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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
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Don't know what to look for?
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Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
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/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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>>60755155
blackarch or kali lads?
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Obligatory watch:
https://youtu.be/wMvyOGawNwo

Obligatory read:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/
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>>60755163
Parrot Security
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>>60755315
what?
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That feeling when you go balls deep in scripting your own tools.
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>>60755354
>not knowing Parrot Security OS
ŚMH
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>>60755383
Feels good isn't it.

I remember starting with Linux where all these random shell scripts everywhere seemed so shoddy.
After some time I was beginning to appreciate it. There's something elegant about them really.
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>>60755413
GNU/Linux*
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>>60755417
not every linux based operating system is GNU my friend. I don't want to be an exclusive shithead by forgetting distributions like Alpine and such.
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>>60755435
>and such
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>>60755417
They're actually referring to the kernel, Stallman
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>>60755435
>a Linux based OS, not combined with the GNU system, turns a kernel in a complete system
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>>60755465
correct
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>>60755475
So stop calling Linux "Android" since it's just Linux.
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>>60755485
Android is actually a fork of Linux.
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>>60755383
That feeling when you go balls deep in scripting your own tools and the more you learn you realize that they will never be 100% perfect.
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>>60755493
Android is a Linux based operating system which uses a fork of Linux, the kernel.
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>>60755509
>>60755493
>>60755485

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Android, is in fact, Android/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Android plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Android system made useful by the Google corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many smartphone users run a modified version of the Android system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Android which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Android system, developed by Google.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the Android operating system: the whole system is basically Android with Linux added, or Android/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of Android/Linux.
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>>60755509
Android is an operating system based on a fork of Linux with Google's extensions.
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>>60755534
Android is an operating system with Linux installed.
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>>60755539
with a fork of Linux therefore not Linux.
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>>60755529
That pasta is stupid. Google uses a lot of independent replacements for the GNU system; the combination of these replacements doen't turn Android in an operating system. sincle "Linux" is the core part and an operating system by definition, calling it "Linux" instead of Android is correct.
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>>60755383

Well, you're only doing 1% of the work. Other people did all the hard work by creating those programs.
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>>60755583
I agree except for the part that calling it Linux is correct. Linux is an operating system kernel, which always needs certain third party parts in order to work. Calling the full system just Linux is a logical error which stems from thinking that the GNU/Linux vs Just Linux thing exists because "Linux uses GNU tools", which again leads to thinking that "a GNU/Linux system without GNU tools must be just Linux" - but actually, GNU/Linux is a combination of TWO vital (but incomplete) operating system parts, while Android combines the kernel with multiple independet single parts - a "yet unnamed" combination, or as I've recently taken to calling it "just Android" (the same goes for Alpine).
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I'm on Linux first like 3 days now.

My laptop has a known issue and I have found a solution online by patching the kernel.

The patch is in tar.gz format and the text for manual patch is there as well.

How on earth do I patch the kernel?
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>>60755730
Android/Linux, Alpine/Linux, GNU/Linux or are you running the bare kernel?

Jokes aside. Could you link the patch?
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>>60755730

By using the patch utility.
I suggest you first learn and go through a normal kernel compilation. Just compile and install your distribution's kernel. It will be easier, because you don't have to configure it (just use their configuration).
Once you get that down, it's like a minor thing to learn how to use the patch utility.
Finally, I suggest you learn how to package software for your distribution. Then you can neatly install your kernel, remove and update it.
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Post neat cli utilities. Recently discovered fzf, which is pretty amazing.
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Opinions on GNOME 3? I'm not liking it so far.
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>>60755529
>Linux Torvalds
Kek
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Is there a lean version of KDE?
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>>60756752
Lxqt is close enough
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Dolphins' black background in the icon explorer section is unaffected by gnome tweak tool appearance changes and shell themes.
Any ideas how to fix this?
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>>60755213
Reading the article gave me a bit of a chill. Maybe Terry Davis has the right idea...
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Can someone explain to an idiot how to build programs from github on antergos? I already cloned it and I'm lost now.
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There is any "modern" distro able to boot faster than win XP?
My SSD XP VM loads in literaly 0.8s
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>>60757240
Post link to program. Theres no "general" installation practice.
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>>60756752
KDE is usually a metapackage.
Basically a list of kde-related packages.
Depending on you're package manager, find the command to list packages a metapackage pulls in. Install the obvious deps and the packages you want, and let you're package manager sort out the dependencies.
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>>60757272
https://github.com/jamiemcg/Remarkable
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>>60757280
It says, it's available in the AUR, which should be the easiest way since you're on Antergos. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/remarkable/
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>>60757265
i did a test to turn my bios time to instant, and uefi boot to 0 as well, i get my loonix login prompt in under a second from hitting the power button. its actually really close to instant. i use an nvme drive
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>>60757312
Okay, the Arch wiki should do from here. Thanks.
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>>60755383
>>60755413
It's really fun, and makes you appreciate the quality of both the tools and the shell itself. Does anyone know an XML parser for pipelines, like what jq is for JSON?
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What are some cool lightweight terminal commands suitable for daily use?
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>>60757685
mkfs.reiser4 /dev/wife
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>>60757685
curl cheat.sh
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What reason do I have from not using Linux permanently? I know it seems odd to ask but outside of video games, I don't need Windows. Work does everything on Google Suite and they use Chromebooks.
I'm just curious since all I would use Windows for is a few video games.
I plan to learn coding and web dev too but I already know I can do those just fine.

So my question is I guess: outside of games, what would Ubuntu struggle with, if anything?
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>>60757977
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
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>>60757977
i don't understand the loonix has no games meme
there are tons, thousands on steam and gog
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>>60757977
Ha, if you learn C, webdec is essentially out of the question. Not many hardened PROGRAMMERS will take a liking to webdev (in more than the 'essentials' of it).

But I commend you, if you ARE determined to use Linarx as a main OS - keep in mind, WINE works excellent for most moderately 'oldish' games, and quite a number of new ones, too. You sometimes get exceptions but they don't affect anything noticably.

Get acquainted with writing your own workflow. Thats the best thing you can do. Learn makefiles, C and asm optimizations, learn vi/m, learn hotkeys, configuration/customization. Build your own "home" with the tools you can find, and create your own if usecases require.
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>>60758096
i know that - I didn't mean to imply it doesn't. I meant as "outside of a few video games that work only on Windows - I can't see a reason not to switch to Linux full time"
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>>60758149
I want something to do to kill time at work - right now I'm in IT support for a small business and they're all on Chromebooks so there's little to do. The site is done in Wordpress and they wanted me to try to help out since I did it as part of a course. Hence me curious about jumping into it from an actual career perspective. Though actual programming in at least terms of it being useful for Linux would be a godsend since I'd rather use it than a Chromebook

I've used WINE before a few years back and it was fine for the most part. I was just wondering if there's anything unique to Windows I couldn't do in WINE.
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>>60758153
>>60758056
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>>60757280

>python project
>not using distutils/setuputils for installation

Shit software.
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>>60757697

Permission denied. You have to force it somehow.
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>>60758319
>tfw I'm writing shit software right now
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is this the new meme

https://www.ostechnix.com/linuxbrew-common-package-manager-linux-mac-os-x/

http://linuxbrew.sh/
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>>60758353
>Linux system
>BSD License
yes
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>>60758353
I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with people. Why do they demand stuff like flatpack/snappy, appimage, "linuxbrew" and all this crap? Is the concept of a package manager really that hard to deal with?
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>>60757977
evreyone else in my office use Photoshop so using GIMP will make projects arkward
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Linux Mint isnt regonising my windows partition when i try to install it.
What to do?
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>>60758433
macfag normies want brews
winfag normies want installers
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>>60758433
When people are new to a system they don't understand, they tend to perceive its differences with systems they're more familiar with as "problems" that somehow no one has noticed before and it is up to them to "fix".

Like how people who are halfway through hiragana often have these bright plans on how to fix the Japanese writing system.
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>>60758433
I can think of the following:
-keeping up with the app store meme, most likely to pander normalfags
-less dependency on distro-specific maintainers, package formats and library versions. I can imagine a mpv meme package with the latest ffmpeg, libav and mpv without depending on what the distro ships. Yes, 50-100 MB but the latest versions supported.
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>>60758537
>mpv
kek
Just leaving this here:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/4056
tl;dr
> just use Windows.
> closed
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>>60758575
lel, looks I choose a bad example.
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>>60757277
I just want the bare minimum of a good desktop. I was thinking install Debian and then just install the metapackage
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>>60758575
kek! app image is ded
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>>60757697
Some jokes never die
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>>60758627
for KDE there are usually a few metapackages, like

small:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde-plasma-desktop
medium:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde-standard
full:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde-full
just fuck my HDD up:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/task-kde-desktop
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>>60758682
normie here, i dont get it
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>>60758736
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser
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>>60758744
jesus christ
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>>60758682

Unlike wives.
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>>60758744

>Known for: ReiserFS, murder
That almost reads like a satire article.
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>>60758744
creepy
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>>60759152
Never reply to me or my wife's brother son ever again!!
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>>60758575
wtf i love lachs0r now
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>>60758744
>click on wikiquotes link
>see this:

>You're about to experience chaos. [before farting in a police officer's face, while being photographed nude after his arrest]
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Is it silly to install the release candidate kernels or should I just wait for stable versions?
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>>60759526
yes
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>>60759526
Have a vm for kernel testing, preferrably mounted on a non-SSD so it doesnt rape it (that still happens, right?)
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anyone here has any idea how to use an externa sound card in ubuntu ?
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>>60760245
1. install pavucontrol
2. plug in USB sound hardware
3. open pavucontrol, set output to the USB device.
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>>60757977

Stability. I'm not using Linux because it's far from stable and I have a relatively new hardware,so I need the latest stuff.

Also, Linux isn't really any better than Windows if you just want work to be done.

Linux doesn't have a proper music player, the file manager is shit, there are ton of visual bugs.

As much as love to use Linux, it's unusable and shit.
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>>60755765
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=251911&action=diff
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>>60760430
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
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>>60760550

Fuck off with your communist shit. My computer is just a tool, it doesn't have an ideology.
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>>60759526
Are you talking about the kernel v4.12-rc4? I'm sure you're safe. But personnaly I use only the v4.11.3, which is stable.
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>>60760550
Funny how sometimes two wrongs make a right.

>Linux doesn't have a proper music player
Perfectly accurate statement as far as I can tell.

>Windows is about as usable as a bare kernel with no userland.
Might be a bit of an overstatement but I can't say I haven't felt that way sometimes.
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>>60760430
>everything you just posted
Not gomna even waste my effort logically debunking everything you just said bwcause fuck you mad cunted wankstain
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What does "proper music player" imply?
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I installed Linux From Scratch and everything works. What do now?
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>>60760937
Install GNU.
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>>60760816
a computer itself? no. but _your_ computer? yes since you are pouring your personality into it.
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>>60760892
Probably Winamp.
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>>60760937
Use it. Love it. Build things. It's your home, now.
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>>60760937
If you actually did it you would know that Linux From Scratch is not a Linux distribution at all.
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>>60760937
>I installed Linux From Scratch
>installed
kek
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>>60761033
And where did I pretend otherwise you colossal idiot?
>>60760967
I went the GNU road since that's what's in the book. I don't know if people managed to do something similar without any GNU tool but I'm fairly sure that's impossible.
>>60761009
B-but I don't know what to use it for.
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>>60761033
>thinks he's smart
>is actually dumb
LFS is literally the name you set when you follow the tutorial.
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>>60760892
cmus, only cmus;
Or any other player written in C and using CLI (cmus).
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>>60760973

>pouring you personally into a tool

What the hell. The thing is just something to get work done, not an extension of me.
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>>60761214
mpd + ncmcpcpcpcpcpccccp moy drug
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>>60761214
>cmus
>not moc
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>>60761334
>>60761315
>>60761214
Just use mpv.
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>>60761214
cmus is ncurses. It's not CLI but TUI.
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>>60761214
cmus has a graphical interface (GUI), which makes cmus a GUI player.
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>>60761366
This. Can other players even play opus? I know moc failed me.
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how can I completly de-redhat my system?
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>>60761660
cutie patootie.
is it CDE?
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>>60761660
>Im_using_Linus_btw.jpg
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>>60761843
I don't think it's entirely possible to remove all components made by redhat from a desktop installation and I'm ignoring the contributions made by redmeme developers on the kernel.

I think your best bet would be something like OpenBSD or FreeBSD.
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>>60761334
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>>60758518
awnser me you fucking cia niggers
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>>60762300
Uninstall Windows. It's malware.
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>>60762300
Install debian, mint is shitty copy of debian.
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>>60762300
install ubunut
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>>60762329
this is true
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html
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>>60758518
>8518▶>>60762300
Duckduckgo:
Grub config
EFISTUB ( much better if you have UEFI bios)
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>>60762362
pls stop namefagging
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Do I need the ext4 module if I am not using ext4 at all? Can I just blacklist it?
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>>60762870
I should add, I am using ext2/NTFS/fat only.
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>>60762419
No thank you friend
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>>60762870
sure and be sure to rm -rf /
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>>60762988
>I am using ext2

ext4 provides support for ext2 and it is actually faster and more reliable than the plain ext2 module (read in the kernel config at "use ext4 for ext2/3" option), so stick to the ext4 module and disable ext2 and ext3.

Also keep in mind that ext4 without journal exists, providing a "better ext2" for users.
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>>60763354
ebin simply ebin
>>60763393
Thank you, it appears it's already using ext4 module only.
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Any simple video editing software? I essentially want to make a slideshow of blending images with some captions and music in the background.
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>>60762020
>>60761660

>Im_using_RMS+Linus_btw.jpg*
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>>60763605

Openshot.
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Is there a legit reason to use Gentoo?
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>>60763658
you want to use a source based distro
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>>60763658
you tested it then continued using it.
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>>60763658
hardware compatibility
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>>60763657
Openshit*
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>>60764248
FUCKING THIS!!
It has the most universal package manager too!
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>gentoo maintainers

kek. dat guy is probably posting in this thread.
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>>60764346
>no time for a micro/fit/ session
>not controlling caloric intake
I'm worried about how long he'll be maintaining for.
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>>60763658
No. When they said no to systemd, they gone full retard and lost 75% of their userbase. Gentoo is in a dying state and will be part of the paste ten years from now. Portage, package manager of Gentoo, is written in python.
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Will wearing cat ears make me a better programmer?
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>>60764451
>part of the paste
kek, they're gonna get lost in the sauce?
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>tfw fell for the tiling wm meme
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>>60764500
cute socks will
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Right guys, I need help. I am using Debbian Jessie. I ran wireshark on my own laptop only to find a dodgy DNS query to d4rk4.ru. What are the next steps?
>I do not want to install gentoo yet...
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>>60764451
>t. Lennart Poettering
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What's the point of using Linux?
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>>60765013
available for free.
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Just stop replying you dumb fucks.

It's probably the butthurt 13 yo child from yesterday that spent a solid hour spamming the GNU+Linux controversy copypasta because noone wanted to walk him through removing local KDE configs so he could use his desktop again.

Jesus fucking christ you people
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>>60765072
don't get butt hurt because normies are entering your little circle.
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>>60764451
>Portage, package manager of Gentoo, is written in python.
wtf I love Gentoo now.
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>>60765013
Using a computer instead of being used by your computer.
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How can I force my compositor to use Vsync (using dwm)? I have screen tearing I didn't have using Cinnamon.
>inb4 install your drivers
faggot:computer~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes
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>>60765424
install compton
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>>60765467
Thanks a lot man this did the job.
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Any tips to beat the final mission of advance wars 2? I get over flooded by enemy units without any chance to advance on the map.
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>>60760977
audacious has a mode like this
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>>60765633
>not using Retroarch
What a fucking idiot
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>>60765633
Use Colin in the middle to group units and bait meteor strike. Use Max on the East and just try to advance quickly and build up your power, he'll be in charge of bombing the missile base. Eagle is a nice choice for the West. Draw as much attention as you can with the middle and Western fronts, and sacrifice as many units as you need for Max to get just one bomber to his target.
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>>60765633
That deadass vanilla config is horrid. Removing the useless ugly 'a' is a good start.
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>>60766017
>>60766052
why bully?

>>60766028
thank you.

>>60766052
>ugly 'a'
what is that?
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Post more pictures. This is an imageboard, faggots.
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>>60766292
Can't. No filepicker thumbnails.
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Follow-up question to my vsync one, I have set
/usr/bin/compton --backend glx &

in my .xsession file to make it start at boot, is that sane? I tried relying on systemd but couldn't find a way to make it start with that.
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Linux was cool, until I tried to burn a video DVD in fedora.
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>>60766320
Do you start dwm with startx? Then drop it into your xinitc (before exec dwm).
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>>60766374
>fedora
found your problem
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>>60766378
Lightdm is started as a service. exec dwm is in my .xsession, it didn't work when I put it in .xinitrc.
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>wanting avatarfags
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>>60766292
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>>60766500
Thanks mr Wozniak
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>>60766292
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>there are people who unironically use fedora
why do these people exist
>>
I haven't used a new distro since Ubuntu 12.04 or whatever the closest LTS was around that time.

Is Mint still the nicest "just werks" distro or has anything new shown up in the past few years?
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>>60766779
install gentoo
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>>60766221
Top left corner
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>>60766779
Debian Testing my man
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>>60766779
Trisquel
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>>60766779
install ubunut
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>>60766779
don't listen to these loosers and wannabes
install arch linux
no ancient packages, you learn linux with lightspeed and thanks to the aur, you have any software right on your fingertips and don't forget the amazing arch wiki
>>
>>60766963
>>60766963
>install arch linux
>no ancient packages, you learn linux with lightspeed
Arch is probably the easiest distro to use thanks to the AUR and also the fact that shit doesn't break so easily if you fuck with like most other distros. Vanilla packages work nicely with each other when you start patching shit it makes everything fragile. Unless you're just going to keep everything mostly default then anything is fine really.
>>
>>60766963
ebin meem
>>
Friends, JUST WAIT™ for Debian 9 "stretch."
It will surely be released on June 17 with few release critical bugs!
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why does linux lack a js api
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kubuntu > xubuntu?
for ubuntu and variants do i go with LTS or the bleeding edge 17 point somethings
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What distro would you /g/uys recommend for something lightweight and relatively easy to use for my laptop. Last time I was using Linux was 4-5 years ago and I was using Crunchbang, but it doesn't look like it's being updated anymore so I'm looking for something similar. A friend told me to try Elementary but they tried to dupe me into giving them money before I even downloaded it.
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>>60768955
bunsenlabs
>>
>>60768955
arch
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>>60768969
Kick ass, glad to see people kept it going.
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Anyone know why an Ubuntu 16.04 (Monitor attached) would boot into a blank black screen and won't respond to anything besides Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Alt+F1, etc? It is booting with some weird run level or is Grub screwed up?
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>>60768771
>javascript
>>
why can't rms lose his belly
>>
>>60769970
Your display manager probably isn't enabled. Check your services with systemctl status.
>>
>>60755155
Debian-Testing XFCE vs Xubuntu, go.
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>>60770423
All weight loss devices are proprietary
>>
>>60770467
delet this
>>
>>60770467
but what about joggin
>>
>>60770431
The machine is CLI only though so I don't know where to go from here. Nothing is standing out in the logs.
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>>60770586
The patterns for athletic shoes are proprietary
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haha lol

#!/bin/bash
#------------`
#git-mkrepo.sh|
#(interactively) makes a repository on github through curl

mkdir -p ~/Git
echo -e "New repository name: "
read REPO
mkdir -p ~/Git/${REPO}
cd ~/Git/${REPO}
git init
echo -e "\nGit Username: "
read USER
echo -e "\nRepository description: "
read DESC
echo -e "\n"

curl -u ${USER} \
https://api.github.com/user/repos -d \
"{\"name\": \"${REPO}\", \
\"description\": \"${DESC}\", \
\"private\": false, \
\"has_issues\": true,\
\"has_downloads\": true, \
\"has_wiki\": false}"
echo -e "\n"

git remote add ${REPO} https://github.com/${USER}/${REPO}.git
touch README.md
git add *
git commit -m "init commit"
git push -u ${REPO} master
>>
>>60770746
yikes the formatting wasn't fucked up in my terminal like that
oh well
>>
Hey Kevin, when is DaVinci Resolve and Lightworks coming to Solus?
>>
Just bought a linux laptop, what's a good anti virus software? I can't take no more Norton
>>
>>60755155
Is there any good replacement for grsecuirty?
>>
>>60770746
Who the fuck wrote this shit?
>>
>>60770746
>
echo -e    "\nGit Username: "
read USER

>no option to set default user
this is unsettling.
>>
>>60771263
You don't need an antivirus dingus
>>
firewalls....
anybody got some goods on firewalls?
looking at nftables-----bit beyond my knowledge level.
Trouble finding beginner level guides.
>>
>>60771268
RSBAC
>>
Hey guys, I've been using Debian and Ubuntu for about three years. What would be the next step as far as OSes go? I'd assume Arch?
>>
Help me please fglt. I installed Manjaro and everything went smoothly. I installed the updates through the OS (apparently a mistake) and shut down my pc.

When grub loaded Manjaro text appeared on the screen like normal, but then went to a black screen with a white cursor which doesn't blink, its just freezes and the Manjaro logo never pops up. Nothing ever happens.

I can get into the Manjaro terminal after putting the 3 in Linux boot options. I don't know where to go from here to fix, help /fgl/.
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>>60772020
iptables
>>
>>60772338
install gentoo
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Greetings, Gentoomen.
I have just acquired a really cheap Asus netbook. It's got a whopping 2gb of RAM and a blazing fast 1.33ghz Intel Atom processor.
Would this bad bitch be capable of running Debian smoothly? It's got Windows 8.1 installed, but I dislike it and I'd like to try Linux. I am interested in Debian because it seems well supported and comes with Cinnamon.
>>
>>60772410
What is pic related?
>>
>>60772451
Dog of Dracula 2.
>>
>>60772471
Then I shall answer the question: it may or may not work with Cinnamon. If that doesn't matter too much to you, there's always xfce or even openbox.
>>
Hi, /fglt/!

Today I installed Manjaro Linux more than 3 times and I've got more than 3 different issues that I couldn't resolve after hours of googling etc. I've been using linux on and off for 4 years, but I'm ready to give it up for good if it continues half-bricking my laptop a couple of times a week like this.

Whenever I try to get packages from core or extra repositories, mirrors time out and I'm not able to ever search those 2 in pamac, nothing comes up(community and multilib work fine for some reason). My internet connection is fine since I'm posting from my laptop now. On trying to install programs from pacman I get this type of error:
error: failed retrieving file 'protobuf-c-1.2.1-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from manjaro.cybr.ca : Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds 

How do I stop it from failing to load 2 mirrors before installing every dependency? How can I get core and extra to appear in Pamac again?
>>
>>60772485
Alright. Thanks Anon.
>>
This fucking thread has been running a shitsstorm if shit posts with some goods sprinkled in. Da fuk m8
>>
>>60772491
>My internet connection is fine
Doesn't look like it
>>
>>60772928
Okay so it's not fine but I'm somehow able to post this from the same device. Any ideas how to fix?
>>
Hello, gentlemen. Honest Linux babby here and first time /g/ poster. Why do people prefer Linux for web/software development? Isn't Windows pretty good with Visual Studio?
>>
>>60773021
Start by posting your problem on the Manjaro forum instead of here.
>>
>>60766028
i did what you said and won. thank you. now i have to find another game to play.

>>60766824
please, don't say that. awesome is a wonderful windows manager which is not cited enough. sure the default configuration is not very beautiful but it does work fine.
>>
>>60773133
THANGS FUR LE EBIN ADVIS BRU!!!!! :DDDDDD
>>
>>60773115
>gentleman
It's spelled "gentooman"
At least from the software dev side of things, linux is preferable because it's open source, allowing developers to tinker any way they see fit. It also natively supports or easily supports most languages.
>>
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BTFO
All hail Eschwartz
>>
>>60772368

Deprecated.
Use nftables instead.
>>
I feel like a faggot doing this, but /t/ is very slow. I posted this on Games for GNU/Linux:
>>>/t/774962
>>
>>60773343
archlinux users are truly the elite.
>>
>>60755155
Chrome now uses GTK3 by default, on Linux.
>>
Thoughts on Ubuntu's font rendering?
>>
>>60772491
Update your mirrorlist.

sudo pacman mirrors -g
>>
>>60773487
posers who can't use the professional software
>muh compiling time
>muh stable outdated packages
>>
>>60773133
>>60773021
>>60772491

>Start by posting your problem on the Manjaro forum instead of here.
Nothing wrong with asking here.

#manjaro on freenode could be of help to you though you'll probably have a better shot at good advice on the forums.

>>60773820
Is probably your solution
>>
>>60773709
I'm not a fan. I like many other distros have a better default look.
>>
>>60773709
What icons?
>>
>>60773933
Papirus
>>
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Which Crunchbang #! do I use?
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/
https://crunchbangplusplus.org/

What's the difference?
>>
>>60774166
Bunsenlabs. They both use the exact same packages as crunchbang but look closely at the websites for each and you'll see that ++ is an amateur and all but abandoned project. I can't believe the guy is keeping the website up.

>++
>https://crunchbangplusplus.org/
>copyright 2015
>current release 1.0 (it's been that way for a loong time.)
>no older versions
>check the github (https://github.com/CBPP/cbpp)
>It's just one guy
>Latest commit on Mar 7, 2015
>total commits only 39

>BunsenLabs
>check the github (https://github.com/bunsenlabs)
>pretty active with many recent commits
>4 people
>Crunchbang.org actually redirects to their website, I thought that was interesting
>>
>>60774541
Thank you!
>>
>>60774166
bunsenlabs is the updated one, but they completely blew it on the icon designs.
>>
I'm looking to make some GUI based programs, what framework should I use? I don't really know where to begin. GTK?
>>
I just gave a presentation on the wonders of software freedom and it went well.
>>
>>60774649
Qt. Abandon gtk asap.
>>
>>60774649
In python, I tend to use wxPython because it's slightly less arcane than some other options and, more importantly, provides a native look on a variety of platforms. See if there are wxWidgets bindings for your language of choice.
>>
thank mr stallman
>>
>>60768852
It doesn't matter, you can install any DE you want after the fact. I like Xubuntu.
With LTS you get kernel updates for longer or shit like that, I don't know. It's not like installing a different version takes long so just use whatever, back up your data and configs and switch if you dislike it.
>>
#!/bin/bash

>it's the year 2017
>this is still called a "shebang"
How is this allowed? Why haven't we progressed to calling it Xebong yet?
>>
>>60774739
>you can install any DE you want after the fact
Installing multiple DEs on Ubuntu is just asking for trouble. Some things like i3 would be fine but full DEs always fucked with each other in my experience with Ubuntu. I've had literally every well known DE installed on Arch based with no conflicts. Ubuntu is strange.
>>
Why the fuck am I having so much trouble recording my screen in KDE? I've tried kazam, obs, and simple and none of them are working right.
>>
>>60774762
hash-bang
hashbang
shbang
shebang
>>
>>60774663

You wouldn't even be able to name reasons why Qt is apparently better. You're just another idiot who wants to feel smart by having opinions about technology he picked up from other people.
Kill yourself.
>>
>>60773820
>>60773860
My solution was this:
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/fresh-install-mirrorlist-issue/25261/7

Still, thanks for taking the time to respond.
>>
>>60774991

#!/bin/bash

DIM=$(slop -f "%x %y %w %h")
X=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $1}')
Y=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $2}')
W=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $3}')
H=$(echo $DIM | awk '{print $4}')

ffmpeg -framerate 30 -video_size "$W"x"$H" \
-f x11grab -i :0.0+$X,$Y -vcodec libx264 -crf 0 -preset ultrafast \
output.mkv


Install ffmpeg and slop. Run this.
>>
>>60772193
Debian. You'll come back to it anyways
>>
>>60775213
No. My opinions are my own. Have you used Plasma lately? The resource usage is insanely low and it out performs GTK in every way now. You kill yourself little dick bitch.
>>
>>60775247

Nice anecdotal evidence. You didn't even mention anything about Qt or GTK, you compared a desktop environment with a GUI toolkit.
Even for the internet, you're embarrassing yourself majorly.
>>
>>60774598
Should be asked /g/ for logo advices
>>
>>60775256
>you compared a desktop environment with a GUI toolkit.
KDE is the result of the said toolkit you stupid fuck. It's literally the best example and showcase of Qt. Fucking retard.

>anecdotal
No it's not. It's a fact that Qt has made huge leaps in efficiency.

>you're embarrassing yourself majorly.
Nope
>>
>>60775311

>KDE is the result of the said toolkit
That doesn't matter. You can't compare toolkits by comparing completely different software written in those toolkits. If you weren't an idiot, you'd know that.
I can write a graphical Hello World using GTK and it will be more efficient and use less resources than a video editor using mainly Qt. That doesn't say anything about the toolkit itself.

>It's a fact that Qt has made huge leaps in efficiency.
Give examples. You can't, because you have no knowledge about the toolkits. You're just an idiot who thinks that by using software other people wrote he knows everything about its internals.
>>
>>60775379
>can't compare toolkits by comparing software written in those toolkits
Lmao. Okay buddy.

Stop posting.
>>
>>60775407

You can compare the same software which has different front-ends using different toolkits. You can compare Wireshark. You can't compare KDE's Plasma to GNOME. Hint: there's no significant difference.
You're offering no arguments or logical reasoning. All you're doing is reinforcing your subjective opinions.
>>
>>60775412
>You can
>You can't
I can do whatever the fuck I want to

>You can't compare KDE's Plasma to GNOME. Hint: there's no significant difference.
Yeah there fucking is

>You're offering no arguments or logical reasoning
>All you're doing is reinforcing your subjective opinions.
You're projecting
>>
what's the most minimal DE?

I basically don't want it to have anything, I just want to have something like
xterm &
exec DE
in my initrc and from there load up videos in mpv

or is it possible even to do without a DE and just xserver?
>>
>>60775561
https://awesomewm.org/
>>
>>60775561
TinyWM I think.
>>
>>60775561
>or is it possible even to do without a DE and just xserver?
Yes absolutely. But I think without any tweaks or additional software you would be limited to a single graphical application per session.
>>
>>60772193

Fedora.

I use the Xfce version. I used to run Debian Sid on my laptop and Stable with backports on my desktop until I got my new job, we work with primarily RHEL/CentOS or FreeBSD machines and the security guys recommended I run Fedora. Never had any issues and the up to date software is fantastic and refreshing when coming from Debian.
>>
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beware the redhat shill!
>>
Recommend me good monospace font pls
>>
>>60775805
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface

i have a preference for Fantasque Sans Mono
https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans
>>
>>60775561
>in my initrc and from there load up videos in mpv
You can open videos using mpv without even needing an X server.
>>
>>60775835
Hmm.. Some nice ones, thanks!
>>
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For some reason zooming is fucked up in my Firefox. I assume I changed some setting, but I have no idea what.
Webm related. It should zoom the whole page, including divs and images, not just increase the text size.
Running Firefox beta on Arch, and it works on Windows.
>>
I have a fragile ego and am tired of someone always making fun of my distro/de. I've switched many times but someone always has some smar comment.

So what is the distro/de that will guarantee respect from /g/?
>>
>>60775948
the one i'm using
>>
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>>60775944
>>
>>60775948
gnu guix
>>
>all these people running old Linux
>>
>>60775944
about:config -> browser.zoom.full -> true

OR

View -> Zoom -> Zoom Text Only

>>60775948
Source Mage GNU/Linux.
>>
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>>60775990
Thanks a lot
>>
>>60775984
anything newer than 4.1.x will
-run my CPU fan at max speed
-while not setting my CPU to the max speed, leaving it at the half-speed mode
-cannot reboot or shut down my laptop, after the kernel is done with procedure, it just freezes

thank dog it's LTS.
>>
>>60775984
Why would I run new If my hardware is not new?
Unless there are security concerns that need to be fixed there's absolutely no benefit to running the latest versions.
>>
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-big-steamos-update-that-drops-amdgpu-pro-in-favour-of-mesa-has-left-beta.9789

kek, amd on suicide watch
>>
>>60776074
But why?
Don't amdgpupro driver get better performance therefore more beneficial to anybody who wuold even consider using "SteamOS"?
>>
What's the best vi key addon for Firefox?
Currently using Vimperator, and I don't like how it takes over the link hover text. I've also used VimFX, but I'd like a bit more ability to customize.
>>
>>60776039
Linux 4.12 fixes BTRFS RAID5/6 and mâles it actually usable. New features are always cool.
>>
>>60776194
Try out pendadactyl. I don't know which one's best, vi keybinds are shite
>>
>>60776209
>>60776194
Pentadactyl is about the same as vimperator. You won't see much of a difference between the two.
And there's nothing between vimfx and pentadactyl, though you better get used to vimfx since both pentadactyl and vimperator are going to die.
>>
is it possible to make different users have different colors when posting in hexchat alternatively what is the best IRC application for ubuntu
>>
>>60775232
Some suggestions.

Either use #!/bin/sh for more speed, or if you insist in #!/bin/bash, use here-strings:
awk '{print $1}') <<< "$DIM"

Uppercase variables are bad practice, run env to see why.

To put variables in strings, do it like this:
-video_size "${W}x${H}"

You forgot to quote -i :0.0+$X,$Y, additionally you can make the display more dynamic: $DISPLAY holds the current display number.

You could make the outpuf filename more dynamic, give it a chan-style unix time name:

"$(date +%s%3N).mkv"

Enjoy.
>>
>>60775805
Terminus
>>
>>60776264
VimFX seems to be on death's door too. I haven't read the whole thread, but this looks bad.
https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860
>>
>>60775984
>all these people running blobbed Linux
>>
>>60776565
I guess if people could, they would, but the hardware manufractors don't let them.
>>
>>60776565
>tfw bought my laptop 10 years ago, before taking the GNUpill and during the ndiswrapper age

I'm kinda glad I can get away with just two firmwares (radeon+b43) and don't have to use any proprietary crapware drivers.
>>
Thinking about switching from Debian (Sid) to Devuan, anyone using it? Any fundamental things I should be aware of? Is the unstable version recommended for Sid users?
>>
Hi guys,
I'm currently trying an iot framework called zeta.js (https://github.com/zettajs/zetta)
However when loading the package (with requier() ) once I installed it with npm, i get the following error :

util.js:989
throw new TypeError('The super constructor to "inherits" must not ' +
^

TypeError: The super constructor to "inherits" must not be null or undefined
at Object.exports.inherits (util.js:989:11)
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/anon/Workspace/zetta/hello-world/node_modules/spdy/lib/spdy/connection.js:86:6)
at Module._compile (module.js:571:32)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:580:10)
at Module.load (module.js:488:32)
at tryModuleLoad (module.js:447:12)
at Function.Module._load (module.js:439:3)
at Module.require (module.js:498:17)
at require (internal/module.js:20:19)
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/anon/Workspace/zetta/hello-world/node_modules/spdy/lib/spdy.js:20:19)

I can't find the cause of this :-/
>>
I am fucking around with manjaro on a vm
Can anyone help me with this?
>>60772878
>>
>>60777058
>>>/g/wdg or >>>/g/dpt
>>
>>60777158
That's conky. Open a terminal and run "pkill conky" to get rid of it. You may also want to remove it from autostart.
>>
>>60776442

Noice, thanks.
But just one thing, how can using "sh" make it faster? Also if it makes it faster, it will be negligible.
>>
>>60777259
sh runs whatever shell liked to /bin/sh in posix mode, which turns all non-posix extensions off, which makes the script execute a bit faster

for ex. on arch is runs bash in posix mode, on debian it runs dash
>>
new thread when? :3
>>
how do i enable my laptop to act as a wifi hotspot?
>>
>>60778172
Maker it yourself, but do it after bump limit.
>>
>>60778218
1. open a search engine
2. enter "<your distro name> create wifi hotspot>
3. find a good guide, follow the steps inside
>>
>>60778172
now: >>60778259
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