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This kills /g/
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>>60852685
Not everybody here is a computer programmer though.
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>>60852685
>This kills Ra/g/esh
FTFY
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feelsgoodman

interesting times coming.
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>>60852685
Fucking great.
Gonna love the tears of you cheap code monekeys.
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The entire world is about to be shaken up by AI.

Tech industry will be no different.
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>>60852727
I really get pissed off when code monkeys refer to their bullshit as "tech", and call themselves "software engeneers".

Technology, as in "people actually making new things" is gonna be better than ever.
But dont worry I'll pay you to polish my shoes.
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>>60852758

Heh. The tech industry is everything from the lowly administrator, to the actual engineer telling the code monkey what to write. AI will be disruptive when it becomes widespread. But we are so far off from that we might see it at the end of our lifetimes.
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>>60852803
If your gob isn't at least a silicon manufactoring technologist you suck.
The only "tech" people I actually respect are the hardware people and maybe the chief monkeys that actually know math.
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>>60852839
how many people do you think understand chemical vapor deposition to design ICs? it's a rare and difficult skill that boarders physics, chemistry, and logic. that isn't tech that's motherfucking science.
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I'm a neet
you can't automate this
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>>60852855
>technology /tɛkˈnɒlədʒi/
>the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, especially in industry.

"tech" is a buzzword
Smartphone "apps" and fidget spinners arent technology
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Better become a Robot now

Let's all
>>>/r9k/
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>Artist
>1.5%
YALL LAUGHED AT ME, BUT WHO'S LAUGHIN NOW
not me, because when half he population loses their jobs to Ai I will just be forced to pay more tax for their welfare
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>>60852878
Actually there's an MIT research team making a robot that can sleep in bed until 4pm.
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Until Skynet rises out if the ashes of the programmers and you'll be begging us to write some sort of virus to take it down.
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>>60852722
How is that job not automatable? Sounds easy as fuck to automate.

>machine sorts medication
>machine prints bottles and dispenses medication
>machine displays FAQs
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>>60852758
It is tech. No one gives a shit about your autistic sperg-outs over word-use which is technically correct, and conventional.
>>>/a/utismweb
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>>60852966
The first two are already automated.
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>>60852685
Who will program the fucking robots? (By the way, the answer is not robots, not for another 100 years at least.)

AI will only take over the repetitive tasks that Pajeet currently does. CS will go back to being a profession for smart, creative people with strong mathematical background.
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>>60852988
So the pharmacist just takes a bottle and hands it to me, while reading the directions on the side? That's their entire fucking job? Why aren't they being paid minimum wage?
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>>60852996
Most of the "programmers" on /g/ are barely any better than pajeet.
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>>60852966
>bug results in completely wrong medication being dispensed
>patient takes it anyway and dies
>how could that happen? who's responsible?
it's a safe job because machines can't have responsibility and the resonsibility is tied to licensing. even if all the actual work is automated there would still be a licensed person being responsible for whatever the machine does.
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>>60852996
The robots who program the robots who program the robots who...
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>>60853025
>the programmer just types on his keyboard to call some standard functions? why isn't he paid minimum wage?
because the details are a lot more complicated than a layman can come up with.
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>>60853033
The cost of not paying a few pharmacists will offset any lawsuits, especially since they will most likely have insurance.

Same reason automated cars will work. The few crashes that happen will be offset by not paying people to drive.
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>>60852685
People have claimed that programming would be a solved thing since the creation of C.
There will always be a need for experts, it doesn't matter what field.
Smart people don't fear automation.
Stupid people should fear it though.
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>>60853059
I bet patients will flock to your "software bug might kill you but fear not, we're insured!" robot pharmacy.
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...well you're gonna need someone to program the A.I....
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>>60853075
I rather take the chance of software bug killing me than human making an error and killing me
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>>60853075
That's why it'll be gradual. Just like grocery store checkout lines. 1 person running 8 self checkouts while workers in the other lanes are still there.
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>>60852685
This is exactly why I'm in a masters program with a concentration in machine learning.
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>>60852685
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>>60853098
This tbqh. Even simple flow charts are better than doctors in recognizing a illness correctly
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Someone has to fix the robots. Or fix the robots that fix the robots. Or fix the robots that fix the robots that fix the robots.
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>>60852988
So the only part remaining is mailing to the customer.

Should be 98% then. Amazon already does this fully automated, all they need to do is get a license to fill prescriptions and it will be game over for pharmacists.
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>>60853134
/thread
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>>60853093
dont worry, pajeets will do it in java
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>>60853121
ultimately, everything can be automated. I'm aware of that. but until automats can't solve unforseen problems, i.e. innovate, they won't replace me because when I have to innovate the stakes are high. e.g. a child needs a certain antibiotic right now but the suspension made for children of its age is currently not available due to shortages. I've had such cases more than once and there is no one "correct" solution to that problem, especially none anyone would program a machine to do before it happens.
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>>60852727
>trusts in AI
Have you seen the kind of cruddy software people write?
To write software that writes software is an even higher bar to meet. But I can certainly agree that a lot of people will lose their jobs. But it's not because AI is good it's because they're so crappy.
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>>60853033
This desu. I think its not as simple as rigorous testing like in planesoftware etc

For it to be better than human it needs to be a neural net and you never know how they came to their conclusion. I dont think its reliable other than for helping.
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I mean how can /g/ be this stupid. If you had any idea what you're talking about, you'd know AI isn't going to be here for a long time, and the "AI" people refer to today is just machine learning.

The only programmers that are getting replaced by machine learning are the ones that do really simple tasks like basic basic front end web development.

We are so far from making AI that can be told a programming problem, then logically solve it.
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Heheheh
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>>60852685
>>60853134
What's the difference? I thought of myself as a programmer but I guess I fit software developer slightly better because I have customer interaction.
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>>60852996
Who this knob goblin?
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salty college students with a shitton of debt
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Not gonna replace a soldier in my lifetime at least
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>>60852685
Not really, no. I'm a pharmacist (:
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>Not working in a field with less than 1% chance of automation
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>>60853297
:3
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>>60853313
Again, I don't see how that won't become automated.
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>>60853224
A software developer or engineer tries to figure out the best solution for a customer's problem in the form software. A programmer is someone the developer or engineer sends the design off to. A developer or engineer can also be the programmer.
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>>60853321
Because humans are a thousand times more flexible than what robots will ever be and people who are sick and vulnerable don't want to be taken care of by a robot
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>>60853335
wait until he's 18 and study IT in the army
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>>60853335
Not go on a website for adults for starters.
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>>60853335
Not post on an 18+ image board.
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>>60853351
>>60853350
not him but
/g/ is a blue board desu
get fucked
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>>60853345
Sounds good, maybe this 14 year old would do it
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>>60853321
The study providing the date is pretty swallow. iirc they used some characteristics of jobs and made some assumptions. I.e. lots of human contact: hard to automate, little human contact: easy to automate.

In the same vain one could argue that delivering letter is pretty hard to automate because every mailbox is different, there is traffic, etc. Or you could just think a bit further and maybe you don't need a physical letter but an e-mail is sufficient.
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>>60853355
>/g/ is a blue board desu
End yourself, retard.
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>>60853355
Blue board just means it's work safe, 4chan as a whole is mature only.
Read the rules.
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>>60853355
It's a global rule, fuckface.
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>>60853350
>>60853351
But the 14 year old boy doesnt go on 4chan
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>>60853380
>being edgy and cranky
ok
>>60853383
>>60853385
it's a rule, not a law, learn the difference
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>>60853387
You're like one of those trench coats with two kids stacked up on each other in it trying to buy alcohol.
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>>60853387
Well, I think we're all good then. No more arguments needed.
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>>60853405
This
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>>60853392
LEA won't care, sure, mods might.
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>>60853392
>it's a rule, not a law
????
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>>60853313
>>60853315
Could be fucking worse eh
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>>60853405
don't try to put the thread back on its rails you fucker

youngsters out reeeeeee
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>>60853432
yea, fuck your attempt to develop marketable skills early on in life
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Thanks
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>>60852685
>oh no who will i pay $60k a year to write constructors and accessor methods?
also this >>60852701
rip pajeet
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>>60853335
Start learning a programming language. Find something that motivates you to get through rough/frustrating times. Perhaps a goal.
Virtually any language is fine to start with. Don't worry too much about that.
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>>60853033
humans definitely don't do that already. great argument.
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>>60853559
Thanks anon, I guess the 14 year old would do that.
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>>60853421
How can EMTs be automated????
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>>60853351
>>60853392
I don't think the mods give a shit whether you classify it as a rule or law
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>>60853790

Dispatchers.

Not the actual crews on trucks.

Person calls 911, truck gets sent, all by 911.
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>0.42% physician

If we're talking about the whole profession, I'd say that's about right. If we're talking about individual tasks, the number is way, way low. In 20 years I expect MOST tasks physicians/general practioners do today to be either automated fully or augmented by tech.
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Hasn't this already been taken over by... calculators?
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thank you based STEM
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>>60853421
I want to become a nurse and down the line a paramedic, but isn't it more likely that nurses would be replaced by automation than paramedics?
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>>60854528
I have no idea anon. I have considered getting a degree in nursing after Emergency Medicine but scrapped the idea as soon as I got the job.

One thing for sure, paramedic has more responsibilities than nurse. Paramedics administer drugs which nurse cannot (here a nurse on her own can only administer paracetamol, nothing else), we do small surgical procedures that a nurse cannot and the whole ITLS/ALS shenanigans.

On the other hand, nurse is about care. Would you like to be taken care of by a robot? Human contact is important.
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I am not American, so I don't know exactly what box I fall into.
I have a msc in robot systems engineering and my job title is research assistant.
CE is the closest american degree but your education system is different.
Civil engineer only covers buildings and bridges for you guys.
Control engineer covers it, but it is not a term I see used by Americans.
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good, i'll no longer take blames for shitty engineering designs
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>>60854603
It's about where you work not what papers you got.
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>>60854612
forgot pic
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>>60852685
Ha-ha, /g/ on suicide watch.
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Seems a little high
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>robots can't even find my job
git gud
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>>60852685
>implying
programmers will become creative designers for hierarchical structures for practical application ai
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>>60852685
Get rekt programmers
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Fucking bullshit, most of what I do could already be automated. As RDBMS improve there's less and less need for human interaction with it.

Even if not completely replaced I don't think there will be a need for more than 1-2 DBA per major MSP in ~10 years. Well, I won't complain if I'm wrong though.
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>>60853470
>>60852701
Kek no, pajeets are still cheaper, it's just that all the jobs that can be done by machines will be and the rest is still pajeets
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>>60852966
LAW

you won't see a machine being allowed to dispatch medicine anytime soon kid
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>>60852685
In the 50s up through the 60s, there was extensive research to develop "artificial programming." That research was wildly successful, it produced something called a "compiler," which allowed the same program to be created and maintained in fewer man-hours. When people talk about automating this particular job, they're talking about higher-level languages.
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>>60853289
That's gonna be one of the first professions to get replaced. No one wants to get shot at.
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>>60853339
There's nothing more creative than a PRNG. This whole "humans are inherently creative" meme needs to die.
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>>60852722
Pharmacists are already being automated lol
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>>60856966
I work as a pharmacist. You won't automate that job it's simply impossible. People come up directly to you with all sorts of issues, you need to ask them for more details more often than not to be able to give them something and adjust the right dosage.
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This website is wrong in every way
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>>60857057
>ng in every way

Truth

Take an automata theory course and you'll find out that all but the simplest programming cannot be automated.
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Closest I could find to my job.

I work in Governance in a University - writing/drafting policy, and servicing committees for change to University regulations.

This kind of job is pretty hard to automate, just because there is so much discussion and human thought that goes into policy change
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>>60854620
I work at a university.
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>>60853224
Programmer = generic pajeet who writes code based on what is given to him (codemonkey)
Developer = thinks up efficient algorithms that fit what is required of the program, designs the parts of the software and how they fit together
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>>60858137
>Developer = thinks up efficient algorithms that fit what is required of the program, designs the parts of the software and how they fit together
that's an engineer tho
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>>60852685

Not really because i don't make a living as a computer programmer. i work a convenience store
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>>60852722
>Pharmacist
>Literally a fancified version of a McJob

instead of making and selling burgers you do it with medicine
wow, whoa
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>>60857830
Most self-identified "programmers" can only do the simplest programming, though.
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>>60858258
Again, truth.
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>>60852685
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Oh no, the robots
I was too busy learning mandarin because I got told the chinks would take over the world 20 years ago
Now I have to worry about the AI takeover in the next 10 years!!!!!
What will I do?????????
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>>60858297
dude why the fuck are you learning mandarin
retard
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>>60858305
Not him, but if he can successfully learn mandarin as an adult, he's not a retard.
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Can a robot be a NEET?
Yeah didn't think so either.
Touche.
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>>60858228
Yeah and a physician is a fancified version of a car mechanic.

instead of figuring out what's wrong with your body and fixing it you do it with human body wow whoa

fuck i wish /v/eddit left and never came back.
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Could be worse I think. I was doing accounting until I shifted to this position.
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Yessir
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https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/15-1142-network-and-computer-systems-administrators
Obviously, I'm not substitutable.
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Let me give you the TLDR version of this thread

>Does your job provide value for society and can be done by low skill workers?
50%~90% chance

>Does your job provide value for society and needs at least two years of school?
30~50% chance of being automated

>Is your job controlled by happy merchants who limit the supply of workers to increase their pay?
0~3% chance
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shit
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>>60858439
>>60858446
off by .5
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welp
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>>60858439
>Implying medicine fits the last criteria
Back to /pol/
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This is bullshit

I could automate my entire job easily if I wanted to
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>>60858487
I don't know how my job can be fully automated? I think robots would just make my job easier.
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>>60852685
>not becoming a robotnet maintainer
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>>60852839
>Projected Growth: -2%
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>>60852996
>AI will only take over the repetitive tasks that Pajeet currently does.
Fun fact:
75% of indian jobs might get AI'D.
50% in China.
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>>60858684
41%
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>>60855977
It being currently against the law is one of the weakest defenses to automation imaginable. The worst position to be in is a job that is easily automated but not because people don't yet have faith in the system, rather than a job that is difficult or economically unfeasible to automate.

Because one day that law will change, and it will probably be soon. Then poof, automated.
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>>60853811
Dispatchers aren't EMTs
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>>60859132
Not him but here they are. To be a dispatcher you have to be an EMT with at least 2 years of work in the field.
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Well fuck you too, I guess.
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>>60855977
self driving cars used to be illegal 10 years ago
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>>60852839
Switched from aerospace engineering to computer after 1st year partially because of the job market, there's no jobs to be automated.
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>>60858206
what is a vending machine?
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>>60852685
Not only should this one have an entry, it should be HIGH in points.
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>>60858228
it's an underrated mcjob, you won't be making millions but guaranteed a comfy income of 100k
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I have no idea what the fucking difference is between a software engineer and a programmer. I have a engineering degree and spend most of my time, programming, designing databases and whatever else the company needs me to do.
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>computer repair not even in the list

Guess I'm safe. I'm sure you could build a machine that could fix a laptop, but it would be cost prohibitive. Nobody wants to pay a million dollars for a amchine that fixes 400 dollar craptops
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>>60852685
so.. basically if you are in top 52% you have nothing to worry about :^)
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>>60854330
calculators cant compute the effects of 90 grams of steel moving at 40 kph in a snow storm then colliding with a wooden wall thats a half inch thick and has been decaying for 40 years.
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>>60858058
why cant the 1% develop a drug that kills off a random 75% of the world.

At that point automatic will be NEEDED.

=\
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>>60858640
>>60858487
So easy that your customer doesn't even need you. Obviously.
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>people who told you to get a "real job" are most likely going to lose their jobs while you'll still have yours
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>>60860122
Cont'D
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>>60859202
cant wait to see security robot go rouge
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>teenagers won't be able to get their first jobs at McDonalds and other fast food restaurants anymore
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>>60860093
I doubt robots can do that much consulting.
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>>60858305
Because if you can speak Mandarin you can be understood pretty much everywhere in Mainland China, whereas if you know Cantonese good luck especially considering the language of the majority and those in power is Mandarin.
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>4chan right-wingers (primarily /pol/) says liberal arts are useless for getting a job, tells people to go to a trade school for a labor job instead
>labor sector gets automated and everyone loses their job
>liberal arts jobs are still secure for the foreseeable future

BLOWN...
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>>60852722
That is such bull
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>>60852878
Rocks have been automating NEEThood for billions of years. Humans are the new blood.
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>>60860252
Why would you automate something useless?
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>>60860277
Psychology isn't useless.

>in before anti-intellectualism meme
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>>60852839
Isn't that industry growing massively with the advent of comercial space flight?

All the talk of stations, mars, moon, mining planets and astroids.
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>>60860277
Yeah, get a career that won't exist by 2025.
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>>60852685
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https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/43-9061-office-clerks-general
Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
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It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down~
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>>60854603
Mechatronics?
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>>60852722
that's a lready automated
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>>60858245

Sex robots are coming soon anyway, so technically you are fucked
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/3/ must be feeling pretty smug right about now.

https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/27-1014-multimedia-artists-and-animators
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>>60860383
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>>60853313
>Working in a field where you are undervalued, clean up other peoples bodily fluids, and get payed shit.
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>>60860024
A CPU is just a hotter, more expensive calculator with more lightning inside it
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>>60860520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHMpR5F-2v4
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who can beat me
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>>60860463
*literally
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wew. although everyone has differing opinions on what art direction is.
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>>60860437
then why is the field growing with pretty much no unemployment? are you mistaking computer assistance with automation?
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>>60860267
explain, mr. wise-ass.
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>>60860383
>>60860520
Actors will be completely digitized. The future of cinema is full CGI. Actors get injured, grow too old for a role and of course pass away, but none of that will matter anymore thanks to the upcoming full CGI revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UblcNFVVHT8
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>>60852685
>>60853465
>>60860328
>>60860383
>4 people on /g/ do not have an ad blocker.
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>>60860654
I have ublock origins installed but somehow that ad got through.
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>>60860700
install brave.
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>>60852685
The singularity will make all of humanity obsolete. That said, I don't see robots taking the jobs of programmers any time soon. Automation will just make the tedious parts of software development easier, such as QA testing.
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>>60854416

I work in a kind of fringe grey area in research, in a physics department but I develop custom automated software to run other software and analyze data. I must say, that work can't be done without supervision right now but when it happens, it's going to hit hard all the "scientists" running black box software and only having to write input (which they got mostly out of their asses) and plot data to show off in symposiums.
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>>60856867

This. FFS, automation has already happened, none of you are writing in Assembly only are you? Ra/g/esh is not going anywhere, sorry to break it to you guys
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>>60860647
That still requires voice actors
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>>60854330
300k starting
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>>60858320
You're right. A robot has a function. NEETs have none.
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>>60860302
>prescribing anti-depressants and other degenerative drugs is now psychology
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>>60860562
When will A.I replace my gf?
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>>60860917
That's psychiatry, the study and treatment of mental disorders.
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>>60860927
When you accept this.
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>>60860302
Not as a field but I've gone through 5 different ones now and 12 different antidepressants and their effects can't be described as anything positive.
So that does make them quite useless.
They only really seem to help the kind of people you see visiting on TV in the drama shows. People who literally just need someone to talk to.
Priests do the same thing.
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>>60860879
You already have a giant library of their voices that can be easily used to train a neural network.
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>>60860939
oWo~
1D>2D
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>>60852722

I spent the weekend in a state hospital installing robots that dispense medicine to patients after they scan their fingers and type in their name. Theyre doing it bdcause of all the meds that go missing. The pharmacists and nurses are basically drug dealers at this point. But yes this automated pharmacist thing is happening sooner rather than later
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>>60861078
>he thinks that physically dropping the drugs into the hands of the patients is what pharmacists do
lol we'll be fine.
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>>60852685
That website is full of shit. So pharmacist says 1% yet it's plain as day that it will happen.

Truck driver says 71% a job which has yet to be automated but airplane pilot which is 100% automated says 55%.

Also says gardener or groundskeepers at 98% and construction worker at 76%.


Whoever made that website go suck a wrake handle.
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>>60861126
>airplane pilot which is 100% automated
and yet there are still 2 pilots on every plane. because assistance != automation.
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>>60861119

that's one facet of their job that's automated. the rest in due time
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>>60853313
>tfw getting ready to go into nursing

Feels good, man.
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>>60861137
There is no reason other than tradition and cost of replacing the entire fleet. We have the texhibition for entirely automated flight and it is proven in every way safer than manned flight.
>>
Huh not that bad considering I do jack shit most of the time.
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>>60860122
You're not really totally safe, it's more like restaurants in that your entire job relies on others having spending money. If automation kills 30% of jobs in the next decade, you're still fucked as no one can afford entertainment.
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>>60860122
> median pay
> *
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>>60860252
>0.43%
>already automated in 1966 with ELIZA, the emacs psychoanalyst
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>>60860302
Yeah, unless your problems are minor, they are useless. Have social anxiety? Need friends that won't abandon you for being depressed? They can do nothing for you other than prescribe some pills that don't even have significant evidence they work. Meanwhile weed, ketamine, shrooms, ecstasy, etc. Have all proven to be extremely effective for treating mental problems, whole thing is just a denial of the fact life sucks and a lot of people will never be happy in this world.
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>>60860122
>musician
>job
that's not a job, that's a hobby you're trying to make money off of.
Nobody is going to pay you a regular wage to strum your ukulele.
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>>60860024
They could if they could parse the problem

>parse sentence
>look up relevant physics formulas
>apply formulas to data

The third part is already solved, and we're making progress towards the first two
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>>60860540
>get payed shit
maybe in a third world country. In the US, RN's get like 70k a year.
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>>60852685
Feels good man
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>>60860540
I don't live in a third world country like the US, people actually have respect for medical staff here and we have livable wages. And cleaning up other peoples bodily fluids beats being a cuck who sits in an office 9-5 with his only purpose to make his boss richer
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>>60853033
human error exists

a machine only has to make statistically less errors to be a viable replacement

this is a stupid argument
>>
>48% of Computer Programmers
>Oh didn't we mention? That includes the huge swaths of code monkeys that learned everything from a 3 week javascript bootcamp
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>>60858305
Call him a retard, but you will never really understand that it is you who is the real retard, There are many reasons to learn Mandarin.
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>>60852996
>cs cucks
>programming hardware
Sounds like a disaster, I would not want to place the future of this countries infrastructure on pajeets and cucks who can only grasp high level languages and need their hand to be held the whole way there.

Meanwhile I'll be chilling, especially once I get a masters.
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>>60853143
No they don't. Robots have been made which can fix other robots of the same type.
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I can't wait!

Right now whenever I have to program something, I have to think out how every detail of how it works and exhaust a lot of brain power pacing around figuring it all out.

But when computers take over, I can just go full-on "ideas guy" and just describe what I want to the computer and have it program it for me.
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>>60854690
>>60855929
>>60861627

Fuck yeah.

A large part of sys+net admin is the human side of working with your clients/company.
You have to be able to holistically look at an organization and determine its requirements, and then maintain that system. Once computers get to that point, we will basically have AI.

The key though is that you have to stay up to date on current trends and technologies. You can't become that cranky sysadmin that pigeonholes himself into working a specific technology for 15 years, and when he inevitably gets laid off, is completely unmarketable.
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>>60852685
>my sides
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>>60853025
because they could skim pills and sell/take them if they aren't paid enough.
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>>60860556
And a chatbot it's an AI apparently.
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>>60861795
You're lazy brainlet and part of the reason we will become a WALL-E-esque 'porpoisificated' species.
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>>60854690
>implying the cloud + docker won't take your job
My company is moving right now to have everything in the cloud and have software engineer gradually push deployments that can easily be rolled back if something goes wrong. It's becoming more of a trend and soon only helpdesk and internal network fags will be left in the IT department. (unless you're one of the few thousand that actually get to work on cloud infrastructure)
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Quite surprising
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yeah this website is bullshit
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>>60861897
I think that a sysadmin in it's traditional sense won't last much longer.
You're right that a lot of places are going to that cloud + devops environment, and you're not going to find the old sort of thing where every business has it's email/application/AD all hosted and managed on site.

Hell, even we're (USAF) moving non-sensitive email to office cloud managed by MS.
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>>60861666
not the type of glaring errors computers routinely make. to minimize human errors there are computer assistants, but they will won't be full replacements until every human is obsolete.
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>>60862144
>at a hospital, teaching nurses to use the new updated software for dispensing medication
>a nurse comes up to me furious because the software won't let her dispense the proper medication for a patient
>follow her to the terminal and take a look
>it's warning that the dosage is horribly incorrect
>double check with a doctor
>if she had actually dispensed that and given it to the patient, he would have died
>she starts crying

Humans are *much* worse at this shit than software.
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>>60862043
Robots could do that more accurately and quicker.
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>>60860243
Where's that "don't learn mandarin" copypasta when you need it?
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>>60861336
>We have the texhibition for entirely automated flight and it is proven in every way safer than manned flight.

That is fucking bullshit. Automation in aviation has only proved one thing, that if something goes wrong none of the crew have time to react or any fucking clue of what to do, because automation has created a "black box" and the pilots with all the training they have, don't have neither the time nor the practice anymore to actually fly a fucking plane. When problems arise, the plane fucking crashes.

Look up children of the magenta
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>>60862230
>>60862043
To be fair, look at this shit, it doesn't even make sense and they already dominate that position.
It should AT LEAST be 95%, or more accurately 99.9%, if not 100%.
>I originally posted the wrong picture.
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>>60862193
>nurse
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Looks like I'm safe.
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>>60862412
>implying pharmacists don't make exactly the same kinds of mistakes just as often
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>>60853313
?
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>>60862309
It makes sense, as machines will dominate the manufacturing side of machinery, whereas they can not think or determine specific situations. Humans are able to use logic and critical thinking, machines obey orders.
>>
>>60862760
pharmacy is great in that the software makes their job easier but laws require they be present, it's like the easiest 100k job ever
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>>60862858
I thought we wanted to work towards robots doing the actual surgery since they can make much more precise movements (?).
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>>60862144
>machines that make statistically less errors than humans make more errors than humans

you can't argue with this

machines don't get tired or have off days

you are underestimating the state of technology or overestimating humans
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>>60860252
>All 8 liberal arts jobs paying 25k a year are still secure for the foreseeable future
kek
>>
arent some jobs like airplane pilots almost completely automated but still have people working it anyway?
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>>60863141
Technology has improved to the point where airplanes can pretty much fly and even land themselves. They are even getting pretty good at handling "normal" emergencies like engine failures and depressurizations.

Where pilots really shine though are the type of abnormal and emergency situations that aren't "in the book".

When an engine flies apart and shreds the hydraulic lines on all three redundant hydraulic systems, a computer will be out of options because it was never programmed to handle that (because it was considered "virtually impossible" when it was designed). A pilot on the other hand can analyze and experiment until he finds enough of a solution to keep the airplane in the air as they work through other issues.
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k
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>>60862954
Robots aren't intelligent enough to do surgery on their own. The da Vinci is controlled by a surgeon, after all.

Unless artificial intelligence can develop its own form of intuition as humans have, it will never be able to fully automate every field out there.
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>>60852685
i'm not worried.
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>>60852685
>Network and Computer Systems Administrator
>3%
Couldn't be better.
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>>60862284
Here ya go, Anon.
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>0.43%
hahaha STEMfags BTFO
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>>60854690
>changed major from computer programming

feels goodman
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>>60860355
Correct answer
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>>60863283
Holy shit. What the fuck did I just read?
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>>60863509
One of the most enlightening things you'll ever read, this drove me to learning Korean and Japanese instead.
>>
>>60852685
You have to program to have a chance at a job and get doesn't know that so I don't think g is kill
>>
so how do I become a sysadmin
>>
>>60863683
install gentoo
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>>60863698
done
next
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>>60863708
nice try, you can't install gentoo that quickly

t. Gentoo user
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>>60863724
I'd already installed gentoo many times
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>>60863741
You need a GNU install. :^)
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>>60863768
gross
how do I become a bsd sysadmin
>>
>>60863788
install openbsd
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>>60863818
I'm running openbsd
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>>60863827
Install Arch.
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>>60863875
I also run arch but how will that make me a bsd sysadmin
>>
>>60863827
congrats, you are now a sysadmin, of your own system
>>
>>60863890
Just learn networking and computer security?
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>>60863913
great, now robots won't replace me
but how do I make money with this
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>>60860601
I'm not a recreational therapist but I believe this is the lowest.
>>
Are any pegged at 100% like truck driver?
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>>60860252
>Psychologists
>0.43%
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0.0% - NEET

Just another reason to live the comfy NEET life before Mr. Goldberg decides to cut costs by replacing you with a robot.
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>>60863938
>recreational therapist
Does that mean you do it for free/fun?
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>>60852685
Right, because decidability is likely to be solved in our future...
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>>60864006
>not accumulating wealth before the robocalypse
>>
>>60860946
>>60861569
Those are psychiatrists, psychologists can't prescribe drugs.
>>
>>60864055
>not prepping

The right is gearing up to oppose all efforts at socialism / UBI in order to depopulate the earth when all the jobs go away. You need to have a gun and lots of ammo to defend yourself from the uprising of "Trump supporters" for lack of a better term when the robots take all their jobs. You should have food too since prices will skyrocket.
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>>60864074
good luck paying for that as a neet
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>>60864099
I'm just saying stockpile things, not money.
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>>60852839
>being an aerocuck
lmao
>>
>>60864154
>t. boaty mcboatface
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>>60861897
The sysadmin's role is just evolving. The focus is now more on building disposable systems and decoupling your services from them, you won't be made obsolete if you learn to do this effectively.
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>>60864154
How is this lower?

Boats are simpler and we know way more about building them than spacecraft.
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I doubt this
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>>60864231
>Boats are simpler
that's where you're wrong kiddo
the history of Naval Engineering and Marine Architecture is full of things that were discovered with experience and where theoretical calculations aren't of much use. Each boat is basically a floating building and standardization isn't too high. Boats are made on custom order, even when some companies have some pre-designed stuff. Boats are one-offs most of the time.
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>>60860614
>projected growth: 2%
>people employed: 36,210
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>>60864296
We've had boats for centuries.

We've had spacecraft for less than 50 years.
>>
this things always seem to sketchy to me. Like why is Computer Hardware Engineer a 22% but electrical engineer 10%. How much more automated is the computer hardware engineering game compared to non computer related hardware.
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I don't get how it can be higher than 0% since computer assisted proofs are only useful in a handful of areas.
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>>60864322
Yeah, but modern boats are very different. Materials and manufacturing processes have changed. Scale has changed too. Modern supertankers are unbelievable, for example.
And NAME not only includes boats but also marine oil rigs and other stuff.
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>>60858402
Ayy buddy
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>>60852685
>he thinks the halting problem will be solved in 10 years
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>>60864351
Step foot in any industrial scenario and you'll see why.
EE isn't 'UHHH DESIGN A CIRCUIT BOARD', it's usually designing and implementing a wider control circuit with hundreds of separate components spread across an entire factory.
Shit breaks due to inherent problems and existing faults that the system is built upon.
A computer hardware engineer picks some components, designs a board and then a factory churns out 1000000 of them.
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>>60852758
There's a really distinct difference between the two and if you can't notice it you're no better than a pajeet
>>
>>60854603
If you have an msc in robotic systems I'd think you'd know the website here is not super accurate. Software development is a hard problem and ai folks have been promising world peace since like 1950. I do think we'll see many other jobs automate and we'll have ai tools so maybe individual devs will increase their productivity
>>
>>60855977
As soon as you're considered an unusually expensive peasant the law will change.
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>>60860796
which costs pennies compared to A list actors
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>>60860647
Trust doesn't even make sense. Defeats the entire purpose of acting. Nobody is there to act like the characters. Also, white Hollywood is trash
>>
>>60860647
Trust doesn't even make sense. Defeats the entire purpose of acting. Nobody is there to act like the characters. Also, white Hollywood is trash
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>>60858446
This is so not true.. your average lawmonkey is fucked
>>
>>60852685
>>60852722
should literally be the other way around
>>
>RN
>0.9%
>>
>>60864700
>Resident Nigger
>>
>>60865465
robots can never replace niggers
>>
>>60864638
It's true because law has fuck all to do with law and more to do with who you know, how much emotion and politics you can throw into your case, and how badly you can steer the dumbass judge into giving you the win.

So since almost none of it is logical or following an easy set of rules, automation is highly unlikely until advanced AI becomes a thing.
>>
Nice
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>>60852685
Tell me when robot take 100% shitposters
>>
>>60852685
>lets trust AI to program critical software
>and just hope it doesn't have its own agenda

Seems a bit short sighted.
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>>60865504
Law and it's applications will never be automated because it's not a matter of logic or emotion it's about human context of life because you can't ever be sure what it's like to be in the shoes of another.
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Hmmm,might end up doing boring HVAC though
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>>60852839
I built my own PC. Dual 1080tis. Do you respect me anon?
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>>60865506
>people employed: 6.4k
>projected growth: 4%
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>>60854578
>>60854528
shoot for the OR, ER, ICU for more responsibility and ability to do cool shit
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>>60858058
thats not a real job anon, but the proper title is bureaucracy
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>>60858058
are you low key a communist?
>>
>>60863019
and you're overestimating machines. they shine at assisting humans at menial and foreseeable tasks as part of their jobs, but they're still a long shot away from completely doing any sort of complex job. if you can break a complete job down to very basic rules and inputs, like driving, then it's relatively easy to model and to feed a machine with enough if-then to get the job done. but any job that semi-regularly requires you to do things not written in some handbook requires innovation and thus a human to get done, even if a machine assists in some or even most tasks. and by the time machines can innovate like humans all human labor is obsolete.
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>>60865482
because niggers (NGR) are cheaper and have a higher ROI?
>>
who the fuck will program the robots though? Do the robots program themselves?
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>>60858176
software developer vs software engineer is a completely arbitrary distinction.
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>>60853166
>Amazon Pharma

either the best or worst thing to ever happen. Bezos can be a bit of a fucking jew.
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