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Why can't Linux be this beautiful and functional?

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Why can't Linux be this beautiful and functional?
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>>60911492
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>>60911492
I know this is bait, but seriously, I can't take anymore of this.
>>>/v/, either actually LEARN informatics or fuck off.
I'm sick, physically and emotionally sick, of your incessant shitposting.
If you don't understand a topic, don't comment on it.
Linux is the furthest away from being obsolete compared to the proprietary and bricked shitfest that is Macintosh software and hardware, or the banal and bloated botware of Micropenis.
If you want play your shitty AAA games (in which they don't even bother anymore), rather than actually contribute to intelligent technology related discussion? That's great.
But newsflash!
We have a containment board for that rubbish:
>>>/v/
>Go home!
>Picture very much related, it is you trying to browse and understand TRUE /g/threads.
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>>60911492
Aww, did /b/ bully you off their board?
Aren't you meant to be posting 'blacks are superior' or 'whiteboys can't compete' threads?
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>>60911499
That's looks like shit, the wallpaper might as well be all black, the icons looks like it were designed by a child and the font rendering is shit, literally 0/10
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>>60911503
I never said anything about games you autist
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>>60911492

>functional
>no tiling vm
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>>60911516
This imagine triggers me.
There is a version of it where they call the penne ravioli.
I just...
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>>60911555
My own post triggers me! REEEEEEEE!
>*image
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>>60911492
Linux can have a much less bloated GUI that macOS and Linux is more functional for programming than macOS. That's why I moved from Mac OS X to Linux 5 years ago.
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Oh, it's this thread again.
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>>60911492
Honestly i use a mbp myself but not everything is really functional, even far from it sometimes.

Ever tried to open a download with a different application from the download button in the task bar? Ever tried to forward a picture from fb to tg via easy copy and paste or vice versa? Ever tried to use a mouse that is not apple? macos is nice, but some of it is just very dysfunctional and at times even more restrictive than windows.
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>>60911573
>more functional for programming [citation needed]
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>>60911591
What a random image...
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>>60911492
>Why can't Linux be this beautiful and functional?
Little to no interest.

>>60911573
>Linux is more functional for programming than macOS
Kill yourself. I have the exact same tools and utils on macOS as I have on any Linux installation.
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>>60911615
Pretty much every programmer uses it you tech illiterate moron.
>Webm is you versus me.

>>60911635 see >>60911503 and never post on /g/ ever again: goto >>>/v/
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>>60911617
That room would be really cold or expensive to heat if it were real
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>>60911656
I still think it looks cool... :(
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>>60911649
1) I never said Linux was obsolete
2) You didn't even address my point
3) You're a fucking faggot
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>>60911503
Nigger
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>>60911666
>>60911676
Don't even try and step, we both know how this ends... you don't make it to either the icepick, the decanter or the fountain pen.
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>>60911696
Whatever, ITG.
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>>60911503
he says what we're all thinking
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>>60911635
Linux is more convenient in my opinion because it has official maintained repositories and everything including GUI can be automated using shell scripts.

MacOS is too bloated by normie tier useless garbage, on Linux I don't have to have this, I can just configure my system from a minimal installation by installing only what I need.
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>>60911676
What an argument, go back to /pol/ you fucking mongoloid.
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>>60911492

It's even more functional.

It's not as beautiful because almost nobody cares. The ones who care are at /fa/ and /lgbt/.
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Linux

Mac is for faggots and monkeys that don't know to write a single line on terminal
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>>60911750
We must adopt the white supremacy and homophobia from /pol/. Pajeets and faggots must be excluded from /g/.
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>>60911745
>Linux is more convenient in my opinion because it has official maintained repositories
This is a distro specific argument, macOS comes with many options for package managers too, such as Homebrew or Finks or MacPorts. Ubuntu has a vast number of packages while minimalist distros may not have, so it is distro specific.

>everything including GUI can be automated using shell scripts.
There's nothing preventing you from using shell scripts on macOS, it comes with bash like any other NIX, and for GUI automation, you can obviously use something like Automator scripts.

>MacOS is too bloated by normie tier useless garbage, on Linux I don't have to have this, I can just configure my system from a minimal installation by installing only what I need.
You can obviously strip macOS down to just Darwin-core and then use it like any OpenDarwin system too, but I agree that this would defeat the purpose of using macOS in the first place. I for one, having used Linux since 2002, am sick and tired of broken userland applications, having Thunderbird segfault because it can't handle the latest Exchange protocol etc. I enjoy the normie tier "garbage" such as a working mail client because it just works. But yeah, to each their own, I guess. You like what you like.
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>>60911774
"Nigger" isn't an argument, you disgusting subhuman degenerate. Do the white race a favour and remove yourself from the gene pool.
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>>60911769
>reddit
What the fuck...
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>>60911827
Asian qts are the only acceptable source of future European female genetics. ;)
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>>60911827
Now I understand why people call you Nigger.
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>>60911769
Take your rice elsewhere, also

>facebook
>twitter
>youtube
>soundcloud
>outlook
>reddit
>4chan bookmakrs

Just KYS
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>>60911845
>People
You being a samefag isn't plural, Rajesh the LARPing Klansman.
Learn English.
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>>60911492
Linux can look however you want it to. Even like that, if you're into Mac clones.

Define "functional." You're probably confusing that term with user-friendly. macOS is more restrictive than Linux distros. For me, it's more important to have more freedom and features, even if it's not user-friendly to the average tech-illiterate. To get the features I want, to get it to behave the way I like, takes some customizing, but that's okay, because when I'm done it's the best system for me, instead of a one-size-fits-all system designed for normal people who just browse the web.
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>>60911845
>people
>implying more than one
Nice try.
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>>60911769
>unixporn
this faggy trend of putting "porn" at the end of every hobby needs to fucking die.
>food porn
>gun porn
>computer porn

fucking fags
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>>60911492
OSX UI is fucking shit, I have no idea why everyone wanted to imitate it.
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Install Gentoo
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>>60911867
>>60911879
We must adopt white supremacy and homophobia from /pol/. Pajeets, faggots and SJWs like you must excluded from here.
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>>60911591
The /g/ck/ thread?
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>>60911936
Mentally challenged kids like yourself should be the first thrown into the ovens tbqh.
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>>60911503
/Thread
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>>60911936
SJW?
What?
How am I campaigning for social justice at this very moment in time?
Not to mention, I quite literally just made a soft racist joke.
You 'right-wingers' (pro-tip you're being played by MUH GLOBALISTS into voting in their puppets) are as delusional and brainwashed as the neo-liberals you so enjoy to bitch about.
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>>60911774
Oooh so edgy, you can have a Kekistan Point now, little whiteboi.
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>>60911617
Nice piggy
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>>60911975
I'm not a strict right winger. I'm for Jews because they're superior, smart and hard-working people they advance science and the technical progress, but I'm against pajeets because they're the cheap low qualified labour who are flooding IT just because of the left-wing pressure on IT companies. It makes things worse not to mention their cultural difference from the white Europeans.

I like that /g/ is still has influence from /pol/ and in general people are free to express their dislike toward pajeets.
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>>60912037
(‿)(o^▽^o)(* ^ ω ^) どうもありがとうございました (* ^ ω ^)(o^▽^o)(‿)
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most certainly, picture related
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>>60912092
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
HOLY FUCK
That's the most cringe piece of bullshit i've READ
>I g-g-g-g-g-get my p-pop-politics from /pol/
>i'm sooooooooooooooo enlightened
Jews are a middle eastern spook, literally abrahamism raped the west
the majority of the basal blocks of society you enjoy now were laid by pagan europeans in greece and rome
but no no, you keep circlejerking about muh christianity purism and loving the jews for their 'european' culture :'D
neo-pol is worse than old pol
and pajeets, they invented the basal blocks for modern arithmetic while your MUUUH ABRHAMISM was busy burning books and trying to reverse the pagan progressivism of the late classical era and early pre-modern era
stfu you bluepilled normie scum
you're about as enlightened as the dark room you sit in to jack off to lauren northern and trumpite bullshit
kys post-haste
merci :3
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>>60911617
it's sage, cause this guy thinks he's being clever.
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>>60912185
Did me posting a picture of your mummy dearest trigger you, fatboy? Sowwy. :3
>pic of you xoxoxoxo
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>>60912166
>neo-pol is worse than old pol
This is what /pol/ always was though.
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>>60912234
nah, slight difference
they went from hating jews to loving jews
or maybe closet loving jews, to openly loving jews
who knows?
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>>60911492
>make a thread
>thread turns into jew hating

Everytime
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>>60912251
/pol/ is anti-Semitic I was talking about me. My proposition is to keep racism toward pajeets from /pol/ here.
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>>60912386
To be fair, from what I've been they mostly levy hatred between Africans and Muslims (who tend mostly to be Middle Eastern).
>American /pol/: Africans then Muslims
>European /pol/: Muslims then Africans
Jews are sort of an afterthought.
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>>60912166
It's interesting but how it's related to the modern technology and /pol/?

Jews advance the technology, pajeets are shitting it, faggots are poisoning the society this is my personal point.

/pol/ has its own agenda, the things I like from /pol/ that /pol/ have the common sense to insist on keeping shitskins outside the white countries and don't spread degenerate faggottry in the society.
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>>60911516
>the icons looks like it were designed by a child
So just like MacOs?
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>>60911499
tho that wallpaper is horrible
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>>60912499
I had moved from Windows to MacOSX, MacOSX had really good GUI and the robust UI/UX teem. It's primarily their perfect work which made iPhone successful. But it was until I've got redpilled and installed Ubuntu, it was the first step in my journey in the UNIX-like world, after that my daily drivers were Gentoo, FreeBSD, Debian.

The thing is that if you have a good experience with shell and know how things work you don't need half of the GUI macOS offers to a user. Linux is enormously highly customisible and configurable, you can build a system you like.
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>>60911492
Because Linux is busy being
A E S T H E T I C
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>>60912668
>Redpilled
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Autists cannot into user interfaces
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>>60912668
>if you have a good experience with shell and know how things work under the hood
fixed that for me
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>>60912743
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jef_Raskin
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>>60911492
Because it's foss
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>>60911492
>Why can't Linux be this beautiful and functional?
Linux is made by a bunch of volunteers. Basically people who can't get a job.

Linux is for people who have nothing better to do. It's for people who believe that doing something the hard way means that they're smarter than you. They believe that wasting your time away on doing everything manually is a badge of honor. These people don't understand that the point of computing is to accomplish something, not waste your life away on doing boring, banal shit the hard way.

Linux users are nothing more than modern-day luddites.
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>>60912891
>Linux is made by a bunch of volunteers. Basically people who can't get a job.
Oh yeah, like poor Linus Torvalds... oh no, wait, he's a multimillionaire.
Or perhaps all of the corporations who use it:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category
>Smartphone, tablet: 68.31%(Android)
>Server: 66.6–37% (of the known-for-sure lower bound of Linux share: Ubuntu 35.8%, Debian 31.9%, CentOS 20.6%, Red Hat (RHEL) 3.3%, Gentoo 2.7%, Fedora 0.9%)
>Supercomputer: 99.79% (Custom)
>Mainframe: 28% (SLES, RHEL) or 72% (z/OS) UNIX System Services
>Embedded: 29.44% (Android plus other non-Android Linux)
>It's for people who believe that doing something the hard way means that they're smarter than you.
>They believe that wasting your time away on doing everything manually is a badge of honor.
>These people don't understand that the point of computing is to accomplish something, not waste your life away on doing boring, banal shit the hard way.
No, people use it BECAUSE they understand computing.
Linux is used by superusers and institutions who need the most utility out their information technology.
Linux is open source and because of that and its philosophy you have a greater range of control over automation and customisation than any of the 'user-friendly' operating systems; because they're so proprietary (Mac) or locked down (Windows).
>Linux users are nothing more than modern-day luddites.
First of all, it is Luddites, with an uppercase L.
Secondly, you're using the term incorrectly:
>someone who is opposed or resistant to new technologies or technological change.
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/luddite
The only people here who are against REAL progress, rather than just updating the GUI or adding on some gimmick are the corporate technology firms, like Apple or Microsoft.
Normally I'm just memeing when I say:
>You have no idea what you're talking about.
However, in this case, you really don't, >>>/v/
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Why can't macOS have good package management?
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>>60913166
https://brew.sh/
https://www.macports.org/
http://www.finkproject.org/

Stay mad, Poojeet.
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>>60911492
because apple spent more than 50 millions of dollars on R&D in GUI ergonomic? Because the guy behind gnome had a secret agreement with Apple to keep gnome shitty?
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Deciding between using a Linux distro, W7 or W10 for new lower mid tier build. Mostly gonna do gaming/programming. Will Linux gimp muh games?
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>>60913331
>Will Linux gimp muh games?
no. but, https://lutris.net/

you shall install w10 with WSL
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>>60913227
>can't manage your entire system with a single package manager
>need 50 different tools that conflict with each other
Did you miss the part where it said good?
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linux is fine, i like it very much.

but once you see font rendering on mac, you just cant go back
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>>60913941
I fail to understand your point.
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>>60914017
not even close, linux is great but text rendering sucks.
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>>60914117
>not even close
You're right, Linux looks better. Put the unscaled images next to each other, mine is much less blurry.
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>>60914017
Mac font rendering is GOAT
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>>60914147
not even going to argue with something that is so fucking obvious, youre either trolling or blind, and i dont have the patience for it atm
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>>60914167
Chinese botnet
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>>60914178
That's not an argument, it's just a statement. I can say TempleOS font rendering is GOAT. Can you show me how macOS beats my screenshot?

>>60914193
>hurr le trolling, so obvious
Whatever kid, enjoy your blur.
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>>60913095
You're not Linus.
You're not the owner of a multi billionaire company.
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>>60914216
>unironically using kid
im surprised you didnt also include a carrot smiley face
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>>60914199
And yet it's beautiful and (maybe) functional as OP wants.
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>>60914227
I don't think he said he was, anon.

>>60914238
>carrot
Made me laugh, thanks
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>>60914227
What? Can you even read?
>Linux is made by a bunch of volunteers. Basically people who can't get a job.
>Oh yeah, like poor Linus Torvalds... oh no, wait, he's a multimillionaire.
>Or perhaps all of the corporations who use it
Also, other institutions be they tax funded or donation funded.
Those, funnily enough, are jobs, that pay.
So, no, you're still a fucking retard.
Try and strawman me, you cunt.
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It already is. Macintosh is a proprietary Linux distribution.
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>>60911649
What is this for?
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>>60914345
Companies use Linux because it's free, universalized and run on shitty hardware without problems. If Microsoft or Apple had a better OS solution for servers that was cheap and reliable like Linux, companies would adopt it because nobody gives a fuck about open source and "MUH FREEDUMS" (see BSD for instance, it's not even free software but companies use it on servers anyways but it isn't as popular as linux just because it's behind in many aspects.
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>>60914400
They also develop it and pay people for developing it, you retard.
The same with institutions, they pay people for developing it, you retard.
Android, for instance, is a Linux distro that people PAY for and people get PAID to programme.
If I were you, I'd stop. :)
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>>60914400
>shitty hardware
Ah, yes, like those 99.79% of SUPERCOMPUTERS.
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>>60914400
I don't understand how this helps your point. You're basically admitting Linux is the best solution.
Also
>shitty hardware
I didn't know the Top 500 supercomputers had shitty hardware.
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>>60914400
Also, companies and superusers use it for:
>Linux is open source and because of that and its philosophy you have a greater range of control over automation and customisation than any of the 'user-friendly' operating systems; because they're so proprietary (Mac) or locked down (Windows).
In other words, you literally have more control over what the OS is doing than you would with your mythical Mac and Windows OSes.
You'd know this, if you actually understood the topic and weren't just a neo-/g/ /v/ memeing piece of shit.
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>>60913252
>Because the guy behind gnome had a secret agreement with Apple to keep gnome shitty?

[citation needed]
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>>60911492
>homOSeX
>beautiful and functional
you have to go back to
>>>/r/reallywackytictacs
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>>60914199
Still better than American botnet
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>>60914446
>>60914449
"MUH SUPERCOMPUTAHS"
Do you own a supercomputer? no you don't you fucking idiot.
Nevermind the fact that most servers are just a giant stack of cheap old ass xeons that perform like potatos compared to most desktop cpus nowadays.
>>60914422
And yet most android developers are just codemonkeys making shitty unoptimized apps while the system itself is a laggy piece of shit and Google doesn't give a fuck because they just want to sell cheap plastic phones with a decades old system.
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>>60914677
>"MUH SUPERCOMPUTAHS"
>Do you own a supercomputer? no you don't you fucking idiot.
>Nevermind the fact that most servers are just a giant stack of cheap old ass xeons that perform like potatos compared to most desktop cpus nowadays.
None of this is an argument. You said it ran on shitty hardware, you were shown how it also runs on the best hardware in the world, now you're shifting the goalposts.
I don't use Linux because it runs well on supercomputers, I use it because it's better than macOS and Windows at the things I care about.
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>>60914677
You have literally no argument.
It wasn't even AIMED at me in the first place, so that makes:
>Do you own a supercomputer? no you don't you fucking idiot.
Utterly irrelevant as you're trying to alter the topic to fit your argument (that isn't valid).
>Nevermind the fact that most servers are just a giant stack of cheap old ass xeons that perform like potatos compared to most desktop cpus nowadays.
Spurious cherrypicking, so also disregarded.
>And yet most android developers are just codemonkeys making shitty unoptimized apps while the system itself is a laggy piece of shit and Google doesn't give a fuck because they just want to sell cheap plastic phones with a decades old system.
And yet still get paid more than you. ;)
Anyway, I can see you have no argument left and should really learn some discourse and rhetoric you mook.
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>>60914745
t. Rajesh who thinks 4 figures is a jackpot
>>60914738
Thing is you tard, companies that can spent this much money on hardware would SURELY be interested on developing a system better than linux but the problem is that would cost EVEN MORE money and TIME which is something they DEFINITELY don't want to waste. But keep fooling your self thinking that this situation will never end, soon Linux will be replaced by something miles ahead of it.
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>>60914909
>My opinion


>The facts
Present some.
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>>60914909
>like miles ahead of it
Aka Microsoft Windows 10
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>>60911656
this, also you need a ladder to water the plants.
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>>60911492
linux people dont really care about gooeys
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>>60911769
>onodera clone #26438
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r8 m8 pls no h8
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When my life goes too well I pay hookers to lick my poop hole
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>>60912701

> WinXP toolbar
> WinXP Wallpaper
> Classic style window borders
> Calls this shit a e s t h e t h i c
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>>60911656
not in third world countries like brazil
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>>60911492
Because Linux in general has to be shit, otherwise Micro$haft couldn't sell us these sweet windows :^)
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Rate this cool Windows desktop.
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>>60911649
MacOs is more popular OS for programmers than Linux ( but it wasn't in the past). So you are just wrong.
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>>60915691
Of course he didn't account for web "devs", but they don't count so he is still right.
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>>60914167
That looks amazing first macOS equivalent I have seen.
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>>60915335
0/10 fucking hate it
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>>60915691
Actual programmers, you fucking moron.
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>>60915651
how's it going, Jordan
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>>60916266
Good, just watching one of Terry's latest videos - 11FBINiggerHunter.MP4
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>>60915867
:(
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>>60914677
shut up, nigger. your stupid 'arguments' got stomped on so hard I feel embarassment from reading your subhuman responses.
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>>60918432
t. butthurt Lincucks user :^)
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>>60918485
t. nigger
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>>60911503
is this fresh pasta?
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>>60918527
>be nigger
>spend welfare on mac
kek, I'm looking at proof that niggers are not homo sapiens.
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>>60911863

>maybe if I act like I never go on none of those website people on the internet will think I'm tough
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>>60911750
Nigger
If that gets you genuinely mad you have a problem
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>>60918555
I made it, yes.
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>>60911492
Yeah sure thing OP, your special snowflake OS isn't really special since you could literately get fedora and get the macOS feel and look, plus if you don't want to spend 5 hours customizing to your liking there's always elementaryOS

>t. a fedorafag
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>>60911492
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>>60911492
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60919210
>>60919173
they both look like shit what are you talking about
just get a Mac already
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>>60919410
>fagOS
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>>60919173
>elementaryOS
Which is horrible to use. Once you get past the pretty-pretty it's even less macOS-like than Windows. Directories full of files the user has no use for.
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>>60919410
Yeah sure thing let me spend over $1500 on a shitty low watt dual core i5, 8gb of RAM, 256gb proprietary SSD which I can't even swap out plus a shitty gimmick strip of glass which replaces all over the function keys.

Excellent use of your money there
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>>60919454
>Directories full of files the user has no use for.
What do you mean by this?
It's standard like gnome does with standard documents, download, music, videos folder.
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>>60916260
I'm talking about actual programmers
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>>60919663
It's actually cheaper and better than similar laptops
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>>60914147
> not even close, linux is great but text rendering sucks.
Just look to the stems and ascenders in the t, h, r and f characters, they look blury, grained and deformed, while in Linux they're consistent and clear.
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>>60911492
when your stock supports the entire US economy, then it's an indicator that the company can hire talent and PAY THEM WELL to develop a functioning OS.

Linux will never be like this-- ever. Linux distros is a kid with ADHD, never finishing a thought or going through with a task.
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>>60911499

it doesn't matter how many themes you throw at linux, it's still a disaster to work with unless you basically live and breath through the terminal. until it is just as easy to do things on linux as it is on mac or windows, it's shit and the vast majority of people won't bother with it.
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>>60911492
>Beautiful
subjective
>Fuctional
no. Also
>1200x630
LMAO
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>>60919173
That looks atrocious.
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>>60919663
build a hackintosh then you poor faggot
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>>60911869
No it can't.
Try to put chromium tabs in the title with gtk+ _[]x
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>>60922092
>No it can't.
What do you mean by this?
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>>60913095
sounds gay
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>>60922229
No, with gtk+ theme buttons. You just can't do it.
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You can make nearly any GNU/Linux distro look like that. Solus can look like that almost out of the box.
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>>60920797
let me know when you get arthritis from having to point and click every time you need to do something
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>>60920797
Name 3 essential functions you can easily accomplish in a GUI on OSX, but need ``advanced" terminal skills to accomplish on something like Ubuntu or most distros with a DE.
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>>60911503
thanks for posting this
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>>60911898
agreed
it's really fucking annoying
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>>60918660
people think you're gay for going there, not that you are weak... although you probably are anyway
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>>60922880
But you can't do same or better UX, you little silly
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>>60911492
>gaysex
>beautiful and dunctional
>>>/lgbt/
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>>60915335
it's fine. i'm not a fan of the taskbar, though.
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>>60911503
I feel bad for even posting on /g/ when I don't know shit about computer science or anything like that.
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