Name one thing wrong with Krita

>>>/ic/

>>60744456
GIMP is better

>>60744456
Furries

>>60744916
That's like saying a hammer's better than a screwdriver

>>60744916
gimp's ui is fucking retarded and lacks basic features, krita at least looks and feels similar to ps

>flip pen upside down
>switches to eraser
>flip pen right side up
>stays on eraser

*crashes*

>>60745028
>Anything I'm not used to is bad

I started with GIMP and had zero problems. When I tried the adobe suite it was an intuitive mess

>>60745098
i started with ps so i can't tell you for myself but i had a friend that used gimp for 3 years when i met him, after watching me work in ps for ~5 hours he switched, with my help, and never looked back

>>60745141
This.

>>60744456
Not a based anti-SJW editor.

>>60745069
bug report?

>>60745189
Krita is pro-SJW? What?

>>60744456
Is Krita really good?

Adobe subscription is expensive

>>60745251
i think he ment the gimp name controversy and them telling sjws to fuck off, which was pretty based

>>60745141
well guess what I had a friend that used ps for 3 years when i met him, after watching me work in gimp for ~5 hours he switched, with my help, and never looked back

>>60745141
I use gimp instead of photoshop

I started using krita just to see what it's like and after 5 minutes I uninstalled gimp and switched over

It's no contest. I can use krita despite knowing fuckall about it. Haven't had to google 'how to x' since I installed it, whereas that's basically a daily experience with gimp.

Maybe krita will get a shittier UI as the features expand, but for right now it's miles ahead of gimp in usability.

>>60745441
Aren't there things Krita can't do? Also do you use text tool in krita?

>>60744456
Literal fursoft.

>>60744456
It can be somewhat slow.

>>60745069
>people flipping their pen to erase

really?

>>60745587
this desu, i tried using it for some time but it just lagged when i stacked a few layers with effects, it seemed like it didn't render placeholders and re-rendered every frame from scratch

>>60745622
I wish my pen worked like that

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>>60745622
>he doesn't know

>>60745690
It's way faster to just use a hotkey though.

>>60745667
so you want to decrease your productivity?

>>60745690
Know what?

>>60745712
>so you want to decrease your productivity?
If I wanted to be productive I wouldn't be drawing.

>>60745748
Well that makes no sense but godspeed

>>60745863
How doesn't it? Drawing's something I do in my free time for fun, productivity is when I'm getting shit done.

the airbrush mode is so bad it's embarrassing. directly related, there is no accumulate mode. deal breaker for me.

>>60744456
qt

>>60745069
this was only 1 version bug. and it already fixed.

3.1.12

>>60744456
I want to use it, so bad
but it seem to be pretty slow or laggy at times

instant preview on brushes does help but it's not a definitive solution.

Sai and medibang are fast as hell.

>>60746931
>t. gtkuck dev

>>60747051
>but it seem to be pretty slow or laggy at times
What are your specs? That is not normal.

>>60744456
Nothing, Krita is very neat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8

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>>60747729
Krita is the only drawing software that gives me lag on my PC
at 5000x5000 or more depending on the brush

>>60744456
It's not photoshop.

>>60745141
fake and gay

>>60745154
samefag

>>60747500
electron actually :^)

>>60744456
I haven't tried Krita out yet. Are the pen settings as easily editable as the ones in SAI?

>>60745529
I use krita for really basic stuff, like cropping around an image to add a transparency layer, or scribbling shit.

I don't use it for text or really basic editing, that's mspaint's job.

There's tons of shit krita probably can't do that gimp can, but in all honesty it's shit I never use anyways. For example, I wanted to convert a few logos to a vector format and gimp did this with some add-on thing. I doubt krita can (I never tried though, I did this before I even heard of krita).

>>60748599
I wouldn't say it's as simple but holy shit are there a lot of options. Typical KDE software I guess.

>>60748567
That's worse honestly.

KDE dependency

>>60744456
Requires half a terabyte of kgarbage to install.

>>60744456
Is Krita good? I thought it was just for drawing unlike Photoshop. If it's good for editing images as well then that's great.

>>60749795
Pretty sure Krita's just for digital painting

>>60745711

Faster and more efficient also, because you A: do not put unneeded stress on your hand by turning it all the time and B: you don't have to aim for the same spot again to continue drawing.

>>60745141
GIMP user for 6 years and counting. PS id actually nice and I'm learning it slowly to take advantage of my hardware acceleration.

Might give Krita a try some point in the future.

>>60751007
krita is painting, gimp and photoshop are photomanipulation.
>>60744456
Its not manga/clip studio.

>>60745256
If you need photomanipulation, photoshop is king.

if you just paint, use kirta till manga studio or clip studio go on their usual 15$ sales and pick that up. cringy name I know but it's hands down the best drawing/painting program currently, followed by coral if you want to emulate real world materials.

>>60745587
>>60745644
kitra sucks dick on windows, its near flawless on linux.

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Its text tool is fucking awful.
10/10 software otherwise, also Inkscape has great text tools so it doesn't matter much.

its good for what it does but it likes to use a lot of cpu power randomly and made 20 icons for itself in the "open this file with..." menu

>>60751116
You can paint in Photoshop too. And technically Gimp, but why would you.

>open text tool
>change fonts
>CPU spikes up to 100%
*crashes*

Linux will never EVER get a proper photoshop alternative.

Its not photoshop.
Just get a cracked photoshop.

>>60744456
It requires 400mb of KDE/Qt libraries to run
not including all its other dependencies.

I was going to play with it, but then it wanted to pull in every fucking
k* library under the fucking sun.

on a unrelated note I've been getting "select all the bridges" on the
google captcha all day...fucking creepy google.

>>60753346
me too. yesterday was about cars

>>60753346
>It requires 400mb of KDE/Qt libraries to run
Seriously
That shit is unacceptable.
The idea for dynamic linking was that we would need less hard drive space.
Instead now we need more because every programm needs the whole bloated fucking framework installed on the computer.
Statically linking only the parts you need was the right aproach afterall.

>>60753346
>>60753448
>not using legacy captcha

>>60753498
im comfy in my bed only with 1 hand free. blame me

>>60753346
>>60753473
The latest appimage is less than 80Mo though.
So that complaint is outdated.

>>60753712
it's still bad software design

>>60753813
They fixed that with Qt5 so no it's not still bad software design. What exactly are you comparing it with?

>>60751167
whats the context to this?

>>60744456
PDF import is still broken on linux.

>>60751139
Of if you're serious painter is cheap enough or cracked

>>60744946
>Furries
?

>>60754306
sudo pacman -S krita

resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: kinit will be installed before its kio dependency

Packages (33) attica-qt5-5.34.0-1 karchive-5.34.0-1 kbookmarks-5.34.0-1 kcodecs-5.34.0-1 kcompletion-5.34.0-1 kconfig-5.34.0-1 kconfigwidgets-5.34.0-1
kcrash-5.34.0-1 kdbusaddons-5.34.0-1 kglobalaccel-5.34.0-1 kguiaddons-5.34.0-1 ki18n-5.34.0-1 kiconthemes-5.34.0-1 kinit-5.34.0-1
kio-5.34.0-1 kitemviews-5.34.0-1 kjobwidgets-5.34.0-1 knotifications-5.34.0-1 kservice-5.34.0-1 ktextwidgets-5.34.0-1 kwallet-5.34.0-1
kwidgetsaddons-5.34.0-1 kwindowsystem-5.34.0-1 kxmlgui-5.34.0-1 libdbusmenu-qt5-0.9.3+16.04.20160218-1 libraw-0.18.2-1
media-player-info-22-2 phonon-qt5-4.9.1-2 qt5-script-5.8.0-1 qt5-speech-5.8.0-2 solid-5.34.0-1 sonnet-5.34.0-1 krita-3.1.3-1

Total Download Size: 45,39 MiB
Total Installed Size: 196,25 MiB

Not fucking OK

>>60754627
Just go on the official website and download the appimage you retard.

>>60744456

The goddamn eraser doesn't work like a regular fucking eraser fucking god fucking damn it.

Completely ruins my workflow because every other program has always had a separate tool entirely to remove pigment but they want to be more... I don't know what they want.

In theory being able to make any brush an eraser would be nice but you can only switch between two brushes with a keyboard shortcut. Also it's your last two picked brushes so it can change and you'll forget and then draw ontop with a brush that might not even be a fucking eraser.

God damnit. And drawpile has decided to do the same goddamn useless thing.

Also it's UI is a cluttered mess and half the options make no sense without some tutorial or manual.

Also the UI is tiny on high-dpi displays. You can make certain buttons larger but the text and menu items and windows are all tiny still making it hard of use.

>>60744456
>dependencies
at least we have appimages, but still.
Also pen smoothing is lagging on windows. Not sure whose fault is it since it works fine on linux

I can name a few, but
>default hotkey configuration
But this seems to be a problem with most OSS alternatives... at least I can take the hour and a half to locate and change them.
Took me a while to figure out remapping ctrl. Sort of.
As well, there's a ton of 'uncomfortabilities' within the software - small quirks that were probably included by developers who don't really use drawing software. But I still use it, as it's the best I can get for Memenix

>>60745217
Bug reports in the KDE world is useless at best and normally just an exercise in convoluted frustration.

>>60754409
Pepper and Carrot

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>Name one thing wrong with Krita

Furfag mascot.

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>>60754555
He means the Mascot. But Kiki really isn't furfag material (too robotic), which is why there's so little porn of her.

>>60744456
As far as I know, Krita does not have a good way to warp the canvas to aid with creating depth.
Take a look at how it impacts the work of one of my favorite modern artists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98xKUXep7GQ

>>60747849
Windows is your problem nigger

>>60747500
>>60749227
>>60755160

these

>Crack Photoshop
>Never have to worry about anything ever again
Boy am I sure I went this route.

>>60755988
Until the binary breaks on modern systems, you mean.

>>60755605
I'd dick it

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The problem with gimp is that it's the programmer's solution to an artist's problem. And even then, it's no Emacs. Although, does it still support guile?

Krita is great but:
>lags on windows
>dependency hell on linux
Appimages kind of deal with the #2 problem but i really think that they could reduce the dependencies, so that people can compile newer versions of it easily on older or more stable systems.
I think inkscape is also going in the right direction, but they need to release stable builds more frequently. Its great for making simple illustrations for LO/word.

>>60755240
>Also the UI is tiny on high-dpi displays. You can make certain buttons larger but the text and menu items and windows are all tiny still making it hard of use.
What's the point of HiDPI displays? Instead of having your regular GUI, everything is scaled up so it ends up looking exactly the same.

It's a waste of money and energy, if you ask me.

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>>60745028
>GIMP lacks basic features

No it doesn't. It's just different. Just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done, anon.

>>60756283
>Although, does it still support guile?
It never did.

>>60756142
that literally doesn't happen

>>60756872
It's about not seeing the pixels from a sane distance in fonts anymore.
If you can't see the font pixels from half a meter away, you're an eye cripple, btw.

>>60756882
>no filter layers

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>>60756884
Fuck, you're right.
I guess I just remembered that guile-gnome project.

GIMP is absolute garbage, how can anyone defend it? Its coming from someone who used it for most of his life. I transitioned to Photoshop not long ago.
GIMP is not only lacking in features but interface is buggy as fuck and since developers are typical freetards with heads in their asses nothings ever gonna change. When you point out bugs you get typical
>WUUUH ITS FREE SO ITS AS IS
>WOW WE ARE DOING THIS FOR FREE YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE

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>>60756998
Like I said, I think the problem is that it's made by programmers, for [???]. There are as of now too few proper designers in that community. and GIMP will not be the one to change that. I have never tried any hackery with it, though. I could imagine that's where it may blossom.

>>60755655
No his problem is the Phenom II has a 62C thermal limit

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>>60756901
I'm not. My eyesight is perfectly fine at short distance. It's just that I like the shit I own and feel comfortable with it as long as it works, instead of buying new, shiny shit every year.

Funny how everyone who wastes money on products like that always come up with bullshit excuses like these:
>I need this useless HiDPI monitor because I have 9001/9001 vision!
>I need this two 600 $ GPUs in SLI because I have the eyesight of a trained jet pilot and can totally see the difference between 120 and 118 FPS!
>I need this 6"+ pone because my hands are totally 8" or more in length!
>I need this new 10000 $ sound equipment because my ears are magical and can hear frequencies that don't even exist!

You're not fooling anyone. Just accept it's consumerism.

>>60757097
>62C thermal limit

nope. everything runs else fine. and it can reach 75C

>>60744456
no support for animation

>>60757140
It has though.

>>60756872

I'm an artist and I'm an artist.

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yeah

>>60744456
Pen detection broken on surfacebook

>>60757174
>>60757164
nevermind then

>>60745028
I have baby duck syndrome and it's everybody else's fault.

>>60744456
It takes a shit when I open a video and put it on full screen. Happens on 3 computers.

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>>60744456
Nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHBg91k8zo

>one thing
Text editing is trash
Pens quick select wheel doesn't save shit
Asks too many questions the default answer is good enough for, stuff should be in options if the user wants to change it
GMICS is slow to preview
Crashes make you lose work, no autosave stuff? Didn't for me

It's better than gimp because gimp took out the desktop mode which made it usable without random lost panels.

DPI scaling

>>60745028
>gimp's ui is fucking retarded and lacks basic features,

What are these basic features you speak of?

>krita at least looks and feels similar to ps

Have you tried using gimp in single window mode?

>>60757971
>What are these basic features you speak of?
Gimp lacks a lot of non-destructive editing stuff like filter layers.

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>>60757701

>>60747849
You can afford a Cintiq but not a better processor+motherboard?

>>60757117
Fuck you, I've been using 144hz ever since it came out (downscale high-hz crts beforehand) and have been playing competitive vq3+cpma at a decent 120fps lock as far as I can fucking recall and I'm goddamn 30 years old. Not the poster you were replying to btw, just responding to your 'jet pilot eyesight' statement. All else makes sense (aside from audio equipment, analog vs digital is really the only big thing. Dont fuck me with "b-but digital is close enough!" no it fucking isn't and will never be, cunt)

>>60757276

Install the ntrig drivers you retard.

What do you guys use for photo manip?

The brush engines, while better than GIMP, are still worse than every other software available.

Painting is laggy as fuck when drawing anything bigger than a thumbnail, instant preview mode just results in inaccurate brush strokes.

TWO separate keyboard shortcut sections for absolutely no logical reason that don't check binds between them resulting in the ability to bind a key to perform two actions at once.

Devs operate on a "lel works on my machine :^)" philosophy when it comes to bug fixing.

Furries.

>>60758858
why is motherboard quality relevant at all if it has all the features you need?

>>60745069
does Krita not have a color toggle? I use CSP and mapped one of my express keys to the C key, which switches between the current color and transparent (meaning it's an erase with all of the brush's properties).

Then I just keep my hand on the keys and toggle colors as I go. Don't even need a keyboard most of the time. It's dramatically increased my workflow.

It's bloated shit compared to painttoolsai, there's a reason it's non-free

FOSS art tools are a joke

>>60757117
>I'm not. My eyesight is perfectly fine at short distance.
It isn't, anon. You're crippled.
Can't everybody be a total superhuman like me.
> It's just that I like the shit I own and feel comfortable with it as long as it works, instead of buying new, shiny shit every year.
And who exactly forces you to buy that?

>>60757040
> I have never tried any hackery with it, though. I could imagine that's where it may blossom.

That's also meh-tier, in particular the documentation, just like you would expect from a gnome-adjacent project.

For example, they have two scripting languages for automating stuff, tiny scheme and python.
Tiny scheme was first, so it has documentation at all, python has "it's basically like in scheme just more pythonic whatchimacallit"

>>60762210
The window manager is the reason for bloat.

>>60760796

The devs are also incapable of handling criticism.

They actively ban people from irc, discussions and the subreddit if you day anything bad about the program.

One actually threw a hissy fit and deleted dozens of threads on leddit asking about brushes, the eraser and how it functions and told everyone more or less that they are always going to stay the same.

>>60762270
Honestly I don't get why they would ever want python for such a thing in the first place. Any lisp dialect is fine and from personal experience more suited.

>>60762805
Is there any hope for krita

>>60762811
It's programmed in python solely? No wonder it runs like crap.

>>60763204
I dunno, but it is in parts, that I know. Idgi.

>>60763204
Mypaint is made in Python and it runs a lot better than Krita.

>>60763204
Wait- what's wrong with python? I thought it was clean coding

>>60763832
It's not compiled

>>60763832
slooooooow

>>60744456
It can't compete with Photoshop or GIMP for photo editing, and it can't compete with Photoshop, Clip Studio, Sai, or any other number of applications for digital sketching/painting.

>>60763832
>Java 2.0
>good

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>>60763832
Grabbed a random chart but they point out similarly equal results.

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>>60764001
that old chestnut? 90% of code is not performance critical. A good programmer isolates those parts and writes them in fast

>>60764484
Krita sure doesn't perform well where it matters.

>>60764624
That's not true, Krita uninstalls extremely quickly.

>>60762811
Both are pretty crap for that, tbq.

>>60763204
no, only macro plugins. say you wanted to batch resize images

>>60763448
the important part of mypaint, libmypaint, is of course not written in Python, Python can't deliver the cache friendliness required for pixel manipulation
and don't forget, mypaint does a lot less than krita

>>60763832
it's not the best choice for embedding

>>60764484
a good programmer writes everything in a fast, good high level language
[script shit] + derprecated C is a shit-tier paradigm

>>60764001
>Python
>2.5x faster than Perl
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/perl.html
nope.

>>60764624
I don't use it, so I can't know. I just have an aversion against nonsensical benchmarks

>>60764690
I tend to disagree, although I use emacs, so I am biased.

>>60755526
cute

>>60764803
>I don't use it, so I can't know

It performs worse than Adobe's tools or Gimp.

>>60764690
>a good programmer writes everything in a fast, good high level language
like what? C++? [C but different]? [Also C but with proprietary roots]? [Claims not to be C but is]? [Changing the letter does not make it any less Cish]? Fuck off. You're the reason language diversity is going to shit.

>>60765282
>diversity
Get out of here pajeet.

>>60764624
disable openGL, helped me

>>60765365
Oh piss off, I do numerics. Do you have any idea how many numerics-oriented programming languages there are? 80% of languages are shitty, OS-oriented languages of which most are C clones. Fortran 95 still outperforms almost all of them where it matters, has a clearer, mathematical syntax and keeps things simple.

>>60765282
>like what? C++?
yes, for example
>C++
>[C but different]
>[Also C but with proprietary roots]
>[Claims not to be C but is]
>[Changing the letter does not make it any less Cish]
It's a good thing you will never do real software, then.

>>60765509
>Oh piss off, I do numerics.
See? "Scientist" do not need to apply.
>Do you have any idea how many numerics-oriented programming languages there are?
Too many, already.

>>60765509
Pajeet that does numerics? Sweet, but you're not getting that visa.

>>60765607
>Too many, already.
name a modern one that actually matters

good thing I don't care about your views on what constitutes as "real software", because quite frankly, I find such things dull and technical, personally.

>"Scientist" do not need to apply.
certainly, I would be vastly overqualified to work as a mere programmer.

>>60745028
Last time I tried Krista it lacked basic features I've been using in Gimp for years (edge-detect selection etc...)

>>60758858
that phenom was working fine with my old mobo (asus M3a) and 8gb DDR2
and I moved to a new mobo with 16gb DDR3 because phenom supported dd3 too,
so why not

that Phenom is really good I don't complain because it fits for everything I do.
maybe is not good for the newest games.

Last PC shit I played was MGSV. gpu was the bottleneck for high quality stuff.
and Xrd runs pretty well. so I'm ok with it.

twitter and krita are the most cpu consuming shit in my pc.

>>60753346
>It requires 400mb of KDE/Qt libraries to run
Sounds similar to the amount of GTK+ garbage you need installed to run things like GIMP or other GTK+ programs.

>>60756893
You don't know much about computers do you, anon? Even on Windows, a lot of old shit breaks.

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>>60756998
The Krita devs are freetards and it's UI is pretty sane.

>>60769260
well that's the best one for a 13" wacom screen