Nyaa Replacement General /nrg/

>>60676010
First

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>will this ever be finished?
we will never know

>>60672865
This too much effort for just one person, wtf.

How is this Nyaa Replacement General
and not NyaaPantsu Replacement General?

>>60676047
You would be very surprised what people with phones can do.

>>60676068
They are replacing Nyaa, not Nyapantsu, duh.

>>60676097
My bad.
How is this not NyaaPantsu General?

Real thread >>60675208
The true /nrg/

>>60676010
Just popping in to thank all the involved people for their hard work.

Why did nyanner have to be in java?

>>60676097
Why someone would want to replace a stable working site with the half-assed one?

>>60676145
Remember to contribute by uploading and reporting bugs. Have a good day.

>>60676160
>Stable working site
Good try Herkz

Am I a pussy or is Pantsu antagonizing companies that send DMCA requests a bad thing?

I don't know. Ignoring them vs. willingly telling them to go fuck themselves in a public manner seems a good way to be a target for potential action.

>>60676119
I think it's for legacy purpose. It started as a general for everyone to contribute, but just a few programmers decided to open a project, and it all narrowed down to just Pantsu. Other projects ended up being not supported by the community, due to the sketchy behaviour of their crew and supporters.

>>60676198
I guess the assumption is that they would act anyway.
Where/when did the "telling off" happen anyway, seem to have missed it.

>>60676234

>Copyrighters wall of shame
https://transparency.pantsu.cat

I remember PirateBay doing something similar a decade ago or something. It seems antagonizing them didn't work out so well.

>>60676234
The OP has a wall of shame now
https://transparency.pantsu.cat

>>60676229
>ended up being not supported by the community
>10x more uploads than pantsu

>>60676209
what happened here?is there any source

>>60676281
Nyaa's Sukebei is well ahaed of Si's though.

>>60676307
The original is a seal. Some dude jumps in after and gets her out.

>>60676281
The correct term is developed.

>>60676307
A Sea Lion being a cunt like usual.

>>60676249
Hm, really couldn't find that on the site through browsing, I wouldn't really call that "in a public manner".
But yeah, TPB did the same, but again, it's questionable if that contributed to the persecution/prosecution (though it certainly didn't have a positive effect on legal proceedings).

Since HS is promoting that other site, I'd assume (((they))) would go after them first, though.

>>60676281
According to the database pantsu has 10284 more uploads than the cartel site.

>>60676281
>community
I meant the singaporean amputee doll community known as 4chan. It's understandable that uploaders would prefer a project tied closer to the old website. But we all experienced how bad their decisions were and how bad is the cartel. Over time, Pantsu has more potential in growth because all of the people behind it.

>>60676356
And what part of that is 3DPD JAV shit?

>>60676410
>moving the goalposts :^))))

>>60676410
cartel site doesn't have 3DPD JAV?

>>60676395
lol
Where do you people even come up with this shit? I can't think of one bad descision made by .si.
Just compare them to the constantly down pantsu, broken panstu. The devs are learning just now, just some recently graduaded HS students. Never forget the shitty OPSEC of panstudev.

>>60676427
>I can't think of one bad descision made by .si.
nyaa.se

>>60676427
>you people
GTFO, shill

>>60676427
MUH CARTEL IS REAL GTFO SHILLLLLL
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH

>>60676427
>one bad descision made by .si
Not refering to .si, but old Nyaa and staffers that now support them.

>>60676410
That's 2D tracker, 3D shit is totally irrelevant.
>>60676423
Overall nyaa has less of junk and more of valuable torrents.

>>60676452
>>60676458
Can't think of something to say:
GTFO SHILLL

Keep trying retards.

>>60676472
That settles it.
Dropping nyaa.si now.
Nyaa.rip is the new hotness.

>>60676427
Can you at least try to change up the way you type, cartelfriend?

>>60676427
>I can't think of one bad descision made by .si
No mascots.

>>60676525
This is the best descision ever.
>>60676500
Can you at least try to think before you type dumb shit?

>>60676538
Fuck off herkz

>>60676427
>one bad descision made by .si
Showing comments counter.

>>60676575
Is a great thing. Can't think of any other torrent tracker that doesn't show comment count besides pantsufags and most likely it's because they simply don't know how to implement it.

>>60676097
We should make a nyaapantsu replacement general given how shitty it is

I'd recommend to ignore the one very obvious troll/shill in this thread.

>>60676597
BakaBT

>>60676631
Even if you do they'll just reply to themselves.

>>60676640
They have direct quality ratings instead.

just wandering here from /a/
Keep up the good work senpaitachi
love your determination to make a better se replacement, i will def use pantsu exclusively

>>60676678
Comment counters are not quality ratings

>>60676678
BakaBT have multiple torrent for the same site?
I thought they only accept one for each resolution.

>>60676751
*same show

>>60676713
Kind of indirect ones. Half-assed, but better than nothing at all. And I should've added that BakaBT doesn't allow to freely upload random shit, every torrent undergoes quality assessment and must be approved by admins before it becomes visible to all.

>>60676631
But he has a point. Do you genuinely believe that using something made by borderline child is a good idea? Kid is learning, and good for him, but you are exposing your own privacy and security by using his student project tier website.

We must secure the existence of our mascots and a future for scraped torrents.

>>60676776
This.

>>60676775
The unapproved upload list is like purgatory if you aren't a mod/modfriend. Things get stuck there for no raisin

>>60676776
>exposing your own privacy and security
?

>>60676775
I still can't see how that correlates with comments counters.
If anything, DL count is more closer to quality rating than comment counters.

>>60676597
minglong

>>60676776
>magnet links
>exposing your own privacy and security

literally how

Is HorribleSubs going to be unbanned? Who is Erai-raws?

>>60676911
DL counter is increased even if you downloaded something and it'd turn to be a complete shit that goes strait into the trash. How can one unironically consider this a quality rating.

>>60676949
>torrenting doesn't expose your IP
literally retarded?

>>60676968
>DL counter is increased even if you downloaded something and it'd turn to be a complete shit that goes strait into the trash.
Really?
Just tried to DL a random torrent 100x and the counter doesn't go up.

>>60676960
It's really funny how pantsufags whined about banned Doki and pledged they won't have a cartel-like censorship, and yet the first thing they did after their own flop is banning HS.

>>60676972
Not pantsu specific
>exposing your own privacy and security

>>60676972
wtf i hate torrents now!

>>60676991
And by 100x, I mean 10x.
Or are you talking about finished download?

>>60676998
>and yet the first thing they did after their own flop is banning HS.
Fake news

>>60676998
They didn't ban HS.
They just scraped the scraper.

>>60676876
>>60676949
Do you guys really believe he's not the same person he referred to as "he has a point" in his post? It's the shitposter, just look at his post, he's not that good in switching up his style to look like a different guy.
>next up: he'll switch up styles in an over-the-top way ("Yo, this bro has the right idea, man, totally on the money,yo!") - well, now maybe not anymore

>>60676968
Your fault for not doing basic research before downloading.
It's not like people still download shit show after it got famous as a shit show.

>>60677036
nah man im just bumping the thread

pantsudev is sleeping

>>60677027
>>60677033
>https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/user/14/HorribleSubs
>Banned
Pantsufags in denial trying to damage control, top kek.

>>60677065
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/929577

>>60677064
All is well, then.

>>60677056
>let's create additional obstacles for users, we're aiming to defeat our rival after all
BTW, I was talking not about shit shows but about shit releases. Though you're obviously too retarded to understand this subtle difference.

>>60677092
Not an argument.

Shitposting aside, what is the deal with HS?
I think I heard that HS was trying to kill NyaaPanstu scraper with fake entries and that's why they were paused for a while.

>>60677146
The story goes:
HS warned the pantsudevs that their scrapper is bad, they didn't fix it, HS fed it with fake entries, pantsufags disabled it.

>>60677127
>I was talking not about shit shows but about shit releases
That's even easier.
Popularity generally means quality, especially after time erase the advantage of speed.

Was there actually anything wrong with it, or were they just buttblasted?

>>60677065
They were banned for abusing the scraper, essentially flooding pantsu with garbage data, mocking us for not having better sanitation methods in the scraper.

>>60677161
No!
HS did onpurpose because they hate pantsu and cartel is evil and want money>>60677171

>>60677145
That's the simple proof that HS isn't banned.

>>60677146
Pantsufags boasted HS can't do anything about pantsu scraping their site. They showed they can (after telling about that vulnerability beforehand and waiting for several days for a fix). Pantsufags screeched and banned them. The vuln is still not fixed.

>>60677205
Not banned

>>60677205
Not fixed because the can't. A learning students can only do so much.

>>60677127
I thought we are talking about BakaBT?

>>60677236
>>60677205
They haven't fixed it because they thought HS won't do stupid crap like feeding the scraper 1000+ entries of garbage data.

>>60677193
HS is banned, retard. Their torrents still allowed to be uploaded though - a great improvement comparing to nyaa.se deleting any doki torrent even if uploaded by 3d party. It's definitely a thing to be proud of (at least delusional pantsufags doublethink so).

>>60677270
I didn't lock my door cuz I didn't think someone will steal. Yea, right.

>>60677205
What exactly was this vulnerability?

>>60677281
HS isn't banned.
A user named HS is banned, HS isn't.

>>60677293
More like
>I lock my door because I don't think people will stop crashing my furniture if I open it

>>60677281
>Why not the other ones? I have my concerns about the longevity, stability, and leadership of other alternatives like pantsu and anidex.
HS never made a pantsuit account

>>60677270
>>60677322
Sour grapes.

>>60677293
Retarded analogy, HS could still feed it garbage data even if the scraper has sanitizing feature.

From reading the replies, it seems as though HS thought the scraper should be better validating what was scraped as the scraper was written to assume all the data captured was good, and so HS fed it wrong data just because they were bootybothered.

Purely guessed from the replies posted here though.

>>60677314
>Doki wasn't banned, only a string [Doki] was.

>>60677310
Lack of sanitization. Scraper didn't verify inputs and prevent duplicates.

>>60677382
See >>60677092 and >>60677343

>>60677402
>see my perfect doublethink skills

>>60676010
>Scrapers in progress
Soon™

>>60677382
No, Doki had their account that they made banned, and they were also banned from making new accounts

>>60677419
HS release is uploaded by 3rd party from the very start and never stopped to be.

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well i would be buttblasted too when a highschool project is more popular than my website with 20 year experience devs

>>60677508
What's with that long magazine?

>>60677531
its long

>>60677448
>Uploaded by: れんちょん
Now try to search by that user (inb4: not needed).
And now anyone can anonymously upload a malicious torrent imposting HS release. Fuck your privacy and security.

>>60677563
I can't see how that related to anything.
Especially that privacy and security parts.

>>60677579
Surely you can't, otherwise you'd be using far more superior and official nyaa.se replacement.

>>60677596
>far more superior and official nyaa.se replacement.
nyaa.rip?

>>60677563
That's another issue entirely.

Internal Server Error

Devs are dead.

Why did I frequently get 503 error if I open nyaa.si?
Something to do with using dnscrypt?

>>60677658
Just like my desktop!

>>60677628
Then remove that /nrg/ tag and talk about just another generic torrent indexing site with close to zero exclusive content (inb4: muh 3dpd porn).

>>60677665
nyaa.si is using you to mine bitcoin

>>60677684
That's unrelated to the topic at hand.

>>60677531
Extended magazine, for when you really want to abuse the fullauto on a glock.

>>60677704
Everything is unrelated except mascots.

>>60677743
Dude, that's deep.

I can't believe Pantsu is fucking dead.

>>60677925
Just like nyaa.se!

>>60677975
;_;

>PantsuDev ded
>Miao ded
>kipukun ded
>tomleb ded
>even fucking Alucard ded

IT'S FUCKING OVER

>>60678110
But I'm here for you :)

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Suggestions:
- Add Maki as a mascot in the /g/ theme
- Keep the JS as it is. The site works really well with javascript disabled.
- Fix the .dev domain when accessed through unencrypted HTTP. Instead of showing the nginx page, it should redirect to HTTPS.

Gambatte.

>>60678158
Post lewd selfies for me.

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>>60677508

Suggestion: make mascots for every category. When a user chooses one - the mascot changes accordingly from the theme's default.

>>60678178
There's literally no point anymore. nyaa.zi won

>>60678178
Now that the dust has settled, how about adding comment counter to the right of dl count?
It won't be too eye catchy like that, but still provides a valuable info when needed.

You know what?
Why not remove date? It's not like people use that info.

>>60678267
scared?

>>60678158
Pls be my girlfriend (male).

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>>60678178
>Maki
>not Lain
Pls go and stay go

>>60678393
>/g/
>not Umaru

>>60676356
I've seen this a lot in these threads but I was never deep enough into the site to understand it.

What do you mean when you say cartel site? I get the general connotation associated with the word but not its particular application to this situation.

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>>60678431
lurk more then. or, how about, googling it.

>>60676356
Thanks, HorribleSubs!

>>60678447
nyaa cartel doesn't come with anything that seems relevant and your comment is both retarded and unhelpful. You don't even belong on this board so I don't know why you think the general users of this board would have a deep understanding of /a/ which is the only faggot board who thinks that is even a relevant response anymore.

>>60678523
Don't bother, the cartel is just one of the retarded /a/ memes that someone took too serious.

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>>60678393
Lain is for the another chan theme, not /g/

>>60678568
Hi Daiz go suck a dick

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>>60678523
The cartel is a mafia-like organization between fansubs to control where they put their shows (besides their own site). Daiz is the guy who normally speak for it.

The word came after they started to organize to stop supporting some sites altogether (Tokyo Toshokan) in favor of something else chosen by them. This backfired greatly with the nyaacalypse.

Now they are doing it again, spamming their tracker and boycotting their ""competitor"".

I don't think most subs make any money from ads, so I can only think of autism as a reason for their actions.

Here, I spoonfed you.

>go to the english subbed section of nyaa.si
>full of trusted torrents
>go to english subbed section of pantsu
>literally not a single trusted torrent, will probably get some ransomware if I download anything there

Pantsu literally btfo.

Wait so
>Pantsu scraped HS's releases as they said they'd do
>HS got mad and spammed the shit out of the scraped
>Pantsu then stopped the scraper and banned the HS account
>this is somehow Pantsu's fault and they're evil for having banned that account
What the fuck?

>>60679124
Thank you anon. That was very helpful and I appreciate it.

>https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/user/14/HorribleSubs
>HorribleSubs
>Banned

What the actual fuck.

>>60679144
>>60679304
That account isn't managed by HS. Pantsu's HS scraper is using that account to release HS torrents.

>>60679318
So the dev banned himself? Why does this kind of retarded autism not surprise me?

>>60679337
It's their fault for intentionally feeding more than 1000 entries of garbage data to Pantsu's scraper.

>>60679378
And it's been like a week now and still pantsu has no active scraping for HS files. For example, the dev could just scrape TT or anidex instead, but chooses instead to focus on moving the mascots around the page.

>>60679378
It'd be your fault when you download some fake torrent and get pwned.

>>60676229
>Other projects ended up being not supported by the community

t. Pantsuudev

Put on the trip you fucking faggot, I've tried to give your site several chances but you keep insisting on neglecting what features the community wants and you've been working on mascots, MASCOTS, instead of getting the site to have a stable uptime.

Fuck you

>>60679436
You can do better, shitposter-kun.
I know you can.

Ganbatte!

>>60679378
I don't understand how this happened? Doesn't Pantsu just watch their RSS feed? Wouldn't have that sent garage to everyone?

>>60679012
Lainchan was created after the fact. The dumb tomato slut was forced by some cock-sucking robot.

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Why no stats on the number of comments in the index, like nyaa.se had?
Why have an S/L/D column at all if it's just going to be "Unknown" for everything?
Why have so much obligate white space on the page?
Why is nobody uploading on pantsu.cat?

>>60679495
Every other piece of rss supporting software haven't been written in a meme language by an undergraduate noob.

>>60679478
Community here. Nyaa.zi can go fuck itself.

>>60679495
The problem happens when anons on /g/ project. We just assume that when a reasonable person starts up a website and assumes the mantle of developer, that he intends to actually, you know, develop the site into something functional that everyone will want to use and visit. We're projecting our expectations onto others because we aren't able to see the reality, that the actual dev for pantsu.cat is just some college kid whose idea of "developing" consists of copying some past site and then tweaking it to be in line with his particular tastes, which are, by the way, fucking awful and extremely immature.

This project was finished the day that retard from /d2g/ found this thread. The constant shitposting really made for a loss in image and nobody who was lent here from the start would take it seriously.

>>60677065
thats the user the scraper uses to uploaded, i shouldn't be giving a (You) but the shit thats coming out of your mouth is unreal
>>60677146
The main leader just spammed their own RSS feed with fake entries, causing it to be upped to pantsu, it was undone with a simple query however
>>60677563
we have mod teams for a reason
>>60678110
im starting to get more and more pissed about the hourly downtimes, its outside my domain but christ; i had a strict master is prod, dont make dev prod. and they fucking did it anyways which triggered me to no end, and is probably causing our struggles today.
>>60679436
we're working on making the site not go down every other hour, then the scraper is next.

>>60679559
Community here. After a full month of "development," I'm about ready to give up on using the site exclusively and relegate it instead to secondary site that I only occasionally visit when I can't find anything elsewhere.

The dev is really trying my patience lately. I really don't want to have to use nyaa.si as my main go-to site for anime torrents, but necessity compels me to find the site with the most functionality, the most unique uploads, the least quirkiness, and the most stability. And I'm sorry, but being able to add my own custom waifu to the website theme is not a function I am interested in. I don't think most other people care about it either. I explained in the last thread why it's useful to be able to see the comment number from the index, just as the latest example of my interaction with the dev, but all I got in reply was "lol, this isn't facebook." He doesn't understand the purpose of this pretty essential piece of information that is otherwise standard on other torrent trackers with commenting, which just tells me that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

>>60679651
no fuck you
I still believe in pantsu and will never abandon it, brb uploading some shit

why is there two threads

>>60679738
Read the OPs carefully and use your skills of comparison to find the answer for yourself.

>>60679705
>i had a strict master is prod, dont make dev prod.
explain please, I can't understand what you're saying

>>60679705
>we have mod teams for a reason

Can I apply somewhere?

>>60679711
Or maybe he plain doesn't see the point in having a comment counter. Seriously, other than that hilarious autism shitstorm on a torrent for Gabriel Dropout, have torrent comments ever been useful for anything? If you want him to implement such a feature, you should come up with better reasons for it other than "but every other site has it".
>>60679738
The other one is pure shitposting, read both OPs carefully and you'll understand.

>>60679705
How does it feel to have the gnawing realization sweep over you that you picked the wrong team? It's not too late to jump ship, you know.

>>60679771
>Nyaa.si is the leading nyaa.se replacement
oh wow, that didn't start very well

>>60679796
herkz go eat a cock

>>60679495
>Wouldn't have that sent garage to everyone?
Yes, that's correct. That's what happened. They came here and admitted they didn't filter by IP address when messing with their feed. However, most people do not auto-dl everything on the RSS feed. So they were unaffected. If there were torrent links associated with the fake RSS entries then anyone that does auto-dl everything would have had their bittorrent client attempt to download the garbage entries.

To be honest, anyone that isn't crazy would not trust them at this point. Their reason for spamming Pantsu was that they thought it would be funny. Their reason for taking down MangaTraders was that they thought it would be funny. I am concerned that one day they will exploit their users by distributing auto-downloaded malware because they think it will be funny. If there is ever a public exploit in MPC-HC or mpv then I would be very surprised if they do not take advantage of the situation.

>>60679791
Not him, but people will usually say if the subs are shit, the video quality is bad, etc. And for VNs, they might direct you to English patches or fixes in general. A comment counter, however, isn't a necessity. Just the comments are.

>>60679785
not for awhile yet
>>60679777
there are two branches in the repo, master and dev; dev is where all new commits go and when we reach a stable HEAD on dev, it gets pushed to master, and the server pulls master and uses it for the site
>>60679796
>implying i have one
>>60679814
the leader is known to be a troll, im not surprised

>>60679791
Like I said, the comment stats are just the latest example of being frustrated with the dev's priorities. If you were actually interested in using the website, instead of just concerning yourself with sucking the dev's dick in public, you, like me, would be able to list about a dozen other such examples where the dev basically demonstrated that he is totally incompetent.

>>60679304
HS is currently banned, and if people agree will be replaced by a more competent release group soon that im trying to create, i still have lots of things to think about properly of course.
I have always been quite neutral in terms of release groups but honestly, if it was totally up to me i wouldn't have any of their releases on our site after their malicious act. I do understand that in a way it can hurt the users, thats why im deciding to replace them.

Here if anyone wants to vote: http://www.strawpoll.me/13083173

>>60679839
>the leader is known to be a troll
You mean, he likes to banter?

>>60679836
The comment stats being visible in the index is a time-saving feature. How is that a bad thing?

>>60679857
>release group soon that im trying to create
I don't watch anime but good luck Mikolaj

>>60679876
>saving literally seconds of time while wasting hours watching nip shit
[autism intensifies]

>>60679857
You can try to replace them, but their releases should still be uploaded, don't act like a little kid because they were retarded.

>>60679852
Personally I don't really give a fuck if the dev is competent or not, as long as the site's basic functions work at least as well as Nyaa's ones did, I'm fine with it. The main reason why I'm sticking to pantsu is because I dislike the people who run nyaa.si and the kind of shit they've done and still do, if this scraper bullshit proves anything.
>>60679876
Not a necessity != a bad thing.

>>60679857
See, this is why I say that you fags don't have your priorities straight. People hated nyaa.se's mod team because they banned Doki and other small groups that released a small proportion of current anime fansubs. Horriblesubs produces 95% of the subbed anime files. They may be managed by trolls, but if you are going to ban their releases, then all you're doing is a disservice to users of the website looking for fucking anime videos. You have become the very cartel that you hate. Fuck this shit. I'm going elsewhere. Maybe nyaa.rip will develop a decent site eventually.

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>>60679918
>pantsufags
>not acting like little kids
impossible

>>60679869
leaking MT's DB was a banter?
wow

>>60679918
it's fine if someone want to upload their torrents, but Pantsu won't scrape them automatically anymore

>>60679869
Does spamming the site you didn't pair with count as banter?

>>60679942
>if you are going to ban their releases
But they haven't done that. They banned the HS scraper account because HS abused it in order to render their site nearly inoperable.

>>60679711
>which just tells me that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing
You're totally wrong because of being egocentric. The dev gets his IT experience building a real site and not doing some shitty college lab, that's very precious. Why do you think he should be following your strange ideas that nobody else shares?

>>60679897
Whose autism is bothering your booty so badly, anon-kun?

>>60679938
Sorry, but banning the release group responsible for 95% of currently airing anime is not a sign of competency.

>>60679942
Is there any guarantee that they won't intentionally feed the scraper garbage data again?
It's not really that hard to bypass the scraper's input filters

>>60679983
Banned the HS scraper and replaced it with nothing.

just use oppaitime instead idiots

>>60679983
Do you have proof? Seems like you're false-flagging HS here.

>>60679918
HS can analyse traffic again, detect the scraper IP and spam fake torrents pretending, or maybe torrents with malwares to pantsu users. HS isn't confiable anymore.

>>60679990
No one said about banning HS releases, it just that Pantsu won't scrape their releases automatically anymore

>>60679951
>>60679962
If racism counts as a banter, I see no obstacles to consider these likewise.

>>60679985
>the dev gets IT experience
Right. Because everyone was looking for some undergrad's junior project, and not a functioning nyaa replacement.

>>60679990
They didn't ban the release group lol.

>>60680041
>>60680041
BUT HE IS LEARNING SOMETHING OMG ISNT THAT ENOUGH?

>>60680005
Maybe if the dev had communicated with HS about his intentions to scrap their feed, they could have come to an agreement that wouldn't have pissed people off?

>>60679857
I wouldn't ban their releases, but I also wouldn't bother scraping their site. If other users upload them or they're scraped from other sites, fine. I also don't care too much about replacing their group since it's just Crunchyroll releases. Nobody actually likes HorribleSubs and if they disappeared tomorrow someone would take their place. For now they can waste their own money on server resources.

>>60680022
They literally came here and took credit for spamming Pantsu.

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I was not aware of what HS tried to do, condolences Pantsuu dev.

On a different note, fuck off with the mascots and get back to working on the site. Nyaa.se's layout was perfect, why not use it?

>>60680034
That's not much better, to be honest. The result will be a lot of missing anime episodes.

>>60680022
Check the archives, snowfag admitted it

>>60680039
Actions hurt more than words

>>60680075
>They literally came here and took credit for spamming Pantsu.
Show it.

The onus is on you, friendo.

>>60680071
Why does Pantsu in particular need to ask for permission to scrape their releases while none of the other similar options like TT and AnimeTosho need to do the same?

>>60680048
HS is de facto banned. Random anons can upload every single HS release every day manually, sure. Do you really think that will happen?

>>60679990
We didn't ban the release group HorribleSubs.
We disabled the scraper and banned the HorribleSubs account (the account used by the scraper) until we find/implement a way to safely scrape from HS again.

>>60680095
Check the archive yourself you lazy little shit.

>>60680076
>>On a different note, fuck off with the mascots and get back to working on the site. Nyaa.se's layout was perfect, why not use it?
The dev is gaining extra credit points for CompSci 512. OMG, can't you see the value in changing things up?!?!

>>60680123
HS could upload every single one of their own releases also if they ever made an account. Which they have not done.

>>60680100
He didn't need to ask for permission, but if he had communicated with them, he probably would have picked up on their animosity toward his site, which would have been a good warning to look out for their pranks. Although, really, the slanderous blog post should have been enough to warn him that HS was bad news and with them, you lose.

>>60680075
They can still be uploaded by other users or by scraping other sites, although in my opinion i wouldn't even want their releases on nyaapantsu anymore, but like i said, its not up to me. I will however do my best to try to replace them, i will take suggestions from anyone thats had experience with this before or wants something that HS releases don't have.

>>60680127
Do you think you will when one of your devs is actively saying that he doesn't want any HS stuff on the site?

>>60680071
He indeed communicated: "You won'l be able to do anything if I wanted to scrap you, lolol."

>>60680181
Ordered chapters is all you'd have to add to episodes if you want to kill Horriblesubs.

>>60680100
Because REEEEEEEEEEEE!
Basically.

>>60680193
Yes.

>>60680127
Is it possible to scrape another site that scrapes them? Sure, that would cause some delay in getting their releases and also wouldn't do anything to prevent another ebin prank like this, but if they got more sites involved with their hilarious schemes, their reputation would go down the drain with those sites as well.

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If you really need HS releases that much, why not just go to their official site?
Oh right, they have cancerous ads lole

>>60680197
>this is the person who took control of your anime torrents
And I thought Herkz was immature.

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>>60680095
Jaka == HorribleSubs owner.

>>60680071
We're talking about the same group that shut down MangaTraders for fun. They can't be trusted or reasoned with and would turn on anything they say.

>>60680150
>let's ban every fansub group who haven't ever made an account
Really a nice plan to win a broad audience, lol.

> Ask for permission
Weak bait.
Does HS ask CR for permission to rip their releases? lol.

>>60680132
Nice deflection and ad hominem.
I am not seeing any proof, are you false-flagging and trying to make HS look bad?

>>60680226
>not using adblock and ublock together
Last time I visited HS.info with ads enabled, I got a virus.

>>60680241
They're not banned. Why are you so retarded anyway?

>>60680219
People have been saying this since last week, but so far the dev's response has been: "I'll do it after I make an option to upload custom mascots."

>>60680247
I am not even the anon you are trying to bait, I just called you out for being lazy.

>>60680235
>>60680171

>>60680041
Right. Some people were more interested in looking for a tracker free of the "cartel", and they've got it. Other who were looking for a functioning nyaa replacement have got nyaa.si.

>>60680235
>shut down MangaTraders
What they did was way worse than shutting MT, they leaked MT's user data (including emails and unhashed passwords) just for fun™

>>60680245
>being a member of the anime pirating community
>refreshing a fellow community member's website once every minute
>feeling that you're entitled to use that much of their bandwidth
>being surprised and acting indignant when they make you stop

Sorry, but this isn't high school anymore, pantsudev.

>>60680278
Again, they can't be trusted or reasoned with. It's arguable that they should have known how shit Jaka is, but hindsight is 20/20 and presumably they gave him the benefit of the doubt.

>>60680306
I think you mean Cloudflare's bandwidth.

>>60679857
It's just video files, don't divide the seed pool and keep scraping

>>60680323
>HS can't be trusted or reasoned with
>giving Jaka the benefit of the doubt
You're contradicting yourself.

Adults communicate their intentions, for their own good, before acting in a way that affects other people. Children do whatever they want without regard for the outcome and then act surprised when they are met with people who tell them "no."

>>60679814
I didn't get any garbage on the 720p HS feed and I update everyday, is it true more than pantsu was effected?

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>>60680381
Don't even try to argue with pantsufags
they are like a retarded cult at this point and will not heed logic anymore

>>60680306
> Doesn't know how torrents feed works
Every user with uses horrible's feed is "refreshing" their website (feed) once every minute.

Try hard.

>>60680407
Do you download everything in the feed, or do you only download the anime you are interested in, like 99% of people who use RSS feeds?

Why not unban the scraper bot and let HS do whatever they want? If they decide to continue doing their "prank" even after everyone knows about it, then it will become even more obvious how assholish they are.

>>60680422
this

>>60680420
Wouldn't it still show as an entry? All mine are legit shows

>>60680408
this

>>60680422
Everybody already knows how assholish they are. The problem is there are no alternatives, so we're always going to be stuck with HS's pranks.

>>60680381
>You're contradicting yourself.
No, I'm not. I know they can't be reasoned with. The same way you can't reason with anyone else that is actively malicious for fun. For them, not being malicious is less fun, so obviously they wont go that route, which means there is no reasoning.

As for them not liking being scraped, nobody cares. I'm sure Crunchyroll doesn't like HorribleSubs scraping them either. They're literally founded on not giving a shit what other people think. If the Pantsu devs wanted to work around their malicious behavior, it's perfectly doable, there's just no point.

>>60680443
Not if they deleted the files right after pantsu.cat's bot had made entries for them.

>>60680452
>we
how does this even affect you?
i never went to HS website
i download their shit from other sources and i am not affected by anything HS does

> People think it's ethical to spam fellow websites.
> Calling pantsu users a retarded cult.
Sounds right.

>>60680407
It was probably in the "Everything Feed"

>>60680408
>point out flaw with pantsu's design
>a million blind followers immediately jump on me
>"we don't want it to turn into reddit"
>"this isn't facebook, you autist"
>"fucking cartel get out reeeee"

What's the point of sopamming these general threads all over /g/, then?

>>60680443
Don't mind, that's nothing more than a damage control. Every properly written software simply won't process garbage in a feed because it's a fucking common sense considering how rss can be naturally prone to all sorts of errors without any malicious intent.

>>60680464
Can you use logic?

>Fact 1: HS can't be reasoned with or trusted.
>Fact 2: You trusted HS.
Conclusion A: You aren't able to learn from past mistakes or use your knowledge to inform your actions. That makes you an idiot.
Conclusion B: You didn't know previously that HS couldn't be reasoned with or trusted. That makes you uninformed and ignorant.

Either way, you're a dumbass.

>>60680477
>ethics in a pirate open seas
wew, lad

>>60680518
If they created fake entries that looked like torrents, and their torrent client had rules to auto-download those fake entries, then of course they would attempt to download it. Remember, the entries looked real enough to get scraped.

>>60680534
I didn't trust them. I've known they were cunts since they did this >>60680300. The Pantsu dev team is apparently more trusting, though probably not anymore.

>>60680565
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_code

Idiot.

>>60680479
Anyone using the everything feed to confirm?

>>60680565
yeah, but I for sure won't trust a pirate group that's already known for being major assholes

>>60680575
Considering that the entries were actually labeled as kiss anime ads, I don't think they had to "look real enough" at all.

>>60680464
>malicious for fun
Do you remember when it was revealed that commenting on sukebei deletes the torrent? I bet everyone in that thread went to sukebei to delete few torrents just for fun. I remember I tried to add comments too, but almost all links on front page gave me 404 because anons were actively deleting them. Still I managed to take down like 5 torrents before devs closed comments. I didn't intend to harm sukebei, but I deleted torrents anyway because I found it hilarious.
It's internet. It's 4chan. People do this shit all the time.

>nyaa dies out of nowhere, people realize that putting all their eggs in one basket was a mistake
>two replacements are created shortly after
>then a partner of one of them actively tries to hinder the other one
Thank you for the healthy competition guys, I guess everyone should move solely to nyaa.si then because there's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that it could suffer a fate similar to nyaa's

>>60680604
Your torrent client doesn't give a shit what the title of the torrent is, kissanime or not. It just cares whether there is a title and a magnet link.

>>60680616
I might agree if they hadn't previously leaked the uncensored database containing plaintext passwords of everyone that used MangaTraders. They are actively malicious.

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>>60679857
>HS banned
wew pantsu, they just banned the only subber group that actually got shit done and released current season stuff. Did you even try to ask them to stop with the scraping bs? Probably not, and now you don't know what might have happened if you did.

Way to drive traffic away from your site, idiots. I'll just sit back and watch you succumb into your own shit and when you finally do, I'll laugh because you deserved it in its full extent.

>>60680579
>"Pirate articles varied from one captain to another, and sometimes even from one voyage to another"
>talking about ethics between rivaling parties

Idiot.

Question: can an average, normal person set up their own scraper for HS's releases, and then get them automatically uploaded to Pantsu?

>>60680670
>subber group

>>60680671
> rival
> a lot of nyaa clones = redundancy

homo inferioris

>>60680670
Exactly, because the fault in this whole matter lied with Pantsu. HS is completely innocent, they did nothing wrong.

>>60680677
you'd have to tell pantsudev to scrape from you automatically
but nothing prevents horrible subs from feeding you garbage data that will end up being fed to pantsu

>>60680677
Won't it be added automatically when anidex.info scraper is done though?

>>60680575
The entries looked real enough only when you won't give a shit about sanitization. There were no complains about broken feeds from anyone else (otherwise prove the opposite with a real example).

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Who's Erai-raws?

>>60680714
Nope, you can sanitize the filenames, but they still can fake magnets, or send a fake magnet with malwares to the scraper IP. It's easy to identify a scraper.

>>60679857
This kills the pantsu.

>>60680620
>while the other basket is full of gaping holes which render it almost useless

Here's the answer to your question.
>>60680127

>>60680762
Well, yeah.
I mean, someone actively poking holes in the other basket.

>>60680695
I hesitate to use the term "fansubber group" because they do it at an almost industrial scale with mostly consistent quality compared to "fansubbers" who (mostly) do it in their free time and have other IRL stuff besides subbing

>>60680762
There are problems with both alternatives right now, but Pantsufags just banned the one group responsible for 95% of currently airing subbed anime. Take a guess at where the majority of people will now go to get their anime.

>>60680743
How can they ID a scraper from an anon? I can have my Pi running 24/7 updating the RSS every minute, would I get mistaken for pantsu?

>>60680806
Put in a little more effort next time, anon.
Jeez.

>>60680816
>Pantsufags just banned the one group responsible for 95% of currently airing subbed anime
They banned the account they make to scrape their release.
Big difference.

>>60680704
They openly warned pantsu devs about an existing vulnerability beforehand. Surely pantsu are innocent because they prefer tinkering with mascots rather than fix vulns and that's a completely normal behaviour.

>>60680816
The group wasn't banned dingus

>>60680714
I'm not really sure what you're disputing here. An RSS feed is just XML. Here's what a torrent entry looks like in one

<item>
    <title>[Torrent Title]</title>
    <link>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:[Torrent Hash]&amp;tr=[Tracker List]</link>
    <guid isPermaLink="false">[GUID]</guid>
    <pubDate>[Date]</pubDate>
</item>

Nothing complicated. HorribleSubs can put whatever they want for all of that. As long as the magnet link looks like a magnet link, your client will load it. But like I said, nobody auto-downloads everything on the feed and they deleted the entries afterward. So unless you were on the Everything feed while the entries were there and you auto-downloaded everything, you wouldn't notice. I still wouldn't like getting fed garbage data, and I sure as shit wouldn't trust them to not get you to auto-download something they think will be funny in the future.

>>60680844
>implying people do both frontend and backend

>>60680837
Not a big difference, a minor technicality. The result is still the same. Lots of episodes are already missing.

>>60680806
loled

>>60680864
The difference is that it'll be fixed soon™.

>>60680820
No. But there are plenty of ways to ID a scraper if you're persistent enough. I'm not giving HS any ideas if they don't know how, since there are a few ways that are very difficult to work around.

>>60680816
Exactly, they should have let that group take a huge and long shit all over their site instead. HS dindu nuffin.

>>60680844
And that gave them the right to spam the shit out of Pantsu with bogus entries?

>>60680973
>let's ban everybody who brings us technical problems (stemming from our own incompetence for starters) instead of applying technical solutions that won't affect benign users
Nice basket you've got there, pantsu cultists.

>>60681034
They banned their own account, what are you talking about?

>>60681046
>>60680864

why did horriblesubs fuck the scraper over

>>60681061
>>60680882

>>60681034
When those people cause those technical problems themselves, on purpose, then yes, the correct choice is fucking banning them. I'm sure that you'd be perfectly fine with me exploiting something to spam your site as long as I warned you about it beforehand, right?

>>60680844
>vulnerability
It's not really a vulnerability though, even if you filter duplicates, nothing is stopping HSfrom just putting crap in their RSS, it's impossible to detect. But I guess you cartel shills don't want to hear that. Herkz gave you a document full of "arguments" against pantsu that you spam all over these threads now.

>>60681067

>>60680197

>>60680229
See: >>60650254 >>60650267

>>60681092
When you run a website for the benefit of your users, all decisions should be informed by the fundamental question: Is what I'm doing in my users' best interest?

In the case of banning Horriblesubs, the motivation appears to have been for PantsuDev to save face and make nyaa.pantsu.cat look like it's more professionally put together than it actually is.

>>60681106
So basically

Pantsu devs said "you can't do shit, we'll scrape it" and HS retaliated back?

>>60681152
Race realism and awareness of Jewish tricks are signs of maturity.

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>>60681092
That is exactly how it works, yes.
If you discover a vuln then you call the owner of the site or w/e and tell them. If they don't react the next step is to exploit it to make them take action.
Fucking underage retards like you wouldn't know about this though.

>>60681092
If my site actively does something to yours - yes, it's my responsibility to do it correctly in the first place. Don't try to spin it like innocent pantsu dindu nuffin while le ebil cartel actively tried to breach into.

>>60681155
Not really, the motivation behind banning their own HS scrapebot was "because it was flooding the shit out of the site".

>>60681155
>In the case of banning Horriblesubs
HorribleSubs isn't banned. The account that the scraper auto-uploaded to is banned. But HS didn't use that account. They could still make their own account.

>>60681158
Basically, he issued HS a dare. Then he acted surprised and offended when they took him up on it.

Guys, I just googled about the whole HS hacking mangatrades story from 2 years ago:
https://roosterteeth.com/forum/comics-%26-anime/topic/2255953
Apparently HS staff (snowfag, matt and botox) admitted hacking on their IRC. But wait, there is something more to it. There is one more name in those IRC logs.
><snowfag> does anyone want the database with all the paypal donation info
><ewhal4> Sure
>ewhal4
>w
>h
>a
>l
>4

Pure coincidence? No. From the very beginning PantsuDev was secret agent of cartel. His goal was to distract you, to create illusion of competition, to create false belief that there is opposition to cartel. And now he is actively sabotaging pantsu development to establish total control and domination of nyaa.si.
I bet he is the one who constantly leaks patsu IP in these threads. He is the one who made HS scrapper to spam pantsu to get HS releases banned.

We were destined to fail from the very beginning.

Just scrape HS releases from tokyotosho and anidex then cross-checking them, what's even the problem?

Who cares if they banned HS RSS?
Do you really want to stubbornly trust HS when you can get it from elsewhere just as safe?

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>>60681152

>>60681193
who is ewhal

>>60681170
Then why did people that avoid taxes gets caught?

>>60681185
>HorribleSubs isn't banned.

>>60679857
>Miao !!WcW4bY0JsNx 05/31/17(Wed)15:48:58
>HS is currently banned

>"b-but they're not TECHNICALLY banned, tho.... "
>>60680864

>>60681231
See
>>60680127
>>60680181

This whole thing is sketchy as fuck.

So Ewhal is the "Pantsudev" fag? The same cunt that is spamming /g/ with this general over and over again for one month now?

>>60681100
>even if you filter duplicates, nothing is stopping HSfrom just putting crap in their RSS, it's impossible to detect
Prove it. Show how exactly their rss was modified and why no one ever could prevent it. Or gtfo with your post-truth bullshit.

>>60681231
Yeah if by banned you mean the scraper and the account it used are no longer functional, sure. Not sure what you'd want them to do, continue scraping a malicious website?

>>60681217
He is literally PantsuDev.

>>60681265
Top fucking KEK

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>>60681193
mindfuck

>>60681202
We've been trying to tell the dev to do this for a week now. His priority seems to be implementing a customizable mascot, though, so it will have to wait another month.

>>60681193
Then why did people actively shitpost here?

>>60681292
Because shitposting is fun.

>>60681290
>implying frontend and backend is done by the same person

>>60681311
Stop making excuses.

What did HS even get out of flooding Pantsu's scraper? Did they do anything other than prove how they're malicious assholes who can't be trusted for shit?

>>60681261
See >>60680854

They can put whatever they want in their RSS feed. They could put a magnet link to CP in there, title it "One Piece 821 [720p].mkv" and it'd get auto-downloaded by thousands of people. You can't validate whether a magnet link is real or not. The best you can do is check multiple sources and only scrape files that appear on more than one site. But that's still exploitable at some level.

>>60681331
Stop making terrible argument.
The dev is just that incompetent, no more, no less.

>>60681193
HOLY SHIT
MIND = BLOWN

>>60681341
That's all attention whores want.

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>>60681193

>>60681357
Telling you to stop making excuses isn't an "argument" and doesn't pretend to be. It's a challenge to take responsibility for your own actions.

>>60681344
Show me an actual malformed entry of theirs and not your wet dreams and hypothetical bogeymen.

>>60681417
>Hypothetical
You're just trusting them not to do something. And there is no reason to trust HorribleSubs

I don't see what the big deal is. Where ever they get it from, kissanime is still going good for me.

>>60681193
OH MY DOG

>>60681341
They just proved that ewhal's words about how they can't do a shit against him scraping their site is nothing more than a vain boast.

>>60681404
It's not excuse.
Just a simple fact.

It's like blaming the government because you lost in court the other day using drugs.

>>60681417
So you mean that just because all the malicious entries have been dealt with and were rightfully deleted, there's no proof that they did anything wrong and thus they're innocent? Yeah I mean it's not like people have been enjoying a shitstorm for a while or anything, everyone just had a collective dream and they're having a drunk discussion about something that never existed.

>>60681434
HS warned pantsu about the vuln beforehand, period. I consider it as a valid proof of their true intentions. Everything else is nothing more than creating a straw bogeyman.

>>60681417
Are you too dumb to understand the issue at hand or are you just trolling? I'm hoping for latter. It's not about malformed entries, it's about entries which appear to be legit but are not. It's impossible to detect. They could just add a magnet link for CP and make it look like a legit anime episode. You would only be able to detect this by actually downloading and watching it.

>>60681456
If the government spammed /pol/ with a general thread 24/7 to crowdsource ideas for developing public policy, and people repeatedly told them how to fix a crippling problem with policy, but they repeatedly ignored it, then your analogy might be comparable. However, to my knowledge, that still hasn't happened yet.

>>60681511
They actually didn't warn them. They tested the exploit previously, which is not the same as warning.

>>60681526
So you blame your government for lowering taxes because there's starving children in africa?

>>60681510
2/10 have your (You).

>>60681526
That was called the HRC campaign.

>>60681456
>pantsu devs are so arrogant that they think they are like a "government"

Pretty much supports the hypothesis in >>60681193 that pantsu.cat is a false flag by the cartel to give us the illusion of freedom while slowly eroding the public's desire to distance themselves from the cartel, and eventually turn to the cartel because there are no other choices.

>>60681517
>entries which appear to be legit but are not. It's impossible to detect.
You can't prove it with objective data. It's only your presupposition aka bullshit.

>>60681555
I don't follow what you're trying to say.

>>60681564
LEL.