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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
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3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
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$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Summer Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0JVRcJLea8
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>>60634078
Ebin spam like you did from a few days ago pajeet.
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install SourceMage
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>>60633508
Are you retarded or something? They are literally breaking compatibility. Every other OS in the world uses "python" as Python 2.x and "python3" to... guess what? Python 3.x

There is no reason to change "python3" to "python" besides "I want to be different", it breaks shit and they have to fork every single python script just because of that. I can't see a single reason for why that's a good idea.
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>>60634257
Then why did they de/and push python3 if it was not ment for you to upgrade?
If you're running python2 you're part of the problem and are lazy

Python3 is the latest version,Arch is a rolling release distro.Use the latest version

Its not very difficult to grasp this concept
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Guys, is IceCat going to keep old extensions working? Or is it literally Firefox but with a free(libre) logo?
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>>60634345
Use firefox-esr-privacy
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why doesn't dd log anything to terminal? i use it often but it's always a little concerning to wait when there is no way to monitor the progress at all.
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>>60634363
cannot think of any good reason, besides memes.

You send it a USR1 signal to display the current progress.
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>>60634363
But it does
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null status=progress
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>>60634353
According to a quick google search that's an arch package, and there's no reference to a privacy-oriented esr from mozilla. Am I retarded?
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>>60634392
>download packages and patches from arch aur page
>configure distros build type(deb,rpm,etc)
>install using package manager
Done
Its not from firefox,its a third part set of patches that disable alot of stupid shit in firefox.You can read what each patch does
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How do I replace brackets with sed?
's/[[/[/g'
throws errors. I tried escaping them,
's/\[\[/\[/g'
but that doesn't work either.
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>>60634390
well im dumb. thanks anon
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>>60634418
Oh ok, thanks anon
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>>60634445
The second one does work, though.
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>>60634278
You're retarded, son and clearly don't understand how programming languages work. There are new versions of languages and you define them when you write a program for it. Python 2 and Python 3 are incompatible, which means, when you call python, it expects the python2 language and since Python 3 exists, you call it python3. Linkin python to python3 simply breaks Python 2 programs.

See:
python -c 'print "Hello, world!"'

will simply not work on Arch, since it calls python3 and in Python 3 you have a different print syntax:
python -c 'print("Hello, world!")'

Also modules and libs have new names. You see, you can't just simply "use the latest version"; a programming language is not a program.

PEP also recommends to stick to the old behavior: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/
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>>60634559
Huh, it only throws an error if I run it with -i, I just had to pipe it to a new file.
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What's a functional distribution that'll install under 10gb and friendly for someone new to Linux?
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>>60634664
Almost all of them will install in under 10GB.
Just use Ubuntu, Mint, or some shit.
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>>60634664
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60634664
whatever you do, don't use mint or ubuntu or some shit, they have the botnet
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>>60634664
install gentoo
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>>60634682
>>60634704
Thanks guys
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>>60634664
Use Ubuntu's mini.iso and install one of the "*buntu Minimal desktop"
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
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>>60634345
Yes, is going to keep old extensions working. Use IceCat.
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>>60634664
Install Debian, buddy.
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>>60634664
Lubuntu, no botnet and easy af
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>>60634345
Icecat has lots of security fixes compared to vanilla FF. You could also use FF and tweak the shit out of it (about:config), but using Icecat is just comfy.
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Tried to install atom and got this error message:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of atom:
atom depends on git; however:
Package git is not installed.


After which I tried to install git-core and git-all, but in both cases got the same error message, i.e. can't install this because git isn't already installed.

What do?
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>>60634769
Neat
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>>60634838
Try to
apt-get install -f
.
Also what version of Debian are you running? stable/testing/sid?
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>>60634838
>apt
>problems with deps
kek
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>>60634769
Speaking of, is there an easy way to get IceCat on windows? I've literally never compiled anything on there before so I'm a bit scared. And I still haven't gotten around to a proper VM+GPU passthrough setup so I do want it natively in windows if possible. How painful is it gonna be?
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>helping a friend move
>found a redhat offical 6.2 install disk

No idea what to do with it
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>>60634879
Stable, only finished installing it this evening. Looks like your command installed git, currently unpacking atom. Hopefully it works this time.
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>>60634913
I am not using windows so can't be certain but I guess this is what I would use https://github.com/gdriggs/icecat-win64
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>>60634913
There's no point in using IceCat on Windows.
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>>60634953
Send it back to redhat and get an invitation to redhatcon
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>>60634956
Just a tip for you, using
apt-get install -f
after using dkpg fixes the missing dependencies, so you don't need to track them manually like you tried to do.
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>>60634913
Install gentoo
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>>60634723
>>60635085
Why should i install Gentoo over any other distribution
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>>60635291
You shouldnt
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>>60635296
Why should i not install Gentoo over any other distribution
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I named my wife's son Devuan, and my wife's daughter Linux
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>>60635313
Fuck off
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I'm using manjaro and I'm enjoying how helpful arch wiki is. very nice
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>>60635346
>manjaro
Hey! That's my wife's boyfriend's nephew's name!
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>>60635346
manjarrrrrrro
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Second week or so of Linux and learning C. Vim is great. Slowly getting less clumsy and learning more complex stuff with it. Staying on the keyboard makes things really convenient. Linux master race!
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>>60635305
Compiling is anonying.
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>>60633966
I have three questions:
What benefeits does devuan have over debian? Can I install testing on devuan?
I'm currently using debian on my thinkpad x60. I just installed libreboot and now my computer makes a constant high pitched whinging noise. The libreboot documentation says that libreboot comes with a script called power top to the the whining noise but its not in the folder I downloaded.
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>>60635742
:D
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>>60635882
no systemd
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>>60635742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlR5gYd6um0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2WjJbmmoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TX3kV3TICU
https://github.com/ivito/cookbook/blob/master/VIM/Learn%20Vimscript%20the%20Hard%20Way.pdf
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>>60635907
And by the way, here is are some guides to programming https://pastebin.com/SRZakc07
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>>60635907
Dont fall for the vim meme
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>>60635978
There is but one thing to make this a pseudo IDE enough for near everything.
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>>60635978
I've already fallen for the vim meme.

>>60635907
I'm just getting comfortable with what I know, once I'm good I find something that can be optimized, google it and so far 100% of the time something exists. Like multi-file editing, cut/paste, etc. Thanks though, I may check those out at some point.
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Has anyone messed with the linux tools to stream chinese cartoons to a chromecast? I'm seriously tired of hooking up an hdmi cable to my laptop.
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>>60636188
Trust me on this, check the videos now. Ignore the titles, they are for vim beginners. Watch them in the exact order I gave you and you will learn so much you wouldn't believe.

Of course the last link is for a book on making plugins and you may wonder how much a beginner can get from how plugins are made, but understanding how vim works is exactly what you want.

Give it a chance and at least watch the videos.
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>>60636196
dlna for the most simple streaming
plex for a more featured setup(aswell as transcoding etc)
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>>60635346
I take back what I said. manjaro wiki got me a black screen when I was dealing with nvidia drivers.
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>install Debian
>have to use ethernet because no wifi drivers
>start looking up how to get my drivers
>try to sudo
>Error what the fuck is "sudo"?
>10 minutes later get sudo working
>try to install wifi drivers
>nothing works
>running at 520p on a 1080p screen
>try to change resolution
>nothing works
>try to edit GRUB settings so it defaults to whatever I used last instead of making me select one every time
>nothing changes, find a possible solution
>sudo update-grub
>think I finally got it to work, reboot
>lolno
>find another solution
>sudo update-burg
>Error what the fuck is "update-burg"?
Am I just too retarded for Linux? Should I kill myself?
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>>60636262
>install Debian
found your problem, start with Lubuntu
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>>60636262
GNU is a catastrophe right now
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>>60636262
Try ubuntu or enable the non-free repo so you can get your propietary wifi drivers.
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>>60636279
>>>>>/out/
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>>60636262
dont use debian. its dumb af for desktop use
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>>60636230
I'm easy to convince! Yeah I'll check them out. I'm about to go to bed but your links are saved and I'll be going through them. Thanks!
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>>60636262
All the cuckietary drivers are probably available on the non-free repo.

Did you edit /etc/defaut/grub?
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>>60636236
I don't want to mess with my server, my rpi can't handle it. DNLA is shit. I just see tools on the AUR to stream to the thing, and I'm wondering if anyone has tried them out in our standard usecases.
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>>60636306
>dlna is shit
How exactly its just a streaming server,such as minidlna,you point it to your media directory and thats fucking it.

>has anyone
Noone in the entire internet has tried any of them ever.Why dont you search a bit more(shocking) and find out for your self
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>>60636322
DNLA doesn't do MKV/softsubs, which is more than enough to call it shit. Not to mention that's just something else to connecto to the TV.

also
>friendly
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I have the following set on my non ssd hard drives.Orginally it boosted the performance gain my about 250 MB/s.But now when doing rsync transfers its not breaking 20 MB/s.Am i missing something else or are these values incorrect?

SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sd*", ACTION=="add|change", TEST=="queue/read_ahead_kb", ATTR{queue/read_ahead_kb}="4096"
SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sd*", ACTION=="add|change", TEST=="queue/max_sectors_kb", ATTR{queue/max_sectors_kb}="256"

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>>60636274
>>60636282
>>60636288
Is Debian really bad? The /g/ flowchart told me to use it.

>>60636305
Yes I did. I also checked (but didn't edit) the actual /boot/grub/grub.cfg file which did change but for whatever reason is having no effect.
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>>60636387
>Is Debian really bad?
only in the hands of newbies
>The /g/ flowchart told me to use it.
nothing is perfect
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>>60636387
Don't listen to flowcharts. Only idiots make flowcharts.
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>>60636387
Its not bad but its bad for beginners. Try to get your wifi drivers from the non-free repos and see if it works then.
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>>60636387
>/boot/grub/grub.cfg
update-grub overwrites it.

What did you change in default/grub?
You have to change GRUB_DEFAULT to the number of the option you want to be default.

You didn't just assume the default hadn't changed because the option you wanted was not selected by default right?
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>>60636337
>friendly
When one presents them self as hostile,how is one to react?

>softsubs
So it isnt minidlna that "is shit" its that it dosent meet your demands,quite a big difference here.

Plex supports softsubs and transcoding.

>connect to the tv
No you would run it on your computer and use chromecast to connect to it via your tv.The tv being the client
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>>60636387
maybe install firmware-iwlwifi or aticonfig for your wifi, and to change resolution check /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I prefer Devuan btw
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>>60636713
Why is he like that?
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>>60636713
sup jarjar
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>>60636404
>tfw you work in a field where flowcharts are the absolute law of the land.
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>>60636810
t. paid shill
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Warning: Blog

Just finished migrating my NAS data to a new set of drives. Went from 4 2GB RAID-Z1 to 2 8TB mirror. Took 3 days to copy everything over USB2. I freaked out at first because the FreeNAS GUI said the data was there but I couldn't see anything from a terminal. Everything showed up after a reboot though. Right now the new drives are still in their external cases. (Got em on a sale at BestBuy) Tomorrow I'll see if I can get them out without breaking anything.
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>>60636713
Hello paid debian shill
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>>60634664
I'd simply like to interject for one second. What you're alluding to as Linux, is really, GNU/Linux, or as I have not long ago started calling it, GNU + Linux. Linux is not an operating setup on its own, but actually another free part of a fully operational GNU setup fashioned into something practical by the GNU core libraries, terminal tools and required setup components completing a full OS.

A sizeable amount of computer users use a subspecies of the original setup everyday, but do not know. By a weird chance, the edition of GNU which is widely utilized these days is often called "Linux", and a substantial number of this userbase do not know that it is in actuality the GNU setup, created by GNU developers.

There is in fact a Linux, and this population do have it installed, but it is simply a part of the setup they use. Linux is a core, the part of the setup that gives out the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The core is an essential part of an operating setup, but cannot work on its own; it can only function in the shadow of a whole operating setup. Linux is most commonly utilized in combination with the GNU operating setup, the whole setup is in actuality GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. All of the "Linux" distros are really distros of GNU/Linux.
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>>60636832
cool cool, how much do they pay you?
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>>60636843
>FreeNAS
found your problem, get OpenMediaVault, more machines compatible
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>>60636855
no you
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It just happened again. This time around I tried using 16.10. It also happened in the LTS (16.04.2).
Is there any way to fix this or am I screwed and I should go back to MATE?
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Devuan sounds like a niggers name kek
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>>60636894
Check the image checksum and rewrite it. I don't know why but this is a common problem. I had to rewrite my bootable USB 3 times to fix this.
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>>60636972
Thats definatly not standard,and is a YOU problem not a standard issue.
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Devuan is getting popular, get mad nigger
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>>60636984
It's not.
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>>60636978
Sure thing nog.
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>>60636972
definitely this, seems like the isos have problems download too, weird
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>>60636942
Explain to me, why did you redirect me to that pitiful reply? Honest question.

If elaborating further is needed, here it is:
So far I've tried doing many things to install Lubuntu on this drive I had around. Regular install fails, and manually partitioning the disk then installing also fails.
What am I missing? And why should I ask this in the /sqt/ and not here?
>The post got deleted before I got to reply

>>60636972
Is the grub's utility for disc checking reliable for this purpose or should I just keep trying and trying at it with Rufus? Also, I don't really know if it matters, but it's supposed to be installing in GPT/UEFI mode, not MBR/UEFI mode.
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>>60636996
t. increasingly nervous debian shill
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>>60637010
S-Shut up!
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>>60637010
Why do you think it's gaining popularity?
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>>60637028
randomly add brackets and semi-colons then you'll be set.
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>>60637039
because
1. I use it
2. I've seen others on 4chan using it
3. I've seen others using it and not on 4chan
4. I am not the one you reply
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>>60637039
Mostly free of systemd,thats one of the major factors
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>>60637061
Anecdotal.
>>60637066
That's not what I asked. I want to know how she came to the conclusion that gaining popularity?
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troll detected, don't reply
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>>60637066
>Mostly
Mostly ain't gonna cut it bitch
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>>60637092
Its not longer an RC its at stable release
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>>60637108
You concluded that it's gaining popularity from the fact that it has a stable release?
Elaborate on that please.
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>>60637061
i'm gonna try it out.
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>>60633966
halp

#!bin/bash
if file.doc then antiword file.doc
elif file.docx then docx2txt.sh && leafpad samefilenamebut.txt
elif file.odt then odt2txt file.odt > /tmp/odt2txt && leafpad /tmp/odt2txt
else what do


something with case in $i ?
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How do I find unneeded packages and remove them?
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>>60637331
read your package managers man page and use those switches
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>>60637345
I've done this before and didn't find anything worthwhile, but I took your recommendation and did it again, and found what I was looking for. Thanks!
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>>60636972
It seems that the latest releases of Lubuntu have the corrupt/invalid grub2 package, I redownloaded 16.04.2 LTS and 16.10 and only 16.04.2 worked.

Oh, well, I'm not really missing much, they haven't made the switch to LXqt yet.

Still, thanks for the help. I really should check MD5 checksums more often
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>>60637163
#!/bin/sh

case "$1" in
*.doc)
antiword "$1"
;;
*.docx)
leafpad "$1"
;;
*.odt)
odt2txt "$1" >/tmp/odt2txt
leafpad /tmp/odt2txt
;;
esac
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>>60637784
kissless virgin: the (you)
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>>60637841
Take it back
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please help me choose a distro, I used ubuntu when i was in highschool so i know the basics. I ve been thinking of fedora because of the sexurity it provides. Which distro you guys reccomennd for a noob not so noob, is fedora easy to use?
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>browse random persons blog
>"Linux / UNIX bash shell aliases"
>alias c='clear'
>mfw
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>>60638436
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>>60631038
so I guess that means systemd...
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>>60638448
>not ^L
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>>60637735
thank you

#!/bin/bash
case "$1" in
*.doc)
antiword -f -i 1 "$1" > /tmp/antiword
leafpad /tmp/antiword
;;
*.docx)
docx2txt.sh "$1"
leafpad "$1".txt
;;
*.odt)
odt2txt "$1" --width=-1 --output=/tmp/odt2txt
leafpad /tmp/odt2txt
;;
esac


works perfect but docx2txt is incomplete
antiword and odt2txt print much like cat does
but docx2txt reads from file.odt and writes to file.txt like cp

>example:
docx2txt.sh Documents/file.docx
overwrite Output text file <Documents/file.txt> [y/n] ? y

Text extracted from <Documents/file.docx> is available in <Documents/file.txt>.


what is the syntax to tell leafpad to open "$1".txt ?
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>>60637563
Aren't they switching to lxqt only in 17.10?
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>>60638662
man basename
.

Or maybe read docx2txt.sh and modify it/re-implement it to work the way you want.
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How do I make i3 stop tiling? (for all windows) (temporarily)
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>>60638662
>
#!/bin/bash

why
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>>60638662
replace "$1".txt with "${1%.*}.txt"
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>>60634704
fud spreading ain't friendly
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>>60638837
no fud, son
reality
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>>60638842
if you bring a statement up, then provide source for people to verify. otherwise it's nothing but fud and you should go back to your unfriendly non-gnu/linux threads and never come back
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>>60638858
both come with nonfree software
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>>60638662
if you use this >>60638827
then you need this >>60638811
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After I run "git pull origin master" to update something from source, do I have to run "make" again or can I go straight to "make install"
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>>60638880
You need to run make, since the binary needs to be compiled again first.
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>>60638887
Alright. Thanks for that.
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>>60636894

>get ubuntu net installer
>install lxde
>problem solved
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>>60638893
What distro are you using, btw?
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>>60637010

Says the guy leeching off all the work done by the Debian people. How can someone be so clueless? Seems like suicide might be the only solution for you.
>>
Can we stop suggesting death to others ITT?
This is a friendly thread. ;_;
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I can't run sway on debian, what to do?
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>>60638908
Not him, but I'm using Arch Linux.
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>>60638908
Raspian 8 Lite. It's for FFmpeg; I'm running a discord music bot for my guild on FFXIV. Raspberry Pi 3
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just installed wine. that thing is ugly as hell
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>>60638953
kek
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>>60638988
well it tries to emulate windows
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>>60638827
it werks \o/ thanks alot mane

here's the end result
cat .bin/doc
#!/bin/bash

case "$1" in
*.doc)
antiword -frs -i 1 "$1" > /tmp/antiword
leafpad /tmp/antiword
;;
*.docx)
docx2txt.sh "$1"
leafpad "${1%.*}".txt
;;
*.odt)
odt2txt "$1" --width=-1 --output=/tmp/odt2txt
leafpad /tmp/odt2txt
;;
esac


cat .local/share/applications/doc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Doc Viewer
Comment=Read doc docx and odt files
StartupNotify=false
Terminal=false
Icon=x-office-document
Type=Application
Categories=Office;WordProcessor;
Exec=doc %f
MimeType=application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text;application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-template;application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-web;application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-master;application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-master-template;application/vnd.sun.xml.writer;application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.template;application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.global;application/msword;application/vnd.ms-word;application/x-doc;application/x-hwp;application/rtf;text/rtf;application/vnd.wordperfect;application/wordperfect;application/vnd.lotus-wordpro;application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document;application/vnd.ms-word.document.macroenabled.12;application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.template;application/vnd.ms-word.template.macroenabled.12;application/vnd.ms-works;application/vnd.stardivision.writer-global;application/x-extension-txt;application/x-t602;text/plain;application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-flat-xml;application/x-fictionbook+xml;application/macwriteii;application/x-aportisdoc;application/prs.plucker;application/vnd.palm;application/clarisworks;application/x-sony-bbeb;application/x-abiword;application/x-iwork-pages-sffpages;application/x-mswrite;application/x-starwriter;


now it's usable in your file manager ^^
>>
trying to use Slax to access files on a broken windows install, but the HDD isnt appearing where it usually is (under devices), any clues??
>>
so i have a shortcut key ctrl+alt+w for
xfce4-terminal -e 'bash -c "netctl-auto list;read line"'

how do i close the terminal automatically after say 3 seconds
>>
>>60639234
help read

also dro that "line", read is enough
>>
How to undid this command:
systemctl set-default multi-user.target

I want nodm loading my i3 back.
>>
Aria2 can't download from magnet link, what to do?
>>
Krita is spiking my cpu usage rather high at times (to 30%). I have a fx8350 and about 5 layers when it starts happening. Is it normal or is Krita just poorly programmed?
>>
>>60638943

When someone is persistent with his idiocy despite being told otherwise numerous times, it's only fair to suggest death to them.
People that should consider dying:
>python idiot
>clueless systemd poster
>people that recommend distributions for no reason
>people that use downstream distributions and recommend them
>the guy who keeps mentioning source mage
>the people who think there is a distribution for every tiny use case (e.g.: what's the best distribution to listen to russian pop music and occasional programming in LUA, but it should have a wallpaper that I like by default)
>>
>>60639234

Look into:
the sleep program
your shell's (Bash's) && (and) operator
your shell's built in command for exiting, which usually closes the terminal emulator too
>>
>>60639832

You can't "undo" it. Look into targets and which one you want. I suggest trying graphical.target
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>>60640315
t. reddit
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>>60640334
read has a timeout flag
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Hey /g/, what's the best distribution for listening to russian pop music and occasional programming in LUA? It should also have a wallpaper that I like by default, too.
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>>60640391
Kill yourself, you retarded frogposter.
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>>60640391
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>60640503
>Friendly Thread
>>
how can I install the new Linux 4.12?
>>
>>60640525
>Takes shit in the middle of store
>Gets surprised when people yell at you
>>
Posted this in sqt but got no answer, maybe some here can help?
Can anyone point to me a good guide on doing automated backups with encryption? Ideally i would like something like rsync so my script will only update changed/new data, and encrypt on the fly using a public key. although i think thats kinda impossible since encryption changes so much of the data theres no way to tell whats been changed by the user in already existing files. my other option is an encrypted backup partition, which will work but i dont want the partition mounted when the script isnt running(currently my script mounts and unmounts the drive when it starts/finishes), this means i have to the password/key in/accessible by the script which im not crazy about. Any ideas?
>>
>>60640625
kek
>>
>>60640315
Suggesting death is never fair in friendly thread. Also you're only making it worse; nothing says "please post more" than a reply.
Kill yourself.
>>
>>60640625
Sir, are you saying its ok to ignore cultural differences and get offended by them?
>>
>>60640626
For backups, I use rdiff-backup. It does incremental backups, which is what what you want is called: it saves only the changes made to data, not an entire new copy. It has built-in support for backing up remotely over ssh, so you're covered there too.

Your remaining problem is indeed how to decrypt the backup partition automatically. I've read about this in the past and I think the usual approach is to have a separate server store the key and provide it on demand - some precautions can be taken so it doesn't provide the key to anyone at any time, but as you can imagine it's not that secure. I can't seem to find the right words to search for this topic now.

I think you have to choose the kind of threat you want to protect yourself from. Storing the key locally in an encrypted volume/file that you decrypt manually after boot would protect you in case of HDD seizure, but leave you open against local intrusion. A key server could offer some protection from local intrusion, but not much against physical seizure.
>>
>>60640900
kek
>>
>>60640935
Thanks I understand what you mean. Gives me some ideas. the remote drive is connected to a pi, so i could leverage that pi to host a key file that could be accessed remotely and decrypt my local drive.
>>
>>60640626
>>60641227
Update: I wasn't so far off with my search after all. For unattended mounting of encrypted volumes, look into https://wiki.recompile.se/wiki/Mandos . Still, this is probably overkill. Consider your threat model thoroughly.
>>
>>60641244
Yeah thats a bit more than I would need, I think Ill find a way to retrieve the key from the remote pi once my backup script runs. ill have to mull it over some more and see what i can come up with.
>>
Will using workspaces help me that much in terms of productivity? what benefits most from it?
>>
>>60641366
No. When you have one workspace for code, the other for shitposting, you'll shitpost allday. Stay away from workspaces and DEs; use the tty.
>>
jesus christ, so many memes at one single website:
http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
>>
>>60641316
One more thing: I can't namedrop rdiff-backup without pointing out a shortcoming that has hit me in the past. If it runs out of space while backing up, that backup fails and, unless you can make some room through other means, you can neither complete it nor return it to the previous state. Maybe that's already fixed in some recent version, I don't know. Do consider several options for incremental backups.
>>
>>60641417
tty? are you saying use something like vim or emacs?
>>
@@60641437
this site is so old it calls gimp "the GIMP"
>>
>>60641580
Which is the correct name of the program.
>>
Linux
>>
>>60641437
Maybe you are too young to understand.
>>
>>60641682
90% of that site is complete bullshit tbqh.
>>
>>60641698
Not really.
>>
GNU
>>
Hi guys. I'm a newbie with docker and I was thinking if you guys had some experience with it or has some thought about it.

Something like if it is worth to make it work, or maybe is overkill for one service etc
>>
I just installed gentoo, ama
>>
>>60641580
>The GNU Image Manipulation Program
That's correct, though.
>>
Why is wayland heating my graphics card on 6-8 celcius degrees more then on X11 and when will it end?
>>
>>60642174
what are your favorite subreddits?
>>
>>60642226
Wayland is just a protocol.
Which wayland compositor are you talking about in particular?
>>
>>60639339
>>60640334
>>60640375

Thank you very much anons :)
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Is Arch reliable enough to be used as a work environment?

I am thinking about switching to Arch at work.
>>
>>60642316
no
>>
>>60642203
not when refering to it by acronym
>>
>>60642316
arch is designed to be as up to date as possible, its a rolling alpha imo. Debian or Fedora are the best choices for work
>>
>>60642316
Arch is a meme. Don't use it.
>>
>>60642361
>Fedora
lmao
>>60642316
Yes, but avoid running pacman.
>>
>>60642316
Arch is the best!
>>
>>60642231
>subreddits
ugrh wouldn't you rather want to talk about what init system it uses or what interesting kernel configurations were made?
>>
>>60642316
>>60642347
>>60642361
>>60642366
>>60642376

/g/ is really confusing. Half of it shills for Arch, while the other half shits on it.

Also: I know Debian is rock-stable, but why Fedora? Never used it.
>>
>>60642392
Nah, I'm more interested in your favorite subreddits.
>>
>>60642316
install ubunut
>>
>>60642408
I'm currently running Xubuntu.
>>
>>60642414
Just stick to it or, if bored, go Debian unstable.
>>
>>60642316
whats the difference between arch and gentoo?
>>
>>60642376
>lmao
Top shelf critique, you've convinced me to switch from fedora at the soonest opportunity.

>>60642398
Fedora is a decent compromise between up to date and stable packages. They roll out package updates pretty quickly (obviously not as fast as Arch) but they're almost guaranteed to be stable.
>>
what is the best distro for bulgarian folk dancing?
>>
>>60642440
both are meme distros
gento is the actual meme distro and arch is the meme distro people install who cant install gentoo, but a distro without installer is 1337 enough
>>
>>60642398
Fedora is a shill/testbed distro by Red Hat, the company that works together with the NSA.
>>
>>60642376
its only upstream for a few things.

>>60642398
/g/ is not one person for fucks sake, people use arch and debian for different things. I find fedora works better on a variety of computers. Try it out. Honestly arch has no real world applications because of how annoying it is to set up and how much can go wrong.
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>>60642442
Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre
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>>60642468
red hat shill pls go
>>
>>60642468
>/g/ is not one person for fucks sake

Well, of course. This does not, however, exclude the possibility of having some kind of consensus.

I will check out Fedora.
>>
>>60642460
>the comparny works together with the NSA
so does micrsoft, apple, intel and amd, but they work on security research, not on keeping their systems backdoored, especially since its all open source. You couldnt even backdoor it
>>
>>60642475
Best logo.
>>
>>60642503
use the cinnamon edition imo, has some nice themes and no gnome3. Remember not to judge a distro on DE also, and if you do go with debian dont use the net install
>>
>>60642507
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
>>
>>60642507
>micrsoft, apple
known prism participants
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>>60642468
>how much can go wrong.
personal reflection detected
>>
>>60642530
ignoring the free beer arguement, how is this relevant? Its not backdoored. Fedoras only a non fsf distro because of the same reasons as debian, arch and gentoo.

>>60642475
trisuel is actually alright, best fsf distro if that actually matters to you
>>
>>60642468
I find it interesting that I never see Fedora screenfetches on /g/ but lots of recommendations. Why is that?
>>
>>60642560
fine, install arch on a work computer but dont complain when pacman screws your system up
>>
>>60642587
maybe if you're a programmer
>>
>>60642583
probably because archa nd debian are faster to rice because they ship DE less.

>>60642615
if your a programmer youll just end up using vim most of the time so it wont matter what you use
>>
>>60642583
shills
>>
>>60642529
It's a shame there isn't a netinstall of fedora, although the server image may satisfy that.
>>
>>60642870
literally who uses fedora
>>
>>60642870
it goes against what fedora is meant for though ("just working". But i see how it could be shit for multiple setups. Then youd use server i suppose
>>
How do I go about installing the latest version of Gnome on Debian 9?
>>
>>60642560
eh, arch tends to break a lot, if nothing else because of bugs in the kernel, especially with the intel drivers.

The problem is that fedora has shit software availabiity.
>>
>>60643021
3.24 is the latest version, but it is not yet even in experimental.

Wait a bit till it gets in the exp/unstable distros at least. If it wasn't a full DE in question, I'd recommend compiling it yourself.
You can also try ubuntu GNOME edition 17.04 which includes 3.24
>>
>>60643273
Ah okay, thanks a bunch
>>
i am using urxvt which doesn't support unicode and was thinking about using a more modern terminal emulator. What are you guys using?
>>
How do I stop Atom deleting tabs? For example

void foo ()
{
int bar;
// Indent on this line gets deleted
while (true)
do_something();
}


It's annoying when you go to insert a line of code and have to keep manually re-inserting tabs.
>>
What distro has the best speed and stability compromise? Ubuntu crashed a lot, Fedora freezed constantly and fedora kde spin worked great, but it takes too much to boot.
>>
>>60643404
>i am using urxvt which doesn't support unicode
what do you think the 'u' in the name means?
>>
>>60643497
*froze
debian is the most stable. Net install with some lightweight WM for speed, or jsut go with cinnamon
>>
>>60643470
your problem isn't Atom deleting tabs, it's Atom not indenting new lines automatically. try fixing that instead.
>>
>>60643553
It does indent automatically, but when I go back to an empty line the tabs are gone. I can manually re-insert them, but when I save they're deleted again.
>>
>>60643404
urxvt is literally short for rxvt-unicode
>>
>>60634612
In the very same document:
>python should be used in the shebang line only for scripts that are source compatible with both Python 2 and 3
>>
>>60643404
urxvt
>>
>>60643660
>missing the point
>ignoring recommendations how systems should link python
Wew lad.
>>
How do I change my computer name/host name in arch (antergos)?
>>
>>60643404
termite masterrace
>>
>>60643867
man hostname
>>
>>60643875
meme
>>
>>60643867
su -
echo "install gentoo" > /etc/hostname
>>
>>60643867
>arch (antergos)
Sorry, son. But it's just Antergos, not Arch. Your epeen is the same size like back when you were using Ubuntu.
>>
>>60643912
post your epeen
>>
>>60643912
LOL!
>>
>>60643944
>kek
ftfy
>>
>>60643912
Antergos is my first distro and I don't really care about epeen, I just know it's done the exact same way in both distros since antergos is just arch with an easy install.
>>
>>60643981
it's cool, he's just making fun
>>
what is the best rss reader? do you use a program? browser addon? what do you recommend?
>>
So I went through all that just to get fucked over by steam, great
>>
>>60644046
stop using steam
>>
>>60643909
It says "Permission denied."
>>
>>60643909
>su
what is wrong with you
>>
>>60644078
sudoedit /etc/hostname

or

echo 'meme' | sudo tee /etc/hostname
>>
>>60634363

Wouldn't this do the same thing as dd and show a progress bar?
pv </path/to/iso >/dev/sde
>>
>>60644067
:^)
>>
How to make gnome-terminal window title take the name of the command entered?
>>
#!/bin/bash
case "$1" in
bzip2)

if [ -z `find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.bz2"` ];
then
echo "Didn't find any files"
echo "Are there any bzip2 files?"
elif [ -n `find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.bz2"` ];
then
for i in `find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.bz2"`; do
tar -jvxf $i
done
fi
;;
gzip)
if [ -z $(find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.gz") ];
then
echo "Didn't find any gzip files"

elif [ -n $(find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.gz") ];
then
for i in $(find $PWD -maxdepth 1 -type f -name "*.gz"); do
tar -zvxf $i
done
fi
;;
esac


I would like to be able to have it tar and zip files to, but apparently I'm a mental potato and can't figure out how switching works.
Any ideas?
>>
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>>60644242
Fuck I meant shifting NOT switching.
>>
>>60644266
-iregex '.*zip\|.*bz2\|.*gz'
>>
>>60644242
tar and zip the same file?
also quote your variables: $i -> "$i" or shit will break with spaces
>>
>>60644242
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash/Functions#Extract

Alternativly just use atool.
>>
Do people really get shit done faster with vim and not with a GUI editor?

Do people actually do file operations faster with terminal and not GUI file manager?
>>
>>60644372
>Do people really get shit done faster with vim and not with a GUI editor?
Yes.
>Do people actually do file operations faster with terminal and not GUI file manager?
Depends on the operation but usually yes.
>>
>>60644372
yes
>>
>>60644372
>>60644389
>>60644406
(((no)))
>>
>>60644372
Vim has a bit of a learning curve, but once you know how, you edit in light speed. Run vimtutor to get the basics.

CLI is MUCH more efficient and faster for managing files and other stuff, but for organizing pictures, a graphical file manager is better.
>>
>hear how amazing dd wrt and custom router firmware is
>flash dd-wrt to my cheap router that says supported
>it locks up when i set up a pppoe connection

Disillusioned as fuck.
>>
>>60644046
The year of the linux desktop
>>
>>60644463
Linux is a kernel. Thanks to Ubuntu: Year of the GNOME desktop.
>>
>>60644046
I don't know what cancer magic that is, but literally everyone when seeing powerline wants it, and some weeks later, gets bored of it. Aliens.
>>
>>60644372
If you know EXACTLY what you want to do, CLI is often faster

Like buying a train ticket: you can go through maps, station, trains, discounts etc. on a website/vending machine for up to 20 minutes or just hit the ticket office and say "I'd like one ticket to the 4:30PM IC train to Seatle, full fare ticket, 2nd class, non-smoking, window seat and I pay with card" and done in a minute or even less.
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>>60644242
>not using bsdtar to extract tar, gz, bz2, xz, 7z, rar, zip ...
>>
>>60644622
>not using cat
>>
>>60644470
Why does Canonical hate people? Don't their users deserve thumbnails in their filepickers?
>>
Better thread quality, please.
>>
How do I extract files from an .exe?
>>
>>60644622
LOL!
>>
>>60644740
>.exe
delet
>>
>>60644766
Look, something I need from a patch for a program is only available via an .exe, but I don't want to run it.
>>
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>>60644622
>using bsdtar to extract tar, gz, bz2, xz, 7z, rar, zip ...
>>
How do i change the default GRUB configutation? I installed Void after Ubuntu, and now computer uses Void's GRUB. I want to change it back to Ubuntu. My english is bad so i couldn't google it. Reinstalling GRUB and uptate-grub doesn't seem to work.
>>
Why does every tutorial talk about editing monitor/device shit in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
but mine is located on
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf/d/
, is this normal? the /etc/ one only has 00-keyboard.conf
>>
>>60644622
Frogposter is actually right, bsdtar uses libarchive so it supports every format out of the box, while these shitty scripts still depend on the underlying programs (unzip, unrar, etc.). You just do bsdtar -xf file.rar or any other format and it will extract it.
>>
>>60644837
>My english is bad so i couldn't google it
drop the nig speak.

boot ubuntu and run grub-install or the correct drive
>>
>>60644864
Man, i wish i had a vpn...
>>
new thread when? :3
>>
>>60644857
Sounds to me like that thing under /usr/share is probably a collection of templates for you to copy over to /etc and edit to suit your needs.
>>
Is Void Linux actually usable for daily driver or is it too much of a hassle with programs missing from repository etc?

It sounds pretty good but I just dont want too much compiling.
>>
>>60644740
if the exe contains a standard archive like zip or rar you can use most unpacker programs such as total commander, 7z file manager or winrar to unpack them.

For others there is UniExtractor. Doesn't work on newer proprietary crap.
>>
>>60644857

The files in /usr/share/X11 should be owned by packages. When you edit them, they might get overwritten when you update the package.
Files in /etc/X11 won't be touched by your package and they might even take precedence in some cases (probably not for X11 stuff). Either way, put your user edits in there.
>>
>>60644876
Thanks for your help Anon, i just stared at google for minutes typing "changing default OS configuration" over and over again. I just couldn't think of anything
>>
>>60644938
It's only clame to fame is not-having-systemd.
There are other distributions that not-have-systemd.
Devuan for one is based entirely on debian. You're very unlikely to miss a package that exists in other distributions.

IIRC arch provides a way to use a different init too.
>>
>>60644938

>daily driver
Kill yourself.
>>
Shouldn't urxvt display different colors when I do
pacman -Ss x
? for instance the [installed] in one color, the group in other and the package name in another? everything is being displayed in one color even tho I changed
URxvt.color1
to
URxvt.color15
>>
>>60645046
>from to
fixed
>>
What level of programming/computer knowledge is needed to make use of Linux at a worthwhile level?

I know it varies by distro, but to me the biggest draw is customization. How difficult is it to achieve meaningful levels of customization?
>>
I'm having trouble with display power management in debian on my laptop. When the screen blanks, it constantly switches between black and a slight brighter black colour. It's like a light constantly goes on and off inside the screen. It's not that annoying and obvious but if you stare at the screen you can notice the difference. Any help?
>>
>>60645046
>>60645067
nvm fixed ;)
>>
So whats the most up to date and maintained arch install script for a lazy person like me?
>>
-> >>60645175
>>
>>60644800
cabextract
>>
>>60638436
Debian Testing.
>>
>>60645146
Bad timing, huh?

Maybe your screen is alternating between blanked state (screen turned off) and just backlight turned off (you can still see what's on screen, especially light-coloured windows if you flash some light on the screen). Maybe your screensaver and power management settings are conflicting?

If it's not that, I don't know what to tell you. I had a problem where Linux 3 did not turn on my backlight at boot, and I fixed it by passing the acpi_osi parameter at boot. My default grub command looks like this:

quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux


There are other possible values other than "Linux". If your problem is rather on the hardware support side, maybe you should research this path.
>>
>>60645346
I deleted xscreensaver. I will flash some llight on the screen and then try the kernel parameters. Thanks for the advice.
>>
>>60645346
>>60645411

There's a noticeable difference when i flash light on the screen. It goes from black to a greenish colour but i don't see any windows.
>>
>>60645528
I have no clue what that means then. Sounds spooky.
>>
>>60645573
Thanks anyway!
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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