/pcbg/ - PC Building General

What do you find more undesirable: the glow and bleed of an IPS monitor or the vertical gamma shift of a TN monitor?

>>60700295
I prefer IPS but I haven't used one for an extended period of time.

Does anyone know a good 1440p 144Hz monitor? Preferably IPS and at least 25 inches.

>>60700295
Glow and bleed would be more distracting desu

>>60700319
I figure that, which is why I'm leaning towards the XG2401 instead of the 24MP59G.

fuark, I'm gonna have to flip a coin if I want a chance of ever being able to decide which monitor to get.

Ips better for up close monitor and viewing angles, not as good a picture as VA that good tv's use.

If the websites I'm checking wattage on recommend a 550+ PSU, I'm better off not using a fanless one, right? Especially since I'm considering overclocking the CPU and the GPU.

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>>60700215
CPU & GPU have sensors to know what temperatures they are at, and software will ramp up or down CPU / GPU fan speed based on the temperatures in order to ensure quietness (no need to have the fan constantly spinning at maximum speed) and thermals (at full load a CPU or GPU can
heat a lot)
A fan curve is a set of points determining at what speed will fans be at specific temperatures, so if you want you can set a 20% fan speed when your CPU reaches 50°C and 70% when it reaches 80°C, that way it will stay quiet at safe temperatures and ramp a lot up at high temperatures. Naturally, default fan curves are very generous on fan speed so they never are optimal for quietness. If you put very low fan speed until it reaches 50°C and from there on climb to still somewhat quiet but higher fan speed until 65°C then your PC will be very quiet at load, problem is that if your fan is too small or your heatsink doesn't spread the heat enough then low fan speeds will not be enough to cool well your components and they might either heat a lot or overheat if you're careless. Whereas with a very big heatsink & 3x140mm fans slapped on it, you can put a low & quiet fan speed and it will still be very cool.

Father is looking for a computer to set up to a tv and to dedicate playing movies/music to. His budget is unknown because boomer logic. I'm thinking of just getting a computer off craigslist if I spot one, but he may be pissy about not having a warrenty or anything. anysuggestions for a cheap pre-built with maybe a fast hdd.

>>60700450

>I can't find a fanless PSU over 520w and even though my build says it's 469w I'm worried it will be too much, or that it will overheat.
Websites that estimate power draw of builds are often very very geneous because it's always better to have a lot of room left in case of power spikes or if your components were to be used at full load (which happens very rarely). 400+w for a 1800x & GTX 1080ti will not happen except from rare power spikes during rare full loads, so a 500/550w PSU will be very good for it.
Also, fanless PSUs are obviously made with fanless in mind: they are very very efficient (both in power consumption & heat output) and as such can deliver their full rated power draw without overheating. The other option is to get an overkill PSU (800 - 850w), since the fans of the PSU will not start spinning until it reaches a load that makes it heat enough to do so.

>>60700494
That's really neat, thanks for explaining.
>very big heatsink & 3x140mm fans slapped on it
Just to double-check, that's exactly what I'm doing with the D15 and 3 case fans, right?

>>60700512
I think I'll go with the overkill because I don't want to risk anything, or would the fanless with a UPS be just as safe?

Microcenter has a deal for a 1700x and an Asrock Taichi for $460 including tax. Any better options?

Looking for streaming/recording gaymen and a platform that'll be around for awhile.

>>60700548
>Just to double-check, that's exactly what I'm doing with the D15 and 3 case fans, right?
Both the DH-15 & case have the ability to host 3x140mm fans
I'm fairly sure the DH-15 only comes with twox140mm though.

Why the UPS?
If you want to go overkill go for it but it's not really needed

>>60700602
no

Noticed a lot of shill threads from Intel starting to pop up again, and AMDrones are just biting the bait. I love picking whichever brand has the best price/perf at the time (aka no brand loyalty)

>>60700675
i have a preference for AMD because of their contribution to open-source software and the fact that they haven't jewed me yet.

>>60700614
So this would be fine on its own?
https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Nightjar-Completely-Acoustics-NJ520/dp/B00KHO0IG0

Also Noctua says that a third fan on the D15 makes it louder with minimal temperature improvements, so I'll pass on that, but I am getting the third case fan.

>>60700692
they jewed you by selling you inferior hardware, anon.

>>60700216
I want noctua to be my gf

>>60700675
I'm buying Ryzen because it's current gen but doesn't force Win10. When Intel allows 8.1 on Kaby Lake I might listen to the shills.

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>>60700692
This.
On another note, the CEO of AMD, Lisa Su, is a doctor of electrical engineering
On the other hand, the CEO of Intel has a Polish last name that roughly translates to "to fuck shit up"
I think I'll stick with the doctor.

>>60700719
>I'm buying Ryzen because it's current gen but doesn't force Win10

anon...

Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB271HU-2560x1440-Display/dp/B0173PEX20

>>60700704
I bought an R9 280 when the alternative was a GTX 960, and an R7 1700 when the alternative was a 7700k. I do a fuckton of video editing & encoding, gaming (generally all three at the same time), also some audio editing, and general very very heavy multitasking. A GTX 960 would've been much inferior than the R9 280 i got, and a 7700k is much inferior than the R7 1700 i got in all the productivity tasks i do (and serioulsy, four fucking core for $325? and i still need to buy a cooler???)
AMD was the best thing i ever bought and thank god i didn't listen to all of my friends telling me it was utter shit but rather anonymous people on the internet telling me it was good

>>60700719
first of all it isn't the manufacturers choice you stupid nigger

second of all, winblows did the same kikery to ryzen as kaby lake.

>>60700741
You can install 7 and 8.1 on Ryzen.

>>60700754
>first of all it isn't the manufacturers choice you stupid nigger
I don't care if they did it on purpose, what matters is that I can have 8.1.

>>60700755
Just like you can with Kaby Lake, doofus.

>>60700755
And it will only access one CCX on the cpu, cutting your Ryzen performance in half.

>>60700791
Proof?

>>60700698
Yes, it would be fine on it's own, an UPS would be pointless because if for some reason it was shit an UPS wouldn't keep it turned on in case of shutdown, so thinking of UPS is pointless there.

>>60700755
You can install 7 & 8/8.1 on Kaby-Lake too, but W7 will block updates on both Kaby-Lake & Ryzen.

I don't know why that anon says a UPS is useless, UPS will protect your shit 100% from power surges from lightning storms and stuff, plus being able to save and quit before it dies during extended blackout is great.

>>60700818
You can still get updates fine, not to mention
>installing updates that have the telemetry shit
>therefore completely negating half of the reason not to use Win10

>>60700805
Then i guess I misunderstood what a UPS is for. I'll get the fanless.

>>60700831
He's saying it won't help if I overload the PSU.

What's the best price-performance monitor? Must be at least 1080p and at least 90Hz with no more than 1ms input lag.

Any advice for looking at benchmarks when trying to cut costs? Things like, if I can find a R5 1400 running a game with a high end GPU and a RX 570 running the game with a high end CPU, would a R5 1400 RX 570 combo do the job, or can you not reliably make any deductions like that?

>>60700833
>You can still get updates fine
No, i assure you it will block it if it detect a Ryzen CPU too
But there's a workaround anyway
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19

>>60700847
UPS is just to keep feeding the PSU power when there's no more power in the house, pretty much like a big battery. If your components use more power than the PSU can handle, it will turn off or worse, but the UPS won't have any impact in there

>>60700791
There are several videos comparing the performance of the same Ryzen rig with 7 and 10, they have generally equivalent performance.

>>60700863
vg248qe

>>60700778
he doesn't want to start his house on fire

>>60700904
>the shill is here again

you literally don't even read what people are saying more than superficially do you?

>>60700880
>there's a workaround anyway
That's what I meant when I said you could still get them.

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>>60700915
That workaround also works on Kaby-Lake & all of the upcoming CPUs, you baka

>>60700899
Thanks, looks good to me.

>>60700216
Is there a sub-$50 cooler that will keep a 1700@4GHz+ cool and quiet and will mount on AM4 facing the rear of the case? I'll be building in a Fractal Design Define Mini C so it needs to be less than 165mm.

>>60700925
I didn't say it didn't, but I did not know that it did. Still, as long as AMD is offering equivalent performance for once, I'd rather support them.

im battling my self going back and forward on decision to buy rx 580 8gb or gtx1070 8gb i cant decide
it will be used for gaming in tandem with locked i7 i would like to get gtx 1070 performance but my internal forever poor fag cringes on paying allmost 50% more than again i will be already spending a lot of money so may be squeezing best i can afford would be a better choice

>>60700940
Shadow rock 2 maybe.

>>60700502
Got an imaginary budget at least? Need a disk drive?

Maybe I should just go ahead and buy the biostar am4 x370... ASRock failed on the color scheme completely.
Apparently bios are utter shit on biostar though.

>>60700961
Good luck finding a 580 in stock at the moment friendo. Get the 1070 now or wait for Vega and get the cheaper 580.

>>60700999
You don't like white? Why don't you go with MSIs patented GAMING LEDS if you want SUPER FAST RED WONZ!

What is the absolute quietest PSU you've ever encountered? No fan noise, no coil whine, etc.

>>60701005
i have a store that may have it sapphire 580 8gb but yes the stocks are depleted everywhere fucking scam scams miners

>>60701030
ASRock is red.

I hope MSI comes, out of nowhere, with a white mITX mobo.

>>60701050
Snap that shit up. And if you think it is shit, you are resell it and make a profit.

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>>60700914

>>60700972
Thanks anon, that's perfect. Pretty neat approach too, don't move the cooler, move the fan. It will even fit with my chosen RAM.

When should I expect online retailers to start getting RX500 cards back in stock? A week? A month?

Is 1440p worth it over 1080p?

Is there a /pcbg/ irc channel? I enjoy talking about prospective computers and building.

>>60701126
No idea. If they are rushing a batch, a week. if they have already winded down production to prep for VEGA, than a month.

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>wanted to play games
>save up some money
>collect the parts
>spent close to $1600 to get the build I want in an iTX form factor
>game turns out to be shit
>no longer interested in gaming
>spends most of the time using expensive computer on shitpost and/or trying to beat my previous bench
I kinda feel that my life no longer have meaning /g/...

Looking for a graphics card, I have a 2560x1080 ultrawide I'll be gaming on. I know that an rx 580 should be enough to play games at high settings for now, but I'd be more comfortable with something around 1070 performance. However, my monitor is 75hz freesync. Is it really worth it to keep "waiting for vega" to hope there's something closer to a 1070 that supports freesync?

>>60701164
try a different game, or do some scientific computing

>>60701164
There are plenty of good games on PS4

>>60701165
Waiting for vega means at least 5-6 more months depending on if they are good for mining or not and your luck.

so I have a surplus dell optiplex shitbox that I want to put an HDMI out port in. Anyone ever done this? suggestions?

I don't want to just output video, I want that audio as well

>>60701194
install a cheap graphics card

>>60701164
There's always some good games out there Anon! Just gotta look for them!

Is there any way to make Windows 10 actually not track you or watch your shit?

>>60701164
>excited for a game that turned out to be shit

What was her name, anon? How did she hurt you?

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>>60701229
Sara Ryder...

>>60701269
>Excited for a EA game in the first place
Hi leddit

>>60701269
Autismo McManJaw

>>60701194
>suggestions?
http://www.outletpc.com/ic6951-xfx-radeon-hd-5450-graphics-card.html
Complicated, I know.

have an i5-2500k + 560 Ti.

I'm going to upgrade my video card to the 1060 6GB. I'm assuming the i5-2500k will not bottleneck the card much at all ,right?

>people still asking for advice on 1060 when the RX580 exists
>people still getting 1060 when RX580 exists

>>60701345
>implying you can even find 580s in stock let alone at a reasonable price

>>60701335
If it's not OC'd heavily it will, but not by that much

>>60701357
Why are mememiners so interested of 580s all of a sudden?

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I mainly just wanted to play games at 1080p 60fps right now. I already had two monitors that weren't seeing any use. Did I end up doing okay? Wasn't sure about the 1060 3gb but I figure it should be enough for what I want and was doing my best to keep the budget under 800

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>>60701388
I'm too lazy to OC anything properly so I just have it auto boosted by my mobo. Been this way for years.

>>60701412
Should've gone for an RX 470/570 because 3GB is not enough for some recent AAA games maxed (which is what even the 1060 3GB could constantly achieve if it didn't have only 3GB), but otherwise is good

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I am going to get a r5 1600.
Is a rx 580 overkill for my desired CPU? As you probably already know, the 470 and 570 are MIA. They were my first two considerations.

>>60701435
I really wanted to get a 580 but I just can't find one and I wanted an AMD card because of freesync since gsync monitors are more costly. I figure the 1060 3gb will be okay for what I want now and then it should be the only thing I need to replace in the future alongside with better monitors.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wrWzwV

r8 my shit, general computing/gayming.

>>60701459
no the rx 580 is fine buy it quick before its out of stock

>>60701533
did you even read the op you stupid nigger?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wxt9Z8

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>>60701545
Damn it anon it's too late I was too late they're all gone anon they're ALL GONE

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>>60701533
You can get a 240GB SSD for samsung evo price
The RX 460/560 both get outperformed by GTX 1050/Ti, and all of them are very weak card.
cheap GPU with expensive CPU is stupid for gaming, and i5s are a worse choice than their R5 competitors (1500x / 1600x)

Either up the budget and get an R5 1500x + RX 470/570 (if you can manage to find them on stock), or either keep the same budget but get a low-end G4560 instead & a better than 1050ti GPU

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>>60701581
wow aren't you tired of calling people stupid niggers
there's no need to call them names, it's perfectly normal they're uninformed when they come to the PC Building General

>>60701590
Question so:

>GTX 1060 in performance beats out an RX 580
Why is the fucking RX580 sold out world wide?

>>60701608
>anime
get out

>>60701627
bitcoin miners
no idea when it'll calm down
the market is gonna get flooded with used cards ;-;

>>60701627
>GTX 1060 in performance beats out an RX 580
but it doesnt

>>60701650
anon you're not gonna do that every thread are you

>>60701657
nvm i read it wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mfwkKZ

What should I add/change here? I am braindead.

>>60701399
Ethereum is still viable to mine and has been riding the same train as Bitcoin

the 470 and 480 were good mining cards, so it's not surprising the 570 and 580 are, since it's the same card with upgrades

>>60701345
>RX580 exists

LOL

>>60701710
You don't need a x370 motherboard, nor a titanium 650w PSU (Gold / Bronze 550w is enough & has lots of room for OC)
Most importantly, you won't hit 1440p@144hz with a, RX 580. You're gonna have to aim for a GTX 1080 or even 1080ti to do such thing.

Could also save money by going for a non-samsung SSD.

>>60701581
I don't want a AMD CPU. Though thats mostly based on hearsay from people saying not to get one and CPU benchmark charts where the amd processors are always towards the bottom. I have no idea if they actually are shittier or not.


>>60701590
I couldn't find a good CPU that fits what I want without shelling out for a 200$ price point. I don't really need a super high end GPU, I'm looking for the budget card that has price performance and costs less than $150. I'd prefer the best performance for less than $100 if it can run 1080p games with tweaked settings at preferably 60 fps.

For example I usually turn off antialiasing completely, turn off reflection sometimes, it all depends on the game I guess. But I'll sacrifice extra eye candy that takes up performance that I don't think is worth it. Most of the time turning textures down increases FPS a lot and the game like literally basically doesn't even look different. I'd make more use of a good processor than a good graphics card because I don't buy new games. I buy games that get discounted down to $10-$20 on steam sales that are a couple years old.

My entire computer just needs an upgrade though. I'm shooting for a sub-$800 build. I want an M2 SSD though.

>>60701721
I'm not planning on going to 144hz, I just couldn't find a decent IPS monitor at 1440p without it. I don't play many super graphically intense games.

What motherboard would you recommend?

Probably a stupid question, but here goes:
My case came with four molex fans, with double sided connectors, I figure for a daisy chain. Currently I have them them connected via two sata-sata-molex-molex modular cables, each cable populated by two fans and a harddrive. Would it be the safe to daisy chain all four fans and connect them to one cable, while connecting the drives to the cable that has four sata ports?

>>60701754
Something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qmJgcc
Could also do some further saving on the RAM i believe, as your GPU will be the bottleneck in 1440p so you won't see any higher FPS with that RAM until you get a new GPU (and even then, the gains aren't that big)

When I built my PC I picked a 250GB SSD thinking it'd be enough but goddammit games nowadays take up to 60-80GB of space. If I had known I'd have picked a 500GB one.

Is it worth buying another SSD for games or would it just be pants on retarded? Should I just buy extra HDDs? My current 2TB HDD is a 5400RPM WD blue and I'm afraid it's too slow for gayming.

>>60701859
Buy an HDD and use steam's library system!

>>60701791
Alright, thanks! Would DDR4 be the sweet spot or is that still overkill?

>>60701881
Oops, DDR4 3000 I mean

>>60701881
You can likely get 3200 for the same price. Look on your motherbaord's compatibility list on the maker's website for a list of known working sticks

>>60701876
>steam's library system!
What do you mean? Sure I have a steam and a library with games, but...?

>>60701903
Steam can manage multiple libraries on multiple disks, lets you choose which to install to, and lets you easily move games between them

Why do people say not to get the 1050 Ti?

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Heya /g/. Im thinking about going from pic related to XFX Radeon RX 570 RS 4GB XXX Edition.
Will i have any problems if so what would they be?
Also could you suggest any other upgrades?

>>60701949
Na, that card is fine.
Not really much to suggest as an alternative since they're rarely in stock. Grab what you can get as long as it's not gigabyte garbage, or MSI non-gaming-X garbage.

>>60701920
Oh so I'm not forced to uninstall them, I can move them around? I just noticed the Blizzard launcher also does this. Good to know.

>>60701967
So anything from the 570 range 4gb?
Just not MSI?
Should have added this before i normally have a guy for this. But he fucked me over building another comp and spent like 6 months getting all the shit replaced. He dun fucked up hard bricked the entire thing just rushing and buying shit on sale.

>>60701989
if you can find one, buy it *instantly*

>>60701968
You don't even have to do it from Steam. Whenever I reinstall my OS, I just add my existing library on a different HDD in Steam and it immediately recognizes the games and they're good to go.

>>60702001
Im looking at one right now. Consider it done.
Any thing else i should look at while im making myself impoverished?

>>60701946
It's a good card, but if you're gonna buy a $200 CPU it's very unbalanced for gaming

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>>60701731
If you're looking for a budget card that has good performance then the RX 470/570 are the best in that regards as they provide much much more performance than a GTX 1050ti but aren't that much more expensive, and will last you much longer. Problem is that it isn't $100 but rather $170. Low end cards are really shit in term of perf/$ so it's not optimal to get them when your goal is to save money, when you could downgrade the CPU & get a better GPU instead.

>I don't want a AMD CPU. Though thats mostly based on hearsay from people saying not to get one and CPU benchmark charts where the amd processors are always towards the bottom. I have no idea if they actually are shittier or not.
They aren't, in fact they are somewhat equal with intel CPUs but offer different strengths so getting one or the other depends only on usage and not budget anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

Here are videos showcasing the $220 6 cores 12 threads AMD R5 1600, next to the 6600k/7600 (which are the same CPU of the same architecture), and as you can see the AMD CPU gets the same average FPS but has fewer FPS dips; lower CPU usage (because of more horsepower in there), and as such much more room for running other software.
We don't recommend ever i5s in here because of the R5 1500x (4 cores 8 threads) and R5 1600 (6 cores 12 threads) as they are both similarly priced as i5s but the vast majority of time are a better choice.

What are you doing with your PC exactly, that requires you to get a $200 CPU but forces you to cheap out on the GPU?
>I'd make more use of a good processor than a good graphics card because I don't buy new games. I buy games that get discounted down to $10-$20 on steam sales that are a couple years old.
Older games are less demanding that newer ones both in CPU & GPU, you don't need a $220 PSU for those

>>60702009
Figured it out. Pretty cool, cheers.

Update on the monitor with no signal when connected to my gpu. I used a DVI to hdmi cable and i finally got display. Installed drivers and now i can use a normal hdmi cable. Thank you to all the anons who helped me.

>>60700216
>Supermicro MBD-X10DAI-O (Intel C612)
>2x Xeon E5-4660 v3 (QS, stepping 2, rev R2)
>2x Noctua NH-L9x65
>4x Hynix 16GB DDR4 2133 ECC

Assuming the engineering sample CPUs aren't a scam / DOA -- what's a good case for all this shit? I'm thinking 2U or 3U, 6x 3.5" bays minimum, I'd prefer 8x or more w/ a decent SAS backplane.

Are open world games like autismcraft and milsims more cpu or gpu dependent? I play those mostly and want to tailor my rig to those kinda of games. Also, considering gaymen is the most intense thing I do, would I ever need or even notice anything over 16gb of ram?

>>60702238
CPU i would think, for world generation

>>60702238
>would I ever need or even notice anything over 16gb of ram?
no.

If I want to spend no more than ~100 for a new monitor, can I get anything decent or am I fucked?

What's a good DDR4 mobo that ryzen compatible and not a piece of shit?

planning to upgrade from i5-4460 4th gen to Ryzen 1400 what frequency ram should i get? I've heard that my 1600 mh of ram wont suffice, so what frequency should i get of DDR3 ram? 3200?

>>60702392
i can reccomend a SCEPTRE 24 inch monitor with speakers, non mountable though,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xkL7YJ/sceptre-monitor-e248w1920

>>60702462
>Ryzen 1400
i don't think you could even call that an upgrade, the 1400 would most likely perform worse.
Either get an R5 1600 or it's not worth it at all. Even an R5 1600 is hard to justify considering an i5 4460 is still a good CPU at the time.
Also, your DDR3 RAM won't work on Ryzen CPUs & motherboards, only DDR4 does.grove manor

>>60702392
you can get a 1080@60 24" IPS with VESA for ~$110 if you wait for a sale

>>60702515
related, just picked up 2 of these on an email promo for $110 each

>>60702532
forgot link
https://www.newegg.com/Product
/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824106003

they're $150 now, but, point is look for a sale

>>60700295
Stop being poor so you don't have to get a cheap IPS panel and you won't have to worry about either option.

>>60702462
get a ryzen 1600 instead

>>60702480
>>60702544
nice, thanks guys

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The pump on my h80i died so I got it replaced by Corsair. I've got a new-in-box h80i v2 but I actually want to drop to the h60 or something comparable because it's more compact and I don't need the extra cooling the h80i provides (no heavy overclocking here)

What's the best option for a small cooler and what's the best way to sell my h80i v2? CPU is a 4790k btw

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what's the quietest and most efficient cpu cooler for a 5820k?
my current h100i with those meme cream/brown fans (i forgot what they were called) is getting loud and hot
AIO liquid cooling or air cooler recommendations are fine

>>60702403
ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4

>>60702783
If we're talking about a small radiator then like you said an H60 would be good, add to that a Noctua NF-A12x15 (120x120x15mm) fan to replace the 120x120x25mm stock corsair one to save further space, but it most likely won't be as quiet.

>>60700216
notebooksbilliger.de offers the ryzen 1600 cpu (and other models) with a 5-10% discount

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/amd+ryzen+5+1600/?nbb=pn.md#Q4C8


1600 costs 204 euros

>>60702875
You have noctua fans. And what are your fan settings at? Also are you sure the pump isn't making the noise? It could be dying

>>60702875

Get a 360mm radiator. More surface area = lower fan speeds.

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>tfw went from an i3-4170 to an R5 1600

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>>60703530
iktf
>Athlon X2 to 7700K

>People selling USED Rx580 for the same price as 1070
All my fucking keks

>>60701126
end of june according to insider information from retailers buy fucking coin miners will buy them up to so you have to act fast when the supply hit the shelfs

but what is even more terrifying is how it will affect vega lounch on top of amd problems with low numbers of hbms and low supply coin miners will rush for vegas like a herd of hungry wolfs prices will scy rocket and allmost no one will get wega for gaming till late this year at with point volta will be upon us thus again thanks to amd own problems and thanks to fucking coin miners making sure that nvidia will keep its undisputed gaming champion status.Card are selling but dispite that its not a good situation for amd. Also wish you luck buing decend second hand amd gpu.
>"totally not abused never mined never over heat only used for 1h of light games a day totally man 100% legit trust me"
>regards asshole selling 50 of "lightly used gaming gpus"

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>>60703697
and is so good at price to compute performance ratio that it's biting them in the ass

>>60703697
We have no idea if Vega is good for mining or not yet since RTG did say they want to spec their cards for gaming.

XB271HU or PG27q?

Why did the 500's all dissappear? I mean I know because of miners but did something find something golden with them or something?

>>60704012
And asking cause was gonna go ahead with a 580 after the vega delay but holy shit they're all gone.

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>>60704012
>>60704043
Miners mining the latest craze, Eth.
It is close to tripling its value in 3 weeks. (90 -> 220 USD).

>>60704090
Dang. This is double shit. First Vega, now this. I literally have all my set up sitting in a corner with a 1600x other then memory and gpu, and I just waited because of Vega.

I blame AMD for Vega but goddamn I don't want to buy some shitty 1060 right now.

>>60704126
It your situation it is either ponying up for 1070, trying to get a 580 on restock or waiting for the Vega to flood the market and buying "used" 580 or Vega itself.

>>60701633
>being new
get out

Is there an AMD card that even comes close to the 1080ti? I'd rather buy AMD but I heard they targeted the low end this time.

>>60704215
No, the GTX 1080, Ti & Titan X Pascal have no competitors.
The entreprise Vega shown has pretty similar performance to the Ti in Sniper Elite 4 in 4K though (70~ FPS in the same part), but who knows how it will be priced

servers?

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I just bought this thing since it was marked down to $40. Don't even know what the hell to do with it. I've never used a stand mic but I figured it seemed like a good enough deal that I ought to pick one up.

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How did I do, guys ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s7TZ3F

>>60704423

What are you some kind of youtube fag ?

>>60704564
nope just saw an expensive mic + watch dogs 2 for $40 and free shipping.

>>60704580

So you basically have zero use case for it ? Do you at least frequent circle jerk teamspeak servers ?

>>60704593
Nope I don't. The mic without watch dogs goes for $115 on ebay

>>60704599

... sell it ?

Is there an AMD card that even comes close to the 1080ti? I'd rather buy AMD but I heard they targeted the low end this time.

>>60704551
>seagate HDD
Other than that I see no problems, and I hear Seagate isn't such a shit recently.

>>60704710

Currently not. Vega will be their high end line.

>>60704710
you asked that already 54 minutes ago

>>60704551
>white case
>red and black board

>>60704731

>posh, unassuming exterior
>dark and intimidating interior

Just like me, heh. *teleprots away*

>>60704716

It's only for stuff I'm actively using. I have three backed up 5TB drives for actual storage. Thanks for the input.

>>60704731
It's a place holder for the first Ryzen board with proper iommu groupings. Also I'm not gay.

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What do I need to know about Ryzen and RAM speeds? My plan is to get pic related to replace my X58 setup eventually, but anything faster than 2400mhz RAM is heinously expensive, and I hear that faster RAM is better for Ryzen. Does DDR4 overclock that well? Am I better off just getting an 1151 setup if I can't pony up for fast RAM?

Prices are in AUD.

>>60704730
Fuck, I came back to it still in the post box and assumed it didn't post.

>>60704810

>2x4 gigs
>100 AUD

What the fuck you poor cunt. 130 burgers will buy you 16 gigs of 3000z.

>>60704854
Aside from storage and most mobos, everything else typically costs double in AUS/NZ.
MSI 1080ti founder NZ = 1198, US is 680~

so do i spread the thermal paste or not?

>>60704892
but it isn't, i literally bought a 3000hz 16 gigs for 175 AUD, which is how much that anon said in USD (130)

>>60704908
Rice in the middle, apply pressure to the cooler evenly and let that do the spreading.

Don't listen to the knuckldraggers that recommend using a credit card or "JUST USE A PLASTIC BAG ON YOUR FINGER xDDDD".
They're all fucking idiots.

>>60704892
>>60704854
I payed $450AUD for a 1060 6gb. I'm not proud of it either.
Then again our minimum wage is something like $22 an hour.

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>>60704940
>3000hz 16 gigs

>>60704990
when did you buy that? i got one last week for $350

>>60704996
Like two and a half months ago. I'm south vic. Got it from a store, not online.
No AMD dealers here ;_;

>>60704995
>being this retarded to understand things unless it's spoonfed to him

:thinkingface:

Ant good deals on a ssd's right now? Prefer read over write speed

>>60704990
>payed

>>60705060
phonetic language.

>>60705069
Are you ESL?

One of my case fans is really load when the dust filter is on it for some reason.
It gets much quieter when the dust filter is off and it gets loud if i wave my hand in front of it. Is this typical?
I can't control the fan speed in my bios for some reason too, should i get a new fan or a fan controller?

>>60705114
No, just educated. Whilliam Shakespeare spelt his own name several ways.
Spelling and grammer are modern day conventions designed to limit ones own understanding and comprehension.
By makeing these rules, and restricting to them hampens learning the ablity to decypher information. It has aldo given arize to the phenomenon of 'Grammer Nazis'.
That will hunt down violaters, and claim that due to an 'error' in formating renders all subsenquent information as incorrect. An institution synonymous with discrediting people for the whole of their work sue to an unrelated error, or later disproven theroy in past.
It's an deliberate act to stifle the advancement of knowledge and learning. Not a testiment of it.

>>60705203
first time seeing that pasta

>>60705203
>sue to an unrelated error
*Due
If you're going to miss-spell shit, at least get it phonetically right.

>>60705244
Look at your keyboard.
>By makeing these rules, and restricting to them hampens learning the ablity to decypher information.

>>60705203
Shakespeare was a fucking retard who made up words.

Do modern MBs still have regular non-express PCI slots? I have a sound card and a [spoiler]wireless card[/spoiler] currently but would like to upgrade my CPU and thus need a new motherboard.

>>60705258
I never disregarded what you said. Just get it phonetically right. I could've also put dew, or doo and gotten the same point across, but sue sounds completely different.

The reason the English language has rules, imo, is mainly due to how many words sound the some but have different meanings depending on how they're spelled, like some and sum. Or words spelled the same, but pronounced differently with different meanings. Like minute, and mine-oot.

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>>60700216
Just ordered pic related, upgrading from an i7 920.

>>60705345
How much are you paying for that Xeon? Skylake-X is around the corner.

>>60705299
Yeah there are a few, you can find them by adjusting search settings in pcpartpicker
Here's a couple though for reference
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxkwrH/asrock-z270-pro4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270-pro4
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y4kwrH/msi-b350-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk

>>60705299
New motherboards on-board audio will sound better than original PCI era sound cards. Some motherboards have built in wifi, and also new wifi adapters are cheap.
Also; original PCI is not compatible with PCIE, and new motherboards (haswell and up and Ryzen) will only have PCIE generation 3.

>>60705372
probably too much, but I felt like pissing away money.

>>60705320
Firstly, it was a basic typo evident in a prior section, that gives a pretty big clue that I'm predisposed to hitting "D" instead of "S".
>how many words sound the some but have different meanings depending on how they're spelled, like some and sum.
Often easy to figure out such a thing given the context in which it is given.
>Or words spelled the same, but pronounced differently with different meanings.
I've only had trouble with that one time to my knowledge. And that was with the word "Ass".
Context overrides poor spelling damn near every time.

I will hand chemical names and other scientific words as being impotent to accurately give.
Especially in the form of a recipe. As before context of a paper can give accurate clues to what the chemical name actually was. But not something worth risking conveying incorrectly.

>>60705398
If you have that much money why aren't you buying some huge Skylake-X processor then?

Xeons are outdated and are still on DDR3...

>>60705422
For fun, anon.

>>60705388
>>60705376
I stand correct about not being able to get old pcie slots. The rest I am still pretty sure on though.

>>60705446
He already has the cards, he might as well get a mobo that's compatible with them and judge for himself.

building tomorrow and i'm scared as shit, tell me its going to be okay guys

>>60705508
It'll be okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2dJvqU2_x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCBYvBfY9u4
Build as you watch these, take your time.

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>>60705431
will you give me some components?

>>60705508
It will be ok. Just keep all your boxes and papers. Don't damage any packaging if it can be helped. As long as you don't have any DOA parts you will be fine. DOA parts do happen though. I've had 2 dead power supplies and at least one fucky motherboard that I had to RMA.

Apparently this needs faster RAM. Can anyone help me out?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HQdxKZ

>>60705714
Use the ebay sale first of all.
You can get that CPU for $288 delivered and you can probably get a better motherboard for around the same price as that one.

>>60705714
Well you'll want faster RAM if you're getting a high refresh rate screen indeed, but what do you need help for exactly?
Just check the motherboard QVL and get a faster kit from there

>>60705788
Oh wait i thought that was the 1600, you can get the 1600X for $320.

What PC would you recommend for someone who just wants to run games like Battlefront and tis PS2 versions?

>>60700216
Anyone got good reccomendations for cheap used or new cpus, I was looking at the first generation i5's and i7's but motherboards are scarce and expensive for those.
I'm trying to build the best performance per dollar pc I can, and I'm trying to keep the price around 200-300 usd.
For an idea of what I'm building I'm looking at used 6970's and 7970's, since they're usually like 40 bucks, I'll get a scrap case from the junkyard or make one outta scrap metal, two 8gb sticks of ram, and a cheap 128gb ssd. It's for gaming, so the cpu needs minimum 4 cores, unfortunately intel's shit when it comes to core count, and amd doesn't have any cheap ryzens.

>>60706015
There's a big difference between a 6970 and a 7970.
And there's no way you're going to be able to get a quad core and a computer that can run a GPU like that for around $300 or lower without really lucking out locally or on ebay.
Best you can do with that budget is a used i3 or i5 prebuilt and a gt1030 since the power delivery on those things is usually fairly limited.
And you're probably not going to be able to fit an SSD into that budget let alone 16GB of ram, i mean seriously dude, 16GB of RAM is over $100 on it's own right now.

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>>60700216
Please excuse my horrible drawing.

I have to return a faulty m.2 ssd, but it's installed under the cpu heatsink. There's enough room to lift it out, but I can't unscrew it. I was looking at 90 degree phillips head ratchets. Should I use this? If so, what size? If not, what should I use?

>>60706083
Shit, ram was way cheaper last time I built a pc.

>>60706137
That's probably true.
RAM prices have basically doubled over the last 8 months

>>60706124
Just cut off the head of a cheap phillips head screwdriver and use it with pliers.

>>60706124
Just take off the heat sink.

Time to upgrade the ol' 560Ti. It's giving me artifacts and can only run stuff on low/med now. RX580 8Gb a good choice for 2560x1080p? I play lots of skyrim and RTS.

>>60706192
Sure, will you be able to buy one? No.

>>60706198
In stock at my local currently. Called em.

Worth it in the long run to go 1070 or 1080?

>>60706212
If you have a FreeSync monitor already probably not, or want sync technology, maybe not as the NVidia options are more expensive, but overall I'd say yes.

>>60706212
If it's actually cheaper than a 1070 you'd be better off scalping it.
unopened 4GB 470s can go for 1070 prices on ebay right now, you can almost get 1080 prices for a 580

>>60706228
I have the LG UM58-P. It's a 75Hz monitor.

>>60706241
>LG UM58-P
75hz freesync, meh, I'd get the most performant card, but strongly consider what >>60706239
said. Mining fags would buy a fresh 580 for sure.

>>60706239
No sync tech though I should add.

Will my corsair lpx 3000ghz 2x8gb ram run well with Ryzen 1600 and a gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 mono? Been reading around and might not run at full 3000ghz. Or is this issue likely fixed?

>>60706262
If you're reading that it has problems they probably aren't fixed yet but a bios update that might fix it is coming.
And by fix people tend to mean allow to run at full speeds, it'll probably run at 2667MHz since i think that's ryzen's standard speed for 2 DIMM configurations as long as the memory can handle it.

>>60704161
I don't think polaris will flood the used market when Vega hits.

There's so many of them being used by miners and they're VERY profitable. Over 15x more return than the energy cost at $220 per Ethereum.

They would simply make new rigs with Vega to add to their existing Polaris rigs.
It would take an absurd number of Vega GPUs mining to increase the total hash rate to drive down Polaris efficiency to make them no longer worth while. Probably more than will be produced. :/

>>60706245
I didn't know people did crypto mining still. lol

Thanks dudes.

Ok niggas i need an amd gpu (not 580 or 570 because i would have to wait months for shipment) for 1080p gayming, possibly under 280 euros, can anyone reccomend one?

>>60706289
So I should be fine then? No need to return the the ram and change it?

>>60706430
Nah. Bitcoin's price exploded so of course altcoins have exploded too (wait for the next crash before giving a shit), so AMD cards are being sold out everywhere because of dumbfuck miners

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BREAKING NEWS:
PRICES OF AMD'S R7 LINE PLUMMET
>>60705855
THANK YOU AMD

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>Shut down PC before bed, nothing out of the ordinary
>Next morning won't power on
>Try different outlets/psu cords
>Nothing
>Might be the psu itself then, buy a new one
>Nothing
>Oh ok, it's the mobo then, buy a new one
>Nothing
>Tried 1 stick of RAM in various positions
>Nothing
>Tried taking out graphics card and putting in some really old one
>Nothing

I've also tried taking everything out and putting it back in, reseating the processor twice and all fucking nothing. At most the heatsink fan spins for about 3 seconds than turns off.

I'm at a fucking loss here, I have no more ideas and have already wasted enough money

>>60707349
Take the chip to a PC specialist store. Ask them to put it on their test bench. Alternatively borrow someones chip.

>>60707349
Why not take it to a specialist instead of buying almost a new computer??

>>60707349
>>Tried 1 stick of RAM in various positions
Oh. And try a different stick. Clear CMOS when you do. PSU off unplugged, and pressed the power button to discharge before doing so.

>>60707380
>>60707409


Chip? The processor? What kind of stores even do that besides micro center which isn't even close to me

>>60707427
You should have a local store that does work for business around you, managing their servers and trouble shooting. Even parts sales on the side. Unless you're rural.

>>60707427
>>60707457
Yes the processor*

are gpus push or pull?

>>60707349

try plugging your PC at the store, quite sure it's your power supply or the power in your home because the motherboard would always boot.

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Rate my new build, I'm taking advices.

It's gonna be used for gaymen @1080p.

GPU is an old one, I'm waiting™ for Vega.

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>>60707491
Push. Tho I imagine there's some from the past that are pull.
Unless you're talking about reference coolers. That's where it gets convoluted. As they use centrifugal fans.
This uses a property of physics to generate air movement. So they both suck and blow. Unlike traditional finned fans that chop through the air.

Typical rule is the path air takes.
Pull = fan draws air from the cooler *=~
Push = fan blows air into it. ~*=

>>60707563
dont buy vega, its looking terrible. decent build but get a matx mobo perhaps, and wheres the case?

>>60707590
Case is not on the partpicker website it is MS Spectrum : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YJkvr9Bk9Y

which matx mobo do you suggest me and which ram to go with it ?

So I've been planning on buying a GPU later this year, but I happen to have enough money now. How bad is the RX 500 shortage? None in stock (at non-ripoff prices anyway) but are retailers at least getting more of them at a decent pace? I'd just get a 1060 but I'm not sure I want to get locked into G-sync.

thinking of picking this up but the reviews are a bit worrying

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487332

>>60707583

>so they both suck and blow

>ryzen 5 1600X
>MSI B350M
>be quiet pure rock
>RX 580 Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB
>SSD WD black 256GB M.2
>HDD WD blue 1TB
>case be quiet pure base 600
>PSU be quiet Straight Power 10 400W


Is there new GPU coming soon that will cost ~200 - 350€ ?
What about the mobo ? Is there a way to go with ryzen ?

>>60707629
>>60707651

1070

>>60707614

prime b350m
trident z 3200 C16

>retards actually dock stars off reviews because they couldn't get integrated graphics to work on their ryzen boards

Holy shit

>>60707752
>ryzen 5 1600X
Get non-X unless you don't want to OC, also comes with cooler.
>MSI B350M
ASRock mATX is better.
>be quiet pure rock
Not needed if 1600, otherwise good, but there are better options.
>RX 580 Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB
Good but eats a lot of power, extremely inefficient.
>SSD WD black 256GB M.2
Go Samsung VNAND M.2 or go home.
>HDD WD blue 1TB
Toshiba P300 is better.
>case be quiet pure base 600
Good choice, make sure you add a second front fan
>PSU be quiet Straight Power 10 400W
Get Seasonic G550 instead.
>Is there new GPU coming soon that will cost ~200 - 350€ ?
Volta should come some time. Imho wait. RX500 series is trash. Inefficient, expensive in EU, bad OC headroom. Wouldn't buy.
>What about the mobo ? Is there a way to go with ryzen ?
If you ask me, get an ATX mobo, they don't cost much more but have better features.

>>60707922
>it's only 4 stars because it's a TN panel and I prefer IPS
THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE FUCKING BOUGHT AN IPS PANEL

>>60707970
>Get non-X unless you don't want to OC, also comes with cooler.
You can OC the X models.

>>60707985
When OC'd non-X and X models are roughly equal. The non-X variants are only good for people who don't want to OC.

Can anybody find charts or stats for ssd speed below 500gb, I'm looking at cheap ssd's to put windows on and I need to know if smaller ones will be any faster than a 1tb hdd.

>>60708029

850 pro 256

ssd always faster

>>60704990
>Lets pretend 1$US is same as 1$ AUS xD
They're not the same, and to claim that your stuff costs more just because of the $ is retarded.

You might be paying more, but it's not because your $ is at lower value.

>>60707996
There's no 1800 non-X, is the 1800X overclocked better than the 1700 overclocked?

>>60707752
>>60707970

The RX580 is great, but right now because of data miners buying up all the stock it drove prices UP when its main advantage over a 1060 was much lower cost for more VRAM.

>>60708450
>Housing prices don't jump with minimum wage increases either.
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||>
||3
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//you see a post and wonder who is behind it.

What's with the overpriced ram?

>>60707996
>The non-X variants are only good for people who don't want to OC.
Not necessarily. Some guy in reddit collected some data and graphs and the result is that 1800X on average OCs around 175MHz higher than 1700 and 1700X ~120MHz higher than 1700. Same goes for 1600X and 1600. I myself got around 175MHz more on same voltage with 1600X than 1600. This is at least with earlier batches of processors, so the situation could be better.

>>60700216
what are the good cheap ssds nowadays? i have this old samsung enterprise drive that is a piece of shit.

>>60708620
Some ram with same frequency but lower CL and higher price are most likely Samsung B-die. B-die is clocks much better than what Hynix and Micron has so it's much more expensive. Also release of Ryzen has driven prices up especially for B-die since it works the best with current Ryzen BIOSes

>>60708471
At sames clockspeeds, no, but the 1800X seems to be the only really binned CPU which means higher clocks and therefore more power.

>>60708540
I don't think the RX580 is great, it's ok but that's it. Too expensive for what it offers, regardless of miners.
It also uses almost as much power as a 1080 while delivering only performance roughly equal to 1060, that's just absurd.
I'd skip the 500 series and wait for Vega/Volta or 600 series.

>>60708798
Then I'll stick with the 1800X, thanks for the info.

Which is the best RAM?

DDR4-3000MHz (PC4-24000), 16GB (8GBx2), CL14-14-14-34, 1.35 Volt, Unbuffered, Dual Channel Kit

DDR4-3200MHz (PC4-25600), 16GB (8GBx2), CL14-14-14-34, 1.35 Volt, Unbuffered, Dual Channel Kit

DDR4-3200MHz (PC4-25600), 16GB (8GBx2), CL16-18-18-38, 1.35 Volt, Dual Channel Kit

>>60708861
Just look at the latencies and rated speed. The middle one is the BEST, but it might be tad bit expensive.

>>60708883
how much better is 2 over 1? and is 3 the worst out of the bunch despite its 3200mhz?

Is there a better cooler out there than the 212 EVO @ $25 these days? This is for secondary PC, so there's no need to get one of the higher end heatsinks.

I'm going to get rid of an old AIO that has started having pump noise. It was a stupid impulse purchase anyway. I don't want something that could spring a leak anywhere near my PCB.

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At least gigabytes am4 mITX isn't quite as big of a visual disaster as ASRocks... But I really don't understand why they'd pain their ram slots red.

Do both of them just want to give Biostar a win, or what?

>>60708650
The thing is those 150MHz are not worth the $100+ price difference between the 1800X and the 1700

>>60708976
What are you planning to plug these into? A Ryzen system or an Intel system?

Both benefit from speed, but Ryzen benefits less from tight timings.

>>60708650
Interesting, unfortunately the price difference between 1600X and 1600 in my country is over 40€.
If it only was like 10€ I'd consider getting 1600X over 1600.

>>60709034
ryzen 5 1600

>>60709026
What's wrong with the little bit of red I think it is a good accent for the black board

>>60709170
Because white is becoming the standard, not the edgy black+red, this is also their only mITX board.
An all black board would be much better, for everyone, no matter the color scheme you want on the board. Your ram sticks will put the color in the ram area, your graphics card will put the color in the graphics card area, and your heatsink+fan will put the color in the middle of the board.

Red slots + white sticks will look terrible.
I'll have to try to mask as much as possible of the ugly red slots with white electric tape to circumvent their absolutely terrible color design.

heres the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJsVQV
It's for gaming and I play alot of league and want to get more into steam gaming. total budget is around 900$ but that includes os/peripherals.

Was hoping to see if I could get more for my money or spend less for similar quality of the build.

>>60709026
>>60709170
You should only see those tabs when components are in. So it's inline with the accents they're going for. Then from angles for the RAM slots.
It does look hideous as an empty board. But should dramatically improve aesthetics when filled as it limits the red back down to match the level of red and black on the VRM heatsink.

>>60709227
The VRM heatsinks appear to have stickers on them, you can just rip them off, I doubt it'd affect your warranty...

>>60709221
Don't get the founder edition. You really shouldn't get a 1060 either, but if you can't wait for the 590s then shoot for a 1070.

founders editions are always garbage

>>60709206
So don't get white sticks???? Unless you already bought them. I get all black parts for my pcs when I can so I like to have accent pieces on my board

>>60708678
>Nov 2016
>3ghz cl 15, $100 leafbux
>present day
>3.2ghz cl 14 $200+ leafbux

What a fucking world we live in

>>60709262
1070 would roast my budget. Logical increments lists a AMD Radeon RX 580 in the same tier but would that be any better?

>>60709290
Yes, the 580 is a better choice than the 1060, more so on a budget. The only con is that you can't buy one right now.

>>60709263
Already bought them, and I have a white case. Might look ok, but I rather not have that red in there.

Is now a bad time to purchase a new monitor/graphics card?
Any exciting news on the horizon? I know about freesync 2 and vega, but are they expected to give consumers better price/performance to what is available today?
I was looking at this monitor for example:
ViewSonic XG2401 24 inch Full HD 144Hz 1ms GTG Gaming Monitor with AMD FreeSync (1920 x 1080, DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort)
Buy now or wait?

>>60709313
I have that exact monitor. Paired with a 290x. Its great especially because of freesync. Pairing it with a 580 would be even better. G-sync costs too much.

>>60709313
Every year should have better price/performance, since graphics card will become better, but mostly stay in the same price range.

Old parts don't drop in price, ever, a 5 year old GPU will cost the same new as it did 10 years ago.

>>60709311
Ah alright. Sucks that you already bought them but red white and black could look good. Never know until you try

Hey /g/

PURPOSE: I'm a security researcher and sometimes I have to use tons of applications at the same time, virtual machines, high demand scripts... And my current setup is kinda blocking the performance and crashes...
BUDGET: 2.5k€
State: Portugal
GAMES/SOFTWARE: AoE II (\m/)
GRAPHICS: I not really interested in high grafics (And I don't use GPU for cracking), I just need the ability to connect 2 monitors at least...
Clarify goal: improved specs

Where are the best cases? How to know what is the best cpu for virtualization?
(I still need to read with detail the installgentoo link).

Thanks guys.

>>60709438
I'll give it a shot, worst case I'll just mask it with tape.

The ASRock one has red heatsink, that can't be covered... So that board ain't gonna happen.

>>60709356
do you feel held back by the 1920 - 1080 reoslution and colours? do you have a secondary IPS monitor for movies and such?

>>60707563
That power supply is really ass, get the G2 650w don't skimp on quality for the psu

>>60709020
The CRYORIG H7 outperforms the 212 EVO and is easier to install.

>>60709583
I also have a 27" 1080p60 IPS. Colours aren't really a problem. I play mostly overwatch and the black levels are better on the 144. But yeah I do watch media mostly on the bigger monitor. I tried gaming on it but 60hz is too low now. The way I prioritize needs for gaming are high refresh > response time > resolution > colours. I've been thinking about getting a monitor for non competitive games with more resolution and better colours from IPS. However I still need a higher refresh rate. That combination is $900 in Canada. Totally not worth it yet.

Your best bet is to use a TV for media honestly.

>>60709510
I did not convert your money, so this is a guess.

R7 1700-1800X (8 cores)
Or thread ripper a additional die of ryzen keeping near the same clock speed but twice the amount of cores. But you'd have to wait.
I am not familiar with Xeons.

GTX 1030 Should be enough should you decide to use GPU accelerated software, but won't break the bank. Often basic display cards cost more.
As much RAM as you can comfortably afford. Mhz and cas latency won't matter too much to you. So aim in the middle.

Full ATX board. So should you need to use X, Y, Z. You'll have slots open.

240gb SSD to boot and launch programs from.
HDD storage to your suit.

Make a partpicker list. And state if you want the price to come down, or if there's $X in the budget to improve performance.
Remind the user case when posting it.

>>60709686
Looks good to me. Thanks mate.

10500 in 3d mark 11 - is it okay for modern games?

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