/pcbg/ PC Building General

Can I get some feedback on my build, about to pull the trigger. It is intended for 1080p 60fps gaming on medium-ultra settings depending in the game.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCxWvV

>>60921373
I think you'll be happy with it, but I'd get a modular UPS personally

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6W92wV
Basically what I'm looking at starting, the Mobo and ram (yes I want 16) are just what I pulled of Logical Increments so I'm open to changes, I only ever lurk when I'm building or buying parts so how is the 7700k with 1080 ti for 4k?

>>60921508
Great. Shills will tell you to get AMD and you should if you are doing other CPU intensive stuff aside from gaming otherwise 7700k and a 1080ti is probably the best you can do for gaming unless you get a 1800 instead.

Don't fall for no source benchmarks. Do your own research as well.

>>60921570
>SHILLS! EVERYONE'S A SHILL!
no. It doesn't work that way. Call me when Intel can produce a good product without price gouging.

>>60921508
The 7700K is only worth it if the only thing you do is game at 1440P at 144 FPS.
For anything else, AMD Ryzen does everything else better, and doesn't perform that much worse in games.
If you only game, it's prefectly fine.
If not, Switch to Ryzen.

My only complaint about the build beyond that is the power supply is fucking overkill. A 600/550 Watt would be perfectly fine

>>60921612
>no. It doesn't work that way
It works that way when morons in this thread start posting benchmarks without source and then entire thread devolves into shitposting when someone ask for a source and the moron refuses to provide one. This has happened multiple time already.

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>>60916384
I went for Ryzen over Intel because I do more than just gaming. I like to have a lot of tabs open and things running because I'm autistic or something and I don't want my house to burn down. Plus I'm probably gonna get into editing down the line. Don't really care about the hyper gaymen sound shit headphones because that's gay as shit. Other than that I just like the keyboard and mouse.

Updated build from >>60906463 plz r8

How important is it to reinstall your OS if you're changing motherboards? /v/ says you will get significant problems if I keep my current installation.

>>60921650
Nice build OP

>>60921508
1080 ti can play a fair few games at 4k 60fps, but it's not really a huge 4k card like the Titan XP. Still fine.
i7 is fine as well. Ryzen is good too for different things. Pick whatever you want depending on what you need. People make a big deal out of it but a lot of it comes down to brand preference and the fuckers on this general love memeing over it.
RAM is fine, you could get cheaper ones at lower frequency and it won't really affect performance, but if you really want 3200 then it's only around 20-30 bucks more.

Some recommendations besides that:
- Get an aftermarket 1080 ti. iirc founders edition ones tend to have worse thermals
- Power supply is overkill, you can get PSUs just as good for much less. Look for around 550-600w like the other anon says, gold and fully modular, you can save like 60+ bucks.
- That case just looks really expensive. Not my specialty, buy what you want, but it just seems very expensive, you can get some killer cases for less I think.

>>60921674
Depends on your OS. W10 is actually very good at swapping between Mobo. And so is W8. W7 down or Linux? Best to reinstall your OS.

>>60921570
>>60921612
Yeah it would really only be gaming, I read reviews saying that mobo is frowned on? I don't care about frame rates of 60, so it can do 4k at 60. As the
>SOME
In the OP is the first thing that has made me wary. Ryzen has also screwed my perception up.

>>60921675
Thank you my friend, although i am not OP

>>60921695
Ryzen's AM4 platform just needed some time to mature. 90% of the problems have been ironed out by now.

>>60921757
More of a couple years ago I understood it as the i7 was "da best" and now the Ryzen is turning against the memes

>>60921373
I would recommend getting the 6GB version.
I'm using 3.2GB of my 4GB Rx 570 while playing doom at 1080p Ultra, and check the reviews of that monitor, for that price you should always be sure.

>>60921650
Oh it´s you again. looks great. just remember to check the QVL memory support for that specific MoBo. And remember to get some intake fans. (or maybe your case comes with some?)

>>60921508
just seems like you´re overspending IMO. that case is too freaking expensive, and so is the PSU. Consider ryzen if you´re not gaming above 120Hz, since the plataform will last a few years of updates and the higher core/thread count will ensure future gaming performance.

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Whats a good AM4 mobo under $100?
I'm doing a full system upgrade and I want to get a good mb without spending way more on something I will never fully use
I really only care that it has GPU passthough support and 2 PCI-e lanes

>>60921806
slots*, even

What RAM to buy to get the best perfs on my future Ryzen 1700?

>>60921815
pends on mobo

>>60921823
Whatever, budget for mobo is 400€ max

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/g/amer girl builds for June 15

>$480 - ANY 2017 title @ 1080p50 medium settings, even better in some titles
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/B2hf7P

>$840 - ANY 2017 title @1080p60 high settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/vYnzyc

>$1000 - ANY 2017 title @ 1440p60 medium settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/h3qt6h

>$1390 - ANY 2017 title @ 2160p60 low settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/7C3P6h

If you want better CPU overclocking, go with an X370 mobo, get an aftermarket cooler, get a gold certified PSU.

Need a HDD? Go with Hitachi.

is zotac a good brand for gpu? I remember seeing some anon's cryptic comment in previous thread.
>zotac
>:^)

>>60921906
There's nothing wrong with the Zotac brand. It's very popular.

Anyone that says otherwise and doesn't supply proof is a shill.

>>60921373
good build. Personally I'd go for a 120GB SSD and then buy the extra HDD later when I need it.

Why are Gigabyte products so garbage?

3 fan Gigabyte G1 1070 is louder and hotter than 2 fan EVGA SC2.

>>60921806
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XZCrxr/msi-b350m-mortar-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b350m-mortar

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6T7CmG/gigabyte-ga-ab350m-gaming-3-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350m-gaming-3

>>60921952
Cheaper one.

>>60921869
Can you explain to me the logic behind a 250GB SSD? Is it notable at that price point?

>>60921972
250GB is manageable for light users like myself. I keep several older titles and two modern titles downloaded. I also have space for all of my normal files and programs.

I no longer recommend HDDs, they're slower, will not last as long as the current SSDs, and are less reliable. I would only pick up an HDD if you cannot afford a 250GB SSD, or if you needed mass storage.

In that case I'd recommend any sized Hitachi 7200rpm HDD.

>>60921682
>Get an aftermarket 1080 ti. iirc founders edition ones tend to have worse thermals
Should I go Evga or Asus?

>>60922004
Either, or you can go with a Zotac. You're not going to get a bad card from any of these vendors.

>>60922004
Doesn't really matter, you can research yourself about the specific cards, im sure benchmarks exist. I know what EVGA has a great warranty policy.

>>60921798
Case comes with two but they suck ass. Any recommendations on fans?

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>>60921570
t. intel shill

I currently have an Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz and i was wondering what kind of performance i would see with an upgrade to a G4560 as in the OP post.

>>60922052
Small, go with this

>$840 - ANY 2017 title @1080p60 high settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/vYnzyc

>>60921962
They cost exactly the same so it's really down to personal preference.

>>60922059
Ok. Because i am a fucking autist when it comes to this shit. What should i be looking out for when it comes to putting this into an existing build?

>>60922072

Well the Core i7 950 is too old to update. You will need to assemble an entire new machine for a noticable difference.

This build is $840, and will run twice as fast. The video card matches the CPU in performance. Plenty of PSU wattage for some CPU overclocking.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/viperbear/saved/TV8GXL
The build is now $30 less!
This probably won't really be built until the fall, so we'll see how the 1080 ti price goes. I'm also still iffy between 7700k and 1700x for 4k@60. Maybe I'll just go 1440p whatever.
Thanks for your shilling and input I'll be back in a few weeks when I go through a second guessing crisis/panic when I start ordering parts.

>>60922093
Hey, if you wanted to look at a second opinion

>$1390 - ANY 2017 title @ 2160p60 low settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/7C3P6h

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Choosing between these two.

>>60922102
MSI.

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>>60922090
Fuck well alright... I just went out and got a new case i guess i will look into that.
This is my current build btw

>>60922113
Nice! Don't get rid of that old Intel chip. That's a 1st-gen i7 right?

>>60922059
>Ryzen 1400
genuinely curious, shouldn't you go with 1500 instead since the price diff is so small?

>>60922127
He absolutely can, however; the 1500X would bottleneck the GPU.

The 1500X is best matched with the GeForce GTX 1060 6GB.

>>60922123
I believe so. This build is good?

>>60922134
Yeah, that's still a nice machine IMO.

>>60922143
Oh well fuck it's almost 6 years old. And people have been telling me to "Upgrade that peice of outdated shit".

>>60922132
but this build here >>60922059
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/vYnzyc
uses both Ryzen 1400 and GTX 1060 6GB. am I missing something?

I forgot to ask, How common is it to build for 4k and dial back and fourth to 1440p for different games? Knowing I can just do that would make me a lot less silly.

>>60922127
The 1400 is a shitty rec, I agree. The 1500X is like $20 more and a solid 10-15% more powerful due to the higher clockspeeds and more cache. The 1600 at $220 is the real winner though if it's attainable.

>>60922132
You're thinking too narrowly. Just because he'll be bottlenecked by a 1050Ti doesn't mean that it automatically makes sense to NOT spend 40 more dollars for 50% more cores and threads. A good handful of games will also benefit from more threads. 1600 or bust. If the 1400 and the 1500X were say, $140 and $160 respectively I might agree, but they're just too close in price to not spring for the 1600.

>>60922102
Obviously the Prime.

>>60922158
My bad! I meant the 1500X is best matched with the GeForce GTX 1070.

If you would like that instead
>$1000 - ANY 2017 title @ 1440p60 medium settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/h3qt6h

>>60922166
Uh yeah I was going to say.
Nvidia driver doesn't have the same issues on the 4core Ryzens that it does with any 6+ core CPU.

A 1500X @ 4GHz is +/- 5% gaming performance of the i7-7700(non-k), which paces well with the 1070.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999222&cm_re=foam-_-11-999-222-_-Product
Is this foam any good, or is there better sound dampening foam for the money?

>>60922165
Why is it obvious?

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>>60921952
The Gigabyte one has more USB ports and more SATA ports so I'm going to go with that one
Thanks, anon

>>60922166
ahh ok thanks a lot. so to roughly sum it up:
Ryzen 1400 + GTX 1060 6GB => med-ultra 1080p60
Ryzen 1500X + GTX 1070 => ultra 1080p60, med 1440p60
I'll keep that in mind. I wonder where I can get list of CPU-GPU pairings like this.

I want to upgrade to VEGA when it comes out, do you think a 650 watt PSU will be enough for it?

>>60922231
Yes

>>60922219
>Ryzen 1400 + GTX 1060 6GB => med-ultra 1080p60
>Ryzen 1500X + GTX 1070 => ultra 1080p60, med 1440p60
This is complete newfaggy nonsense. These boxes you're putting the CPU/GPU combinations in won't even be valid in year, maybe less when Vega GPUs comes out.

1600 or bust. Stop listening to anyone recommending a 1400 or 1500X.

With 4c/8t, in 3 or 4 years you'll be like someone with an i5-3570K getting wrecked with CPU bottlenecks while the person who sprung for the 3770 or 3770K is still cruising. This is even more of a no-brainer because the 1600 is only a few $ more. Forget the 1400 and 1500X.

>>60922253
They're all price points, anon. You get what you can for the dollar you can give.

But here's a build satisfactory for you

>$1390 - ANY 2017 title @ 2160p60 low settings
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/7C3P6h

Is the Rx-470 coupled with an i7-3770 enough to run dota 2 at Ultra 60f 1080pps?

>>60922285
Plenty

>>60922270
I know you're making recommendations by pricepoint and I'm trying to tell you why that's always been a lazy and shortsighted way to make builds. This is precisely why logicalincrements has gone to shit.

If you can't afford a 1600 then you need to figure out a way to trim $40 off the rest of the build. This is usually so fucking trivial I just cringe every time I see some lame 1400/1500X build paired with a bunch of fat that could be trimmed.

6 cores and 12 threads for $220. You're crazy if you don't buy a 1600.

is a 1060 a significant upgrade from a 970, or would I be better off spending the extra $100 for a 1070?
or should I just wait for 11XX/Vega at this point, hell I've got this far and it still works mostly fine for modern vidya
I just want to get a 4k monitor at some point, and I want to be ready for AC7/Monster Hunter World when they finally drop

>>60922318
Go with the 1070

>>60922318
>is a 1060 a significant upgrade from a 970
nope

>>60922285
Good luck getting a non existant product

>>60922052
just get a ryzen 5 1600

>>60922102
msi

>1600 + Stock
Or
>1600x + Cryorig H7

Mainly gaming, minor overclocking planned. 1600x is cheap right now, so I'm considering moving up if it's worth it.

>>60922380
Stock will do minor overclocking fine.

What sites have reliable reviews and benchmarks (pls no shill)

>>60922413
pcpartpicker

How important is CAS in memory? Is it worth paying another $30 to go from 16 to 15?

>>60922496
CAS is important, but does not make a large impact. It's mostly prestige for a lot more $$$.

And no.

Is a Cryorig H7 much of an upgrade from a stock Ryzen 1600 cooler?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djN9d6

I'm getting the parts for my first decent pc ever, but i know nothing.
This is what i've assembled with the help of some kind anons.

I want to be able to play any game on the market and stream while doing it, other than that it'll mainly be used for watching chinese cartoons.
At current i can barely run skyrim at low res and lowest settings, i want to play modern AAA titles like witcher 3 like everyone fucking else.

I want to optimize this build as much as possible because poorfag, but i'm not willing to give up the power i need to do any of that, so if it takes me a while to get the cash together, so be it.
It's already down to 2k from 2.5k.

Again, i've never built a PC before because i haven't had the cash, so i don't know what else i might need. I didn't even think about fan controllers until i saw the listing, and i don't know if i need one or not, or if i can just plug them in and let them run.

>>60922671
Might as well just get a 7700k if you're planning to spend this much.
You may not even need a fan controller. You could get pwm fans instead and control with your mobo, or 3 pin with adapters.

>>60922701
Another anon said 7700k overheat and so aren't good for overclocking.
I live in a hot area anyways so it wouldn't be ideal.

>>60922701
Also, what exactly does this mean and should i be worried about it?
>The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6Gb/s ports are disabled.

>>60922716
Did this anon suggest a Ryzen instead? Similar performance and cooler.

>>60922733
Yes, but i'm worried about the potential issues of mixing AMD and intel.

>>60922744
>potential issues of mixing AMD and intel.
wut.
They use completely different motherboard sockets.

>>60922756
Driver issues when using an AMD card with Intel processor?

>>60922766
nope. No issues. The drivers work on Intel systems. They just work better with AMD systems. Mainly because Intel isn't going to send prototype processors to AMD to work on driver development.

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>>60922766
What? No issues.

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>>60922701
He apparently lives in a hot place, so a Ryzen would be the better idea.

>>60922829
Alright then, i guess. Which card would you recommend as an alternative to the 1080 or 1080ti?

>>60922839
None. Unless you wait for Vega those are the best cards in the market right now unless you buy a Titan X

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>>60922839
There aren't any alternatives because AMD right now doesn't have any high end GPUs in the market, they're all mainstream budget cards. Vega isn't out yet, Voodoo is dead, and Navi is a long way away.
Either wait for the end of the month since there's rumors of new rx570 and 580s being stocked, or get a 1060 6GB for now.

I think Ima get shit for this but

I have a "Thermaltake Chaser A31 VP300A6W2N White SECC ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case' will a 1080ti fit? When I upgraded from a r9 285 to a 970 the room in the case got a lot more cramped and I want to make
Sure it'll fit :/

How is logicalincrements these days?

>>60922900
Why don't you measure it yourself and then check vs the specifications?

>>60922922
shit.

>>60922922
needs work
when Ryzen came out they fucked up

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>tfw $200 gaming pc

Feels pretty fine actually

>>60922937
Too lazy desu

>>60922981
Then how the fuck will we know?

>>60922988
The power of autism is great

>>60923001
Then you will make it fit

>>60922961
What is it, used prebuilt + 1050ti?

>>60923016
That is woke anon

>>60923021
Yup. HP 8300 and a 1050ti

i5-2470, 8gb ram, 2tb hdd, *never used*, $70

>>60922102
MSI
But honestly both are shit compared to the ASRock 4 Pro, best mATX mobo desu (Prime has no heatsinks by the way, tho the ATX version is really good)

>>60922729
Still wondering whether i need to worry about this or not.

What GPU do I get for my r5 1600 build? Fuck pyramid jews for fucking up the GPU market right when I finally get motivated to build a decent rig.

>>60923184
1060, avoid the 3GB because at that point you might as well get a 1050ti and wait

>>60923192
Was the nvidia GPU optimization issue ever fixed?

>>60923223
Ask those with a Ryzen + nvidia gpu. I think gpu drivers were fixed by nvidia.

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make fun of me

>>60923242
>corsair psu
housefire time

>>60923258
ive had it four years and its worked as intended

>>60922200
Better VRMs. Better UEFI. doesn't take 15 seconds to POST.

>>60922285
There are iGPUs that can do that game at 60fps maxed...
Fucking tard.

>i7-920

3850mhz with turbo boost enabled or 3870mhz with turbo disabled? The price for enabling turbo seems to be exactly 1mhz FSB worth of stability.

Can someone link me to a legit windows 10 activator? I cant get KMSpico to work for shit.

>>60923410
>KMSpico
mstoolkit from mydigitallife

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Which 4GB RX480 do I get?
Are these prices normal or is there a lack of supply?

>>60923485
Good luck finding those, they're all sold out. Sapphire's rx480s are good if noisier compared to MSI.
Avoid Asus AMD GPUs, they have a bad habit of reusing their Nvidia heatsinks/cooling solution.

>>60923504
What about Asus Strix?

>>60923549
Which part of avoid ASUS do you not understand?

>>60923549
You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word avoid.

is it a bad idea to buy a ryzen 1600 pc now and order an rx580 from amazon or wait for it to be in stock again? i could use my old gpu until then (no vidya games tho).
how long till etherium fucking crashes? i haven't upgraded in 8 years and i really wanted to have a full amd setup with 144hz freesync by summer. fuck cryptoniggers.

Putting together a build for the first time ever. I don't care about 4k or even 1440p. Going for a solid 1080/60. Mostly play Final Fantasy 14, indie shit, and Grand Strategy. Not the most intensive shit, I'm mainly upgrading because my current setup is really starting to chug and I want to play Bannerlord nicely.

Currently wondering about 2 different builds:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xsCqM8 or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjCqM8

The first build needs a mobo but I have no idea which to pick. The plan from here for either is to add another stick of RAM and a GPU later on in the year. I have two GPUs that I can use in the meantime a GTX 950X and an R9 270X but I dunno which one to slot in. Thought, tips, replacement parts?

How does a Gtx 1070 and a i5 6600k work together? Does one bottleneck the other? My old ass pc ran a gt610 with some shit processor I can't even remember yet I had no issues with anything, could run 30+ tabs of porn fine (lmao) new PC can't handle 10 tabs of YouTube without crashing video players

>>60923601
>order an rx580 from amazon
Tell me where can you order one. I like a few for myself.

>>60923637
There will always be a bottleneck somewhere unless your CPU GPU outstripes the requirement and setting of the game. With that combo, there should be no bottleneck unless is 1080p144 (CPU bottleneck) or 1440p144 (GPU bottleneck) or 4k60 (GPU).

>>60923424
Please link me the download directly

>>60923601
where are you getting the rx580? share pls

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Best left-handed mouse I can get? Need something cheap, comfortable and reliable.

>>60923607
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQnM7h

>>60923666
Why would you even need a left-handed mouse? There are plenty of lefties that use regular mice.

>>60923683
Cause I've been using a ) shaped mouse for 6 years now and my hand is begging for a change.
Still, what are the best regular, symmetrical mice then?

>>60923711
A Playstation 4 controller. Enjoy the thumbstick navigation.

>>60923640
>>60923662
https://www.amazon.de/GIGABYTE-Radeon-GAMING-Plated-Dual-Link/dp/B071Y7XJY4
"Usually dispatched within 3 to 5 weeks."

I just bought a used sapphire hd 7770 for €20. Was it worth the money? My cpu is a core 2 duo and i'm planning on upgrading to a core 2 quad.

>>60923724
ill enjoy getting a thumb stuck in your mothers cunt rolls, fgt

>>60923676
So what ends up being the difference between the two builds? Is one more powerful than the other? More upgrade-able?

>>60923839
Ryzen stomps all over the i5 at pretty much everything while also being better value for the money.
The Ryzen chips are also on an all new platform that won't be killed until 2020. And even with the 6 core, there's lots of upgrade room with the 8 cores, and the upcoming Zen 2 chips.
By contrast the Intel i5 uses an older LGA1151 platform that's long in the tooth now and due to be replaced soon, and doesn't have much of an upgrade path

>>60923764
Oh so you are hoping for the end of June restock? Is there any guarantee with this shit?

AAAA I JUST HIT XMP FOR MY RAM AND RESTARTED AND NOW IT WONT POST

>>60924152
Reset Bios

>>60924177
HOW IT JUST KEEPS RESTARTING? Theres no CMOS jumper I think

>>60923242
holy shit that GPU sag

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Anybody have a pc part picker link handy for a super budget $400 1050ti build? Just need 8 gb ram and a cheap 1tb wd blue hard drive. I know I need the G4560 processor, and that's all I know

I've browsed this board for like 8 years and don't know shit about computer building. wew

This is some bad shit, im on the AGESA update, i should be able to oc ram to 3200. Plus this is a Samsung B die

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bPB77h

Will be paid in Australian Sheckles.
I'm still sorting out Storage, swapping in and out of shit.
Power supply might be changed depending on what is required.
Cooling will also be decided on by whats left of around an $1,200ish budget.
Any recommendations or info?

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>>60921345

I want to have a no-internet computer separate from my desktop pc rig for writing/work etc.


Is the idea of building a mini-stx pc just for writing absurd? Or is it a good idea?

>>60924313
>absurd
Yes. Getting ahold of parts is a nightmare.

>>60923146
>(Prime has no heatsinks by the way
Isn't that a huge problem?

Is R1600+GTX1080 enough for 1080p@144fps gaming? I can't find any benchmarks

how is this for a budget build? anything i should change

ttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/396PTH

>>60924123
Well I just didn't find them anywhere and only Amazon let's me order now. Even if it takes 5 weeks I'm fine with it. I don't know if I should order now though.

>>60924348

Why would it be a nightmare? Surely I can just order parts online like any PC build

>>60924373
If it takes 5 weeks. That means you are 1 week away from a Vega announcement (end July), a possible price drop or more options of GPU.

>>60924313
its absurd when things like the rasp pi exists get a rasp pi and a 128 gig SD card and use that just for writing

>>60924377
>Surely I can just order parts online like any PC build
no. STX is pretty much manufacturer only at this point. The smallest thing you can make at the moment on the consumer market is mini-ITX

>>60924367
Everything?
Why are you going for DDR3, 2 HDDs and a shitty monitor? Get G4560, cheapest B250 mobo with 4 dimm slots, 2x4GB 2400MHz RAM and IPS 60hz monitor (23" or bigger)

>>60924388
Vega is high-end. It will not impact mid cards like RX 580. Even the small Vega is going to be 300€+ so why should I care?
Maybe I'll just go with nvidia

>>60924436
That is the point. We don't know. We got rused by raja to wait for computex where we got jackshit for info and literally an announcement for an announcement. So here we are.

>>60924398

Ah yeah, I was researching it and decided mini-ITX. I thought mini-stx was a catch-all phrase rather than a specific brand

>>60924474
nope. Mini-STX is even smaller than mini-ITX and being pushed by Asrock and Silverstone IIRC.

>>60924428
is this better? i couldnt find where it had any indication of panel type for monitors

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xg9XzM

What's the ideal fan to go with a Ryzen CPU?

>>60924522
Stock

>>60924488

What do you think of building a budget mini-LTX pc for word processing then? I just want something I can make sure has no internet/distractions

>>60924557
not LTX, ITX. Capital i.
anyways, ITX motherboards are often more expensive and have more sacrifices over a more conventional mATX or ATX motherboard. With ITX, it's generally recommended to grab a board with built in wifi since size and wifi-capability is often the main reason for building it.

>>60924504
yeah it's much better. one thing: do yourself a favour and get at least 1tb hdd (barely more expensive than 500gb) and DO NOT get 5400rpm since it's way slower and shouldn't be used in a pc. P300 1TB is only 45$.

as for the monitor: you can filter for IPS panel on pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#p=1&r=192001080&H=0,61&W=1500,2450&sort=price&page=1 as I said I recommend 23"-24", since it's basically the same price and bigger screen size is always better. check if you can fin Samsung S24F350, it has good reviews and flicker-free technology.

>>60921345
Newfag europoor here
I've 450 euros

>>60924187
Should have bought a prebuild if you're really such a tech illiterate autist.

>>60924652
G4560 + GTX1050(ti). If you need peripherals incl. monitor too you will have to buy used, 450€ is nothing.

>>60924576

Fugg why is this so hard

I guess I could just get a board with no wi-fi capability

Is it better to go with a GTX 1070 but settle with a 1080p 60hz monitor or buy a 1060 but with the Asus VG248QE 144hz monitor?

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Was thinking of getting a 1080ti but now leaning more towards a 1070 since I only need/can go up to 60fps with this monitor + I've read some shit about a 1080ti being bottlenecked by the CPU (don't really get what that means).

I play GTA:O, PUBG, FO4, games like that etc. but will probably end up playing a bunch of other games too.

Currently I can get most settings on high for most games but would like to push to ultra.

1070 the way to go? Not gonna wait for Volta since I want better performance now, plus I could always sell and upgrade later anyway.

So I want to offer a facebook machine to my mum.
I'd go for a mini ITX setup with a pentium G4560 and a 500gb SSD

Is a dedicated GPU necessary, to occasionally watch HD vids on youtube? If not, what's a good 1151 mobo with integrated graphics?

Been waiting 5 years now to upgrade. Seems like there's always something better every year, so I wait for the price to drop and but the time that happens there's something new that I want. So at this point, should I just wait for Vega to be release and see if other high end GPUs drop in price or just fucking upgrade now and get it over with? I've been wanting to upgrade to an i7 6700k but now the i7 X series is announced but dunno how long I'll be waiting for that to release. I just wanna play these new games but don't want to buy hardware that will be obsolete within 2 years

>>60925204
Kaby-Lake X is overpriced trash, not for you
If it's a CPU that lasts you want you don't need to shell out $350 for a 4 cores CPU, you can always spend $200 on a 6 cores and it'll be good to go for the next few years.
Vega seems to be pretty soon, but you can always get a 1080(ti) right now if you're that impatient, i doubt Vega is going to be a comeback in the GPU market the same way Ryzen was (otherwise, we'd knew it)

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>tfw just spent $3000 dollars on pc parts

>>60925368
inb4 7700k

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will 4channers ever top these builds?

>>60925391
>i5 for gaming, i7 for gaming + media + encoding + streaming
It's shit

Sup newfag here. This one is for general purpose and medium gaming.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vwwHTH
Yes I need the CD drive. Any advice would be appreciated.

>>60925391
>recommending i5 when Ryzen r5 exists
>recommending a goddamn i3 when pentium g4560
Those are some pretty damn terrible builds.

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Is this still retarded at this price?

Also why are the prices listed so much cheaper on the Intel website?

>>60925487
The 7350k is good for some very specific purposes that require high single-threaded performance and little else(such as emulation). Otherwise skip it.

>>60925433
>>60925484
are you fucking blind? these are just options

everyone already knows that the poorfags love g4560/ryzeshit

no one would seriously recommend i5s now anyway

>>60925472
Drop to a 1600 and up to a 470/570 with the saved money. You're not losing on much CPU performances (if any, you can always overclock) but you're getting much better GPU performance.

>>60925503
>are you fucking blind? these are just options
Doesn't make them any less terrible.

>>60925498
I guess I'm asking how shitty it is at general multithreaded computing. I have an i5 2400 and comparison sites say that the i3-7350k out performs it in multithreaded applications. I actually really care about singlethreaded performance but I'd like to be able to do shit like record videos and stuff, maybe even stream vidya to my friends on occasion. I'm trying to find info on overclocking the i5 but from what I can gather i'm really stuck between the i3 or i7.

I want that single core clock speed though.

>>60925368
>inb4 intel

>>60924504
>1050 TI $170
Oof

>>60925544
The thing is that unless you overclock it, it's barely more than 10% better than g4560. And if you do overclock it, with the extra money you're spending on decent MOBO and shit you might as well get a r5 1400 which is pretty much twice as fast when it comes to streaming and shit.

>>60925148
The integrated GPU will be fine

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thoughts? possible improvements?

>>60925582
But then I might as well get the i7-7700k

>>60925644
Yeah, except it costs twice as much as the 1400.

Why does everyone here love ryzen so much

>>60925656
Because intel pretty much hasn't released anything worthwhile since sandy bridge.

>>60925651
The single core speed on ryzen/AMD cpu's appears to be shit across the board though. Unless I'm just seeing this stuff wrong none of the benchmarks have any AMD cpu's clocking above like 4 Ghz.

>>60924895
Dude just get a raspberry pi. shit literally comes with word proccessing software and it super tiny. also internet can be disabled

is the gtx 980 any good?

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>>60925117
pls respond

>>60925656
People are bitter about wasting money on AMD and try to trick others into making the same mistake

>>60925707
no trump supporters allowed

>>60925671
It's not as good as intel, but for the most part it's perfectly sufficient. What do you even need the best possible single-core performance for?

>>60925727
Literally neck yourself. He's already the best president we've had in the past 16 years.

Be honest with me

Should I get a 7700k or a 1700 if all I do to stress the cpu is play games (at 3440x1440)

7700k is a little cheaper

>>60925775
>7700k is cheaper
No it isn't, you need to get a cooler with it

>>60925775
better speed with the 7700k. the lower speed but higher cores only hurts for game performance with the 1700

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>>60925742

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>>60925779
>using a tiny stock cooler

>>60925775
The 1700 is a little slower, but not enough to matter unless your target FPS is 100+.

>>60925640
help

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>>60925727
Back to plebbit you autistic commie larper.

>>60925736
Emulators/Dwarf Fortress I'm still saving money until cyber Monday to buy a new PC. I'd definitely pay $200 more for the single threaded performance if I had to. The i3-7350k would be perfect if it wasn't a fucking duo core, it sketches me out. I think I'll just have to follow the benchmarks and get the i7-7700k because it seems to be the only CPU that hits all the checkboxes even if the pricing is kind of steep.

$300 for a CPU isn't really that bad though, its not like I'm replacing this shit every year.

>>60925801
>using a tiny CPU instead of a $1200 threadripper CPU
wow what are you poor?

>>60925802
>>60925785
>>60925779
7700k then?

I mean I don't do any video editing at all, or anything like that

just shitposting and games

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Filthy casual here that just built his first PC, pic related (lolwallgimmick). It works, but the CPU is getting fucked by simple shit like Facebook on Chrome. I've updated the drivers, defragged, cleaned my disks, reinstalled the OS, but there's still massive slowdown. Any ideas on how to fix? Did I get a half-broken CPU or some shit? Running Windows 10 and the integrated graphics card.

The specs are awful, but I just built it to use as a web browser for my living room/trial run for when I drop more dollars on an actual good one.

Parts list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6fs9Yr

>>60925816
Literally doesn't matter. You could even save some money and get a 1600(x).

>>60925801
Seriously aren't stock coolers enough?

>>60925814
Emulators do not require the best single core performance though, not even remotely close. The emulated games are generally very light on the CPU.

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>>60925815
Ah yes this is satisfactory

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>>60925811
Fuck off

>>60925816
Then you'd be wasting money by going with a 144hz CPU when not having a 144hz screen. Save money and get a 1600 instead, it's plentiful enough.

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This is a build I had since 2015 and it was able to handle games pretty well, but I want to switch to 1440p 144hz soon and I don't think that it can keep up with that and modern games. I use the PC mostly for gaymen and sometimes emulation of old games. What should or could I upgrade? My budget is about 1000 euros and I live in germany.

>>60925833
I really like dwarf fortress.

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>>60925832
compare this with the AMD stock cooler
>>60925834

>>60925834
The R7 1700 doesn't come with a wraith stealth though, but nice try. What's your point by the way?

>>60925820
i doubt its the cpu, probably the hdd being shit, boot a live usb to test.

Your build is pretty crap, get the g4560 since the cpu you chose is weaker than shit

>>60925882
Alright, I'll try that. But again, I'm literally only going to use this in my living room for shit like YouTube and Netflix and going "Oh hey look at my woody-ass computer hanging on the wall isn't that neat." I'm gonna build a nice PC in a bit when I've got a grand or so saved up

opinions on CM MasterAir Pro 4?

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>>60925940
Please keep politics out of /g/

>>60925940
Nice pasta kiddo

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i'm scared

>>60925921
Just slap Lubuntu or something on it, I doubt that thing can run Windows very well.

>>60922380
>>60922385
>>60922664
>>60924522


1600s and Ryzen in general are so cool it doesn't really matter. Temp wont be the limiting factor on your OC.

>>60922496
>>60922511
Ryzen seems to be picky with timings at higher speeds, perhaps making it worth it to get the tighter shit.

>>60923223
>>60923235
Haven't had any issues.

>>60925940
Stopped Reading at
>Reddit

Go complain somewhere else

>>60925989
It's really that bad? I've got a 5 year old laptop with similar specs and it's running 10 just fine.

>>60925947
hlep
i wanted to go for a u12s but they stopped selling it here

>>60926082
U12S is overrated and overpriced. Look at Thermalright TRUE Spirit Power/Direct, Macho Rev. B, Cryorig H7 and Scythe Fuma and Mugen 5.

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>>60925850

>>60926031
It's not as if you need windows to watch netflix and shitpost. And with a netbook-tier CPU even if you CAN run windows, a light-weight Linux will make everything that much smoother.

>>60925640
Good. I don't know much about monitors though. The rest is fine.

>>60926161
Well shit, guess it's time to download Lubuntu.

>>60926114
Get a 1070, 1080 or wait for Vega/Volta.
The rest is still fine, upgrade to 16GB RAM if needed only.

>>60926104
>noctua
>overrated
>praises bullshit plastic rgb lgbt coolers

>>60926114
I doubt the 4690k even oveclocked could sustain 144hz in games so you might wanna get a 7700k
But get a 1080ti first. A 1070 won't be able to sustain 1440p144hz and neither would a 1080. See if your CPU can keep up with it and if it can't then do get a new one.

>>60926218
>t. retard
The 120mm version is overpriced and overrated you autistic fuck, go look up the latest reviews.
>rgb leds
Not a single cooler i listed has any leds whatsoever. Take your shitposting and aztism back to >>>/b/ you retarded fuck, this is a technology board.
>plastic
Everything is plastic you retarded cunt.

>>60925148
That cpu has an igpu so a dedicated is unnecessary. Motherboards don't have graphics cards, and a 500gb ssd seems like overkill.

>>60926210
>>60926244
Thanks for the help. I'll wait for Vega and then decide on the GPU, but might end up with a 1080ti.
Do you maybe have a recommendation for a display?

>>60921650
>598s

Comfy as fuck my dude

>>60926329
No, i'm looking for an upgrade myself. Read that Asus makes good ones. High-end is overpriced as fuck and midrange is mostly TN only, but i don't want TN ever again, idk about you.

What should I connect my anti static strap to?

>>60926329
>Do you maybe have a recommendation for a display?
What specifications are you looking for?

>>60926459
Your metal case duh.

>>60926478
Don't black cases have paint on?

>>60926491
Doesn't matter.

Is it possible to change just the fan on the stock Ryzen cooler? Or am I better off upgrading the whole thing?

Looking to overclock and want something that's more effective and quieter if there recommendations. Not too concerned with budget, but I'd prefer to air cool.

>>60926539
Just get a new cooler man

>>60926539
It's possible but not really worth it, you're better off buying a new cooler

>>60926550
>>60926562
Will do, what would you recommend?
Was thinking the Cryorig H7 but that doesn't seem like a huge upgrade, might grab whatever Noctua will fit.

>>60926637
H7 is fine

>>60926659
Is there anything that's a worthwhile step up from the H7?
I want to just grab something top of the line now and never have to worry about it again.

>>60926735
Noctua C14
Make sure it fits your case before you buy it.

Would you people recommend R5 blackout edition?

>>60926806
no.

Are Be Quite Pure Wings 2 good? They're on sale in my local store. I use a regular R5.

>>60926884
Any fans are fine desu

>>60926842
It's the same but the white parts are now black instead
So just as good as the R5

>>60926897
Thanks.

>>60926884
They're quieter than the stock R5 fans and also look pretty rad, what's their price in your local store?

I wanted to build a new PC and there's even a motherboard on the way but someone bought all AMD video cards except 550. I'm very sad right now and I want you all to know that.

>>60926961
Come home white man

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>>60926961
>amd card

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>>60926961
don't blame us, blame AMD for their incompetence

and why do you even want to buy and AMD GPU anyway?

>>60927019
>blame AMD for making GPU good for mining
Are you stupid anon? Should we also blame Nvidia for the shortage of GTX 1070 too?
stupid

which should i pick? 1050 ti ZT-P10510A-10L at $170 or 1060 3gb GV-N1060IXOC-3GD at $230?

>>60926927
If I convert it to usd, it's around $8.

>>60927010
>>60927019
shitposters out

>>60927047
$8 for a 140mm fan?
If so, get one and add it at the front, but considering the R5 already has two 140mm any more than that would be a waste of money

>>60927061
>any more than that would be a waste of money
by that i mean any more than 2 at the front and 1 at the back

>>60926905
The R5 is trash anyways. You got memed. The only reason it was recommended is its understated looks.
Unfortunately, in practice, it looks like a PC case from the mid-90s rather than 2017.
It's mediocre to build in, but holy shit is it ugly in practice. You know why PC cases started looking more and more loud? Because people want computers they can actually look at as a piece of art, not some ugly bland box they hide in a cabinet.

>>60927061
>>60927072
Yes, 140mm. Alright, thanks for the advise.

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>>60927084

>>60927084
Word. P400s and LEDs is great.

>>60927084
Dunno man, i'm more than happy with mine, and it's a great looking case

>>60927151
shut your computer cabinet

>>60926471
I am looking for 1440p with 144hz, maybe gsync or freesync too. 27" would be nice.

>>60927222
Asus PG279Q
Acer x271hu

Or their Freesync variant. 2 of the best 1440p144hz monitors money can buy at the moment.

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r8 my build m8s

>>60927292
>32 GB of DDR3 ram

>>60927305
The first 16 was 75 bucks
the second 16 was free

get mad

>>60927292
>no OC
weak

I just watched a video on watercooling gpu's, and discovered for the first time the existance of stock thermal paste between the gpu and its cooler.

Do you guys ever replace the stock thermal paste on your gpu's? I don't intent to change my cooler out but I usually swap my cpu's paste every few years, seems like I should have always been doing my gpu also

>>60927396
i might be wrong but 4.0Ghz on a 4790 sounds like OC'ing

>>60927456
That would void warranty so no

>>60927456
Only do it when your GPU warranty runs out. It is pretty easy to fuck it up. Also there is really no need to do so desu.

Any reason why my bios when set to DRM frequency auto would put my 2400mhz RAM at 2133mhz instead? I just noticed it after a year. Goddamn.

>>60927539
Offical DDR4 spec is 2133 clock, anything over that is an overclock. Thank god your motherboard doesn't overclock your components on it's own.

>>60927572
I never knew that. So even a 3200 RAM must be set to that frequency and cannot be put on auto? Alright thanks for the info.

>>60927539
That'll be your motherboard being a cheap piece of shit with a native ram speed of only 2133

Shouldn't have jewed out

>>60927603
Its a Z270 tho

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>>60927612
what model

>>60927626
Prime Z270-A

>>60927642
That's weird I have a z270h and it did my 3200 auto

>>60927665
It put my 2400 mhz ram @ 2133.
I had to go into the bios and set the targeted speed. Which was weird and the reason I asked.

>>60925472
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vwwHTH
what the other anon said.

Drop to 1600 and get a better graphics card.

>>60927482
you are. the 4790K starts at 4.0 GHz and OCs to about 4.8

don't mind me, just accelerating the next thread

ASUS or MSI for mobos?

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Haha oh wow

>>60927883
Both are pretty good brands, look into the motherboard feature instead
Though Asus has some x370 motherboard that auto-update their bios (and auto-fail at it, bricking the motherboard) and MSI has noticeably longer than average boot times on both their b350 & x370 boards

>>60927940
Leaning towards "ASUS PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151", can you speak for its quality?

>>60927975
>Intel
why? Just go with an AM4 motherboard and an AMD Ryzen processor instead.

New thread: >>60928031

>>60926961
Just buy a 550 then.