/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>60729808
saved

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>>60729808
They're even calling it the proper way.
It's like they know what a /g/entooman needs from his distribution

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install SourceMage

>>60730006
This is the bit that finally captured my heart:

openssl s_client -connect devuan.org:443 ^/dev/null | grep issuer
issuer=/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3

>>60730057
noob here
what does it imply?
are free certificates good or not?

Why can't I start gnome-settings-daemon with i3? It works fine with mate-settings-daemon, but gnome-settings-daemon doesn't seem to exist. Output of

whereis gnome-settings-daemon

gnome-settings-daemon: /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon /usr/share/gnome-settings-daemon

But these are just directories.

>>60730057
>

Let's Encrypt Authority

noice

>>60730087
Let's Encrypt exists to make having a valid certificate so easy and straightforward that people will have no excuse not to, in hopes that that will encourage widespread use of HTTPS. That makes them the current crypto 'cool guys' and makes people with a similar stance on security flock around them. That is why a certificate by them gives someone like me a huge crypto-boner.

The certificates themselves aren't necessarily any better or worse than anyone else's, although they are quite short-lived, which is nice.

hey /g/, so I got my ham technicians license and a baofeng a while ago and wanted to get more into the desktop amateur radio side of things. i do already have some experience with linux

i looked at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Amateur_radio#Software_list and there is a lot of different stuff out there. i know i should probably try it all and see what i like, but its a lot. if youre into amateur radio, what do you personally use? i like the idea of a logger if it could show me the data in an interesting way, but im not even sure what else i would really want

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Does anyone know if there's an equivalent of Thumbnail Me for Fedora?

It's to create a series of thumbnails in a single jpg picture, btw.

>>60730163
Just figured this out myself:

Version 3.23.2
==============

- This update requires gnome-session 3.23.2. It splits up
  gnome-settings-daemon into separate helper daemons, making it
  easier to root cause possible problems, and paving the way
  to using systemd to handle the session
- Remove localeexec wrapper now that gnome-session implements
  that work-around
- Loads of build fixes

I want to die

Who's excited for Debian Stretch official release?!

>>60730366
More excited for Fedora 26 desu senpai, Debian is trash

>>60730366
I am! Are you going to a release party
?

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>>60730341
>and paving the way to using systemd to handle the session

My god. It goes deeper than I thought.

>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761658
>Please do not default to using Google nameservers

>Since the Google resolvers are a very reliable widely anycasted service
>which third parties are encouraged to use they actually look like a sane
>fail-safe default, hence I am closing this bug.

>These "privacy and surveillance issues" are substantially fictional.

Sorry to be a party pooper, but I think I won't be celebrating the coming release with you guys.

>>60730543
>systemd related

intall devuan

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>>60730543
don't question it goy

>>60730543
This is what happens when you let literal hobbyists develop and maintain packages. The Debian 'Security' team is an utter joke, they cause more bugs than they fix because they're constantly modifying packages because obviously they know better than the upstream devs

Use Fedora.

>>60730585
I will. It hurts me to say farewell to Debian, but I see that I must.

>>60730585
Do Devuan use the Debian repos? I want to try it but the reason I moved from Debian was the idiotic package maintainers and developers.

I'm still a bit impressed that we could have a sane init discussion at the last thread. What made the difference?

>>60730543
well, technically all what google knows is your ip
that said
>These "privacy and surveillance issues" are substantially fictional.
meh
luckily this is just one post of one (1) guy

>>60730543
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The day NixOS gets an alternative to systemd (and they want to I think, some people may have even started working toward that)
Is the day that NixOS becomes the new god tier distro. It'll surpass "install gentoo" level of memery and will be the go-to recommendation for all new users because it's a breeze to install and maintain.

You heard it here first folks. It's going to happen.

Can someone give me a tl;dr why Arch switched to systemd? Wasn't Arch supposed to be
>giving you all freedoms to build you own system - the arch (KISS) way

>>60730731
It's not exactly easy to just say no when the NSA is knocking on your door.

>>60730456

It already does, you idiot, with logind.

>>60730731
"simple" in Arch-speak isn't the KISS/UNIX way of being simple; that's a community meme. Simplicity means in Arch context; convenience, or as I've recently taken to calling it "it just works".

>>60730648
No, they have separate repos and mirrors. They maintain their own stuff, especially from packages where memed was involved.

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So, I've played around with GNU+Linux for a while now. I've used several distributions, and I've come to understand what distro-hopping is, and why it is bad practice. What I still don't understand, and why I've gone back to using Windows 7 as my main operating system is the benefits for the average desktop user (say a student) who doesn't necessarily need the security benefits (apart from securing tax information, theses, and personal information with GPG against your average thief at a tertiary campus) or the FOSS use-case for customization and code corroboration.
I'm really fine with Google, Microsoft, even the whole botnet meme selling and reselling my metadata to generate some of their income - not only that but to at least provide more relevant advertising - even though I use Fair Ads and Scriptish on most websites. I even attended a one day seminar by Thomas P. Keenan on his book 'Technocreep'. It was interesting, and I understood the implication for privacy and compartmentalizing your technology platform use (for instance, using a cell-phone for SMS and voice-calls, an eBook for PDF reading, Facebook for reconnecting to old friends and social networking but not blogging; similar to the UNIX philosophy of one program per function and why people are hating on systemd).
I'm just not convinced. Even right now, I'm setting up an UberStudent guest OS on my machine, and I don't know why I'm wasting my time with it when alternativeto provides me with all of the FOSS and libre software I need to avoid spending more money on proprietary software, and give me a slight assurance of some added security.
Just, why should I bother? WINE is horrible, and PlayOnLinux is annoying. Sure, I could have Windows as a guest OS, but why would I bother when can accomplish all of the same tasks under a penguin OS when I can just use Windows alone.
Are we all just deluding ourselves with the benefits of 'security, privacy, & FOSS' to justify tinkering with other GUIs?

>>60730761
Friendly thread.

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>>60730651
I don't want to sound like a shill (shilling for free shit lol) but I think Devuan or rather the whole "init freedom" ideology made the difference.

My theory is that systemd controversy was quite literally "a distribution problem".
Few months ago systemd dectractors had nowhere to go. You were either forced to eat up your bowl of shit or switch to a distribution like gentoo or slackware which (without trying to play down their existence) honestly noone cares about.
The level of entry for a distribution like that is simply too high for your average user.
But now we do have an alternative. Alternative with a solid base, alternative that works that you can either install right now or simply upgrade from your current installation and that's no harder to use and get accustomed to than Debian - a vastly popular distribution that most people are already familiar with.

Now we're in a different situation. Systemd proponents had their distribution, anti-systemd camp now has their own distribution they can feel safe about. But most importantly people still-using-systemd-but-not-so-sure-anymore have an alternative. So instead of justifying their choice (or lack of thereof) in a book example of defense mechanism they all know that in case one day they'll get fed up, they will have somewhere to go. So they can start looking more critically at systemd instead of playing down it's fuckups.

Init freedom initiative and the distribution that will spark from it quite possibly relieved a lot of the pressure in the community.
So it opens a way of discussing the problem that is init monoculture instead of one camp shitting on the other because of their clear superiority as the majority in power (the "lelele go back to your neckbeard distros" argument).

Everybody wins, nobody loses. What's not to love anon?

>>60730621
>Use Fedora.
this

>>60730726
NixOS have stated many times that they aren't moving from systemd, as magical as that would be.

>>60730938
LOL!

>>60730938
My melanin varietied bretherin.

>>60730621
>the debian sec team is bad, g-go and u-use the red hat testbed!
here is your (You) now hit the road

>>60730651
easy
when you call free software like systemd botnet or (((the jews))), people call you a paranoid faggot
when you say, man, a single, profit oriented company should get this much power, people understand what you mean

>>60731031
shouldn't*

>>60730989
your 'LOL!' meme doesnt work, pls stop
here's how it works: don't reply or if you really need to reply #rekt it

my 2cents

>>60730860
devuan provides a great alternative for long time debian users, especially server users. Also it is already a base for a few alternate distros, including a linux-libre one which is candidate to be a FSF approved distro.

>>60730810
I'd help, but srsly tl;dr

>>60730810
Your freedom and privacy aren't only yours. They took many generations and buckets of blood to conquer and every time you give them away you're making it a little bit harder for everyone else to keep theirs.

Proprietary software isn't only about not being able to see code you wouldn't understand anyway. It's fundamentally antisocial. It subverts traditional notions of property by making developers the de facto (and increasingly also de jure) owners of the devices we buy. It essentially stratifies society into a ruling class of copyright holders and developers and a ruled class of users by giving the former power over the latter's electronic devices. It alienates people from culture by promoting a vertical model where they can only partake in cultural works as explicitly allowed - no sharing, no derivative works.

>>60731011
Fedora was an example of a distribution that doesn't mess with the packages friend. You have many to choose from, and Debian is still bad.

>>60731140
>mess
You say that like fixing common problems is a bad thing.

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>>60731160
>appeal to the authority

Hey I heard that <insert famous guy here> is gay, why aren't you taking multiple cocks in your ass right now?

Anyone know how to change tray icons that applications use? Like you can have multiple "themes" in /usr/share/icons, I really don't want to have to copy each individual icon to every single theme's 16x16, 32x32, etc. folders. Is there a simpler way?

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>>60731160

>>60730731
>Wasn't Arch supposed to be
no
see that email which keeps getting posted
arch kiss refers to the developers who are actually doing the work
the less work they have to do the happier they are
if you don't like it either don't use it or change it for you

tldr you're free to use our shit but don't tell us how to do our shit
which makes sense

>>60731195
using debian on desktop is retarded
prove me wrong
>protip
you can't

>>60731280
I really like
>run_guy.png

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>>60731280

>>60731334
chuckled

>>60730726
>>60730963
There already is, it's called GuixSD. It uses GNU Shepherd for init and Lisp for configuration.

>>60731195
That's what upstream do, fix issues.

>>60731258
Maybe you could create a theme that only contains those tray icons you want and have it import your main theme

Also, most newer themes use .svg so there's only a single icon which fits all sizes and those are much easier to modify. If you have an older style one that actually has multiple different size png files or something then there's really not much you can do to make the process of replacing them less tedious I don't think.

>>60731359
Lets do this: Show me one bad configured Debian package that is actually a mess compared to a upstream package. I'm waiting.

>>60731386
cdrtools excuse me cdrkit

>>60731352
Yeah but my claim wasn't just about systemd. It's about the full package of what NixOS offers plus the idea of it having an alternative to systemd.

In my opinion it's a winning combination.

GuixSD does not seem like a potential block buster distro to me because it lacks wifi compatibility on just about all laptops, won't allow you to do shit like play steam games, or have decent video drivers, etc..

Don't get me wrong, I do love the idea of GuixSD and they have my full support. But it's just not going to take over as a popular distro that advanced users can enjoy and also recommend to new users as well any time soon if we have to tell people they need to buy an additional USB peripheral to use wifi and that they can't use steam, etc..
NixOS has a chance though.

>>60731131
>They took many generations and buckets of blood to conquer and every time you give them away you're making it a little bit harder for everyone else to keep theirs.
I'll grant that much. I'm not entirely clear on what all of my rights are (it's been some time since I studied social issues), and how these rights relate to the use of modern technology which didn't exist when they were fought for and penned down as inalienable.
>It subverts traditional notions of property
I'm interested in this opinion. I'm not sure how not having equal ownership of the IP, or it not being 'copyleft' means I don't own my Ford or my Hyundai. In the case of software, I think I just don't understand how it is analogous. I can change the paint, the decaling, the hardware of my Ford but I don't understand how I should suddenly be able to copy the engine design because I spray painted it and then sell it as my own as long as they are all spray painted. Could you elaborate on the supposed analogous nature of software to 'traditional notions of property'? I'm at a loss here, and I'd rather read an opinion from someone who has studied the issue than begin studying it myself by watching and reading opinion from Stallman and Co..

>>60731427
We don't describe the free choice of your init system as an “alternative” to systemd, because that word presumes all the “alternatives” are legitimate and each additional one makes users better off. In effect, it assumes that free choice of your init system ought to coexist with systemd, which does not respect your free choice of your init system.

We believe that free choice of your init system is the only ethical way to make distros available for others to use. The other method, systemd, subjugates their users. We do not think it is good to offer users those “alternatives” to free choice of your init system.

>>60731374
The thing is I'm not sure what theme the system checks for tray icons, if it even uses those icons. I used lxappearance to change GTK themes, it affected everything but tray icons. The icons shown in a file explorer are the ones I want, but not in the tray. Right now the only idea I have is literally replacing every instance of the icons that I want but that's extremely tedious.

>>60731427
>won't allow you to do shit like play steam games

Why couldn't you?

>>60731543
Alright anon.

I'm a linux newbie. Please explain to me step by step how to setup Steam on GuixSD and play my games.
I'm all ears.

>>60731575
LOL!

>>60731575
Maybe next time when you fix your arrogant "protip: le u kant XDDD" attitude.

>>60731524
you can't
unless the application is using you icon theme
or rebuild the application with the icon you want to replace the default one

you can add or symlink missing or new icons for your current theme in ~/.icons/current-theme/
just a tip

>>60731524
>The icons shown in a file explorer are the ones I want, but not in the tray.
Are you saying that icons which previously showed up as having the same icon in your file explorer and tray now have different icons after you switched the theme?

If so then it might just be that the tray icons don't immediately update. I'm just guessing though. Maybe you have to restart the tray, panel, Or worst case scenario re-login.

how can I "find" all files in the current directry that were modified in the last hour?

>>60731609
Have you ever played a steam game on GuixSD senpai?

Also, I hope you realize that whether or not you can play steam games on GuixSD still doesn't counter the argument I was making.
It's not the Linux kernel, you don't have the same level of hardware support for the same reasons wifi doesn't work.

and you know as well as I do that any newb asking for help on installing something like steam or proprietary drivers in the GuixSD help circles (like IRC or mailinglist) is probably going to be told to fuck off because they don't help people install proprietary shit

>>60731634
man find

>>60731622
I've restarted the system and they haven't changed unfortunately.

>>60731619
So you're saying they're built into the applications? That kind of sucks. Skype & Discord are closed-source so I wouldn't be able to change those easily if at all...

>>60731663
Doesn't work, it just brings up some help file

>>60730810
I'll put together what you just said in a comprehensive manner.

>I am experienced with GNU/Linux
>I have used many distros
>I understand distro-hopping is bad
>I now use Windows 7
>What are the benefits to using GNU/Linux?

This chunk of text I will reply to here:
You haven't found a purpose for GNU/Linux. You haven't adopted any of the underlying philosophies. You don't understand the core efficiency of UNIX systems, paired with the GNU toolchain.
Compiling on the platform is easy peasy. Developing on the platform is easy peasy. Packagemanager install the devutils, binutils, wget, vim, whatever the fuck you need - a lot simpler than going to a website to download Visual Studio, wait 3 hours for it to install 20 GB over the net to run a SINGLE IDE to develop code in. Trust me - I've tried devving with shit like Msys32, MinGW, etc, whatever the fuck. It's hack-strapping shit together, hoping it works. You CAN compile code written on GNU/Linux for the "Windows".

To continue contracting your post, I will continue in my next post -->

>>60731716
>~/.config/discord/linux-tray-unread.png
>~/.config/discord/linux-tray.png
>/opt/discord/share/discord/discord.png
>/opt/discord/share/pixmaps/discord.png
>/usr/share/pixmaps/discord.png
It should be possible to override them in the theme itself, but as a last resort you can probably just change these.
Not sure about skype, I don't use it.

>>60730810
>I don't need security benefits
>I don't need free open source software for customization(?)
>code corraboration

I don't know why the fuck you wouldn't need customization. Maybe you've got a mental deficiency where you don't require things to be to your liking - that's fine. But what the fuck is "code corroboration"?! Vetting people's code in a community? And you DON'T need this? Are you a fucking retard? Sorry to drop fallacies everywhere, but you make it REALLY hard not to.

Continuing:
>I'm fine with ["the botnet"] (selling of personal data")
>yada yada I have authority on the subject etc. because I attended a seminar (whoop de fucking doo who cares)
>I'm not convinced to use Linux as my operating system (main?)
>I'm wasting my time blah blah foss alternativeto on spending(... money? What? Slight security advantage?)
>WINE is horrible as is "PlayOnLinux"
>Windows guest OS would be unnecessary when possible to just use Windows
>Final statement unnecessary to whole post

I can't even touch on this entirely.
Who cares if you're fine with the botnet. That's not what Linux is for.
Who cares if you don't want to use GNU/Linux as your main OS. That's not the point of GNU/Linux, nor operating systems in general.
Who cares if you think you're wasting your time. That's not the matter of GNU/Linux developers to attend to - it's yours.
Who CARES if you THINK WINE is terrible, who CARES if you think "PlayOnLinux" is terrible, who GIVES A FLYING FUCKING SHIT if you think it's unnecessary.

You don't need GNU/Linux, and it doesn't need you.

Fuck off. Nothing has any inherent importance - and this includes you.

>>60730810
AND IN FUCKING CONCLUSION, the only reason you've made this post, deluding your own fucking self or not, applying your OWN fucking preconceptions OR NOT:
GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THIS IS EITHER TEARING YOU APART, OR PROVING TO BE INNATELY USELESS.

FUCK OFF AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL.
YOU HAVEN'T ATTEMPTED TO EVEN PEER INTO WHY LINUX MIGHT BE USEFUL, AND BASE YOUR """EVIDENCE""" OF """PROOF""" OFF ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BOLLOCKS PRECONCEPTIONS GIVEN BY OTHER USERS INSTEAD OF TAKING YOUR OWN CASE LOOK INTO THE SOFTWARE.

YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR. YOU DO NOT USE GNU/LINUX. IT'S EITHER THAT OR YOU'RE THE DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKER TO ROAM THE SOFTWARE-SPHERE.

>>60731820
Hmm... I'm too lazy to do it that way, I have like 5-6 applications that I'd have to do that for. Thanks for the help though! I'm gonna try some more intense googling.

>>60731119
>>60731131
>>60731779
>>60731875
>>60731931
just learn to not reply faggots.

>>60731990
But I have to get angry at something, anon.

>>60730194
I heard their certs can't be used by businesses, which sounds like it should be BS but it may have something to do with location info that LE doesn't provide?

In any case I use it for my domains and it really is beautiful.

>>60731501
>I'm not entirely clear on [...] how these rights relate to the use of modern technology which didn't exist when they were fought for and penned down as inalienable.
I don't think they need to relate in any special way. Freedom is just freedom, and each time you downplay yours and give it away for little or nothing, you convey the idea that it is of little value, and that it is acceptable to give it away. That increases the power of peer pressure that those who don't like our freedom can exert on us. Maybe you could make an analogy with material resources: if a lot of people started throwing away their money and the idea that money is worthless became widespread, the money of people who didn't throw theirs away would also become worthless.

On to the second point, I'm not talking about ownership of the software, but of the hardware itself, in practice. If you buy, say, a notebook, you can do whatever you want with it. You can write shit or scribble on it, or rip out the pages, you can sell it, lend it or give it away. I think you would identify the notion of "owning" the notebook with that of being able to do whatever the fuck you want with it.

But if you buy a smartphone, and it comes with software because otherwise it'd be a brick, and you can't do whatever you want with that software because it comes with a proprietary license - then you can't do whatever you want with that smartphone either. You don't own a notebook if you're only allowed to write on it with a certain kind of pen or in a certain language. You don't own a smartphone if you can only install pre-approved software from a list and you don't get a say on how that software behaves and what it does with your data. At all times, your smartphone is obeying you but also other entities that aren't you. Maybe you legally own the physical phone, but in practice legal and technical barriers are taking away certain ownership rights from you and handing them to the developers.

>>60731359
Apache, the Debian configuration is horrible and completely different from default, quite ridiculous.

>>60732050
Anyway, I hope that made sense. I'll be heading off soon, so hopefully if you want to discuss it further someone else can chip in.

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>>60732060
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Red Hat® Enterprise Linux® delivers military-grade security, 99.999% uptime, support for business-critical workloads, and so much more. Ultimately, the platform helps you reallocate resources from maintaining the status quo to tackling new challenges. It's just 1 reason why more than 90% of Fortune Global 500 companies use Red Hat products and solutions.

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>>60732166

what is a good Python IDE for beginners?

>>60732209
vim

>>60732215

fuck off with your meme

>>60732209
IDEs were a mistake. They teach you bad programming. Use any text editor.

>>60732252
>They teach you bad programming
Wut? They basically save you from having to worry about spelling mistakes and even looking up documentation. Like, C# in Visual Studio is just fantastic.

>>60732159
Yeah, that makes sense. I'll have to do some light reading I suppose. The topic is vast, I know that much. I have listened to some Stallman in the past (interviews on the radio and such); I suppose I'll start with him and the FSF to see if I can get a better grasp of the reasons why they say what they do.

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>>60732286
>C#
>Visual Studio.

>>60732209
Vim, Emacs

>>60732209
wrong thread
>>>/g/sqt
>>>/g/dpt

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First for KDE

>>60732209
ed is the standard text editor

Is there any distro that does nothing but having the ability to compile itself?

>>60730543
Debian Jessie pleb here. I have a VPN sub and a dogshit ISP router who doesn't allow setting DNS servers. I have set my DNS servers to OpenNIC ones. Everytime I want to use my VPN thru OpenVPN and the wifi connection drops out forcing the OpenVPN to go into a soft-reset loop w/o reconnecting. I know that my VPN does not work with google dns servers. I did chattr +i resolv.conf while simulating a wifi drop out and it still kicks off the soft-reset loop. Does the Deb discussion mean that upon drop out the connection resets to google servers (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4)?!

>>60732474
I have no idea what you mean, but I'm going to go ahead and tell you that the answer to your question is gentoo.
Because I'm pretty sure that's going to be the answer to your question.

>>60732500
Gentoo and other distributions does that and a little more, hence the "nothing".

>>60732322
They're having such a good timing writing C# code in Visual Studio

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I've noticed this 'bug'? thing in the KDE desktop grid for over a year. It's not specific to any distro and it even shows up on live sessions. Anyone know anything about this thing or how to get rid of it?

>>60732546
What "more" does it do? You mean things like USE flags? Because that's just a part of compiling really.
I guess you could get rid of them but then you wouldn't have any choice about what gets compiled into your software everything would just be defaults like on any other distro

>>60732644
I unironically like developing WinForms/C# programs on Visual Studio for work. However I use only free software on my personal computers.

Is there a way to makepkg -si without fakeroot?
My kernel doesn't have SYSV IPC support, and that's making fakeroot throw an error

Does anyone know a way I could set x11vnc to launch after my display manager loads?
Specifically I'm using debian and lightdm, and basically i want this command "x11vnc -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -forever &" to run automatically after the lightdm greeter has finished loading, that way after a reboot I can connect to the vnc server without having to first ssh into the machine and start x11vnc.
I've been stuck on this for a few hours, I've googled a lot but mostly have just ran across people wanting to do similar things with Ubuntu and other various display managers. I've tried editing some lines in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to get it to run but it hasn't been working, and I don't see anything in the logs about whether the script I tried to run failed or was even executed at all.
Thanks for any help.

>>60733256
perhaps make a systemd service unit that is set to run after lightdm loads

I'm thinking about using tar to compress a large directory for archiving on a CD, which is the best compression algorithm like gzip, xz, etc?

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I alrdy posted this in sqt, but no one is answering.

So here we go.. please can someone explain how this happens?

Pic pretty darn related

I bought a laptop and my SSD hasn't come in yet, but I want to boot off a Live USB (Fedora 25). However, I keep getting "BOOTMGR NOT FOUND". Is there a way for me to get GRUB onto my Live USB to surpass this, or will I have to wait for my SSD to come?

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>>60733340
?

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>>60733340
Definitely don't want to sound like a dickwad, but are you sure there's nothing wrong with your setup?
Maybe there's some alias for grep in your shell config that you're not aware of?
This is definitely not expected behaviour

>>60733370
I should note that this is a 115gb wordlist with 11 billion unique lines

>>60733377
it shouldn't make a difference, as grep works one line at a time regardless

>>60733380
yeah thats what really puzzels me, Im gonna check it out tomorrow some more

try it on another pc probably

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>>60733385
in the mean time, try this

>>60733436
>>60733385
oh wait, you want AND, not OR

grep -E '(nau.*marc|marc.*nau)'

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>>60733436

>>60732286
>spelling mistakes and even looking up documentation

In my experience, those who can write syntactically correct programs and know how to use documentation effectively without having their hand held are much better programmers.

>>60733465
well that much works as expected
can't think of why chaining them isn't working
maybe your grep isn't falling back to plain, unformatted text when not writing to an interactive shell?
try adding "--colour=never" to each grep (specifically all but the last one)

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>>60733457

>>60733498
that looks fine as well (more is highlighted than specifically asked for, but that doesn't change the intended matches, just how the regex is written)

>>60733493
Im just gonna run it on a pc with bigger storage. Maybe I run out of space somewhere in tmp? Rasp only has 8gb with a 2TB usb storage attached.

Its 4am here, so Im gonna hit the sack in 5min

>>60733522
k
worth noting doing regex matching on 11 billion lines will probably be quite a strain on a small cpu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynDcGU6LOQ

>>60732293
It's important to remember that Stallman is just one of many people that support the freedom to copy, modify, and distribute digital works. Lawrence Lessig is the founder of Creative Commons and author of books such as Free Culture. He is a well-respected Harvard professor and has published many insightful essays, which I would highly recommend.

Is there a way to make redshift change cursor color too?

>>60733707
Yes, but it's a shitty solution that you don't want to do.
Turn off hardware cursors.

>>60733780
>Turn off hardware cursors.
not him, but i would sooner just run a service which swaps my cursor theme for a night-modified set at the right times than turn off hardware cursors outright

>>60733796
Yes, that would be a better solution, but it would be more complicated to set up and the change would be abrupt.
Due to the way redshift works, it can't change hardware cursors. It's really not something you want to turn off.

>>60733356
Please help me

>>60733826
another solution is to use a theme which is simply suitable for all times
like, would a reddish cursor during the day really be a problem? or just grey out white parts, hell, if you're using a white cursor, try a black cursor with white outlines (that's what i use, and i also use redshift)

>>60731659
GuixSD users care more about freedom on the driver level than on the user level. They don't care if you choose to install Steam or not, they just won't put it in the package manager.

Also, anyone who uses Steam on Linux knows that everything is pretty much installed to ~/.local/share/Steam/... so it really doesn't matter.

>>60733836
You arent booting from the usb

>>60733893
So I have to wait until I get my SSD in and get BOOTMGR or GRUB on it?

>>60733989
Having an SSD/grub on it has nothing to do with booting into a live session from a USB

How to get rid of the panel shadow in plasma?

>>60734037
Alright, so why can't I launch my OS from boot?

>>60734082
You're not booting from the usb. Change the boot order in the BIOS/UEFI or press correct F key during boot to bring up the boot selection menu, probably F12 or F2.

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Bout to install my first distro tomorrow, need good software recommendations. I do tablet drawing/photo editing, gaming, and scripting mainly.

>>60734193
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

>>60734193
>tablet drawing/photo editing
Krita/GIMP

>gaming
Steam/Retroarch. WINE/playonlinux works good for lots of things but I don't use it anymore personally.

>scripting
Try some shit

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>>60734113

>>60734269
Take a look at your order again,then again, then again.Its glaringly obvious what the issue is

>>60734269
USB-HDD must be first

>>60734288
I'm looking. I'm really looking, Anon. Reaaaaally... Shit.
>>60734302
Let's try this out.

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>>60734269
remember it stop when it boots off of something
anything below a bootable hdd won't be booted from

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>>60734326
Cool, I fixed the order and F12'd that bitch on Startup just to be safe. Let's try again.

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>>60734342
Fuck.

>>60734361
What did you use to write to the usb

>>60734377
inb4 he just placed the iso on an ntfs partition

>>60734386
drag and drop nigga

>>60734377
UNetbootin, with a Fedora 25 (Workstation) ISO straight from their website.
>>60734386
Th-the USB is supposed to be in NTFS, r-right?

>>60734395
I've been having bad luck with UNetbootin recently. Try Rufus?

>>60734395
>Th-the USB is supposed to be in NTFS, r-right?
you're trying to run a live linux system from it, right?
you're aware linux doesn't use ntfs? and that an ".iso" file is itself a filesystem?

that's probably getting a bit mean, point is, you "raw" write the iso to the drive, that is, not as a file on an existing filesystem

if you're using a windows system to make it, try win32diskimager, and be careful to pick the correct device when making it

>>60734395
Unetbootin is hit and miss for some reason. Use LiLi and once you're on Linux learn to use dd. If you're already on Linux use dd.

https://www.linuxliveusb.com/

>>60734424
win32diskimager should do the trick

i double checked and indeed fedora's iso's are hybrid, meaning they will work written straight onto a usb disk

>>60734437
>win32diskimager
>implying anyone here knows what that is

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>>60734557

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>>60734582

Installing Ubuntu with a Netgear/Broadcom USB Wifi Adapter that only works on windows. tried installing the drivers in ndiswrapper and worked, just didnt let me use them. help?

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Woah! Linux Mint Cinnamon is beautiful and surprisingly usable!
How do I fix the "input" lag feeling? I already disabled all animations...

>>60734228
>>60734253
Thanks friends

>>60734584
i don't trust third party services in general, i didn't pick ddg because of a promise of better privacy

>>60734400
>>60734411
>>60734424
>>60734437
Hot shit, LiLi worked! Thanks /fglt/, now I can be a ThinkPad using power user jackass too! <3
>>60734584
Fuck. Time to switch to Startpage.

>>60734659
>i dont trust third party
>i use ddg the literal worst search engine,which is third party

>>60734680
i'd be using YaCy if the results were usable, doesn't help it's a java program either

>>60734658
no problem :3

>>60734627
by switching to openbox

>>60734699
>what's startpage

>>60734716
don't like its image search

>>60734627
>How do I fix the "input" lag feeling?
What do you mean? Are you running it in a VM?

>>60731716
some icon themes replace the desktop icon of some programs
so you could try that by putting them in the dir i told you
not sure if it applies to systray icons

>>60734712
>>60734757
I installed it on my i5 3570k HD7950 gaming PC on my SSD.

>>60734627
Try disabling middle-click emulation in the mouse settings?

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This thing popped up when I botched trying to mount my Android. Is there a way I can get rid of it? Whenever I click it I get this error and I have no idea what its path or mount point are.

>>60734627
disable compositor vsync
as much as i like whole images, i dont like the sluggishness that comes with it

Hi guys,
Been using one month linux mint 18.1 Cinnamon. Works flawlessly. But.. not learning too much.
So... what's next? Which distro should i choose?
>inb4 Install Gentoo

>>60734817
>has to choose between screen tearing or input lag

>>60735038
this isn't unique to any one OS

>>60734967
arch linux senpai squad

>>60734817
and how do I do that?

>>60735094
depends on what compositor you're using

with compton for example, it's "--vsync none"

>>60734790
Is your Android set to USB charging or USB file transfer?

>>60735116
what's a compositer? I'm using the default Linux Mint Cinnamon.
Also, how do I disable mouse acceleration and change my dpi?

currently running Ubuntu 16.04 yet my ethernet cable isnt downloading the drivers i need for my wifi adapter at all. on firefox it just says "downloading 352kb/1.5mb unknown time remaining. help?

>>60735083
Won't kill myself during installation?
Is it easy?

>>60735128
either way it still stays there. That weird second device stays there even if I unplug my phone

>>60735150
i'm not that familiar with mint/cinammon specifically

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>>60735038
If you have the nvidia driver you can re-enable vsync by toggling on Force Full Composition Pipeline
>>60735150
I think in Mint Cinnamon you go to Preferences > General > Disable compositing for full-screen windows

Also have you tried >>60734787 ?

>how do I disable mouse acceleration
Okay this depends a bit on your mouse, in the terminal type

xinput list

Then

xinput list-props [ID]

Replace [ID] with your mouse ID, then show me the output

>>60735225
>Replace [ID] with your mouse ID, then show me the output

user@3570K ~ $ xinput list-props 8
Device 'Logitech Gaming Mouse G400':
    Device Enabled (142):    1
    Coordinate Transformation Matrix (144):    1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
    Device Accel Profile (270):    0
    Device Accel Constant Deceleration (271):    1.000000
    Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (272):    1.000000
    Device Accel Velocity Scaling (273):    10.000000
    Device Product ID (260):    1133, 49733
    Device Node (261):    "/dev/input/event4"
    Evdev Axis Inversion (274):    0, 0
    Evdev Axes Swap (276):    0
    Axis Labels (277):    "Rel X" (152), "Rel Y" (153), "Rel Vert Wheel" (269)
    Button Labels (278):    "Button Left" (145), "Button Middle" (146), "Button Right" (147), "Button Wheel Up" (148), "Button Wheel Down" (149), "Button Horiz Wheel Left" (150), "Button Horiz Wheel Right" (151), "Button Side" (264), "Button Extra" (265), "Button Forward" (266), "Button Back" (267), "Button Task" (268), "Button Unknown" (263), "Button Unknown" (263), "Button Unknown" (263), "Button Unknown" (263)
    Evdev Scrolling Distance (279):    1, 1, 1
    Evdev Middle Button Emulation (280):    0
    Evdev Middle Button Timeout (281):    50
    Evdev Third Button Emulation (282):    0
    Evdev Third Button Emulation Timeout (283):    1000
    Evdev Third Button Emulation Button (284):    3
    Evdev Third Button Emulation Threshold (285):    20
    Evdev Wheel Emulation (286):    0
    Evdev Wheel Emulation Axes (287):    0, 0, 4, 5
    Evdev Wheel Emulation Inertia (288):    10
    Evdev Wheel Emulation Timeout (289):    200
    Evdev Wheel Emulation Button (290):    4
    Evdev Drag Lock Buttons (291):    0

Why don't people paste install codes like this?

sudo add-apt repository ppa:(NAME) && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install (NAME) && (NAME)?

>>60735250
Okay, two different decent ways to disable your mouse acceleration

First to edit the config file, in terminal:

sudo nano /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-acceleration.conf

Then paste in:

Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "My Mouse"
    MatchIsPointer "yes"
    Option "AccelerationProfile" "-1"
    Option "AccelerationScheme" "none"
    Option "AccelSpeed" "-1"
EndSection

(reboot after this method)

OR to use xinput, in terminal:

xinput set-prop 8 'Device Accel Profile' -1

and

xinput set-prop 8 'Device Accel Constant Deceleration' 2

To make the xinput method last after reboot, add both of those xinput commands to the startup programs application that comes with Ubuntu/Mint

>>60735389
>xinput set-prop 8 'Device Accel Constant Deceleration' 2
On my machine, I found this made mouse input kind of shitty, like low quality if that makes sense. Instead I used:

'libinput Accel Speed' -0.635246

I think since my system is using libinput (I don't even know).

>>60735422
P.s. -0.635246 was what I had previous set through cinnamon when I switched to i3

>>60735422
If your system is using libinput then you could just put

Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "My Mouse"
    Driver "libinput"
    MatchIsPointer "yes"
    Option "AccelProfile" "flat"
EndSection

in your 50-mouse-acceleration.conf

The other anon didn't seem to be using libinput

>>60735453
Ah okay

>>60734790
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

>>60734790
>>60735537
Honestly yea try rebooting
>>60734782
>SSD
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd

I got my wacom tablet working with Arch! Pressure feels a bit weird, though, may have to tweak that.

>>60731280
>Let's throw every race that matters and a few women in our company.

Every fucking time.

>>60735603
Nice!

>>60732961
>I use only free software on my personal computers.
You are on /g/. We do not need to know you are a tinfoil hat wearing neckbeard NEET. It is implied.

>friendly thread
That is being kind for shit like this.

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Just finished writing a program for colored bandwidth monitoring with i3blocks. I'm only a few weeks into Linux and C programming and I'm absolutely loving it! You guys convinced me to switch to it and I don't regret it one bit.

>>60730726
Redpill me on NixOS

>>60735724
kill yourself

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How do I get thumbnail support for 4chan..?

>>60735965
No, lol

>>60735724
What else do you have in your i3bar?

All I have is disk space, local time, volumeicon, cbatticon, nm-applet and fcitx.

It still feels mostly empty but I can't find anything useful to put there.

>>60733340
>>60733370
>>60733375
>>60733436
>>60733465
>>60733498

>cat

>>60736346
battery draw
cpu usage
gpu usage
estimated battery life remaining
weather
weather in japan
time in japan

>>60736375
>weather
That sounds fairly useful.

I'll look into it.

>>60736393
kek

>>60735724
GNU/Linux*

>>60735724
If you want one more idea: Display the current song title, colored by elapsed time.

>>60736458
Made exactly this a while back for mpd.

    title="$(mpc current)"
    length="${#title}"
    percent="$(mpc | sed '/playing\|paused/!d; s/.*(\(.*\)%)/\1/')"
    offset="$((length * percent / 100))"
    printf -- '%s\e[33m%s\n' "${title:0:offset}" "${title:offset}"

>>60736346
At the moment just bandwidth, battery % and the date/time. I'm gonna add CPU usage and whatnot soon.

>>60736458
Hey that's a pretty good idea, I might do that. Weather too. Though on my laptop I'm gonna keep it minimal to maximize battery life (even if it's only an extra 10 seconds).

>>60735966
You actually can get thumbnails for those small icons next to the files.

That's built natively into the filepicker. The only issue is they're fucking thumbnails for ants, which makes it all the more infuriating. Almost like they're dangling a carrot in front of our face but just refusing to increase the size of the thumbnail display. It's fucking retarded.

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>>60735966
>>60735966
KDE

What's the name of the Linux kernel in Fedora's repositories? I wanted to look it up and see which version they have, but there's nothing called Linux in one of their websites where you can search for packages.

>>60736839
How do I install that on Linux Mint Cinammon?

>>60736872
Uninstall that and install Kubuntu or something

>>60736893
kubuntu is ugly as h&ck

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>>60736893
Downloaded Dolphin but it doesn't any icons!

>>60736925
The file browser you install has nothing to do with the "filepicker" used by Firefox. Dolphin is a file browser.

>>60736944
Gee, Linux sure is tough to use!

>>60736993
There are certain things that need some cleaning up and standardization. But who has the time?

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Hi. Posting using remote input via KDE Connect. This is pretty cool.

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>>60735724
>>60736346
I am quite happy now

>>60730543

Ah, time to upgrade my NAS from Debian to Devuan then.

>>60736346
>anything useful to put there
clipboard manager, I like xfce4-clipman
date
volume (percentage in addition to volumeicon)

If my ethernet port works out of the box, do I still have to install the drivers for it?

How about my GPU? (AMD) (HDxxxx)

>>60737358
>If my ethernet port works out of the box, do I still have to install the drivers for it?
Contrary to popular belief, Linux works out of the box with most hardware. You'll need to install some extra shit to get hardware acceleration in Xorg, which would be xf86-video-ati for you, but it's likely you already have it.

>>60729681
which linux distro is most like windows?
So far all the distros i have tried have reminded me too much of MacOS and didnt have the same functionality as windows

>>60737394
Linux Mint KDE is literally windows 10

>>60737394
It's not the distro, it's the desktop environment which provides the look and fell.
Cinnamon is a DE that tries to go for a Windows feel.

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>>60737394
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60737409
most like windows 7, i mean
who the fuck would want an OS like windows 10.

>>60737425
i dont want the windows "feel" i want the windows functionality, if you know what i mean
So far i have tried Mint Cinnamon, Ubuntu, i have tried gentoo briefly, and i also tried Arch for a few minutes until i realized it was just a command line.
ive been on windows my whole life basically, used to be on Mac but i got real sick of its bullshit and moved to windows 7, i dont want to go back to another mac-functionality OS

>>60737426
thankyou my friend for reminding me i almost forgot.

>>60735966
>>60736839
Seriously though why the fuck is this still a thing? Why do you need a KDE distro to get fucking thumbnails in the file dialog?

So, since i left my job and now i have free time and not limited by windows software i had to use, i want to switch to linux. I had some experience before, like 3-4 months of ubuntu back i 2009 or something and about 2 months(couple of hours on weekends in dual boot) of arch last year, which was basically nothing, and i also have debian-based home server. I googled what i need and i'm pretty much covered, but i can't find 2 programs i need.
1. Gui-based sql client. I'm using HeidiSql on windows and would like to have something similar. I found Navicat, but it's proprietary.
2. I need Upnp/Dlna media/mp3-player since my music is on home server, served by minidlna. On windows, i'm using foobar2000 with upnp plugin.

>>60737540
>Why do you need a KDE distro to get fucking thumbnails in the file dialog?
You don't. You can patch the gtk one to do it or make it use kdialog. KDE is brought up because it does it ootb.

>>60737627
>You can patch the gtk one to do it or make it use kdialog
And how do you do that? Google doesn't give me any solutions, everything says to just install a distro with KDE default

>>60737645
Nobody said it would be easy

>>60737678
But how come it's so easy to change the file manager but unexplainably hard to change the file dialog?

>>60737696
The filepicker dialog is part of the whole toolkit your DE is using, while the filemanager is not tied to the toolkit.

>>60737715
But all of the same programs are able to use either dialog. Why can't you just install kdialog and its deps and be like "hey buddy use kdialog okay thanks". Like it could be an option in exo-preffered-applications or whatver.

>>60737715
so why don't we fix it?

>>60737739
you can, but you'd need to pull half of kde as dependency - a quiet bloated filepicker

>>60737752
>quiet
better than a loud one t b h

>>60737739
just use your filemanager and drag+drop like everyone else

Why don't they just fix it and add a thumbnail-size slider? I don't think that it take much lines of code.

>>60737763
>drag+drop
eww

>>60737763
and then I accidently drop a file somewhere else
nops.avi

>>60737452
No, I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>60737568
>1. Gui-based sql client. I'm using HeidiSql on windows and would like to have something similar. I found Navicat, but it's proprietary.
perhaps look at phpmyadmin
it's php-based, meaning you'll need to setup a web server for it, but that shouldn't be too surprising considering where SQL is often used. it's pretty easy to setup nginx even if you only use it for that
>2. I need Upnp/Dlna media/mp3-player since my music is on home server, served by minidlna. On windows, i'm using foobar2000 with upnp plugin.
mediatomb, perhaps. i've used it before years ago, but don't really listen to music much anymore

How do I set my dpi in Ubuntu!???
I need 1600 dpi

>>60737568
>>60737845
-- oh wait, upnp /player/, not server
not sure about that

>>60737854
what kind of display is that? a viewfinder?

>>60737872
I mean my mouse dpi...

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how to quit emacs?

>>60738110
C-x C-c

>>60738110
Use atom.

>>60737845
>>60737859
Well, i would really like to avoid using phpmyadmin or any other web-based client. But even if i can to suck it up and use it, if i'm unable to find upnp player, then i'm going to remain winfag.

>>60738316
there's always kodi as a upnp player
there's probably upnp support in some music players, i just haven't used a dedicated music player in ages, since before i got into linux

>>60737452
You have no idea what you're talking about

How do I set my mouse DPI?

Is there a convenient paint clone? The only feature I literally need is that adjusting of canvas size.

Edit: KolorPaint is good

>>60738253
no

>>60738487
check out pinta

>>60738487
imagemagick

>>60738348
GNU/Linux*

Hello guys so i've just install Debian, but i'm quite new to it. I've tried to install numix just to tried out basic functionnality in the terminal but it look like i can't install anything. i've already had some help on worksafe Request but nothing really work. If you have a idea let me know.

Thank you.

>>60739034
Hello.
More details please
thank you

>>60739034
install GNU GuixSD

I'm installing my firs distro alongside windows, does partition resizing take a really long time? It's been sitting at 10% for like 20 minutes now. It's a 1TB HDD.

>>60739091
you probably set it to format the disk or the partitions, so it'll be writing 0s to all of it. setting partitions takes less than a secnod

>>60739103
You absolutely don't have to zero the drive when partitioning/formatting.

>>60739103
Since when does formating a disk wirte 0s on it?

>>60739120
read what i wrote. i said he probably set it to format fully. i didn't say to zero the drive.

>>60739103
I specifcally selected the Install alongside option, and set it to resize the windows part to 300GB and give the remaining to Manjaro.
I still probably fucked up somehow.

>>60730087
it's a certificate authority that hands out certs for free

>>60739034
>i've already had some help on worksafe Request
You could call it that, I guess. I've checked out the thread.

Anyway, what >>60739069 says. It's really hard to tell what your problem is. I think you're trying to install that numix thing from the command line but failing? Post commands and error messages.

For your interest, I have in fact located some numix packages in debian. Try searching for them yourself. You can use the Synaptic GUI package manager, the apt or apt-cache CLI tools or the website packages.debian.org to search for debian packages.

>>60739132
It moved finally, nevermind my post.

How do I set my mouse dpi to 1600 in GNU/LINUX?

>>60739310
look into mouse acceleration

>>60739333
>fast
>slow
>no precision
just like the rest of Li-

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>>60739278
Spoke too soon, this happened.

>>60739355
Dont use guis

>>60729681
I've been using i3 and want to switch to a floating/stacking window manager, where I can use my mouse to drag around shit and stuff. I don't want any of the mainstream ones though, 2bwm looked nice but too bare bones, anything else that works fine out of the box and also looks cool?

>>60739388
fluxbox

>>60739342
Hey /v/eddit. You can configure the speed and the acceleration threshold separately.

>>60739355

>manjaro
>some shitty, hacked together installer which is a shitty, useless abstraction layer on adding bugs to to installation process

Serves you right.

>>60739388
>where I can use my mouse to drag around shit and stuff
You can do this on literally all window managers. Is this your first time using a computer?

>>60739486
Why so asshurt my man?

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>>60739433
I want a specific value...

>>60739515
You're clearly retarded. The point is that a floating window manager is tailored for this kind of use, as opposed to other wms. Why are you so eager to call people out on their newbiness? Compensating for something, anon?

>>60739539

I'm not, it doesn't affect me at all what you do. It makes me chuckle when I see people do idiotic things though.

>>60739574
>Trying to move away from being a wincuck by trying Linux is idiotic
Got the message, thanks senpai.

I'm a little worried that since an Arch install is so minimal that it leaks security features that other distros have.

So far I've enabled uncomplicated firewall, made a non-root user and use sudo as little as possible. What do I need to do next for good desktop security?

>>60739593

*lacks security

>>60739563
Sorry but when someone isn't able to dragging and move around a window on his desktop, I'm asking myself how he was even able to find the power button.

>>60739593
Install them then
>sudo as little as possible
This means nothing.

>>60739593
just dont use arch, problems solved

>>60739642
some tiling wm's lack floating window support

>>60739656
He is using i3.

>>60739593
>ufw
Just learn how to use iptables and be done with it.Tops 10 minutes to learn syntax and chains

>>60739652
>>60739642

I like Arch, I'm just not super experienced in what steps to take to ensure my install is secure.

New thread: >>60739688

>>60739642
Yeah, I know I can do it on i3. But it's crap because i3 is a tiling wm.

Is it possible to develop a systemwide plugin for Pulseaudio?

>>60739559
Just adjust it until it feels right friend.

>>60735158
dont listen to him

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:

apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm gnome-themes-standard breeze-icon-theme

>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage tty ~25mb, i3wm ~50mb

you'll be in a familiar environment and learn to select your tools

>>60736925
LXQt can set it up afair