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>only OSX has good font rend-
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>>60643879
nah
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>>60643879
how do you even get good font rendering on linux?
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>>60643929
Yay for Gnome
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>>60643951
You look at bad rendering for so long until you're used to it.
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>>60643951
lots of haxxing aka reading wikis
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>>60643951
Install a modern DE like Gnome or KDE instead of trying to be a hipster.
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OP your screenshot looks like puke and diarrhea at approximately 1:1 ratio
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win10 is superior, we all know that
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heres mine
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>>60644015
I didn't realize how horrible Windows font rendering was until I switched to macOS.
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>>60643963
g-good joke anon
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>>60643879
>Using Chrome as an example
2/10 made me reply.
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>>60644191
>implying it's chrome
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>>60644153
>here's my useless image
Thanks for that m88.
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>>60644202
I am, yes.
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>>60643951
https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671#creating-an-infinality-like-fontconfig-configuration

follow this guide and install web-safe fonts like Open Sans, Droid Sans and serif

https://fonts.google.com/
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>>60643879
I still prefer macOS. Also, macOS can actually show the kanji on that page.
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>>60644347
Linux can too. WenQuanYi Micro Hei has kanji/hangul/hanja/hanzi and more Asian fonts, all in one. But OP does not have it installed.
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>>60644347
>macOS can actually show the kanji on that page
Rocket science.
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>>60643879
>osx
>good
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>>60644486
>GPL
>free
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KDE works fine
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Stock fedora, fuck hinting.
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>>60644505
>GPL
>Incompatible with GFDL

Fucking GNU, can't even make a compastible source and documentation license - that's right, you CAN'T ship code licesned under GPL and Documentation for that code under GFDL together.
Hell, it's legally gray as to whether you can even write documentation for a GPL licensed program with GFDL.

What a bunch of a fucking moronos.
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hdpi scaling is on but so what, same with any macfag
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>>60644438
or just install fucking noto if you want to be safe for any language under the sun
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>>60644608
I will do that actually, thanks for the advice
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>>60644647
They might not be THE best font for every single language but it's the best if you just want every language covered with great fonts. Consistency is nice too
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>>60644004
>>60644015
why does the text have red shadow?

>>60644573
>fuck hinting
I agree
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Using cinnamon
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>>60643951
It's good out of the box these days.
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>>60645604
>only 5k
check out this poorfag with only one monitor
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>get a copy of infinality
>make multiple copies, save it literally everywhere so you won't lose it
>install whenever
there, i solved your font problems
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>>60643879
>Blurry text
This is a terrible meme.
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>>60645817
thanks my eyesight went bad from looking at your screenshot and you're covering the cost of the operation to fix it
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>>60643951
I honestly just use the font config on manjaros page and it looks pretty nice.
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>>60645706
infinality ded m8
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>>60643951
up to date freetype
disable hinting
also https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671
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>>60646010
if it still works its good
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>>60645244
>>60644544
>>60645817
>>60645812
>>60644153
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>>60645016
It's called sub pixel Antialiasing.
It's literally the best quality an rgb screen can display fonts.
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>>60643972
Last time I downloaded KDE (about a month ago) it had antialiasing turned off by default.
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>>60646273
>It's literally the best quality an rgb screen can display fonts.
sure looks to me like it's the best way to have shit fonts with colouring artifacts that give you a headache
sub pixel aa and font hinting are the devil
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>>60646297
Do you use pentile or what? On a normal rgb screen, correctly sub-pixel antialiased fonts look much sharper than grayscale
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>>60646139
post yours
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I never think about font rendering. Is mine any good?
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>>60645997
El oh el.
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yes yes very good arch HOWEVER
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Am I the only one who prefers non-blurred edges on my text?
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>>60646890
No.
>>60646831
>>60645817
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>>60646439
>correctly sub-pixel antialiased fonts look much sharper than grayscale
We are talking about no antialiasing at all.
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>>60646971
To be fair, many typefaces look terrible without antialiasing. You need to use custom CSS (e.g., the Stylus extension) to change everything to Arial.
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>>60647053
...like so.
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THIS is font rendering
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>>60647053
>>60647074
Unfortunately, people forgot about finely refined pixel-perfect fonts.
It just makes me sad.
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macOS renders the fonts as they would appear on the printed page, and not to the arbitrary concerns of an autistic Shasta-guzzling engineer who believes aesthetics are for fags; it is the only choice for those with actual taste
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Can I play too?
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>>60647469
Absolutely disgusting kerning; you people aren't even trying
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pathetic lincucks with their blurry thin deformed flacid fonts
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Try to impress me, /g/. Tell me what I'm using here.
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>>60643951
yaourt google fonts
install them
hinting Full
subpixel RGB or BGR depending on dark or light theme.
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How is it /g/?
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>>60644438
>that J
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>>60647691
some oldass laptop with 1280x1024 screen?
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>archlinux.png
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Daily reminder that it is useless to compare fonts on desktop screenshots, and being watched on a gazillion of different browsers, image viewers, displays etc.
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>>60647367
>macOS renders the fonts as they would appear on the printed page, and not to the arbitrary concerns of an autistic Shasta-guzzling engineer who believes aesthetics are for fags; it is the only choice for those with actual taste
Show me rainbow blur, faggot.
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>>60647691
medium hinting with bgr I believe. Shit taste my guy. Full hinting + RGB is best
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>>60643879
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Font rendering is usually pretty good these days, even on shitphones. It's only on Windows that it's an embarrassment.
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Mac os has no feature to change the font rendering in case you have a screen with non standard subpixel layout. Embarrassing, it's actually the worst just based on this.
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>>60643879
That looks like shit.
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>>60644647
arch with whatever the replacement for infinality was, forget the name.
QTWebEngine.
I set the minimum fontsize to 12 because 'don't zoom images' isn't implemented yet.
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>>60648167
>4336x831
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>>60648578
didn't mean to quote
and forgot this
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>>60648430
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>>60644331
>web-safe fonts
wtf does this mean
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This is probably the ultimate font rendering test
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>>60648668
except that its completely irrevelant to regular font rendering in any non-asian part of the world
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>>60648700
The idea is that if you can handle this, you can handle anything.
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>>60648585
>>60648375
>>60647617
>>60647367
>>60647097
>>60644589
>>60644544
>>60644004
these are the only acceptable font renderings in this thread so far
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Someone tell me if this is good or bad, I can't tell the difference.
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>>60648590
firefox to compare
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Why do you guys care about such inane things?
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>>60648920
Catch-22
>caring about font-rendering is autism
>not caring about font-rendering is autism
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>>60648585
RAINBOW BLUR
A
I
N
B
O
W

B
L
U
R
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I like it.
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>>60648430
>>60648968
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>>60649075
Now it's fine, thanks
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>the current workaround to make macs display fonts properly on bgr screens is turning the screen 180 degrees
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good?
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>>60647953
believe it or not you can resize windows nowadays
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Why does it seem like it's hard as balls to change webfonts
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>>60643951
By installing hackintosh
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>>60646502
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>>60646297
You have a shitty monitor.
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>>60645244

This is the best one here. The rest are shit.
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>>60649983
I'll bump by asking
>qutebrowser settings
> # web-family-standard (FontFamily):
> # Font family for standard fonts.
> # Default:
> web-family-standard =

>set it to sans-serif
>no change
>set it to "Lucida Grande" which is apparently a font family
>no change
what the fuck
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People that prefer grayscale over subpixel hinting should be gassed on the spot.
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>>60643879
Meh...
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Firefox on Linux with Freetype 2.7.
DejaVu Font and light hinting enabled.
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>>60645706
>>60643951
https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221

>>60648578
it's liberation or croscore WITH working configs
also remove noto it shits infinality so much

>>60652694
dejavu sucks brah
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>>60647053
>arial
>sans-serif fonts for reading
no thank you my man
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>>60644347
>macOS can actually show the kanji
Damn son Windows and linux btfo
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>Not a single browser antialiases Kanji anymore

Makes Niconico look like shit.
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>>60654628
sans is better for computers
serif is better for paper
prove me wrong
>protip
you can't
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>>60654646
Forgot image.
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>>60654646
it's not the browser's work to antialias your fonts
it's the freetype conf you probably don't have
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>>60654646
works for me
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>>60654653
huh, I googled to prove you wrong but it turns out that i just got proven wrong
thanks for actually changing my mind anon :)
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how do i fix it
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>>60654671
>Kanji and Kana were antialiased in Firefox 52
>Update Firefox to 53
>Changed absolutely nothing with my system configuration
>Kanji is no longer antialiased
>Kanji used to be antialiased in Blink-based browsers, now it isn't

Something changed in these browsers all around the same time that completely fucked things up.
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>>60654748
Google decided to fuck up even more font rendering on Chrome and Mozilla copied them, nothing out of the ordinary
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meanwhile, in Edge
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>>60654768
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>>60654776
>>60654768
jokes aside, Edge works like a mobile phone interface, so the zooming is pretty much pixel perfect
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>>60648606
Means it's above your head and you should probably just leave it default and gb2 r/linux
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meanwhile, in Edge
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>>60654573
>it's liberation or croscore WITH working configs
did you mean to quote me?
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>>60654817
who were you?
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>>60654836
the reply i quoted.
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>>60654853
that was me
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>>60654859
the reply that that was replying to.
same thing.
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>>60654871
that post replied to 4 posts
which one are you talking about
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>>60654878
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windows sucks so bad with language options too
you'd think being run by pajeets theyd have the multicultural aspect done right

instead you get shit font rendering and typing alternate scripts like kanji is a pain
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>>60654881
k so you're the archfag
what's your question desu
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>>60654896
it doesn't seem relevant to my post. you noted two fonts, when I was talking about a patchset.
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>>60654909
>arch with whatever the replacement for infinality was, forget the name.

no where is it actually written though
archniggers will remove from the wiki any relevant information which might actually help their userbase setup their font rendering in five minutes
you only see that long gist referred around which is misleading imo
you only need bohoomils confs with 2.7 and his github is still up
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>>60643879

r8 me h8 me
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>>60647726
Yaourt sucks use Pacaur
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>>60652149
This is only the default font, if the website overrides it with something more specific, it has no effect.

If you want to change all fonts, you'll need to write a CSS which does so, and use the ui -> user-stylesheet option with it.
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>>60655076
I figured it was something to that effect.
Helpful as always, thanks.
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>>60655033
I see no benefit over the other tbqh
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Even my smartphone has better resolution. Poorfags errywhere
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>>60643879
I do not see how is windows 10 font render worse than ios or other.

pic related.
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>>60643879
Here's a little sneak peek at fuchsia for you guys ;)
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>>60646971
Without antialiasing you effectively reduce your horizontal resolution (vertical in portrait mode) by a factor of 3.

I mean you could do that, but you'd just end up with more jagged text.
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>pic related
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>>60646297
>with colouring artifacts
that's not the AA
that's the hinting

im now using this https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221

i tested 10-base-rendering.conf and found it to be the cause
i suspected rgba or lcdfilter but it turned out to be the hinting

>text with
none - blurry / red
slight (default) - blurry / red
medium - clear / no red
full - clear / no red but bohoomil's configs letter i was fatter than the rest

even setting the lcdfilter to light does not make letters reddish
the more you know
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>>60644015
>uneven spacing
>l and i are too similar to tell appart when placed next to each other.
I guess we found the cause for dyslexia.
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Windows checking in
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>>60643879
>can't render moonrunes

You're right, only OSX has good font rendering
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>>60658833
>full - clear / no red but bohoomil's configs letter i was fatter than the rest
on zerohedge

doesn't seem to be a black and white solution but medium and full do make fonts a lot clearer and sharper
too bad the only public people/person (bohoomil) who knew what fonts to use and where is missing :(
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>>60657409
looks alike they just ripped the android rendering.
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Everything is daijoubu
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What even is good font rendering? What are the objective criteria to judge?
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What can I even do to make my fonts not shit on W10 + Firefox?
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>>60665240
>>>/gd/
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>>60655249
yaourt sources pkgbuilds before letting you read them
drop trip
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>>60643879
Default Xubuntu
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Inconsolata master race.
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>caring at all about font rendering
I know you're all neets, but come on.
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Default KDE Plasma
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>>60657409
you're a big font
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>>60666380
That's disgusting
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safari for comparison
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>>60667485
ftfy
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>>60643879
MacOS is better but I think this is quite nice. arch here.

Settings from here
https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671
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>>60667921
This post might be better with the file.
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How to easily reduce screen tearing?
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>>60667685
Now do it again at 1:1 scaling
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>>60643879
>>60643929
>>60644004
>>60644015
>>60644544
>this is good is good font rendering
I'm just gonna leave this one here
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>>60666380
>I like the inconsolata font
>see this
Yes, I'm triggered
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>>60667721
underrated
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>>60667685
macOS has had God-tier font rendering since the World Trade Center still stood

When will the autistic communist nerdazoids and capitalist corporate cubicle drones get their shit together? We put a man on the moon in less time.
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>>60669896
vsync
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>>60670906
isn't that because of the hidpi display? do you think android fonts are bad?
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>>60655013
Pretty blurry m8
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>>60658742
notice me senpai
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>>60665670
Go to the Control Panel and disable font ""smoothing"".
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>>60643951
You get a Chromebook.
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Arch Linux
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is this decent?

I can't tell, I'm not a fontphile
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>>60670011
Which one is this?
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>>60647691
Windows 10 w/ Chrome. Only then it can look so bad,
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>>60677017
busted
all those hipsters got it wrong
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If I don't have autism for this kind of shit will I ever notice shitty font on Linux? This is the first I've even heard of it
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>>60678095
Only if it's really shitty, like the one you see on ATMs
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guess who's been pirating fonts and fucking with the spacing
Never seen lxappearance lag that hard before
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>>60670011
>>60670906
>>60647367

>macOS secret to good font rendering

Just fucking make the fonts thick and blurry. Just look at the font's ascenders and terminals they're so bad.
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>>60666160
>features I never use because I'm not that autistic
It is a security concern and thanks for pointing that out.
I wont drop the trip my guy, toggle the anonymize option in 4chX and fuck off
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how can i improve my font rendering?
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>>60679907
oops, forgot to add image
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>>60678488
that looks terrible
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>>60679939
yeah, global spacing was a mistake.
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