/pcbg/ - PC Building General

First for Jew Miners causing a shortage of 580s

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Does it matter which brand/model of 1050ti I buy? Are there any recommendations or should I just grab the cheapest one? I mostly want it to be quiet and cool.

Second for one of them jews and enjoying my money and your suffering

>>60754276
Just buy cheapest when one is on sale for a sane price. $135 is not a sane price. Sometimes you see them for $100-$115.

>>60754276
4gb
>I mostly want it to be quiet and cool.
I can barely hear my OC'd 1060 at 98% fanspeed. Over my other case fans.

>>60754276
Aesthetics is the most important. Buy the one which matches your Mobo color

>>60754297
I know you think you're being funny. But it's a 1050 ti, so you're not in the wrong at all.
>>60754276
Don't worry about clocks speeds either. Go to youtube and search for Jaz2cents GPU overclocking vid.
All you need to do is download a program and play with slider bars. No going into BIOS at all. All done from windows.

>>60754318
>I know you think you're being funny.
Implying. I bought MSI cause they were the only ones who had red coolers on their graphic cards.

>caring about colours and LEDs in your PC
Underages need to fucking leave and stay leave.

>>60754347
Red makes your PC go faster.
Green makes your PC energy efficient.
Blue makes your PC cooler.
Yellow is dangerous so don't fuck with that.

Someone post that infograph before morons like this anon gets hurt.

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>>60754290
>>60754293
>>60754297
>>60754318
Thanks!

>>60754365
Oh. Get one that requires a power plug. They overclock.

>>60754376
>His GPU doesn't run on passive power
Get a load of this moron.

>>60754386
>not placing a pyramid made of copper and quartz under your GPU
>not only does it stop card sag, it powers it too

>>60754364
What about purple leds?

>>60754422
Banned by Mike "Electric Fence" Pence

>>60754422
Gives your computer the aids virus.

Looking into some of the lower priced motherboards. What exactly is the difference between the ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard and the MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard? They're similar in price.

>>60754445
Pro4 has better VRMs and... can't you use your eyes to see that the PCI slots are different? Or compare their specs? Newegg has a tool built in to compare specs iirc.

>>60754445
The Asrock one looks better in every respect. Better power delivery, more RAM slots, an extra M.2, more fan headers, better connectivity etc. If they really are closely priced, the choice is obvious.

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>>60754225
How dubious are those Windows 10 keys I see going to under $10 from sites like ebay and psngames.org? They claim to be legit by saying stuff like they come with a broken motherboard or laptop for local pickup, but will email you the windows key.

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Wanna jump on the ryzen hype thread and am looking on the 1700/1700X.
Is there a reason the X version is so behind in sales?
It's just 20€ more here, but I'm seeing it mostly more successful at reaching the infamous 4.0.

Also is it even smart to buy ram now, with the absurd prices and rumors of ddr5 around the corner?

How much better would getting a 6-core AM4 to replace my 6-core AM3+ be than just keeping my current mobo and getting the 8-core AM3+

>>60754948
I supsect they're from farms of Bizspark accounts. The keys can get revoked pretty easily when Microsoft catches them.

>>60755128
How are these codes different from the ones on Kinguin that go for around $25?

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I have a really tight budget after I bought a new graphics card for an old i3 530 pc I wanted to revive and I don't have any money for a hard drive now.
S-should I even c-consider buying a small (around 250gb ) used one?
I will check for bad sectors and anything before.

>>60755143
Practically the same shit. Keep in mind these keys aren't actually for resale or personal use, no matter what the seller says. They're for startups.

>>60755158
That's pretty tight. But shouldn't be much issue if it's just to get it running till X point in time. Still try for a new one. Seagate is pretty cheep.

Why does my ryzen 5 1600 runs 3.4 GHz on all cores when I stress it? Shouldn't it run 3.2 GHz? It's not OCed.

>>60755158
If you buy off of ebay it's fairly safe. eBay always sides with the buyer in disputes, so if it's a brick you'll get most of your money back. You will have to pay to ship it back though I think. I sold an old CPU that the buyer I guess thought was a different one and had to accept the return.

>>60755227
Turbo frequency?

>>60755182
I think I'm going to take the chance and buy one. Worse comes to worse I'm out $5. I'll be happy if it works until I have more money for a legit key.

>>60755245
I thought that boost applies only to one core?

>>60755227
1600 is 3.2 to 3.6 boost

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>>60755204
Yeah it wasn't any better even before buying the GPU. Being a poorfag is hard.
>>60755244
I was actually thinking about buying it locally because this way I could check it before.
Would eBay be even a better choice?

>tfw ordered all remaining parts this morning

I'm excited, first time builder.

>>60755287
you're going to make the CPU fall and it will break in two

>>60755267
Depends. Don't know how long you could return it for, but it would be a better option if you were worried it would crap out after a bit. I think maybe your idea of getting locally might be better as long as you get the chance to run HDtune or something before buying. Some sellers might refuse to let you into their house though to test it in case you might want to rape their dog or steal something.

>>60755257
You've been buying intel for far too long.

>>60755257
It's something like 3.2 base, 3.4 all cores, 3.6 max boost on a single core. Turbo fluctuates.

>>60754948
They CAN be legit.
However they can also be deactivated by the seller and resold.
I prefer getting off Kinguin or something, which is like $30 with purchase protection, because you can get your money back if they do that.
But.. ebay from a reputable seller tends to be fine, too. I think they're around $12 there.

>>60755227
The all-core turbo is a bit higher than the base. It's just not as high as the 2-core one.
I think the 1600X and 1800X actually run at 3.7 or 3.75 all-core when stressed and not the 3.6 base.

They will also drop down to 2.2GHz if near a complete idle.

>>60755333
3.6 is on 2 cores and really it goes up to 3.7 because XFR.. really shitty marketing not advertising the XFR max speeds. I really have no fucking clue what AMD marketing is doing most of the time.

>>60755287
>ordering all at once
Literal worst meme ever.
You can save like over 25% off the total build cost by waiting for limited flash sales for each part, compared to buying them all at once.

>>60755428
I saved 20 bucks on the gpu, 20 bucks on the ssd and 15 more on the cpu. I'm fine, thanks. I bought all these parts before on sale.

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>>60754948
I've only been looking into this for a few hours, but I was thinking of installing windows 7 and registering it using Daz Loader. After that I would upgrade to Windows 10 with the link below.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Has anyone had any issues with using a pirated windows 7 to upgrade to 10 and had their licenses revoke?

>>60754445
Not him, but I've largely been stuck between the ASRock and the MSI motherboard for my Ryzen build.
I've heard that the ASRock supports only up to 2600MHz RAM while the MSI supports higher, should that really make a difference in my intended use for it (gaming, productivity, workstation)?

>>60755572
from specs:
>Supports DDR4 3200+ (OC) (Ryzen CPU) / 2400 (A-series APU)

/pcbg/ thoughts on the Intel Core i7-7800X and Core i7-7820X?

>>60755143
Buying from Kinguin lets you get protection and other bullshit to protect yourself incase the key gets revoked. But with 5 dollar keys, you have to be revoked 5 fucking times before you break even.

>>60755618
Looks like I was braindead, thanks.
Also would the AIO I'm planning to buy (Corsair H100i v2) work with the ASRock, and if it needs a special adapter, where can I get it?

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>>60755652
If the motherboards aren't priced autistically, and they without a doubt will, it could be good
i'm pretty worried about the jizz & under the IHS and power consumption though.

Moving from [email protected] to r5 1600, while keeping my old r9 290, will I feel the difference?

>heroes of the storm
>Red Orchestra 2
>War Thunder
>Path of Exile

>>60755731
AMD is the flavor of the year, just buy AMD until Intel gets its shit together, which will be soon, Intel never lagged behind for long.

>>60755731
So if it is good AMD is fucked once again and relegated to the midrange CPU range once more?

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>>60754225
My mom runs a business and currently uses an old shitty laptop for her accounting software. It's been fucked for awhile, but now the monitor and presumably the hard drives are starting to go. Any suggestions for a new laptop to fit her needs for $500 CAD or less? would be nice to have a warranty since most of her shit tends to break.

>>60755778
It's not good.

This whole situation reminds me of what AMD was trying to do with fx-9xxx.
With recommended water cooling and pushing the arch to the limit, it's just shameful.
But like I said intel will bounce back they always do.
I mean if AMD could bounce back from FX disaster, anyone can.

>>60755814
forgot two comas, whatever...

>>60755778
Threadripper will shit all over the 10+ cores i9 because of much lower power consumption, heat output, much more PCIe lanes
The 7820x will shit over ryzen most likely thanks to quad channel & arch improvemet over 6900k (broadwell e - skylake + higher frequencies), but it too will heat a lot; isn't very power efficient and most importantly, the threadripper 10 core will compete with it at a lower heat output and at most likely equal power consumption. Remember that the 1800x is priced at $470 and the 7820x at $600: AMD isn't going to leave such a gap in there when even at $650 a 10 cores threadripper would be very very competitive to the 7820x as it obviously will perform better.

I can't see any of these CPU being price worthy. They'll heat a lot just like Kaby Lake, they'll use more power, and they'll cost much more. It also hurts their reputation a lot because everyone realised they've been ripping off consumers for years, everyone is realising how rushed this shit is, everyone is worried about the 7700k heat issues being ported to 6+ cores CPU, everyone is pissed off by Intel forcing you to pay a premium to unlock features already in your CPU (usb dongles for raids), and fuck these 12+ cores i9 aren't coming out until next year

it's shit

>>60755814
inb4 intel spends 300 more millions into diversity

>>60755797
A nice sturdy lenovo (new wave thinkpad). Try for something with an i5 at least.
They're sturdy, and aren't of a 'dated' design.

>>60755732
please answer this question

>>60755778
I bought Intel this gen and yet I can tell you those i9 and shits are total crap. Forget about them. I hope they crash hard.

Inb4 Linus but if you have 15min to spend watch this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

>>60756015
7700k?
I fucked up and got impatient and got the 7700 instead of saving for another month. It isn't half bad I guess.

>>60756011
I don't know about Red Orchestra 2, but you won't see a huge difference in the rest.

>>60755770
>Intel never lagged behind for long.
They lagged behind for 8 years straight.
That was longer than AMD lagged behind with Bulldozer up until Ryzen (6 years)

>>60756035
Yeah 7700k. I initially hesitated a lot between the 7700 and 7700k because I have no need for overclocking (and to be honest no one really should either, that thing already does everything you want at 4.4Ghz on all cores) and ended up picking the k version for both the higher clock speed and the fact that Intel's stock cooler is the worst shit ever. So if I anyway had to buy a new cooler the choice was really obvious to me. I'm not trying to make you feel bad about your buy or anything, just speaking frankly. You still have 4Ghz on 4 cores and 4.2Ghz for single core needs so it's still pretty much the same for now.

What are your daily temps?
Here : 38°C idle, between 50°C and 65°C when gaming, rare random spikes at 70+°C. Max temps I got out of it when stress testing it hard were 75°C. I'm at 1.164v (true value after droop, not the one set in the Bios) and I'm still lowering it every couple days trying to find a sweet spot.

Intel are fucking jews and I wish I could've went Ryzen to support AMD but the 7700k just fulfilled my needs better (emulation), especially when at the time Ryzen was still very new and unknown to everyone. For sure if things continue that way I'll go AMD next time I need to upgrade though.

>>60755732
Yes.
Those are close to single threaded, and the single threaded performance on Ryzen is like 30-50% higher.

I play HotS and PoE and got a huge improvement going from an i5-2500k, which is better than your FX CPU, to a 1600X. I saw a big improvement, though part of that was getting an SSD as well and the faster RAM.

>>60756111
I live on the equator so I reasoned that I shouldn't get the 7700k since overclocking meant that I had to invest in a really good cooler. On hindsight I should have saved the money to get the 7700k.

My daily temps are insane btw. 7700 idles at around 45°C and hits low 70°C. (Stock cooler FTW) For comparison my Asus 1080ti Strix idles at 50°C.

I got intel for the same reason you did. Better emulation. Maybe I should have waited for Ryzen or saved for the 7700k. Feels bad man. I can't even upgrade to a k cause i saved money on the mobo as well.

>>60756128
>Those are close to single threaded,
what
did you not get the 52% IPC improvement memo?

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me : >>60756111
>>60756035
You should try to undervolt and find a sweet spot too if you haven't already. People complaining about the 7700k getting too hot are in my opinion for the most part retards who left the voltage at 1.3v in the bios. Don't get me wrong, the spikes ARE dumb, but letting your vcore at a stupid voltage especially on stock clocks is even more dumb.

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>>60756111
>>60756166
>tfw Ryzen with a 140W TDP air cooler
>1.10625V
>8C above ambient when idle (31C)
>17C above ambient in normal gaming load and such (40C)
>48C at 100% load on all 12 threads, stress testing it. 140mm fan on the cooler doesn't go over 10% fan speed.
I don't know how people find 70C+ acceptible. Yes, the silicon can handle it, but it's not comfy at all.
The 7700k performs well in lightly threaded applications, but not well enough to justify putting out 50% more heat.
It's not 50% faster so it shouldn't run 50% hotter.

Hey I asked this question in another thread too but I forgot what was answered.
I will write it down this time.

My sister gave me her old computer because she got a new one, I want to use this computer because it's a lot better than mine but she isn't very careful when it comes to computers.

She has tons of virusses on it because of things she downloads and just not being careful on the internet in general.

What can I do to clean this pc completely, restore it to a state as if it were completely new fresh from the factory?

Would it be best to buy a new Motherboard / HDD (I will probably go with SSD then because it's faster) / RAM or anything else?

Sorry for my stupid question, I hope someone can help though, I don't really know that well what damage could be done to a computer this way.

Additional infromation;
She used a pirated version of Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (Activated with some dodgey activator, I'm not sure if it was Daz but it surely wasn't from the mydigitallife official forums)

She pirated a lot, never used any virus scanners besides Microsoft Security Essentials (which was disabled for most of it's tasks)

She downloaded all kind of weird programs on the computer and ran them, never bothered to delete them properly

She deleted registery files without exactly knowing what effect it would have ''because a friend of her told her to do so'', surprisingly though, it still runs more or less.
(She complained about some bugs and blue screens happening though)

Any help would be appreciated, I plan on installing Windows 10 Home 64bit from USB-stick (purchased, legit version) on this but I don't want to run into any bugs or glitches or issues later on.

Please help.

>>60756165
52% IPC increase is an average, and Bulldozer clocks higher, you retard.
30-50% PERFORMANCE increase is accurate.

>>60756193
what's your cooler anon?

>>60756196
Ditch the HDD like hot garbage. The rest should be fine. Or just format the HDD and it should be fine as well.

>>60756163
-> try that >>60756166
When you undervolt go easy. Lower it by 0.05 by 0.05, not more. Always test stability whenever you reduce your voltage. You'll see your temps getting better surely.
Install HWiNFO64 for temps; VID voltage values are not real values, it's only what your CPU thinks it needs, if you want to see the real voltage your mobo is delivering to your CPU scroll down until you see the "Vcore" value. Check it and tell me what's yours.

>I can't even upgrade to a k cause i saved money on the mobo as well.
Well the k still works on B250s, you just can't OC it. Still wouldn't be smart to sell your CPU to buy a k just to get a few hundreds mhz. As long as your CPU does everything you need it to do on a daily basis just be happy. I'm pretty autistic myself and it's true seeing all these numbers and stuff makes me want to spend more money to get the "perfect rig" until I remember it's all a trap and doesn't matter. Before that 7700k I spent 5 years on an Athlon X2 because I was a poorfag and I still managed to make the best out of it anyway.

>>60756193
I can confirm it is not comfy. I've had my PC for 2 months or so now and I still check temps daily. Still I comfort myself in the thought that 65-70 average will not reduce the lifespan of my CPU.

>>60755939
any good retailers to look at? I'm in canada obviously. I only know newegg and amazon, and I guess lenovo's site maybe?

>>60756196
Just format the drives, install win 10 and that's it.

>>60756220
Hi there, thank you very much.
Just formatting should be fine?
I take it I would still be at risk a little knowing that files are not exactly deleted but instead ''hidden'' and ready to be overwritten on the HDD after formatting right?
Would you say it's worth dropping 100,- for a ''cheap'' SSD for now to eliminate the risk? (OCZ 240GB)

>>60756196
reddit formatting is probably why it was ignored
and tl;dr

>>60756205
Cryorig C1.
(to be fair 10% speed fan is still 1090rpm. It goes like 1038-1400 and never goes above 1100. So okay like 20% along that range. But it's super silent at that low speed)
I want to eventually replace the fan with a thicker one that I can run at 600rpm or less. It comes stock with a low profile one that could be quieter, though my case muffles it well and it's near completely silent and I'm just being autistic about it.

>>60756237
Nah. CPU idling at close to 50°C is normal here in my country. FYI the daily average temperate here is 26°C to 32°C. Every. Fucking. Day. My last CPU idled at 55°C and it still lasted me for years before i replaced it. I used to own a 290x which idled at 55. It was like a heater by my legs.

>>60756242
Hello thank you too.
Would that be enough, really?
That'd save me some money again, but I have no problem with dropping money when it'd mean I'm completely safe.
Do I format these drives during the Windows 10 install or before on a clean machine or doesn't it matter?

>>60756204
30 - 50% isn't close by any mean
you mean person

>>60756251
Reddit formatting?
I also got answers, I just forgot what they were.

>>60756247
>Just formatting should be fine?
Just nuke it. Everything would be gone.

Yes. If you can afford an SSD get one. The difference is night and day.

>>60756196
That was me. You want something with a VRM heatsink.
Also get a SSD. PNY/Kingston UV400's are cheap.

The board you selected yesterday was one of the Few that are really only for the FX6XXX chips. You would have blew the VRM's.

Board I have
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=970_am3%2b-_-13-130-790-_-Product

Board that's cheap and does great
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157688&cm_re=970_am3%2b-_-13-157-688-_-Product

>>60756254
Yes. Formatting the drive wipes the entire drive clean.

>Do I format these drives during the Windows 10 install or before on a clean machine or doesn't it matter?
Google how to do a clean format and installation. That should suffice.

>>60756286
I know how to do a clean format but not the best moment to do so.
Before installing W10 or during installing W10?
>>60756269
Thank you

>>60756296
During should be fine. But to be safe, do it from boot using a USB drive to install W10.

>>60756267
Return key (enter) abuse.
You were fine yesterday.
>>60756196
Reformat and reinstall the OS. Virus problem gone.
For Win 7 you can turn off all the annoyance measures. So you don't need a key.
Should be no custom wallpaper, a popup forcing the taskbar to the surface, and begging for updates. Just youtube how to turn those off when they start to happen. Usually 30 days.
>security updates
I've not had a problem in years.

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Does anyone know where I can find a Lian Li PC-Q26A/B for sale in North America? Sold out everywhere I've looked and only European sellers seem to have them.

http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q26/

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What do you think?

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Hi guys, I'm from South Africa and I'm looking at buying myself a nice little top end rig.
The one online retailer I'm looking at stocks only two brands of graphics cars: - Galax and Zotac. Are they decent brands or should I look elsewhere ?

>>60756531
Have you consulted a shaman?

What's the best out of the box working RAM I can pair with this mobo?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132963

I have a Ryzen 1700 coming later today and I want to check which of the RAM which one will boost the performance on my CPU, I've heard 3200 is the sweetspot but some don't go to the right frequency out of the box like others?

>>60756551
>Are they decent brands
Yes

>>60756531
>7700K
>H270
This isn't the rice fields, Lingling. Better go back to farming.

>>60756551
That's a 1080Ti? I thought shrouds that ugly died a few years ago, man.

But yes, Galax and Zotac are very solid.

>>60756583
/pcbg/ is not here to check the QVL for you.

>>60756695
I'm asking for opinions to see if anyone else here has this mobo and which ram they have..?
If you don't want to help, then don't say, you don't need to go off talking blah blah, this is PCBG general, everyone is free to ask for advice or help.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w3ZdTH
For gaming and some music production. Will I be able to play AAA titles with this? Don't mind turning the quality down. Could I get by with a 1050 ti or RX460 on medium settings and save some $$?

Already got the PSU for $50.

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>>60756615
>>60756695

Thanks !

I was also wondering . Is something like Pic Related good enough to cool a Ryzen 7 1800X or will I have to go water cooled ?
I was kind of hoping to get a Noctua NH-D15S but unfortyunately I can't seem to get it anywhere in South Africa.

>>60756791
why the fuck would you go off anecdotes instead of compiled technical data?

>>60756220
>>60756242
>>60756269
>>60756286
>>60756309
Hi I have one more final question
Would the motherboard (BIOS) or RAM (buffer memory) also possibly be at risk?
When I buy a SSD, is there a risk it will get infected by leftovers in the BIOS memory or RAM or anywhere else?

>>60756952
dude it's not like there are nsa-tier viruses there. it's probably some shitty adware.
just format it and bam it's done, you'll be fine, there won't be any leftovers left

DP>DVI>HDMI

is this correct?

>>60756931
I'm going off both, fucking chill ffs
I want 1st hand opinions and I'm looking at the specs of RAM too, is it wrong to see other opinions what works for others and what doesn't

fucking hell

>>60756813
>music production
I hope you have a dedicated interface because the sound on that mobo sucks ass.
>Will I be able to play AAA titles with this?
Maybe not at max quality but for 1080p it's enough if you turn down the settings a little.
>Could I get by with a 1050 ti or RX460
Don't. Just don't.

See here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tn2LXH
Better mobo, SDD and HDD. GPU is worse but also cheaper and enough for 1080p. Case + 1-2 120mm fans is cheaper and just as good, Corsair cases are overpriced and overrated.
PSU is imo better and cheaper, also 550W is already more than you need unless you plan on some serious upgrade. WiFi.. if you really need it, otherwise skip it.
Monitor is really nice, got three of them. See if you can find one used, bought mine used, too. Monitor is probably the safest thing to buy used.

>>60754974
If your building a computer, obviously yes itssmart to buy now as waiting means your purchase would be more obsolete, o. The other hand, ram prices are crazy.

>>60756990
Very nice, thank you.

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>>60754974
Bump?

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is this a good entry-level / budget gaymen pc?
what should I change without having much higher costs?

Also, I already have a case and I will add 2 x 4 tb mechanical HDD which I also have (they're WD Red NAS disks, I got them for free from work when we upgraded to 6tb)

>>60757022
gigabyte is better? it only has better audio (no real difference) and retarded rgb ("muh gayming"). asrock pro4 is good enough.
good luck finding rx570 in stock
he already got the psu.

>>60757059
from silicon lottery:
Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V

so it's just not worth it.

>>60757065
I forgot to add some explanation:

>According to some benchmarks that I saw, the Ryzen performs much better on faster RAM, this is why I took DDR4-3200
>I only have place for a uATX board, ATX won't fit into my case
>I only play 1920x1080 because I will mostly use my TV for gaming and not upgrade to 4k until that TV breaks
>GPU / CPU combination is choosen according to the OP

>>60757065
i would strongly recommend getting b350 motherboard. you could probably get a cheaper psu.

7700k is still better than ryzen in gaming you just need a decent cooler

>>60757122
Can you suggest me a good brand? I went with Be Quiet because I literally had my computer burning while I was at work because of a cheap PSU back in 2010, since then I only went with that brand...

>>60757083
>no real difference
Have fun with with audio chip and no dedicated PCB layers then. Not like audio quality matters for audio production, right?
VRM is also questionable. Neither one has quality components but at least the Gigabyte has a 4 phase design whereas ASRocl only has 3 phases.

>>60757022
>I hope you have a dedicated interface because the sound on that mobo sucks ass.
I do, and a dac/amp for headphones.
Probably gonna grab the 1060 still rather than wait for the rx's to come back in stock.

>>60757161
Doesn't matter when the VRMs in question are shit.

So what happens to Windows after I change my current cpu+mobo from intel to AMD? Do I have to clean install or can I just download the drivers?

>>60757306
Amount of real phases does matter.

>>60757350
Best to make clean install.

>>60757378
Everything matters.

$335 for a 1070. Good deal?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bJgxKZ r8

>>60757546
This is how to waste money / 10

>>60757546
why would you pick that monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gHnq2R

hows this look for 500 budget, for a gaming pc?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTFhNN
Are there any glaring issues with this so far? couldnt select the case i was going to use (AeroCool LS-5200). Max price is around 800 eurodollars. Country is germany. Should i be hurrying to buy the 580, because of the cryptocunts? (It is still in stock currently)

>>60757686
wheres your graphics card? You also odnt need an i7, and get a better psu.

>>60757720
forgot to mention, purpose is mainly muh gaymen.

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(pic related)So this is the system i'm contemplating atm:

[Purpose]
Gaming
3D modelling and rendering
Some amateur gamedev ala /vg/agdg/

[Budget]
Money, while I'd obviously like to save as much as possible, isn't such a big concern here. My last PC I bought in 2008 and I've been saving diligently every year for this PC. I think it's finally time for an upgrade.

[Country]
South Africa

[Games & Software]
GIMP
Blender
Zbrush
Unity3d
DOTA2
TheSims4
Civilization VI
Diablo 3

[Goal]
I'd typically like to get a system that will last me another 8-9 years so future proofing is a thing for me while at the same time saving as much money as possible.. I don't typically make many changes to my system apart from replacing broken components. Also any recommendations for superior/better value components would be appreciated.

should I wait for the rx 570 to become available or should I go with another gpu? I am planing to pair it with ryzen 1600.

>>60757621
is this any better
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/prx9TW/acer-monitor-umwv6aab01
>>60757604
tell me why?

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This is a 6 core AMD AM3 (I think a phenom ii). Would it still be useful nowadays with modern components?

>>60754974
the 1700 comes with a free cooler, the 1700X is without cooler, so you need to add at least $20 for a cheap cooler.

>>60757847
How much do you want to spend on a monitor? I'd suggest spending a little more for like a 24"

if you cant, get this

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-I2267FW-22-Inch-Frameless-Brightness/dp/B00CLZ047Q/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1496677483&sr=1-4&keywords=1080p+monitor&refinements=p_36%3A-10000%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570747011

what is a good very cheap PSU around 70-80$ ?

>>60757891
yea, sure, with a middle class gpu, try not to overdo it

>>60757976
supernova 550w g2

>>60757101
Where did you get this information?

R8 my setup
inb4 gonna save up a bit more for a SSD and get a 500gb one in the future
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PzjQ2R

>>60757686
>gaming pc
>no gpu
>h110 mobo
>slow ram
>500gb hdd
>shit psu
the whole build is retared

1700 or 1700X for primarily gaming and general use?

>>60757976
Seasonic S12II or M12II Evo (modular/non-modular)

>tfw no rx 580 anywhere
Am I going to be disappointed with a 1060?

>>60758631
At this point I'd say go for it. RX 580 would be better but since cryptofags hoard them there is no real other options.

>>60754974
I'd say its worth going for the x if the price difference is that small. The binning is worse in those non x models. Sure most ryzens still oc just fine, but it really sucks if you get a bad one.

t. 1600 that cant get stable above 3,8.

I'm trying to get myself budged friendly workstation/gaming pc. It's going be my first time building a pc. I want it to be a long lasting pc (upgradable, etc.) PC partpicker link: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fXqJWX (Case and PSU is a bundle.)

>>60758663

why do cryptofags buy up gpus ?

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Price is in leafbux, going to wait until the hard drives go on sale next.
Gonna be a HTPC/media server/always-on seeding PC, I already have an ATX mobo&cpu otherwise I would get a smaller form factor case
Any suggestions? Should I get 7200rpm if it's only going to be used by at most 3 devices at once?

>>60758917
Mining ethereum is profitable now

>>60758933

what a crazy world we live in.

is it worth overclocking the 1500x on stock cooler?

>>60758845
swap the 7700k for a 7600k, and the 1050 ti for a 1060
Price is basically exactly the same, you'll barely notice a difference in terms of CPU but the 1060 is a big step up

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>>60757101
The 1700 and the 1700X are the same price with a motherboard combo at my local Microcenter. Which one should I go with? This is a 24-7 number crunching machine. Someone suggested that the 1700 is much more energy efficient than the 1700X—is this true? If so, that + the heatsink might be reason enough.

I need a PSU with the sizes 75x127x148 (h,b,l) or smaller. What should I look for?

Do you think if I wait ~1 week for a sale on Ryzen 5 1600 or the 1060 there will be any significant price drop?

>>60759039
I'm not sure about my cooler and monitor. Got any suggerstions ?

When will the ethereum bubble burst and how can we accelerate that

>>60759249
mine etherum and give it away for free, with an incredible CPU. Inflation would be the best to let the bubble burst

I'm new to this, would this be a good build to start working towards?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKrCnn

>>60759249
People will hold onto it for way too long. Thinking they're being smart by not converting it to a 'real' currency. A thing no one can have is fucking worthless.
Even after that, they wont let go of what they've got for less than the retail price they payed for all their cards.

>>60759433
Don't get a matx board get a full sized mobo. Your temps will be better since things will be spaced out more. Other than that it will be able to run games at 60fps on 4k so it's a really good pc

>>60759552
Noted, thanks

>>60759211
You could go with the cryorig h7, or even the hyper 212 evo as I think it's better than the T4 too
All 1080p monitors around the $150 point are the same tbqh, just check reviews in case of lots of dead pixel reports

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WhrBP
Suggestions on what to change?

>>60759499
6tb HDD
No SSD
???
If you're planning on being a youtuber a 7700k isn't the chip for you.

I was looking for a new heat sync for my CPU and I always though as long as it fit in the case it was fine, but now I'm seeing comparability stuff on Newegg.
Does a heat sync need to be compatible with your CPU to use it?

>>60759646
>>60759039
Thanks!

>>60759665
Meant for
>>60759433

>>60759664
If you have the spare $ get a small SSD. Samsung are cheap atm. Install Windows on that and use the HDD for storage. Makes booting so much quicker. Otherwise looks good to go.
Maybe an extra case fan or two. They're also dirt cheap and it may help take a few more degrees off the cpu. Especially important with the 7700k and it's potential overheating when OC'ing.

>>60759665
Whats the problem with not having an SSD?

>>60757546
That SSD is trash. Barely better than HDD. Get the Kingston UV400 or a PNY.

I need a rundown on Ryzen and RAM speed. Is there a sweet spot? DDR4-3000?

>>60759885
It's like turbocharging your PC. Shit opens a fuck ton faster.

>>60759879
Forgot to mention I have an ssd I will keep from my current pc. Forgot to add the display port cable. Aside from that, I think that build should make use of the 144hz monitor and play witcher 3 on high settings. Will look into the extra fans though

>>60759924
I knew about the increased speed that an SSD gives. I don't really care about speed, is that the only pro to using an SSD over a hard disk drive?

Rate this build:

Ryzen 5 1600X
ASRock X370 Taichi
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming iCX
2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4
250gb SSD
1TB HDD

Thoughts?

>>60759433
You can't OC that Mobo so 7700k is wasted.
Get 7200RPM HDD with a TB or two less.
You also need a disk drive if you plan on installing Windows unless you are doing it with a USB. Disk drives are cheap and installing it is easy.

>>60760014
get an msi instead of a evga

The current monitor situation is pretty annoying.

>Is 1440p going to be the new 720p?
>Will medium/high end graphics cards be able to handle 4k@144hz?

I guess probably not on the 2nd one... So, then 1440p would be the new 1080p?

>>60760024
Cool, thanks

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Repost from questions thread. Along lines of building a PC. Just need the last piece a monitor.
What monitor should I get and when?
Thinking of a 4k 32" G-sync monitor. Can't go to under 32" now after having a 32". Ideally I would get 1440p 144hz gsync but they are all small/super expensive/don't exist. Waiting until the end of the yer for new releases is a possibility.

Pic related.

>>60760090
thanks, i'll check it out. other than that, good? I'm really amped for the mobo

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>>60760000
Load times in games are dramatically shorter. Boot up times, even looking through images and files. Ever looked trough you system via the search for something before.

>I don't really care about speed,
>buying a 7700K and a 1080ti
Pic related.

>>60759892
>recommending any kingston ssds
yes keep supporting companies that fucked over customers in the past

First time building a Pc, I already got a keyboard, monitor and mouse laying around, I'm looking to have this run most games with at least middle of the road settings for the next 5-8 years, How is this looking?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZLN3kT
Also any suggestions are always welcomed.

>>60760175
looks good.
expensive as fuck tho, im jelly
that's like, 2500 leaf money in total

>>60760330
>probably an American
Like your one to fucking talk.
>probably has/have owned both nVidia and intel in the last ten years
Anyways. I wasn't here/reading up on tech for what ever Kingston did. Care to say so in you post instead of jumping up and down on your soapbox.

>>60758985
Yeah, that's the reason why it is recommended over the 1400.

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Hey guys I bought this DDR2 MEMORY KIT OF 4GB and installed on my PC HP, but it doesn't recognize it at all, I tried restarting the PC twice, and put it in different slots, but it marks me as "not installed"

The memory is Kingston

Sent by phone.

>>60760505
>not an american
>haven't bought any pc parts in last 8 years

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand

>>60760719
make sure you push it in hard enough, until it clicks. check if it recognize it in bios somewhere.

>>60760439
Okay I had the 6500. It's not great and bottlenecks a in many games.
The motherboard is far too good for that. You could get a much cheaper one to save money as you can't overclock the 6500. You can invest that in a better CPU.
You can also save money on RAM. The RAM has way too high a speed fore what you need. You can put that money towards a 1070.
You DEFINITELY don't need watercooling. Get a more balanced build that you can upgrade fully in a few years.

>>60760780
Exactly the part I advised against. Least I'm that much in the loop. Unfortunately there's limited makers available in the cheap SSD category. Hence why PNY was advised. But I'm pretty sure they've done shitty things as well. Like near all other brands to come up in this sector.
I'll assume you didn't mean to green text. As you were referring to yourself.

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>>60760439
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZLN3kT
here is a better build imo

>>60761056
absolute trash. leave this general

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>>60760875
Well I reinstalled, and push it enough so the tabs will close by themselves and the made click, but I didn't heard anything else.

And NOPE

My startup says "not installed" still, and I installed in slot number 4.

>>60761056
Does b150 mobo even allow OC?

>>60761056
Your telling me to skimp on my cooling?

>>60761329
No but you can't OC a 6500 which was in the original build. far better value to get the higher clock of the 6600k even if you can't OC.

>>60761360
You can't OC a 6500 so why do you need a watercooler?

>>60761056
>i5 6600k
Go for Ryzen 1600 instead, buy B350 motherboard (avoid Gigabyte, rest are good), you should be good OC with stock cooler even, up to 3.8Ghz safely.
>Windows 10 Home $90
Worst W10 version and you can also get it much cheaper, get any other W10 version key from Kinguin or other reputable site

>>60758004
I think the 3rd gen is $10 more and half the size. Might be worth it.

Newfag here

Im guessing intels i9s are going to be shit but i've never had an AMD before.

What's this about AMD not being compatible with everything unlike intel where you can run everything, on AMD you have to tweak this and that for it to work with most things.

thinking about getting the threadripper when it comes out, will it work with geforce 1080 ti ?

>>60761391
>>60761056
>>60759664
>i5 builds
fuck off with your trash already

>>60761433
Because I clearly have no idea what I am doing.

>>60761451
Yeah this is a shout. haven't really looked into Ryzen adn their mobos but it would allow for a far more balanced build with power where it matters. In the GPU and CPU. Not the RAM and Mobo.

>>60761257
My pc is Windows 64bit.

>>60761560
I was trying to stay within the budget posted. I know I5's a trash but Ryzen/KabyLake are more expensive. Also his mobo needed a bios update for Kabylake. You can't do that without a CPU.

>>60761548
The fact that you're a newfag is evident in this post. No, there isn't any thing extra you have to tweak with AMD CPU's and yes a 1080TI would work with an AMD CPU. Unless you're getting an 1800X I wouldn't suggest that you get a 1080Ti, just get a regular 1080 with a 1700X and be happy.

>>60761691
>ryzen more expensive
literally untrue

>>60761451
What's the difference between the B350 and the X370?
Price and performance, I'm sure, but does it do anything else? Can the X370 be further upgraded, or support anything special?

>>60761614
>>60761257
>>60760875
Help?

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My current build.

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>>60761056
Here is a superior version. Changed most things I didn't have time to before.

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Where can I get good deals on a GPU as a shariah law abiding Britfag? I've used Scan in the past but the best deal I can find is this which seems steep.

>>60762181
pick 1600 version without x
drop the cooler
get faster 3000mhz+ memory
change psu
dont pay for windows unless you're a massive cuck

>>60762452
Cooler is for OC'ing. 1600x much better than 1600 imo. Fast RAM is a meme. CPU is much more important. Can get a bit of a better PSU if willing to pay more. Windows is easy and better for gaining. All of this depends on what the PC is being used for.

>>60762379
If you have an old one take it to CEX and get some cash to put towards a new one. Using PC part picker is decent for checking price differences. don't go for Aria PC you don't get warranty with them though.

>>60754225
Hd 6850 died wat can I get that place black dessert on par for the cheapest till the Vega bang bux kick in?

>>60762699
>Cooler is for OC'ing
it's a shit cooler. if anything pick cryorig h7 instead

>1600x much better than 1600 imo.
it's clocked marginally higher. you can easily oc 1600 on stock cooler to 1600x levels.

>Fast RAM is a meme
no it's not you fucking idiot. and especially not with ryzen. it benefits heavily from faster ram, and 3000mhz is only a few $ more expensive

>better psu
EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2 / G3. if you want cheaper then seasonic S12II.

>windows
i meant just pirate it you idiot. if you're going with Windows Botnet™ route then at least save yourself some money

>>60762699
>fast RAM is a meme
you're a meme you dip

>buy all parts from 1 shop
>they have overpriced GPU I want
>have to buy somewhere else
Feeling bad man

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2XLLXH

Any suggestions for my budget passive cooled build?

I plan on removing the fan on the cpu cooler, I may leave the two case fans and that's it.

The graphics card only runs at 30 tdp.

>>60763502
The Stock intel cooler is fine. Your're not overclocking, the chip is locked and the motherboard doesn't support it

>>60763502
your psu is going to be the loudest part of your pc btw

>>60763111
>404 argument not found.
1fps increase is a meme. The differences between the DDR4 clocks are minimal. For gaming at least.

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Anyone use newegg premier? States it give exclusive deals. Is it worth cashing in on my 1 free year if i plan on upgrading parts soon?

>>60763639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsYOASddeo

>>60763782
Wow 2 fps. Really made me think.
A better cpu i5 6500 to i7 700k is more like 15fps. An actual solid non meme difference.

>>60763806
looks good

Do you guys have a laptop/tablet along with your desktop PC?

I was considering getting this chromebook, what do you think about it? Just to use for youtube, shitposting and schoolwork.

https://www.amazon.ca/Chromebook-11-6-Inch-Rockchip-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B00VUV0MG0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496691242&sr=8-1&keywords=c201

>>60760719
If that is just one stick, your problem might be with the CPU. AFAIK old Intel CPUs don't support 4GB-sticks, while AMD did. Unfortunately 2GB ones that are Intel-compatible can be a pain in the ass to get these days.

>>60763806
change ssd. v300 is one of the worst ssd out there. see >>60760780. i'd also recommend at least 240gb. su800, crucial, sandisk are good picks. samsung if you feel like paying premium


as for psu EVGA SuperNOVA 550 seems to be commonly picked. seasonic is also a good brand.

>>60763923
it's more like 15 fps depending on a game. and faster ram costs maybe 10$ more.

>>60763982
Mine isn't Intel, its a HP Pavillion, and both the Stick i purchased and the ones i have are DDR2.

>>60763974
>chromebook
Never

>>60764126
>Mine isn't Intel, its a HP Pavillion
HP may be the manufacturer of your whole system, but they just bought that CPU somewhere. And if that somewhere was Intel, your RAM won't work.
DDR2 alone may not be sufficient for compatibility here. It needs to be a supported size, speed and latency as well. And if the other one differs that may cause you trouble even though the one you bought is right in the specifications.

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Anyone recommend a 700W+ PSU that is passively cooled at idle (i.e. the fan stops spinning all together)? Price isn't a consideration.

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>>60763923
>intel
>better
AHAHAHAHA

>>60764308
Gayymers only look at the bigger number and don't understand that minimums are the most important thing.

>>60762075

Golly friend, what are you doing with 18 TB of disk space ?

>>60764169
w-why?

>>60764263
Evga G2 series has eco mode, which is what you are talking about.

>>60764263
Corsair RM 750x or something with higher wattage. Most higher quality PSUs have something like fan stop under X% load, most likely under 30-50%. RM 750x has fan at 0 RPM when under 300W load and having one myself I can't hear it at all when at full load (above other components)

My RM 750x

>>60761919
Anyone? Wondering weather it's worth it to upgrade for future proofing

>>60764394

What do you have against a ThinkPad ?

>>60763230
My last PC I bought shit from 4 different shops. Saved about 25$ that way.

newfag here, building for the first time an getting beep codes
3 beeps, a short pause, then 8 beeps. Any advice? Im worried I may have fucked something up on this first pass.

Parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C8Vsr7

>>60764536
I can't find a lightweight thinkpad for $250 cdn ($185 USD)... they're all THICC at that price range

>>60764564
Take out one of the ram stick and try 1 stick in various slots.
Also reseat the GPU.

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Made this build just for Overwatch, I don't plan to upgrade in the future, I don't plan to do anything else on this particular PC. Would I be able to get a consistent 60 frames at low settings with 75 render scale? Also anything worth noting / changing?

>>60764564
Did you plug a 6 pin into the GPU?

>>60764770
Yeah, easily, check this benchmark:

https://youtu.be/5z4jgQvI0GA

>>60764770
up the GPU to a 470 or 570
get a 2x4gb memory kit. 4gb just isn't enough

>>60764660
>>60764775
Im trying multiple things, but I should note the beeping stopped when I removed one of the ram sticks, but still nothing on screen despite no beeping

>>60756850
>South Africa

How are you not dead yet?

>>60764770
for 10$ more you have FreeSync 75hz monitor (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W3yxFT/viewsonic-monitor-vx2457mhd).
8gb of ram is minimum nowadays.
pay 6$ more for asrock pro4. it has 4 dimm slots.

>>60764880
Bruh, not him, but south africa is an actual city.
Very crime ridden, but you know, the citizens aren't a guerrilla army.

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>>60764770
>4gb of RAM
Yeah, nah.

>>60764876
Try waiting longer if you aren't already, AM4 takes a long ass time to post.
But definitely focus your efforts on your GPU now. You have the display plugged into the GPU right?

>>60764770
get 144hz monitor if you want to get out of bronze m8, but you need to invest into faster dual channel RAM because Overwatch is very hungry for that

Which is more powerful:
AMD RYZEN 5 1600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz
or
AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0 GHz

alternatively, What should I look at besides clock speed and cores to determine CPU power.

>>60764876
OK, that's something. Is that 1060 inserted properly? Is the power supply 6 pin connected? Is the monitor connected properly?

>>60764939
reseated the gpu and now I have a boot menu, thanks, I want to try fixing this ram problem before installling the os, should I bother or just deal with the 1 ram stick for now?

>>60764992
Just update the bios, if that doesn't fix it the other stick is probably broken.

>>60764960
Ryzen

>>60764947
>144hz
Not that anon, but why does that effect playability SO much

>>60764960
>What should I look at besides clock speed and cores to determine CPU power.
benchmarks

Does anyone have an overclocking /g/uide?
I want to boost my r5 1600, but not sure what to start. I thought it would be easier, but you have to handtype numbers in and not select from a menu.

>>60765049
https://youtu.be/2yMLKcaFirw
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-overclocked-benchmark-results-at-4-2ghz_193599

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>>60764902
That's a better monitor, changed it. Also changed the motherboard. Upgraded to 8GB ram wasn't too sure what to buy from the options though.
>>60764947
Not here to talk about Overwatch but 144hz is far from needed outside of "professional" play.

>>60765138
>Not here to talk about Overwatch but 144hz is far from needed outside of "professional" play.
Have you used one? FPS games are way better on a 120Hz+ monitor, for other games it isn't really that big a deal though.

>>60764191
well fuck me.

grantes the memory only cost me $10 but damn, its useless now?

$400 for a 27" 2k G sync monitor. Too good to be true?

http://www.microcenter.com/product/460912/s2716dgr_27_qhd_led_g-sync_gaming_monitor

>>60764880

I just stay indoors and play on my pc all the time

>>60765379

It's a TN panel but it's Dell and I've never had troubles with their monitors at all. The U series (Ultra sharp?) Is an excellent line

First time using a PCIE 16x to 16x extension cable and there seems to be a TON OF shitty ones according to reviews. Any majority endorsed good brand ones?

>>60765427
>TN panel
D R O P P E D

Attention: Newegg has sapphires.

Newegg has sapphires, ball is in the field.

>>60765472
What is this TN panel sucks meme? Why would you ever be looking at your computer from the side? Why would you want to take your chances with IPS glow and having to RMA something 10 times just to get one that doesn't do it as bad as the other 9 screens?

Is it beneficial to get an R5 1600x instead of R5 1600 if I'm overclocking?

>>60765427
>>60765472
Would an IPS Acer be a better buy? Both are same price, just Freesync instead. I have no plans to purchase an AMD card

http://www.microcenter.com/product/478859/XF270HU_27_WQHD_LED_Display_Monitor_w-_FreeSync

>>60765745
Also I don't need the wraith spire cooler

>>60765652
Depends on the company, my Dell U2412h (not at pc right now might be off) is just fine with thay.

>>60765816
IPS can have a better looking screen imo, but they do have to deal with issues like motion blur, input lag tends to be higher than TN panels on avg.

Is it even worth buying a disc drive nowadays?

>>60765999
Yes. They're $10 anon

>>60765999
Nope, much easier to just go to the component manufacturers site, download whatever drivers you need and put it on a USB stick.

>>60765999

i can't imagine that it is with cloud storage, flash drives and external hard drives all being better options
unless you want to burn some serious ROM backups that is

>>60766042
>he doesn't play his old Nox or Diablo disks from time to time. how old are you?

>>60765999
i just got my new build up and running and I did not, and now I have to install some of my drivers with a usb stick. Copying from the driver disk to the usb is taking forever, and from what I understand I need to do this to update my motherboards network so I can connect to the internet. however once you have an internet connection you should just be able to download any drivers you need.

Already ordered my shit just want your guys opinion, from germany and i game on 1080p60hz

>r51500x, probably gonna overclock
>MSI Pc mate B350 mobo
>Sharkoon case sub 30 bucks
>Asus ROG OC Strix gtx 1060, was on sale for 290 bucks
>8 gb of 2133 mhz ddr4 ram single stick
>corsair 550 vs psu, heard those are shit might replace it with a cx in the future
>samsung pro SSD
>WD blue 1tb HDD

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>>60766066
If I want to play an older game I'll go to pirate bay and get it there, not worth keeping a million discs hanging around.

I think the only PC game I even have on disc now is Halo CE.

>>60766066

oh shit i forgot about this crap !

probably best to convert all your old disks to .iso before you ditch that disc drive.

>>60766092
What's the point in asking our opinion after the fact?
Anyway it's stupid. Samsung Pros are over priced, 2133MHz ram with ryzen is a waste and 1500x is a dumb buy when the 1600 has 50% more cores and costs like $20 more.

>>60756531
looks good, if youre just gaming at 1080p the i7 will do, but if youre looking into higher res and maybe video editing etc.. a ryzen 7 1700 overclocked to 4ghz might do the job, is also way cheaper, and only has-5% performance in games.

>>60757949
this, the ryzen stock cooler is actually decent and for people starting out and not wanting to have a huge noctua tower cooler inside their case, which doesnt necessarily increase OCability, just temps and noise, its really good.

>>60766094
I hate your generation

Alright, /pcbg/, round 2
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XN9Q2R (I already have a 1TB HDD)
Did some tweaking and adjusting. I'm going for
>Mid-High, non-competetive gaming
>Good for 6-8 years
>~$1000
I am willing to wait a month for 580's to come back in stock, and to scope out sales. Is there anything else in the near future worth waiting for?

Also, What's the deal with Crossfire/SLI? Is planning in buying a 2nd GPU in a few months a worthwhile upgrade?

Big thanks to all you wonderful anons for sharing your knowledge.

>>60766132
i got the samsung pro for free, so eh, also its more like 30 bucks in yuropooristan, as for the ram i really dont care, i just wanted something temporary that im gonna upgrade in the future, ill just have to get 2 high mhz ram sticks, thanks for the input tho

>2500K and r5 1600 have the same single thread performance
Ok, I didn't expect that... No wonder the emulator fags keep saying ryzen is shit.

>>60766188
if you aren't a millennial you don't belong here grandpa. You're waay too old to still be on 4chan.

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>>60766226
be quiet junior before I take you over my knee

>>60766219
Pretty sure it has broadwell/haswell tier single core performance

>>60766266
If you're unironically 35+ and you still browse here i'm lmaoing at your life

>>60766209
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XN9Q2R
just get a msi gaming x gtx 1060 or whatever is on sale, the performance is extremely comparable and the price is really similar, a lot of current games that arent optimized for amd, which 80% are, run better on Nvidia the wait is just not worth it, also that cooler is a waste, youre never gonna use that much power with a mid range graphics card, id stick to 600 or 550 watts.

As for your Sli/Crossfire question, if you do decide to go rx 580 it might be a good idea to go that route to increase performance, but then again its only about 20% more frames youre getting for paying a shitty value, also your power supply would need to feed twice the load which you wouldnt have to consider by A) waiting till something like vega rolls out or B) getting a 1070, also if you want to sli, the only cards that work with sli in the current gen are 1070 and up and only work with the same models and same vram, so a 1070 wont work with a 1080 and SLI support is way more scarce than crossfire support on Mobos, also crossfire is more open and you can pretty much mix and match any card, say a rx 570 4gb with a rx 580 8gb, which would probably result in diminishing returns tho.

>>60766328
psu* not cooler my bad

>>60766294
not that old yet kiddo.

>>60766294
>its cool to be a newfag now

You're right, i should leave

>>60766294
same goes for anyone below 18, im sorry anon.

>>60766347
~1980-2000 is millennial status.

>>60766369
.......
fuck.
late 1989 here.

>>60766402
You're only 8 years older than me, not reason to hate on our generation friend

>>60766419
plenty of reason to hate my generation. I am the biggest cynical asshole you will never meet

>>60766328
Thank you.
I'm getting the PSU through a friend for ~60$, so I'm fine as long as there's no downside.
2 GPU's doesn't sound worth it, thank you for the explanation.

>>60765532
Please don't play with me, anon.

>>60764383
Woops, it's actually 22TB.

Looks like I haven't updated the part list...

>>60766472
>Please don't play with me, anon.
I checked to verify his claim.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601296377%20601296379%2050001561

>accidentally messed up twice and had to cancel parts of my order twice
>8 hours later they still show up twice on my paypal and bank statement
>refund hasn't come in yet
s-send help

>>60766472
no probs, if you ever do decide to upgrade just look into current single gpus in your price range, almost always the better choice, also did you ponder the option of getting a 1060?

>>60766508
Shit, is this a good price?

>>60766508
o wow theyve actually restricted rx 580 sales to one per account, some fucks are probably gonna figure a way out to bullshit their way through this tho, also anyone who buys that card and doesnt sell it for 50$ profit is doing something wrong.

>>60766284
Yeah but a sandybridge can reach higher clocks pretty easily.
A 4GHz ryzen should be about the same as a 4.4-4.5GHz sandybridge

>>60766508
What's the difference between them?

>>60766508
I don't have a single part to my build, should I buy this today before they sell out?

>>60766594
The cheaper one has 4 GB of vram. The more expensive one has 8GB of vram.

>>60766508
>not in stock on the Canadian website
well fuck you too then

I've joined the DAN CASES A4-SFX Kickstarter, and I've been thinking of maybe upgrading my Asus GeForce GTX970-DCMOC-4GD5

Considering that the GTX 1060 and RX 580 are both about 300 euromonies brand new, I've been looking at some second hand cards for interest:

MSI GeForce GTX 980 GAMING 4G - 230 EUR
Asus GeForce GTX Titan - 235 EUR
MSI Geforce GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G - 240 EUR
Palit GTX 980 Ti Super JetStream 6 GB - 300 EUR
MSI GTX 980 Ti 6GD5 V1 - 300 EUR
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX Titan SuperClock - 450 EUR (1 for 250 EUR, I could get both and use it for another build, maybe get the NCASE M1 for it)

Should any of these be worth considering, or should I just stick with the 970 for now??

Are mail-in rebates a meme?

>>60766508

I keep getting rused on shipping so Newegg might be bullshit.

>>60766636
the msi gaming x sounds pretty good if you ask me, youre not blasting your budget, its a good value card, overclockable, better performance silent and if you want to upgrade in the future you still have money.

>>60766594
the pulse doesnt have as much of a factory overclock, meaning it might perform slightly worse than the nitro if you dont overclock it yourself but the one available is an 8gig model unlike the nitro which is 4 gigs, resulting in a bit worse performance, id get the 8 gb pulse , its a pretty good value card and really quiet.

>>60766809
Thanks, anon
I've seen GTX 1060's go for about 200, but they're immediately reserved. There's no hurry to replace my 970, so I'm thinking if I see one at that price, I'll get in on it.
The other's seemed interesting for that price, even knowing that they'll have less recent features and more power consumption. Am I wrong in thinking that?

Is there any meaningful difference between Newegg Premier and Shoprunner, and are they any good?

>>60766636
The 980 and 980ti are both good for those prices in a 1060 6GB really is $300. The 980ti is actually a really good deal and is the only one that would offer a significant upgrade over your 970.
First generation titans are only good for their double precision performance.

>>60764770
Why not get the 6 core for a little more

>>60766962
Thanks, anon.
I was only looking at the Gaming X new prices, wich is over 300.
But I actually found 1060's for about 270, and regular 580's for about 260.

Would the 980 TI still be an interesting deal then?
The money itself isn't really an issue, just looking at what my options are and what might be the best bang for my buck

>>60766904
i wouldnt automatically turn down older video cards just cause of being a tad bit outdated, getting a 980 ti for sub 300 bucks would be a really good deal for example since it can still stand up to pretty much all current games at 60+fps on ultra settings at 1080p, only problem is that if you wanna resell that card its value is just dramatically decreased and like you said less recent support higher wattage that kinda shit,

>>60767104
Then it's only an okay deal.
Aftermarket 980tis often perform around the same as a GTX 1070 only with more powerconsumption so they're worth a good deal more than a 1060 as long as you're not thermally or power limited.

>>60767104
oh if youre looking for best bang for buck the 980ti is probably one of the best options you have to be honest for that kinda money

What's a good price for the 580? I'm waiting for the Vega to come out so the prices drop.

>>60767185
Ideally it shouldn't be more than $250 but you're going to have trouble finding one at that price for a while, even after vega.

>>60767185
>>60767240
Oh but I should add if you can find a new one for under or around $300 you'll probably be able to scalp that for a profit right now.

>>60767113
>>60767138
>>60767146

Thanks! Getting a new 1070 or up seemed overkill for my use, but these other deals seemed interesting enough to make the jump. I'll take a second look at the 980 TI deals, and a 1060 if one pops up for 200 if I can get in on it

>>60767185
please just get a 1060 anon, those 2 gigs of vram really dont make much of a difference, the 1060 still outperforms the 580 in a lot of games and its actually freaking available.

>>60767266
Not looking to scalp, trying to build my first gaming PC

Thanks though!

Do G.skill TridentZ rgb sticks work with ryzen?
>inb4 rgb is a gaymen maymay
Meh, i wanted the RGB to glow white or red, but maybe not worth it. If it isnt, then i wont buy it

>>60767270
make sure to get one with 6 gb of vram tho.