/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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first for comfiness

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Here's my x201!

>8GBs of RAM
>SSD
>Debian Unstable
>Japanese Keyboard
>OEM 9v battery (New a year ago!!)
>Modded BIOS
>Kernel Compatible Wireless Module
>AFFS Mod

>>60684127
They're pretty deep, but yeah I've tried that. No use. :/

>>60685089
>japanese keyboard
neck yourself

>>60685089
>Winshit 95
I laffed a little.

Also, do other brands have anything similar to ThinkPads/Latitudes/EliteBooks/etc? If I remember correctly Toshiba had Tecra or something, and Sony sold some metallic VAIOs in the era of the Core2Duo Merom...

>>60685089
What's a kernel compatible wireless module?
Does that mean it works without non-free drivers?

t420 on the way with 32gb msata for the OS.
also 4gb stick so 8gb total.

How long will this laptop last me and still run well?

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Gotta say, running ChromeOS on my X301 isnt that bad. I use my T420 with Fedora 26 as my DD, so I dont care much about the loss in 'functionality' on this one.

>>60685119
thx

>>60685256
Yes.

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>>60685089
That sucks they don't come off.
I'm sorry anon

>discord server
https://discord.gg/87PvZ7V

>>60685287
I love ChromeOS, luckily my job doesn't require anything intensive.

>>60685275
Probably another 5 years. :)
>pic related

>>60685308
If that discord server was directed toward me, the link doesn't work. I mainly use IRC anyway~

>>60685308
The real question if I bought it refurb from newegg, will it come with fingerprint reader or is that luck of the draw?

>>60685412
Pretty much all X/T/W series Thinkpads come with a fingerprint reader, it's not a special feature.

>>60685412
if you can get the serial number then you can find out

>>60685412
Why would you want one?

>>60685723
I don't see it in my order # or email.
>>60685752
Just to have it.

>>60685412
most cheaper models dont have them
if you buy a higher end option then they have a pretty good chance of coming with them
They're pretty useless, and really buggy.

Is it possible to replace the "sticker" for the trackpad on a T530? If it is, how do you search for it on eBay or AliExpress?

>>60685830
never had a buggy fingerprint reader

>>60685895
I would recommend removing the sticker and leaving it that way, the bumpy sticker is retarded and the smooth surface is miles better

>>60685895
yeah it comes right off

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>>60684879
Okay /tpg/ here's the question. I'm looking for a laptop with a real i7 not an """i7""". What I mean is it must have 4 cores and 8 threads. Here's what I have my eyes on:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6420-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-2720QM-2-20GHz-4GB-No-HDD-OS-Batt-/162533389853?hash=item25d7beb61d:g:ehMAAOSw8HBZLEoy

It's a Latitude E6420 with an i7-2720QM for 120 Ameri-shekels. Doesn't come with HDD, battery or AC adapter but I would have gotten a new battery and SSD anyway.

Is there any reason I shouldn't get this for the price? Is it a housefire? Will the screen suck worse than the one on my T420s? Please help, bros

Where do I get GNU/Linux stickers for maximum autism?

>>60686545

Hackerstickers or unixstickers

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>>60686522
>Is there any reason I shouldn't get this for the price?

>>60685089
you got a link to the modded bios you used? and tell more about the affs mod

>>60686579
Okay. Fair enough. Is there any reason why a laptop such as this one in better shape wouldn't be a good buy? I'm sure there are plenty of them for under 150. I'm just concerned about the screen quality and the possibility of it throttling too much.

I like my T420 but the screen kills my eyes and I could use a couple of more cores.

>>60686606
I would look into something with an ivy bridge cpu and USB 3.0, if you wanted an upgrade.

>>60682481
Wasn't fast enough to reply before the thread was archived.
I think the x200 is a good option and I've been thinking about getting one myself. The core2duo processors are still decent for web browsing and watching youtube videos. If you get one of the later DDR3 models I think it's a good idea.
I really wish I could love something about this country, but no. Imposto é roubo, sonegação é legítima defesa.

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>>60686665
Thanks man. Last question. This:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6430-Intel-Core-i7-3720QM-2-60GHz-4GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-No-Battery-/142371810671?hash=item2126056d6f:g:Jb0AAOSwcgNZCqFn#viTabs_0

i7 3720QM Latitude with the 1600x900 screen. Price is about 180 out the door. Buy? If people think so I'm pulling the trigger.

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>>60686522
>Latitude E6420
Huh.

I accidentally stole one of these a few years ago. Someone left it at a FedEx print shop. There's a sticker on it that said "property of xyz consulting" and a phone number. I called and left a voicemail, and tried to call again the next week. Even let the FedEx guys know I had it in case they came back. No response, and it had a BIOS password so I kinda just shelved it. I actually just went to go check it, and I come back and I see you're looking to buy the same exact model - interesting coincidence.

Is a BIOS password reset possible? I've got flashing hardware if that's required, I know that's how the ThinkPads are reset.

>>60686728
seems decent but then you need a battery +50$ and charger +$15 (don't know actual prices but should be around there)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Elitebook-8470W-Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-2-3Ghz-8GB-500G-Win-7-Pro-14-/112406377207?hash=item1a2bf132f7:g:VdUAAOSwjqVZF4Y1

this seems like a pretty good deal to me, looks really clean and it seems to have the extended battery

doesn't come with a CD drive but there is something in the drive bay, probably a hard drive caddy, which are cheap but nice to have to begin with IMO

Similar T430's seem to go for about $400

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>>60686914
bios-pw.org to remove the password, takes out most of them.

Thing is that, it may have computrace in the worst case scenario and maybe you might get pinged at 'stealing' it.
E6420 mobos are cheap and plentiful, I think you can get one as low as $27, and $45 for an nVidia one. Just look at if you have an intel or discrete heatsink... the HSFs are not interchangable, Dell slightly moved the CPU on the iGPU and dGPU models.
>dude, its a Dell

>>60686728
Just took a close look at the pictures in that eBay listing. Haha. Seller claims it has a 1600x900 display but the pictures are of an e6420s not an e6420. The former only came with a 1366x768 screen. Lol. eBay.

>>60687025
I'll give that a shot.

Don't care if it gets pinged, it's not like I swiped it off someone's lap, I'll just tell them I found it and give it back. This was like 2-3 years ago, and they'd have to pay to keep computrace up on it (which, if it's a consulting company, is definitely possible I suppose via some bulk package).

Unless it's worth the $27 to resell it or give away later, I don't care enough to buy a motherboard, I have like 4 ThinkPads I use and 5 other absolute trash laptops sitting in a bin. I only just realized that the Dell one might have been one of the business meme ones with a trackpoint.

Does it have coreboot? At least the xx20 systems can plug in an IvyBridge.

>>60687088
I don't really follow Latitude/Elitebook mods and upgrades, but it looks like it doesn't support it. /;

>>60687054
Ugh that is a nightmare...
Wait, it should be an E6430s?
>mfw I thought I was buying E6220's and the seller shipped E6430s
The seller just wrapped some news papers around them too in the priority box, shit must of bounced, luckily we were located in the same state and they weren't damaged.

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This was a sus as fuck purchase, but if it's legit I can swap the batteries and touchpad with new ones for ~$120.

The MPN this dude listed would make this deal insane if it's real - i7, 8GB RAM, FHD.

I applied for PayPal Credit to buy it so it's easier to dispute if it's bullshit.

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>quad cores rape the battery!
Post worst /tpg/ memes
>x230 is better than 2570p
>8GB is better than 16GB
>gaming is for kids
>replacing cumstained keyboard is a waste of money, just clean it up with your tongue
>chink batteries are best
>coreboot
>installing linux outside of servers
Absolutely disgusting.

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>>60687778
also friendly reminder:
If you buy x220 or x230 you support holocaust and you're a faggot

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>>60687778
>bragging about getting subpar battery performance

>>60687843
Go home hertzlet.

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>thinking maybe i should buy a new laptop
>base model dell xps is $800 for the exact same specs as my ancient x200 (4GB, 128gb ssd, dual core i3)

nope, I'm gonna max out my ram instead
x200 can take up to 8GB ram, right?
Also, is there any difference between corsair vengeance ram and value ram other than the color?
Because they're the same price and I'm leaning toward the gamer ram.

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i'm considering buying a t420 off of craigslist because i need a new laptop for school in the fall.
first, is this even a good choice (only one in my area though i could drive a bit further) and second when i go to buy what kind of inspection do i have to do to make sure i'm not getting fucked? the ad says the guy got em from his work so i'm feel i should be careful but i've never bought used before.

>>60687998
>is this even a good choice

only if you're too poor for the t430.

>>60688005
no ones selling any nearby, how overpriced do the listings on ebay tend to be?

>>60687874
>comparing 14,1" and 15,6" laptops to 12,5" subnotebooks
why stop at comparing to 2570p? Compare your overheating piece of shit to dual core 7" tablets!
This will show how superior your shitpad is. Lmao

>>60687874
Not him but your image is fucking retarded.

>>60688192
t. hertzlet

>>60687926
>x200 can take up to 8GB ram, right?
Yes.
>Also, is there any difference between corsair vengeance ram and value ram other than the color?
No.

>R61i for $40
>Seller says that the one and only failure of the thing is that it doesn't turn on, and that she's unsure if it's the AC adapter or not
Should I risk it? What's the next to worst case scenario (because worst case is it doesn't legit turn on and it's a brick)?

is a maxed out w530 enough to mine cryptocurrencies?

>>60688489
b8

Does anyone have a Thinkpad Helix?

>>60688438
Wrong
Smells slightly different.

>>60688824
Yes.
It runs hot and the dead dock battery killed the dock keyboard lol

I guess my thinkpad has a giant flashlight at the top of the screen. How do I turn it on?

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>>60688989
Well, I've been looking for someone who owns one because I need to know what drivers I'm missing.
Can you please go into Device Manager and look under Human Interface Devices, then take a pic of the list like so?

>>60689020
fn+pgup
fn+space if it's a --30

>>60689048
look for the one that has the question mark next to it
taking a screenshot only showing everything that has a driver is pretty useless
and it's probably an sd card reader or intel ME
>>60687874
>overclocking a laptop that already has throttling issues
no thanks, my t430 struggles as it is

i asked for thinkpad recommendations in a previous thread and people ended up suggesting either the t420 or t430

can someone explain how i would decide between the two? thanks

>>60689803
Budget/performance needs
Don't need the extra performance? Get the t420 it's overall a nicer laptop
Want the extra performance? Get the t430. It costs more, the keyboard isn't as nice, but you get FAR faster 3d performance, and a decent amount faster cpu.

>>60689839
if im just looking for a laptop that will handle browsing with quite a lot of tabs should the t420 be alright? thanks

>>60689764
>taking a screenshot only showing everything that has a driver is pretty useless
It's to compare to a screenshot of the driver list of a fully working Helix.
Unfortunately, despite my timely response, the one person I see with a Helix in a long search just doesn't respond.

>>60686587
I just googled and modified the latest bios manually, but from what I remember I found a bunch just by googling "x201 modded bios".

The AFFS mod is is just an x200 LCD converter and cable attached to an AFFS display. The x201 and x200's parts can be swapped pretty easily, besides maybe the motherboard? Uncertain on that.

>>60689946
Easily
Just make sure you either get one with 8 gigs of ram, or save up a bit to get 8.
Just make sure to get a 1600x900 screen

>>60690008
that's great, cheers
whats the reason for the screen?

Do you guys have experience with aftermarket batteries?
Are Green Cell batteries reliable? Reviews are good, but are they comparable to original batteries?

>>60690066
1366x768 sucks on a 14" screen, especially with shitty viewing angles
the 1600x900 screen isn't any better for viewing angles, but it just makes it slightly less bad

>>60690106
sweet, thanks again

>>60689839
But t420 is upgradable to ivy bridge(i7 3840qm)...

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>>60690089
They're fine. OS actually reports it's 104%
of rated capacity (51Wh, rated 49Wh). Genuine lenovo was 57Wh iirc.
Greencell lasts pretty much as long as lenovo did.
Not sure how it will compare lifespan wise, but so far so good.

>>60690208
Through a complicated bios hack that very little people will actually do

>>60690218
Perfect, thanks.
It seems they also have "Pro" versions of their batteries for selected laptops. They're the same as the normal batteries in size, but have top of the line Samsung cells, which gives them at least 20% capacity than the originals, for $10 more or so.

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>>60690251
oh yeah, one more thing
it should be noted that I had a hard time fitting it in my T530.
Hopefully you can see the grind marks the battery on the right side. I had to cut a tiny bit of plastic to make it fit well. It wasn't particularly complicated. On the left is a genuine battery for comparison.
It could be different on your model, but if you have a hard time fitting the battery, you'll know what to do.

TFW bought a refurb one with 2 day shipping on Saturday and it just changed delivery to Friday.

Th-thanks fedex.

>>60685089
post wallpaper please

just got a brand new 44++, this shit is liberating. My 6 cell was on about 2% capacity.

My 2560p just arrived. I can see what people say when they say that the screen is garbage, but, honestly, I don't mind it too much. I've never owned an IPS monitor or laptop so it's usable to me. The only things I dislike is the lack of a third button for use with the pointing stick, and the fact that I have to hold the Fn key for Page Up/Down. It's also a little loud. Came with a valid Windows 10 Pro license which will make selling it in the future a lot easier.

>>60691304
Looks like I did okay with the battery, too! And even though it's only 250 GB, the HDD seems good. Fairly new, WD Black, 7200 RPM.

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>>60691336
Forgot a picture, as pointless as it is.

maybe, just maybe, this question belong to sqt but im asking it here anyways, i have an old thinkpad t41, just installed devuan on it, but wifi isnt working, any idea how to fix it? Thanks.

>>60691304
>>60691336
>>60691361
A-Also, one last post... Could somebody recommend an OS to use other than Windows 10?

>>60691526
install gentoo

or Windows 8.1 with start is back, it's pretty comfy. Or just go back to 7.
If you're looking for a Linux just go to distrowatch.com and try a couple of distros from the top of the list on the right. Anything goes. Other than the package manager and sometimes a custom DE they're all the same.

>>60691511
Most likely it uses a non-free firmware so it wasn't included with devuan. You need to identify what card is it and install the firmware for it.

Why do idiots bid 6 days away?

>>60691620
I'd like to use Linux! Which ones are your favourites for babbies?

>>60691634
marking their territory

sometimes i like to raise the price on things out of pure spite

>>60691634
To fuck with people.
I especially like to bid early on every link retards post here. Enough to hurt the final price, but not enough for them to back down.

Budget: 500

Location: USA

Size: 15 or under

Performance: mid-high will be using for a computer science course

Other requirements: none

I've been lurking on these threads for a while but I'm still not sure what would be best for me.

>>60691637
>for babbies
probably something Ubuntu-based. Plain Ubuntu is usually frowned upon around here, and I think its stock desktop environment would use too much of screen real estate on a 12'' laptop.

I'd go with Mint. It looks similar to windows and works well on a tiny display. It's also rice-friendly if you'd want to go there.
And since it's Ubuntu based you can use Ubuntu PPAs, and if you have a problem with it you can ask on ubuntu forums.

>>60692049
>15 or under
Hello mr. pedobear.

>>60692049
>Budget: 500
quad-core T530/W530.
The autists here will say that the keyboard sucks, but it's only because they're used to old layout. It's pretty nice to type on, especially for a chiclet.
You could also go for newer models like T540 or T550, but it's not a REAL thinkpad and they're not much faster anyways.

What's a decent eGPU for my T430 that won't get choked by the ExpressCard and i5 dual core? gtx560ti? 750? I guess newer are out of the question.

>>60692240
750ti or 950

>>60692240
>I guess newer are out of the question.
not really
it depends on what you're going to play, but I think even RX 460 or GTX 1050 wouldn't be significantly choked.

>>60692189
Thanks I'll take a look at them

>>60692284
>rx460
>egpu
good luck. AyyMD GPUs don't have nvidia optimus, which is literally the only reason why eGPUs work fine with very limited bandwidth.

>>60692240
I think the best GPU that isn't chocked is the 960 or 1050 (or they get a bit chocked, but not much).
I have a 960 myself and it works wonders.

But you can forget heavy cpu bound games. Total War games, for examçple, are so cpu heavy for calculating the movement of every single unit that between medium and ultra graphics settings, the performance is literally the same.

>>60692344
I also thought about getting quad core i7 later but I'm not sure T430 allows that upgrade.

>>60692359
It does.

>>60692364
Damn. How come people say "memepads" are dying or whatever?

>>60692380
The only thing that dies on memepads are the batteries with age and nvidia GPUs.

>>60689048
went to bed

download HWinfo64
you could probably pinpoint the missing driver easier

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>>60689048
forgot photo...

>>60692441
Are you suicidal james?
I'm very interested why traps (like you) got such a high suicidal rate. Can you explain this?

>>60692505
you are confusing trannies with fags

>>60692529
which one is james?

Found a tp with these specs (dont want to post link cause i want to buy it) is 475 A good price

Lenovo ThinkPad T530 laptop
Intel Core i7 3.6Ghz
16GB RAM
NVIDIA NVS 5400M / Intel HD Graphics 4000
backlit keys

>>60692624
475 americans?

is that a dual-core or quad-core i7?

pretty sure you can find W530's with the same specs for that price and they usually hold a more 'premium' price

>>60692624
The list of specs is lacking.
Screen?
Battery?
What i7 is it?
Do you touch yourself at night?

>tfw your tp finally comes but the logo is partly worn out and so is space key

this will keep triggerring me every time I see it and remind myself how much and how uncarefully someone used it, I fucking know it

>>60692764
>>60692778
>screen
15 in 1600x900
>battery
Li-ion 9 -cell removable
>Cpu
3rd Generation Intel Core i7 - 3520M
>Do you touch yourself at night
Yes

>>60693028
Not worth it.

>>60693028
not a quad-core, definitely not worth it

is stock screen in t430 good enough to code, lurk and watch anime?

>>60693078
>>60693044
Ok I'll keep looking thanks

>>60693080
well it's functional, yes

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>>60690208
>>60690231
I'm one of the few that have done it.

First off, you have to take apart your ENTIRE laptop down to the motherboard. I've done this over a dozen times for various T430 systems. No big deal, just a little annoying. You need a Pi with linux and flashrom ready to go, along with jumper cables and an SOIC8 clip (like the Pomona). This is the easy part.

You have to extract both of the EEPROM chips, concatenate them, extract the Gb, ME, and Descriptor binaries. You have to also extract the vBIOS (good luck getting help with this), and then make sure you have PS/2 enabled in compile settings and make sure you set your compile settings EXACTLY or you will have no idea why your shit fails to boot.

Coreboot itself is annoying to compile, but doable. If you're on Linux, something like SeaBIOS is fine and the bullshit ends here once you set up power management (which you DON'T need to do on Vendor BIOS - but I assume most of you will anyway).

Ever need to boot Windows? lol @ your life.

If you're on Windows 10, you are using UEFI - which means you can go fuck yourself. You have to reinstall your entire OS in Legacy mode to get it to boot through SeaBIOS.

Alternatively, you can set up a second toolchain from scratch that has no documentation and compile the tianocore payload (I had someone provide me with an ivybridge compile). Then, when you actually build the damn thing and chain tianocore to coreboot, you realize there's no power management built in, and it takes over a fucking minute to boot. Windows sucks at this if it isn't spoon fed by the BIOS. Legacy installs need to do this too.

Coreboot+SeaBIOS is great if you're a full time Linuxfag. If you EVER think you need to boot into anything but Linux, don't even dream of trying coreboot.

So yes, the T420 supports IvyBridge. I haven't seen a single faggot here prove they have a fully working T420 with CoreBoot and IvyBridge, because the process of getting a proper install is a full weekend project.

>>60692539
both

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bought thinkpad, plugged it in, battery light was blinking orange which means <5% battery life I think

now it's mostly solid orange but blinks every once and awhile

does that mean it's charging/improving?

>>60693482
nevermind now it's green, time to boot an ubuntu liveusb to see what happens

are there any linux liveusb tools to test the hardware/battery?

>>60693080
Yeah dude it's fine. I have the 1600x900 version and I don't get all the hate. It's an average laptop screen from five years ago.

I need help.


I have an old thinkpad t41, i managed to install devuan without problems, now im trying to set up my wifi drivers because them are non-free.
I managed to figure out that i need the ipw2100 but i dont know what to do next. any help? thanks..

t430 should be coming in today.

What are my first steps?

>>60694711
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ipw2x00_0.43_all.deb
installing this should make it work

>>60694740
Ok, got it, i downloaded it, but, how do i install it? haha Thanks.

>>60694791
su
enter admin password
then cd to where you downloaded the deb, probably Downloads, so

cd Downloads

and then

dpkg -i firmware-ipw2x00_0.43_all.deb

>>60694821
Thanks.

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Hi lads

My dumb ass roommate hosed down the boat we live on after placing my thinkpad x1 carbon underneath a leaky window. The thing is very well fucked now, and I loved it. Not only was it my first lenovo computer, but I fell in love with the thinkpad keyboard and the fact that it could run dark souls 2 at around 40-50 fps even though I only bought it for school.

While I want another thinkpad, I would really like to get ahold of something a little more powerful with a dedicated GPU. Would anyone recommend the Y50 or Flex 3? The specs look good on paper. My only concern is the keyboard performance. I just can't go back to shitty keyboards.

>>60694821
ok, i installed it, rebooted and all but wifi doesnt work, any idea?

>>60694979
Does ethernet work? Maybe you don't have network manager installed.

>>60695011
Ethernet works perfectly, just wifi isnt working.
I would install another distro like Ubuntu Mate, but my cpu doesnt have PAE haha.

>>60694880
>Would anyone recommend the Y50 or Flex 3?

no

T470p

>>60695044
Man, I so would, but I can't spend more than $600 so I'm only looking at used machines.

>>60687507
>X240
enjoy your garbage

>>60695160
I already have multiple other ThinkPad machines, and my modded T430 is my main driver.

Enjoy your overinflated ego.

>>60695178
Lel, I bought an i7 FHD X240 for that price a year and a half ago. No one wants them because they're complete trash. The keyboard is like typing on a wet sponge, there is no proper mouse interface, the thin meme leaves you dissasembling half the laptop for access to components that could be reached effortlessly in previous gens.

>>60695284
The thin meme is why I bought it. I'm not expecting it to replace my T H I C C quad core T430.

It's supplementary.

>>60693137
Would a quad core t530 with 8gb ram and a 128gb ssd for 360 be a good
price

>>60695292
just warning you
the X240 was such a mistake that even Gookovo unfucked some of its worst characteristics with the X250

using that touchpad abortion is suffering
the only good thing on that laptop is the flexview panel

>>60695392
I'm swapping the touchpad because I'm not a retard.

>>60695418
>wasting additional time and effort on old hardware
good luck dissasembling that steaming pile of shit. On a real Thinkpad keyboard/touchpad swap takes five minutes.

>>60695472
I have a fully disassembled T540p sitting in my office that I'm turning into a W541 and overclocking.

I'm fine with disassembly.

wich distro can i install on an old thinkpad t41? cant be debian because the wifi drivers doesnt work, also needs to be x32(no arch, no sabayon) bits and with non pae support (buntus and deribates are discarded cuz this).

>>60695615
>because the wifi drivers doesnt work
then make them work?

>>60695615
windows xp

>>60695664
check >>60694821
i did those steps but still not working.
>>60695705
malware is not an option but thanks for your answer.

>>60695741
sorry to hear about your 'tism

>>60685287
best way to to install ChromeOS? I have an old x120e that should run nice with it.

>>60695793
np son.

T460s or T470?

I got a T420s with 8GB of RAM, a battery with minimal wear and a 128GB SSD for $100. Don't think I could've done better, /tpg/.

>>60695981
overpriced Gookovo trash or more overpriced Gookovo trash?

>>60696239
don't lynch me, but I prefer the new keyboard

>>60695044
if it's not too much to ask, what exactly is so shit about flex and y50? I trust you people more than amazon and newegg reviewers.

Just bought a t420, ordered it with a dual channel 4gb.

What should i expect guys?

>>60685287
How exactly does ChromeOS work on a regular notebook? Can you use it offline with certain applications since you actually have storage?

>>60696418
Expect a package delivery guy.

Expect him!

>>60696349
You don't need to trust reviewers, but at least trust people who bought the computer. Wich isn't the norm around here for those notebooks.

Am I wasting my time looking at thinkpads with nvidia gpus if I run ONLY gnu/linux?
Am I limited to integrated intelshit?

>>60696926
No, some distros actually have good support for NVIDIA's dGPUs.
For driver installation you have to stop the DE process beforehand, though, but it's not as hard as it sounds.

Just wanted to share something.

I've had problems with the trackpoint of my t460s since like forever. Older models were fine and I loved it. Basically the trackpoint was unusable with very bad scrolling, lot of drifting and just had to push the trackpoint very hard into one direction because it was slow as hell.

I've put a little bit of paper into the cap so it stands like 1-2mm higher and now I love it.

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>>60696418
I'm really enjoying mine, been configuring my system from a fresh Arch install. Here are the specs of my T420, barely hits 190mb idle but I'm doing some web dev just now along with 4 tabs open in chrome and mutt in another workspace. It's a very good laptop for what I need it for, which is development (nothing graphic intense) and writing LaTeX documents. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine

>>60692461
Thanks!
As you can see, you have an "HID-compliant pen" driver that I do not have.

Now, I don't know whether all drivers with the name "HID-compliant pen" are the same.
In case they aren't, could you find the driver file used by the HID-compliant pen, and upload it somewhere?

>>60697754
Also I'm using an SSD, which I'd highly recommend doing too

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What kind of OS to install on x60s which has a dead battery. Meaning it can only be used when plugged in a wall. Any lightweight OS will do, doesn't matter if there's lots of fiddling and configuring.

>>60696926
optimus works well on a number of distros like >>60697060 said, but why would you need anytyng more than an iGPU on linux?
There's no point unless you're doing some CUDA accelerated work.

>>60696298
probably this. Don't know about newer series, but the xx30 keybaord is actually nice to type on. I still prefer the xx20 because I'm used to the layout, but xx30 is not as bad as /tpg/ memes it to be.

>>60697956
>dead battery
slap a debian with no x11 on it and use it as a file server

or get a battery for it, install arch or gentoo, rice it with your favorite anime character and use it as a comfy bedtime shitposting machine

I have a problem, i installed Devuan in my Thinkpad T41 and got no wifi.
i managed to find download and install the ipw2100 driver. but the wifi doest work yet.
What can i do to fix it? Thanks for any reply.

>>60698441
see
>>60689348

So I want 15"+ thinkpad with a decent screen. Which?

>>60698698
define "decent"
T520/T530/W520/T530 with have a decent AUO 1080p panel, if you looking for an IPS you need to look for newer models

>>60698698
elitebook 8770w dreamcolor

>>60688466
Anyone? It's a local seller so no eBay link for you.
And if I remember correctly there was a frankenpad involving the R61, which one was it?

>>60699062
old and useless, don't bother

Where can't I get replacement trackpoints for x220

>>60699133
ebay

>>60698438
sounds good, how light are modern KDE versions?

my t420 records a pulsing, ringing sound with the microphone when the webcam is also running.

when i record with just the microphone the ringing isn't present. anyone else get this? know how to fix it?

i'm on windows 7. i havent tested it on my linux partition. installed all the drivers & everything.

>>60699174
Not light enough to run well on GMA950. I used MATE and xfce on a similar specced laptop, ran fine.

I got a free Thinkpad R40 the other day -- dead CMOS battery and the Li-ion battery is probably worn out too. Would it be worth fixing and/or upgrading this old machine? I'd probably use it very lightly, and most definitely run Linux on it.

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>>60699189
Installing gentoo on my t420 but on boot it panics and I can't read the error just before it.

How do I read the boot sequence messages or does anyone know what this error is?

>>60699320
>>60699189
im assuming you didnt mean to quote me? thanks for the (you) though

I bought an X200 while ago an the battery usually lasts around 2 hours, but I need much more. Should I buy a non-lenovo 7800mAh battery from ebay or will it just explode?

>>60699336
Nah using mobile like a poorfag

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don't forget to check if you're eligible for free battery!

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/hf004122

Well I managed to get the supervisor password off the bios of the x220t I bought. Wasn't really that hard and the board seems fine so I'm not really sure why it is so unrecommended to buy ones with supervisor passwords.

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>>60699764
>tfw no W530

>>60691526
8.1 embeded
And I know you said other than windows 10 but windows 10 ltsb is worth giving a look too

I'm starting University soon, I'm gonna need a laptop. I want something light and thin with a long battery life, but I still want some decent performance to do light gaming. Would a Thinkpad be the best route? Or any other recommendations? No real budget here but under $1000 would be nice

>>60699969
>thin and light
>long battery life
>good performance

yeah don't we all

pick 2

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tfw you do not have a think pad
why live

>>60700042
they are diamond dozen just buy one

>>60700042
get one, they're cheap af for the quality
I was on the fence about getting one until I pulled the trigger on a T430, I do not regret it one bit.
/comfy/

Got my t420 today. Love the keyboard, the screen isn't that bad for a lower resolution display.

Upgraded it to 6gb since it has 2x 2gb sticks.

Gonna toss a cheap SSD in there.

Keep optical drive or put msata ssd on the bottom?

What option is cheaper.

Can I get active protection system running on my T530 running Linux? I know it was possible with tp-smapi on older thinkpads, but xx30 are not compatible with it.

>>60700151
>Keep optical drive

for what purpose

is there a website where i can see what cpu are compatible with the laptop i have for upgrading or am i that stupid that i cant find one?

>>60700151
Does the T420 support SATA3? If so then get rid of the optical drive (see >>60700172) and put the SSD as a main drive and HDD in ultrabay.
mSATA has only SATA2 speeds, so it would be kind of wasteful to put a fast SSD there.

>>60700242
there's no difference between a SATA2 and SATA3 SSD unless you are transferring files between SSD's

>>60700172
In case it's ever needed randomly? I don't need a lot of storage on my computer.
>>60700242
>>60700265
Just getting like 32-64 gb for Windurs and Linux Dualboot.

T430 with an i5 or i7? I worry that an i7 could hurt the battery life.

>>60700187
anyone?

>>60700361
If you downclock the i7 there is no hit to battery life.

>>60691637
>>60692056
Plain old Ubuntu but swap out the default desktop environment for something better

>>60700447
>for babbies
>swapping DEs
>on the dependency mess that Ubuntu is

>>60700469
Just google "how to install... on Ubuntu"

>>60700354
64 or 128
I have a 32 gb one and even though I ran mostly everything off my spinner I still got a low disc error pretty fast

>>60700526
But why make the guy mess with installing DEs when he can just get a flavor he likes that works out of the box? I recommended Mint because it would be the easiest to switch to from Windows. When anon gets deeper into linux he'll probably start distrohopping and experimenting with DEs by himself, no need to go balls deep just now.

>>60700626
Fair enough

>>60700187
NotebookCheck, ask the Lenovo official forums, the ThinkPads forums, or CPU-Upgrade, but sometimes that site won't list particular issues; just possible upgrades to a particular socket or CPU line.

Uuuuuuugh fucking faggots bidding to market price with 6 days left

I just placed a bid for 999 eat shit

>>60700752
>bidding at all before 60s left
You asked for this.

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>>60701111

>not waiting until the last 10 seconds to place your bid and your highest possible auto-bid

it's like people WANT the price to get jacked up instead of the item simply going to the person who is willing to pay the most.

>>60700006
well he could have all 3 but its not comming in under 1k

Is 310 USD a good price for this laptop

Lenovo W530 type 2447-CN4

i7 2.7gHz Quad Core

16GB ram

640GB Disc

15.6” Screen 1600x900 resolution

NVIDIA K1000M Graphics with 2GB video ram

WebCam

>>60701913
There is no thin and light quad core with higher than a 60Wh battery... At any price...

>>60702007
It's mediocre, but not terrible.

>>60702027
I dont know where you put the cutoff for thin and light at but the t470p is 24mm, has a 72Wh battery and can be had with a quad core.

Does anybody have a T420 with Optimus? How have you gotten the display port to work in linux?

>>60702060
>>60702027
Also the razer blade
7700hq
70Wh
17mm thickness

>>60702060
>>60702092
Okay, fair.

72Wh may not be enough though (for me).

ULVs get nice battery life and they require about that much to run around 10-12 hours. Quad cores take almost triple the juice (15W vs 35W). I wouldn't be happy with 72Wh battery. The t h i c c quad cores have ~94Wh batteries (legal limit for planes). That's what I would expect from a high end "thin" laptop. I know it doesn't happen because of space issue (they'd need to be 17"+ to fit in a larger/flatter battery), but still.

How do I get TPMiddle to work?

I have it running... it just doesn't seem to DO anything.

It's supposed to enable middle-click opening new tabs right? it doesn't do that.

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I've only had my T460 a few weeks and the rubber coating has rubbed off on the corners of the lid already. Is this normal?

Also, will putting stickers on the lid mess up the coating too?

>>60703258
Yeah it's pretty normal.

>>60703258
>using gookshit neo thinkpads
nice meme

>>60692505
Nah, I get down sometimes but then get back up.

>>60693408
Correct.

>>60692928
How did the logo fuck up?
>yfw they press space bar only due to slideshows and pausing videos

>>60693345
Holy shit

>>60694739
Using a USB 3.0 stick with a distro of your choice.

retard here, which model thinkpads support Libreboot AND support 8gb of RAM? I was thinking x200 but I may be wrong. any help would be appreciated

>>60698795
This anon gets it

>>60700752
I like to bid maybe within 2 days, or day of, because something else might be better out there in that time.

>>60703258
>will stickers mess up the coating
It won't look even, but just replace the lid because they are cheap as fuck by the third year.

>>60703696
how do i get the lid off?

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What's the newest Chinkpad I can get with a traditional (as in, non chiclet/island) keyboard? Preferably one with a discrete GPU, but an integrated one will work if it's my only option.

I currently have a T400 (P8400 2.26GHz, 8GB RAM, HD3470, SSD) and I am more than happy with its performance, but I am afraid that a day will come when a C2D no longer cuts it.

>>60703870
W/T520, or W/T530 with keyboard mod.
C2D is still fine for coming to /g/ and shitposting, maybe some light games such as AoEII or maybe even III... It'll last for those tasks for at least three more years before all companies add even more bloat disguised as "features" to their products that will render them unusable on older hardware.
Sorry for the blog.

>>60703904

Makes sense.

>or W/T530 with keyboard mod

Can you give me a quick rundown on the keyboard mod? Is it just replacing the keyboard itself or is it more involved?

Also I have no issues with the current Core 2 Duo, I just figure that until the industry unfucks itself and starts putting non-shit keyboards in notebooks again (which will probably never happen because everyone is up their own ass about buying thinner machines) it would be nice to have a little extra futureproofing in my machine.

Who here /waiting/?
>x220's last known location is Tampa Florida.
>Battery is in Missouri
>SSD doesn't even have a tracking number yet, had to reorder because Crucial cancelled my order

>>60703808
Gold bond removes it quickly.
Or maybe a screwdriver and looking at the service manual.
I don't know, I just ate gold bond.

>>60703931
I think it is just updating the bios to a modded bios.

>T550
>Felt one side of the power button sink in, doesn't have the same click anymore
Any ideas if it's an easy fix and how to do it ? Hasn't made problems yet, but I guess all in due time, I'm afraid the laptop will just start turning on/off randomly

>>60704028
Wedge that area open and reset the button

>>60703931
It's a bit more complicated.
First, you isolate some cables and reroute the connections.
Second, you mod the BIOS to restore full functionality, unless you like to have a spaghetti keyboard.

I mean, it's not as complicated as making Ivy Bridge work on xx20's, but it's a bit of a process.

Personally I like the feel of the T530 keyboard, but I might order another one sometime because the keys are really worn off. Not that big of a deal, but it kind of bothers me sometimes.

Also, if you do get a T/W530, there's the option of a Full HD (1920x1080, or 1080p) screen.

>>60704142
>First, you isolate some cables and reroute the connections.

What the fuck are you talking about? You take off the palmrest, literally swap the keyboards, then run software to flash the *EC* (NOT the BIOS).

That's all.

>>60704228
Then my reading comprehension is the worst ever, my bad.

>if you want the Real Business Experience™
Wasn't this the Real Thinkpad Experience ™ previously?

>>60704318
>Real ThinkPad experience
Oh shit I fucked up. Gotta fix that in the next thread

Going to university soon. Would a ThinkPad Yoga 370 (i7 7500U, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD) be worth 1.5k € ?

>>60704547
Read the buyers guide

Also, yoga is not a real thinkpad and buying a not used thinkpad is not recommended anyway

>>60704228
well there is more to it than that. Some keyboard modification and the pin that needs isolating(although most of the time its fine).

>>60705413
Very few people do this / very few people (if any at all other than the one) have reported actual failures from not doing this.

I have had two keyboard mods work fine without the extra pin isolation.The problem resolves itself after it shorts.

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>buy a secondhand T400
>BIOS is dated 2009
>soundsgood.gif
>test it before paying for it
>charges fine and the battery doesn't seem out of the ordinary
>plug it in at home
>set up BIOS settings
>battery refuses to charge and the AC indicator disappears when turning it on
>mfw the battery drained in no time and now it only displays error 190


>doesn't boot without battery
>having the battery hooked up has the indicator flashing orange three times before going green and resetting again to orange


Probably gonna see to getting a new adapter and/or battery. Any other suggestions?

Does anyone know where an Ausfag can get a good replacement battery for the X220? Mine is totally dead. Apparently the non-genuine ones are trash; is it true?

>>60699764
>correct model
>correct time period
>battery isn't eligible anyway
fuck me

>>60686522

That has the 1600x900 IPS panel in it and also the Nvidia Quadro NVS 4200M 512MB GPU as well so, it should be a nice machine if you can snag a battery, HD or SSD + tray cover (little piece of plastic for a few bucks on eBay), and the OS can be whatever you want.

Realize that it has no returns on that one because it's listed as "for parts or not working" - that seller's fine print says if it's listed as that type of product you get no warranty and no return capability at all so, if it's dead on arrival then you're out the $100+.

Since it doesn't say "WORKING" in the title or anywhere else in the list I personally would probably take the chance on it given it shows it's booted enough to get to the BIOS Setup screen (the E6420 does support UEFI as well but in a limited fashion).

The Nvidia models with the Quadro GPU and the 1600x900 display use a totally different heat sink as well as a different dual channel video cable (it's not the same as the 1366x768 models with or without the Quadro use, so be aware of that).

I own an E6420, would get that and swap the parts for it if I could afford it but look around, there are even better deals for the E6420 on eBay going on right now, some with 8GB of RAM and a hard drive for $140-ish and well worth it.

>>60687054

There's never been an E6420s model, just the E6420, E6420 ATG, and the E6420 XFR, you're babbling on about shit you know nothing about, son.

The Service Tag for that specific one shows it's got the "premium" IPS 1600x900 panel from Optronics in it, same panel I have in my E6420.

Also, if you have the Nvidia model as I mentioned in a post above you have to have the dual channel/link video cable or else it won't work with the 1600x900 panel, the single channel cable only works with the 1366x768 panel, a lesson I had to learn when I upgraded my E6420.

>>60705459
>Autism: the post.

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which one should I get?

>>60705571
What is that abomination on the left?

T470s or XPS 15 or X1 carbon?

I can't decide. Which has the best keyboard?

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>>60703931
For T530/W530 it's pretty easy.
There are some tiny plastic tabs on the bottom of the palmrest that you'll need to break off.
You'll also have to grind off a tab on the keyboard where the middle scroll button is.
On the top you'll need to cut off a bit of plastic near Esc and PrtSc keys to make the keyboard fit perfectly. It will fit if without this step, but removing it later is a pain.
Then you need to flash custom BIOS, search for thinkpad-ec on github.

All of this may sound complicated but it's actually pretty easy, certainly easier than on X-series (see>>60704142)

Source: picrel

>>60705583
The cheapest laptop with a FHD IPS display

All I want is a laptop with a IPS display but none! None! Of come with an IPS display...
I could buy a 23" IPS monitor for $120 and connect it to a $280 laptop and have a nice IPS display and a celeron laptop but! No $400 laptop comes with an IPS display!
Why!

>>60705571
>the chinkest of chink shit
>vs
>a legitimate thinkpad
gee, I wonder

>>60705611
If that is literally all you care about and you're willing to scrape bottom of the barrel garbage for it, look into an xx40 series ThinkPad. They have FHD IPS displays and can be as cheap as under $300. I believe nearly the entire line has FHD IPS options.

>>60705571
>>60705611
wait doesn't that actual chink shit have a fucking atom in it?

what the hell are you thinking?

>>60705629
>>60705611
>xx40
These have the horrible clickpad with no buttons, so make sure to do a xx50 swap.

>>60705644
It has a Celeron! Not an ATOM!
i7
i5
i3
Celeron
Atom

It's the Pentium G of the desktop CPU!
I just need a laptop for web browsing and watching videos as a gift!

>>60705652
He was about to buy a chinkshit laptop with a flat trackpad. I doubt he cares.

>>60705511
That was my mistake, I meant to say e6430 and e6430s. The pic in the listing indicate it is an e6430s with the 1600x900 screen but my research leads me to believe that screen is only available in the e6430. Since you know something about these, will the screen look okay or will it be a shitshow like the one in my T420s?

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>>60705655
There are probably Atoms that outperform that Celeron. It's nothing like the desktop Pentiums, where you still get respectable single-core performance and just have less cores than the higher-end CPUs.

>>60700645
Thanks my dude

anyone found a way to keep the ultrabay hdd caddy from going/getting put to sleep ? it's on windows, put 2x500gb hdds in my old t410 to store some rarely needed info there, but sometimes when it wakes up, the caddy with the main info has gone to sleep and i have to restart it properly.

>>60706002
Something something BIOS power management

>>60706034
ty, i think i've gone through it.... will look into it again

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Now that the dust has settled... can we all agree that the xx20 series was the last good thinkpads?

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>>60705923
Wrong, the Celeron is still better than the Atom. (Both are found in Chuwi models)

It's just a tier like how the desktop has i7, i5, i3, pentium and laptops have i7u, i7, i5, i3, celeron, atom
as long as you have something 1 tier better than an atom you're safe

>>60706110
*6* or bust

>>60706110
Newest thinkpads doesn't look that bad

However, my X220t is comfy as hell, just wish I could slap a 1080p panel in it

>>60706145
Believe whatever you want. The shit is still trash. The absolute bottom of the barrel CPU acceptable is a core-m3. And that's pushing it.

>>60706164
Hey, I'm thinking about getting one of those. Is it stylus only for touch? And if you can use your fingers, is it like a smartphone (capacitive) or resistive?

>>60706187
>Is it stylus only for touch?

Didn't get that part
But as far as I know, there is two versions of the screen:

The one I have, 2 finger touch/5 finger gesture, infinity Glass
The second one, Corning Gorilla glass direct bond, pen only

Both have a wacom digitizer that works with several type of wacom stylus and are of course capacitive

>>60706236
>>60706187

Fucking misclick
>>60706236
>>60706187
My bad, only the infinity glass one is capacitive, as the gorilla glass does not support finger touch at all

>>60691064
Here you go!

https://lewd.pics/f/c9ec2b60/vaporwave_awoo.png

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>>60705655
Atoms are the more "premium" super low power parts
celeries and pentiums are generally higher power, but around the same performance as the

>>60706259
I worded that weird up there. Meant to ask can you use your fingers on the screen or is it stylus only but you answered that question. Thanks.

>>60706557
can I have one without the middle finger and the sh*t word?

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Budget: £150~
Location: United Kingdom
Size: any
Performance: the highest this budget can get me/
Other requirements: none

>>60707001
Solution: read the guide

xx20 series
Go with a T420 if you're not sure about size

What kind of price should I be looking for with a T420 or T430 in Australia? I assume the buyers guide is aimed at burgers and I'm not sure what factors other than exchange rate will change the figure.

Apologies if this is too broad of a request

>>60707041
$500 maybe

Which models in the T470 lineup come with IPS?

And is 1440p worth it on a 14" screen?

>>60707570
No, 1080p on 14" is already more than sufficient. Only on the very largest laptop screens (17") could it be argued that 1440p is useful.

>>60707878
Even at 17" 1440p is way to small
I have a 25" 1440p desktop screen and thats about as small as I'd like to go
Maybe 20" for a laptop, but at that point it aint a laptop anymore

What kind of temps should my i5 t420 cpu hit?

It's idling right now at 35-38 C

>>60708335
100C before turning itself off

>>60705592
>t530
>not W530
why?

>>60708335
35-38c is pretty good for idle (assuming that you didn't just wake it from sleep)
99/104c is the max it should ever hit, and if it hits 100/105c (forget which it is for sandy bridge) it should turn off to protect itself
but if your computer ever hits 104c it will throttle to prevent damage

>>60708383
I couldn't find any W530s for that price. My T530 is pretty decent anyway, it has a 1080p AUO panel and a quad core CPU. I'm missing a dedicated GPU, but I wouldn't need it anyways so fuck it.

>>60693345
Seems like a cool project. I wish I was on your level.

You can still run Windows in a VM, right?

Are bids even worth going for? You always see these $12, 18 bids models on ebay and I'm not sure I can be arsed or if the seller needs to sell for the possibly very low sold price etc.

>>60708716
I just search for buy it now's and sort by "time: newly listed"

best way to find good deals

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>>60699764
Looks like I am!
Thanks for sharing!

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My x220 has the TN panel and seeing others IRL with the IPS panel makes me so sad

>>60709229
nitrocaster mod so you can lord resolution over them.

>>60709229
I don't go outside but how are you finding Thinkpads in the wild?

>>60709429
Not him, but my workmates have some personally owned thinkpads.
In my uni the most recent thinkpad I saw was a x250 (right when it came out).
My work mostly fields Elitebook/ZBooks, Latitudes and Tegras, with surfaces for management.

>>60709468
Oh, and monster desktops for Solidworks and light rendering.

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>>60709429
In my university there are quite a few people who own x200-x230. I always like to see them. Makes me proud.

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>>60684879
What replacement hard drives does /tpg/ recommend for the x220?
It takes standard 2.5 SATAs right?

>>60710200
no it has to be a 'slim' 7mm height drive

most 2.5" HDD's are 9.5mm

almost all SSD's are 7mm though

you should be getting an SSD anyways

>>60710261
You're shitting me?
This was not made clear to me by previous /tpg/s.
At the replacement cost, should I be looking into an upgrade or does the x220 still have life in it for a few more years?

Would an x230 and TN panel be good for college?

>>60710332
yes an X220 should last comfortably for a few more years (minus the battery)

and you can always take the hard drive out and stick it in another machine if you decide to upgrade (just get a 250gb ssd)

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>>60706557
thanks bruv

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>>60699764
I got a X220.
Now what. I have high hopes that I would be getting one, but then I remembered I live in Yuropoor.

FUCK YOU FOR GIVING FALSE HOPE

>>60684879
New thread: >>60710961

>>60685830
why would you say that? it beats typing in a password on my w500

For what purposes would an i7 2720m works better than an i5 2520m?

I mean, i know it's just faster, while also having actually 4 cores.

But, what should i be doing with my notebook, to justify this purchase? What kind of applications would justify it?

>>60711550
probably some kind of rendering or compiling. No point getting a quad core for chink cartoons and shitposting.

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>>60710686
>(just get a 250gb ssd)
Is it really worth it for the loss in capacity though?

>>60708390
hey my toshiba shitbook would run well up to 105c without any complaints, infact it ran better there than at 90c

>>60710676
Yes.
Spent 2 years of college using one. Ran everything like a champ.
Even CATIA, SolidWorks and Simulink.

>>60707041
From 270 to 330 dollarydoos if well equipped (quad core, 8 GB of RAM, HD+ screen, you name it).

>>60712058
It's well worth it; once you use an SSD and you feel the speed and responsiveness increase, you will never be able to use a HDD (unless it's for storage) again without feeling slow.