Indian tech firm makes it official: Trump is a risk to its business

POO

>>60860922
>americans get fired to be replaced by poo in the loo's
>trump comes in and says no, stop firing americans for poo in the loo's. hire americans
>poo in the loo's get pissed and start to play the victim card by joining in on the anti trump bandwagon.
lmao the irony.

I don't support much from Trump but the presented ideas of import tax on foreign goods and less foreign people working for horrid wages for the US is a good thing.
I don't care about the effects on the US but its long overdue changes.

I don't think his presidency will be a positive effect on the world overall though. Unless this finally gets the political system in the US as the top question.

>instead of bringing one pajeet to the U.S they'll just hire 10 pajeets in India and just send the code over
Brilliant work Drumpf!

>>60860922
Maybe this means I'll finally be able to get a job.

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>>60860922

I'm afraid the rest of the world will move on with out the US, bros, thanks the old senile, and young uneducated Trump voter base.

What did we, millenials, do to deserve this.

>>60861040
>being this obvious

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>>60860973

>>trump comes in and says no, stop firing americans for poo in the loo's. hire americans

Isn't this aint-capitalist. Isn't this what the Ayn Rand crowd frowns upon. Or was it all just a gambit to get elected and then give voter the middle finger.

With that said. This is probably some spin by Wipro to excuse their last/next quarters lack of profit/growth.

>>60861094
>being this ideological

>>60861094
You can be Capitalist without being a laissez-faire Capitalist. Only Jews push the socialist or Randbot dichotomy meme.

>>60860922
and that article like saying the sky is blue?

Currytech btfo

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>>60861094
>Comparing a nationalist, big military, strong borders, wave-America's-dick-and-subsidize-coal candidate to Ayn Rand

Where the hell did you get that idea?

>>60861247
It's not as obvious if you aren't an insider.

>>60861155
That's like saying Capitalism without capital.
The only way people can benefit from capitalism is when you have a free market for EVERYTHING including workers

>>60861503
This is a classic Pajeet argument tactic. Don't fall for it.

>Oh no he's gunna stop letting people outsource to us!
>Just like he said!
Fucking good, you faggot indians don't deserve american business.

>>60861503
>including workers
Which we don't, and never will have, so national protection in the interest of workers is a logical move to make.

>>60861658
This will only produce more compiting markets, it's not as wise to get protectionists now, because many capitals may flee in the search for greener pasture.

If you wanna know, that's what Venezuela did.

>>60861094
Trump's platform is, and always was, nationalist not a cuckertarian.

>>60861703
I bet everybody says you have the best english in the village, huh rajeesh?
Learn to talk before trying to use big ideas and words.

>>60861503
Government regulations still exist. The free market is as much of an utopia as marxist communism.

ITT: White bois proud that daddy Trump is cutting H1Bs, not realizing that the industry will just ship jobs overseas, like they did with manufacturing.

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India trying to ride on the coat tails of America. Super power by 2020, huh? :^)

>>60860922
>Wipro
Fuck those cunts

>>60862007
Regulations like: You can't sell poisoned food, and dumb shit like that. But protectionist regulations always creates monopolies and/or harm the economy in the long run.

The reasoning is something like this, in this case: Companies can't hire skilled workers cheaply, which hurts their profits and their shareholders profits, company solve this problem by shipping jobs overseas, which causes more unemployment.
On the other hand, by importing cheap labour those immigrants will have needs that the market must satisfy it. Indirectly creating jobs in the process.

>>60861094
yeah and so is having anti monoply laws. such as the sherman antitrust act that passed in 1890. in true capitalist society the biggest fish would of course dominate and ensure no other's can threaten them. but we have laws against this because we realize that compeition is good, and being a dick isn't.

so is shitting all over your own nations citizens, your employees that help make your company, your company, and supporting borderline slave labor.

just like there can never be true freedom, there can never be true capitalism.

>>60862138
Sure. Just import droves of cheap third-world workers! I'm sure all the jobless natives won't suffer for it!

>>60862476
>Indirectly creating jobs in the process.

>>60862499
Those indirect jobs will surely replace all the lost ones! The job market isn't already shit.

>>60862548
In the long run yes.
In short term no.

>>60862602
Of course, the people can wait 5 years without employment. How silly of me!

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>>60861040
>What did we, millenials, do to deserve this.
underaged? anyways, millenial here. Trump is easily one of the best things to happen, the sad thing is /pol/ can only deflect with the old lady clinton. Trump is not a good person or president for that matter but the decision had to be made and I believe Trump was the right one.

>>60862622
Of course, the people can wait 15 years for an economic recession to end. How silly of me!

The thing is 2-3.5 years of retraining is better than living decades in a worse of economic reality.

Based, poo's BTFO.

>>60862686
>the economic recession is because we didn't import cheap semi-slave labor and not because the financial sector follows an unsustainable model

>>60860922
>outsourcing firms
>Trump as a danger to its business
GOOD!!!!!!!!

>>60860922
Great, now whenever I call "Tech support" I can get an actual tech and not someone that reads off a script.

>>60863031

>You still get a script reader, they just go by Tryrone instead of Pajeet.

>>60862955
muh (((Wall Street)))

It was not my intention to conclude that a recession was caused by the lack of immigrant workers, for that I am sorry.

The recession on my post was caused by the inability to adapt to new economic realities and to new infrastructural and educational problems.
A free economy works both ways, if the participants are willing, the poorer country gets development and the rich country gets more wealth. Now what a free economy can't solve is how to distribute the generated wealth, only compromises between the owners of capital and the rest of society can solve.

>>60860922
So why should we give a fuck about Indian business?
Go Trump, MAGA

>>60860922
Who gives a shit?

>>60861040
the world already moved on past you, you NEET mongrel.

>>60861094
Last time I checked his slogan was Make America Great Again

Not Make Capitalism More Money
Not Make Indians Americans Instead

>>60861703
that's been claimed frequently but never turns out to be true. Tell you what, you worry about India, we'll worry about the USA, and in eight years we'll come back and see who's doing better

>>>/pol/
>>>/news/

According to my economics textbook, outsourcing is good in the long run because according to the theory of comparative advantage, specialization results in higher welfare for everyone.

What Trump is doing is harmful.

>>60860922
Good

>>60860973
It's like the are too stupid to realize they are legitimizing his claim that NAFTA was shafting the US all this time.

>>60862009
Let's say that's the case, that they just ship the jobs overseas. Does it matter? If you can't get the job to begin with because you're not a poojeet, does it matter if that job is now in India instead of downtown? It at the very least makes things harder for the company.

>>60861013

And then they'll have to confront why they are outsourcing work over seas rather than hiding their insourcing with H1-Bs

>>60863472
>not knowing about the theory of comparative advantage

The only 2 places where people care about India are /g/ and India.

>>60863433
What does your textbook say about high unemployment rates?

>>60863632
High structural unemployment is temporary because people will switch jobs or retrain. It turns out most people would rather stay in the workforce than to give up because pajeet took their job.

>>60863433
>for everyone
Does it really? Does that textbook really say where that money ends up in the economy? Does it trickle down to the worker who would otherwise have had a job, or does it stay at the top where a greedy rich guy hoards it or does it get spread out to a bunch of already well-to-do shareholders who had the money to invest, because fuck the little people?

>>60860922
>outsourcing firms

Fuck them.

>>60861094
It's protectionism which is a fine tradition in the USA.

>>60863717
Comparative advantage benefits everyone. Everyone gets cheaper goods and services from each country specializing. Try looking up comparative advantage for a better explanation.

>>60861013
They would've done that already if they could've. That fact that they haven't indicates that they require a physical presence in the US.

>>60863798

Not since the 80s.

>>60860922
The only good thing that will come of Trump's presidency.

>>60863856
>everyone

Ha. Cheaper goods that people still can't afford because there are no jobs.

>>60861040
We more or less founded the alt-right.

>>60863899
Are you forgetting Wall?

>>60863919
>massive waste of money that will be full of cut corners which mexicans will find a way over / around / under anyway

>>60863107
Oh come on. Blacks can't read.

>>60863933
>that will be full of cut corners which
Got and proof of that?
>which mexicans will find a way over / around / under anyway
Unlikely. Wall isn't just a wall, it has surveillance, if you can see the CIA funded bastards miles before they get to the wall, you can be ready for them.

Wall isn't about stopping average Mexicans from trying to escape their shitty country, their country is shitty due to the Gangs which are propped up by the CIA directly.
Preventing Gun and Drug trades across that border with the Wall, has a knock on effect of starving the gangs of their income and allowing Mexico to finally start a healing process of their own.

>>60863982
Trump is a Republican.

They cut corners on any and all direct government work (roads, bridges) and give contractors / corporations unlimited money with zero oversight (F35).

>>60864010
>source: me

>>60863108

Recession was caused by dumb amerifats taking out credit that they could never pay back in their lifetime

Burgers fault is their inability to take responsibility for their actions or think 2 seconds into the future.

Muh freedumb does not free you from your own idiocy

>>60864102
>source: bush administration, current congress

>Indian and memes
>Trump and politics
>Mexico and economics

Sure is /g/ - Technology!

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>>60863856
No, comparative advantage just means total goods & services produced will increase; it says nothing about distribution of said wealth, and a net gain in wealth can easily occur with a small number of people making a lot more and a large number of people making a lot less. If restricted trade cause the CEO of a major corporation to make a million dollars less, but 90 developers $10k more a year, what do think those developers will push for.

>>60861094
His stance was never '100% open market on everything'. It was 'make America great again', which is what this will do. It will bring jobs back to the American people, rather than ol' Pajeet sending 80% of his check back to his family in Bangalangadingdong so that they can buy another toilet to worship and not poo in.

>>60863533
>comparative advantage
No money to buy cheaper products, got it.

>>60863472
Cheaper goods help more than they hurt, repubs are just too stupid to realize this

>>60864684
If you use taxes to pay the displaced workers so they can get a new career then they'll have access to cheaper goods/services and probably a better career path.

>>60864724

Meanwhile we are slashing corporate taxes, kicking people off health insurance plans, and telling them that digging for rocks is not a dead end career path.

>>60861013
This is a great thing. America needs to help America, not everyone else.

MAGA

>>60864766

Oh! And all those trade deals that ear mark money for retraining displaced workers? Are vehemently fought against by a certain political party.

Now why should we keep outsourcing/insourcing again?

Protectionism isn't a lasting strategy, any country that tries to stay out of the global market just puts themselves at a disadvantage, other countries fill the void and they lose out on wealth and opportunities. You either go with the flow or get pulled under

>>60864705
>Buy shitty product from China
>Money goes to China to make
>Product breaks quickly
>Replacement bought, also from China
>China doesn't buy anything from US
>US only has services that China doesn't need
When does the US's money return?

>>60861703
>that's what Venezuela did
Uhh, no.

>>60864705
You're not looking at a big enough picture.

>>60864793
America has been on the losing end of nearly every deal we make with the exception of spreading our butt cheeks for Saudi royals for cheap oil and record profits. Our military is the backbone of every military force treaty we are joined with. So we spend trillions on military power just to preserve some fuck nut nation that can't stand on it's own. While our health care system is in shambles. We have record levels of poverty and dwindling jobs and a weakening education system. Our economy is losing it's edge to a Chinese rigged banking system.

When should we start protecting our interests, Arjun? When we are bled dry? Because it's already at that point. It's just vultures picking over our carcass now.

>all these mad poos

I will just leave this here
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-for-software-development-jobs-study/article9652211.ece

>>60864705
>cheap garbage you have to replace every month
yes, so much better.

>>60864151
This. It's always interesting to see the inconsistencies in the left: on the one hand they argue vehemently for globalism, which displaces workers and concentrates money at the top, and then they complain that CEO wages have inflated dramatically over the same period of time that big, globalist trade deals have been made. It's like they don't realize that the two are related.

>>60864724
>probably a better career path
A noble idea, but government intervention into post-secondary education has lead to an explosion of college degrees, which should have produced a richer economy but... instead we got an explosion of psychology and liberal arts degrees from greedy schools that dumb down certain degrees to keep the gravy train running. It's almost like not everybody is cut out to be a skilled/knowledge worker and so you're, at best, shuffling those semi-skilled labor into other semi-skilled labor jobs after retraining time or, at worst, pushing them into unskilled labor jobs with thousands of dollars of college debt.

>>60864876
No, America has been on the winning end of every deal it makes.
It doesn't make any other deal.
Oh, don't feel richer for it? That's because you aren't America. America is the few hundred thousand people who actually have all the capital.
The other 350 million aren't america, they're just serfs to pacify.

>>60864876
>America has been on the losing end of nearly every deal we make with the exception of spreading our butt cheeks for Saudi royals for cheap oil and record profits.
American oil companies drove oil prices down.


>So we spend trillions on military power just to preserve some fuck nut nation that can't stand on it's own.
I guess you're referring to Israel? Israel and America work together on defense technologies. They're also a reliable ally for America to use to project its influence in the region which we do not have many of. Our NATO allies have been working to increase their military funding for years now, it's difficult to reallocate a huge amount of money on short notice which is why there's a deadline set for 2024, which was agreed upon by the Dubya Bush administration in 2006. It's a long term goal, but it actually not a strict requirement.


>While our health care system is in shambles. We have record levels of poverty and dwindling jobs and a weakening education system.
Healthcare is not great but it's a lot better than it was <2007. The only currently proposed "solution" makes it even worse. We need public funding of healthcare and post-secondary education and to forgive student loan debt.

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>>60861094
No

>>60864948
>his. It's always interesting to see the inconsistencies in the left: on the one hand they argue vehemently for globalism, which displaces workers and concentrates money at the top, and then they complain that CEO wages have inflated dramatically over the same period of time that big, globalist trade deals have been made. It's like they don't realize that the two are related.

The left usually advocates for taxing the highest income earners and using it for public education, public healthcare, infrastructure, and welfare programs to try and balance out the effects. Its a smarter solution than just giving up and resisting and hindering the economy

>>60865496
>hindering the economy
or hindering economic growth rather

Its sad that loads of cumskins replying here dont understand the situation.
Read the news idiots
Read the fucking news not some biased opinion filled articles and posts.
U guys keep saying poo in the loo to us
But u do realise that you are literally shitting on yourselves behaving this way..
Educate yourselves idiots....

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>Working in IT company in Europe
>We get a project in kuwait
>we get to do the system integrations while a indian company gets to manage the data bases
>we are always interacting with indian people (they also work in the company in kuwait)
>they are constantly fucking up
Indians are terrible programmers

>>60865693
Explain how letting companies abuse a system that was set up to attract the best other countries have to offer in a way that floods the market with cheap but shitty foreign labor is beneficial for us, the young Americans who are getting shafted when it comes to employment opportunities.

>>60860922
I've heard the excuse to why there are so few well known companies coming out of India is because all the red tape. Why don't existing companies fight all the run arounds or if the government gets worried try and fix it themselves?

>>60865744
Idk bout that
But all I am saying that stop hiring indians
Send us back all the indians working in your cuntry
This not just applies to tevh industry I'm talking in all categories
Just kick out my fellow indians from ur country!
My friends who have been to your country have gotten shitload of racist comments and have been insulted
I don't want that..

>>60865894
>But all I am saying that stop hiring indians
>Send us back all the indians working in your cuntry
>This not just applies to tevh industry I'm talking in all categories
>Just kick out my fellow indians from ur country!

Yeah, we're trying to do that. This thread is about just that.

>>60865894
>have gotten shitload of racist comments and have been insulted

That's because of what these companies have been doing with them.
There are H1B Indian groups here who have been pushing for reform to the system and backing Trump because of how badly they are treated by these companies.
They want the pay raised for their own benefit and to make the system less attractive for abuse.
They are basically slaves once they get here because if they don't do exactly what the company wants they have their visas revoked and get sent back.

>>60861040
>What did we, millennials*, do to deserve this.
Threw bitch fits, cried about everything, tried to stop advancement,pissed everyone off, nearly burned the whole place down.
Gee I wonder.

>>60860955
IN

If it could be outsourced it already would have been.

Beyond ending h1bs he also needs to dramatically reduce the number of foreign students allowed into US universities.

If a company resists, shut them down.

>>60866041
LOO

>>60862674
>>60862674
>>>60861040
>>What did we, millenials, do to deserve this.
>underaged?
Apparently, millenials refers to people from the 80s until 2k. I was surprised too when I looked it up.

>>60860922
>danger to its business
I hate this argument. There is no inherent reason that your business must be alive. There are sustainable and unsustainable business models and the landscape changes constantly by regulations and markets. If you can't adapt you can fuck off.

>>60866105
>reduce the number of foreign students allowed into US universities.
no, that's fucking stupid
they pay a fuckton of money to study here, they essentially subsidize domestic students

Any software engineers know of a Pajeet that actually knew what he was doing and didn't always say yes to every deadline despite clearly being unable to reach it?

>>60866257
Chinks cheat all the time and the administration usually turn a blind eye entirely due to the high tuition they're paying.

>>60866285
Is that assertion supposed to change something?

>>60860955
>>60866041
>>60866113
Bahahahhahahahahahahah lmao!

>>60866368
Kek. Butthurt poo is crying

>>60866446
>Kek
Kys newfag
Gtfo

>>60866470
>kys
Just fucking die already you underage cunt

>>60866446
Hi leddit

>>60866495
Hi 9fag

>>60866446
Bitch this site is for 18+ gtfo

>>60864808
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War

>>60867789
>US
>Opium war

This is why I'm convinced pollniggers either can't read... Or are willfully ignorant.

>>60867832
The point wasn't that the US took part in the conflict, the point is that this isn't the first time a superpower has had a massive trade deficit with China. I'm not saying it's going to play out anything like it did, but it's worth reading about and understanding.

>>60864876
The US government keeps strong-arming other nation's companies on behalf of its companies and what not, and it lead and probably still will lead to many very exploitative situations. You're sure as fuck not the victims here.

> Inb4 more capitalism should fix my poverty & plz stop world from taking such advantage of us, we're actually the best and just getting dragged down

>>60864983
This.

MMRUNOLD BRRIMMPHHH

>>60867850
The opium wars are literally irrelevant in the context of sino-american trade in the 21st century.

You posted it because you're an edgemeister.

The funny thing here is that you think you actually think you're a little bit intelligent.

You aren't. You're an actual idiot, and your posf smells like r.eddit.


Fuck off.

>>60868011
Why are you straight up so mad about someone posting about a historical conflict with China over trade? I never said it had anything to do with the US, read for fucks sake. And how does this make me an edgemeister, I have no fucking clue what sort of reputation posting about it has but I've got nothing to do with it. I thought maybe someone would find it educational, but no you'd rather get mad over some made up crime. Take your anger elsewhere.

>>60868049
>why are you mad
>take your answer elsewhere

Tfw 4chan is kill.

>>60860955
>>60866041
>>60866113
>>60866446
THIS IS NOT FUNNY.

>>60868530
The greatest example of dedication to a shit meme which applies only to less than 2 million indians who dont have acess to internet and cant understand english.

>>60860922
I think id be more worried about E. coli if i was in his shoes.

>>60868568
>less than two
Get out you poo

>>60868568
What seems to be the problem, sir?

>>60868568
>dedication
Finding trips is trivial.

>>60860922
Ha ha ha. Suck it, Indians. Ha ha ha.

Trump rules. :)

>>60868568
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_India

>>60860973
Is he actually doing that though?

wipro and tcs and others staff some of the shittiest resources on the planet.

let me tell you a story.

>t. enterprise software consultant. i know the system i work on very well. customers pay $3,000 USD for my expertise and I go visit them onsite
>this is in addition to licensing certain software as part of the initiative I was doing
>all in all, we can say that it'll cost upwards of a quarter million dollars
>working at a big utility in the midwest US onsite
>after I set shit up, they don't want it to fall into disarray (regular maintenance/checks/config) so they want to hire someone. I agree totally with this, suggest they hire a bright college grad, I teach them
>nope let's go to the outsourcer
>...okay. We can review the resumes of any applicants and advise you on whether or not we recommend to interview

>get only one resume
>the applicant claims to have more experience with the major product release than the product existed in any form (alpha, beta, etc.) and the bullet points read like he took them from a white paper
>recommend he not be interviewed, wait for another candidate or put out a direct hire ad, or retrain somebody internally
>they interview him anyway.

>phone interview, because the guy is in India
>we are silently on the line as the company interviews him. We have prepared questions to gauge his technical knowledge
>answers the first one okay. it sounds kind of rehearsed but whatever
>guy has a super deep voice
>ask the next question down the list.
>same answer, except for this question it makes no sense
>repeat four or five times
>company hangs up
>we (the company that makes the software) render the opinion that the resource is not qualified and that we would not hire him
>they hire him anyways

>told they have brought him to the US
>go to meet him
>guy with super high pitched voice
>ask him one of the most basic questions about the application
>totally baffled
more in another post

>>60869008 (continued)

>find out they're paying the outsourcer thirty five dollars an hour for this guy that knows nothing
>not only am I now teaching him the basics of my application, but basic OS/system level stuff too.
>my time costs $3,000 a day. they are basically spending $375 an hour for me to ramp up this guy
>leave after a few weeks when my part is done
>everything goes to shit when they can't maintain it
>since the part they needed to maintain was a system that monitored other systems that ran their business, this resulted in the CIO getting shitcanned
>all because they pinned all their hopes on one guy the outsourcer promised was an expert and didn't know his ass from his elbow

Anyhow, H1-B having a $60,000 minimum salary to waive most requirements to prove you actually tried to hire an American is fucking ridiculous, raise that to at least $100K and the problem will solve itself. Companies that still can't find the required talent in the US will still have H1-B available but you won't have indentured servants replacing Americans for half the price. (H1-B is non-immigrant visa that's tied to the employer, so if the employer fires you then you have to leave the united states).

outsourced remote resources can be okay but most of them are not terribly creative. you want one procedure that you wrote up in a word doc done 2,000 times? fine, they'll do it. anything with actual thought or analysis? useless.

the outsourcers almost always overpromise on what the guys can do and hire people that are totally green and pay them shit. then much more expensive american/european resources ramp these people up and teach them. then once they have any experience they're worth more money, so they leave for another higher paying job. seat gets filled by the outsourcer by someone with no experience. repeat and rinse.

>>60861094

Ayn Rand isn't an authority on ideology or political philosophy in any way.

Bitch couldn't form a syllogism to save her life, which is why she wrote fictive sob-stories like every other modern hack "philosopher".

>>60869008
>>60869058
I wish i could get to work in the US. I want to leave europe quite badly. Shit's not going well with all the retards in charge.

>>60869256
If you work for a large company they can usually find a way. L-1 visa is pretty popular for getting people from overseas to the US, at least at my company.

>>60869272
>europe
>large company
heh

>>60863711
This assumes new jobs are available for everyone. In an economy that's going through a recession, retraining and looking for a new job isn't easy. Especially when you're a 55 year old industrial engineer with 30 years of experience.

>>60868530
t. pajeet

your days are over
time to get back to shitting on the street
o wait you were doing it anyway haha

>>60865496
The more you depend on the state, the less free you are.

>>60864313
>>60861106
>>60865453

Forced integration is the key phrase.

>>60869368
It's completely the opposite in this case. If people were guaranteed healthcare even when after they leave their job there's less barriers for them to leave that job. This allows people to take risks and can create new industries. It also frees up businesses from the burden of providing healthcare to their employees even if it goes against their religious beliefs. An educated population creates newer businesses.

please do the needful and off yourself

>>60866257

No its not shitfuck.

Foreigners use the university as a path to get a visa into the US, they take American jobs and their education is subsidized by the universities via scholarships.

Americans are literally paying Wang and Pajeet to come here, be trained and take American jobs.

>>60866257
>I dont understand how taxes work
they get hella scholarships and bursaries, shit we're paying for. Not to mention they usually get to claim this shit back in taxes over the following years if they remain in the country. So as long as they stay a few years later it's mostly credited back

Its funny how these threads will remain
But post a anti british or anti america thread
And boom it gets 404'd

>>60860922
Why would the US give a single fuck about what some Indian's company?

>>60871543
And if the state decides you're undesirable or it goes belly up or undergoes a radical policy change, everyone is suddenly fucked

>>60873077
Not any different from a private company doing the same. If anything it's even more likely with a private insurance because companies work to make sure you get as little money for coverage as possible.

>>60873150
And if its a marketplace you can switch offers if the deal sours

If you're under the gubmint, you gotta eat what they feed you, like it or not

>>60873204
Not with Trumpublican-care. A pre-existing condition means you're fucked

>>60860922
if their job is to fling street shitters to america, they can right the fuck off.

>>60873231
The only way private insurance works is government regulations but it's almost pointless because the government could just pay the medical providers directly and cut out the middlemen in the process. Insurance providers are only there to make the system less cost-efficient for the people so they can profit off of the waste.

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