/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60709849
10500 in 3d mark 11 - is it okay for modern games?
it's in demo performance mode

/pcbg/ irc where?

How laggy is the pentium g4560? Im gonna build a small silent pc for mainly drawing and coding. I want overhead so that its not getting maxed out by watching 4k video and stuff like that. I dont really game but i do like to have a lot of stuff open at once (20 tabs firefox, music player, krita (photoshop) and a torrenter). Are the r3's worth waiting for| when are they getting released|

>>60709890
There is none. And it shall stay that way.
There's no reason for us to communicate outside this thread.
Such things also create cliques that destroy threads with shitposts.
See most other generals with discord links.

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/g/uys, I need reliable cheap HDD for storage.
What should I get?

I'm considering to buy 2 1TB WD BLUE
Is it OK? Or should I get something else?

p.s. I heard HGST and WD are botnets
Is there non botnet reliable HDD?

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Still taking advice concerning my new build. Why exactly would I get b350m instead of this one and how the fuck do I choose correct RAM?

>>60709948
why are you worried about botnet?

are you using windows 10 and an intel cpu?

>>60709948
You have way bigger problems than HDDs as far as hardware backdoors go.

Hey

Looking for some advice or input. I'm building a pc for my dad to do 2d cad work on, needs to render textures quickly im not too sure on the extent but I know it won't be too strenuous.

This is what I've got picked https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MBby2R

How's it look? I think I'd go with a quadro p400 2gb the one listed is just a stand in at a similar price point

The budget is about right at £1000 all in, we're in the UK

Thanks

>>60709958
that ram is pre overclocked, make sure that motherboard supports it.

i dont know much about AMDs new stuff, but with intel if you dont have a Z motherboard you cant overclock the ram or cpu.

make sure your motherboard supports overclocking and supports that speed of ram. the manufacturer should have a page dedicated to specifications, bios updates and all.

>>60709918
Should be fine. Unless it's 4k 60fps. That may cause issue if you're trying to draw at the same time.
There's no certainty in that tho. More guesstimates.
>>60709948
Seagate should be pretty cheep.

Dude on craigslist selling an EVGA 1080ti for 450 bucks. Total overkill, but I wanted to upgrade anyway and that's an absolute steal.

Here's my build, capture card not included. A wattage calculator estimated I'd need 509 watts, and I've had a 620 watt in my build for four years now. I'd like reassurance though, do I have the juice to power that thing?

>>60709976
Nah, I'm on linux with AMD CPU

>>60710024
I get that, but there's a fuckton of mobos out there and there's no guide on how to select the proper one when gaymen and OCing... Halp ples!

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>>60710059
Guess it's help if I posted the sodding build.

>>60710048
how good then would a gt1030 be? seems alright but also because of the 0db factor

guy from yesterday with first build that struggled to display something on monitor here

yess it really was that simple, only connect monitor directly to GPU

anyway now it shows on screen:
>reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key

I can't access BIOS no matter what key on keyboard I press, it only shows the same message again

as I forgot to buy a CD reader I guess I have to go out and buy one now and then insert the windows CD, amirite?

>use UBS stick
the only one I have is more than 10 years old with what, 128 megs? I just never needed them

>>60710002
Yeah, but minimizing size of botnet sounds better than increasing it

>>60710048
But isn't seagate like one of least reliable HDDs?

>>60710067
so i guess figure out what exactly you need.

what do you plan to do with it?

>>60710111
There was a bad run of common units, but they're not really much less reliable anymore. I had a Seagate in operation for about 7 years without any hiccups. It still works, I just wanted more space.

Recommend me a budget motherboard for my ryzen 1600?

I heard gigabyte can't run linux so that's out

MSI tomohawk any good at reaching 3200mhz ram with smasung b die?

>>60710180
anything asrock

>>60710021
>know it won't be too strenuous.
OK. Swap to AMD R5 1600. Literally any of the cheapest am4 motherboards that has a heatsink on the VRM (bit in between the cpu socket and the rear usb ports).
Drop the samsung SSD for a Kingston UV400
Put a proper graphics card in it. See the OP
Hit up ebay for a keyboard and mouse.
Should have saved some cash, and also have a more usable graphics card.

I went the 6core CPU because longevity of the system. You can go with a R5 1500X and save even more.

>>60710123
Gaymen and coding.

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I need a super cheap intrusion protection system that can handle around 500Mb/s bandwidth from 16 concurrent users. Detection rules would be limited to signature and anomaly-based.
Any advice?

Guys do I really have to OC my 1600? Or will stock performance be good enough?

>>60710059
>>60710068
It'll handle it. Also get more RAM. New AAA titles will eat it.
You'll also want a higher res screen at somepoint.

I caved and bought an Acer xb270hu
Feels poor man

should i pirate windows 7 ultimate or windows 10?

>>60710080
You'll be gaming, so 0db GPU's are not really an advantage. I've got a 10606gb that's quieter than my case fans at idol. And need to be 60%+ speed for them to be louder.
Things are a lot quieter now.

I haven't seen benches for them either. But I think you would benefit more from a 1050ti.
They're damn near the performance of a 1060 3gb.*
*Keeping in mind for draw distance you need to follow the pi ratio. so perceivable difference between the two is minimal yada yada yada

>>60710199
msi b350 gaming pro carbon is your best bet

>>60710251
At some point in time. What I'd really like to do is build an entirely new system, but money's tight, you know? A top of the line card for 450 dollars just isn't something I can pass up though. Hell, I anticipated spending 400 on a 1070 anyway.

>>60710361
Benches for the 1030*

>>60710368
Why?

>>60710251
Oh, speccy didn't even pick up my primary monitor. That's weird. The one in the picture is my secondary, my primary is a 1080p.

>>60710398
I wouldn't either. DDR3 should be fairly cheep right now that no new systems use it. Also check Ebay for them.
8 will hold you out. Come to think of it. Fuck the ram. You got a 1080 Ti. That fucker pulls more than enough frames :D

>>60710199
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2pnG3C/gigabyte-ga-ab350-gaming-3-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350-gaming-3

this one is cheaper. same stuff.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=124&sort=-rating&m=8,18,27&L=4


alternate list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49Kn4C

>>60710404
im not that person, but by the looks of it the Msi b350 Gaming pro carbon has more power phases.

your motherboard will be cooler as each phase takes turn, will overclock easier with more stability.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144031

the little boxes the left of the socket.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2RLLD

How's it look lads? Is the 1070 worth getting instead of the 580? Is the jump in price worth it? Also, do Nvidia cards play nice with ryzen?

>>60710576
After six or so they have negligible effect.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BYAdyO9nZo
He's pretty clued on to this. Also any of his teardowns are very educational.

>>60710241
If you have to ask, then stock's fine.

>>60710198
Great. I'll look into those recommendations. Thanks for taking the time

>>60710642
I would spend some more money on the mobo to get the asrock pro4. Now is also a very bad time to get amd gpus because of the sudden mining hype.

Hey /g/

PURPOSE: I'm a security researcher and sometimes I have to use tons of applications at the same time, virtual machines, high demand scripts... And my current setup is kinda blocking the performance and crashes...
BUDGET: 2.5k€
State: Portugal
GAMES/SOFTWARE: AoE II (\m/)
GRAPHICS: I not really interested in high grafics (And I don't use GPU for cracking), I just need the ability to connect 2 monitors at least...
Clarify goal: improved specs

Where are the best cases? How to know what is the best cpu for virtualization?
(I still need to read with detail the installgentoo link).

Thanks guys.

>>60710576
Where do I check the amount of power phases on a mobo?

>>60710024
>i dont know much about AMDs new stuff, but with intel if you dont have a Z motherboard you cant overclock the ram or cpu.
Only the A320 and A300 chipsets don't support overclocking.

>>60710758
See >>60710670
He may not have looked into certain boards. But you should learn enough to find a picture and be able to tell for yourself.
It's very educational.

>>60710738
The pro4 would be roughly the same price for me, if not cheaper. I heard both gigabyte and ASRock make solid ryzen motherboards, and the gaming 3 has a dual bios in case the original gets fucked up (which has happened to me before). Is the pro4 (not fatality edition) still worth it?

Would a 1070 work well with the ryzen? Is it worth the extra hundred bucks for ~400 mhz increase?

>>60710835
I don't know what you want your pc for. If it's gaming then the 1070 should be better than the 580 since the 580 is amds counterpart to the 1060 I think. So if you want to spend the extra money for more power then go for the 1070. There won't be any issues with the ryzen cpu. There are a few memes flying around but there is no issue afaik.

>>60710361
>You'll be gaming
not at all, my original post i said anything but gaming really. Ill just wait for the rest of ryzen for now, amd used to have good igpus so well see

>>60710882
Sweet, thanks.

Mostly looking at gaming/some 3D work. Gaming will be at 1080/1440p so honestly either of the two gpus should be fine, I just want the gpu to be relevant as long as possible (so I don't have to upgrade soon)

>>60710904
The Pentium had a integrated GPU. You don't need a card.

>>60710921
can't really help you with that. Wait for more responses.

>>60710934
my point was about how strong it is, someone else said it might struggle with 4k 60fps video while doing other stuff. I question even the pentiums cpu performance let alone the gpu

>>60709020
At $25, I don't know. But at $30-$35 there are lots of superior options like the Cryorig H7 and loads of Scythe coolers.

>>60709875
3d mark is not representative of actual games, but yes probably.

>>60709918
Depends on the game.
In many games it stays above 60fps perfectly fine.
In others it bottlenecks an RX570 or GTX 1060, and dips to under 30fps at times.

>>60709958
Most motherboard manufactures have a QVL, qualified vendors list, on their site that lists speeds achieved with various RAM.
I would generally just recommend getting the cheapst 3000 or 3200, though. If it only runs at 2666 or 2800, that's really not a huge deal. RAM usually only becomes a bottleneck with a high end card, or in something like Civ VI or Dwarf Fortress. Most of the time you're going to be heavily GPU bottlenecked.

>>60710080
If you're getting a G4560 and not gaming it makes more sense to spend the money on a big cooler like Le Grande Macho.
Yes the CPU is going to run hotter using the iGPU, but with a 140w TDP+ cooler on that little it's still going to keep super quiet.
The GTX 1030 I believe is only around 2-3x the performance of the iGPU on the G4560. It's so weak and not worth it. If quiet is what you're after, you just need an overpowered cooler on the G4560.

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Are there any other cases where the entire thing is a giant heatsink so you don't need any fans? I love the idea behind this case but whoever decided on this "open" design deserves a slap.

My motherboard didn't have any internal speakers, I want to be able to listen to beep codes without headphones/ external speakers
Can I buy a part to add?
I don't know if it's supported.
I have the asrock ab350 k4 gaming board

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>>60711221
It might be disabled by default so check that in your settings. Otherwise any speaker like this will work.

>>60711221
yes, motherboard speaker. its only one not two. useless thing imo

>>60710989
That's CPU limited. Sorry. The card will do more live processing things, than unpacking YouTube feeds and playing media.
You should be fine.
But what can be done is jumping up to a Pentium G4600/4620. The extra few hundred Mhz will clear the requirements you have for sure.
The uncertainty is that there's not that many real metrics done on the Pentiums other than gaming. So we have to estimate what it can do.
You may wish to have a look around for display cards, rather than gaming ones. But there's not many that can compete on price against the 1030 for some bizarre reason.

>>60711205
Yeah, dust sucks for those open things. No, there aren't alternatives that I'm away of. Calyos has been working on that for a while and it works extremely well, but yeah it's a dumb case design.
They should have made 140x280mm passive radiators you can fit to various cases. Obviously wouldn't cool as well, but the cooling they have there is actually really overkill, especially for something that's power efficient like Ryzen.

You can just get large heatsinks. There's also the complicated option of using refrigerant with a radiator and vaporizer.

>>60711297
the only other display card seems to be the 710 and thats weaker than the on board iirc.

here is this a better "if i was rich" fantasy build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37y83F

>>60711449
psu is overkill
weird selection of disks
case could be more extravagant
you've never heard of dual CPU Xeon boards

>>60711328
Yes, a 710 is weaker than the iGPU of the G4560.

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https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG35VQ/
>200hz
>1440p
>ultrawide
>HDR10
>quantum dot
>full array local dimming
>VA

other than the gaymen aesthetics is this the perfect monitor?

>>60711449
Find the most expensive board of another socket type and you're right.

>>60711497
i have heard of duel xeon builds but i gave myself a limit of 10,000 and i like the look of the case very "tardis"

and the disks i went mostly for storage over anything else since i woulds imagine being rish i would have gigabit internet and would be downloading alot

>>60711541
>change socket

then i would have to change the CPU

>>60711570
I thought it was a mocking the wealthy build.

>>60711593
no this is actually what i would build if i was rich

>>60711449
I mean, if you're going to spend that much on a PSU, you'd better get Seasonic Prime with 80+ titanium rating.

>>60711627
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VCKn4C

so like this? cause i do like seasonic much better than EVGA

>>60710344
You should purchase Windows 7 Ultimate so Nanami knows you love her.

Which motherboard manufacturer is better, MSI or ASRock?

>>60711717
Gigabyte or ASUS ?

>>60711549
>very "tardis"
What the fuck has happened to the police box since Matt Smelevenith got canned?

>>60711684
Yeah, that's better. You're wasting money anyway, so you might as well get the best product on market.

>>60711717
ASRock

>>60711613
There's a difference between 'if I was wealthy', and 'if I was born into a incestuous billionaires family'.
Would you really go, lol fuck it. and spend on thoes items. Or would you see that there's no real personal need and go for something high end. But balanced.

I'd just like threadripper. With descent parts. But I'd also work on a phaze change cooling gaming rig on the side.
It's a tweek on the ultimate rich fag system. That's not just link related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc

>>60711739
well im not actually buying it like i said its a fantasy build

>>60711737
nothing but the exterior is a non issue since it can change pretty much at will

Sup guys. I'm having an issue right now it's kicking my ass. I have a few rx 480s that I'm putting into my mobo's pcie slot using a pcie 3 to 1 riser connection, but the computer won't boot if I use pcie 1.0 slots 2 and 3. It only works if I use slot 1. Any experience with this?

6 gigs ram
4 rx 480's
GIGABYTE GA-F2A88X-D3HP
Windows 7

>>60711798
I thought it broke and he never bothered fixing it, or did he fix it but just never turn it back on? Either way your case is weak and you should feel bad.

>>60711814
liek i said i like the look of it nothing else is very important to me other than not having a window

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fcPv7h

EIGHTY-EIGHT(88) CORES.

the motherboard clearly has 2x x16 slots so pcpartpicker is lying about only taking one titan, it can totally do two

good luck finding a compatible water cooler, you will probably need custom shit

I only filled half of the RAM slots

it fits the same case, interestingly

The storage would be SAS or some other high end shit, not SATA, but I don't feel like researching it right now

Budget all in would probably be like 25 grand

>>60710021
Personally, I wouldn´t go for that kind of graphics card. I would just get a 1050. and probably go with Ryzen at the same pricepoint. other than that it looks fine.

>>60710180
as the other anon mentioned, AsRock has teh best budget cards. I have the AB350m Pro 4, hich is really cheap. and had no problems with it so far.

>>60710241
You don't HAVE to. But it´s so easy, safe and you get a good perfomance boost that it is very recommended.
>>60710747
wait for i9, Threadripper/Epyc

>>60711717
Same/same, but usually AsRock uses better components at the same pricepoint.

>>60710454
>tfw the seller raised the price to 500 dollars

Well I don't want it THAT bad. May as well double my ram and get the more appropriate card if that's the price.

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How do I reliably get a copy of Windows 10 w/o buying?

>>60711998
pirate windows 7, upgrade for free to win10. dumbass.

>>60711998
KMSpico of course.

>>60711998
>Windows 10
>reliable

Pick one.

>>60711882
>88 cores
>88 threads

>intel scaling is so shit that a single Epyc cpu will shit on that

msi b350m pro-vdh vs msi b350m gaming pro vs ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS

prices are 90 euros, 105 euros and 120 euros

ASUS has the best VRM, but I'm gonna be running only 6 cores on r5 1600.

Please advise.

>>60711882
>non ECC memory
lel

>>60712147
I like ASUS. I would get ASUS. But if you are on a budget get MSI.

>>60712160
I'm on a budget, else I would just get the msi big 4+2 VRM boards like krait and carbon...

>>60712179
The gaming plus, mortar and tomahawk have the same VRMs, just less chokes.

>>60712271
Also if you're going to go cheap, the asrock AB350m pro 4 is the best in its price range VRM wise.
It's got a heftier heatsink than the gaming pro and more components per phase so it should run cooler than the other 3 phase vcore designs.

>>60711882
Just wait for EPYC and get 2x 32 cores for a total of 128 threads and 128 PCIe lanes, that way it will go from "it can totally take a second titan" to "it can takes multiple other Titans"

>>60712450
>>60712271
>>60712160

msi b350m pro-vdh is by far the cheapest here
and seems to be more than enough to OC my
r5 1600 and run 3600 corsair RAM.

Thoughts?

>>60712553
You're not going to get 3600MHz until a bios update, and that's not certain but other than that if it has everything you need it should be fine.
I think it also has a 4+2 phase VRM design so it should be better than the gaming pro for overclocking and since you're not running an 8 core ryzen that should be more than enough

>>60712636
but that exact corsair dimm is on the QVL stating it can run 3200mhz, which is what I'm aiming for anyway, at 3600 you start getting diminishing returns.

>>60712671
forgot to add that the price of 3600 is same as 3200 here, which makes it a nobrainer to buy potentially faster RAM.

>>60712671
>>60712686
Actually ryzen will probably like 3600MHz a lot, but i didn't know that thing about the QVL so yeah go with that. Especially if it's the same price.
Also what the hell is wrong with the prices in your country?

>>60712686
Faster =/= better since faster RAM means more latency. Remember that. Ram timing cycle is important as well.

>>60712715
Not with Ryzen it isn't.

>>60712715
Latency really doesn't have much of an impact in performance for gaming or even general computing.
Neither does frequency on intel but ryzen is weird

>>60712715
>Faster =/= better since faster RAM means more latency.
Not necessarily. What matters isn't the CAS latency in and of itself, but the absolute latency which you can get by dividing CAS by frequency. Quite often once you factor in the frequency, the latency on faster kits is approximately equal to that of a slower kit.

>>60712780
The frequency is important, but even with Ryzen you start getting diminishing returns as you approach 3000MHz.

>>60712708
Bosnia and Herzegovina
>>60712715
>>60712757
>>60712780

yeah, infinity fabric (the thing ryzen modules use to communicate with eachother) runs at ram speed

>>60712757
>>60712803
>>60712802
Huh. I didn't know that. That is neat.

>>60712802
>with Ryzen you start getting diminishing returns as you approach 3000MHz.
You're still getting returned though
It's actually quite interesting
https://youtu.be/RZS2XHcQdqA?t=161

a theoretical question, to use quad channel RAM, do I need to buy specialized quad channel kits, or 2 dual channel kits will work?

>>60712850
Interesting watch, thanks.

I love this board sometimes, other times you get fanboy shitposting...

>>60712903
any kit will work, but both your CPU and Motherboard have to support quad channel.

>>60712930
I understand

thanks for the info

>>60712903
It doesn't matter. You can use four different brands and it'll be fine, with speeds across the board being set to the lowest spec of the set and latencies to the highest of the set. Just make sure the RADICOOL 9K HEAT SPREAD ULTIMATE bullshit doesn't make it physically impossible to use.

>>60712903
>>60712930

Crash course on what is dual channel and what is quad channel and VS comparison with ryzen cpu?

>>60712903
Either is fine, the dual channel kits might not be able to run XMP setting in quad channel, i dont know if going to quad channel will mess with them or not since i've never done it, i'm just putting that out there, but it will work at default memory speeds and you'll probably be able to manually overclock to the memory's advertised speeds even if XMP isn't working.

>>60712903
Mixing kits should work, but generally isn't recommended because apparently there can be issues - if you buy a kit, then all the sticks are verified to work at the frequency and latency specified if you stick them all on your motherboard. If you mix different kits, there's no such verification. Not something you should worry about, but it's definitely better to buy a single kit than two kits if you don't have to pay unreasonable premium for the former.

>>60712950
>>60712972
I'm don't actually mean different brands/speeds, just asking if I need one kit with 4 DIMMs rated to quad channel, or I can buy 2 kits with 2 DIMMs each and run in quad channel

>>60712959
Ryzen doesn't support quad channel. Like LGA1151 and all other consumer boards it's limited to dual channel.
Dual channel means the CPU can address a maximum of 2 DIMMs worth of ram at the same time so effective bandwidth is doubled vs single channel, quad channel unsurprisingly means it can address 4 sticks at once so bandwidth is quadrupled.

>>60712959
Dual channel means that you can have as many RAM sticks as your motherboard has slots, but you're only getting bandwidth as if you had two sticks and the others only contribute to increased capacity. With quad channel you can have up to 4 times the bandwidth of a single-channel configuration. In practice, for most applications dual channel is plenty and moving from dual channel to quad channel has little to no impact on performance.

Ryzen does not support quad channel. If you want quad channel RAM(for some reason) with AMD CPU, you should wait for Threadripper.

>>60713042
>>60713050

thanks guys, something like Xfire/SLI, but less complicated, thanks a bunch

27" 2k Monitor @ 144Hz for $400

Deal or no? I've heard bad things about Acer Customer service? SHould I upgrade my GPU/CPU before GPU and monitor?

Current setup:
i5 2320
GTX 660
Cheap OEM 8GB RAM

Monitor in question:

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XF270HU-27-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B0173PEX34

>>60711998
If you have windows 7, you can upgrade to windows 10 using for free by exploiting their free upgrade service for those who use "assistive technologies". Seeing as you were unable to use google to find out this easily, I will assume you may be eligible.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

hey

I bought a cheap UBS to UBS cable but when I got home on the cable itself it was written that you should not use it to connect 2 PCs. I only bought it for exactly that purpose, to transfer all files from this laptop to my new PC. can I use the cable anyway?

maybe I am just a dumb fucking idiot but I fear that if I use network to transfer the files I will lose data and the files won´t be transferred perfectly. what do?

>>60713091
Since you're looking at a 144Hz display, I'm guessing you're going to use it for gaming. In which case it's definitely time to upgrade your CPU and GPU. You have a non-overclockable i5, so it's way past its best-by date.

>>60713147
>maybe I am just a dumb fucking idiot but I fear that if I use network to transfer the files I will lose data and the files won´t be transferred perfectly. what do?
Lrn2SCP

>>60713149
Which order should I upgrade in? I can't do it all at once. Also keeping new release dates in mind

My PSU and case holes arent lined up properly. Is it okay to use only 3 screws instead of 4.

>>60713180
yes
But they should be lined up. Can you take pic?

>>60713091
Make sure you can get 144 hz with your hardware before getting the monitor.

>>60713171
what is SCP?

>>60713091
what the fuck is a 2k monitor? just say 1080p

>>60713202
https://linux.die.net/man/1/scp

>>60713208
2560 x 1440

>>>/Imgur/

>>60713208
FHD = 1920x1080
2k = 2560x1440
4k/UHD = 3840x2160

>>60713175
That would depend on your priorities. There aren't any new(interesting for you) CPUs coming out for a while, so I'd probably start with a new CPU and motherboard, then GPU and finally screen.

>>60713091
If you are going to get a 144hz monitor pony up for the Freesync or Gsync especially if you game a lot.

>>60713091
Yeah at least get an AMD GPU (if you can find one) so that you can use the adaptive refresh of that monitor.
You should probably upgrade your CPU too since you'll probably be getting extended periods of 40-60FPS and occasional drops to 30 or lower in newer games with that and even with adaptive refresh that will look bad, but you can probably have a good experience in last gen games or esports titles with a setup like that + an rx470/570
You'll need a whole system upgrade for anything more ambitious than that though.

>>60713280
That monitor is freesync though.

>>60713187
Well, the PSU is seated on 4 rubber legs and it seems I can get 4 screws in only if I push it down.

will I be able to turn on wraith spire rgb with msi b350m pro-vdh ?

When are getting cheaper monitors? They're so stupidly overpriced atm.

>>60713091
So If I don't plan on gaming munch, how good of deal is that monitor at $400?

Do I need something as Extreme as a 1070 or 1080 for The Witcher 3 and modding Skyrim? Or should I just pick a 580 or 1060.

And, If I do pick a 580/1060. should I go for a 1060 because DX11?

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/amd+ryzen+5+1600/incrpc/lastseen

ryzen 1600 for 203 euros

cop or not?

>>60713216
well I am a retard, I use an ethernet cable for internet but I can also use that one for file transfer amirite?

>>60713490
Once manufactures gives up on the 4k dream.
Probably won't happen, they'll continue to make 4k until graphics cards and software catches up.

1440p is probably never going to get any love, it might end up the new 720p.

>>60713504
Yes. If you use *nix, you can just use scp to copy whatever files you want from one computer to another(assuming you have SSH server installed on the computer you're accessing remotely). If you use Windows, you probably need to mess around with setting up a shared folder or some shit.

Am I supposed to plug both 10/18 mobo connector into PSU?

>>60713557
windows laptop to new windows pc

currently working on making windows 10 usable, removing all the unneccessary shit

anyway I think I will manage, thanks my friend

Is AOC a good brand? They have a new line out.

https://www.aocgaming.com/en/products/category/agon

Just copped a gtx 1080 as upgrade from gtx 980. Worth?

>>60713844
It's Nvidia, so you have to upgrade every generation, yeah.

>>60713723
well as for screens they're the only ones i've used so far in my life and they work fine. Cant really complain about anything, they're sleek.

>>60709958
Just get any fast DDR4

Avoid MSI boards
And the supernova NEX sucks ass

>>60713496
It's terrible, if you're not gaming 144Hz is useless.

>>60713899
MSI Gaming carbon / Tomahawk / Mortar / Bazooka
ASRock pro4

Those are all good boards, and all b350.

>>60713502
DX11 is only a problem with AMD if you've got a particularly slow CPU.
The main reason to go with a 1060 over a 580 now is availability. If the prices and availability were not whacked out right now the 580 would generally be the better buy.

>>60713956
I still play some. I want to get back into it. It would last for years. Just didn't know if anyone knew of any other affordable 2k IPS 144hz monitors. Would it just be worth waiting for Black Friday deals?

>>60713844
Eh, it's okay.
It's a bit late in the game to move to pascal but it's also true that the 1080 is cheaper now.
Probably could have sold your 980 for more before the 1060's got so cheap though.

What brand makes good 1070 graphics cards?

>>60712715
Benefits of clockspeed outweight the latency, except in extreme scenarios (like cl16 2666 vs cl11 2400)

>>60714051
Anything other than those evga's that were burning their VRMs out will be fine.
It's a 150w card, as long as the heatsink and board desing isn't complete chinkshit it
ll be perfectly fine, and pascal doesn't really overclock much at all anyway due to memory limitations and forced voltage limits.

>>60713974
MSI just uses rather low quality VRM
Some of their AM3+ boards were literally fire hazards
Their AM4 boards are better, but I still do not recommend them

>>60713502
580, unless the 1060 is significantly cheaper
More VRAM and DX12 performance is nice and DX11 performance is basically identical on average

>>60714109
It's gigabyte and asus you want to avoid.

>>60714147
Gigabyte is fine
The AX370 gaming 5 for example has solid 40A 6+(2x2) VRM and is a good board overall

>>60714172
Not B350, a complete waste to buy a mobo as expensive as your CPU.

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I've been away from the PC building game for awhile, A buddy is looking for a budget video editing machine. Would this work ok?

Any criticism or advice is appreciated

>>60714222
you want faster ram. Ryzen LOVES fast ram

>>60714109
Their AM4 boards are recommendable with conditions.
Their b350s are the best b350 VRMs, but their x370s are bad value, they actually use the exact same VRMs with the as the b350s, it's so dumb.
Also their b350s have good memory support.

>>60714222
Also, the 4GB RX460/560 has almost identical performance to the 1050Ti but is much cheaper at the moment.

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Would there be a way to mod this case to allow it to hold four more 3.5" HDDs?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2rwN4C
Considering buying this in Norway this Oktober. I'll also add a Vega 10 card, possibly two. Is the PSU going to be enough to run two GPUs, or do I need to replace it?

Also, anyone got a source on the MSI VRM issue? All I could find was specifically about their Titanium board, nothing about the Gaming Carbon.

See this for accurate prices: https://www.komplett.no/wishlists/ec66d25c-dc60-42db-ba45-fffdfbf73c5b

>>60714222
The Asu Prim B350M=A/CSM doesn't have VRM heatsinks. change it to a model that does, like the Asrock B350M Pro 4

>>60714222
You'll want faster RAM, and the corsair CX(M) series has kind of a bad reputation, so I'd consider spending a little more on the PSU.

>>60714222
A straight up no to that motherboard.
That is actually one of the worst boards you can buy, and you're pairing it with an 8 core? Jesus christ man.

>>60714172
Got confused for a bit
The gigabyte B350 boards are in fact rather shitty
MSI krait and pro carbon are nice, most others range from ok to shitty

>>60714222
Ballistix sport LT 2x8gb, or just something 3200mhz ram.

You need a mobo with VRM heatsinks.
If you want to go with the Prime board, you need to get the prime plus.

Otherwise MSI bazooka/mortar, or asrock pro4

>>60714261
lol no.

gtx 1050 ti is like 50% better.

>>60714304
You're still confused, this is msi's B350 board VRM rankings right now
Krait and Pro carbon - Best of the platform
Gaming pro - pretty shit, get an asrock pro 4 instead for this price
Everything else - good 4+2s, better than most B350s

Overall consensus on gigabyte b350 gaming 3?

Dual bios is nice and it has the best on board audio from what I've researched. Additionally, its pretty cheap and has good features.does it have some massive flaw that prevents people from recommending it?

What does the ASRock pro4 have over it? It's the same price, without dual bios. Better bios updates maybe? Gigabyte/ASRock seems to be good based on reviews, it's MSI and ASUS that seems to be shit.

>>60714256
Agree, I got some things mixed up
Go for the MSI carbon pro or krait or Asrock B350 pro4
gigabyte AX370 gaming 5 if you feel like getting a fancy board with really good overclocking capabilities (K7 is the same with adjustable base clock and more expensive)
Asrock AX370 taichi if you want to push overclocking to the limit

>bought a 1070 because it was on sale
>new games are just another fucking propaganda piece for the SJW and globalists
>MMO is either chink/korean shit p2w or fucking shit looking
>nothing that I can play for hours like Unreal Tournament or old non-shit FFXI
can anyone just recommend me anything to play with this thing?

>>60714356
I never mentioned the gaming pro
>>60714363
Avoid gigabyte AB350 boards and AX370 gaming K5 (gaming 5 and K7 are good)
Go for MSI Krait, pro carbon or Asrock pro 4

>>60714363
The Gaming 3 is fine, it's high side MOSFETs are pretty shitty but there are 4 phases of it so it should be fine as long as you're not trying for a >1.45v OC

>>60714405
>tfw don't play demanding games
>play mmo shit or mobas
>bought a 1050 ti

happy about my purchase desu.

>>60714417
>MSI Krait
good god, that thing is hideous

>>60714417
But why is the gigabyte worse? The gaming 3 specifically.
>>60714426
From what I've gathered, the pro4 has a better VRM than the gaming 3, right? I don't plan to OC much (going for a ryzen 1600), so it shouldn't be a big deal then (since I value the dual bios more than the better VRM)

>>60714434
>buys BDO
>click one button to run to this location and finish quest
>uninstall after 10 mins
Fuck the MMOs now a days are utter garbage. Gone are the days where you can just keep ganking this one kid until he logs off possibly to slit this wrist.

>>60714477
The VRM on the gigabyte are pretty bad

>>60714488
yeah mmos got boring after a while. I'm currently playing civ 5 and hots. still funny but it'll get old soon.

>>60714477
>the pro4 has a better VRM than the gaming 3, right?
eeeeh, it's got 3 phases of better VRMs and they're more easily cooled because there's like twice the required components per phase, but against a 4 phase they're probably about even.
The Pro4 however has worse memory frequency support than many other boards, I can't seem to get more than 2667MHz on my memory kits and a lot of other people seem to be having the same problem, while this same memory gets 2933 on pretty much every other board (but there's also a bios update that may make this a non-issue). and I'm currently rather bothered about it's limited fan headers. 3 in total including CPU and no speed control on the second chassis header so I need to get a fan controller or something so my computer can stop being so noisy.
I haven't really looked into everything about it but if it's the same price as a pro4 i'd say go with the gaming 3

>>60714477
You can pretty much get any board that has a heatsink.
You may run into issues if you try extreme overclocking on 1700, but for 1600 any board will do (granted they have heatsinks).

At what point do you all think the 580 will become normally available/no longer overpriced by demand?

Got a friend looking for an upgrade, but if this drought on the 580 stock keeps up I'll just recommend him a 1060.

>>60713261
2k isn't 1440p you fucking retard

Hey /g/oodfellas, rate my build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bq49Z8

I'm building a PC with headroom to improve in a year, therefore gpu is only to get by until next gen mid-range is up and going. Plan on playing online stuff, some single-player, only have a 1080p 144hz monitor.
I live in baltia and such PC will be 800$ at best, we have much worse prices and availability.

Guys can someone please answer my question:

How does rgb on wraith spire cooler works?
Will I be able to use it with msi b350m pro-vdh?

>>60713261
>>60714570
It would be 3k... What actually makes more sense is if 1440p was 4k, and 4k was 6k.

>>60714591
work*

How do I use antistatic wrist wrap? If I attach it to that metal thing coming out of socket will it ground me?

>>60714266
Isn't there a 3rd cage? Just get another cage otherwise, and put it in at the top.

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>>60714587
Get this hard drive instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex
The one you picked is an older worse performing version, and also more expensive.
You're gonna need to ask Noctua a bracket.
That GPU is awfull low end and gets outperformed by both GTX 1050 & ti

thinking of picking this up but the reviews are a bit worrying

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487332

>why not just get a 1070
because i'm getting another 980ti at the end of the summer as a hand-me-down that i want to sli with
can't very well sli a 980ti with a 1070

>>60714610
It's not 3K either
4K being applied to UHD is a meme and it doesn't retcon actual industry classifications.
1440p is WQHD or QHD, 2048xwhatever is 2K, true 4K is 4096x2160

>>60713261
1080p is 2k

how do I get am4 adapter for cooler master hyper 212 evo?

>>60714650
Thanks. Also, isn't rx560 supposed to be more future proof due to muh Vulcan and dx12? I must add that said gigabyte rx560 g1 is 125 euroshekels here, and 1050ti from same manufacturer is almost 170 Eur kek.

>>60714270
Jævlig mye penger du har.
Hvis to skal ha to kort trenger du nok 850W. 750 burde holde i massevis for en. Har du tenkt å bruke ssd som hovedlagring? Da tar du livet av levetiden dens FYI

Har mer erfaring med Gigabyte og Asus moderkort, så jeg anbefaler de over MSI

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>>60714623
Looks like you can get another cage but it mounts on the bottom.

>>60713261
>>60714702
HDTV Standards
>HD
1280x720
>FHD
1920x1080
>QHD
2560x1440
>UHD
3840x2160
>UHD2
7680x4320

DCI Standards
>2k
2048x1080
>4k
4096x2160

>>60714742
>Jævlig mye penger du har.
Tre ord: servior i Epcot.
Takk, da oker jeg til et 1300W for å være på den sikre siden, i tilfelle jeg foler for å bruke 3 kort. 2TB SSDen har 10 års garanti fra Samsung, så det burde ikke være et problem.

Thanks anon.

I have a small yes or no / depends, question. I n a X99 Quad channel motherboard, say I have two 8GB dimms can I add another two 8GB dimms of the same sku to make 32GB or do I have to replace all dimms with a 4x8GB kit ?

>>60714946
If its the same 2x8 kit there won't be a problem

To screw psu to case, should i use screws which came with psu or those which came with case? Those which came with case are painted meanwhile those which came with psu are not.

>>60714946
Usually yes, but some shitty companies like A-Data and Mushkin make major changes without changing SKU because fuck the consumer we already had a gorillian packages printed in China.

>>60715006
How about you just think about it for a second?

Will the new HB SLI Bridges still work with older cards (read: gtx 770)? Not expecting any performance gains, but my current bridge is dead and I'm eventually going to upgrade.

>>60715116
A few people are saying it works but if you have the money to assume you're going to SLI pascal in the future and currently have a 770, why dont you just get a pascal card instead? even a single 1060 will probably be faster than 2 770s.

>>60715193
right now i can't afford the single 1070 i want, let alone both (roommate got into an accident and can't work so i'm helping out with rent) and still need the 770s to function in SLI

but it's good to know it'll work, thank you

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Just got my X370 Taichi but had to RMA it because it made a high pitched noise only when moving my mouse. Changed PSU and GPU but the problem persisted.
The sound seemed to come from the VRMs.

Anyone had this problem with a mobo before?

>>60715193
oh, sorry, i don't think i was clear -- i already have two 770s. but my flex bridge decided to die on me

>>60714989
>>60715010
Okay I was planing on using Corsair Vengeance 3000mhz, but buying more a little later because of budgeting for other parts
Thanks,

>>60715006
Whichever, as long as they're the same.

>>60715275
Don't SLI 1070s man.
Even back when dual GPUs weren't almost worthless there were very few situations where SLI/crossfire made sense for anything other than the flagships.
If you want mroe performance than a 1070 a 1080 or 1080ti are very competitively priced for that and SLI 1070s will probably be slower than a 1080ti in most games because SLI scaling is not optimised in really any games anymore

>>60715276
Yeah I had this exact problem, but on an old cheap shitty bottom-end ASRock AM3+ board.

Shitty electrical engineering producing noise like that shouldn't be present on a high end board like the X370 Taichi.

>>60715352
fair enough, might just spring for a 1080ti then if i can find one cheap enough

either way i still need my 770s to work so if i can find a cheap HB bridge i'll grab it

Get a G4560 now or wait for Ryzen 3?

Guys so I got a Ryzen 1600, and paired it with a ab350 gaming 3 because of the good reviews, should I change it since the ram I'll be using (lpx 3000ghz 2x8gb) isn't fully supported? I already have the parts in my room but they are still sealed.

Juat bought the MSI B350 Krait and a 1600X with 2x8GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM.

How bad did I fuck up?

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custom full loop custom res node 202 ryzen mini gtx 1080?

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>>60715426
*thinking noise

>>60715445
I don't understand why anyone would use custom water cooling in an SFF case.
The whole point of SFF is to have it portable, almost the whole point. Once custom water cooling is put in place, it's not longer portable.

Looking for a new gpu. Do I buy a new Vega card as soon as they drop before they get bought out. Or wait a couple weeks then buy Nvidia card.

Also can a 1070 run a 1440p 144hz monitor comfortably?

>>60715542
the actual reason sff cases are created is console war autism; otherwise they would be more often practical and have carry handles

>>60715707
>and have carry handles
No... Why would they have carry handles? That only increases their size.

It's not for "console war autism", nobody cares about the size of a pc compared to consoles, it just doesn't matter. Only a tiny little spec of the sff crowd give a single fuck about consoles vs pc.

First-time builder here, this is my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pWm7JV
Country is Russia, didn't pull the trigger yet.
Did I fuck up?

>>60715759
Yes, shitty CPU cooler, shitty RAM, shitty SSD, too low vram on GPU.

>>60715759
What's the usage of the build?
If you're the kind to benefit from 8 cores you should also be the kind to benefit from higher frequency as higher memory bandwidth generally benefits those kind of tasks and most importantly Ryzen CPUs love faster RAM so you'd get noticeably better performance with higher frequency kits
The 212 EVO is a waste of money because it's not much better than the stock one, the slight upgrade is not worth $25 or whatever it is in russian bux
the rest is pretty good

>>60715749
youre a retard

>>60715797
I'll admit I did half-ass that a bit but what do you recommend, then?
>>60715798
Shitposting, gaymin, image editing to make memes.

>>60715837
>Shitposting, gaymin, image editing
none of those will perform any differently on a 6 cores R5 1600

>>60715759
Get at least 2666 ram, and if the price difference is less than 15% go up to 3200.

That is my only complaint. I disagree with the other guy that the 212 is a waste of money. The Ryzen stock coolers are unusually good for a boxed cooler, but the 212 is still significantly better.

>>60715837
Cryorig H7 or better, ballistix sport LT and overclock them, MX300 for the SSD, and then 8gb vram on the GPU.

>>60715405
Bump

>>60715874
>>60715837
Also 1600 is probably a better buy, 1700 if you're a bigger streamer, or do proper work with it. 1600 is enough for gaming, and for streaming, though maybe not streaming in 1080p@60hz.

I no H7 or better, stay with stock cooler.

I am sorry to bother you again but I am in the middle of transferring my files from laptop to PC (windows to windows) and just noticed that it is using WiFi instead of the ethernet cable that I have connected to both.

What am I doing wrong?

>>60714246
>>60714276
>>60714287
>>60714289
>>60714329
Thanks the heads up /g/uys.

Changed my build a bit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fB49Z8 thanks for your input.
How is it now? Am I still a retard?
>>60715874
>Cryorig H7
It should be good, definitely helps that it's a smaller cooler.
>>60715895
>do proper work with it
That's a check.

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I need help on a monitor.
Samsung S27F350 vs Asus MX279H.

I've seen reviews and videos but I can't decide which one to choose, please help

>>60716095
Shit, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxkbQV
Forgot to change one thing

>>60716048
Nevermind I figured it out. Disabled wifi on laptop. Finally it is going fast.

>decided on Ryzen 5 1600X
>shopping for AM4 mobo

Convince me not to buy the Crosshair VI Hero. My casual brain wants all those USB ports.

>>60716351
That mobo costs more than your CPU...

Get like, MSI b350m mortar/bazooka.

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this is going to be a big mental turd so have some tits for your troubles

my budget is 1500 eurodollars
want to gaym at 1440p 144Hz

Should I buy 1080Ti or wait for Vega
Should I go 1700x or 7700k delid stutterfire (I've always been team red for CPUs but the only thing I am going to do is gaym and maybe video edit and I dont mind waiting more for rendering than having lower framerates)
Whats the cheapest quality mobo for 3200 ram once the CPU has been chosen

Right now I am sitting right under 1500 eurodollarydoos with either intel or amd build by being a cheapshit on PSU and HDD, how much will a meh nonmodular psu bite me in the ass

>>60715353
Yeah, I returned it immediately. But it was not as apparent on the default Windows Power plan. I hope they don't fuck me up and say they heard no noise. It doesn't happen on the BIOS either.

>>60715445
id love to see someone bring that on a plane.

I put together my PC and am about to update all the drivers and mobo BIOS before I do anything else. One bit I'm confused on is the mobo has an on-board VGA driver titled as AMD chipset driver. Is it updating the same thing as the drivers from AMD's site?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-PC-MATE.html#down-driver&Win10 64
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064

Do I install the driver's from AMD's site after the mobo one since the latter is dated earlier? The one from MSI is way bigger in file size, too.

>>60716506
>Do I install the driver's from AMD's site a
Yes

>>60716417
if 2k get the r1700x
trident gskill is pretty guud and has high comp rate but on the not so cheap side, there are cheaper rams that are also fine but i like the trident non rbgs the most also 3200mhz mhh tasty, the 1080ti is fine and vega most likely won't be better than a 1080ti at best come close. So if you have the money just the the TI and be guud with it

How the duck do I go about doing this? I know what each part does now I think but how the fuck do I find what suites me the best in terms or efficiency and price?
I really want to build my own pc!!!

>want to buy amd gpu
>cant buy amd gpu
>get frustrated
>buy nvidia

im jumping off i don't care anymore it gets too frustrating
somone want to buy freesync monitor?

I've got sapphire r9 290 vapor-x stock everything, what is my next move?

>overclock
>unlock 290x bios
>upgrade to something better, what?

>he screws in his GPU bracket


Enjoy being made fun of faggot you waste of time

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>>60716637
The OP contains enough information to put together a decent build, then send it to us while precising what exactly you are doing with it and we'll give you more advices

>>60716687
op is also full of shit and misinformation

>>60716680
>overclocking a vapor X hawaii
You fool! You'll destroy us all!

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Is my fx6300 going to throttle my new 1080 ti 11gb?

I've never done any OC'ing but I probably will boost my cpu if It will have a big impact on performance.

Off I bought a 6700k and have not overclocked it how fucked am I?

>>60716736
its hovering around 61 celsius while gaming hardcore and interweb says it can do up to 95 no problem...

>>60716724
no it doesn't.

>>60716762
it will and it will a lot
>>60716763
you just follow oficial intel guidelines m8 :DDD

>>60716762
Yes, it will bottleneck it a lot.
Upgrade your CPU.

>>60716762
Even if you overclock the shit out of it, it will bottleneck. Upgrade to Ryzen.

>>60716785
yes it idoes

>>60716687
Ok I will read the OP for once, I'll be back next week

>>60715697
Anyone?

>>60716885
>Also can a 1070 run a 1440p 144hz monitor comfortably?

in what new aaa games?
no not even at 1080p
unless you want to run everything at low and have good enough cpu

gtx its 1080p 60fps ultra card
or 1440p 60fps high/v high settings card

>>60709851
worth it to seel my fury for some mad eth$$$ and downgrade to an extra rx470 i have lying around? gonna take that from my media center pc and get a gt1030 for 4k60 video playback on my tv

>>60716932
So a monitor like that is only worth getting if I get a 1080ti huh? I have a 660 currently

If i buy a used gtx1080 that has been overclocked, can it cause trouble installing it into a new system?

are overclocking setting stored on the gpu?

i dont know what i dont know.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dydJWX
(1700X, MSI B350)

Comments please.

Backstory:
- general use computer, will run Linux and some VMs
- 8 GB is enough for me now, but I picked a board with 4 slots so I can upgrade
- I don't plan to overclock, but might in the future
- video card and SSD come from a previous build
- I have a bunch of fans already, plus will get some rgb strips

>>60717084
or if you play fast paced but low demanding games
like cs go for example i would still get 120hz or 144hz monitor to pair up with gtx 1070 but i would get 1440p one and play aaa at 1440p high 60fps and less demanding online shooters at high frame rates.

Also remamber that the higher the frame rate the better cpu you need and intel oc cepu is highly recommended

any way for most games resolution>frame rates once you pass 60-75fps

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>>60717163
it won't be overclocked when you put it into your pc unless it's a factory clock. any oc done by afterburner or similar only gets applied once you load into windows and afterburner boots up

tldr; there won't be any issues at all

>>60717163
no they are not
and it depend on the actual wear on gpu (how often and how high of a load it worked thats why no one ever should buy used mining gpu with worked 24/7 under 100% load)
how long it run and with what temps and if he messed up with voltage.
Generally oc is pretty harmless for gpus if temps are in control and voltage at stock.

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>>60717218
>mfw 1700 costs the same here as 1700x in americoon land because no sales tax
please complain about your taxes to me

>>60717296
I'm europoor as well. I'm actually going to buy most of them from mindfactory. Can't Polan into shopping from Germany?

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/0af7b8221e9130e5a5c721194086595af767749ae0f0e5d1cb2

>>60717248
>>60717163
i had some bad luck with a Zotac 1080 a month ago where it only gave me black screens. i concluded that it was just a broken card. even their techsupport said it was fucked. but ive been worried that there might be some system instability on my end that might conflict with factory overclocked or manually overclocked gpus. Im new to building pcs, so i jumped on some deals last holiday. z170 motherboard, with a kabylake cpu, corsair 3000mhz ram. i simply dont know.

>>60717334
and that's assuming eur=dollar which its not
also make 15k/y which is considered decent here
there are niggers on welfare in US that make more than me by spawning more niggers
this fucking shit will cost me 10% of my yearly income

I want to kill all niggers

I5 2400k
Gtx 970

Is it time to upgrade?

I no longer get 60fps in FO4. I get silky smooth 45fps.

>>60717451
you might want to hold onto your 970 until new gen comes out, but yes I'd upgrade

>>60717451
stop using godrays and overclock your cpu and gpu to the max. why buy a whole new setup if there's still untapped performance left in your current system. you'll probably be able to gain 15/20 fps by overclocking everything, even ram if possible.

>>60717334
He isnt from Poland he is either a Slovak or Slovene and he is in typical fashion derping about usa prices.As for prices between poland and germany. Prices in poland are usually few % higher than in germany just so much that shoops can jew more but not as much as to make people willing to go with the hassle of dealing with long distance shipping and dealing with foreign shoop. It's seriously infuriating especially considering 3-4 time lower wages but that's how it is.

>>60717451
>2400K
Ignoring that, you're in a complicated situation.
your CPU and/or memory is definitely the reason for the poor performance but there might not be much you can do about it without upgrading most of your computer.
If your RAM is 1333MHz or 1600MHz then moving to an i7 wont really help much, but just upgrading the ram wont either, and also your motherboard might not even support faster RAM, i cant remember where the average overclocking boards went up to from the sandybridge days but i doubt it was good seeing as the max overclock on sandybridge is 2133MHz.
Ryzen isn't particularly good at fallout either so you're boned there.
I'd say if your RAM is good, pick up a used i7, if not just bear with it

>>60717536
Wherever he is from, their prices a shit

430 eurobux for a 1700X, that's the same as here in Finland and I earn quite a bit more.

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>>60717642
>their prices are shit
no shit fingol
the only thing thats not taxed to death here is alcohol
maybe i should reconsider my hobbies

>>60717642
its about 400 euro here in poland
and 360 euro in germany bigger difference than i would expect
sadly prices for hardware do not scale with general wages it's quite opposite in fact the less people earn the more expenssive shit gets

>>60717666
slovakia have low alcohol tax? First time i hear it.
Here you can expect to pay 4-5 euro for 0.5l of entery level wódka with premium ones at about 9 euro. About 50 euro cents for a cheap beer.

Drinking is not a good hobby for poor people.
regards. consults doctor alcohol about his life problems regurally

i also earn about 380 euro a month in full time job

>>60711539
It's shit because it's an ultrashort.
I'd rather have 120hz 4K or 2560x1600.

>>60717849
rather there is no additional tax for alcohol like westerners
you can get sloshed for 10 eur here 1.20 a pint
you'd be on your second beer with that in scandi countries

>i also earn about 380 euro a month in full time job
my heart goes out to you

>>60717892
i gave you store prices not pub ones if you go to pub you will pay 2,5 euro for 0,5l beer glass
or about 2 euro for each wódka shoot. And that's at relativelly modest place. It can get much more expensive beer at night club goes for 5 euro but its not like i ever visit them.

whats the best way to transport a disassembled PC internationally?

>>60717932
>you will pay 2,5 euro for 0,5l beer glass
you cant even drink the problems away
amazing

>>60717296
1700X is only $350 in America.

>>60717954
isnt it

when i drink i drink at home

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>>60718033
dog bless

Hello guys I'm on ~2.4k $ budget and I want to build a tower (+monitor) what's your recommendations?
Thanks

>>60718239
i recommend you to read the OP

Ryzen 1600 paired it with a gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 because of the good reviews, should I change it since the ram I'll be using (corsair lpx 3000ghz 2x8gb) isn't fully supported? I already have the parts in my room but but I could technically still change the mono

>>60718324
meh, just because it's not on QVL doesn't mean it won't work
if you already have it don't bother

>>60718324
nah. keep it. You already have the parts and there's a bios update coming later this month to fix compatibility

>>60718384
>>60718377
Yeah it seemed like a hassle to return and get a different, I'm just scared that I won't be getting the optimum performance since this is my first build ever and kind still nervous about it all.

That's the one thing about pc building that frightens me, there are so many parts and configurations possible that it's hard to trust what you put together

>>60718377
>>60718384
Oh yeah forgot to add that some people with same setup claim that ram isn't running at 3000ghz but more like low 2000s which scared me a bit

>>60718620
>some people with same setup claim that ram isn't running at 3000ghz
the bios updates addressing this came out 3 - 4 days ago for gigabyte cards
those guys were on old bioses when they wrote that

I'm building a word processing machine. Using it for spreadsheet (MS Excel) and web browsing. Intend to use for 5y+
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPVbQV
What do you guys think?

How can I properly bench my 1070 oc without the damn thing throttling? Even if my temps are at 60C the core keeps throttling and fluctuating like mad between 1800mhz and 2025mhz when I run time spy.

>>60719189
that does look pretty great

>>60719189
>I'm building a word processing machine. Using it for spreadsheet (MS Excel) and web browsing. Intend to use for 5y+
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPVbQV
Looks okay, though I'd get a 1400 due to the AM4 platform lifespan. Excel is multithreaded well, and so are browsers now days. But obviously that'd cost more.
For $415, you can't beat what you've got though not paying for windows and a larger SSD would be better.

Oh, that PSU is not worth $45 though. That thing goes on sale for $20 often. You can often find gold rated seasonic semi modular for $50.

>>60716653
Blame the jews.

>>60718634
>>60718634