/pcbg/ - PC Building General

you forgot to add the GTX 1070 line you doofus
delete and remake while you have the time

Ryzen 1600x
Asus Crosshair Hero 6
Flare X 3200 8gb+8gb
RX580 Saphire Nitro+ 8gb
Acer XF270HU 1440p Freesync monitor

I already have SSD and Hardrive, is this a good 1440p gaymen PC? Is Freesync worth it?

>>60747898
Freesync is pretty good indeed as it ensures no tearing & smoothness even if you go below 60FPS for a short amount of time
Without Freesync it'd be either getting tearing when without v-sync, or stutter with it

>>60747898
Why do people go with the most expensive board?
Isn't the Taichi the best AM4 board overall?

>>60747898
looks good

>>60747898
Good for 1440p but not the best.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Jmv7h

Hello everyone what's your opinion on my build? Should I go for it? Any recommendations?

>>60747898
Freesync is a meme. Get a high quality IPS panel for the same price as these shitty 144hz TN freesync monitors. That gpu will barely be able to hit over 60 fps maxed out in 9/10 modern games anyway at 1440p.

>>60748105

Wait™ for Vega :^)

>>60748105
this cooler won't do much
The 1600x is already near it's max clocks (4.1GHz), and you can do a 4GHz overclock on all 6 cores with a much cheaper $60 cooler or such because it doesn't heat that much
can save money on SSD
is good otherwise

>>60747769
>combining LEDs
Not funny, my sister died that way

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jMwHtJ

""""Budget"""" Gaming Build Mk.II
HDD, Case, and PSU will be recycled from previous build. Any room for improvement?

what is the best/cheap way of getting windows 10?

Any good books on EE?

>>60748201
The pirate bay

>>60748163
Just make sure to get 8 gb more of ram later on.
Programs are using more and more RAM as technology goes forward.

You should be fine, for now.

Also an SSD is recommended.

>>60748268
Thanks, I had considered each of those and likely will get them down the road

>>60748125
Depends on the games you play.
For Doom, Overwatch, and esports it is just right.

For AAA games, the 1070 is better overall at 1440p

Is this worth buying?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N1KKKO5/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496623464&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cooler+master+cpu+water+cooler&dpPl=1&dpID=51aTgc%2BK6mL&ref=plSrch

Is it worth hunting down the latest version of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB for a new computer?

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>>60748820
No, get a big sized fan instead(biggest your case can have) and 2 prefereably(at the front) and get a normal sized for the exhaust at the back. Depending on your case you mgiht experiment a bit.
Why?:
1. Bigger fans barely make noise
2. Do crazy cooling thanks to more air going through case

Water coolers are shitty, overpriced and nobody uses them besides people that are gullible to """pc gaming""" marketing strats

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jvh83F
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jvh83F/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.49 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($49.88 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza - SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Asus - Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($52.88 @ OutletPC)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($11.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $487.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-04 20:55 EDT-0400

>>60748924
Well my evo 212 is about 5 or so years old hoow long do heatpipes last?

>>60747898
>580
Good luck finding one in stock

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>>60748882
Nah, just use your current license if its a windows 7, 8 or 8.1
Otherwise pirate one of those windows versions.
Microsoft is doing a full 360 on the LTSB version, dont even bother with, microsoft is dead. Just use their older versions till newer games dont work on them anymore then just go back to linux. Microsoft is a joke and will become obsolete in 20years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WDXJWX

Im going with g4600 because I want to do gpu passthrough in the future. Or is the igpu in 4560 good enough?

>>60748960
That's pretty good for the price but why are you getting a soundcard & CPU cooler?

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>>60748962
Don't really know but if it still works and your temps are stable I don't see a reason why you should upgrade, its kind of waste of money if that cooler can go hard for atleast another 5 years. Like buying a new mouse because your old one was 5 yrs old.

Unless you're rich, then go ahead and get somthing new so you can have that 5degrees C lower temps even though your cpu will function the same.

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>>60749044
>he doesnt use a cooler on his soundcard

Anyone know how to get a phanteks cpu cooler AM4 mounting braket?

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Upgrading from my FX-6300/M5A78L-M/960 2gb build. The PSU and storage are being carried over, didn't bother including the latter though. Wanted to get the 580 but that ain't happening anytime soon it seems.

Anyways, would I be seeing a worthwhile overrall performance upgrade from my current build? Not just with gaming but with multatasking and encoding/rendering.

>>60749144
contacting their support

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Thoughts on this build would be greatly appreciated:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVjKVY

I'm addicted to spending money, any recommend upgrades?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3QnrBP

>>60747886
I wish people would take the time to learn how to delete things on this site. It's two damn clicks.

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>>60749145
You'd see a decent performance increase but it'd be a bad choice because both the R5 1500x & 1600 would be much better at rendering, encoding, multitasking & gaming than these overpriced 4 core 4 threads CPUs going by the name of i5
Ditch the i5 & mobo, go R5 1500x & b350 mobo. A320 is fine if you don't intend to OC, and upping to an R5 1600 is much better because of two extra cores & 4 extra threads.

>>60749145
Ryzen is better
Get dual channel RAM unless you are plan on upgrading.

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>>60749145
>DDR4-2400
>micro-ATX
>1060 instead of 580
>80+ bronze psu
Have fun with your overpriced set and longterm high electricity bills

>>60749249
580 uses more power than 1060
80+ bronze is perfectly fine

>>60749249
>>60749254
Higher rated PSUs is just to have them run cooler, so that they're quiter.

bronze/silver/gold/platinum has nothing to do with how good the power supply is, it's just telling you the efficiency,

>>60749217
If you must get Windows 10, get it from Kinguin where it is 25 dollars per key. Or if you prefer even dodgier sites, allkeyshop sells Window 10 keys for 5 bucks.

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Looking to purchase a new mobo/psu.

whats boppin on the market right now?

currently working with an i5-3700k and a gtx 950.

thanks boys.

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Repost since the last thread died

>>60749413
Nothing that'll fit an i5.

>>60749411
I already have everything on this list, looking for upgrades

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PIC NOT RELATED, FOR ATTENTION

So, I know my bearings but i'm still
pretty new to PC's building.

I drew up a pc on PCpartpicker
however my friend told me the
Architecture is bad.

What does this mean and how do i go about fixing it?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/h2Mgcc

>>60749445
What the fuck do you want to do with this?

Why a R5 with an X370 board? Are you supposed to be budget or overclocking garbage?

>>60749225
Is there an A320 build you'd recommend for a 1500x? I was looking at doing a Ryzen 5 1500x build but I heard there were issues with some mobos not running well with them. There are also few reviews of any a320 mobos anyway.

>>60749449
Everything looks great. Looks like a pretty new build as well. What are you looking to upgrade? I mean your monitors could use some upgrading since they are still 1080p60hz. You can afford to get 1080p144hz monitors or a 1440p60 one.

>>60749471

Trying to aim for budget, but mid tier budget.

Assume that the R5 is more important than the mobo and that choosing MOBOS is a pain in the ass

>>60749461
He probably meant the CPU. Get Ryzen.

>>60749461
Architecture refers to the CPU/motherboard socket

Yours is ancient and to upgrade will be to replace nearly every part you're getting here.

If you want Intel, look for a Z170/Z270 or H110 board

If you want AMD, go for a B350 or X370

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>>60749446

what a bummer. is the ryzen worth buying into? looking to do some vidya with a bit of video editing.

>>60749461
You want either the Pentium listed in the OP, or an R5 1500X budget depending.

Where can i get a goddamn list of EVERY GPU of the most current lineup being compared. I want to see how shit or not shit a blower gtx1080 is without running into a fucking Text to Speech youtube video from Russia.

>>60749445
just get a prime b350 plus or msi b350 pc mate and up to a 1600 with the money saved

>>60749493
X370s are enthusiasts boards. B350 are budget.
NVMe is bad for boot times, if that's what you want it for.
Use the extra cash exchanging the mobos for two sticks of 2933 or 3000Mhz RAM

>>60749497
>H110 board
At least get a H270 board man

>>60749461
He meant that the CPU architecture is shit which is right, this 7850k could be clocked at 5GHz with ten cores i'd still be pretty shit
Get a pentium g4560 instead with a cheap b270 mobo or cheaper

>>60749514
Just look at any benchmarking site?

>>60749533
You're right, I'm stuck in the past.

>>60749499
Yes, especially the video editing. Ryzen does everything very well. 1600 build will get you what you want without breaking budget.
Really everone prettymuch walks out of here with a 1600. Even builds that typically require a Xeon.

>>60749499
An R5 1600 (6 cores 12 threads) would be a worthwhile upgrade.
Anything cheaper wouldn't be worth it, a 7600k wouldn't be worth it, and you'd get worse performances with an i7 in video encoding / editing until the $400+ ones
R7 1700 is not worth it for you because you're just doing a bit of video editing instead of a lot

>>60749497
Alright so iv\e gone for the the <SI B350, and ive changed the RAM to some DDR4
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pcsgcc

>>60749573
At this point he might as well save money on the CPU, go for a G4560 and get an RX 470/570 instead
Also, getting a PWM fan case doesn't make much sense, pretty much any mobo allow for custom fan curves anyway

>>60749573
What is your budget? christ dude

Is there a good place to buy used components other than ebay? Because I'd rather not have to deal with ebay. or paypal.

If I have to deal with ebay can I just sign up and go buy something or are people going to refuse to deal with a new account with no feedback?

>>60749606
Depends, paycheck coming through at the ed of the month, so like max 800, heres a build i was thinking of,
>>60749597
changed to the 570


https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8kJq2R

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Well that's annoying, anybody know of a cooler that's small and doesn't require extra brackets?

>>60749556
>noctua on a sub $600 build
NO!
1500 only if you overclock. But the stock cooler with it is a little underpowered. So that makes the 1500X kinda mandatory unless you have a cooler that you can get a free AM4 mounting kit.

>>60749678
1400* only if you overclock

Is the gtx 1060 still a viable option for playing new game releases on high settings for the next few years?

>>60749669
>that's small
Define small, is 165mm small?

>doesn't require extra brackets?
Nope

Just pick up a 1600 and use the wraith cooler or spend two weeks mailing a support person your receipt in hopes of brackets.

>>60749718
yes

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>>60748105
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Jmv7h
>$800 monitor
thats how much my entire build costs

>>60747886
Not OP, but it's been hard to come to a consensus on what to put for the 1070.
It's ~$400 yet only ~25% better than the $215-$230 GTX 1060.
The GTX 1080, on the other hand, is what like 37% better than the 1070 for only ~30%-35% more money?

1070 is bad price/performance and a niche card.
I think the issue is a lot of people severely underrate the performance of the RX570/1060 6GB/RX580 and should be getting one of them.
Nvidia marketing has it in people's head that $170-$260 is somehow a low end GPU price when they do 1080p at 60-144fps fine depending on the game and most people use 1080p. And really, they higher end ones of those models are pretty damn good for 1440p so there's no point in spending so much more for the slightly better 1070 there either.

If someone is sure they need more performance than those 3 mainstream cards, they should be looking at the GTX 1080 instead of the 1070 in almost all cases. The vast majority of people who have been putting a 1070 in their builds have not known what they were doing so it stands to reason that it maybe shouldn't be in the OP when it requires so many qualifiers to explain when it's a good or bad buy.

>>60749722
thanks magic eight ball man.
should I get the gtx 1060 instead of the 1070 then if I plan to use some piece of shit non-144hz monitor in this build?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WLLn4C

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWD2M8
Any tips to either make this build cheaper without sacrificing performance, or improve it without substantially increasing the price?

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Morning /g/

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JHy7JV
Thoughts?

>>60749787
yes

>>60749881
can i suck that eight ball dick?

>>60749887
no

>>60749880
up to R5 1500x or down to g4560, but 1400 is a very meh CPU and performs pretty much the same as a g4560 even though it costs twice the price

>>60749909
Does it???? dont know much mind you im new to all this,
but surely a 50 pound cpu can preform on the same level as a new release 150 pound?

hey guys, im new to the pc building world. i tried to learn as much as i could in one day but i realized that money is a hude deal when you want something nice. i have a low budget and ive come up with this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ChHKVY

any suggestions? if i could save money or if i just dont know what im doing (most likely) please let me know

>>60749946
g4560 is more around $75 and the 1400 can indeed outperform it decently in some workloads, but games isn't among them.

>>60749957
i forgot to mention, my plan is to build a low budget gaming pc

>>60749957
where's the graphic card?

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Critique this build please boys.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QQ4hNN

I downgraded from the 1070 to the 1060 realizing that I probably don't need all that power. Have I made a mistake?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N9tbQV
My first build, bestow with the wealth of your knowledge anon.

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>>60749957
>buying an operating system
>ever

>>60749978
no

>>60749980
The GTX 1050ti is pretty low end, doesn't make much sense to pair a 1600 with it. Up to a 570 and downgrade to a 1500x / downgrade the RAM if you're lacking money.

>>60749957
>>60749967
Alright. I do have suggestions.
Drop the WD Black drive. It's fairly loud. Replace it with a Seagate 2TB HDD for near the same price. If you don't want 2 TB of storage, get a cheaper WD Blue for under $50

The next thing is Ryzen NEEDS a Graphics card. Ryzen has no integrated GPU, nor dodes the motherboard, so you need a graphics card.
I recommend an RX460/560 4GB or a 1050Ti as a stopgap until you can afford something better.

>>60749976
shit, that takes me way over budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nyh83F>>60749976

>>60749992
thanks man
i'm gonna suck that dick one day

>>60748218
even win 7?

>>60749957>>60750013
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/79gHtJ
upped the price but more efficient

>>60749992
The plan was to use the 1050 until Vega is released, or save up for a 1080, bad idea?

>>60749980
for the price you're paying, drop the 1050TI for an RX470/570

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgvCnn r8

>>60749978
>SSD
PNY or a Kingston UV400 are much cheaper.
Make sure it's matted aluminum case for Kingston, the others are trash.

>>60750038
That's not a 1050Ti, grab an RX460 or RX560 4GB model. They're better performing and have more vram

>>60750017
Get a G4560 instead of the 1500x & up to a 1050ti
Get a $50 WD Caviar Blue instead of WD black
You can do budget gaming fine on 8GB
don't buy windows

>>60750058
wut case m8

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>>60750067
>They're better performing
No, both get outperformed by GTX 1050 & Ti unfortunately

>>60750058
looks good to me but no case

>>60749876
Anyone?

>>60750066
I looked those both up and they're only ~$5 cheaper and are only 240gb. If either of those are strictly better then I would switch it out though.

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>>60750076
removed the
cheap psu

>>60750075
>don't buy windows
This is something I forgot to mention.
You can download a windows installer into a 4 GB flash drive off Microsofts website.
Install it off the USB stick, then buy a product key from Kinguin for $30.

>>60750091
Can't go cheaper without sacrificing performances noticeably

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>>60749556
>>60749567

wonderful advice. thank you.

>>60749714
>>60749714

this is my list right now.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FX8v7h

i've put the case/gpu for reference. should i switch out the 1600 for the 1400 and ditch the hsf?

i currently own a EVO Hyper212 from a previous build, would it be a hassle to get a mounting kit?

thanks again

>>60750101
oh. you again
>top mount power supply

So how hard is it to actually put a computer together with 0 experience?

>>60750097
Oh, you've got a larger SSD. Continue on.
I'm used to seeing EVO's ect.

>>60750047
Isn't the 470 more of a sidegrade?
And I thought the 570 was out of stock everywhere.

Reviews for the Nixeus 27" 1440p 144hz Freesync monitor are out. Seems to be really good for a $400 monitor. But I think it's $500 MSRP now that the preorders are over.
https://hothardware.com/reviews/nixeus-edg-27-ips-freesync-144hz-gaming-monitor-review?page=1
Not sure how this compares to the MG279Q.

>>60750105
Neat, guess I'm done then.

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So this is my current build,
Is it even upgradable?
Should i jsut salvage parts and build a new rig?

What do you think?

>>60750130
thanks dude
also, how do you feel about my build? is it alright? My budget is ~1600 cdn

>>60750120
>should i switch out the 1600 for the 1400
No, but you can go 1600 instead of 1600x and remove the cooler
You should also get more RAM if you can because 8GB is generally recommended only for budget builds and video editing & encoding generally uses a lot of RAM.

>>60749976
>>60750013
>>60750038
>>60750075
>>60750103
alright guys, thanks a lot. you guys are awesome this is my final result

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9pYr

>i should get the newer one, it's only $15 more
>but wait the better one is only $20 more
>oh no, the best one is only $40 more
and thats how i ended up $500 over budget

>>60750138
no. The 470/570 is about 70% better than a 1050Ti for not much more money. The 470/570 competes with the GTX 1060.

>>60750181
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9pYr
Do you have a HDD laying around? with most AAA games now a days youre gonna need a lot more than 120GB dude

>1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX570s)

what did OP mean by this? is 1060 a bad choice?

>>60750181
here. I dropped $10 off and got you better performance.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bGppYr

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>>60750215
No, but the RX 580 is usually more recommended because it usually performs better in newer API / newer games (pic related is percentage difference)

>>60750201
he can always add a WD Blue later on. It's only $48

>>60750215


Check this

>>60749749

>>60750215
Compared to a 580 yes. The 580 outperforms 1060 in majority of games. And the 580 has 2extra gigs of vram

>>60750167
If you get a cheap case, and drop the SSD you might be able to jump up to a 1440p monitor and 1070. Maybe a cheaper PSU, stay on common brand names PSU's tho.
You can always buy a SSD later. Better hardware is always the better investment than a SSD.
If that's not an option.
Try to find a RX580 8gb card. 1060's are 'trash'. But due to demand/supply issues they're hard to come by for their proper price.

>>60750164
Bump cos i need answers

>>60750263
Oh wait. I suck cocks. You'll need a bigger PSU. So it's going to be tight.

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>>60750290
>I suck cocks.
anon, not here...

>>60750225
>>60750201

how about now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XRDFnn

>>60750164
I think you could get an 860k which is like.. 2.5x better.
And you could get like a.. idk.. used 270X? or an RX560, or GTX 1050? Any GPU more powerful will be bottlenecked heavily. by the 860k.

I think you'd be better off getting a G4560 or 1500X and an RX570 4GB if you can find one.

860k and 270X should cost under $100 total.
1500X+RX570+mobo+RAM like ~$400.
I'd really recommend a new PSU, too, which is another $40-$55.

>>60750215
1060 is just inferior price/performance, and lack of Freesync support, to the RX570 or RX580.
But since RX570s and RX580s are mostly sold out, a 6GB 1060 is not a bad choice as long as you don't pay too much for it (<$215-$230 is a good price)
The RX cards are especially better in that they tend to be better in newer games. Yeah the 1060 does better on 3+ year old games on average, but those are all games that have lower requirements and the RX570 will run well anyway.

>>60750313
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XRDFnn
All looks in order here, all i can say if you wanna save a couple bucks you can swap the ram for some G.Skill Ripjaws otherwise good luck senpai

>>60750313
now you need a power supply. Seasonic has a fully modular 520W unit that's great for like $52.
Seasonic and EVGA are the go-to names for a PSU. You want 80+ Bronze minimum and either semi-modular or fully modular. Don't cheap out here. A PSU is the most likely component to fail so spending a bit here for a reputable name and reputable quality is worth it.

>>60750037
Windows 7 is very cheap, just search for a reputable site, I think I got a Win7 Ultimate key for around $20 around 2 years ago

>>60750350
Swapping for Ripjaws would mean grabbing slower, worse performing memory. That currently is the best deal on fast 16GB memory kit there is at the moment.

>>60750239
>>60750243
>>60750263
>>60750325
Thank so much. So this is the final product, does everything look ok with the RX580 in there?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/d6CkKZ

>>60750195
Seems like both are sold out everywhere, what's the next best option?

>>60750325
But with these upgrades, what sort of FPS am i looking at, like cos if i want somewhat 720/1080 gameplay then would i be better making a new one?

>>60750387
The 1050Ti. the 1060 3GB is not worth it, and if you step up to the 6GB model, the RX480/580 exists with 8GB memory for not much more. The only nvidia cards worth buying are the 1050, 1050Ti, the 1070, 1080, and 1080Ti

>>60750352
fuck i thought that was in there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HR2n4C

sure would help if i had a damn job. thanks a lot though haha. i really appreciate all the feedback

>>60750382
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/d6CkKZ
All good but i got two queries,

The moniter should be better if youree going for such a powerfl GPU

The mouse and keyboard look really takky and cheap, upgrade to a ROCCAT or something if youre spending 1.5k

>>60750313
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XRDFnn
You can get the ASRock Pro4 for cheaper and it's a better board unless there is some feature on that Gigabyte one that you really want.

And IMO $126 is too much to pay for an RX560. It's like 60% the perf of an RX570 which is $170-$185.
An RX560 you want in like the $90-$105 range to make sense.

I also don't understand why you're not going mATX. Much smaller and cheaper cases.

>>60750382
Why not drop the HDD and get the 525GB version of that SSD instead? Do you really need over 500GB in the near term?
I'd also just get an RX570 for 1080p if the savings are significant. RX580 is not that much faster in 1080p but generally a lot more money.

>>60750387
6GB 1060 or 4GB 1050Ti.
In the US, ~$115 is a good price for a 1050Ti and $215 for 1060.

>>60750440
Looks good! Enjoy!

>>60750382
Yep, everything's good.
If you play many games you may want a larger SSD.
500gb is usually more than enough. I'm on <500gb RAID 0 system and still got 100gb left.

>>60750446
I don't want to spend more than $250 CDN ($185 USD) for a monitor. If you can find a good one for under that I would really, really appreciate it.

>>60750457
i was hoping to upgrade in the future mainly, or is that like out of the question?

>>60749445
>Single Channel 8 GB RAM, and only 2133mhz paired up with a Ryzen
>Ryzen 1500x instead of 1600
>X370 Motherboard in a budget build
Rest is okay I guess, get a good $80-90 B350 motherboard and use that money to at least get a Ryzen 5 1600, stock cooler is enough to overclock it a bit. Use rest of the money or add a bit more to get 2400mhz RAM or better, or at least Dual Channel.

>>60750475
Keep in mind you want at minimum 10% of total storage free.

>>60750482
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=M2J71AT&opt=ABU&sel=MTO

Shop around for the right price, its a very good moniter even at the same res

>>60750457
>I'd also just get an RX570 for 1080p if the savings are significant. RX580 is not that much faster in 1080p but generally a lot more money.

Not him. But the 8gb does have a significant gain. Look at RE7 benches. And also is a OK pathway for 1440p.
>>60750382

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Alright, update to my build, Went cheaper with the GPU and a proper MOBO and CPU.

I must say not including a stock cooler with 1600X is absolute Judaism.

>>60750513
I already fixed it

>>60750527
Good luck getting a 580

>>60750552

I got plenty of time to wait, The drop of Vega should open up some opportunities.

>>60750496
upgrade what? I don't know what you're refering to.

>>60750522
I agree that RX580 is great for 1440p if you can just drop some settings to high in higher requirement games. Plenty of games it'll play 60fps+ maxed at 1440p. My old 7970 still plays lots of brand new 2017 games maxed at 1920x1200 60fps, so it's easy to understand why the like 40-80% more powerful RX580 does 1440p fine.
But that person had a 1080p monitor in their build, that's why I recommended the RX570 instead.

>>60750527
Why no SSD?
If you actually have those GPUs in stock where you live, I'd drop down to an RX570, maybe a cheaper case, and get an SSD instead of HDD. Being bottlenecked by disk i/o sucks ass. It being the noisiest thing in your case also sucks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/73PNHN

Looking for improvements, hopefully to get the budget under 1k.

>>60750580
>I also don't understand why you're not going mATX. Much smaller and cheaper cases
>upgrade what? I don't know what you're refering to

i was under the impression that a large tower would allow me to upgrade is what i meant, sorry.

So if it's so difficult to get an RX 580, what's the next best alternative? shieet

>>60750616
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/73PNHN
See no problems my man, all is well

>>60750618
Upgrade WHAT?
What are you planning to populate those PCIe slots with?
mATX tends to have at least 2 x16 slots and 1 x1 slot as well as 2 m.2 slots. 99.99% of people don't use half of that, let alone more.

>>60750616
Not utilizing dual channel will bottleneck you. Unless that DIMM is dual rank, I didn't check.
I'd also drop the HDD and get a 500+ GB SSD instead.

>>60750653
shit, honestly im not tech savvy, this would be my first time building. im here cause i just dont know. i tried to learn as much as i could in one day before coming here and ive gotten suggestions. what im trying to get at is, so youre telling me get a smaller case, go 8g ram instead of sixteen gig and get a smaller mobo?

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ATM I have a radeon 6700 2gb graphics card. Would buying either of these be worth it or could some one suggest something for me?

>>60750580

Would you recommend M.2 or should I stick to normal SATA when it comes to SSD?

What is the current price/performance leader for thermal interface material? Last time I had to buy some, arctic silver was still new and exciting

FUCK I really don't want to spend $200+ on a monitor. Anyone have a good one for around 150?

>>60750805
If your motherboard and drive support nvme, M.2. will give you RIDICULOUS read/write bandwidth. It's definitely worth it.

The OP has a superstitious hatred of this new technology. Ignore the luddite.

>>60750805
go with a normal Sata. Unless you're doing an ITX build, an m.2 holds no benefits.
>but m.2 is faster
only if it's a more expensive NVME drive. If you buy a cheap one the same price as a normal 2.5" SSD, it will disable one of the Sata connectors on your motherboard, and use that lane from its m.2 slot. The only m.2's worth it are more expensive, and even then, you won't really notice a difference

>>60750850
pretty soon only absolute chinkshit m.2. drives won't support it and you shouldn't be buying chinkshit from literally who anyway!

>>60750805
If you want it to take less space, sure? Thermals are sometimes worse which means it'll throttle sooner, though.
This anon: >>60750847 doesn't know what they're talking about.

>>60750653
>Upgrade WHAT?
>What are you planning to populate those PCIe slots with?
>mATX tends to have at least 2 x16 slots and 1 x1 slot as well as 2 m.2 slots. 99.99% of people don't use half of that, let alone more.

alright, so i downgraded what i could. the smaller mobos arent that much cheaper than the one i picked so i didnt bother changing. but the case i went to a mid and then i downgraded the graphics card, its specs didnt look that much different from the rx560. hows it look now?

>>60750965
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gs6dTH

forgot to add link

>>60750147
MG27Q doesn't even beat Acer 1440p144

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DbbpYr

In AUS, looking to reduce costs. I know the motherboard could easily be changed. I was just trying to find a semi decent base to work from.

Mainly to play vidya. But I'm worried should I bother switching to AyMD with all thats been going on recently

>>60751099
Don't bother switching to AyyMD. You won't get a 580 till at least July and that is if you are lucky and manage to get one in the restock. If not, you have to wait till end of July at which point the Vega will be out.

>>60750738
460 has better performance so get that, 4GB are wasted on the RX550 and the only good thing is power consumption over the 460

Will a GTX 1070 be bottle necked by a Ryzen 1600?

>>60751203
No. Any modern day CPU provided it is isn't gutter trash won't bottle a GPU in a long time.

>>60750738
GTX 1050 or ti would be better

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Could someone explain the structure behind PCH-provided PCIe lanes?

I have a motherboard with 2 4x slots derived from the PCH. Do I actually have full bandwidth between the two, or is it shared such that only one device can run at full throughput at a time?

>>60751099
No need to change the GPU
Some saving possible on SSD (get a non samsung one) and PSU (550w is perfectly good)
Don't get an i5 man...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gs6dTH
how we feel about this?

If someone doesn't help me find a decent monitor for $150 RIGHT NOW i'm going to shit in my mouth

>>60751218
But... Thats Nvdia.... I dont like change.

>>60751264
USD or....?

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>>60751266
>i want hardware that performs worse because i like the brand
are you a homo or something?

>>60751264
how much u tryna spend? how big u want it?

>>60751290
>>60751274
USD, how do you guys feel about this shit
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236335

>>60751264
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#sort=price&page=1
start looking
>>60751293

you can find shit slightly smaller and alot less

>>60751278
No i am just saying that because "I dont like change". I am probably less than average on hardware tech knowledge and i stick with what i know.
I didnt mean that to be hur dur i am a faggot meme quality. I just didnt think i would get and actual response of another "brand"

>>60751318
Well it appears that amd failed at being competitive in the < $150 price range this gen, so unless you see the 560/460 discounted you should really go for a 1050 or 1050ti instead

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>>60751307
I don't know what to get though. I just know it has to have something called IPS because 10000 people have told me that in the last hour.

>>60751342
here, theyre all ips
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xMkD4D/asus-monitor-vs229hp

s://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NtCmG/asus-monitor-vs239hp

if you really want 23'' theres the second one

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>>60751338
These are my options..
What are the differences between them other than price?
People keeps saying MSI is best but you might as well tell me to go straight onto neverland.

>>60751004
RX 550 is terrible value, and a 120gb SSD is practically useless.

At minimum a RX 560 or GTX 1050.
Skip SSD, that's something you can upgrade in the future... Since you wanted to keep open for upgrades.

>B350M Bazooka
>Fractaal Design Define C Mini /without window (or if you're waiting a while, phanteks is coming out with p300 tempered glass).
>EVGA 500B

>>60751410
thanks anon, I like the first one.
looks like I wont have to eat my own shit tonight

>>60751432
>120gb SSD is practically useless.
Why?

>>60751426
In before MHz i know that my current GPU has 800Mhz so i was really wondering if shit mattered or go for the cheapest.

i love every single one of you anons
I came in completely clueless and now I have my dream build

seriously you guys are fucking great

>>60751460
You can fit your OS, and one game. Most of them also have terrible read/write speeds, not too much better than regular 7200rpm hdds.

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Alright, switched from the i5 7500 to the Ryzen like you guys recommended. It only brings the price up 15 bucks thankfully.

So it's ok to get a 1060 if there are absolutely no RX 580's in stock, r-right?

>>60751426
The difference is clocks, component quality & cooler
But it doesn't matter at all for such a low end card so just get the cheapest

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>>60751483
happy to help you, anon

>>60751533
Absolutely, just see >>60750239 's picture, on average there's not that much difference

What is the best brand of 1080?

What's the cheapest, passable gpu I can get by with until Vega is released?

Not playing any modern AAA titles, just shit like Civ 5, Terraria, maybe some Mass Effect 1-3 and Borderlands.

Currently using a potato and I don't want to suffer anymore.

>>60751499
wow that's weird where I live I've made r5 1600 build about 200$ cheaper than i5 build.

>>60751251
any feedback on this please? just want to know how much difference that vid card will make opposed to rx560

>>60751499
Not gaming pro, go bazooka/mortar/tomahawk.
Or Asrock b350 pro4

>>60751634
It comes out in 3 weeks anon...

>>60751665
Sure, that's what they always say.

How do you choose a motherboard?

>>60751499
>It only brings the price up 15 bucks thankfully.
If you don't want the price to go up you can always get a A320 motherboard instead, as those don't offer overclocking and are as such quite cheaper

>>60750965
>>60751004
You can get decent $20-$30 mATX cases. That's $30 of savings.
Boards are usually $5-$30 cheaper as well.
You still have a full ATX board there.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762 for example is $5 less. Or you could just not bother with the rebate and it's the same price.
No one said it's a lot of savings. It's SOME. The $35 you save is the difference that means you can more easily get a 500GB+ SSD if you drop the HDD entirely for more savings.

Rosewill SRM-01 might be a nicer case. idk.

>>60751217
1080Ti gets bottlenecked by any CPU in a good number of (shittily programmed) games.

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>>60751709
That was the plan when I first thought about an R5 overhaul, but I'm not sure which A320 to get. Not many have any reviews at all, at least on the usual places. I was asking in here earlier for a recommendation.

>>60751217
*unzips stellaris*

Why are all the rx 570's sold out everywhere?

>>60751732
>1080Ti gets bottlenecked by any CPU in a good number of (shittily programmed) games.
True but that is with unlimited frames. Even with a CPU bottleneck, 1080TI + any modern CPU should be giving you more frames than you need.

>>60751777
coin memers

>>60751777
Jews

>>60747769
I'm thinking of adding a 250 gb nvme ssd to my ryzen build and a samsung pm961 is a great deal right now, but in some reviews I see around they don't recommend it even though it performs close to the 960 evo, why is that? It costs around a 110 $ where I live while the 960 evo is around 150 and I'm kind of on a budget. Strangely enough, the same capacity sata 3 ssds are around the same price here too so it actually is a good deal to get an nvme ssd. Anyway, can someone bring some light to the risk I'll be taking with a pm961?

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>>60751792
Call Trump. Get cryptocurrency banned in the US. Watch payout drop to 2 cents per unit. It's just for buying drugs online anyways.

how good of a gamin pc would it be afte all that?

So I'm calling bio star tomorrow to find out for sure, but maybe somebody here knows off hand. I am looking at getting Biostar TB85 Ver 6.x and looking through its supported CPU list, the Pentium G3258 is not listed in any revision. There's no reason it shouldn't work as they're both LGA 1150, but I don't want to have to buy a CPU just to flash bios or have support.

>>60751859
meant this for u


>>60751732

>>60751824
>It's just for buying drugs online anyways.
That's not true!
Sometimes it's used for credit card fraud.

Is 1070 really necessary or should I downgrade a little bit?

>>60751891
1070 is trash, you need at least a Titan XP

>>60751891
completely unnecessary. get the rx 580 or the 1060 if you can't find one.

What would be good enough upgrade to justify it while also not spending too much for r9 380. I'm slowly having troubles keeping 60fps even when I lower settings.

>>60751769
I just looked at a few motherboards and for it to be worth the price you can only look at the very cheapo option ASRock A320M-DGS but if you intend to get a new AM4 CPU in the next 3 years it'll be very meh as there CPU power slot is 4pin instead of 8, you won't be able to power a very beefy CPU with that.
The others i've looked at (those that are on pcpartpicker: MSI A320M-GAMING-PRO; Asrock A320M Pro4; MSI A320M-GRENADE) are pretty good all around, with the Asrock Pro4 standing out of the lot thanks to 4 Dimm Slots; 2x M.2; pretty good VRM. But at this point, you're way too close in price to b350 boards (~$10) for them to be worth.
I'd say stick to a b350 board which will serve you well in the long run, and you can always buy a cooler and overclock in a few years when you feel the need to with both the cooler and motherboard useable fo the next CPU upgrade.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shj7JV
Anything to improve? Budget is $900 including the monitor.

>>60751965
>1500x with cooler
Go R5 1600 without cooler instead

>>60750358
any links?

>>60751809
Bump. An answer to this would be greatly appreciated

>>60751859
A 1500X and 1050Ti or RX560 would be good. It will require turning down settings to like medium-high in some games to stay above 60fps with that GPU. But most games still look good on medium-high.

For the amount you're spending, really good. But not as good as having an RX570 would be, obviously.

>>60751891
1070 is the worst value card.
If you're on 1080p and just a 60-90hz monitor, there is virtually no reason to get more than an RX570 4GB or 1060 6GB.

>>60751965
That cooler is no better than the stock one. It can cool better, but only at the expense of more noise. At 95W of cooling they have roughly the same sound level.
Try and get at least DDR 2666 memory.
And you can get the Seasonic 550RM for almost the price of that PSU.

Looks fine otherwise, but I'd drop the HDD, and put the cooler savings toward getting a 500GB+ SSD like the SU800 or MX300, whichever is better price/gb at the moment.

>>60751965
If you can't go over budget then do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cKcv7h

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pb4tBP
Anyone have any suggestions in terms of mobo? I found this super cheap one but I'm not sure if this is something I should go cheap on. Just need this for a vidya build.

>>60752022
The pm961 isn't that close to the 960 evo
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-960-evo-pm961,4737-2.html
However the difference isn't worth $40 unless you're doing productivity stuff.

My god now AMD shills are deleting Nvidia cards from the OP. You can be sure there will be no green left once AMD releases VEGA, no matter how good it performs they'll always find a way around trying to justify why AMD "is beating all competitors".

>>60752186
>>60749749

>>60752196
Why are you linking me to a pile of shit?

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>>60752186
>mid range nvidia 1060 removed in favor of Radeon cars with better price to performance
>bitches about nvidia being deleted
Nvidia shills everyone!
Hey fucktard. There's more nvidia cards recommended than Radeon. The 1060 isn't worth shit. get over it.

>>60752013
>>60752028
>>60752075
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tkgmhq
Alright, thanks for the help, how's this?

>>60752201
because that's most likely the reasoning used for removing that line, though i don't agree with it.
you can always put it back next thread:
>1070 - 1080p@90-144hz/1440p@100+hz

>>60752214
The way you're replying to me makes it very obvious, anon. Besides I have no idea what you're babbling about regarding the 1060, it's still in the OP and it's less expensive than the RX cards at the moment.

Now go back to 9gag with your nauseous image and typing habit.

>>60752216
is 500gb enough space for you?

>>60752214
the 1060 and rx 580 are so similar it's not worth the headache trying to get your hands on the 580.

prove me wrong.

quite ironic AMD is always pushing the "we need diversity" but is now trying to censor nvidia products, killing said "diversity"

>>60752248
Honestly, it's more than enough.

>>60751792
>>60751799
Why those cards specifically?

>>60752257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2HJUSdfu24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwZqXGdzHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_0_jeHWK98
http://www.nvidia.com/object/fy15-diversity.html

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2W83F

What about this build?
A friend of mine is selling me his RX 580 for US$200

Will it bottleneck with the G4560?

>>60752256
and if you compare lower end 3gb models, the 570 is better.
once the miners stop buying shit in bulk, the RX series are better value. get over it. but that is not the point. The point is you bitched all the nvidia cards were removed. I see more nvidi cards up there than anything else.
Fuck off.

>>60752292
the g4560 will bottleneck the 580
why are you getting a cooler with such a low end CPU?
$200 for an used RX 580 is really jewish. Do you know if it's the 8GB of 4GB version?

>>60752298
>once the miners stop buying shit in bulk, the RX series are better value
no one knows how long this will take. better, cheaper cards may be available by then so what's the point of waiting?

it makes more sense to get an nvidia at this point in time, especially for anons like me that want to game over the summer and dont want to waste time.

>>60752312
It's the 8gb model, I'm sure.

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I wanna be able to push a R5 1600X to 3.8-3.9 GHz at least. What sort of a CPU cooler should I be looking for?

>>60752319
Still pretty jewish, those goes for $230 - $240 brand new
You should tell him to lower the price or go for a GTX 1060 6GB instead.

What type of voltages should I expect to set for a Ryzen 5 1600 oc to 3.7/3.8 GHz?

>>60752313
granted, but don't bitch nvidia is off the list. They aren't. Don't even imply it. Quit making excuses for your dumbass statement.
We are not AMD shills
We are shills for the best performance for the dollar.

>>60752332
Ok, thanks. I'll try to lower the price then
The G4560 will have do the work for now, until christmas I hope.

>>60752329
Bumping this question. I dont know the answer, but i hope the cooler master masterair pro 4 is good enough

>>60752360
that anon wasn't even me, we have no conflict friend

>>60752347
3.7GHz should be easy to do on 1.235v to 1.25v unless you lost the silicon lottery really hard
At 3.8 there is a possible chance you hit the voltage wall, which happened to me with my R7 1700 so i have to put mine at 1.35v

>>60752216
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tkgmhq
>>60752261
You should be able to get the MX300 or SU800 for that price.

Looks good besides that.

>>60752015
Kinguin

>>60752091
A lot of people here listed it on their builds so it can't be that bad.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v7MdTH
Anything to do differently? The budget is $1300.

>>60752332
>>60752363
Well desu the 580 is impossible to get now new thanks to miners so a $30-40 discount on retail price actually isn't a bad offer if the card is in a good state, and if its his friend if anything happens with the card they can send it for warranty and get a new one.

>>60752521
Looks good

>>60752521
Looks good enough.
I have that MX300 and two of that WD hard drive, both are good.

>>60751956
Ah okay, thanks a lot anon. Those ten bucks are probably worth spending to save me a hassle later on.

Quick thank you to all the anons who've given their time an knowledge.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PqsCnn

I'm finishing up my build, and it's looking good (unavailable 580's aside).
I'm going with a ASrock Pro4 mobo, but the specs say that it only supports memory up to 2666. I have 2x8 3200. Is that going to limit it? Should I swap out the mobo? Is the memory overkill anyway?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PXhJWX

For 1080p medium settings gaming. All good?

>>60752570
Go 2x4 on the ram. Also a case might be a smart investment.

Is the 1050ti good enough for illustration?
I might have to go with this since it's available locally since i can't be bothered waiting for a month and don't want to deal with bureaucratic bullshit.

>>60752598
I planned on leaving it open to add another 8gb stick if I felt the need. I have a case.

Anyone have any good newegg coupons?

>>60752566
It's going to run the memory to 2666.

What is the best Ryzen motherboard for less than $120? I have been checking different review sites and a lot of them seem to be shit at something (Gigabyte shitty LAN, ASCock max 2666mhz, etc).

>>60752566
>Is the memory overkill anyway?
For gaming, yeah. Unless you're doing 144hz.
Looks good to me

>>60752742
Anything with a VRM heatsink and supports the Mhz RAM you'd like.
Overclocking is a different matter I'm still to touch due to backlog.
But identify power phases. How many it has. And if they're not true phase. There's one board that looks like six. But is actually 3.
This guy may have already done a board you're looking at.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ
PCB breakdowns are the ones to look at.

>>60752275
Good computation to price ratio

>>60752656
You will feel the need immediately since 1 stick of SR drops your 1% minimums over 20% in memory intensive games compared to utilizing dual channel.

>>60752742
Probably the mATX B350 Prime one. But the Pro4 and some MSI boards are also decent.

>>60752827
>Probably the mATX B350 Prime one.
no VRM heatsink.
>>60752742
I personally stand by the Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3, since it has the best audio of all the B350 boards.

Any 7 PCI-E x16 slot workstation MB that support Ryzen?

>>60752840
>Onboard audio
A DAC is so fucking dirt cheap now there is no reason why you should be using onboard audio.

>>60752827
Which MSI boards are decent?
>>60752840
What about the GA AB350M version? It's a bit cheaper, but it has only gotten up to F4 BIOS (same as ATX but Gaming 1) compared to F6 of the ATX version 3

>>60752857
Kindly explain?
Is a 40$ sound card worth the difference?

>>60752857
explain please. new to pc building. never heard this mentioned before.

>>60752860
>What about the GA AB350M version?
no. cuts to many features and there's only 2 ram slots.

>>60752275
AMD relies on raw hardware power while Nvidia relies on optimization and bribing game developers. The latter does no good for computation. Nvidia only whips out the real hardware for serious business cards, which a Chinese guy stealing power from a hospital for his memecoin farm can't afford.

>>60752975
I'm convinced regarding the BIOS update, but what features are removed and why would I need more than 2 RAM slots?

>>60752953
>>60752966
https://www.whathifi.com/advice/dacs-everything-you-need-to-know

You can buy a 20 dollar USB DAC and it would be superior to your onboard audio 90% of the time.

>>60752966
It's an optional extra to appease the screeching noises they hear, that totally isn't autism.

Im putting together a pc with an i7 7700k and im wondering what i should do for cpu cooling.

the pc's for gaming but i dont plan to use cpu intensive activities often.

>>60752857
it's still the best. only other b350 I would suggest is the prime plus if you need the 8x8 xfire.

>>60753012
212 is still good. Although folks here recommend the H7

>>60752840
>no VRM heatsink
unneeded when you have actual quality VRMs.
There are lots of OC records set on that board.
The problem, however, is the stupid as fuck PCI slot arrangement.
An x1 immediately under the x16 instead of above it. Can't use a 2 slot card with both x1. With a 2.5 slot card you can't use any of them. Retarded.

>>60753012
144hz gaming?

>>60752860
>which MSI boards are decent
The cheap ones. anything better than the Gaming 3 mostly has the same 4 phase decent VRMs. While the Gaming 3 just has 3 phase, but is still fine for a 4 or 6 core and might only cost you like 25MHz.
Their $115-$170 boards have the same VRMs as their $80-$115 ones. For cheap boards, they are decent, but for their pricier ones they are bad.

>>60753012
>7700k
I recommend a 180w TDP cooler minimum and to delid.
As far as which, just pick the one you like the most.

>>60753033
One better than the other?
>>60753059
yes

>>60753059
I have a 7700 and a 1080ti. My current monitor is a 1440p. Thinking of going 144hz 1440p. Is 144hz gaming that CPU intensive?

>>60753033
212 is definitely not enough for a 7700k. It's not enough STOCK if you get unlucky (which is common) and need to delid.
There's people with $100+ AIOs idling at 50C+ which loud fans. A 212 Evo is sure as fuck not enough unless you're for sure going to delid. But spending $30 on a delid kit and only getting a $25 cooler is fucking retarded, too.

>>60753073
> Is 144hz gaming that CPU intensive?
Can you fucks literally not google this? Does the answer not come up?

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27KB, 516x604px

Well I just dropped a grand total of $1400 USD for all of the equipment. I am super excited.

>>60753071
>Gaming 3
Wait are you talking about Gigabyte or MSI here?

>>60753073
Yes, getting a constant 144hz even with a 7700k can be hard at times.
And the 7700k rarely ever makes sense outside of that use.

>>60753084
I have a 7700 non-k and I use a 212 just fine.

Help!

I have an E1-2100 motherboard whit a 1GHz cpu (integrated in the board).

My budget is 350$ which cpu and board should buy?

>>60753092
MSI.
Gigabyte's VRMs on all but their top end boards are super fucking garbage.
I don't think the dual BIOS feature and shit is worth it.

>>60753104
The 7700k is 50% hotter, dude.

>>60753100
Just get kike sync and you will easily float 120-144hz with no noticeable difference

>>60753116
R5 1600 and ASRock AB350M Pro4 or ASUS B350M Prime or whatever other board you want.
$55 left over.

>>60753117
Ok
MSI B350M PRO-VDH AM4
MSI B350M Bazooka AM4
MSI X370 Gaming Plus AM4
Which one of those 3? Or are they all shit?

>>60753124
With 8GB RAM (that he'll be forced to use), there's no leftover

>>60747769
But what about white LEDs?

Remember to add
>1070 - 1080p@90-144hz/1440p@100+hz
in the next op

>>60753212
On low, maybe.

>>60753129
No Mortar or Tomahawk?
Gaming Plus might be okay idk.

Just pick the one that has the features and slot layout you want.

>>60753138
Ok. 1600 on sale for $180
ASRock mATX Pro4 $75
Team Dark DDR4 3000 2x8GB $95.
That's $350.

>>60753212
The only fucking games the 1070 does 144fps minimum on besides 2007 games like CSGO is Overwatch and Rainbow 6 Siege.
So no. That's misleading.
That's the problem and mostly why it's not in the OP, that there are too many ifs, buts, and qualifiers for when the 1070 is ever a good purchase. It's usually not; tech illiterate idiots just think it is.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXNFnn
should I get an x370?

>>60753033
biggest problem with the hyper 212 is the really bad fan, put your CPU under load and you can hear it scream
another problem is how annoying it is to install

>>60753298
Because it doesn't have constant 144fps on all AAA titles doesn't make it a worthless buy. Even if it dips into 120fps it's still very good bang for the buck as you can have some 1070 for 350 bucks out there.

>It's usually not; tech illiterate idiots just think it is.
Quit parroting your dumb catchphrases, it doesn't make you look smart, and kill yourself while you're at it, stupid mongoloid.

>>60753298
>That's the problem and mostly why it's not in the OP
You realize it's not your thread? Because you've had it opened for a few months now and tried so hard to manage it doesn't make it yours. This is not how 4chan works.

>>60753354
1070 is for morons.
1060 if you are on a budget
Otherwise splurge for the 1080ti.

>>60753404
RX 580 if you're money conscious and educated

>>60753404
>you're a moron for buying a $350 GPU that fits your needs when you can buy one for $750-800
?
Do you realize you aren't always forced to run your games in full ultra? Do you realize it's perfectly fine to not constantly be at 144+FPS on a 144hz monitor?

580 and 1060 aren't that less expensive and are already showing limits for big titles. A 1070 will last you much longer than those two.

>>60753434
>if you're money conscious and educated

>AMD shills at it again with the pretentious catchphrases

>>60753434
580 if you are lucky and manage to find stock you mean

>>60753354
No it's not when you don't have an expensive Gsync monitor, you tard.
Most people have a 60-75hz one.

See, this is who the 1070 is made for: morons like you that have no idea that their video outputting higher FPS doesn't make their monitor display it if their framerate is too low. You've just illustrated this perfectly.

>>60753367
You have no argument. Bye.

>>60753436
The point is getting 580 and 1060 and upgrading more often than getting a 1070.

>>60753470
I just ordered one from a somewhat shady online store. I can't wait to get robbed.

>>60753449
stop calling everyone a shill you idiot

>>60753493
You mean refurbished after it broken down due to insane overclocking?

>>60753485
And anyone who can afford a fancy Gsync monitor will get a 1080ti anyway since they cost about the same price.

>>60753485
>You have no argument. Bye.
My god, how old are you?

http://www.legitreviews.com/cpu-bottleneck-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-tested-on-amd-ryzen-versus-intel-kaby-lake_192585/5

Why do people recommend Ryzen again when Ryzen can't even do 144hz @ 1080p with the 1080ti?

>>60753577
>no optimization
>HURR IT'S WORSE AT EVERYTHING!

>>60753610
AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU seems pretty bad right around this time, where's that really extensive Tomb Raider benchmarking with the driver update for AMD GPUs

>>60753610
Mankind divided was partners with AMD. You can't blame optimization if the game you sponsor can't even shit out 144 frames with your best CPU while overclocked.

>>60753577
???
The only CPU that can is a 7700k, nothing else can, not even a $1800 intel CPU
Besides, no one has a 144hz screen.
When someone wants to go 144hz, people usually recommend the 7700k. But very few people go 144hz.

>>60753642
He was most likely referring the fact that it's a launch benchmark.

>>60753642
>Mankind divided was partners with AMD.
close but no cigar.
Mankind Divided partnered with RADEON to work with RADEON GPU's. They did not optimize for Ryzen, but for Radeon.
Next retarded argument please.

>>60753645
I think the 7700 non-k can do 144hz as well since games are heavily single core reliant and on turbo they are only 300 mhz behind.

>>60753671
Except Radeon GPU's are known to excel with DX12 which operates with more CPU overhead meaning they should have optimized their game with MOAR cores in mind rather than single core performance.