/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

I like the pic you chose.

>>60777990
thinkpad without OS when?

>>60778136
At least the German student offers at https://www.campuspoint.de/ are partially being sold without OS.

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I have a very old VAIO laptop (pic related, came with vista about 11 years ago i think) and after several years using it i think it's time to upgrade to something better, it can barely handle 3d rendering anymore

i do not have much money to invest on a new laptop and i am considering a refurbished thinkpad

which model would you suggest with these specs:

- cpu faster than 2.26GHz
- at least 8gb, ideally 16gb but would that even be possible?
- 13"
- less than 500$

would this even be possible?
from what i understand by reading the wikis, the x200 model would be the only sub-15" option, is that correct? pity it's fucking expensive

t. clueless and poor

>>60778247
What's your use-case? Btw CPU clock speeds don't really matter anymore since about 2008 or something.

>>60778247
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RB5MB2867

I have a W700 with 3 GB ram on a 64bit duocore system (ubuntu gnome), how much more ram can i install on it? I also heard ram is really expensive right now, should I wait? Thanks in advance!

>>60778338
That's a 14" laptop.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA95Z5NS1697

>>60778404
Yeah 1" doesn't really make that much of a difference, it's still better than the piece of shit you posted.

>>60778247
X230

>>60778422
Better in not meeting the requirements? Or better in worse trackpad and keyboard?

>>60778271
I normally use my laptop to sustain myself, freelancing in these fields:
- programming, usually scripted frontend faggotry (using vim or sublime text)
- running a lamp server for testing
- working with vector and bitmap images for print (using photoshop, illustrator, indesign)
- editing videos (aftereffects and premiere)
- making music (fl studio)
- 3d rendering (usually blender, other programs are way too heavy)
- live vjing (resolume)

It's very clear to me that such tasks, especially 3d, should be done on a well perfoming desktop; but I travel often on foot or bike and stealth camp around 3/4 of the yea, so i need something portable; 13" would be ideal compromise between retardedly small and too big to fit in my backpack / bike bags (14" hardly fit during colder months because of all the extra bullshit i have to carry with me)

It's also very clear to me that it would be better to switch to FOSS software and hardware, and where I can i stick to software that interjects for a moment.

> Btw CPU clock speeds don't really matter anymore
ah thanks!

>>60778338
>>60778271
thank you very much, i assume that the 1.9GHz CPU is faster than the 2.26GHz i have is that correct?

>>60776470
>any reason why an X260 is not a good idea?
>I can get a new one for like US$630, while the X220, X230, all of them used, are around US$330

My question stands

>>60778446
Better in every conceivable way minus the non important 1" difference in screen size. I personally offended you would even suggest someone buy a *40 series thinking.

Retro when

>>60778465
Ok sure *50 and newer have the better touchpad keys again, but apart from that Thinkpad keyboards are still better than any Dell imo.

>>60778487
>Thinkpad keyboards are still better than any Dell imo.
You're probably right. I just had such a bad experience with the *40 series touchpads that they should never be recommended.

>>60778456

I wanted something portable with good battery life and almost got an X260 myself from the lenovo outlet. I found cheap t440s with a 1080p screen / swapped trackpad and got that instead.

If price isn't a concern, I think the main advantage of the x230 is that it can be corebooted. Libreboot will be available by next year too, supposedly.

>>60778475
Never ever

>>60778451
>thank you very much, i assume that the 1.9GHz CPU is faster than the 2.26GHz i have is that correct?

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4300U

>>60778456
all of the other specs are kind of important too

if the X260 has a 1080p screen, 16gb RAM, and a 500gb SSD then yeah that would be a much better deal than an X230 with 4gb ram missing the hard drive

and vise versa...

>>60778456
My opinion: if you're actually using your mobile computer as a mobile mobile computer at uni, work or elsewhere absolutely get the newer models. The battery life is just so worth it.

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>>60778523
>http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4300U
most helpful and great site, will come in useful when comparing shit

have a hot /g/ retrobabe

Hey, wich eGPU should i get for a t420? I don't want to spend too much, and i think the newer ones would be bottlenecked aniway.

>>60778558
X220 and X230 can get up to 12 hours with the extended battery

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Is terraria playable on x220?

>>60778599
>is terraria playable on intel hd 3000

google it

>>60778575
im using gtx 1070 amp

>>60778599
I downloaded it yesterday, but still didn't ran it.
Warframe runs at 30-50 fps here though, i know terraria can be a bit demanding on large maps, but i don't see how it wouldn't run it.

>>60778655
Just to be sure, the egpu will only work in an external monitor, right?

Could you explain to me your setup? Including power adaptors and everything.

I could see myself getting a gtx1050 maybe, but not an 1070.

If it says no optical drive does that mean it was taken out and there is now just empty space. Or did it not have it in the first place.
https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA5HA45Z6592

>>60778805

That model doesn't have an optical drive.
They probably put it in the name because at the time that model was released, the concept of an ultrabook with no optical drive was still new.

It wouldn't have been out of the question for someone to buy a laptop having mistakenly assumed that any computer would obviously have an optical drive.

Thinkpad t520 vs t530

>>60778957
Neither, 15" is too old fashioned and heavy.

>>60778981
not an issue the issue is price

>>60778989
are the spec differences worth the price to you? it's subjective

>>60779016
well its 30 dollar difference but I get A qaud core i7 and usb 3

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i got this T60 running both pfsense and freenas on VMs , pfsense have his own dedicated 2 lan to usb adapters and soon getting a usb 3 express card in order to add an external hard drive to the freenas vm
any other experimental stuff i can do with it?
>inb4 potato quality

https://youtu.be/ycKzTDnTYTQ

I found an x230 for 192 dollars
Has i5 3rd gen 2600mhz
4gb ram expandable up to 16
320 gb hdd
In great condition
Is this a good price

>>60779027
Honestly if you're doing it for i7 and usb 3, I wouldn't. Some low percentage improvement in some benchmark is not worth it... and for usb, I can't remember the last time I transferred data via usb, so that's the only usecase usb 3 matters right? I don't charge my phone via laptop.

>>60779120
battery? condition of the battery?

seems like a good price yeah

but you'll NEED to get an SSD, also depending on your uses might want to upgrade to 8gb RAM

and if the battery is shite and you want battery life then it's another $60-70

don't nickel and dime yourself

>>60779120
that's a decent price yes

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>>60779141
>quad-core ivy bridge i7
>small low percentage benchmark improve over dual-core sandy bridge i5

>>60779155
Original battery doesn't say condition. Just says tested to hold a charge. They are a Microsoft certified refurbished if that counts for anything

>>60779141
The I7 is ehhh but the usb 3 The only reason is the external I I use for backups is usb3

How big of a difference is grade a to grade b

>>60779306
depends on the reseller, usually they define what their 'grades' mean

(it's pretty irrelevant)

>>60779306

depends on the person selling it.
Generally though, Grade A is going to appear to be brand new, while Grade B means there might be subtle signs that it was used (tiny scratches, etc) but no significant wear n tear.

hey guys i found a x230 for 320$ and has:
an i5 3380M
8gb ram
128gb ssd
it has the battery and the notebook cover
and it comes with a dock station and the original charger

>>60778456
Where can you get a new X260 for $630?

Is the wifi switch on x201 actually a hardware switch?

>>60779580
yes, that is kind of the point

I should probably get a T440p for $170, right? Being able to drop in a FHD panel feels kinda nice since I won't be doing that in my X220 any time soon..

My shitty HP spectre laptop recently broke. Started looking for Thinkpads, found a T440p for 170$, worth it?

>>60779567
in Chile

>>60779587
Yes I know, but plenty of laptops have software switches nowadays. Thanks anyway, just making sure.

>>60779744
>spectre
aren't those the new hip and cool that cost over 1 grand and it already broke?

I have a Latitude E6410 but I can't find any working WiFi drivers. The network card is foxconn
Anyone know where I can get Dru era for it? It seems to be an aftermarket lan card

>>60778564
Get out of here CPUBoss shill. CPUBoss is total cancer.

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>mfw waiting for my P51 in the mail
It says it's coming tomorrow!

>>60779340
So then it probably won't be worth spending an extra 20 dollars to get an a condition one

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How safe is it to handle a thinkpad like a tablet?
Assuming the HDD have been replaced with SSD or booting from USB flash drive.

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how to remove this shit?

think it was done by one of those paint pens

would a mr clean magic eraser work?

soap and water is kind of out of the question

The T430 only has 2 usb 3.0 connections, but intels data on the chipset says it supports up to 4 and something like 10 usb 2.0 ports.

Intels schematics also mention that the usb lines do not need any resistors, it seems to be a straight trace to the port.

It'd be neat to add some usb 3.0 ports, but I doubt those traces are exposed ;(

>>60780080
I've always manhandled them by the battery, never had any issues

>>60780086

probably best to paint over it

I've been thinking about picking up a can of rubberized paint for various uses, and I've thought about painting my power brick with it

>>60779962
Havet hade it for 1,5 years.
The display broke after a few months and the charger after a year. Have used a non brand charger since then now it won't charge at all. Well at least I can salvage the m.2 ssd and AC WiFi card

>>60779845
I'm from Costa Rica and if I found a new x260 for that price I'd buy it immediately

>>60780086
rough side of a sponge

>>60779998
Google PCI vendor database

>>60780086
Isopropyl alcohol, failing that, windex.

>>60780114
I was thinking of getting x220 or x220t, and have it as "beat up" laptop to use it when traveling and since I mostly likely will be lending it to other people to use.
I know the SSD will get rid of HDD mechanical failure because of movement.

But what about CPU fan?
Should it be fine as long as the vents are not blocked?

>>60780251
cpu fans are fine, screen hinges are fine

although the X220 and X230 are prone to cracking the corners of the palmrest

and the tablets have these little rubber screen holder things on the sides of the keyboard bezel that are also prone to snapping off, doesn't really affect functionality though

>>60780086
>not wanting people to think your a tech specialist
Wew lad

>>60780086
magic eraser couldn't hurt
try rubbing alcohol first
where did you find an ex-BHS laptop?

what does tpg think of the t530 keyboard?

>>60780394
It's fine unless you've gotten used to the older style..

Does the T420 uses the same RAM sticks as the X220?
Or is there limit to the clock speed?

My T41p is having some GPU issues so until the heat gun arrives, I put a coin inbetween the heatsink and the keyboard to give it a little push.

>>60780391
came with thinkpad bought from this seller

http://www.ebay.com/usr/orshke2015

he's got a few cheap T430's for sale right now

>>60780436
Check thinkwiki

>>60780436
yes the chipsets are the same

>>60780471
It says DDR3.
I thought you need SODIMM for the T420?

>>60780549
You do, would be pretty stupid to fit full size sticks in there, don't you think?

>>60780549
they are 204-pin SODIMM DDR3 modules

>>60780461
ah BHS was a British department store so i thought you got it from the UK

>>60780578
>>60780580
What if I found DDR2 SODIMM RAM chips?

>>60780601
Will not fit, you need DDR3

>>60780601
you'll have a hard time fitting it in the ram slot

>>60780633
And if I use sticks of different clock speed it would run as the slowest one?

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X220 or X220t?
I found both for the same price with the same specs.

>>60778346
4GB per slot. I don't think DDR3 is going to get any cheaper in the foreseeable future since DDR4 has replaced it, but 4GB modules shouldn't be too expensive yet. Certainly nowhere near as bad as 4GB DDR2 modules.

Ohh hell yeah the guy thats selling the t530 I got him to go down 30 dollars

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>>60777990
do you use cooling pads on your Thinkpads and does it help with temps?

>>60780704
Why did RAM get so expensive?

>>60780699
I have both and I only ever use my X220, I did put an IPS panel in it though which you won't have to do on the tablet version.

>>60780740
I use another Thinkpad underneath my W520. It works.

>>60780752
As I said, DDR4 replaced DDR3, so DDR3 is out of production and will only go up in price from here on out.

>>60780699
also have an X230 and an X220t

don't get the tablet unless you're a drawfag

if you're an aspiring drawfag, also don't get the tablet

>>60780762
>only ever use my X220
Any particular reason?

>>60780861
Less bulky and doesn't feel as flimsy with the single hinge. But mostly because I don't need a tablet, and even if i did it's not accurate enough to feel useable IMO..

>>60780861
the tablets are fatter and have smaller batteries and screen wobbles

Are there any thinkpads that don't look an ugly black brick?

>>60781312
nothin ugly about black bricks

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So how do you actually use the fingerprint reader? I have a T520, w7, the driver is properly installed, I tried to see how its used and it sends me to the manufacturer website AuthenTec that seems to be nothing but Google ads.

>>60781434
Clean install btw so I dont have any of Lenovos Software, it shouldnt be needed for this I figure.

>>60781503
yes you need the thinkvantage fingerprint software

also recommend installing lenovo's power manager

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>>60781312
The newest gen comes in faggot silver if that's what you're into.

Finally fixed my T430 palmrest. I figured out why it kept breaking. I kept trying to "snap" the little tabs into place like a fucking moron, after putting the keyboard in.

But you can slide it in before you fully insert the palmrest itself and then it doesn't break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V74pSO8of4M

The dude who made this video had the same issue, so be careful and don't end up with a retarded palmrest if you do the swap.

>>60781312
if you are a highschool girl that loves to tell everyone about her shit on facebook, this is not the laptop you are looking for

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>>60781931
picture of the massive bulge when you fuck it up

>>60781661
Oh I see

>https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g1f814ww.txt
>SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
>- Latest version of the BIOS
I havent updated since I got it in 2012, if it works don't change it is what I say. Does it really matter?

>>60782007
you should keep everything up to date

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Theoretically, what would the specs of a maxed out x220 look like? Looking to get one provided the ceiling isn't too low.

>>60781968
owo what's this

>>60782252
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220

all available OEM factory options

you can stick bigger mSATA SSD's in it and it can take 16GB RAM

>>60781931
>The dude who made this video had the same issue, so be careful and don't end up with a retarded palmrest if you do the swap.

You have to be retarded to want to do the swap in the first place so its no small wonder that you both couldn't assemble a laptop properly.

>>60782306
Ty Senpai

should i uninstall lenovo intel drivers and install the ones from intel directly? t470 (hd 620)

>>60782334
it's the same thing unless one version is newer, check the driver numbers

>>60782334
Use xf86-video-intel duh.

>>60782312
enjoy your chinklet

>>60780086
Alcohol and scrubby sponge first
If that fails, watered down acetone or 70% nail polish remover on a scrubby sponge, don't let it sit, it will melt plastic

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Just got a W520 in today. Standard specs (2720qm/1000m) with FHD screen for $300. In great condition, everything as advertised, except for pic related which I can thank FedEx for.

The seller has a very liberal return policy. What would you do? keep&fix or return?

>>60783088
damn thats dirty

>>60783088
they should have packaged it better

but since it's a W520 I'm assuming you don't plan on being very mobile with it

>>60783218
Im getting a t530 and im gonna be mobile as shit

>>60783218

actually it will be my daily carry. I don't have the metric system memorized so I mistakenly thought it weighed the same as my old macbook air...

>>60783242
you've made a mistake

>>60783326
Im not him but how so

I just got my hands on 3 X60 each with a dock for 10$ each, how'd I do /tpg/? How much do you think I can sell them for on eBay, and would it be worth it to libreboot them before selling? Also, I recently got a T420, I really like it upgrading from an x200 tablet.

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>>60783088
Partial refund?

>>60783380
He better have arms like this

>>60783573
I was hoping you where not gonna say weight because thats stupid reason to say somethings not portable im about to order a t530 as a daily

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>>60783573
>muh 1.4lbs

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>>60783598

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>>60783615
>/tpg/ can't carry more than macfags

>>60783603
I'm weak anon >w<

>>60783623
I'm not saying thats a lot im just putting the weight of the laptop im buying

>>60783573
I have arms like that (a bit less triceps I recon) and my daily driver is a X230, because fuck lugging a bigger computer around for extended periods of time.

>>60783623
6.6 lbs is pretty good for a 17" laptop

proper 17" workstations are like 8-9 lbs

>>60783656
Especially if you carry them in a shoulder bag. Killed our shoulders back in high school(or whatever you go when you're 16-19) when we all carried heavy laptops in shoulder laptop bags we got from school.

>>60783088
Ask for a partial refund. $50. He would be dumb not to take it as he'll have to cover return shipping for you, relist the item in a worse condition, and then pay for shipping again to the new owner on top of potential negative feedback.

>>60783696
my current piece of shit laptop 7 pounds and I use it for school if your not a 20 pound weakling its fine to have in a backpack

>>60779119
>tfw nobody cares

All thinkpads have pwm dimming except the ones from this generation. Someone should post the intelpwm fix permanently in the op.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha0QIwiYdQQ

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>>60780704
Thank you anon

>ThinkPad x230
>core-i5 3320m @ 2.6GHz
>8gb RAM
Is this worth $150?

>>60784007
if it's in good condition then yeah

>>60784017
Minor cosmetic, and a small crack in a side bezel
Nothing that I care about desu, my current computer is an absolute piece of garbage

>>60779580

speaking about wifi, why is there incredible latency on my x201 laptops? I replaced both with new intel 6300 wifi cards bought on ebay but both still have a lot of latency (running on windows 7, i know).

The wifi will be fine but all of a sudden just stop for 3-5 seconds, and this happens every minute. Happens on both my x201 laptops =(

>>60784322
what OS and drivers?

probably not a hardware problem

Laptop broke down. Need a good laptop asap. Should I fall for the thinkpad meme? Which one is best all-rounder?

>>60784494

>>60784512

>Which one is he best all-rounder
fully loaded t430

>>60784575
you mean pip bomb

>sister needs an upgrade from a T410
>point her to a W520 / 530
>she gets a fully equipped W530 in pristine condition with a 3820qm, 32 gb ram, fhd screen, pantone color sensor, 512 gb ssd, you know, all the jizz, for around 800€
>be proud and jealous as fuck

</blog>

Any of you own a Thinkpad Tablet 10? How's the digitizer? I want something for drawing in photoshop without spending more than 200€.

>>60784512
seconding a T430 would be a solid choice, outside of the shitty low quality screens

>>60784580
pipe*

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>>60777990

2 questions;

Any battery bands for the x220t that are reputable?
The OEM battery costs more than half of what I paid for it and I don't feel like spending that much for just a battery for such an old laptop.

Also how's the Thinkpad Yoga S1?
I've been looking for a replacement for my x220t, the 2520m is chugging hard in things like Photoshop and the 1366x768 display is pretty low res to do graphics stuff on now. I enjoy drawing and editing, and the digitized display is more appealing than a tad more powerful laptop with a standalone graphics tablet.
I know about the soldered on ram and such, but the 8gb model should be enough.

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Is 4 GB of RAM considered low for today usage?

>>60784706
internet browsers use about half of that just to browse

>>60784673
Green Cell.

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>>60784724
Should I get an extra 4 GB or 8 GB ram chip, or is using swap should be sufficient?

>>60784673
you can get OEM batteries from Amazon/Ebay, a lot cheaper than from Lenovo

just make sure the reseller accepts returns, just in case

>>60778689
If you want it to work on an internal monitor, you need to screw around but I can't remember the process right now.

But if you're okay with an external monitor, then all you need is the ExpressCard adapter for the eGPU, the monitor of your choice and a power brick made by Dell (forgot the model) or, if space isn't a concern, you can use just about any regular ATX PSU.

>>60784774
I'm on 4GB ram with 4GB swap, it's fine up until I get to 30 chrome tabs, then it starts swapping.
Previously, I had only 2GB with a 4GB swap and it would thrash my SSD constantly.
I would max out the ram if possible, 2x4GB is currently $53 and it's only going to skyrocket in the coming months now that the only 3 ram manufacturers are price fixing.

Just ordered my first thinkpad today. The X220. It should arrive next week. Im pretty excited bros.

>>60783770
I agree with this anon, I used to lug around a crappy 15.6", low-spec Toshiba daily, to high school, and on top of that I sometimes walked about 2 miles from the bus stop to my house because I lived in a place where there's direct buses ONLY at 6:00 AM.
I feel no big difference from the T530 nowadays.

And the way that piece of shit Toshiba laptop was built kinda reminded me of those Lanix desktops that were full tower but had these Intel Atom processors and motherboards inside.
Felt like I could play dodgeball with them.

>>60784007
Totally worth it. Wish that was the price for one in here...

Have been using T-series for 8 years, work laptops that I privateered after being issued new ones. T500 and T530 were awesome and are still alive, T450s would bluescreen every week and died after a year of use, T440s is more stable, but the trackpoint buttons are from hell.

>>60784845
$72+tax is a lot for a $200 laptop.
I was looking more at the <$50 range, because for more, I'd just start saving for a yoga or something since they're just a bit over $200 now.

>>60784395

windows 7 and I'm using the lenovo 6300 agn drivers provided by intel, which sounds good enough i thought.

maybe i have settings in windows 7 power control that's constantly causing the adapters to idle all of a sudden?

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What should I do after I got a new thinkpad?

What to look for in terms of spyware? Any bios settings I should be aware of?

Also gonna install windows 10 ltsb 2015. Should I go to the lenovo page and download all the drivers for windows 10 x64 beforehand?

>>60785706
you could start by not installing spyware, for one

>>60785706
>>60785726

yeah if you really want windows why not get windows 7 and then find an app that disables telemetry?

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Anyone know if eDP screen upgrades need a new cable? I know LVDS does.

I'm going from HD to FHD on my x240 once the display arrives. From what I've read it's a drop-in and no need to replace cable, but I'd like to confirm if I need to order one before it arrives.

thinkpads are great but anyone dislike how they're all using the intel botnet processors?

I replaced my t460 keyboard and now my fingerprint sensor takes forever to wake up when logging in from sleep

wtf

>>60785808
no, just you. I have no issues removing the botnet.

>>60781661
doesn't windows have native support for biometric devices though?

>>60785841

i thought all the thinkpads that work with libreboot are older core 2 duo ones rather than newer i5 or better?

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I swear 90% of the population on /tpg/ parrots garbage they read on the internet and doesn't actually do their own research.

What retard thought you needed to remove half the computer to swap out the trackpad on an x240?

I just did it (disassembled, waiting for new 3 button clickpad in mail), and you *literally don't even need to take apart A N Y T H I N G.*

The thing is glued on, you just gently pry it up and disconnect the cable and glue it back.

Jesus christ, how do some of you manage to fucking breathe?

>>60778957
T530
igpu and usb 3 are worth the price difference

>>60785874
You can remove ME without librebooting or corebooting. You just rip the the 8MB chip that holds the descriptor and me binary and strip it.

hello friends
first time poster
short time lurker (i really only come here for buying advice)

Budget: $800 AUD (can maybe stretch to 1k)
Location: Australia
Size: 14 inch or smaller
Performance: Battery doesn't need to be too long lasting because I'll probably be somewhere with a power point.
Other requirements: Running CAD, Scripting, Numerical Computing, Latex

I know i should probably wait till all the EOFY sales kick in, but just wondering what to go for, or if I should get a refurbished one.

Is the P71 worth it?

>>60785881
well I was gonna get the 520 for 250 and I got the seller for the t530 to go to 250 so theres only a shipping price difference now so I can afford

>>60780080
pretty safe

>>60780080
no moving parts, it's fine.

>>60780699
unless you see yourself using the touchscreen a lot, x220

>>60785889

Damn, I didn't know this. is there a guide for this?

>>60780740
cooling pads are memes
repaste and clean out the heatsink fins if youre having temp problems

>>60786002
Google the pinout for connecting a raspi to an SOIC8 ship.

use the program flashrom to dump the both of the flash chips (there's two chips usually).

concatenate the two dumps (8MB + 4MB).

use idftool to extract the firmwares.

use me-cleaner on the extracted ME firmware.

repack it, split the 12MB image.

flash the 8MB image back on.

????

PROFIT!!

>>60785873
Windows 10 does

but it does not work very well and I don't believe you can set it up to turn on laptop + log in via fingerprint swipe, I think it only stores the fingerprints in the OS/on the hard drive while Lenovo's software stores it in the BIOS chip, allowing you to also use it for BIOS supervisor password, etc.

>>60785931
depends

>>60786049
my sensor takes forever to wake up anyway so it's quicker to just type my password

is there any way to fix that?

>>60786077
what OS? what do your BIOS settings look like?

I've only used it on W7/W10 with Lenovo's software installed on a T420 and X230. I've always set it up to power on + log in, always just werked.

>>60786234
win7 professional
which bios settings specifically?

>>60786241
predesktop authentication must be enabled
security mode must be normal

>>60786290
I'll check, but I'm mainly referring to the sensor taking forever to turn on when I open the laptop from sleep

>>60786307
I never use sleep so I'm not sure

>>60786345
what happens when you close your laptop then?

>>60785837
My 460 trackpad is pissing me off. I'm seriously questioning the build quality.

>>60786361
I have it set to shut down

>>60786007
What's the normal operating temperature for most thinkpads, are they suppose to be somewhat warm?

>>60786421
10C

>>60786421
40-50C at idle

under load results will very depending on model, cpu, age, etc.

>>60785915
get a 51nb Thinkpad x62

>>60787169
>Other requirements: Running CAD, Scripting, Numerical Computing, Latex

You want him to get a ULV ???

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>>60785706
>what should I look for in terms of spyware?
>I'm installing windows 10
How fucking retarded are you?

My school has some t410s and I want one. What's the most efficient way of stealing one?

>inb4 give it back jamal

>>60787242
go into to the BIOS, disable Computrace and Intel AT (anti-theft)

if you can't get into the BIOS without a password and those things are enabled and you can't disable them then you are out of luck

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>>60785226
Does the RAM chip have to be the same capacity or clock speed?
While Firefox use up to 2GB, mpv on the other hand can use more RAM when caching videos.

>>60787508
wtf man get some more ram, they are cheap as fuck (buying used ofc)

In theory they should have the same speed and latency.

But I've found my motherboard adjusts them at the same speed if they are diferents sticks.

Also sauce on girl.

>>60785980
Not really, but I was thinking of taking advantage of the fold up screen to watch movies in bed,

>>60787553
What about capacity?
Do I need to use the same existing capacity or I can just add whatever size that I need?

>>60787614
whatever size

>>60787553
Is it a scam if 2x4GB sodimm crucial ram is $34 on ebay and the seller is from china?

there's also some 8GB ram listings for $10, and those are clearly scams

>>60787508
two sticks at different size and capacity will:
run at the speed of the slowest stick
run in a kind of emulated dual channel mode called "flex memory access" if the chip allows it (checked the i5-2520m for example and it's supported). a little slower than true dual channel but still much faster than single channel

>>60787702
nevermind I just bought from a domestic seller.

I also cancelled my amazon order 6 days later, they still haven't charged me yet

Is a x220 still usable for web browsing these days? I've been thinking about buying one for a second computer to try linux with, but I also want it to be actually useful as a computer. With many websites being so heavy these days, I'm a bit concerned if it will be fast enough to be usable.

>>60789262
no it's slow as shit, buy a macbook instead

Ik a lot of people prob aren't on here rn but I just ordered the t530

>>60789267
Is it really that slow? Well if it's really not usable I probably won't buy one, it's a shame that many websites are so slow and shitty these days though

>>60789432
I want you to take a wild guess and tell me just how much x86 CPU technology has progressed in the last 8-10 years.

>>60778247
X230 - I have it myself and it's worth every penny, even today it performs like new hi-end business class laptop. Ps sry for bad english, hope I could help

>>60789463
Well a lot, but I thought a 2nd gen i5 would still be enough

>>60789589
You got memed.
an x220 is fine, just buy lots of ram and an ssd
you can even go back to core 2 duo times (2008 era) and it'll still run fine unless you play games

>>60789659
Well damn, I'm stupid. One company that recycles laptops in my country currently has x220's an i5-2540, 4gb ram and a 320gb hdd. They also seem to have an ips display. Do you think this would be a good purchase? They even offer a 6 monty warranty. I've been thinking about buying a used thinkpad for quite long already since I want something to try linux with and I also kind of want a second pc in case the other one breaks.

Do the most recent thinkpad versions still have hardware whitelists in the BIOS? Mad af because couldn't install killer WLAN card on my T440p, wondering if the successors do the same

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>>60777990
My new battery is in the mail! Thanks Lenovo!

I should attempt to take a better picture of my favorite laptop!

>>60789726
BIOS modding tutorials exist. Google "T440 BIOS mod" or something like that and see if anything has been done. I'm currently running all completely kernel-compatible hardware on my x201 (Above pic)!

>>60790691
I'm guessing that's not really Win95, mind sharing the details?

>>60790691
Where did you get that penguin sticker? I had to install linux myself.

Nice awoo btw.

>>60786421
40-50 for ivy bridge and sandy bridge thinkpads

>>60787574
dont just buy for that unless you wanna only get through half a movie on on charge
just put it on your lap or tilt the screen up against your legs. The 180 degree hinge lets position the screen much better than most other laptops

>>60790937
Should I buy the i3-6100U or i3-7100U?

So I've got a T21 kicking around. Ideas for what to do on a P3 at 750MHz with 128MB of RAM? It's still on the original Windows 98SE install.

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>>60790977
according to passmark you should get neither
also I dont even know which thinkpad youre buying but I know its not a T, X, W, P and I can just tell you its a piece of shit
pic rel: 3220m is the dual core i5 on the T430 and X230

I'm new to thinkpads but I've read some things about them.
I'd like to get an X220 with 8GB ram, an hdd and an m2 ssd (wangblows+gayOS) and probably a new battery. How much would that roughly cost me?

>>60791112
Well, portability (<1.5kg/3.3lbs) is a very important factor for me because I have to bring the thinkpad to school. I also cannot deal with 1366x768 displays. I'm considering the T470s, but it's too expensive.

>>60791183
actually never mind this >>60791112
apparently all ULV cpus are shit up to 6th gen
no wonder /tpg/ doesnt talk about newer thinkpads much.
Also personally I can carry my T430 which about 2.2kgs in backpack all day no problem. Do you have a lot of books or something?

>>60791255
Well I have a lot of stuff to carry so 1.5kg is really the limit. I'm not stupid enough to buy the X1 carbon which weighs 1.13 kg but costs a fortune.

How is a T400 with a x9100, 8gb of RAM and a SSD doing in tasks like programming and animu? I got one for $40 and I want to upgrade it a little bit. Anybody still using it and mind sharing their experience? Thanks desu

>>60790705
I know that they exist. But, if I have to hack the matrix on my laptop just to use a different WLAN - then, maybe, that laptop is not so great. On my dell latitude e6440 from the same generation this shit didn't need to be done, for instance.

>>60791297
I was gong to say maybe get a x2xx but the 4th and 5th gen i5s are no better than the i3s you asked

>>60791165
>m2
you need mSATA
~$150 for the base unit
~$60 for 8GB DDR3 new
$60-$100 for a new genuine 9cell
~$100 for a 128GB mSATA SSD
$90+ for a 7mm 2TB HDD

you can buy RAM used to get it cheaper, can't recommend buying used storage. the HDD has to be 7mm height, standard 9.5mm drives won't fit in the SATA bay. don't fall for the SSHD meme.

also little sense in buying any battery that isn't a new genuine 9cell, knockoffs aren't reliable enough, smaller batteries aren't cheaper enough, and you'll likely already have a used battery so there's no reason to gamble on another used one.

>>60789262
>many websites being so heavy these days
This, current web devs are idiots.
Use user agent switcher to request the mobile site instead.

>>60791443
who the hell needs a 2tb hard drive in an x220?
Just get a 256gb msata ssd for now (those are like $150 or less) for now, then if you really need more space pick up a 500gb normal sata ssd for $150-$200
Then get a chinky 9 cell for $30 and that will give you a good year or two of use instead of an official one that would give you 2-3 years for $90
Plus a lot of thinkpads ship with 1 4gb stick, and getting a second 4gb is $20 used (no reason to buy new ddr3 ram)

>>60790966
>one charge
The X220t have 6 cell batteries?

>>60791650
When I said 8GB I actually meant getting a second 4GB stick. Also, I don't mind about hdd space. Don't thinkpads come with a 320GB HDD or something? Or is it the one it comes with considered slow and unusable? About the SSD, I found a 120GB MSATA one (new) for about 60 eurodollars. Is that worth it?

>>60791747
don't buy new ram, they all have lifetime warranties
And even adjusting for europoor prices they should be less than 30 eurobux for a 4 gig stick
Same with msata drives, If you are buying a used laptop buy used parts (except for batteries). No 99% of used ssds will stay good long enough that they will be irrelevant before they die
60 eurobux for a 120gb ssd should be fine, but imo get a 250 gig drive
Thinkpads usually come with 250-500gb hard drives
but it's $CURRENTYEAR hard drives do not belong in laptops (especially the ultra portable ones), so try to avoid them at all costs

>>60790888
unix stickers

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>tfw my precious X220 starts looking a little old
>tfw i start eyeing other cheap laptops
>tfw i see nothing good
can't wait to get rich so i can buy a good laptop

>>60792475
just get another x220 or x230 and mod the shit out of it.

>>60779340

>Generally though, Grade A is going to appear to be brand new

No, it isn't. The only time I have ever gotten a ThinkPad off eBay in 'Grade A' condition was when I bought one that was literally never used. They'll call it 'Grade A' generally and I'll see keyboard wear and at least 10 scuffs all over the chassis, and that's just from the grainy smartphone images they take. Doesn't matter to the average eBay ThinkPad buyer though, seeing as they're all dirty scrubs who probably don't even clean the laptop upon arrival.

>>60792527
That's like, a huge waste of money. It would basically be half of my budget spent on old hardware.
If I had to guess now, I'd say I'll move on to X250 in a few years. Seems like a solid laptop, but the keyboard isn't as good, obviously.

>>60785878

>doesn't realize how badly he just fucked up

Oh my god.

>>60792577
given that IPC hasn't moved in 5 years your not really missing out on much. What does an x250 really have over a FHD+classic keyboard mod x230 other than a quite a bit of battery life because it sure as hell isn't performance.

>>60792577
>>60792622
of course if battery life is what you care about then go right ahead. The next big improvement would be x270 because it has NVMe and DDR4, until then change has been minimal at best.

>>60791112

I knew there were no improvements in performance in general from the xx30 series but holy fuck, I didn't imagine it would get WORSE while paying more and having a newer machine.

>>60777990
recently got myself a 440s, loving it so far.

question: is a m2 ssd faster than a sata3 one ?

I suspect there isnt, but I wanted a second opinion

also why the hate against the new trackpads, I think its great to use with only 1 hand.

>>60779306
>>60779340
>>60792531
I've bought a grade C laptop that had a damaged case and cracked screen
I've also bought a grade C laptop that only has some scuffs on the screen cover
I've bought a grade A laptop with the palmrest all fucking scratched (seemed like watch of jewelry scratches)
I've bought a grade B laptop that was like new. The seller said it was grade B because it came with a haircrack in the bezel of the screen (not even noticeable).

tl;dr: grades mean shit, a grade B might mean something to someone, while it might mean another thing to another person.

>>60792622
>>60792633
My X220 gets about 6 hours with a relatively new 9 cell battery, which is not great. And I'd prefer to not have to mess with the FHD mod. Newer models look nicer as well.

The keyboard is the only real disadvantage, but I don't think sacrificing it is that big of a price. I absolutely love X220's keyboard, but I'll have to move on some day any way.

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530 i7 3940xm nvidia k2000m masterrace.

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I've put in a new fan and cooling unit in my W510, but the trackpad stopped working after I un-plugged and plugged it. The trackpoint and everything else works. Any clues to where I should start looking for the solution?

>>60792973
Maybe you should start looking at the trackpad connector, maybe? Isn't it obvious?

>>60778599
Yes.

>>60792608
>fucked
But the trackpad is useless. Remember the thinkpad with only the trackpoint? I wish they would drop the trackpad for reduced weight.

>>60784706
i do fine with 2

>>60793206

I'm not talking about the trackpad you fucking brainlet. I'm talking about how he fucked up the removal.

>Remember the thinkpad with only the trackpoint? I wish they would drop the trackpad for reduced weight.

You're incredibly fucking stupid. Do you forget that the LAPTOP needs the screen and bottom portion to both be the same size? Yeah, no, they can't just lop off a quarter of the body chassis around the trackpad and palm rest. Or do you think the actual trackpad assembly which weighs like 50 grams should go for saving weight?

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>>60793002
The plug doesn't seem to have any physical damage/alterations and fits right back in.

I've tried looking for software that recognizes what hardware is connected, but the mousepad seems to be connected through the moterboard. I tried looking through the BIOS startup, but I couldn't find any settings related to it there.

I'm meeting a woman tomorrow to buy her x200 for £50 ($65 for amerifags). She mentioned the battery needs replacing. Other than that it seems too good to be true. 4GB RAM, 250GB HDD, Intel Core Duo 2.40ghz, charger and great condition. Have I found a good deal or am I missing something?

>>60793562

She's a woman who's done no research and doesn't know what the laptop is worth. Not uncommon even on eBay with female sellers. All this woman sees is some old looking black laptop that she thinks is worthless.

Convince me to get a Thinkpad 13 (silver, 7th gen) over an X260 for $30 less.

>>60793591
She's not wrong

>>60793854
>t. woman

>>60793206
>I wish they would drop the trackpad for reduced weight.
mate it's not like they're making a satellite where they need to save every gram
in the grand scheme of things the trackpad is nothing and if they didn't have one, normrods wouldn't be able to handle the trackpoint and they would either introduce it back, or drop the thinkpad line due to shit sales

Is Thinkpad x131 for ~$90 a good deal? Please respond

>>60789262
my mum uses an x201t with 8GB of RAM for internet, email, Word, and Excel and I've never had any complaints form her, and she would complain if there was a problem

>>60789262
it's fine, just make sure to get the good screen and the good battery

>>60791255
they don't usually talk about them because they don't have the money, but like you said, their performance up until recently has been shit

>>60785931
>P71
what are you going to be using it for?

Is Libreboot possible on a x9100 T400? And please don't say Coreboot, I want muh maximum freedumbs

>>60792608
Are you retarded son?

>>60787574
I have an X200T I use mostly for watching media and the odd bit of handwriting.

I recommend you get a regular X220 and only later get a X61 or X200 tablet if you really feel like you need it. They are very handy as well a 'tablet', but not so much as a graphics tablet.

>>60794032
shitposting / blogging / twitter

I'm not a gamerfag, anon.

I bought a X200 for very cheap, only it seems to be missing half the screws. Does anyone know where can I get them for a reasonable price?

>>60794785
they're standard screw sizes

depends which ones specifically but they should all be between m2x3 and m2x5

just go to the hardware store or hobby store and they should have them

>>60793383
That's the only way to remove the x240 trackpad dipshit. There are no screws.

>>60794742
it's super overkill for that

>>60792944
Are you at least overclocking?

>>60794917
Shit, are you serious anon?

I'm so glad I fell for this meme. I just found out the other day the power cord was also standard.

>>60790992
Slap pfsense in it and use as dedicated firewall

>>60791343
It's good, and how did you get it for that price?

>>60793562
I know exactly which one you're talking about and yes it's fuckin excellent. A new chink battery should be around 20 quid with shipping. Watch out for vans and good luck!

If the t470p would come with thunderbolt, would it be worth it?

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What model Thinkpad is this?

>>60796266
x201

>>60796303
Thanks Anon

>>60783573
I'm a noodle ass motherfucker and my w500 is my daily carry

my thinkpad should be here on friday

>>60796372
I'm sorry for your back and/or shoulders in 10 years.

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What do you use to test newly bought thinkpads?

>>60796396
you people are really dumb

>>60796435
hands, eyes, brain, time.

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Jeb uses a ThinkPad. Trump uses a Mac.
What's your excuse?

>>60796576
>probably that thinkpad has worse battery life than the mac
LOW ENERGY.

>>60796547
I was thinking software side.
Checking if the BIOS is password protected is obvious.
But what about the other stuff?

I was thinking of getting Hirens bootCD or Gandalf's on USB flash drive to test the CPU/RAM/Battery/HDD.

>>60796576
I'm not the leader of the free world and the most powerful man in the earth.

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T series or X series for a dev?

>>60796714
X is small enough to carry around and large enough to use as your primary machine.

>>60796601
That's exactly what Linux ISOs are for. Stuff you listed is borderline cancer.
Boot Ubuntu or Mint, click around for a bit, and you're done.

>>60796750
>cancer.
Then puppy linux?

>>60796735

Are ulv processors good?

>>60796852
Not until the seventh generation, and only then because they get ddr4 and other little things.

>>60796396
er-go-nom-ics my dude. If your bag fits correctly you can carry more weight before causing damage.

>>60796852
X-series generally use the same processors as the T-series.

>>60796872
Only possible with backpacks with a good back support.

>>60796882

According to the wiki, somo are not ulv

>>60796867

welp, cant buy a new one

>>60796435
Hardware defects rear their ugly head shortly after unboxing, if it's made it this far, the hardware is fine, you probably still want to clean it out and reapply thermal paste if the heatpipe is conveniently placed, x series need not apply.

>>60793591
>>60795802
thanks anons

MIGRATE

>>60796815
>>60796815

>>60796924
>Hardware defects
Not necessarily.
Maybe the previous owner switched the HDD with dying one, or the RAM is not as it advertised.
>x series need not apply
Why?

>>60796576
I wonder which laptop is more American, the chinese factory lenovo thinkpad or the chinese sweatshop apple macbook

I'm actually curious which one might be more American, like if any parts are still made in anywhere that isn't china