/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>tfw still no mainline reiser4

Wanna suck my dick?

>>60778296
It is feminine?

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Just found this

http://appimage.org/

Seems really nice. The application is made portable by surrounding it with a virtual file system, so the application runs in its own image ("appimage").

https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages
https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/AppImages

>>60778380
BLOOOOOOAT

>>60778380
fuck off

Is anyone else having trouble with KVM on Ryzen? I have a 1600X and Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5. On a fresh Arch install I'm getting a "kvm: disabled by bios" error. I enabled IOMMU in the BIOS, have the latest beta BIOS (F3B) and made sure TPM was disabled. Tried amd_iommu=on, iommu=1, iommu=pt as GRUB options but none of them appear to work. IOMMU groups are fine, but KVM itself isn't working for some reason and starting a QEMU VM will crash the computer. It's frustrating since I haven't seen anyone else with this issue yet.

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>>60778380
Fucking telemarketers.

>>60778476
Do you have kvm virtualization enabled in the kernel?

>>60778380
Just use Windows.
/wontfix,closed

>>60778481
It's free software under the MIT license.

>>60778515
Then why spamming it like "Just found this"?

>>60778619
I'm not even him, but it's software flavor of the month, just let it pass. It's like when sourcemage was shilled hard here at first and then the new fotm was found.

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>>60778259

>>60778499
I'm using the default Arch 4.11.3 kernel right now, it should have it by default according to the wiki. Running "zgrep CONFIG_KVM /proc/config.gz" returns CONFIG_KVM_AMD=m, which should be fine.

why on earth vi had to become the "standard" unix editor?

>>60778380
Tried the development version of gimp.
Doesn't work.

appimage = garbage

I have a 250gb SSD and a 1TB HDD.
How should I partition Ubuntu for maximum performance?

>>60778838
SSD for /
HDD for /home

>>60778853

and If I do this, where will the rest like /etc/ /usr go?

>>60778868
Everything that's not /home will go on the SSD.
I thought it's kind of self-explanatory isn't it?

>>60778877

Okay, thanks.

>>60778853
>SSD for /

>/tmp on SSD

RIP

>>60778831
because emacs is GPLd and that rustles the jimmies of bsdkeks.

Is Debian Stable secure?
How can I make it even more secure?

>>60778942
it isn't
you can't.

install sourcemage.

>>60778942
It's as secure as you make it.
Debian doesn't come with many security-enhacing features by default (like apparmor or selinux) because it's generally bloat. If you need them - you install them.
Just common sense stuff like close all ports etc.

>>60778942
You are the greatest threat to security. The biggest cybercrimes rely on social engineering, if they can exploit human error then nothing else will protect you.

>>60778907
>being this retarded
SSDs are more than capable of running a full OS and /tmp or /var should not be a problem for 99% of modern day SSDs

so I recently stalled ubuntu gnome, and I'm trying to figure out how I should be downloading/installing things. the software center says it uses the most updated version available, but newer versions are out on the software's website. should I be using the version gotten from the website or from the software center?

>>60779159
installed*

Reiser4 Vs btrfs?

>>60779159
>>60779174
As with any tool created by humans the same rule applies: If It ain't broken - don't fix it.

If the package version you currently have does not have a feature you would like to have from a newer version, just upgrade.

>>60779190
>rieser
Literally no reason to use this dead fs
>btrfs
Still corrupts raid arrays.Randomly corrupts filesystem

Just use ext4

Hello /fglt/, i'm a new linux user

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a bash command that can filter text files and output only the lines in the text file that are of a defined format?

>>60779054
>being this retarded
Enjoy you dead drives

>>60779280
I'm fairly sure grep should do.
What format are we talking about?

>>60779300
text file is full of urls, i need to filter a few urls of a specific format.

grep looks like what i'm looking for btw, thank you.

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>>60778385
>>60778392
>>60778481
>>60778505
>>60778834

Appimage has been endorsed by linus torvalds and mark shuttleworth themselves. Don't be retrograde, move with the times.

>>60779475
Why would i want a program that literally has the same libs and deps i have in my system already?
Why would i want a program thats going to come with 10gb of libs/deps when they exist on my system?
Why would i want a program that is going to force depend on the same libs/deps and all packages are 10gb+?
Why would i want a program where the writer includes 20gb of deps/libs becuase " lol it didnt work unless i put them in lololol"?

No thanks,id rather manage my system my self like i have for 30 years

>>60778476
>>60778499
Nevermind found the issue. Turns out there was an option for SVM buried in the overclocking section disabled by default. Now KVM is enabled. Didn't really look at the OC section since I didn't want to touch any of it until I was sure I wasn't going to return the board.

my wacom tablet acts like a touchpad instead of a tablet (stylus does not work)

how do I go about troubleshooting this? is it a problem with GNOME or something else? using Fedora 25 btw

>>60779550
arch wiki

>>60778831
ed is the standard text editor

>>60778831
>unix
You mean that proprietary system from the 70s?
>>60778942
Stable has the best security.
>how to make more secure
iptables/ufw, firejail, tor, dns security
ArchWiki has a good security article.
>>60779159
The latest version doesn't mean it's the best version for your distro. Also try synaptic and ditch that gay ass software center.

>>60779280
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/
awk, sed and grep sections
>>60779475
Torvalds isn't an autority. In fact he's a proprietary software shilling faggot.

>>60779830
a bit more respect for linus please

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What DE has a decent filepicker with thumbnails? I am thinking of dropping KDE.
What are the cool kids using these days?

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>>60779475
wew lad

>>60779913
patched gtk2

>>60779913
arch linux

I ported my headless arch server to PulseAudio for sound.
How do I make this start at boot without having to have a connection?
Currently pulseaudio only runs when I ssh into the box.

>>60779990
pulseaudio can be used as a system-wide service, started as an init.d service or memed service. Search for "pulseaudio system wide" for howtos.

How do you clone OS from HDD to SSD, if the SSD is smaller in size than the HDD?
However the used space by the HDD is still lower than the total storage capacity of the SSD?
Current partition if it makes a difference.

NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0   255M  0 part /boot
├─sda2   8:2    0  29.3G  0 part /
├─sda3   8:3    0 432.5G  0 part /home
├─sda4   8:4    0     1K  0 part 
└─sda5   8:5    0   3.8G  0 part [SWAP]

Did a presentation on software freedom today and a fellow student (master's programme) installed xubunut today on my recommendation; I gave him a list of fully free software to use for his needs.
Did I do good?

>>60780147
Dont clone,use rsync to transfer data over

>>60780147
Mount the two parts. Assuming /mnt/src /mnt/dst

rsync -av /mnt/src/ /mnt/dst/

And after that edit your grub config and /etc/fstab to reference correct partitions.

>>60778380
Appimage is hacky and failure prone. Flatpak is the future here.

>>60780165
>>60780174
I thought about using rsync to keep the two clones up to date.
Didn't know you can do that.

What if I used something like clonezilla?

>>60780151
>xubuntu

No. That abomination is the worst thing happened to xfce.

>>60780183
>Flatpak is the future here
In what way?
AppImage have the support of KDE, flatpak is available to RH beta testers.

>>60780215
How so? Just werks. Looks decent. Easy to use. Free license. Told him to not install the nonfree stuff. All good.

>>60780215
I thought manjaro was the worst thing that happened to xfce.

>>60780240
1. it doesn't look decent, it look and set up to look like garbage to a normal, plain xfce install that you'd get from for example opensuse, debian or gentoo
2. it comes with ubuntu bloat while doesn't install xfce4 programs

>>60780290
>it doesn't look decent
Yes it does, unless you're the type of retard who spends a week "customizing" their Arch Linux install with naked anime girls. He's not a beginner so is perfectly able to change it if he doesn't like the looks.
>ubuntu bloat
It comes with sane, lightweight programs that you can replace as needed. It lacks the bloated Unity programs.
>doesn't install xfce4 programs
Wrong.

good thread

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Can I run firejail in firejail in firejail?

>>60778259
How can I disable mousewheel scrolling affecting widgets in Plasma such as comboboxes.

Who else is addicted to run

pacaur -Syu

every 15 minutes?

>>60781920
>falling for the arch meme

>>60781962
What are you using?

>>60782028
The best.

>>60781962
>replying to people who fell for the arch meme

>>60782045
>replying to people who reply to people who fell for the arch meme

>>60782054
>replying to people who replying to people who reply to people who fell for the arch meme

>>60782073
>memeing memed memes

>>60782041
You're probably not and you're afraid of me laughing at you. Arch is the pinnacle of desktop distros for people who actually use their machine for more than screenfetch desktop posing.

>>60782085
pls stop recommending systemd distros

>>60779280
$<command> | grep wordyouwanttofilter > outputfile.txt
This will overwrite the file everytime you use it. If you want to keep previous command in the file add another > so it would be.
$<command> | grep word >> output.txt

>>60782080
]using the closing bracket that looks like a sideways carat

>>60782119
Oh, do you want to have a systemd discussion with me? Based on 99% of the posts on this topic, I'm fully convinced that everyone is merely too lazy to learn how systemd works. To most of you, the non-modular design doesn't matter at all. It's just laziness. If people who bitch truly cared, they would do something to get a better alternative.

Everyone who's working to improve GNU/Linux stability go with systemd. It's only the neckbeard who can't let go of obsolete designs who keep bitching without working towards a competitive alternative.

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>>60782196
>If people who bitch truly cared, they would do something to get a better alternative.
There are better alternatives though.
It's just that lazy systemd users always bitch about not being able to use their redhat software which was recently all locked down by systemd

Enjoy your cancer buddy.

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beware the redhat shill!

>>60782248
>There are better alternatives though.
Let's start here. What are those 'better' alternatives to you and why?

>>60782269
openrc based on sysvinit and upstart.

>>60780992
Since people rarly read the bash manual, have some useful bash options:

shopt -s autocd

Never type cd mydir again; mydir is enough.

shopt -s extglob

Allows you to do things like ls +(*jpg|*png).

shopt -s globstar

Allows you to do things recursivly like ls **/.c.

set -o noclobber

When you run foo > bar and bar already exists, the command fails. Can be overwritten with >| instead of >.

CDPATH='.:~/somedir/'

Whenever you type cd and autocomplete, additionaly to the current directory all directories in somedir are also autocompleted.

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>just get a better alternative LMAO XDD

>>60782285
It's really important that you elaborate on why these are supposed to be better. Right now you're telling me
>as long as it's not systemd
>a literally abandoned init daemon is better
which surely can't be you intent. Please explain.

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>>60782340
>but "rm -rf /foo/.*" will work the exact same way, no?

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Linux users are savages, confirmed.

https://youtu.be/NPVNEQE4R3M?t=17m34s

>tfw they have the security
>tfw they have the kernel
>tfw they have the audio
>tfw they have the init
What's Red Hat's next step?

>>60782411
Something something Windows but shittier.

>>60782405
>Counter culture OS
>>Hipster OS
oh fuck, roasted!

>>60782405
wtf I hate Linux now

>>60782411
Fedora

>>60782490
isn't fedora just a community distro?

>>60782380
If that were his intent, though, he'd still be right. Even leaving other concerns aside, systemd has been absorbing features too fast for proper auditing and bug fixing, so an abandoned but mature init system is in fact a better option.

This line of debate is deceptive, though. Firstly, it is not detractors who should provide alternatives to systemd - systemd is the newcomer and the one breaking established models, and the burden of proving that it is a worthy alternative is on its side.

And more importantly, systemd is not only an init system, so it isn't an alternative to previous init systems. It is an alternative to diversity and flexibility, among other things.

>>60782581
good post

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>>60782380
Too big to fail.

GNU/Linux is the legacy of Unix.
Unix philosophy is detrimental in the design process of low-level software for an operating system like GNU/Linux because it offers flexibility and interchangeability, two VITAL features that make GNU/Linux attractive as an operating system.
You don't like bit X, you replace it with sometihng else. And because every bit was designed with these features in mind - it's easy to do and it doesn't break anything else.
If GNU/Linux was right from the beginning like systemd is now it would be impossible to replace any crusty and outdated component of it because everything would be so meticulously intertwined with each other it would make a titanic task.
systemd being able to step in and replace every other init within such a short period of time is the merit of the way GNU/Linux and other systems are built, not because systemd is "so fucking good".
So systemd stepped in, was forced on everyone (redhat did a lot of shady business making sure it's adopted) utilized the benefit of unix design and now stomps on it without any regards whatsoever.

So now thanks to Lennart, his fellow cocksuckers from redhat and all the paid shills we're going to be stuck with systemd for the next 50 decades.
So please stuck this "werks for me xD" of yours up your arse and fuck off.

>>60782647
Obligatory fucking watch
https://youtu.be/wMvyOGawNwo

Obligatory fucking read
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/

Death to systemjew.

when i try to update i get

:: gnome-perl: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: gnome-vfs-perl: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: gnomecanvas-perl: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: perl-gnome2-wnck: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: perl-goo-canvas: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: perl-gtk2-imageview: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“
:: perl-gtk2-unique: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“

translation for this

 :: gnome-perl: инcтaлиpaњe perl (5.26.0-1) лoми зaвиcнocт „perl<5.25“

would be

 :: gnome-perl: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaking dependence „perl<5.25“

>>60782833
i tried to add force but it didnt help

>>60782833
buddy, do LANG=POSIX first, then run your command.

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>>60782581

>>60782291
saved some, thanks

Alright maybe this belong in /sqt/, but what do you guys use to get your news ? I don't have time to go on a bunch of website just to grab the info I want.

>>60782853

:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 multilib is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gnome-perl: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: gnome-vfs-perl: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: gnomecanvas-perl: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: perl-gnome2-wnck: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: perl-goo-canvas: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: perl-gtk2-imageview: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'
:: perl-gtk2-unique: installing perl (5.26.0-1) breaks dependency 'perl<5.25'

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>>60782875
>Systemd is not an alternative to previous init systems.
>It is an alternative to diversity and flexibility.
> -- Anonymous --
Wow, that really made me think. Are you a professional quote-maker, perchance?

>>60782939
Only when I'm euphoric.

>>60782411

It's free software, everyone has it.

>>60782938
>>60782833

You need to install more packages from the AUR, that will fix your problem.

>>60778259
Is there a way to make keyboard shortcuts on Debian, just installed it and got [spoiler]proprietary wifi drivers installed[/spoiler] not being able to ctrl+t to open a terminal is kind annoying.

>>60782971

Debian is a distribution. It has nothing to do with keyboard shortcuts.
Keyboard shortcuts are handled by software, the one making up your desktop environment.

>>60782971
Depends on your DE. But I recommend something like xbindkeys, so you can keep your hotkeys whenever you cance you de/wm.

>>60783005
change*

>>60782991
>>60783005
Im using LXDE and it's not in the same location as it was on Lubuntu

>>60782991
akchyually
i3 for example isn't a DE, but still handles keyboard shortcuts

>>60782971
but anon, Ctrl+t opens a new tab.

>>60783036
alt- is one key too many.

Also either Manj or Mint used ctrl+t and ive used it ever since.

>>60783031

Akshelly, i3 is part of your desktop environment.

>>60783026

LXDE uses Openbox as its window manager. You can edit your keyboard shortcuts in the ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file for your user.

>>60783087
Just use mod4 (Super). The modifier is bound to nothing.

>>60783093
>i3 is part of your desktop environment.
Uh no. I am using the XFCE desktop environment, and the i3 WM.

>>60783103
might give this a try, thanks anon

what is sudo pacman -Syudd

>crunchbang is ded
What to use?

>>60783114

i3 is part of your desktop environment, yes.

>>60783137

pacman --help

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>>60783141
ackshoually
i3 is part of the linux desktop

>>60783141
No, it is seperate from the DE, replacing some of the programs that are part of my DE. It's like saying your aftermarket car stereo is part of your Honda shitbox.

>>60778380
>inb4 flatpak snap
They are all shit, but I think AppImag, jailed of course, is the best one to try software before a proper install

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Let's say I'm not using a DE like GNOME or KDE, am I still using a DE and if so, what's its name?

>>60782930
Nextcloud rss plugin. Before I was using ttrss

>>60783162

Everything in your Xfce environment is separate. You can install and combine its elements however you want.

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>>60783186
how about linux?

>>60783212
>install XFCE
>replace web browser, file browser, WM, ....
>no XFCE parts left
By your logic the resulting system is still XFCE.

>>60783186
Is this a riddle?

>>60783186
i3 & partners DE

>>60783241

That's too philosophical for me. Too deep, overwhelmed.

>>60783186
>am I still using a DE
yes
>what's its name
nobody knows

that's basically the meme

>>60782581
Well, I disagree on the point of who has the burden. Right now systemd is tightly integrated in several distros and most of them cannot be run without it. What I'm suggesting is that any alternative has to beat systemd at its game to shove it out of those distros. For that, those alternatives have to be better at what systemd is supposed to be good at. Design philosophy in respect to diversity and flexibility is, like you said, not that strong point.

Posters like >>60782647 might say that it's all politics and hard specs do not actually matter in the choice. Forgive me if I read you wrong on that. That just how I interpret your response. But I'm more optimistic and think that the GNU/Linux community is the one userbase that is smart and reactive enough to pressure developers into switching to "better" init systems that do work as well or better with alternative features that are diverse and flexible.

Right now I really believe that for several distro maintainers, systemd appears to be the better choice. That has to be about performance and reliability. redhat might shill a lot, but who wants to keep working with crap? Simply saying that it's bad design philosophy won't cut it. The devs seem to not care. systemd needs to become objectively worse at its own selling points.

>>60783241
I think his/her point was rather that it would still be your DE in the actual sense of the word, no matter how many parts you substitute. He is not referring to any specific desktop environments as I see it.

>>60783162
Why would it no be a part of your Honda shitbox after you installed it? It physically becomes a part of it after all. Might be accurate to say that it is not a part of the "Honda shitbox template" or something.

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>not building your own Linux distribution on top of a self compiler kernel

>>60783336
>>>/b/

There was a way to view files that were being modified on the go. How did you go on about doing that?

I don't know if

cat ./file | less

shows the updated version on the run.

I mean, let's say a file is being edited and saved repeatedly, and you want to monitor it live. How do you go on about doing that?

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>>60783343
Drinking straw are technology.

>>60783301
But i3 is a WM, not a DE.

>>60783359
what am I feeling when looking at this picture?

>>60783368
kek

>>60783355
>cat file|less
Just do less file.
To follow new contents: less +F file
There's also tail -f file

>>60783412
Oh thanks a lot!

Guys, don't forget that debian stretch is getting released next caturday the 17th.

why did debian adpot systemd? isn't debian run by the community? don't they have votings?

>>60781920

there is nothing to do

Makes me both glad and sad.

>>60783514
It was a controversial decision and devuan was a fork released without systemd.

>>60783532
glad b/c nothing broke, sad b/c still on arch

>>60783545
Here's a (You), don't spend it all at once.

Even my friend was teasing me about using Arch the other day, and he's using a cracked copy of Windows 7 for RMS's sake!

>>60783368
A DE is just a collection of programs including a WM. If you use for example i3 with some panel you're just assembling your own DE.

What's wrong with Arch? Why are people teasing Arch users?

How do I move all files with *example*' in the name but ignoring case to another folder using te terminal?

>>60783607
systemd

read the post chain above starting with >>60781962

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terminal anon from earlier can anybody tell me why this command does not work?

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How can I convert this to one of those "Modeline" xorg strings?

>>60783613
Try this:

find . -iregex '.*example.*' -exec 'mv {} ~/memes/' \;

>>60783613
mv somedir/*[Ee][Xx][Aa][Mm][Pp][Ll][Ee]* otherdir/

>>60783684
>>60783641
how much of a time difference between these two?

>>60783613
Just enable "nocaseglob" (man bash) and the actions are case-insensitive.

mv *example* somewhere/

I have a fragile ego and am tired of someone always making fun of my distro/de. I've switched many times but someone always has some smart comment.

So what is the distro/de that will guarantee respect from /g/?

>>60783786
The one the other guy is using.

How do I stop Chromium/Chrome from having annoying KDE wallet popups? Looked in my account details section in system settings and there's nothing there.

>>60783786
GuixSD

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>>60783786

>>60783786
Windows XP

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>>60783786

>>60783896
>friendly thread

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>>60783786
Devuan GNU+Linux.

>>60783929
Well that's the best advice considering there will always be a memelord to flame any Linux distro

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>>60784036
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>60783786
Install Kali, that'll show 'em.

Thinking of switching to either Parabola, GuixSD, or Void. Opinions on those?

everytime I see /fglt/ I think /fagglet/

can't be the only one

>>60784103
LOL!

>>60784101
I've been using void for about two months. It's pretty good

>>60784103
This post made me laughing out loud. In fact, I am actually rolling on the floor while laughing in this very second.

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>>60783786
That's actually never going to happen. There's always gonna be someone. I actually don't know if you're bullshitting or not, but you should know this.

>>60784103
Friendly and glorious GNU+Linux elite thread.

>>60783786
Bedrock, because it uses every distro.

>>60783786
I vow to shittalk every distro someone uses so that you will never feel safe using whatever you pick

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>>60783165

>>60783140
BunsenLabs, community continuation of #!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HenatjGizwY

>>60784530
Had no idea that Jaakko "1svaffel" Järvinen was still making videos. Thought of the same thing he pointed out when I checked humble bundle earlier today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPY1IwAcWD8 "If anime characters were real, I would fuck them.".

I switched to Debian and I like it like it except for one issue. I'm having trouble getting gaming related software. Doomsday is supposed to be in the repo but I can't find and install it. The openxcom package for Jesse isn't installing on Stretch. will things improve with Stretch's release next week or should I consider switching to Arch?
Gaming is the only intensive thing I use my computer for. [spoiler]my '''work''' can be done on a toaster.[/spoiler]

>>60783786
I've never seen anyone on /g/ insulted for using Gentoo. Good luck if you want to use it though.

Trying to install R9 290x drivers on xubuntu. I follow AMD's instructions on installing AMD GPU PRO drivers but after restart I get stuck on the "/dev...: clean..." screen. I can get in if I go through recovery mode then just resume regular boot. Currently I've uninstalled drivers and am just running without.
Do I even need drivers? Using the PC to mine for fun.

>>60783607
People just have different opinions and here you get teased no matter what, don't bother with any of it.

>>60782833
nemoj biti debil

>>60782291
noice

>>60778380
That's just babies first GuixSD

>>60785025
How? Legit sparked my interest.

>>60783786
LFS

>>60784733
>I've never seen anyone on /g/ insulted for using Gentoo. Good luck if you want to use it though.
Gentoo isn't any harder to use than Arch
Probably even easier because it has a concept of stable packages

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>>60783786
Source Mage GNU/Linux

argh, what the fuck
anyone know of any good resources for figuring out mdadm problems?
things are just acting too strangely for me to pinpoint what the fuck it's problem is
like, it's a 4 disk raid5 of hdds, same type.
it used to run just fine, not far under the speed of 3 spindles, now it's barely keeping up with the speed of a single spindle
weird stuff is happening, such as;
disk '1's utilization tops out well before the others during /reads/, while disk '3's utilization tops out soonest during /writes/
the average request size for disk '1' is on average half that of the other disks, despite the fact they should all have the same settings

>>60785185
install source mage

>>60785129
If you have no idea what GuixSD is then I would suggest you look into that first.

Then read this
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/news/running-system-services-in-containers.html

To save you time though I'm not sure they are 100% effective containers, but from the looks of it they seem pretty damn good, and take advantage of a feature of Linux that goes fairly unused (namespaces).

>>60785228
containers are not the main goal of appimages and I was thinking in something else when read your other post, but damn guixsd's feature is impressive

>>60785228
>namespaces
debian and arch don't enable user namespaces in the default kernel (most distros don't probably)
there were/are some concerns https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36969
but the feature has been in the kernel for so long, I don't know why the distro maintainers still consider it unsafe

>>60778259
The migration steps don't work. https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:migration_from_arch_gnu_linux when I run sudo pacman -U https://hyperbola.info/packages/core/any/hyperbola-keyring/download/ i get this error:

failed retrieving file 'alpmtmp.Jj3Y8s' from www.hyperbola.info : Failed to connect to repo.hyperbola.info port 50000: Connection timed out warning: failed to download https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/core/any/hyperbola-keyring/download/ error: 'https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/core/any/hyperbola-keyring/download/': download


Is there anything I can do to fix this?

>>60783912
is this good?

>>60785158
Sounds nice but I'm not going to use something that takes a whole week to install. Unless you're saying there's a easy way to install Gentoo.

>>60783912
>>60785025
>>60785228
But can I compile from source and use flags?

>>60785228
Because containers have very little practical use outside of specific server configurations

>>60785415
I haven't used it, but you can definitely compile from source. In fact that's basically the standard.

The thing is though, if you read about these distros like GuixSD and NixOS, because of the way they work something compiled on 2 different machines which results in the same hash should be "bit-identical", so they also offer binary downloads for that reason. If their server has a file with the same hash that you want then you can just download it and the result should be the exact same.

In fact I read that GuixSD even offers something called a "challenge" where you can literally challenge the compiled binary to see if it results in the exact binary you get when you compile it, which it should.

>>60785415
>>60785463
Oh, and as for USE flags

They don't have USE flags, but I suspect they might still offer ways for you to achieve similar results (probably not nearly as convenient as Gentoo though). I need to look more into it though.

>>60785463
>>60785476
not having USE flags is pretty much the reason why even if you compile on two machines you'd still end up with the same hash

it better have USE flags in the near future

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Top:
Dist - Gentoo with systemd
DE - Plasma 5
Shell - Fish
Browser - Firefox
Editor - Vim
IDE - CLion ( implying other langs are obsolete )
Player - VLC

>>60785501
Well the reason I said they might have something similar is (and take this with a HUGE grain of salt) I think I read something a while back that suggested it might be possible to inform the package manager of changes to the source code of packages you want.

I would imagine that those changes would be a part of how the hash is generated, so someone not using those changes would get a different hash.

>>60785576
>Gentoo with systemd
Stopped reading there
your post is a fuck

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>>60785576
>Gentoo with systemd

>>60785399
Both arch & gentoo take maybe an hour tops to install if you know what you're doing, though with gentoo you'll have to add build times which depend on your hardware

The program I'm compiling is having real trouble with std::function<stuff>, saying that the meme arrow should have a ( before it.

My G++ is at version 5.something, but ubuntu says its the latest version.

What is my next move? Do I find a way to upgrade G++ or is there something else breaking this?

>>60785699
>What is my next move?
Posting actual program you're trying to compile and copy-pasting compiler error instead of memening awkwardly like a retard
Also checking build requirements in the build instructions

>>60785739
Its my own game I'm making, it's working on Windows but I'm trying to compile it on my laptop.

error: expected ‘)’ before ‘<’ token
FunctionPair(std::function<void()> kd, std::function<void()> kr)

sorry for memeing

>>60785781
Try adding -std=c++11 to compiler arguments

>>60785838
Should have mentioned I'm trying that already. Here is my premake file:
https://pastebin.com/Uh6YWau9

All of the errors listed are to do with std::function, I have included <functional> where needed, is that all that's necessary?

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>>60785185
alright, i think i've figured most of it out
1. don't disable NCQ, it seems to help, despite what most of the guides say
2. don't use an IO scheduler (set to "none"), i think it's the recent changes in the schedulers in the latest kernel that was causing the main problem

>>60785879
>All of the errors listed are to do with std::function, I have included <functional> where needed, is that all that's necessary?
Yeah, pretty much

I haven't used premake but you can try generating verbose makefile, look into generated files or otherwise check if: 1) std argument is actually passed 2) compiler which takes it actually supports it

Ubuntu might have multiple gcc versions installed where you'll have older version called through g++ and gcc5 will be called g++5 or something

>>60785781
iirc c++17 changed a bunch of stuff for std::function and a lot of c++17 features are only available with g++ 7.x. Maybe thats your problem

>>60786084
Okay, I'll have a look at trying to install g++ 7.x on Ubuntu, thanks!

>>60786079
Thanks for the tips, I'll bear this in mind! :)

>>60786108
If you're not feeling shy, you can just put up the whole project on github or just tar.gz it and upload somewhere, but I can't promise that I'll look into that today, plus I don't really have Ubuntu so it might build for me but still won't build on Ubuntu

>>60786134
if you have discord you can add me at Crysikrend#9746, and if I struggle tonight maybe we could talk another night. Even if I succeed, it'd be nice to connect with someone else as I'm still learning the ins and outs of linux and the toolchain!

Can I get some recommendations for a good desktop computer for heavy Gentoo compiling?

>>60786229
Ryzen 1700 (or it's higher binned versions) and 16gb of fast RAM (2600-3000+), with SSD would be pretty much ideal and not terrible expensive. You will need a graphics card but what kind and price category depends on what you will be using it for. If you need moar power wait for Threadripper. Ask /pcbg/ if you need more info.

>>60786108
>>60786084
>>60786079

Okay, std::function is now fine after upgrading to 6 (couldn't seem to get 7, but this is nice for now?)

I now have a new error talking about temportary fpermissives. Now I can kind of understand what the error is, the question is, why does my windows version not throw this up as an error?
Basically, the code is to return the address of a default-made texture / image / whatever(there's a few). This will only be called if the program is breaking (as in, something isn't right) so nullptr would probably be what I need to return nullptr. However, why is this a problem here but not in VS? Just curious :)

Core/ResourceManagers/ResourceManager.cpp: In static member function ‘static sf::Image* ResourceManager::getImage(const string&)’:
Core/ResourceManagers/ResourceManager.cpp:17:22: error: taking address of temporary [-fpermissive]
return &sf::Image();

>>60786696
Ignore this, I fixed it.

Now I'm trying to include lua, is there a way to know what library I need to include? For instance, how do I know that to include the graphics library for SFML, its SFML-Graphics ? So, to include lua.hpp, what exactly is it? As just lua5.1 isn't working and it still cannot find it

>>60783579
Wrong, if I were to install a bunch of programs meant for usage with one another that all had a GUI and covered all the most common tasks someone might do at their pc and packaged them together under a certain name, that would be a DE. i3 is only a WM packaged with a few others (i3-status, i3-bar etc) meant for usage with it that don't have a GUI and don't cover the most common tasks like providing a shell, terminal emulation, a calculator, a text editor etc. i3 is not a DE and i3 is not distributed as part of any DE.

Hi all, just had a major fuckup and need urgent help.

On Void, using i3-gaps, all text is displaying as an empty square. I can't start my terminal (st), and I can't exit i3 once it's started. Just did an update of all packages and I have no idea what broke. I've tried using a different font in the config file, and I feel like maybe Pango broke for me somehow, but I really have no idea.

Any ideas? Thank you to anyone who helps.

>>60788281
I've installed xterm, and now I seem to be able to start a terminal.

I previously used a bindsym to actually call the st command to start st (wanted a font without reconfiguring source), but now using sensible-terminal to start xterm I can at least get sometthing going. Fonts are working in xterm, just not in i3-status or in window titles

>>60788281
>>60788308
What is the exact font string specified in your i3 config file? Post it here, and also what you get when you take that font name and run:
fc-match <font>

What do I need to do, read or learn to know GNU/Linux inside and out?

>>60788455
Ended up getting it all working. Don't know what was happening, but somehow my pixbuf loader module file permissions got changed, and DejaVu somehow got uninstalled on top of that.

>>60788553
>DejaVu
It's always DejaVu. Every time something goes wrong with fonts.
DejaVu

>>60788640
Ah, something's now gone fucky with Firefox. Can't get it to display fonts on any page apart from Facebook unless I go to the settings and make sure pages can't choose their own fonts. I've checked the mappings of serif and sans-serif on fc-match, and they seem to be working properly.

>>60785613

>he thinks the only reason to use gentoo is no systemd
Kill yourself, you meme spouting idiot.

>>60788795
Maybe as root run
fc-cache -fv

I just installed Debian 9 and its fucking awesome.
>ultra fucking
>awesome in the butt
it even has arc-theme in the repos.

I have a ssh access to a redhat machine.
Can I "put" a text browser like lynx on it without installing it? (I'm not the machine admin)
(Obviously it'd work only it the machine already satisfies all the dependencies)

>>60789315
If you have gcc you can compile everything.

>>60782248
>>60782196
>>60782119

if systemd is good enough for Debian, it's good enough for me.

I would trust that community with my life desu

>>60789368
You mean trust people who introduced a backdoor into OpenSSH?

>>60789355
I have gcc, I just have to upload the source there and compile it then?

>>60789315
just build a generic and static binary and run that on it

>>60789397
Yes. Or try to uplpad binaries and all the needed dependencies.

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I'll never understand why /g/ recommends gentoo to newbs...

Linux Mint for newbs and moms.

>>60785699
Rust doesn't have this problem :^)

>>60789481
/g/ will recommend gentoo for everything.

>>60789368
>if systemd is good enough for Debian, it's good enough for me.
Then it isn't, because it isn't. The community voted chiefly against it, and then split over its adoption and started a forked OS.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=576562#p576502

what is the best video player for ubuntu I am using VLC right now but I am wondering if there is something better ?

I'm playing a bit with opengl on manjaro.
why does my program run slower when I use optirun? shouldn't it run faster?

tar -xvf ~/Downloads/"$name"-"$version".tar.* -C ~/Downloads/."$name"-"$version"/

how to use tar inside a script successfully

>>60789481
BRRRRRRRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP mmMMM so pungent my dear

>>60789728
mpv

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Perl updated on my Arch PC and now everything is broken. urxvt, Chromium, and even damn CPAN throw the same error:

ListUtil.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got handshake key 0xdb80080, needed 0xde00080)

I tried reinstalling every Perl package, it didn't help.
What do? Pls help, I've been trying to fix this for hours.

>>60790003
has anyone else reported the same issue?
does installing the previous version werk?

>>60790013
>has anyone else reported the same issue?
There have been some reports, but no real fixes. Some people "rebuild" stuff and everything fixes the problem for the. I have no idea what to rebuild because I haven't built anything with Perl myself.

>does installing the previous version werk?
Barely. It gets CPAN working (which doesn't help much, because I have no idea how to use it. i've only used it once two weeks ago to install twirssi's dependencies, which didn't break anything at the time).
But it's not like using an old version is a solution. Everything depends on Perl and I can't live with an old version for too long.

>>60790072
hmm, looking into it, it's talking about rebuilding any self-compiled stuff that uses perl, like from the AUR

>>60790101
>>60790072
also look at
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2014-June/026359.html

>>60790101
I don't have anything perl-related from AUR. The only perl things I have installed are extensions for urxvt I installed years ago.

>>60790110
I ran this thing several times, it output some stuff. But I can't do anything with it because CPAN depends on one of the broken modules (List::Util).
If I force install the previous perl and the reinstall broken modules, then nothing changes, shit is still broken.
But I'll try this all again just to make sure.

>>60790110
>>60790200
Yep. Force installed previous perl, ran the script, made CPAN reinstall all the modules, updated Perl again, CPAN stopped working, urxvt starts without Perl interpreter.

Perl was a mistake.

>>60790200
>If I force install the previous perl and the reinstall broken modules
that won't work, as it'll just be built against the old one

>>60790288
try removing all your perl related stuff, updating perl, then reinstalling your perl related stuff, so it can all be built against the new one

Is all my personal data and configurations in the Home directory?

Can I just backup that folder, and paste it into a similar (or even different) distro and expect my shit to be as it was?

>>60790312
yes, yes

>>60790299
>try removing all your perl related stuff
nuked

/usr/lib/perl5

, installed all perl-related packages back, everything appears to be working well. thanks, anon.

don't let your friends use perl. please sign my petition to remove perl from all computers.

>>60790336
signed ;)

how to find . '*.rtf' and chmod -x the results?
find output is something like
./Documents/something
./Documents/another thing

what antivirus do you use?

>>60790336
i try to avoid things that used their own packaging system. cpan, pip, npm, etc
they just cause problems, always use your system package manager if you need to install an extention/module/whatever for these systems

>>60790375

find ~/Documents -iname "*.rtf" -exec echo chmod -x "{}" \;

(remove echo if you're happy with running what is printed)

>>60790375
Look into the -exec flag of find. It allows you to run actions on the individual results or all results at once.

find . -exec echo {} \+
Will run echo for all results. For your task interesting:
find . -exec echo {} \;
Will run echo for each result.

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>>60790378

>>60790378
/boot/vmlinuz

>>60790418
be sure to quote {} so it can handle paths with spaces
otherwise things like "./some thing/file.rtf" becomes;
./some
thing/file.rtf

>>60790378
Viruses don't exists. Antivirus software was made so normies feel better in their Windows hell.

>>60790436
I usually quote everything after -exec, for example:
find ~/Documents -iname "*.rtf" -exec "echo chmod -x {}" \;
Is this good enough?

>>60790378
For GNU/Linux, Common Sense 2017 is enough since malicious things in a program would be patched away before it even hits the distros repos. Common Sense also includes not using proprietary software.

For Windows malware, there is clamav, which can check for known malware, but it like every other Antivirus program, it doesn't guarantee anything and woun't find 0days. That said, Nonfree Windows software belongs into a VM anyway.

>>60790462
hmm, did a couple tests and it seems we're both wrong
doing this;

"touch {}"

didn't work at all
and doing this (not quotes at all);

touch {}

worked as if the argument was quoted
in most cases you need to quote things to handle spaces unless you really are wanting to work on each part separately, but not in this case, it seems

>>60790436
{} is automatically quoted

>>60790003
i had no update for perl today. how long has it been since your last update?

>>60779190
murderfs is okay, you may experiment with it.

Stay away from btrfs, It shits itself randomly, see people on #btrfs.

Try zfs, it's nice.

>>60790616
this isn't a broken package or bug, just normal behaviour when doing a major update with out-of-main-repo, non-pure-perl modules installed
if it was something in the main repos that was broken with the new perl, then it'd be an issue, but otherwise it's out of arch's hands

>>60779190
>btrfs
very slow progress, works mostly, wouldn't really recommend it for much more than non-critical small storage, as unfortunate as that is
>reiser4
haven't heard anything about it in ages, is it even still maintained?

in related news, anyone looking forward to seeing what happens with bcachefs?
has many of the qualities that made btrfs so attractive, except it got a usable state much faster, and is a transmogrification of the solid base that is bcache
about as accessible as reiser4 right now though, as it's not mainline

>uni shuts down FTP access to network
>declines using SFTP or SSH
>forced to use WebDAV
>install cadaver
>can look at directory contents
>try to download own files
>404 error
>keeps happening, no way to get my files
>get lots of errors when closing cadaver, ending in Segmentation fault
Fuck this gay protocol and program.

lel https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/be-careful-celebrating-googles-new-ad-blocker-heres-whats-really-going-on/

why is modern tech 99% about trolling ;_;

>>60790741
>moving from FTP to WebDAV
kind of an odd choice
are the admins macfags or something?

>>60790779
Windows as far as I know. With ftp from what I hear they had security issues. Complete BS IMO, just use ssh to tunnel the ftp connection and you're good.

>>60790785
>With ftp from what I hear they had security issues.
they could have just done ftps (not to be confused with sftp)

>>60790312
Yes, I've done it many times, remember to backup your hidden files too, they start with dots.

>>60787219
>Now I'm trying to include lua, is there a way to know what library I need to include? For instance, how do I know that to include the graphics library for SFML, its SFML-Graphics ? So, to include lua.hpp, what exactly is it? As just lua5.1 isn't working and it still cannot find it
You usually have to include the header(s) according to official manual but you also may need to set up include directories correctly to be able to do so
E.g. include "lua.h" or "lua.hpp" and pass -I/usr/include/lua5.2 to compiler if you have lua 5.2 installed
I haven't used premake, but it most likely has some integration with pkg-config, which automatically gives you compiler arguments depending on your dependent libraries

>>60790378
Antivirus software has been obsolete as class for years now

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>"So I heard you're good with computers"
>sit down
>pc boots
>it's windows
>feel like a toddler
I've forgotten how to use Windows. How to git gut?

>>60790839
Your brain is now clean from dirt.
Don't make your brain dirty again.

>>60790839
just bang your head on a nearby wall until it starts to make sense again

>>60790839
Always carry a zip disquette with a GNU/Linux live system with you.

>>60790931
not him but, which does /fglt/ recommend?

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I love Mint.
Made this old bad boy run like new 1000 dollar MacBook. Im new to LInux OS and still figuring out basic but I have a feeling my new laptop will get OS upgrade any day now.

>>60790957
systemrescuecd

>>60790970
Welcome ~.

Also https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html

New thread: >>60791006

>>60790931
>zip disquette
wat

>>60790970
>new $1000 macbook
>i5 M430
I hope the build quality is worth it

case "$1" in
    *.docx)
        docx2txt.sh "$1"
        /bin/leafpad "${1%.*}".txt &
    ;;
esac

how to make it work as

case "$1" in
    *.docx)
        cp "$1" /tmp/
        docx2txt.sh /tmp/"$1"
        /bin/leafpad /tmp/"${1%.*}".txt &
    ;;
esac

?

I need help, the network hardware drivers for my dell laptop doesn't contain .inf files, what do?

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Anyone know how to get rid of the dotted lines in xfce?

>>60792978
It's determined by your theme. Either find a theme without or go dive into your themes config fies and find out how to change it.

>>60792978
Jeesus, buy a REAL computer - apple mac.

>>60793085
How do you know he's not using a mac?
Just a goose?