/pcbg/ - PC Building General

First for Kike miners ruining 580s

Newfag here, why are they called cryptominers?

How jewish is Newegg when it comes to price matching? I don't want to buy a $40 212 from them just for them to turn around and try to tell me that Amazon's one costs that much with shipping or some bullshit.

>>60769210
They mine cryptocurrency

>>60769222
Don't buy a fucking 212, buy a h7.

>>60769098
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQ2MYr
Is this a good mid range build for 1440p? I mostly play jrpgs and rogue-likes.

>>60769529
>580
Read >>60769165

anyone know where i can get screws in general for a build?

>>60769578
Are 1060s sold out?

>>60769590
Home depot

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XN9Q2R
Alright, I've got my parts all picked out, and I'm ready to sale-hunt.
Is Part Picker good enough to watch for price changes? What are good sites to keep an eye on? Are there any good rebates, coupons or combos out there?

>>60769613
Nope.

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Just dumped my piece of shit 980ti, should I buy a 1080ti now or wait for the next gen of cards? When are they coming?

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>tfw fell for the SSD meme

>>60769671
wait for VEGA

>>60769671
Wait for Vega or Volta. A 980ti is still good enough for gaming at the moment. What games are you playing that you can't currently max out?

>>60769671
The 980 Ti is good though.

Rate this build please. Total would be about 820€, but I plan to wait a couple months in hopes of a slight decrease when threadrippers come out

Amd ryzen 1600
MSI B350 PC mate mainboard
Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming 8G
be quiet pure power 10 500W CM psu
SanDisk 240gb ssd
Cheapest 8gb of ddr4 ram I could find (2133)
Nanoxia deep silence 3 case

>>60769634
>I'm ready to sale-hunt.
>580
Hey. Whoever does the OP. Please put in a line to tell people to snatch the fuck out of any 580 stock they run across or to drop them from their build due to stock shortage.

Going to have a go at overclocking for the first time. What would you say are the standard benchmarking and monitoring software used? There seems to be a whole slew of them. Two cases even have similar names: HWMonitor, HWiINFO and wPrime, Prime95.

For the actual OC'ing I've downloaded Ryzen Master for CPU & memory, and MSI Afterburner for my GPU. But as I understand it I can do my CPU and memory all from the BIOS, too? I don't know how true this is, but I've read on some sites that they had more luck getting higher speeds for their memory through Ryzen Master than the BIOS itself.

>>60769714
You might want to consider VEGA cards since you plan to wait a couple of months.

>Cheapest 8gb of ddr4 ram I could find (2133)
Ryzen benefits a lot from high frequency RAM. Get 3000mhz minimum.

>>60769723
You need something to benchmark your OC as well or at least test stability. Get Furmark for GPU. Prime is fine for CPU.

>>60769671
The 1080 Ti is a game changer. I've replaced my 980 Tis in SLI with a single 1080 Ti and haven't regretted it. More games benefit from a single stronger card than two weaker ones. The 980 Ti is old news, it probably can't even keep up in a lot of games. Replace that old card, it's worth it.

What's the best motherboard, performance-wise, for an 1800x?

>>60769768
Gigabyte Aorus gaming.

>>60769762
Unless you are gaming in 4k there are no games that hugely benefit from 1080ti over 980ti that is worth the upgrade price. Only do this if you are rich and have money to burn.

>>60769783
False
https://youtu.be/iODCtmue1wo

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>>60769713
I've been living with it crashing like a cunt for the last month and I'm just done with it. It's currently away on an RMA, hopefully they'll accept it, if not I'm just going to eBay it when it gets back.

>>60769683
>>60769698
>vega
>volta
When?

>What games are you playing that you can't currently max out?
None, I'm just a child and my 980ti pissed me off so I need something new.

>>60769825
VEGA is in the new iMac so im expecting it to be released very soon

>>60769774
The K7, I'm assuming?

Also not sure what kind of cooler to get.

>>60769892
Either a Noctua nh-d15 or a 240/280 aio, depending on what your case supports.

What's the best aftermarket RX 580?

Assuming that they'll be available in the future

>>60770080
Either the top xfx or the sapphire nitro +

>>60770080
Sapphire makes the best AMD cards.

>>60770089
Second for sapphire nitro.
Also Gigabyte Aurorus

>>60770089
>>60770099
>>60770290
Thanks fampaitachi

I hope once the Vega comes out miners will flock to that but they probably won't

>>60770363
Depends on Vegas price to compute ratio as well as Eth current bubble.

Yes?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPwfgL

>>60770601
No

>>60769903
Thanks.

One tend to cool better than the other or are they about the same?

>>60770624
Why, no?

>>60770630
For the same reasons why you want it.

>>60770629
They're about the same but AIOs are louder and will cost anywhere from $30-50 more.

>>60770646
I see. Okay.

how easy is it to damage your components when assembling a PC as a beginner?

>>60770727
Easy if you don't know what to do or where what goes.

>>60770727
It's literally Lego for adults. Unless your retarded, you can do it without breaking anything.

Just watch a few PC building guides before hand, even watch one while your doing it if you need to.

>>60770727
It is easier to injury yourself than the components if you are a beginner. Some of the edges are deceptively sharp like the backplate of mobo.

>buy R5
>buy AM4 mobo
>plug monitor into mobo
>dock stars off review when non-existent integrated graphics doesn't work

why do retards do this

>>60770601
>Founders edition
No.

>>60770759
>>60770727
Not this poster, but I recommend watching a BitWit or Tech Deals full build video.

>>60770806
Same reason people dock stars off of TN panels for not being IPS

>>60770809
Ok but it was only 20 bucks more than the cheapest 1080 ti chipset on the market.

>>60770845
It's also a bigger housefire than the 7700k

>>60770812
>>60770759
>>60770771
>>60770741
maybe this is a dumb question, but a does the case and mobo come with all the screws you need?

>>60770855
Oh. Damn. Roasted. In more than one ways.

So, cheaper 1080 ti? Got it.

>>60770860
Case comes with all the screws need to mount your mobo

>>60770860
Your Case should have mounting holes for the motherboard of your size, and the motherboard should come with the screws.

Corsair H55 or Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4? Im planning to overclock 1600X to over 3.8GHz. Is it worth it to geth a water cooler

>>60771036
You can do a 1600 at 3.8 with the stock cooler. Is that an option for you or do you really need the lower vcore?

I bought DDR4 ram that is clocked at 3000 mhz but in the bios it says my two sticks are running at 2133. Will it break anyhting if i change it to 3000 in the bios? I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and MSI b350 tomahawk motherboard. Please help, I don''t want to break my pc but i don't want to have wasted money on getting these faster sticks of ram

>>60771091
That's expected, use AXMP instead of setting it yourself but you may have to fiddle with it yourself if AXMP doesn't do the trick.

Also make sure your BIOS is updated.

>>60771091
>Will it break anyhting if i change it to 3000 in the bios?
no. Though the system MAY not boot due to an instability issue. Keep on top of bios updates as they WILL fix this issue.
Little hiccups like this are commonplace with Ryzen, so they're definitely working on it.

>>60771113
>>60771130
It's called flashing your bios right? Thank you anon, I'll look up video tutorials of flashing. For now I'll just wait till updates stabilize everything and stick with 2133 in the meantime.

>tfw not some cuck who spends 8 gorillion dollars every couple years on a new PC
I just got a prebuilt Dell with an a sandy bridge i7 and RX 570. Should last me a while, it's sad how you all lack patience. Yes I'm a poorfag.

>>60771145
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support_download

MSI is on top of the game when it comes to RAM support. The Tomahawk is a-okay for XMP, just UPDATE.

Which sticks are you using by the way, they are supported by the mobo right?

>>60771145
go onto your motherboard manufacturers website and navigate to toe page specifically for your motherboard.
Click on the support tab and look for the latest bios revision. If it's never than the bios in yourmotherboard, download the update and put it onto a USB flash drive.
Then, restart the computer and go into the bios with the USB drive plugged in.
You should be able to update the BIOS from the flash drive through some option there. Most motherboards also allow you to update directly from the internet through the bios, but it's a LOT safer to do it from a local storage device.
here. He goes through it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAelSOF6f0

Any help anons?

Recently built a PC, including a G1 gaming GTX1070. Attempted to boot GTA 5 and benchmark today, got a quality 23.4 FPS. What the fuck is wrong with my 400 dollar graphics card? Checked the bios, the card settings, have all the new drivers, processor is a core I7 7700K at 4.2 Ghz, and psu is a corsair 650i. Why won't this shit work Bruh

>>60771214
>If it's never
newer.

If I'm gonna exclusively use my pc for gaming and don't have much need for the extra cores of the 1600, is the 7600k a better choice?

>>60771192
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0123ZBPDA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
PCpartpicker told me everything was compatible.
>>60771214
Thank you anon, but how would I tell if it's newer than my motherboard bios?

>>60771233
Yes, and the AMDrones will try to say that the 1600x will give you better frame times and other retarded shit. Leave now.

>>60771230
Did you plug in the extra power connectors?

>>60771251
>but how would I tell if it's newer than my motherboard bios?
in your bios, it will tell you somewhere which version of the bios it is.

>>60771283
Extra power connectors?
I just plugged it into the PCLe

>>60771251
PCPartPicker is not always right. You should double check with the motherboard website, it will have a list of the manufacturer supported RAM modules.

For the record, your mobo does not have support for that specific module

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2

CMK8GX4M2B3000C15

Doesn't mean it won't work, just means you might not get the max speeds out of it.

If you haven't updated your BIOS yet, just download the latest one.

>>60771233
no. The I5 does not make sense. a 1600 will make more sense.
That said, if you want a PC strictly for gaming, grab an i7 7700k. Nothing outperforms it in gaming.
>>60771276
>AMDrones
we go where the best performance for the dollar is anon. Intel can't do that anymore. They recently shot themselves in the foot with the X299 release.

>>60771233
I would say yes, but where I live it's also twice as expensive so I went with 1600 anyway.

>>60769210
never start your post with "newfag here"
thanks

>>60771322
You've probably

1. Forgot to plug in the 8pin power cable from the PSU to the GPU
2. Forgot to plug your monitor into the GPU in the first place

>>60771283
And I plugged in the 8 pin connector to the psu.

>>60771322
lmoaaa

>>60771322
>I just plugged it into the PCLe
Lmao

>>60771327
How did they? More than likely they will clock higher than AMD's offerings and outperform them. Will they cost more? Yes. Does it matter? No.
>inb4 shill

>>60771343
Did both of those things, just forgot that I did.

>>60771360
>wow it clocks 1% higher, that means its justified to spend $200 more!

lmao

>>60771324
>For the record, your mobo does not have support for that specific module
Looks like I won't be touching anything. I just know what will happen, I will try to increase the ram speed and my pc dies. What's the danger in trying to turn on XAMP for my ram?
>>60771300
Thank you anon

>>60769737
>Ryzen benefits a lot from high frequency RAM. Get 3000mhz minimum.
hello
no.
he isn't playing at 720p with a GTX 1080, which is how the benchmarks were done. he won't be GPU limited nor using a 165hz screen. he won't see any difference

>>60771372
Some of us can afford the premium, I appreciate AMD for making my wallet happier. It'll be more than 1%.

>>60771364
Idk senpai did you even bother signing up for the exclusive geforce experience™

What settings are you running GTA on? Is the CPU overclocked, underclocked? Is the GPU under clocked? Is the ram working fine?

>>60771276
It's not just a question of whether the 7600K offers better performance in a particular area (and it's worth noting that in some games, its performance is worse, probably down to the lack of HT). You also have to factor in the Z270 and aftermarket cooler. At that point, the spotty performance benefit can't justify the larger pricetag.

>>60771360
>it clocks slightly higher
>That means it's worth spending twice as much
no.
fuck off Intel shill. If Intel made a performance/cost king, I'd jump on that. But they don't.
And I'm not the only one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJNRtGo5IMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

>>60771378
A quick google of the model number and AXMP brought up an MSI forum post claiming that the Tomahawk, after updates, can get 3200 sometimes, 2933 all the time

>>60771395
Everything is working like it should, my dude. Max settings, but I tried lowering them and it had absolutely no effect on the benchmark. I heard old drivers could fuck up ur framerate, so I uninstalled them and am currently downloading the newest driver. We'll see what happens when I finish installing that. Also heard GeForce experience was not that helpful in these situations. Ur thoughts?

>>60771405
Decent B350 MB: $100
Decent Z270: $100
Decent cooler: $30-40 (applies to the 1600x as well)
Very helpful point, thanks Anon.

>>60771421
Load up MSI afterburner and monitor stats in game if it still doesn't work. If not time to RMA your card.

>>60771420
But this anon >>60771324 said that my mobo doesn't support my specific ram so wouldn't changing the speed of it be bad? I feel like that I should be happy that it's even working but if it's actually safe then i would like to change the speeds to 2933

>>60771408
Oh yeah let me listen to two faggots who have affiliate links in all their videos and would profit from their viewers jumping ship to AMD and would likely receive kickbacks for their shilling.

>>60771453
RMA?

>>60771465
>everything is paid advertising.
paid reviews are illegal in America, comrade

>>60771427
>Decent B350 MB: $100
>Decent Z270: $100
The only Z270s at $100 are the very cheapest. They might be fine. But by that same token, you can get the cheapest B350s at $60, and those might also be fine.
>Decent cooler: $30-40
You can overclock the 1600 some hundreds of MHz with the included stock cooler. Buying aftermarket for a maximum OC isn't strictly required for someone looking to save money.

>>60771480
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_merchandise_authorization

You sure you plugged in the power connectors senpai?

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Can I get spoonfed about running Win7 on Ryzen? Are there images that have the latest service packs + USB drivers needed preloaded?

Will be used mostly for lightroom photo editing and gaming with a focus on being quiet. I know the 7700k would probably suit my needs better but will the 1600x bottleneck a 1080ti significantly at 1440p? I like the idea of two extra cores.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXHTTH

>>60771463
I'm the same anon, and like I said, your mobo doesn't support the specific module but it can still be used. All RAM speeds are set at a default bootable speed across all motherboards. The thing about (A)XMP is that you don't have to worry about wrong timings/voltages since you're not changing anything yourself. It does it all for you and is able to keep itself running.

Like I said, people have reported success with your model of sticks and XMP on the Tomahawk board, AFTER BIOS UPDATES.

Honestly dude, all I want you to take away from this is to fucking update your BIOS and enable XMP.

>>60771233
Not at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

If you do, expect bigger FPS dip and having to take time closing anything you have open to makes sure that your CPU isn't used any higher than it already is (~90%) while gaming
just watch the videos for yourself and make your own judgement, compare both framerate and CPU usage (the former tends to go down when the latter goes up)

>>60771489
I'm 100% sure Bruh, I'm looking at it as we speak.

>>60771500
Thank you anon. I was downloading the bios updates and watched the video while waiting for replies before doing anything. I'l go update and turn on XMP, i won't manually change the settings. Wish me luck

>>60771493
no idea
but:

W7 Unblock Update Kaby-Lake / Ryzen
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19

Drivers to USB drive:
https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/125921-how-to-add-drivers-manually-to-a-usb-drive-to-install-windows-7-using-a-usb-3-0-port

>>60771498
No modern CPU even fucking i5 will bottleneck a 1080ti on 1440p upwards. CPU bottleneck commonly occurs on lower resolution like 1080p

>>60769098
where is logical incriminates

>>60771498
>will the 1600x bottleneck a 1080ti significantly at 1440p?
If you have a 144hz screen a 7700k would indeed ensures the FPS are closer to it constantly, but otherwise no the 1600x will not bottleneck you at 60hz nor 120.

>>60771516
Make sure you are plugged into your GPU and not your onboard integrated graphics

>>60771510
Thanks, that convinced me.
If I'm not planning to upgrade for several years, is it worth getting the 1600x or are the differences that marginal when overclocking?

>>60771542
I tried that as well, but disabling onboard graphics caused my gpu to not be recognized at all. Also, installing the driver right now, so hopefully this will fix my issue.

>>60771605
>are the differences that marginal when overclocking?
They are indeed.
Just get an R5 1600 and in a few years maybe you'll feel like overclocking the 6 cores to 3.8 - 3.9GHz for a decent performance improvement

>>60771540
I forgot to add it would be a 144hz screen. Thank you

>>60771660
Then yeah you'll get bottlenecked by the R5 1600x (though not significantly), but 3200MHz RAM and overclocking should tighten the differences between it and the 7700k quite a lot.
But the 7700k would indeed get higher FPS. The choice is entirely up to you.

>>60771609
>disabling onboard graphics caused my gpu to not be recognized at all
I am 100% sure it is your onboard graphics causing the issue at this point.

>>60771660
1440p @ 144hz bottleneck will be the GPU. Even 1080ti can't reach a consistent 144 fps @ 1440p.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/gtx-1080-ti-review-benchmarks

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Is the founders edition 1080ti really that much of a housefire? I'm a sucker for the way it looks.

I had a 780, which I think draws a similar amount of power, with the same cooler and it was loud but not silly loud.

3570k and my 7870 just died. I was going to buy a 1070 but my friend says to wait for Vega. I looked online and I get late July-August release date to next year. I don't need a video card right away but I can't wait 6 months.

>>60771819
Nice blog, where do I subscribe?

>>60771796
Do you have a high tolerance for noise? By housefire people mean that it will run hot which means the shitty FE blower fan will run loud and often. If you have no issues with that, then get the FE.

>>60771819
Your choices are.
Wait for Vega which will be widely available in October provided the jews don't get them first.
Wait for Vega and then get the 580 since the jews will move on to the Vega.
Buy the 1080ti now and enjoy your card.

Don't get the 1070. It is a decent card but it is too middle of the road to be of any value. Too overpowered for 1080p but mediocre for anything upwards.

>>60771796
it runs hotter, much louder and is more expensive than non-founder editions
not much point in getting one

I installed the latest version of MSI Afterburner (4.3.0) and RTSS (7.0.0 beta), but I only get the option to monitor CPU usage, not temps. In others' videos they have the option to. Do I have to do some trick to get it to show up?

>>60771941
Ryzen?
If so, the guys in these videos use some fuckery with HWInfo

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>>60771796
>Is the founders edition 1080ti really that much of a housefire?
keep a fire extinguisher handy

>>60771819
AMD said they're announcing Vega RX in July in Las Vegas, which means it'll likely hit the market in either August or September.
The reason everyone says wait for Vega is because AMD is on a goddamned roll right now.
First came the Ryzen 7 processors, which ignored the Core i7 despite being priced similarly, and went after the 6900k from Intel's HEDT X99 line. And it matched or beat it in performance despite costing half the price.
Then came Ryzen 5. Ryzen 5 made the Intel Core i5 offerings obsolete overnight and are even capable of fighting with the Core i7's.
Then came the Threadripper announcement. AMD's new HEDT platform with a top of the line chip having 16 cores, 32 threads, and 64 PCIe lanes.
Add in that Intel is fucking PANICKING if the X299 launch was anything to go buy. A well-known reviewer (jayztwocents) said it was the "WTF heard round the world".
With AMD being on a fucking steam roller everyone is expecting the Vega architecture of their new GPU's to completely BTFO nVidia.

And it's not hard to see why. While Intel and nVidia were content to rest on their laurels and push slight revisions, AMD set to work THROWING MONEY into R&D, to the point they've been in the red for years now.
AMD fucking earned this shit.
Long live the queen!

>>60771941
https://www.msi.com/blog/setting-up-osd-with-msi-afterburner

>>60771967
Vega isn't looking good so far in my opinion
For ryzen we knew since the event in december that it would take a shit on the 6900k and all of the cheaper Intel CPUs multi-threaded wise. The livestream benchmarks, ZBrush / Keyshot / Handbrake / Blender / Cinebench (Cinema4D) showed it very clearly.

But they've been worryingly silent with Vega, which so soon to launch is a clear indicator that it won't live up to the expecations. When AMD does something good, they always market the fuck out of it

>>60771966
Yeah, Ryzen. I'll search that up, thanks.

>>60771969
I'm clear on how to setup the OSD. CPU temperatures just don't show up at all in the list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/tZXzyc
OP here. After 4 months, just pulled the trigger. So happy. Too bad Vega is coming out too late

>>60771967
>With AMD being on a fucking steam roller everyone is expecting the Vega architecture of their new GPU's to completely BTFO nVidia.

Someone didn't watch the computex conference. Might be true pre-conference but RX Vega SLI running prey with visible screen tearing and 0 fucking counter or information doesn't do well for confidence.

>>60771967
>>60771896
Cool thanks bros
>>60771858
you just gotta keep an eye out and look for my posts

>>60772001
>with visible screen tearing
This can easily be caused by the projector or screen they used not having Freesync.

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Sapphire RX 570 4GB Nitro+
or
Sapphire RX 580 4GB Pulse

They are priced roughly the same in my local computer store. If you have to choose between those two, which one? Any other good alternatives?

7700k for $278 if anyone is interested

https://slickdeals.net/f/10220608-new-intel-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-quad-core-4-2ghz-processor-plus-free-usb-mouse-278-10

>>60771736
Nope, fixed it by downloading GeForce experience and optimizing the game. Thanks for the help tho

>>60772024
I agree but if you are not using an FPS counter why won't you cap the FPS to the projector limit or enable Vsync. It is not like the audience can tell if it is 30 FPS or 60 FPS off a projection. Better a smooth but lower FPS showing than one with visible screen tearing.

>>60771796
Even if it wasn't, it's going to sound like a vacum cleaner.

>>60771996
might be stupid, but I'm using ryzen master to monitor temps

>>60772025
I'd go with the 570. I'd only grab a 580 if it were the 8GB model.

>>60772025
RX580. And grab it quick.

>>60772029
>55% off
>699.99 retail
Thid is why i dont buy from ebay

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>tfw eternal wait
i guess after the asus mitx am4 finally comes out and then i wait for it to be in stock i might as well wait for vega; and then i might as well wait for volta price drops on vega and then i might as well wait for the next ryzen and then ill hae saved up enough for a nice volta anyway

>>60772025
How much is the 580?

>>60771997
>h60 in an ATX case
Do you dislike big heatsinks? Because your case don't and neither would your CPU. The h60 performs worse than even $50 air coolers, which is pretty normal considering how smol it is

I have an old 770 that I need to dump. Its barely been used. How much cash could I get off the thing?

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>>60772053
>>60772059
Thank you
>>60772104
Just got a response, turns out that they have both listed but doesn't actually have the stock. No estimate on restock date. tfw

Question here.
I'm planning to upgrade from my ~2009 budget system soon-ish and have everything mostly planned out, except for the GPU.
Was originally going to get a RX 580 but looks like that's not happening now. GTX 1060s are still pretty overpriced here, starting from 250 € for minis and 280+ for a decent one.
So I was thinking either:
- Keep my old toaster card for now (HD 5770) and get a RX 580 when the market isn't fucked anymore, which will probably take months.
- Get something cheap for now, like a 1050 ti or a used last gen card like 970 or 980, then update to small Vega or nvidias next midrange card in a year or so?
What would make more sense?

Also, sorry for the long post.

does sffpc make it more or less advantageous to get a AIO cooler
im imagining more advantageous

>>60772105
Fuck. Should i change it to the MasterAir Pro 4
>also how to edit order on amazon

>>60772126
>doesn't actually have the stock. No estimate on restock date
Read >>60769165

Alright guys. Fractal Design FINALLY made a case I like without that brushed plastic trash look. What does everyone think of the new Fractal Design Focus G? Available in black, white, blue, red, and gunmetal gray.
contemplating grabbing a blue one. My only complaint about it is there's no basement for the PSU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml1f0H1TfNQ

>>60772126
>doesn't actually have the stock
That's what I thought. They're sold out everywhere.

>>60772164
is it mitx

>>60771966
>>60771996
So apparently HWiNFO64 in tandem with RTSS can also output an OSD that will show the CPU temps.

MSI Afterburner just doesn't support Ryzen atm and there's no guarantee it will as even the developer is off the project now as I understand it. According to him:

>CPU temperature monitoring for it is not supported by MSI AB and no promises on supporting it in future. Everything related to low-level CPU monitoring functionality in MSI AB is bonus feature provided under no future support obligations term. Everything related to AMD CPU monitoring is a twice bonus and I don't use it in any of my test rigs.

>>60772129
I would keep the old card, then save up and wait for vega. You have something that works, it can hold you over until you can get ahold of the better upgrade.

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God Bless did I just find the best monitor deal available? I don't have an AMD card though

http://www.microcenter.com/product/478859/XF270HU_27_WQHD_LED_Display_Monitor_w-_FreeSync

>>60772168
It's an ATX Mid-tower.
They also have the Focus G Mini, which is a mATX case.

AMD is fucking trash. Intel master race.

>>60772186
lammeee

>>60772187
found the shill.

>>60771500
>>60771519
Same anon here. Thank you for all your help, My ram is running at 2933 mhz right thanks to you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MTzLXH

Trying to stay below 800 for parts, got an HD and PSU and fans for days for the case. The main parts look good for an overall upgrade?

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>he fell for the dedicated GPU meme
On board graphics are just fine.

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Any budget builds that can beat out one of these babies?

>>60772226
give me your lunch money

>>60772208
Looks good anon!

>>60772187 (You)
This. AMD is so fucking bad.
>b-but muh cores!
Cores don't matter when your performance is still shit

>>60772180
Acer is selling all their monitors cheaply at the moment. No idea why.

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>>60772247
Your parents wouldn't be proud to see you shitposting on the internet!

>>60772229
You know i have always wanted to get one of those and see if it was possible to make a high end PC inside of it just for the lols

>>60772241
Awesome, i was a little concerned i might not be getting the most bang for my buck

>>60769098

Should I get the samsung 850 evo ssd or pm961 nvme ssd considering they are pretty much the same size and price? (256 gb/ $110)

Mobo is msi b350 pc mate

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>average AMD user

>>60772266
What does it mean?

Is a 1070 a good card to upgrade to from a 970? I mainly game at 1080p
Or would a 1060 be sufficient?

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>>60772247
Corelets thinking their housefires are good

>>60772296
get the 2.5" SSD
read the op. An NVME drive is not for the OS. It is use for the most commonly used files.

>>60772269
:(

>>60772305
No idea. I got my XF271HU which is the Kikesync version of what you posted for 200 dollars off as well.

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>>60772272
I am really tempted to pick up one of these and turn it into a local server/NAS

I wish there was a way to test for dead processors. I just wasted money on a new psu and mobo thinking it was them

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>>60772308
Both suck wait for vega

>4096 cores
>1640mhz
>50% more performance per clock render
>HBM2 mature

>>60772177
Thanks. Yeah, probably makes more sense than buying a different card for a year. I don't do much gayman anyway nowadays.

>>60772336
Do we know anything about vega price ranges? I always bought cards for ~$250.

>>60772326
How do you like the monitor? I went into Best Buy the other day and saw a 4k Acer monitor next to a 1080p Samsung, and the Samsung looked better. I figured the monitor just hadn't been calibrated correctly.

Also where did you get yours from?

>>60772360
>Do we know anything about vega price ranges?
nope. Not until Las Vegas next month
>launching Vega in Vegas

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>>60772313
>instruction per clock higher at higher clocks

>>60772360
Mid range vega probably won't happen until next year since they just released rx570/580.

>>60772360
Expect crazy expensive and sold out immediately because of scalpers, miners, and fake demand. Try your local Best buy/Microstation the day they release for your best chance at getting one.

>>60772364
Brick and mortar store. It was between the Acer XF271HU or the Asus PG279Q. They looked the same next to each other but the acer was 300 dollars cheaper.

I got them from the store cause they allowed me to take out the monitor to test after I purchased it for dead pixels and BLB so I didn't have to play RMA lottery compared to if i bought it online.

I love it so far.

I'm replacing my GTX 760 with a gtx1050 ti.

I haven't updated my card in a long time, when I am in the device manager, do I just disable the device or uninstall device?

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>>60772360
$499 for top WC model
$469 for top air model same specs lower clocks
$389 for cut down vega
$359 for aftermarket cut down vega

238% performance improvement over full polaris chip

-Raja

>>60772399
Ok cool, guess I'll get it. I'll just see if Best Buy or Walmart will price match so it's easy to return.

Thanks

>>60772405
Not sure if you're just memeing but with those prices in my case there is no point in waiting for vega. I just can't afford card like that.
>>60772382
What's with coin memers and amd? Why not nvidia?

>>60772419
Nvidia GPUs cost more and are worse. Simple.

An RX570 Etherum mining performance is better than the GTX 980.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RvfmP6/be-quiet-case-bgw06

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yz7CmG/phanteks-case-phes515egs

which case is better?

>>60772364
Monitors and tvs are always shipped with "showroom" settings. That's why they are always bright and eye catching. Also, the 4k one most likely didn't have a 4k feed.

t.Best Buy employee

>>60772317
I've read it and have an alright idea what nvme is used for, but I never read anything about it being an inferior choice for installing the OS. Can you explain? Is it because it's harder to do?

>>60772419
>What's with coin memers and amd? Why not nvidia?
Architecture. AMD cards have more cores. Nvidia has lesser but more complex cores. Since mining is trying out hash values (simple task), it is better suited to AMD cards.

>>60772187
Protect your overpriced assets.

>>60772470
no. It's because there's no noticeable difference in how fast the OS boots versus a normal 2.5".

>>60772461
Best Buy also doesn't calibrate monitors, only TVs.

>>60772402
use DDU for uninstalling drivers. don't disable the divice.

>>60772472
>>60772443
Ok, makes sense. Just one more question with all those miners buying out all cards how can anyone say that amd is finished if they're always out of stock?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wpCn4C
~$1400 budget/1080p ultrawide 144hz

>>60772129
get an aib 290< and wait for pascal refresh and vega to buy any mid+ cards

>>60772504
Because miners get all the card, no consumer can get them, so they're forced to go Nvidia.
Then miners end up selling all of the cards when they've been tortured to hell after some while and the used market gets flooded with tortured and in poor state cards which leads to people buying them and being unhappy at the poor state of the cards, blaming it on AMD
So consumers end up buying even more Nvidia

It's good for short term gains, but hurts reputation so bad for long term gains.

>>60772506
this is the worst post Ive seen so far

>>60772419
What 1070 is 250$ anyway?

>>60772506
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wpCn4C
>99$
>Not 69$

Cant

>>60772504
Because it puts them in a shit situation. People are buying their GPU but not for gaming allowing Nvidia to wield a monopoly on the gaming sector.
People are forced to buy Nvidia and develop brand loyalty. And those that don't wait with jaded disappointment as those cards are heavily overpriced or out of stock. When the new AMD cards hits the market, suddenly the used market is flooded with "barely used, no OC" AMD cards and morons buy them and are surprised when the card breaks in 1 year due to it being used previously for mining so they swear off AMD.

>>60772525
Lowest one I've found

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/?tag=pcpapi-20

>>60772472
lol? Nvidia cores aren't more "complex". You have no clue what you're talking about.
They are sometimes better in gaming due to having higher performance for their ROPs and older games being more ROP intensive.

Should I upgrade my PC in a month, or wait another year?

>>60772501
okay. I run DDU then power off, remove old card, install new one and power up and use the CD that came with?


sorry for sounding like and idiot, its been a long time since i have upgraded my card. Thanks for the help

>>60772486
... so when it's the same what makes 850 better? I did say the price is the same too and pm961 is the oem version of the 960 evo

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>>60772555
>okay. I run DDU then power off, remove old card, install new one and power up
yes
and then you install the drivers that you previously have downloaded (do it right now) from nvidia's website
The drivers that come with the CD aren't the latest ones

>>60772547
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Why_a_GPU_mines_faster_than_a_CPU#Why_are_AMD_GPUs_faster_than_Nvidia_GPUs.3F

From bitcoin wiki it self.

>>60772539
>>60772523
Thanks, now I understand whole amd hate and why people prefer nvidia. I guess I'm gonna stick with my r9 380 for a few more months and see how things will develop.

>>60772563
ah. Then go with whichever.

>>60772573
>Thanks, now I understand whole amd hate and why people prefer nvidia
That's not why people hate AMD though

I have a spare 290x which is out of warranty.
Should I sell it? Or do you think it is worth making a build solely for the sake of mining with it?

>>60772506
>>60772524
>>60772535
Oops wrong post, that was my $100 gaming pc build from LTT forum.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WsvtYr
this is the right one.

>>60772382
Nobody knows if Vega is gonna be good at cryptomining.

>>60772360
Vega isn't going to be that cheap, it's to compete against 1070/1080, so you can expect to add $100 your budget.

MSI, Gigabyte or Asrock for B350 mobos?

>>60772694
>Nobody knows if Vega is gonna be good at cryptomining.
Unless they changed their design methodology, it is gonna be good at cryptomining.

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What sort of CPU cooling do I need if I wanna push a 1600X to at least 3.8-3.9 GHz?

>>60772677
>Liquid cooler for 1500x
>Raidmax
>32 GB ram
What

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>>60772714
blow air on it

>>60772334

Please respond

>>60772702
Gigabyte AB350 has best audio
ASRock is top of the game
MSI Tomahawk has great bios

>>60772677
>raidmax
>32gb ram
>More spent in cpu and cpu cooling than gpu
Get a 1080 and build the system around that

>>60772736
What was the question?

>>60772765

There's no way to test for a dead processor right? It's kind of a gamble right? Cause after buying a new psu and mobo and shit's still not booting, even after all the one stick, two stick RAM shit....

That must mean it's the processor itself right?

>Look up MSI GTX 1070
>420 quid

I dunno if I can swallow that man

>>60772789
Yes.

>>60772795
The extra price is for the knife license m8.
The blades on the fans are sharp enough to be a weapon in UK.

>>60772818

Good, I've wasted enough money on if's and maybe's. I just want my PC back before E3.

>>60772830
Didn't you post a few days ago about that?
Didn't we already figure out it is your old CPU? Lucky for you, old CPU are easy to find. The hard part is always the mobo.

>>60772567
Thanks a lot anon, I really appreciate it!

>>60772846

Yeah that's me, it's still in shipping and I'm anxious in overthought.

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>>60772853
Did you test your RAM?
RAM are the easiest to test. I mean. I remember mentioning to test your RAM. Although faulty RAM doesn't prevent booting and it takes incredibly broken RAM to prevent booting.

>>60772572
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/?tag=pcpapi-20
>wiki
>something that any moron can edit
I'm a graphics programmer. The actual compute cores on AMD are not less complex.

>>60772714
A 110W TDP one would be fine. But you may as well get at least a 140W TDP one instead.
Even the stock 1600 cooler on those lower binned chips tend to do 3.75-3.85 at 1.325V from what I've seen.
My 1600X does 3.7GHz at 1.10625V. I'm pretty sure I could completely take the fan off and just let it passively cool off the heatsink and it'd still stay under 80C. It never goes over 50C with the fan never breaking 1090RPM.
You really just need laptop-tier cooling for them, and I just recommend 140W TDP coolers because it means the fan will be slow and it'll be quiet but a 110W TDP is fine if you want a more compact cooler.

Should I install chipset drivers from amd or asrock if I have asrock motherboard?

>>60773118
from AMD as they give the latest

>>60773121
Also how do I stop windows from downloading gpu drivers automatically?

>>60773138
a setting hidden away in display settings
good luck looking for it faggot

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>>60773156
stop being mean to anons!

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>>60773169
no

>>60772758
>Get a 1080 and build the system around that
how about this then.

>>60773207
impressive

>>60772855
Just wait©®™

>buying parts for brothers computer
>really want to go for a ryzen build
>i7's are about $50 cheaper and brothers on a budget
what do i do lads

>>60773504
are you aware that different components are fit for different usage

>>60773504
If your brother just wants to game, get i7.

>>60773504
You use the stock cooler that comes with the 1600 instead of a aftermarket one that dose about the same?
Show build sheet.

>>60772874

That was my thought, I just don't want this thing to get here and still face no booting.

>>60773504
How is the i7 cheaper?
You could get the 1600+gigabyte gaming 3 motherboard for $235 yesterday.
You can still get the 1600 for ~$200 with a good cooler which the i7 doesn't have and 1600X for $230.

What country do you live in that has a jewish conspiracy to make Ryzen more expensive?

>>60773529
You only need 4 items to post. You already swapped 2. You have to be incredibly unlucky with components if the thing still doesn't post.

>>60773546

That'd be right up my alley haha....

We'll see sometime this week

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>>60773512
stupid

>>60773568
i7-7700k is the undisputed CPU for gaming at the moment.

im building a pc with an i5 processor, 3000 mhz ram and gtx 1060 6gb and a 500 watt power supply. Is it enough?

>>60773592
>i5 processor
get out

>>60773592
don't get an i5, not worth it, if you must get intel get an i7
get a 1600 if you don't want intel

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>>60773588
Therefore everyone should shell out $310 in a CPU, $40 in a cooler and $120 in a motherboard as if all the others CPU were completely unable to do gaming

>>60773601
What processor would anon recommend for ca 300$

>>60773592
i5s are not worth it, get an R5 1600 instead as it is the best value CPU and offers very good performance not only for gaming but other tasks

>>60773601
>if you want X brand
please don't make recommendations based on people's personnal preferences. That's the best way to get them to pay for things they do not need nor benefit from.

>>60773612
he literally just told you. ryzen 5 1600

>>60773604
He already said i7 were cheaper and he is on a budget. I don't know the rest of his build or how the prices he is getting but based on the info he is giving us he should get an i7 if his brother is gaming. Maybe he is reusing a good CPU cooler and doesn't need to buy a new cooler? Fucking morons like you need to reply in context with the information given instead of going hurrr durrrrr

>>60773627
what if he meant locked i7? not worth at all.

>>60773627
if that i7 is locked then of course it will be cheaper

>>60773639
Even a locked i7 beats a Ryzen when it comes to single core performance for games.
I mean even the strongest Ryzen gets bottlenecked at 1080p.

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>>60773627
He said i7s are $50 cheaper than Ryzen. Which i7s, which ryzens? Why not saying "Intel CPUs are $50 cheaper"?
The informations he gave are extremely vague, and you immediately assumes "the 7700k costs $50 less than the R7 1700" from it
Besides, the R5 1600 is ~$200 and doesn't require a cooler. The 7700k would be $260 with a $50 discount, and he'd still have to pay $30 - $40 cooler to go along with it, on top of a $20 - $30 more expensive motherboard than with a Ryzen build.
He said he's just doing gaming. He didn't say 144hz gaming. Why would you waste more money on a 7700k even if it's cheaper than usual, when the R5 1600 is an excellent gaming CPU?
You are bad.

>>60773665
>when the R5 1600 is an excellent gaming CPU
Lets not get carried away. R5 1600 is a decent gaming CPU and probably the best one you can get on a budget. Any CPU that can't do 144hz @ 1080p isn't a excellent gaming CPU since going from 60hz -> 144hz is a very logical increment.

>>60773652
>I mean even the strongest Ryzen gets bottlenecked at 1080p.
Go to any of the threads here
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/text/go%20away%20IMG_xxxx/

>>60773699
Nah fuck off.
http://www.legitreviews.com/cpu-bottleneck-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-tested-on-amd-ryzen-versus-intel-kaby-lake_192585/3

Here is actual benchmarks instead of shills shilling shills. Legit data showing that given maximum GPU power, the Ryzen 7 1700 can't even output 144hz @ 1080p.

>>60773693
unless you're shilling out 500$ on a gpu there's no way you're going to hit 144hz in every title.
r5 1600 is more than enough for 144hz in every comp fps title and mobas, i.e where it actually matters.

>>60773693
Not even the 7700k can do a consistent 144hz throughout all games. I guess the 7700k is not an excellent gaming CPU.

>>60773729
Only if you are on a budget, if not you always give yourself headroom to upgrade. If you get R5 1600, your next upgrade will have to get a new CPU and a new GPU.

>>60773735
Did I say stutter and say consistent moron?

>>60773746
If he gets an R5 1600 he doesn't have to buy a new mobo for Zen+. Unlike with Intel where it's almost always a socket change.

>>60773728
Then how come Ryzen took Firestike extreme then on a AIO.
https://youtu.be/hUjYFpxh28s?t=12884

>>60773746
so what if someone gets 7700k he magically doesn't need to upgrade his cpu for next 10 years?
it's always better to go with cheaper cpu and a stronger gpu.

>>60773759
>Firestike extreme
Yeah I love playing that game.

>>60773762
>it's always better to go with cheaper cpu and a stronger gpu.
Which is why I consistently said when on a budget. It is like you AMD shills can't read.

>>60773758
True. But there is no guarantee Zen+ will be good for gaming.

>>60773766
>a bench made to beat the shit out of what ever goes against it is a bad test because it's not made to run as easily as possible.
Also, it's a real engine. It could be a game if they gave you character control.

>>60773790
Still better than having to throw out the CPU and the motherboard. 1600 is good enough. Zen+ version of the 1600 will probably be refining its voltage to lower TDP for the same IPC.

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>>60773534
Not anon, but I hope you enjoy the AussieLand experience

>>60773808
Really cool game. How many hours do you have in Firestrike Extreme? Why no use real game benchmarks?

>>60773815
>1600 is good enough
Not if you own a 1070 or 1080. Or the soon to be released Vega cards which are supposed to compete with 1070/1080.

>>60773836
>i7 locked
>415 roos
>i7K with obviously no heatsink
>470 roos
the fuck
meanwhile the 1600 and 1600X is 299 and 345 respectively
not bad for down under

>>60769098
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/C6r6Mp
r8 my piece of shit
this was my first time what did i do wrong what do i need to improve on next time =)

>>60773839
Because the way CPU's handle instructions. Those benches are made to remove as much bias as possible.
>Why no use real game benchmarks?
I showed you real game benches >>60773699 But you disregarded them all >>60773728 Because they don't show Intel winning every game.

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>>60773889
>My CPU runs the best in a theoretical environment
>Gets crushed in real world setting

Fuck off faggot. I am not going to sieve through your shilling. Either give me the info or shut the fuck up. I gave you the benchmarks, you gave me a link to this.

Will i get a noticeable fps increase by spending 20 bucks more and chosing the Ryzen 5 1500x over the ryzen 5 1400

>>60773883
Note: This completed build is pending moderation. Once approved by a moderator it will appear in the list of completed builds after being processed.
well... we got no info from this.

>>60773883
>i5
>Not 3000 mhz RAM
>1070
>Buying legit OEM software

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/C6Wv7h
check my list please anything to improve? budget is 1250€
Cooler is a Macho direct partpicker doesn't have it
Case is a Aerocool Aero-300 because no money left for a better one(if you know a better case feel free to post it for that price)
Also SSD gets bought later when she as money again.

>>60773911
What is your GPU? If your GPU is not the bottleneck yes. If your GPU is the bottleneck, not even threadripper can save you.

>>60773911
just spend the 20 bucks anon

>>60773910
Go into the threads dumbarse. They're benches that are counter posted and fully explained.

>>60773917
I got a $9 key off eBay and used the ISO tool.
This is the RAM I actually got --
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820158024

>>60773918
Stock cooler comes with thermal paste no need to buy it if you are going to use the stock cooler. Most aftermarket cooler comes with thermal paste pre applied.

>1080p
>1070
Nope. 1060 or 580 (if you find stock).

>>60773931
>Go into these shills threads and get shilled
You either post the benchmarks or shut the fuck up. I can't be bothered with lazy assholes like you.

>>60773951
As expected of a phone poster. If it's more than the length of a tweet it doesn't exist.

>>60773913
I think you can still see the parts off to the left if you scroll down a bit, maybe not but it seems like other anon could

>>60773968
Coming from someone who doesn't know how to use a comma? Yea, nice grammar there, buddy.

>>60773968
Nah I ain't going to sift through your bullshit. I posted actual benchmarks showing that even with 1080ti the Ryzen 7 can't output 144hz @ 1080p. You are like those assholes who lose an argument on 4chan and then pretend to be correct and tell others the evidence is "out there". You just have to "find it".

>>60773943
opinion discarded for being retarded build is made to last ages.

>>60773756
what?
i don't know why you are angry regardless, you should watch some anime and calm down

>>60773918
Get SSD.
Get cheaper PSU. Seasonic M12ii 520/620 should be enough.
Get cheapest 1070.
Do you really need ATX motherboard? If not get mATX.
Why the aftermarket cooler? 1600 already comes with a cooler and it's not complete shit.

>>60773987
>Gaymin at 720p 144hz every title
Ebin

>>60773983
ah. Ok. just saw that.
>building a Skylake system in 2017
Why? Kaby Lake exists. Hell Ryzen 5 exists.

>>60773988
>Build made to last ages
>Gets a 1080p75hz monitor
You fucking moron. Your monitor is easily the one hardware that will last twice as long as your entire build.

>>60774000
>720p
Clearly you are blind and retarded since the benchmarks I posted are 1080p. They didn't bench 720p.

>>60774002
I actually built it in like oct 2016 and bought the parts summer 2016 in like July, just before Kably Lake came out I think

>>60774003
1060 is going to get obsolete much faster than 1070 for 1080p gaming. 1060 can't even push some games to 60 fps right now at 1080p.

>>60774011
Yes, but if you saw the benches posted by IMG_XXXX you'd see that 144Hz is only really capable from 720p in every other title. Then he's be counter posted with 1080p benches showing Ryzen in from. IMG_XXX would throw a shitfit, Get explained to him why he's a fucking retard. Then it would start all over again in another thread.
That's why I'm linking you to archives. One can not battle autism that stong. No matter how many time you get proven wrong you'll continue on your way spurting the same bull shit over and over again.

>>60774030
Buying 1070 for 1080p is absolutely fucking moronic considering there will be cheaper cards in the near horizon that will out perform the 1070. If you can't wait and have an itch finger go ahead and pull the trigger, you are the one wasting money here not me.

>>60774051
>1080p benches showing Ryzen in front
Where do you get these mythical benches from? Every site I have been on have shown Ryzen behind to the 7700k.

What's the leanest, meanest, cheapest SSD I can get my hands on? I need a minimum of 70 GB (higher numbers will do though) and I'm not falling for the M.2 meme

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>>60774056
>tfw bought the 1070

Don't scare me like that bro. It's still running all the current games fine

>>60773996
>ssd
read my post she gonna buy one later when she as money, installing windows on ssd is retarded anyway. so no need for it instantly.
>bronze psu
no thanks also psu only costs 84€ dunno why partshiter shows 94€ prices in germany are fucked up bronze costs nearly same as gold.
>cheapest 1070
I won't touch KFA2 with a 10foot pole so this MSI is the next cheapest with 415€ ( dunno why i typed 435€)
>ATX
MSI has a promo atm where you get a free mouse with it( she wants it so I don't object because the mobo is good and only 5€ more expensive than what I did choose)
>aftermarket
because I OC that thing the moment the PC is build, also just because the factory cooler is acceptable doesn't mean its good.

>>60774003
she wants to get a 2nd monitor soon anyway which will be 144hz so this one will be not her main monitor so its ok.

>>60774083
Samsung 850 EVO to my knowledge, if you don't wanna skimp out and get one that under performs.

>>60774080
See >>60773699
Go into the threads. The links you fist find go to the poster IMG_XXX then he's counter posted with benches showing Ryzen doing better, or as good. They're typically labeled/watermarked or easily recognized as coming from place X.

>>60774056
>AYYLMAO BRO waitTM for the next GEN its gonna be much better than actualy GEN you shill xD
if somebody wants NOW a new computer and not when hell freezes in 100yrs you buy what is available NOW

>>60774103
Its a good card but it doesn't have good value.
It is overkill for 1080 but shit for anything else above. I mean you already bought it so enjoy the card but for anyone considering getting one either pony up for the 1080ti or get a 580/1060 and upgrade more often.

>>60774129
1080ti is still $700 though, isn't that kinda ridiculous to spend on a graphics card? I spent $460 on the 1070 when I first got it hoping that it wouldn't be obsolete within a few years

>>60774129
> 1070 overkill for 1080p
no its not, if you want to play everything on ultra its completely fine and that for the next few years.
the 1060 or 580 cant even produce all ultra 60fps in today's games so why you try to shill ?

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Upgrading from fx-6100 to r5 1600 and 3200 memory.

Keeping my r9 290, until Vega drops.

Will I feel the difference?

Should I OC 290? It's a sapphire vapor-x.

Should I try to unlock it to r9 290x?

Please advise.

>>60774155
>2 month old

>>60774157
you will get a bit higher fps and higher min fps but all in all the change shouldn't be that big if you play AAA titels, on potatoe games like LoL or CSGO you will get substantially higher fps

>>60774157
Yes and no. In games that require heavy physics there'll be a dramatic improvement.
But your basic navigation of your OS will be the about the same.

>>60774171
I mostly play War Thunder (pls dont judge, I just cant stop).

>>60774184
Also Red Orchestra 2 and Verdun, don't know what to expect.

Red Orchestra looked like it had fps min problems...

>>60774157
>Should I OC 290? It's a sapphire vapor-x.
YES
Go to youtube and see how it's done. Should be one program you access from windows and a few slider bars.

>>60774248
BUT BUT

I'm scared of that celsius

>>60774274
just clean it of any dust beforehand you baka

>>60774274
I'd also suggest a new application of thermal paste. But there's no need to be afraid of the heat. The performance gain is all to much worth it.
Don't forget to up the fan curve. I run my 1060 at 98% speed at 50c on a 2070Mhz clock. (base was like 1900)

>>60774248
>>60774281
>>60774295

What about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fXbsGK_cSE

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>>60774295
>98% speed

>>60774306
I don't touch flashing, as you can brick it. Unless you have dual BIOS on the card. Make sure to not over write them both.
>how I know if my card
Google.

>>60774184
>Gayjin Entertainment
They ruined a great game, fucking russians.
War Gaming ruined WoT, Gayjin ruined WT, Armored Warfare dead, too... Just wtf is wrong with russians ruining their own games. This pisses me off.

Hey guys, can you help with my budget upgrade? Right now I have very old PC, like 5+ years, since I got it, I only upgraded GPU. PC has old gigabyte motherboard with LGA775 slot and Intel q9550 quad processor, 750W power supply, 6gb DDR2 RAM and GTX 660 GPU with 3gb memory. So I want to buy new motherboard with new cpu and ddr4 ram. My budget is around 400-500 euros, and I want to spend ~250 euros on the CPU. My goal is to use PC for gaming, streaming and creating 3d modeling content. I'm deciding between Intel i5-7600k and Ryzen 5. On the one hand Intel is good and reliable, but on the other, Ryzen looks very promising. And if choosing between Ryzen 1600 and 1600x, I like 1600 more because it comes with a not bad CPU Cooler, since I have very shitty and old cooler which I will have to upgrade too. Which manufacturers are the best at making b350 motherboards and DDR4 RAM, also what frequency RAM I need for Ryzen? Thank you for help.