and post specific parts of sourcecode as proof.

>>60930966
You need to upgrade and hope it fucking works, as if I haven't enough stress already

this may help
https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch

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>>60930390
I'm already using it! ;D

>>60930980
jessie to stretch is seamless

https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html
I don't know about wheezy to stretch however

does nobody notice the sheer incompetency of that fucking poettering idiot?
he did the exact same shit with pulseaudio

it's great as long as it works, but the second you need to fix something or want to configure it differently you are FUCKED

>>60930980
Thanks, but that guide is months old and doesn't cover what I was asking. That guide is about upgrading from stable to a newer one, but what's happening now is that the newer one will become the new stable, so I was under the impression that if I installed Debian Stable it will always be Debian Stable; I could run it 20 years and it will always be Debian Stable because it would upgrade accordingly. If that's not the case then what would be the point of a Stable/Unstable scheme instead of a release-number scheme? Am I wrong?

>>60931008
>jessie to stretch is seamless
I'm on PowerPC. Are you sure?

I dont have to wait anything because I use Arch Linux. Everything is always up to date and it just works :^)

>>60931008
>jessie to stretch is seamless
SO I just edit my sources.list to stretch, do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and that should do it?

>>60931082
more like it just breaks and you'll have to spend the whole day glueing your shit back together

>>60931192
spotted the brainlet that couldnt install arch
its ok brainlet, just keep using your entry level noob distros like debian :^)

>>60931188
yes
you should have backups anyway just in case

>>60931188
Your sources.list should already be set to stable if you want to always be on stable. Then as soon stretch becomes stable you can dist-upgrade without bothering to change your sources.list

>>60931211
well aren't you smart, copying command lines from the arch wiki just to feel superior

>>60931256
>implying im not using the ncurses based UI installer from the archboot iso
one step ahead of you pleb

>>60931230
Could you give me an example how I change this to stable?

#deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main
#deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-updates main
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-updates main

# jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-backports main
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-backports main

deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

>>60931275
you'd need an ncurses based installer for every package to be as efficient as Debian

>>60931001
What panel is that?

>>60931292
cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/jessie/stable/g' > /etc/apt/sources.list

>>60931307
true, every arch package would need an ncurses UI added to reach the size and performance of debian packages.

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>>60930396
>enjoy your systemd botnet
>uses windows

>>60931292
Do yourself a favor

deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main contrib
deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main

# jessie-security, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main non-free

>>60931292
Replace every instance of "jessie" in that file with "stable"

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I just found out that they name their releases after Toy Story characters.

>>60931339
I guess it's more important to save your idle i7 a few cycles than working on something more productive than editing config files

>>60931441
the dev packages and robustness of arch is why I have an i7 and you have a pentium.

>>60930390
>being exited for sjwan
>being excited for systemd
>/hyped/

And they say summerfags don't exist

>>60931491
>Le ebin sjwbian maymay

>>60931491
>sjw

elaborate?

>systemd

see: >>60930506

>>60930390
I have been using Stretch for a long time and it just works. Nothing really to be hyped about, it's only just going to become the new "stable" now

>>60931475
which i7 is 0.001% faster than a Pentium?

also laughed at robustness

>>60931538
just ask someone to help you install arch and see for yourself, in arch you get all the headers included with packages and only security patches done so packages arent altered

for ex elixir language is broken on debian because erlang has been broken into non-functional parts, while on arch is flawless. debian people fuck up packages in the name of being different or whatever. thats why I prefer arch, I want my apps to work

>>60931534

You must be great fun at parties

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just install cloveros faggots

>>60931596
Amada is cute!

>>60931560
I don't go to parties and if I would I don't believe the version of the operating system I am using becoming officially stable is worth hyping and a great topic of discussion when it has been working fine for a long time, specifically when it got frozen that it hasn't gotten other than bugfixes anyway for a long time, unless of course if the other people are interested in Debian too. It has been working great for a long time and tomorrow its "stable" officially, what is there to be hyped about?

When will next devuan get released?

>>60931633
i love you man

>>60930426
s-shut up

I only know Debian always feel comfy like I'm back at home.

>>60931509
>being excited by sjwan
>doesn't even read the sjwan news
>samefag to defend his arguments

Keep it going though, it's fun

>>60931008
>I don't know about wheezy to stretch however
You can't do that directly, (or at least it might not work properly if you try) but you can do wheezy -> jessie and then jessie -> stretch.

>>60931886

So you can't elaborate then? You've presented literally zero argument.

>>60931394
Who the fuck is named stretch?

>>60931962
It's the octopus from toy story 3

>>60931962
The octopus from toy story 3.

>>60931962
ian's wife's pussy by black cocks

>>60930390
>debian niggers just now getting features everyone else has had for years
>still using apt
(:<

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>tfw updating without backup
feeling bretty edgy

>>60931950
So you chose to ignore my posts and my answers, and not answer to my questions m? Typical sjwfag, I can't say I didn't saw it coming.

>>60931995
Black Widow

>>60931605
who's amanda? i'm sorry, i don't know any waifus.

>>60932085
KEK

>>60932036
Why? A dist-upgrade isn't going to wipe your hard drive or something. At worst, it's going to break a package or two that you'll have to manually fix.

we need debian release party qt14s!!

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>>60932265
:3

>>60932288
>girl
Eww..

>>60931394
so comfy.

>>60931001
>being this edgy

>>60930390
that's a cute pic

>>60932064
>So you chose to ignore my posts and my answers

You've answered nothing. Stop projecting.

we need more pale geeky debian waifus

who has the debian birthday party pic

> Good goy, work for free.
Kill yourself commie cucks

>>60932393
I think she needs a little xfce mouse buddy too!

>>60930390
Why would you use stable instead of testing on a desktop? I'm a debian (testing) user as well, and I have used stable on different pkatforms, so I'm not just spouting the "debian is outdated" meme.

>>60932459
this isnt bsd general

we dont allow apple/sony(ps4)/nintendo(switch) to use our kernel without providing upstream support

>>60932505
>Not using MIT license
Stay cucked

>>60932499
It's ironic they call it testing,
considering how stable it's been these last 4 years.

>>60931639
Hopefully soon.

>>60932499
Because it's stable, duh
Testing is not meant for daily use. Of course, testing is still really stable and likely won't break but I like things to be as secure as possible.

Is PC BSD better than Free BSD as a desktop os

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>party rockin' in the house tonight

Reminder that MIT is freedom and GPL is cuckoldry.

>>60932573
wallpaper?

>>60932522
>suggests cuck license in a GNU GPL thread

you are getting desperate

>>60932606
>Calling MIT cuck licence when suggesting communist license

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>>60932600

>>60932633
<3

>>60932586
>gpl = requires upstream for updates and source when redistributed
>mit = companies can steal all your progress and make money off it while not provide anything in return

i think you need to look up the definition of cucked there lad

>>60932428
go easy on him he uses ubuntu

>>60932641
>Oy vey goy, capitalism is oppressive, you should try communism. GPL is about sharing the source code like how the wealth should be shared. Say, have you considered sharing your wife with tyrone?

>>60931046
If you have the name of the release, e.g. "stretch", in your sources.list, then it will always be stretch. If you have a keyword, like "stable", "testing" or "unstable" there, then it will always be the current stable, testing or unstable, respectively. If you use stable and have stable in your sources.list, you're suddenly gonna get a bunch of updates that are a couple versions newer the day a new version is released, which may not be desirable on servers in production, since there's a chance something will break. If you use testing, however, then you will face no such problems when a new version us released, since testing always uses pretty up to date packages, unlike stable.

>>60932622
>he doesnt understand what communism is

>>60932679
no gpl is protected for citizens
it has nothing to do with the market idiot

mit allows corporations to make money from your work

you have it backwards but you are a retard

>>60932641
>gpl = companies never release source, if not months after their product is released
>mit = companies never release source

>>60932702
>Yes goy, those evil corporations are keeping you down. Let me share the wealth for you, just work for free and I'll liberate you.

>>60932459
>>60932586
>>60932679
>>60932622
MODS THIS POSTER FOR GOING OFF TOPIC TO THE THREAD AND PURPOSELY STARTING CONFLICT

>>60932714
legally they have to release source

thats not the fault of the gpl thats the fault of the courts not defending the license

this is a debian thread and you are going off topic this isnt a license discussion

>>60932725
He's not posting porn so it's a-ok

>>60932749
look at /g/s rules

>>60932764
Until he upsets a mod, they won't give a shit until hours later.

>>60930865
The "ian" in Debian. Deb was his wife who cucked him later.

>>60932525
I hate this meme. In debian, stable means "does not change", not "does not crash". Therefore testing is not stable because it gets new packages and versions.
Some desktop users, like me actually prefer to have an OS that does not change frequently.

>>60930720
not him but fuck off minecraft is a decent game
>inb4 ">game"
fuck off digital games are a decent artistic medium

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>>60930390
I'm sipping on a club mate.

>>60932526
>testing is not meant for daily use
I tried all three versions for extended periods of time, and testing is the only one that didn't suck balls. Sid packages always had too many bugs, and it ultimately ended up failing to boot after an update. Back when wheezy was still stable, the ntfs driver had a bug that caused it to randomly unmount ntfs partitions when it was under heavy load (due to torrenting), and of course it being stable meant it would have taken forever for it to to get fixed. More recently, I used raspbian stable on my raspberry pi, and the erlang package was two versions behind, meaning I would have had to use deprecated functions in my code. Meanwhile, the worst thing about testing is the occasional bug that will get fixed in a couple weeks anyway.

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>>60930390
Here you go. I've been running it for a while.

Because I'll get the question, I have so many packages because I do development, video editing, QA and a little web hosting on this machine.

>>60932090
Amada (no n) - she's AMD's mascot, I think they use her in Asian advertising. AMaDa, get it?

Also she's not a crazy yandere that spies on you like Inori Aizawa.

>>60932884
No security promises though. If an upstream version doesn't go into testing in a timely fashion then you sit there and wait. I have seen things break in testing, too.

Rather than deal with rolling-release I've always just used stable and gotten the small number of things where I care about being current from backports. (or just compile them myself) idk, maybe you have a lot more stuff where you care about being bleeding edge.

>stretch
I was already on that shit as soon as stretch became the new testing release.
Who's hyped for buster?

When does Raspbian Stretch release?

>>60933043
2000 packages is average for a debian desktop. The retarded arch users think it's a lot because their packages are bloated as fuck.

>>60933164
install gentoo

>>60930555
Look at the fear in his eyes

He knew the CIA niggers were after him

>>60933164
It already has hasn't it?

>>60933180
It's still considered testing, not stable, isn't it?

>>60933221
Isn't the current release on stretch?

>>60933225
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
>Jessie
I don't think so.

>>60933225
Pretty sure it's jessie.

>>60932428
I did, so unless you're just a sad kid trying to be an epic troll, stop samefagging to try to make it look like other people is involved in our conversation and answer the questions.

>>60933790
>I did,

Where?

>>60933175
Like Terry

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little buggy still

>>60933147
Why would you use a distribution in freeze, even Debian devs don't recommend that shit.

>>60932850
this guy gets it

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fuck me hard daddy

>>60934055
me personally I wanted to see compiz again

>>60934105
>VirtualBox
Stop being a pussy and install it for real.

>>60934105
but mah vidya, and fuck dual boot

>>60930396
>botnet
>systemd is literally open source software that you have control over

why does everyone hate systemd and kernal 4.9

>>60930933
this

>>60930933
>glowing cia niggers

>>60933846
>still avoiding the questions
Ah, so you are just a kid trying to be a troll. Good to know.

>>60934189
There is literally no reason. Not even RMS hates SystemD.

>>60934806
so whats all the autism about

>>60935025
It's a meme you dip

>>60935050
what about kernal 4.9

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>>60930390

No party. I will miss Jessie, since it's the distro I cut my Debian teeth on. But I see little reason not to move to Stretch.

>>60930440
this tbqh

me and my friends are getting together on sunday evening and having ice cream & fuck around with the new debian.

i want it on my pi to fucks with, and i'm pretty sure my other friend is bringing booze to.

it'll be fun

should I upgrade now or wait until tomorrow?

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Where were you when best girl won the buzzbowl?

>>60935205
does it even count if it's spanish buzz?

>>60935153

Why do you even have to ask? Wait till tomorrow when it's actually out. I imagine it will be out by midday UK time.

>>60935205
She doesn't even have any competition.

Are the nonfree images coming out tomorrow, too?

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I turn 30 tomorrow and have decided to stop fapping and drinking alcohol. What's some good thing to do instead to get my mind off of these when the urge hits?

So far I bought some hot sauce that gives me a nice rush when I eat it.
Don't say exercise because I don't like doing that very much.

Pic is Debian shit

>>60933175
>you will never be raped by the police then go online and call everyone niggers before finally becoming an hero like Ian did

>>60935205
Buzz lightyear has the Debian logo on his chin lad...

>>60935393
Are you still a kissless handholdless virgin? lmao

>>60935422
Girl sat in my lap once. Same girl would give me hugs when I came to her apartment but I hated it. Being touched by other people makes my skin crawl I hate it so much.

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>>60935393

Indian food - madras MINIMUM but ideally vindaloo and phal
Dark chocolate - eat it very slowly and take your time over each square. I would personally aim for 70% cocoa.
Horror films
Computer games

>>60930506
>implying you can't remove systemd and use sysvinit
There should be a choice in the installer so it doesn't get installed in the first place.

>>60931633
The reason we use Debian is for stability. So yes, it's a big deal.

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While we're at it, any more sexy Debian walls?

>>60935574
Remember back in the day when all the highest rated papes on *-look.org would just be pictures of women with Ubuntu logos shopped on?

>>60935620

It's absolutely tragic. And quite amusing.

>>60930747
People like you shouldn't exist

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>>60932679
>>60932459
>>60932622

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>>60935984

Shut up you Ragamuffin

xubuntu vs. Debian 9 Xfce?

>>60936019
debian 9 xfce comes with a lot of the same default programs but runs a bit better from my experience, i'd go with that.

>>60936073
What kernel verison?

>>60930390
>/hyped/
>>>/redd!t/

Just upgraded from 8.8, it was actually heaps easier than I expected (never done debian upgrade before). Used this guide if any famalam also want to upgrade: https://www.rootusers.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch/

>>60936323
4.9 is the kernel version

https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/

um why not use sid?

>>60936565
Because it's broken constantly and not meant for actual usage?

>>60936573
works fine for me

>>60936565
I don't want rolling release

>>60936565
you'll know once you get a real job

>>60936594
Then you don't do anything of any complexity with it

>>60936616
and complex would be?

>>60936632
Go learn English somewhere else

I haven't been paying attention to releases lately. I've got a few machines to upgrade tonight.

SYSTEMD

B O T N E T
O
T
N
E
T

>>60936891
Epic burn! LMAO!

I hadn't used debian in a while, and I've been trying to get it to work again, but no matter what I do, firefox crashes constantly. both the esr and the current version. I can't figure it out. Not sure if it's just a firefox issue or something else, but I don't remember having any stability problems with debian before.

>>60936903
Enjoy paying redhat for a subscription to StackExchange

>>60936891
You can switch from systemd to sysv easily.

I'm running Jessie and i have a machine with an encrypted disk that for whatever reason started bootlopping after entering the encryption pwd.

You press enter and then it just reboots. I haven't done any upgrades, no downloads, it's just a glorified chromebook i setup for my dad who travels for work.

Help.

>>60935449
Can someone replace the friendship thing on her mouth for an unpacked condom? I really, really need it.

>>60930666
Because going from Gentoo to Debian would be a downgrade

>>60936964
Either you're lying and you need to tell us what you did, or the disk got corrupted and he's hosed. This is why you don't encrypt disks that dumb people use.

>>60937177
>Install takes 20 minutes rather than 6 hours
It's an upgrade

>>60930396
But I use Devuan, the patricians choice of OS.

>>60937234
But I already have Gentoo installed, so that is irrelevant

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>>60930521
ARCH IS LINUX FOR LESBIANS

FUCK OFF WITH SHIT BOOTLEG

Debian is Linux for masochists who love reading blog posts to do anything with their system because it's the only form of documentation avaliable

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>404: Not found when dist-upgrading
Always like this on release day.

>>60937269
Did you update first?

>>60937255
>no documentation
https://wiki.debian.org/

>>60937285
Of course. apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade. The usual stuff before upgrading to a new release.

>>60936930
You can't change it during installation? On the trash it goes, this is Arch levels of lazyness from part of the developers

if I switch from stable (stretch) to testing now they will be the same, right? only that testing isn't frozen

>>60930728
>2 CLOCKS
XDDD

>>60937707
wat

>>60937578
Yeah, you'll be on the unnamed testing distribution.
testing = whatever is in testing. You will always be in testing.
testing-codename = whatever the prerelease debian is

>>60935393
Get fit.
Does not necessarily need to be /fit/ level, but working out is a good way to keep yourself busy, as well as healthy.

If I remember correctly, you made progress and gains once before. Why not continue down that path?

>>60930390
why don't you just set your repos to "testing" and get the rolling release? also, why aren't you using devuan yet? systemd is a headache without actual benefit outside of boot times for dorks who fully shut down machines and unit files for people who refuse to learn shell scripting.

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>>60937922
My wife's son's name is Devuan

>>60937291
It's a laughably poorly written ghost town

>>60935235
I self inserted hard when he turned spanish

what wm should I use; awesome, i3, or twm?

>>60937979
As a regular editor, fuck you.
The wiki barely needs to be documented because everything is written in the vastly superior resource known as "man pages". Of course, as an arch user, you need to consult your wiki for the endless workarounds because:

1. Your shit breaks constantly
2. You're too stupid to read /usr/share/doc
3. You cannot comprehend manual pages.

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>>60938048
twm is the only wm. everything else is an expensive hack.

>>60938048
i3 and join the keyboard only master race

>300K /usr/bin/blackbox
>1.3M /usr/bin/fluxbox
>844K /usr/bin/fvwm
>172K /usr/bin/twm
>536K /usr/bin/wmaker

blackbox or windowmaker would also be acceptable. windowmaker is getting fat but it's worth it i suppose for the uniqueness of it.

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>using a distro named after a roastie

>>60938150
How does i3 compare?

>>60938150
evilwm is 0.7

>>60938074
Can someone tell me why twm is always displayed as not found in the screen fetch ? Am I missing something here ?

>>60937922
Go back to Arch.

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>stretch party
>some anime pics instead of actual Stretch

faggots

>>60938181
i'm not sure about i3's size if thats what you mean. i haven't used it in over a year but i remember being annoyed by its goofy parent child nonsense. i used ratpoison for about 2 years exclusively before i realized tiling window management is broken by design. windows sizes should be determined by their contents and not by the weird desire to fill all negative space on the screen, afaic.

>>60938265
I don't understand it either. Debian is being named after Toy Story characters. Anime is completely irrelevant. Why don't they just go back to Arch.

>>60938258
i tried arch for maybe a week when it still used bsd style init. even back then i hated it. arch exists in the most retarded possible place, between gentoo and fedora. it requires most of the work of gentoo, but you end up with something bloated and unstable anyways.

>>60938284
I always wondered why Toy Story in particular...

>>60938054
Yeah, man pages are a great place for storing tips and tricks as well as troubleshooting information

They both have their uses

>1. Your shit breaks constantly
>t. not an Arch user
Never had shit break on Arch that wasn't my fault for nigger rigging shit together

>2. You're too stupid to read /usr/share/doc
Yet another ghost town

>3. You cannot comprehend manual pages.
See above
I use the Linux programming pages weekly for looking up specifics of C functions

>As a regular editor
Good on you though man
Shame you're apparently the only one

If you use debian for anything but headless seedbox machine one you should just kill yourself, no one will miss you

>MAN pages

wtf, no WOMAN pages? what's this bullshit?

>>60938388
>tfw no CHILD pages

>>60938388
kek.
didn't debian actually do something like this? like clams.debian.org

>>60932804
If it does not change and also didn't crash at some point in time, then it doesn't crash, since that doesn't change. You're basically retarded.

So... is it out yet?

>>60938556
Also, what do I do if I'm using jessie-backports?

>>60938566
I think you can safely disable that line now. You can enable it later as stretch-backports if you need any new software.

>>60938603
is there a way to compare packages from jessie-backpports and stretch?

Why does this page still show jessie as stable?
https://www.debian.org/releases/

>>60938630
>is there a way to compare packages from jessie-backpports and stretch?
enter the package name on packages.debian.org

>>60938635
*batch compare

>>60938635
Why does this page still show jessie as stable?
https://www.debian.org/releases/

YES!

Finally!!

Dis gon' be gud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

>>60935620

GIMPed*

>>60938650
stretch (Debian 9) isn't out yet. The ETA for release is today, so it will probably be out soon.

For more info you can idle in #debian in freenode, or subscribe to debian-announce.

The main goal for release was to get this list of bugs down to zero ( https://udd.debian.org/bugs/?release=stretch_and_sid&merged=ign&keypackages=only&fnewerval=7&flastmodval=7&rc=1&chints=1&ctags=1&cdeferred=1&crttags=1&sortby=id&sorto=asc&format=html#results ) and nearly everything on it is marked as ignorable.

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>that guy's debian girl

>>60938704
So what happens if I upgrade to stretch right now?

>>60938761
you get stretch packages?

The only thing a "release" does is symlink /stable/ to /stretch/ on the apt mirrors. Oh, and marketing, new ISOs and so on, but you could have started running stretch any time in the last two years.

>>60938761
This will end your life. So do it.

>>60930390
Are they adding i3-gaps to the repos?

>>60938782
So is it painless? I've heard nembutal is, but I've never heard about Death through Debian, and as far as I know, there's only one (1) successful attempt (that I know of).

>>60938774
So what's going to change after they officially release it?

>>60938774
I'm waiting for marketing, new ISOs and so on. I could use stretch earlier but I want to use it after it marked kosher.

>>60938798
Go back to Arch for these frills bells and whistles or use macOS.

STICKY
T
I
C
K
Y

inb4 "hurr-durr we don't need a sticky muh snowflake distro"

>>60938831
we don't need a sticky for useless linux shit

>>60938806
>Death through Debian
Research on Ian Murdock

>>60938074
>Nitzer Ebb

Noice!!

>>60938842
Wobbly Windows

>>60938864
windows is way more powerfull than your neckbeard shit

>>60938864

tfw when screen tearing is DIY Wobbly Windows

>>60930390
I'm not that hype since I've been running Sid for three years now. What I do like about this is the eventual live images, Debian Jessie live can't do shit with somewhat modern hardware.

>>60938872
It's an old school meme.

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>>60938872
systemctl rupeed --deposit 10

>>60938880
Pretty sure the point releases come with hardware-enablement updates for kernel and mesa, just update your live image

>>60938880
do you run compiz?

>>60938890
No. Plenty of companies would be fucked without active directory and other useful windows stuff

>>60938915
Are you retarded?

>>60938915
>active directory
freeipa is fully compatible with active directory forests (uses redhat's 389 directory server and samba)

>other useful windows stuff
nice

>>60938931
No, I am no freetard

>>60932742
i think that post is agreeing with you

The GPL just makes what companies are doing illegal, which is a better chance that they will change their behaviour.

>>60938977
Wobbly windows is an old school Compiz meme effect on Linux. I don't give a fuck about Windows at all, I use Windows only to update firmware on my laptop.

>>60931335
Congratulations on winning the "Useless use of cat" award.

>>60935025
A few years back there was a lot of overblown panic about how systemd was Ruining Linux Forever™, mostly by people who never had to spend much time diagnosing broken sysvinit or upstart services on servers at work. Also it's Lennartware so it really did suck for a while before it stabilized, like PulseAudio.

>>60935620
>>60938691
*edited
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Photoshop

>>60939053
GNU sed also can change a file in-place.

>>60939103
yeah, it doesn't even work as-is because the final output redirector opens the file O_CREATE|O_TRUNC /before/ cat opens the file, so cat gets nothing

This problem in general is solved with 'sponge', which is in a package along with a bunch of other useful utilities

Overheard in freenode#debian:

<Dollar> Stretch released?
<luna_> Dollar: they are working on it
<Dollar> alright :)
<luna_> #Debian-release: Idle quietly please, release in progress! for Stretch

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>>60930390
Neat. I'm about to update.

>>60930666
Looks like I've found my new XFWM theme. Thanks, m8.

>>60931070
It should be the exact same for different CPU architectures. I run an ARM build of Debian on my memeberry pi as a home server and it was just as easy as upgrading my x86 machines.

Live stretch release progress
- updated every few minutes: https://micronews.debian.org/

>>60939121
PowerPC can be tricky. Squeeze to Wheezy permabroke X on some macs because the nv driver was dropped before nouveau worked properly on their GPUs.

>>60939149
Shit, really? Glad I don't use anything like that.

>>60932573
> More than three diferent icon themes and styles mixed together

linux desktop in a nutshell.

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it's official.

>>60932637
if you need it in higher res its a macos pape

>>60939166
These were decade old imacs at the time. Not a huge loss, and the ATI ones still work in Jessie.

>>60930501
Please tell me how you got it to look like this.

>>60939140
Thanks you for the link indeed.

>>60939173
Stay away from Linux, we are full.

>>60939180
Great! May wait a bit to upgrade my VPS though.

>>60939173
>More than three diferent icon themes and styles mixed together
Isn't that what Windows 10 looks like?

>>60930501
>Loongson
NICE

>May
>Longsoon

>>60937337
yes you can in fact

>>60939229
You're mom full.

> I'm using linux.

>>60939265

No, also W10 doesn't look like Windows 95 on steroids (openbox with lxqt, fuck my eyes)

Can I use neural network frameworks that have been tested for Ubuntu on Debian since Ubuntu is based on Debian?

>>60940034
If it runs on 14.04 or 16.04 then there is a good chance that it will run on jessie/stretch too.

Does the kernel update automatically when upgrading 8 to 9?

>>60940267
yes and not.

It will install the new 4.9 kernel which will be the default in grub. Your previous kernel is left intact so if you have problems with 4.9 you can use your previous kernel.

How does Stretch look like when it comes to compatibility with Ryzen?

Aptitude shows 2561 upgradable packages and 3 security upgrades.

My PC runs out of RAM when aptitude checks dependencies.


Help?

>>60940367
-enable swapfile:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=2048
mkswap /swapfile
swapon /swapfile

-do a partial upgrade, first just apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade

>>60940387
I already have a 16GB swap, how is this different?

The swap doesn't fill fully, but my computer gets really slow.

>>60940034
Tensorflow.

>>60931596
Tried this in a VM. Pretty awesome, just a very streamlined Gentoo experience

>>60937922
My system boots faster with Devuan, never looking back.

>>60940488
I just don't like deviations, forks and similar. Debian is the second oldest distribution in the history of Linux I believe that the decision of the largest community to use systemd is wise enough than the decision of some nihilists.

>>60940316
It doesn't, 4.9 kernel doesn't support Ryzen.

>>60938265

Until now, I was under the assumption that Stretch was the springy dog character.

>>60940533
>I believe that the decision of the largest community to use systemd is wise enough than the decision of some nihilists.

There is a big community who decided to be gay, so go on, take 3 dicks in your ass too.

>>60940533
I completely understand what you mean, I've been using Debian since 2003 for that exact reason. However as the years have passed a lot of the good developers at Debian have left due to the awful SJW politics that have appeared more and more over the last few years.

>>60937210
Well, he's like 400 miles away, and all I have for proof is like pictures he took with his phone of the boot process.

>>60940533
Don't let Debian's large community give you a false sense of security, Debian now is a shadow of what it was 10-12 years ago.

Debian has been destroyed by SJW's and over run by their obsessive, destructive politics, forcing changes in the OS for benign and childish reasons.

>>60940600
Can you share some example on that?

>>60940643
The whole issue with 'man' pages, and they re-wrote parts of their kernel to not use the words 'man' and 'slave'.

They obsessively and compulsively edit their packages from upstream, which has brought in serious security issues in the past, and regularly brings in compatibility issues.

I wish Debian was the way it was back in 2005-2007, either that or Devuan gains more traction.

>>60940686
>'man' pages
This took me a minute. Then it clicked in. Wow this is so retarded. How's the situation been going since these security issues? Did they take any step back?

>>60930501
>>60939270
>Kernel: mips64 loongson-2f
>CPU: IBM PowerPC G3
What is going on here? Changing screenfetch to display something different doesn't make your HP / MSI netbook Free, you know

>>60940686
what the fuck i hate debian now

>>60940686
What serious security issues we talking here. And word replacements in man pages, who cares

>>60940686
Can you source this? I can't find any source that say this.

>>60938872
>t. rajesh

>>60932586
GPL = gay penis language
BSD = based sandwich document

>>60940922
>>60940724

This is one example, although a pretty huge one at that;

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/random_number_b.html

>>60940367
>tfw aptitude has been calculating dependencies for an hour
WHAT THE FUCK

7.6G RAM, 4G Swap used.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60933175
How can we save Terry and his space alien?

>>60930390
"Obsolete from day one!"

>>60940600
What do you implying under the word security. The anime porn and weed of an underadolescent kid or blowed fuck out building by a Muslim suicide bomber. If you're too obsessed with the information security learn about the cryptographic algorithms and TCP/IP protocolos.

>>60941653
I think by sense of security he means that a large community typically gives you an idea of quality, refinement and thorough peer review of everything that is being put out.

How long until the debian 9 iso is ready for download??

>>60941112
Now 7.6G RAM, 5.5G Swap used.

HELP
MAYDAY
MAYDAY
HELP ME

>>60941742

A few hours, the devs said. I wouldn't expect anything till tonight.

>>60939535
In fact, you can't

>>60930506
>remove systemd
Devuan is an entire project dedicated to doing nothing but remove systemd from debian and they still can't quite do it.

>>60942923

>>60942923

>>60942923