/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>60906293
Based lewd OP awakens

>>60906293
Glad to see a proper thread.

>>60906293
I love you Chihaya!

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Post em

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>>60906614
No waifu slot? WTF with this template.

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>>60906614

>>60906293
Is this going to be deleted too?

for gaming and movies which one's better, AKG712 pro or monolith m1060?
i currently have and ODAC/O2 amp/dac, is that enough to drive the AKG's?

>>60907260
K712 and yes

>>60907284
thanks!

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>>60907191
is it really too lewd?
would pic related be more appropriated?

Request template:

>Budget
>Location
>Source
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

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>>60906614

>>60906293

>Budget - up to $350, possibly $400
>Location -Australia
>Source - PC
>Type of headphone - Wireless if possible
>Open or closed - closed
>Comfort level - comfy enough
>Sound signature - Neutral
>Past headphones - Crappy gaymen headset

>>60906293
Why is she so flat?

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>>60906293
Save me.

>>60908139
Return that usb DAC immediately. They've been compromised by chinkshit.

>>60908209
Wasn't that only the Sabrient that had the chink chip-set change which caused lower voltage?

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This thread is the HD600 to the other threads HD598. The MSR7 to their M50x. The HE400i to their HE350. The K712 to their K702. The MDR-1000X to their MDR-100ABN. This thread is the true thread, the real thread.

>>60908227
No, its been swapped out with the exact same chipset on 5 other usb DACs too. You're also putting your 598's in that thing so you'll be getting lower volumes and shittier sound along with the mic.

Why do my msr7's have a raised plastic edge on the right earcup? it makes it really uncomfortable

>>60908250
The headphone is fine; this is the sennheiser hd 598 cs which are not only easy to drive but also don't produce white noise unless the mic is plugged in. The thread "USB dongles for Mod Mic users and others" indicates that the syba usb adapter as early as January 2017 still eliminates white noise without problem.

Onboard audio is Realtek ALC 887, and I know that there is talk that realtek has compatibility issues with the modmic (I even updated it to the latest manufacturer driver).

Honestly if this doesn't work then the only options I can think of is a 100 dollar dac/amp with mic input, xonar dsx soundcard, or a new mic.

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>>60907464
Maybe you can do a little cleaning?

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>>60908235
You've got anything to say about those kz zs3? Been in my sight for a while. Also want to try these Pioneer SE-A1000.

>>60908432
They don't compete with anything else on that picture in terms of sound. Comfy for IEMs though.

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>>60908139
>>60908209
Whats the difference between a DAC and a soundcard?

>>60908476
A soundcard is a DAC. If it doesn't exclusively have line level outputs it would have an amp of some type on it too.

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m1060 or he400i for babbys first planar?
I've lost hope that the PM3 will price drop

>>60908396
>>60908385
bose and ultrasone?

>>60908578
I definately see the ultrasone, I can't quite place the bose tho.

>>60908476
Sound cards synthesize sound and can add effects to the samples. DACs only change analog signals into digital which is why they bypass the interference inside of the computer; removing white noise (that static you hear in people's mics/your headphones).

I guess my reply got lost in a previous thread, but would a O2+odac be a significant upgrade to the Fulla 2 should I decide I need more power? I don't want a Schiit Stack since I don't have space for it.

>>60908687
Probably easier to get a Magni2 and use the Fulla2 as the DAC.

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>>60908687
How much power that you need? Aside from arguably planar and electrostats, O2 is already fine for almost everything. Heck, I even bought some resistor so I can tune my volume easier for some IEMs.

>>60908548
Who are these semen demons?

I hope this is the right place to ask. I want to play some vidya and have an ATXM50x and am borrowing a Razer headset with their 7.1 surround sound. Are the M50s going to end up being better or the Razer. My friend let me borrow the Razers to test before I buy.also the M50s are 3.5mm jack not USB

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>>60909704
The M50s are going to be multiple times better. No contest.

>>60908235
You've got something to say about k702s?

>>60909757
Never heard them. Apparently they sound the same as the K701 though.

>>60908235
>KZ ZS3
>Has picture of ZST
nigga what

>>60909913
oops

>>60908548
M1060 is a bit better, especially once modded. 400i is pretty bad. Also, M1060 has a 5 year warranty if shit gets fucked. Hifiman's build is one thing, but the fact that they are so shit at helping people after their product breaks is just plain dirty. Monoprice actually has decent customer service.

Tho honestly, both are bested by a HD600/650. If you can, look for a used HE560.

M1060 is only really worth it when modded imo. Audeze vegan pads add another $70 USD + ~$20 or so for modding materials. 400i is just eh.

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>>60909957
>M1060
Very technically flawed headphone, I'd call it unlistenable. And you can't fix it with EQ. Avoid.

>>60908235
Can you tell me how 400i compares to HD600? Especially for weeb music.

>>60910978
Most weeb music is really badly mastered, especially idol music. That stuff tends to sound better on the HD600 due to the slightly recessed treble. For stuff that's well mastered, it's a toss up. For stuff with any sort of bass emphasis, I refuse to listen to it with the HD600.

>>60911014
So if I only listen to Vocaloid shit HD600 should be good enough, yes?

>>60911101
You might want to look into something with even more recessed treble. Lots of vocaloid songs sound harsh even on HD600s.

>>60911101
>HD600
Are excellent all-rounders, and particularly good at female vocals and strings.
>alternative cans
Might sound better to some people at some specific niches, but as all-rounders they just lose.

>Budget
<$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung S7, iPod touch 3rd gen
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Moderate (2 hours at least)
>Sound signature
Bassy or V-shaped
>Past headphones
Piston 3s, Sony XB500, Symphonized NRG, SOL Tracks (got them for $15, not bad at all for on ear)

I'd prefer a removable single side cable, but that isn't necessary. I'd also prefer a braided cable. A braided cable is much more important if I can't remove the cord. A right angle plug would be nice as well.
My Sony XB500s just shit their pants after 4 years of consistent use. Great headphones, but the cord was annoying as fuck and they looked like I had tires glued to my ears. I'd prefer something that won't attract a ton of attention in public or at least looks nice (like the M40).

>>60911390
sony mdr 100AAPL

>>60911404
Seems like a good fit but they're around $50 over my max budget. I found ones on eBay new for $100 but they're only in the blue or red, which are honestly two of the worst shades of blue and red I've seen in a while.

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>>60906293
Interesting study which was recently published.

>No correlation between headphone frequency response and retail price

>web article
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1121/1.4984044
>pdf of the article
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044

>In total, measurements for 283 headphones
[in-ear (IE), supra-aural (SA), and circumaural (CA)] were acquired.
>Based on the evaluation of the mean, variance, PCA, and mean square error with
respect to a target function, no correlation could be observed between the measured
magnitude response and retail price of headphones.

>>60911485
I bet you'd get the same results with 2 channel loudspeaker setups.

>>60911497
Probably, after a certain price point. Loudspeakers aren't as cheap to produce as headphones. Proper enclosures, drivers, crossover components add up and they have to make a profit, too.

>>60908123
Flat(HD600) is justice.

>>60911547
HD600 has bad bass roll off. Its driver is also oppai shaped to some extent. Planars are the true justice.

>>60911497
I'd expect that too but I also think you wouldn't find a variance consistently this large.

>>60911663
You'd be surprised m8.

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How come akg is the only company who can make headphones that sound and look sexy at the same time?

>>60911689
We'd need that study tbqh.

>>60911701
Sexiness is in the eye of the beholder.

Hasn't AKG sound changed in the recent years though? I've listened to their K701 and K551 a good bit back in the day, and recently got K845BT also. The last one sounds way bassier than the other two.

>>60911716
>he fell for the wireless meme

>>60911744
I didn't get wireless for sound quality. I got it exactly because I want it to be wireless. I've got enough wired headphones as-is.

>>60911758
Why are you criticizing a headphone for its sound quality if you got it for a gimmick?

>>60906293
>no vag showing
I want the real OP back.

>>60911701
This. I really don't get how anyone can think HD598 and HD600 look good.

>>60911779
I didn't say it's worse. Just different.

>>60911701
AKG stuff doesn't sound that good in my opinon. Regardless, other companies like OPPO and Sony can make good shit.

>>60911868
Yeah they make all of their new stuff in chinkland.

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>>60909691
I can't find a fault with this setup. What speakers do you use?

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>>60906614
Foobar2000 and Spotify
ODAC+O2 combo
HD 800, Etymotic ER-4S

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I've been lusting after Focal Elear recently, but can't really justify getting any more headphones for myself at the moment.

>>60907795
Bowers & Wilkins P5 Wireless

>>60908476
DACs are external soundcards, the advantage is that by being outside your pc they're not affected by whathever EM interference from the rest of the pc resulting in a cleaner signal

>>60912230
Just sell some of your shit, there's no way you use all of those pairs of headphones. (If you actually do, I'm genuinely curious as to what you use each headphone for).

has anyone tried the Hifiman Edition S?

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Any idea which graph should I based on for EQ'ing? Its feels kinda off-putting when I EQ'd the colored ones.

>>60912757
HE560 is for general use, RS1i for mostly metal music, Focal Spirit Pro for gaming when sound is important. DT1350 seems to work the best with a VR headset. QC25 is the go-to portable headphone, with Focal Sphear being the IEM backup when I need sunglasses. K845 is for portable home use when doing household chores. The rest I don't honestly use too much anymore.

>>60913050
>graph
You can do it with any. Just need to know your target and what sort of compensation was used. If you don't have a target, don't look at any graph in detail and just go straight to the final part of equalizing the headphones with sine sweep as a reference.

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What is the second best headphone ever made behind the HD600?

>>60906614
regrettably I am nigger tier poor

I got these headphones on sale 5 years ago, motherboard from a friend 4free

I hope to get a riser cable soon so I can use my SBLive! CT4780, which is pretty good. (The motherboard's design causes the PCI slot to be physically obscured/obstructed by a plus-size PCIe x16 card.)

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>>60913353
(neglected peectchyur)

>>60913310
Don't ever post waifu2x'd images again.

Any opinions on the Pioneer HRM-7?
Can get a good deal on them. Trying to make up my mind between those, Beyer DT 770 pro's, Audio Technica ath-m50x/m40x or Sony's 7506's.

>>60906923
oh no
you're retarded

>>60908235
why no snow halation
well, Start: DASH!! is really lovely too

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>>60911485
I've been saying for years that KSC75 literally sound better than most headphones at any price range. Not surprising.
>>60913404
>mfw

>>60910898
Debatable if that ortho-wall is audible. A few mods to fix it anyway.

>>60913522
If you look at that slope and its dB, you can see that it will most likely last long enough for the human ear to perceive a difference. It's "debatable" but just barely.

>>60911547
I concur. Flat is justice.
HD600 ftw

>>60913495
Snow Halation is stupidly popular.
Yet datte datte aa mujou is the best.

>>60913495
I like Susume->Tomorrow from that album the most.

>>60912230
Elears suck. They're a HD650 with exaggerated flaws and better bass, build and comfort. Either save up for a Utopia or go for something else.

>>60913050
Use raw measurements.

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>>60912008
Dali Zensor 3's. Glorious.

https://www.whathifi.com/dali/zensor-3/review

Is the NFB-11 guy from before here? Why'd you say it's superior to the schiit uber stack?

>>60913495
Too poor at the momemt, shit just works.

>>60906293
OP is doing god's work. Well played.

>>60913177
>>60913695
So, I'll had an easier time if I want to target the equalizer to neutral measurement with the raw measurement right?

>>60914110
Chihaya is good taste.

>>60910898
>unlistenable
most reviews say they're unbeatable for their price and compare sound quality with the LCD-2 and HD650

>>60915850
kek

>>60913717
Are those on the stand MSR7's? How do you like them, thought about buying them.

>>60910898
I wonder what and why is it resonating like that. Any phase and FR plots?

>>60914205
It doesn't matter. As long as you know how your target response should look like relative to the graph you are using as a reference, you can do it. I advise not touching the treble from plots. Stick to bass and midrange and then use sine sweeps to do the treble.

>>60916589
>I advise not touching the treble from plots.
If you have a raw measurement or a measurement with a target curve you like, you can use plots as a reference for treble peak magnitude and width and use sine sweeps to locate the precise location of those peaks with the headphone interacting with your ears. Using the plots as reference for filter magnitude and width should save you a lot of time sine sweeping, as they'll typically be close if not exactly the same as what you hear; the locations of the peaks will usually be slightly different to your ears, though.

>>60910898
Reducing the amplitude of the resonant frequency with EQ will certainly reduce the total decay time of the resonance.

>>60908548
>>60909336
Is that some Time Travel Shoujo I see?

>>60916778
Thank you, wise and helpful Anon.

>>60910898
Can you find a CSD of an ortho that doesn't have the ortho wall?

>>60912230
How do you like the Focal Spirit Pros? I thought about getting the Spirit Classics but I kept reading the opening for the ears are too small.

>>60917392
Good taste, I salute you.
HD600, schiit stack, umi fan.

>>60917332
Coming from Spirit Ones they're much better. The cups do touch the edges of my ears though. My ears are pretty normal size. It gets a bit warm over time, but not discomfortable. I did try spirit classics out too briefly before getting the pros. If I remember right, they were a little bit comfier thanks to the very long cord and not clamping as hard on the ears. Pretty similar size though.

>>60917392
>LL
throw it in le garbage

>>60917577
Only some full of hate trashy excuse of a human being could say this of Love Live.
Seek help, Anon.

>>60917625
imas > your entry tier trash

>>60917741
As someone who likes both, I'm sure your beloved im@s idols would not be happy to learn you're such a shitty producer that you hate the other idols so much.

>>60917776
LL designs are hideous and the character cast is tiny, has little diversity and is mostly shit.

When you have characters like Nico you should probably reconsider the franchises you participate in the fandom of.

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>>60917838
How can you hate on nico? Seriously what the hell's wrong with you, Anon.

>>60917838
>(love live) character cast is tiny,
-- A rabid imas idol f@ctory fan.

>>60917882
i'm not a masochist

>>60917914
>has a big cast
>just about every one is still more unique and interesting than an LL character
is sunrise even trying?

>>60917947
>has a big cast
>just about every one is still more unique and interesting than an LL character
>sunrise
Only responsible of the anime, which is a small part of the Love Live franchise. To be fair, the few idols from im@s that did appear in the cinderella anime did not get that much development done.

>>60918182
you say that like either anime series is actually good.

at least in idolmasters case it just serves as an advertisement.

would ath m40xs be a good choice to listen to this kind of music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qptMg0JWmFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k

>>60917882
>>60917914
>>60917947
>>60918182
>>60918253
Please fuck off to /a/

>>60918529
You probably mean /vg/, senpai.

>>60913989
I don't know if I'm the Anon you're thinking of, but I do own an NFB-11 with my HD650. There was also another Anon around the other day that has one with his LCD-3 and HD800. It costs more than a Schiit Uber stack would, and takes longer to ship to you than buying something from Schiit would, but with the quality components used it's basically the best you can get in the <$500 range if you need both an amp and DAC. As long as you don't mind it being chink-fi, but it's good, hand built chink-fi. I was reluctant to buy it at first, but I'm glad I did. I knew I'd be able to sell it off very easily if I didn't like it for whatever reason.

That's not to say you wouldn't be satisfied with a Schiit stack, though. I'm sure many people are.

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>>60916416
They're fantastic. The most detailed and airy closed back headphones I've ever tried. You would not regret your purchase.

>>60918601
Good riddance.

>>60918661
>detailed and airy
Nice. How's the bass? Read it's not much but what bass is there is high quality, which i highly prefer.
Also read that MSR7 are somewhat source dependant. I'll power them off of my chinkpad and RN3P (upgrade planned) and most of my music is MP3 V0. Can this be an issue?

Are the HD600 or 650 good for games and movies?

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>>60906614
Shit template.

Here, I've created a new improved one.

>>60919265
shit template, favorite album is a stupid slot

>>60919323
Only for the uncultured who don't have one.

>>60918769
As someone who listens primarily to Drum n Bass and Metal, you've got no worries bass-wise. You can always EQ a little bit if you really need it pounding, but I don't bother usually.

>60912008 is me so your mileage may vary.

Would a AKG M220 (((Pro))) Headphones be a good pick up for 50$ any pros or cons I should consider

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halp pls
i've been using pic related flawlessly for years now and since i started using google play music there is ONE PUNCTUAL STUTTER at the beginning of each song, then it plays smoothly

IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS, i have no idea what may be the cause, bitrate shouldn't be an issue since gpm only handles lossy audio

>>60919478
they look like k240s, what are the differences?

>>60919514
bump (send help)

>>60919514
That's a common problem with Google Play.

>>60919571
good thing i went for the trial first.
god damnit, the feature where you can upload your own music was pretty neat

>>60919537
I've never really had a pair of headphones would this be a good product to start with

What are the best around $100 IEM? I heard the shure se215 are good but have heavy bass.

>>60919949
>SE215
>Heavy Bass
That's correct. You might want to look at the Etymotic MK5/MC5

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>>60919265
Is there any over-the-ear headphones in below 40$ range that would be better than AKG K530? Would Superlux HD681EVO memes have better sound?

>>60919877
then go for the standard choice which would be the k240s, unless you read up on that other model and you like it more for whatever reason.
$50 should get you a new or gently used pair
also consider sony mdr v6

Are these a meme? I got some KZ ates for cheap and they were good. Are these good chink shit IEMS?
https://www.amazon.com/1MORE-Headphones-Earphones-Compatible-Microphone/dp/B01KB9K9Z0/ref=lp_9059092011_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1497573629&sr=1-1&th=1

>>60920005
>681EVO
Straight NiggaBass. 662 EVO's are better.

>>60920005
>imaginary cartoon girlfriend
>meme album (with alternate cover)
>external dac
shit taste and uncalled for information.

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God damn these are some fantastic sounding cheap headphones. Can Phillips actually do wrong? A little less bass and detail than my Vmoda XS, but for $25 compared to $200 it's great. Can't compare to my X2's of course.

If anyone is looking for some portable on-ear wireless headphones with active noise cancelling this is a steal on ebay, just thought I'd share this.

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Lost my Soundmagic e10 after more than 1 year of use, best earphones I've used in my life. Looking for suggestions else I'm probably just going to buy a new pair

>Budget
$45
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Sound signature
Honestly I can't tell
>Past headphones
Tascam TH-02
Soundmagic e10

>>60920424
Soundmagic E30
Tennmak Pro
KZ ZS5

>>60911485
I wish we could see those graphs on the right without the scaling. Would be cool if you could discern pricing patterns in specific ranges.

>>60918570
Yeah but I'm living outside the US and Schiit's shipping costs are insane, so they're pretty much the same price now, even with the TXCO upgrade for the NFB-11. So in this case would you say the NFB-11 is better value for money?

>>60917048
Pretty much no other planar has an "ortho wall" that fucking bad.
https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/hifiman/he400i/
https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-j-r/t50rp-mk3/
http://www.changstar.com/www.changstar.com/index.php/topic%2C52.0.html

>>60916673
Even if you EQ that peak to neutral, the extremely gradual slope of the decay will still most likely make the ringing audible. You'd have to EQ it to a dip, and that's undesirable.

>>60920591
>if you could discern pricing patterns in specific ranges
The paper's conclusion is that there isn't one observed.
The chart is there try to and identify common spectral features shared among the headphones and identify relation between the variables. The price and these eigenvectors are basically independent variables of the other.

>>60921241
>>60913564
>>60916564
>>60910898
Cause looks like membrane resonance.
The ringing is the dual of the sharp and narrow peak in the response at 5kHz. It is normal and no more important than what any low magnitude, high-Q peak would be: not very.

>>60921241
I have to believe that the ringing wouldn't be noticeable unless and only maybe unless you're actively listening for it. I still wouldn't buy the headphone because I'd strongly question the build quality of anything from Monoprice.

>>60921386
If there is an audible flaw that can't be EQ'd away, I'd say that is very important.
>>60921397
That may be true, but the fact of the matter is that it's still there.

>>60913717
Mind posting the posters and source? Especially the middle one.

>>60919587
Not him, but you might try disabling any EQ you may be using, either in GPM or system wide. I had a similar problem with Spotify and that solved it.

>>60921435
Given an appropriate signal, a sine sweep for instance, it would easy to detect. This goes back to the usual problem, that audio folks do not know the right questions to ask.
I have to ask: what makes you so sure that this is ringing is not implied by the magnitude spike?

>Budget
50-100 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Earphones
>Comfort level
Comfort and active noise cancelling are the only things I care about.
>Past headphones
Bose QC 20. Very comfortable and blocks out all noise from other rooms, but I want a less expensive pair that I wouldn't mind getting sweat onto.

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>>60921782
>Earphones
>Active Noise Cancelling
I don't think there's actual ANC Earphones. Look into Etymotic IEMS like the MK5/HF5/MC5 for crazy passive noise isolation.

Just got LCD-2. If anyone is wondering, planar bass isn't a meme

>>60922026
Similarly my 800S just arrived. They sound amazing.

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>>60921673
Again, look at the slope of the ringing. Other headphones with similar magnitude spikes don't have such gradual slopes. You can see with the MDR-Z1R's spike, the ringing decays far faster than in the M1060.

>>60922153
Just brought a pair of 800s off a guy on head-fi myself.
Which amps have you tried with yours so far?

>>60922174
I only have a non-uber Schiit stack. I plan on upgrading some time in the future.

>>60922187
>I plan on upgrading some time in the future.
There's absolutely zero reason to if you get enough volume without noise. Seriously, spend that money on anything but that.

>>60922394
Yeah I was planning on going into a store next time I was interstate.

whether or not I actually get anything else is up in the air

>>60922394
>>60922418
I recently upgraded from a Matrix M-Stage to a Violectric V200, The difference was pretty noticeable.

>>60922498
Describe the difference in objective terms, so no "euphonic" or "pellucid."

>>60922524
Fuller bass, both in terms of extension and punchiness, smoother treble, vocals are brought forward without compromising any background instruments.
Overall better soundstage and imaging.

>all this autism itt
Bet you cucks can't even tell the difference between mp3 and flac

>>60922571
i can, but only with special crystals placed on my audio gear

>>60922560
O and I should clarify, my m-stage was the 2012 version, with the opamp swapped to 2x OPA627BP in Class-A biased mod.

>>60922571
You're right, I can't

But I have an autistic fit when I see "mp3" in my music player

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Consulted a semi-old /g/ infographic and bought a pair of Superlux 668B cans.

No distortion or anything using three different soundcards and one onboard but the bass is absolute shit. Avoid like the plague. /g/'s audiophiles are nearly clueless.

>>60922571
Depends on the recording. Badly recorded music sounds bad in both flac and mp3.

>>60922594
>buys cheap shit
>mad when it performs like cheap shit
JUST

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>>60906293
Is FLAC 2.0 better than AAC 5.1worth it if the FLAC file in question is 3 times bigger than the AAC counterpart?

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>>60922594
Had a pair of these for a few months. The bass is pretty much non-existent, and I knew it.
But still loved it, especially for musicals and classical concertos.

Looking for a pair of vintage looking headphones.

>>60922687
>>60922594 is pretty old looking

>>60922686
I miss my AT's. They were only 60 bucks but they were damn nice.

>>60922713
Not bad. But I was hoping something with brown, perhaps wood grain, exposed metal either brass or polished silver look. Maybe boxy as well.

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>>60922745

>>60922751
Well it's definitely interesting. But I'm just looking for some headphones.

>>60922761
Look up Grado.

>>60922776
>Grado
>$1000-$2000
Yikes man. My budget is like $100-$300 tops unfortunately.

I'll ask here, does it feel like sound got digitally lowered on w10 1703? any idea how to fix it?
also bit streaming broken for mphc

got smsl m6, no difference between w10 usb class 2 driver and smsl driver

>>60922807
Read the OP first.
Also >>60922751 was $9000 for the headphones alone the last time I checked.

>>60922809
I haven't noticed anything odd, it's possible that some of your drivers somehow got corrupted while upating

Try runing sfc /scannow in CMD as Admin, it'll try to repair the system.

If It can't find anything I don't really know what else to say, make sure all "enhancments" are off in the System Sounds.

If you're still having issues, try booting from a USB onto a live CD, KDE Neon or something similar will do the trick.

>>60922809
Try it with ASIO, if it actually sounds better then it's prolly w10.

>>60922571
Sometimes I can.

>>60922571
I can with 600s on classical recordings, couldn't with 598s.

>>60922841
>>60922860
maybe i'm imagining it, mpchc sure doesn't work but that's probably just due to player itself

can't run asio now, I would need to install chink driver for it
wasapi sounds as wasapi should same sound level

can it be that my dac lost some Omh push?

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Im going to japan in a few weeks. Which one should i bring with me?

I think I am gonna go with the HD558. Should I get anything with them like a new cable, or is the included one fine?

>>60923194
I've heard nothing bad about the default cable.

>>60923271
cool, should be a big upgrade from my hd428's

>>60923186
If you like a large quantity of bass the MDR-1A, otherwise MSR7 win in every aspect.

>>60923292
Yeah. sounds good man

>>60919473
I listen to mostly rock/metal and EDM, guess that's fine then, thanks!

>>60919260
Yes. Neutral, good all-rounders, excellent at random. HD600 being best at that among the two, because more neutral.

>>60922171
The center magnitude of the resonance is not important. The key is looking for the spread of the peak, the inverse of the Q. The monoprice set has a much higher Q resonance around 4-5kHz.

>>60923822
The Q of the peak is not much higher at all.

Unsurprisingly the 800S suffers from the same problem as the larger AKG pads (K7XX), where in the "proper" position, they push into your cheek-bones.

I also have a rather large gap next to my eye, I can actually fit my pinkie between my face and the cups. Seems to be a nice middleground if I move them back slightly, but any further and the sound starts to become distorted

>>60924255
what the fuck is wrong with your head you fucking freak

>>60924262
I'm skinny and I have large cheek-bones :(

>>60924003
Different anon but yes it obviously is. It's at least twice the Q.

Can some of you explain to me the need of one of those amp things? I've got a pair of Sennheiser and I thought that was all I needed. But every once in a while I see one of those amp things.

>>60908235
What is a DAC and what is an amp, explain to me in headphone guy terms and what it changes from just having my headphones plugged in to my sound card

>>60924558
Twice the Q and 1/10 the slope. Really made me think there anon. Regardless, CSD plots of mods which attempt to fix the spike still show audible ringing. Oh well.

>>60924625
If your headphones are loud enough to your liking and there's no static, buzzing or any other artifcats, then no you don't need an amp.

>>60924674
When playing loud music, the bass or drums usually distort. How about that?

>>60924699
Sounds like a DAC problem.

>>60924756
what do to fix? I'm running my headphones through a USB converter if that might be the problem

>>60924756
The most likely culprit is probably the drivers themselves distorting, not the DAC.

>>60921513
Godmachine is the artist - I bought these from a private showing in 2014 here in London.

Pics I took of (most of) the pages of his book here: http://imgur.com/a/WLcUv#Ej2XObn

>>60924003
-It is. By a lot. Z1R spike is much more spectrally distributed.
-Window size limits frequency resolution, this makes Q assessment in the frequency domain more difficult.
-The mods didn't flatten the magnitude out.

>>60924699
Sounds like a headphone issue.
Try with other signals. For instance, a full scale sine around 500-1000 Hz.

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Is it worth "upgrading" from a Hyper X Cloud to a Superlux HD681 EVO?

>>60925408
I'd say no honestly, Cloud series is based off an actual headphone.

I would imagine that'd be a downgrade.

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>>60925464
Thanks alot anon

I bought the MH40x's on Amazon last week and they're in the preparing to ship stage. However, I saw that they're currently $79 now. Should I cancel my order and rebuy it?

>Budget
<$100
>Location
Europe
>Source
Sansa Clip Sport on the road, Onboard laptop audio at work
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Moderate - High (all day)
>Sound signature
Balanced
>Past headphones
Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro's at home, used to have crappy Philips IEM's but they broke so I need new ones.

>>60924644
for DACs see >>60912359
Amps are for certain headphones that need more power to get loud enough

>>60922187
Upgrading to what? The only reason to get the uber is the features (preamp outputs, spdif optical/coax inputs).
Power-wise what you've got should be more than enough.
I went with uber, because I needed the features.

>>60923194
Cables make no difference unless they're b0rked.
Think about getting a different cable only if/when you break the one that comes with the headphones.

>>60923532
>metal
Suffers massively with coloring. The more the neutral, the better.

>>60925501
nico ni~

>>60926406
Idk but noticed this with Sony MDR-1A's and their niggerbass destroying half my songs.

>>60926430
Strings, like female vocals, will sound better in general with headphones that have good midrange (like HD600).
Noise shape will change with EQ or coloring. Neutral is best (like HD600).

>>60926430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZTKCMRzHM

>>60926383
>what
I was planning on the Jotunheim
>Power-wise what you've got should be more than enough.
Correct, I'm at the point of pain at 50%
>I went with uber, because I needed the features.
Yeah pretty much, I have a SYS between my stack for my Speakers, I'm worried that the SYS is impacting sound though, as there is a extremely distinct difference between having it at 100% and 50%

Redpill™ me on k612.

>>60926533
>Jotunheim
So very balanced. Somewhat too new, heard about some QC issues. I wouldn't touch it yet, particularly since you have a fine setup already. It's also likely they'll have a multibit DAC option at some point, to go full meme.
Also, seriously, you have schiit stack already, just how much money did you spend on headphones? If you're not spending, by far, more money on headphones than amps/dacs, you're doing something horribly wrong.
>Correct, I'm at the point of pain at 50%
Gain != Power. Also, I hope you're on low gain. Else, you should probably flip that switch down now.
>SYS
Passive, so only negative gain. I'd leave it at MAX to prevent it from affecting the sound. I'm planning on getting one at some point, because I could really use an aux analog input.

>>60926814
Thanks for the input
>I hope you're on low gain
Yeah I am, fairly sure I'd be deaf if I was on high

As I stated here >>60922418 I plan on trying it first, if I can't I just won't get it. I live in Australia so stores are pretty rare to come by, but I'm heading interstate later this year so I'll try and fit it into my schedule then. It's a real shame, I sat down and worked it out; that if I was to go to the nearest audio store it would end up costing me over $800, and that's assuming that nothing went wrong (having to stay overnight)

>>60924699
Check to make sure you have absolutely zero equalizer settings anywhere enabled. This includes in your media player(s) as well as in Windows sound settings. Make sure you don't have a bass boost or anything like that checked in Windows sound settings. That distortion could be clipping from an EQ setting somewhere.

>>60926906
Windows has a convenient tickbox for "disable all effects", in the audio device settings.
It should be ticked all the time. All postprocessing is garbage.

Listening with my Logitech UE900 on my smartphone, there is a alot of hiss sounds / noise floor. Will a small dac/amp such as the Fiio K1 improve on that?

>>60927074
>Fiio K1
I can't give an opinion directly on it, but yes it should help

>>60924645
>mods
If it's a membrane resonance, no mod is going to fix it. Equalization would do better job.
>audible
If you flatten the spectral content first, that's still completely in the air. As long as there's a frequency magnitude peak, you can likely hear it with a proper test tone. We see 5ms in time, that's more than likely to be temporally masked. The data we have is too limited for any conclusive answers on it.

>>60921515 (You)
>>60921343 (You)
I ordered some spinfits, I have trouble getting a good seal no matter what cover I use for my kz ate iems, but I have a few tips I've tried that seem to fit better

The tips that fit better are more "flared" when I look at them, the ones that are rounded at the end don't get a good seal, or so I figure from looking at them

>>60927354
Yes, like I said before. You can't say for absolute certainty but it is very likely based on the data we do have. It is one thing to deny certainty, it is another to deny probability.

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>>60922594
>>60922655
>Dickridden by various audiophiles across multiple forums
>muh /g/
>muh cheap

Also the 668Bs are known for being pretty linear and having little bass, should've informed yourself before instead of being a retard.

>>60927074
I have the K1 though I haven't tried to see if my phone can power it. I had the same problem on my PC and all noise and static went away when using the K1 as my DAC.

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Has someone an Idea where I get the alpha pads from in Europe?
With tax and all it will be ~90€ to import them, thats not what I'm willing to really pay.

Or there any other alternatives, best in Germany for my HiFiMan He-500?

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Beats Studio 2.0 Wireless are the best over ear headphones on the market.

Prove me wrong.

>>60927968
They are not.

You have been proven wrong.

>>60906293
Anyone know the original maker of the HyperX headphones? I remember seeing a version not by hyperx brand without the mics.

>>60928057

Omnitronic

>>60922686
These cans look so classy.

>>60928057
Takstar Hi80, ISK something, Qpad.

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>>60922745
Meze Classics 99

Would highly appreciate any help

>Budget
€100-€300
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
open, over ear headphone
>Comfort level
Will use at least 3 hours at a time
>Sound signature
Balanced
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD449

>Budget
£160
>Location
UK
>Source
PC motherboard
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, I don't live alone
>Comfort level
Sound quality over comfort
>Sound signature
Neutral

>>60928606
HD 600

>>60928057
Takstar Pro80
>>60928627
HM5

>>60928606
>>60928689
That's the correct advice, for once.

>>60928627
>Closed, I don't live alone
But... same room?
And within same room... less than a couple meters away?
And if so, you like it really loud?
Only if you answered yes to all above, you're restricted to closed.

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>>60906614
this template sucks

My £20 sennheiser headphones are about to break so I want to get some new ones now.
I don't know that much about them so I thought you guys could help me out.
I've got a budget of about £150 and they will only be used indoors for my computer.

Also I've been having a problem where when I put anything in the USB drive at the front of my computer I start to hear a lot of crackly noise and I don't know what to do about it

>>60906614
>mpd+ncmpcpp
>n/a
>Objective 2 (O2) Headphone Amplifier
>Sennheiser HD 280 Pros
I hate image editing software

MH50X vs MH40X. Is there that big of a difference between the two?

>>60929871
>£150
HD579, k702, HD598/SE/SR (not Cs), HD558.

>>60929871
>Also I've been having a problem where when I put anything in the USB drive at the front of my computer I start to hear a lot of crackly noise and I don't know what to do about it
Schiit Fulla 2, FX-Audio DAC-X6.
But... best to live with it, you can buy this sorta shit later. Your budget limits you to getting just headphones now.

>>60930017
Saw the HD598 on amazon. But what's the difference between SR and Cs if you don't mind me asking?

>>60930125
HD598/SE/SR are the same headphones, essentially. Differences are cosmetics+extracable (SE) and mic (SR).
HD598C is a completely different headphone, closed, with no relation whatsoever to HD598 other than the naming.
HD598 has built some popularity over the years, Cs are just leeching on it.

>>60930125
All the headphones I listed are available in amazon.co.uk and meet your budget.

Don't know if this is a dumb question or not but say I listen to dad rock music a lot say like Rush and Yes for example, what would the best headphones for me be?
Assuming money isn't a factor

>>60925634
Call Amazon and see if they can just refund the difference.

>>60930557
Genre or type of music doesn't dictate headphone or sound signature preference. This is especially true when you don't have a limiting factor to what you can buy. If you had, it could make sense to prioritize on the spectrum your music focuses on but even here it's impossible to generalize. Genres, artists, albums and individual tracks vary too much. If you don't know your preference to sound signature, go with something generally preferred like neutral with low bass boost. No headphone really matches that idea but I think MrSpeakers Ether might be a solid choice.

>Budget
£200 though I can probably go higher
>Location
UK
>Source
Home PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
comfort is a bonus
>Sound signature
Don't really know

I also don't have a DAC or amp so I might need to get one of those too.

anyone know how k712 hold up against hd600?

>>60927789
http://www.nvx.com/xre100a-comfortmax-angled-cushions/

Better than HM5 pads and still cheap

I bought a used pair of earbuds on amazon. I got the package today. The guy didn't even bother to clean his ear wax off of it. The entire package smells like smoke.

>>60931640
They both have different sound signatures. You have to listen to them both and decide yourself. There's no ''x is better'' in audio. Even price is irrelevant.

>>60931640
HD600 is neutral. K712 is bassier.

>>60929871
Get HD558. They're a tremendous value right now at their current price, which won't last long as they're discontinued. They sound almost exactly the same as the open HD598s.

>>60931640
It doesn't. k712 is a relatively well known colored headphone that's often considered worse than k702, while hd600 is the most neutral overear that doesn't have some major flaw and perhaps the most reputable headphone out there.

>>60931229
>£200 though I can probably go higher
Stretch out for HD600, and that's all you're going to need.

>>60922026
I like their FR and I won't mind rolled off highs as long as they extend, but that treble roll off looks like too much. How are female vocals on LCD 2? I feel that they will sound worse than on HD600.

>>60931930
fuck off

>>60931955
>If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>>60926923
>All postprocessing is garbage.
Every headphone ever made can benefit from properly applied equalization. Of course, that doesn't mean checking a bass boost box in Windows settings. That means using measurements and sine sweeps to develop precise parametric equalization and knowing how to use a preamp to prevent clipping.
>but muh signal purity
"No."

Is the Fulla 2 still worth buying at $150 (I'm in the UK) or are there better choices? Looking for an amp/DAC for around £100 to pair with my 250 ohm DT 880s

>>60932140
The Fulla 2 is pretty good and cheap for something actually made in america. If you don't give a fuck about that (most people don't), there's some competitive chinese options. Look into the FX-AUDIO DAC-X6.

>>60932140
A FiiO E10K is just as good, and it was the previous babby's first amp/dac until Schiit became a meme.

>>60931229
HD598, but as suggested already if you can stretch for HD600 it will be worth it, currently £283.99 on Amazon. Those 2 have somewhat similar frequency response, but as owner of both HD598 and HD600, the later just sounds better in everything, HD598 is a good headphone, also extremely comfortable, but HD600 is THE headphone. If you don't know what sound signature you like then post music that you listen to, HD600 struggles with electronic music mostly. Also what will you be listening from, PC, notebook?

>>60932189
>A FiiO E10K is just as good
Not comparable. Neither specs nor functionality offered.
Nice "bass boost" switch though. For that niggerbass.

>>60932166
Thanks. Is SMSL any good?

>>60932189
>Schiit became a meme
Good meme or bad meme?

>>60932215
>Thanks. Is SMSL any good?
Don't know, can't say
>good/bad meme
Schiit's low end (fulla2, magni2, modi2) is very competitive. Anything above that is audiophoolery territory. It might actually be better, but there's no way it will actually sound better at that point. Yet, they're still very competitive in that world. Their $500 crap is pointlessly better than most $10k garbage out there.

>>60931229
K612 and a Fulla 2 or something similar. Otherwise a 598 if you don't want a DAC/amp
HD600 if your limit isnt that stiff. Will need a decent amp, though your on-board may be alright. On-board audio is so wildly unpredictable that I can't really give any guarantee.

>>60932204
Listening from home PC
Mostly listen to dad rock kind of music like Rush and Yes but I listen to other things too like metallica and I also like retrowave like lazerhawk for example.

I've been looking at stuff like the Sennheiser's that you listed but also the AKG 702/712 and Beyerdynamic DT stuff

I'd probably need a DAC/amp too.

>>60932215
>Is SMSL any good?
Unless youre comfortable with dealing in Chi-Fi mixed back territory and DOA units, I'd stay away. But from amazon if you have to. They don't have a particularly good track record with anything and their lifespans seem pretty low.

>>60922594
what more did you expect for that price?

>>60932261
>>60932396
I'm going to buy the Fulla 2, this is likely going to be my last amp/DAC as I don't see myself going beyond mid-fi.

What would be good headphones for someone who can only hear out of their left ear, I can't hear at all from my right ear.

I am deaf but only suffer from amplitude lose not any frequency loss.

I am guessing there isn't anything particularly good for me.

I used to have the below headphones and they just broke at on of the sides completely.

https://www.amazon.com/JVC-HARX700-Precision-Sound-Headphones/dp/B0013OWPV4

They apparently don't sell them anymore retail so what's the best newer headphone to get for this price point? I bought these fuckers for like $24.99

If moving into an entire new tier is the only option that's okay, but I'd like a cheap budget headphone if possible.

>>60934510
Koss KSC75 or Koss PortaPro. They have the same drivers. If you want to prioritize sound over design the KSC75 are more accurate because they don't clamp as hard as the bassy PortaPros.

Have exactly $183 for headphones this month, can I get anything good for this ? Already own hd600s

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Holy shit they sound so fucking similar.

XB1000's reach a little deeper into bass but don't have the more airy sounding treble that my X2's have, and it is sharper around 8k. (Which I eq'd down)

Love em both, though I can wear the X2's all day since they have breathable pads

Correct me if I'm wrong, but planers aren't the best for bassheads right? I've never heard one and am really curious about their sound, butdon't want to spend more than $500 on any headphones really.

>>60934417
Any headphone can be paired with an eq that can push all the audio into one ear, so it's really up to how much you want to pay.

>>60934650
Buy a lot of cheap shit. KSC75, KZ ZS5, that sort of thing.

>0-350$, 400 if really worth it
>US, East Coast
>PC (FPS Gaming)
>Wired 7.1 Surround (Is Virtual Better/ Same?)
>Either, Not an Audiophile, Just a sound-whore
>No Headaches, but doesnt have to jerk me off either
>Any
>Steel Series Sibera V3, Razer Krakens, Turtle Beach X12, Astro A40s

>>60934827
Fidelio X2's, since you probably want a little excitement like bass instead of a super flat signature. If you don't want bass, get the Sennheiser HD 600 oe ATH 900x.
7.1 surround is a meme, a good open back headphone can match the soundscape and just sounds better across the board.

What is the best HM5 headband replacement I can get ? The replacement brainwavz sent me got lost in traffic and they don't wanna ship out another one, so I want somehting that won't break again, pref <$80.

>>60934827
Look into reviews of HD600, k712, Fidelio X2. Decide what's best for you.
I went with HD600, because they're the most neutral, which means they try to reproduce the recordings correctly and not try to add color the sound.

>>60934827
>Wired 7.1 Surround (Is Virtual Better/ Same?)
Just buy good headphones and use a software solution for surround like Razer Surround, which is free. The catch to Razer Surround is it installs Synapse which is basically spyware; just block Synapse in your firewall and problem is solved.

>>60932384
I think HD600 will do good. I listen a bit to old stuff like Tom Jones Lust for life, lazerhawk as well. They really bring vocals and guitar in the music up close for your enjoyment. Here is the review of HD6xx line by a guy who listens a lot to metal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV2wUtFcCv8. Altho the best way to judge is to go to store and try them out yourself or to use amazon return policy. I was thinking between them and DT800 for one and a half hour in store swapping them, HD600 won for me in the end. DT880 sounded nice, and very 'clean' due to prominent highs, but for reasons unknown to me at that time they missed some parts of music that HD600 did not, DT800 has treble roll off before peaking at 10k. You may need an amp for them, they will probably go loud enough with your audio card, they did on my mac book, but with amp they will sound cleaner, eps in bass. If you also ask for an amp in store and compare them with it and without, altho it may be hard to notice in a noisy store. Don't really bother with dac unless it's included in amp or you get hiss from your PC or any distortion. Overall HD600 are good and I can recommend them to you for any genre except electronic music but you don't listen to it, imo their only weakness.

>>60934650
>>60934709
Why? There is no reason unless you get IEM for portability. You won't get anything better in that price range unless you go for closed headphones, around 400$, or straight to HD800 and EQ them to your liking.

>>60935000
I should mention you need to login to Synapse once for it to work and only then do you block Synapse in your firewall. Razer Surround will continue to work with Synapse blocked.
I've used Razer Surround in games and with 7.1 encoded anime in the past and it works pretty well.

>>60935011
>electronica
I listen to demoscene music (does that count? MODs and such) all the time, and I love how the HD600 does it.
I suspect you mean it doesn't niggerbass, but EQ will give you as much as you want. I just don't like that, so I use it flat.

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>>60935034
Not asking for better than 600s, just decent headphones with different signatures.

>>60935122
Just use a fucking equalizer for different signatures.
>my #1 solution is always throw money at it
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>60935063
By bass I mean sub bass, on this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Die49qzCehA I never get enough of it, esp in the begining. I listen on moderate volumes and never feel the need to crank it up, but this one is the case and it's just not right. Mind you I have no problems with HD600 listening to 80% of my music, but sometimes these things pop up and I don't get full enjoyment out of them. I tried EQ, boosting from 20k to 80k but when I was reaching satisfactory levels in the term of the amount shit started to sound distorted and one note. HD800 did much better and didn't care about EQ, since they needed less in sub bass, but they are expensive as fugg and I would rather get a pair of bookshelves, which I will once I move to a new flat. Here are other tracks that I had to crank up the volume and felt lacking with.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1uVoPUt8TI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVU27pIZUrQ

>>60935362
Oh, I'm familiar with it (necrodancer) and like it.
I listen to it at a very low volume though. I'd rather not go deaf.
>when I was reaching satisfactory levels in the term of the amount shit started to sound distorted and one note.
Did you lower the volume of everything else, to avoid clipping?

>>60926583
its a slightly more tame version of 701

>>60935394
>Did you lower the volume of everything else, to avoid clipping?
Yes ofc, thats a no brainer. I also had the Element for my amp/dac so I had no problem volume wise. It's just bass was loose and one noted, I don't have a better description for this, eps in comparison to excellent mids and highs.