/pcbg/ - PC Building General

fuck off with you shitty fucking links holy shit
this isn't the real OP

>>60624231
>>60624231
>>60624231

Actual thread, don't stay in here.

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Ryzen notes
>R5 1500X and 1600 (with an aftermarket cooler for OC) are the best value CPUs on the market at the moment, with the possible exception of the Pentium G4560
>Make sure that the RAM you buy is compatible with Ryzen and the mobo. Success reported with the RAM listing in the PCBG pcpartpicker Ryzen builds

Kaby Lake notes
>i5s are defunct with the release of Ryzen
>100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake
>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo", which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)
>Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
>All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory

General commentary
>Win7 and 8.1 cannot be easily installed on the latest AMD or Intel chipsets
>Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z270 or B350/X370 series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock
>The only worthwhile 1080p gfx cards are the GTX 1050, RX 570, 4GB RX 580, 6GB GTX 1060 (GTX 1070 is acceptable but severe overkill)
>G4560 iGPU is fine for LoL, DOTA2, Rocket League, etc

>>60624231
>>60624231
>>60624231

>>60624223
Fuck off, anyone can start the thread. There are no valid criticisms of this OP except retards like you who scream "sh1ll!!!" and "OMG it's different than the old OP111"

>>60624234
This is the real thread. It was posted first

>>60624231
>>60624231
>>60624231

>>60624303
>seagate

absolute trash. how can one company fail so bad

>>60624274
expect it actually provides less information and you keep spreading misinformation like >>60624303 not to mention no one has access to change the builds on the pcpp expect you which is wrong. also they are still fucking shit.

>>60624335
sage it and let it down, and ignore whatever the fuck he says.
>>60624231
>>60624231
>>60624231

>>60624335
>also they are still fucking shit.
You can claim that all you want, but there are no facts to back up your "its shiiiit" comments. Your only complaint is that I list the 1500X instead of the 1600, which I do suggest in the description. Too bad you were born too stupid to click links.

>>60624335
How is that image misinformation?

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Bump for the real thread

OP is a stupid nigger
>remember to sage

op proved to be mentally retarded and too stubborn to improve his builds with better choices.
he knows nothing about current hardware and you shouldn't take his advice.

remember to sage and go to the real thread >>>60624231

So much hate, OP must be the second coming of Jesus

OP trying to force his thread again when it failed a few hours ago
Actual thread:
>>60628128
>>60628128
>>60628128

>>60628147
Why are you so scared?

>>60628147
You're actually the guy trying to force a thread buddy

>>60624205
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>60624205
Picture still looks like two naked Dalaks having sex. ;)

>>60628147
Nigger, who cares?

>>60624303
When was this test done? I've had 1 seagate 2tb barracuda for 6 months and 2 hitachi 2tb ultrastars over that same time frame and both hitachis failed on me. High disk usage on one, and it would just grind and bump when reading/writing so then I bought another to replace that grinding one, and the replacement was DOA. Where the fuck are these legendary hitachis?

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Any small cases out there with swappable HDD where I don't have to open up the computer?

>>60624205
i've never built a pc and im going to do my first build in a month, what should i keep in mind/tips?

>>60631016
Your motherboard manual is the most important tool. Also get a magnetic tip long neck screw driver, and extra sata data cables if you plan to add more hard drives later.

>>60631016
>posting in the wrong /pcbg/
Here. The non-shill one with ACTUAL info.
>>60628128

>>60630356
Sure fucking does, whatever that means. Nice to see you /g/ent

>>60630804
You could probably get a HDD mount for any case with a 5.25" bay. Otherwise, maybe look into small server cases? Sorry don't know much about that query.

>>60631016
Make sure you use mobo standoffs if the case doesn't have them built in. There can be a lot of frustrating details when building for your first time, but just look at it like a puzzle. and enjoy the learning experience.

>>60630439
Just bad luck. Personally I had bad luck with Seagate, which falls in line with the graph. I had the 25% failure rate 1.5TB drives

As all of you can see, this thread is very dead. I's the wrong one and people keep bumping it for some reason.
Here is the right one:
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>>60632826
>>60632826

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>>60632833
>I's the wrong one and people keep bumping it for some reason.

alri lads ive finished it this is the final build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mRsyr7

>>60633012
Go ask advice here
>>60632826
>>60632826
>>60632826
Instead of staying in this dead & in a poor state thread

>>60633012
Nice. Personally I would have gone with a case without that many 5.25" bays, and of course you could drop to a lower wattage PSU--it's going to be hard for you to even hit 50% usage most of the time.

What monitor do you have?

>>60633069
1440p 60hz

>>60633129
If you're at 60Hz, I'd recommend the R5 1500X or 1600(X) to save some cash, but I'm sure you've already been informed about that if you've posted in these generals before.

>>60633068
>>60632833
Desperate for so much attention. Its almost as if you think we dont know what ctrl+f /pcbg/ is

Bumping to annoy attention fag

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>>60624280
>>60624260
>>60624234
>>60624223

Stop samefag spamming, you cunt.

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Rate me build boiz
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wqHvQV

When can I actually get an RX57/80 at a normal price?

>>60633669
Not a great build. You didn't state purpose, but a 1050Ti is weak and your i7 7700K is unnecessary. Not sure what prices are like kangabux but for a 60Hz 2560x1080 monitor, you should get something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Fjyf7P

Lol, other thread thinks VRMs aren't important. Next he'll try and claim chipset doesn't matter either

>>60633695
Pretty sure there are plenty of 4GB 570s at about 170USD off newegg

>>60633741
Not sure if it helps but I'd like to run some AAA games plus content creation on shit like Blender and Unity. Is the i7 still overkill if I want to multitask?

Is i5 3570K at 46C idle too high? It's about 26C ambient in my room so higher than usual.

>>60634038
If you're creating content, you definitely want Ryzen. Probably 1600(X) if not 1700. Check benchmarks

>>60634054
Yes

Quality fucking thread here.

>>60635113
Eh, shithead got their panties in a knot as usual. Check OP times

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I'm looking for a 1440 p monitor at 120 hz for my pc build. Before anyone says anything, I already swapped out the ram for DDR4 3000 mhz ram. I can't find anything that isn't fucking 600 dollars

>>60634054
mine's 38C at same room temp and stock cooler

Money isn't a huge issue. Although I would like to spend as little as possible if I can while still maintaining a computer that can run games on max for a few years. I'm also trying to keep a white color scheme so any help is appreciated.

>>60638466
sorry forgot to add link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LwvwJV

>>60637494
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCwGYr

are you me senpai

i got the dell S2417DG comin in the mail on tues

>>60637494
1440p monitors are expensive. You can save yourself some money to put toward the monitor by dropping to the R5 1600 or 1500X and the GTX 1070. You could also wait a few months for Vega, but I doubt you'll save yourself much more than $50 or so.

Grab an SSD (240-256GB is a good size).

Check this build. You can keep the case, PSU, etc that you already picked out. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Fjyf7P

>>60638476
You could drop the liquid cooler and save a few bucks. You can drop down to the R5 1600 or 1500X without much detriment to framerates. At 1440p, you're mostly going to be GPU limited

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BqT43F

Rate me budget build. How can it be better for cheaper?

>>60640868
You'll have major problems with that build.. for instance, the 7600K won't work in the H110 unless you have a Skylake CPU to install in the socket and flash the mobo BIOS first. Also unlocked / overclockable "K" CPUs are generally paired with a Z series chipset. H or B chipsets are paired with locked CPUs like the G4560 or i5 7500.

i5s aren't a smart purchase after the release of AMD's R5 series. If you really want the 1050Ti, you can fully utilize it with the cheap (Intel) Pentium G4560. If you want to step up a notch in CPU, the best buy is the R5 1500X, which is still cheaper than the 7600K.

You can exchange the 1050Ti for the gfx cards in any of the first three builds in this list.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

Also the monitor is a little small. I'd suggest 23"-25". If you're looking to save a little cash, you can always grab one used. 1080p monitors are all over the used market for cheap

>>60631016
Don't forget the standoffs.

>>60641239
>You can exchange the 1050Ti for the gfx cards in any of the first three builds in this list.
Actually I meant the first four builds.

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Hey /pcbg/. I'm building a new rig, and was hoping to sell my old one was a "Full Mid-Range Gaming PC".
I was hoping that I could atleast get around 700 to lower the costs of my new build.

My Motherboard isn't actually that hot, Speccy is being a dick.

>>60642051
Personally, I wouldn't bother selling the rig. Just grab an SSD and an new gfx card and you're set.

Honestly, you could keep your current build for a little longer. Just turn down settings slightly. You won't be able to tell a difference, and you'll get a huge framerate boost.

should rename the thread "e-peen general"

A build for an office 2016 and heavy browsing type of work?

(more than 8 browser tabs)

What did I fuck up? Planning on pirating Windows 7 Ultimate.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYLrBP

>>60643216
Well, there's no reason to get an older CPU. I guess you want to because of w7 but it's not worth buying a brand new component that's outdated. Just get the 7700k and swallow the MS's cock, also, Noctua heatsinks come with very good paste already.

Disk drives are seriously antiquated technology.

I'd suggest the 7700k and a Z270-A from Asus, but it's your money, anon.

>>60643281
>swallow the MS's cock
lolno

Thanks for the thermal paste though

Is 1500x THAT much better than a 1400? Later one is around 35€ cheaper in my country and I'm not sure it's worth that extra. Though I still hope that the 1500x's price will drop sooner or later.

>>60643293
If you're not getting Kaby Lake then just get a z170 board if it saves you money.

>>60643333
Is the Z170-K good?

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free markets were a mistake

>>60643281
>Disk drives are seriously antiquated technology.

No, they're not. They're $20 and there is NO valid reason not to have one.

4chan shitposting, somewhat casual gaming (probably some casual 3D modelling as well) with huge storage for archiving lewds.
I'm somewhat a tech illiterate.

>>60643127
That's nothing. G4560 CPU, no gfx card, 240GB SSD. You can build it in a small case easily, like miniITX.

>>60643216
Fine, but you better have a nice monitor.

>>60643319
Yes, because you get a better cooler and a better chip

>>60643637
Casual gaming like League can be done on an iGPU. This isn't r/buildapc, so you have to have some idea of what you want to build.

>>60643809
>Fine, but you better have a nice monitor.
I'm planning on a 144Hz 1440P IPS, any recommendations?

>>60643888
>IPS
Save your money and go with TN, all IPS on the market are shit in terms of manufacturing right now.

>>60643888
Check reviews, but I don't think you're going to get a good one for less that $500

I made a post yesterday about my fans not slowing down after playing something intensive, even when I return to idle temps:

>I made my first build yesterday and I've got almost everything working. The main issue I have right now are my fan/s; when I open a game the fan/s will increase their power, however after closing the game the fan/s will remain on full blast until I turn the PC off. I'm saying "fan/s" because I'm not exactly sure which fans are going on full blast. I have 2 Corsair stock fans that came with my Carbide 400C, with an additional Noctua fan on the roof, my Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1070 card fans and my Noctua NH-U14S CPU cooler. I don't think it's the CPU cooler making all that noise since Noctua fans are supposed to be quiet. It's probably the graphics card fans.
From what I understand I need to create a custom fan curve? What software would you guys recommend?

I tried Afterburner but all it did was actually increase the RPM on the fans on idle. I configured the fans in my BIOS with the optimize feature, however that didn't help either. My fans did change their RPM on idle but they don't slow down after an intensive application. Should I try Speed Fan?

>>60644607
meant to quote:
>From what I understand I need to create a custom fan curve? What software would you guys recommend?
too

>>60643809
Not really looking to play mobas or any real taxing ones but more on grand strategy games with the ocassional VNs and indies since i mostly do my gaming on consoles and handhelds.

But it would mostly be used as a shiposting, illustration, and archive for anime/manga/comics/JAV/whatever stuff like /tg/ shit.

>>60645125
>>60645125
>>60645125

Don't stay in this thread lads, it's not the real OP and as you can see since the start everyone's been telling to not stay in here.
You'll receive minimal advice if you stay here

what uses do these 1500w psus have? is it some server thing because even quad gpus dont use that much

Thoughts about the Corsair RM750X 750W?
I want a quite PSU, will it do me good?
I have a i5 4460 and a R9 290 4GB, draws around 110W idling I think.
Will it stay in the passive mode even when having it on for like 15 hours?

>>60645143
>You'll receive minimal advice if you stay here
Ooohhh, very scary, anon. What you meant to say was that you won't have to deal with hivemind retards if you post in here.

>>60645160
Mining operations, dumb buyers. But quad 300W gfx cards can easily hit near the limit.

>>60645195
Unfortunately I can't answer that. I would doubt that 110W draw will stay in passive mode

>>60644607
Open up the case so that you can see whether it's the case fans, CPU fan, or gfx card fans spinning.

>>60644776
Grand strategy can sometimes require more CPU power. You might want a 1500X + 1050Ti depending upon your budget. The extra CPU power will make your illustrating snappier as well

>>60645320
>I would doubt that 110W draw will stay in passive mode
Not at all, or not just for so long? It stands that it should stay on zero RPM in low-medium load. Wouldn't 110W on a 750W PSU be considered low load?

>>60645143
Make a fucking trip so i can block you. You are the most attention seeking summerfag i have ever seen. Man I cant wait for winter so our threads can be at max comfyness again

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The MSI B350M BAZOOKA looks quite decent for that price range, and apart from the size there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference compared to the ordinary ATX AM4 motherboards... Anyone here use it? Where are the gayming LED's located and can their color be changed aswell?

>>60645388
Honestly not too sure. But if it says medium load, then probably passive. You can call their support and they'll be able to tell you for sure

>>60645713
Also does the BIOS have to be updated manually or is it good to use with ryzen right out of the box

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>>60645713
>msi
>bazooka
>gaymen led
lel
>>60645766
Bios should always have to be updated

>>60624250
>>60624250
>Win7 cannot be easily installed on the latest AMD or Intel chipsets

Where did you get this bullshit from? The only difficulties i've read about so far are the USB drivers not being recognized during installation itself (but working fine afterwards), which can easily be circumvented via ps2

>>60645784
>>60645784
Yeah it seemed quite fucking memey that's why i was asking if anyone else was using it in their build

And what's so bad about MSI?

>>60645765
Found it, it's supposed to be passive until 40% load, 300W. So it should be okay for me.

>>60645836
>The only difficulties i've read about so far are the USB drivers not being recognized during installation itself (but working fine afterwards)

It's not even that. Those problems have nothing to do with Ryzen - Microsoft stripped all the drivers out of their win7 install images just to fuck with anyone trying to install it instead of win10.

>>60645877
>>60645877
Source? How are they supposed to retroactively strip drivers out of a locally stored image

>>60645947
They're not stripping anything out of local images they stripped them from the images they offer on their download page.

If you install win7 using the images on microsoft's website you won't get your NIC driver, AND they disable the automatic driver updates function so you have to download shit onto a USB from another computer and do it manually.

t. Just had to reinstall win7

>>60646223
>>60646223
Lel i see

Good thing i have my win7 images from years ago burned on a dvd i guess

Also btw you can circumvent the disabled updates (i think they're disabled on default for all ryzen machines, even on the aforementioned "old" images not from the kikerosoft download site) and re-enable them again, there's a script on github for that

>>60624250

You can't really beat a second hand GTX 970 on price/power/performance @ 1080p though. Just picked one up for £97. A GTX960(4GB) is like 30% slower for only 15-20% less cost, 980 is double the price for as little as 10% more. Cards around the 290/290X level at great price/performance but power hungry.

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>this thread keeps getting cucked

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>>60624303

Yeah those sample sizes aren't suspect as fuck at all mate.

>>60646368
>the pain he feels when he sees that this thread just won't die

>>60646369
Yeah the Toshiba stats could have been left off the chart, but blackblaze obviously reported the data they had

>>60646336
Agreed. IMO the two best used cards are the GTX970 and R9 380X

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>>60646454

Unfortunately we're still getting cucked on the R9 3XX series in the UK. There are a fuckload less AMD cards in 2nd hand circulation and they seem to hold their value better. Good for people buying new, but not so much for tramps like me.

I did a quick check for average prices and scribbled it on a relative performance chart

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Britanon here.

Where to buy computer parts?

Amazon?
Specialist online parts store?
Brick & mortar store?

>>60646779
scan.co.uk

>>60646779

It's always worth shopping around. I usually check out Amazon, Ebuyer, Aria, OCUK & Scan.

>>60646727

>but 2.4GB housefire lol*

>>60646779
pricerunner.co.uk

>>60646779

Overclockers.co.uk
Novatech

>>60631628

Listen to this anon, it's the truth

>>60646877
>>60646904
>>60646939
>>60647024

Cool cheers lads

Now I just gotta decide what to upgrade.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQMGYr

I hope to be ready for Destiny 2, and games like Doom, Witcher 3, GTAV
I'm not sure about the CLC, is corsair the right choice? Will I have problems with it in the future? Should I just go for the hyper 212?, the motherboard (I want bluetooth for my mx master + ds4), is the MSI card ok, I had trouble deciding between the be quiet case and the fractal c

My lga 775 died and im using a memetop right now what are some actual builds who can run 1080p@high everything?

>>60644550
I have no problem with that.

>>60644476
I really want the color accuracy, even if I have to return it a few times for dead pixels first.

>>60646779

tesco.

>>60647299

If you were still holding onto a 775.. my guess at your ideal build for 1080p would be a G4560 and a second hand GTX 970 or 290/290X. You should get 80fps+ on ultra in most recent games with that.

Recycle your PSU and hard drive (presuming that they're not complete trash or dead) and you could get that shit together for like $300-350. Memory can be the biggest money sink of cheap builds, so get 8GB(2 x 4GB) and see how you do.

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any recommendations for a fan controller? Needs to handle 5 fans, and mount in a 5 1/4 bay. If it has LEDs, they have to be able to be turned off.

>>60647224
Yes you can definitely get an air cooler, but the 7700K is overpriced anyway. Nice build if you decide to go with it

>>60647299
1080p Mid Range Build
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>>60646727
Interesting

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Hey /g/
I've never built a computer before, will these parts get me out of trouble? I just want a reliable, reasonably capable PC that can play newer games at decent settings.

Are these parts even compatible?

is there a better air cooler for an fx8350, overclocked than a Noctura NH-D15?

>>60649264
Maybe there is something marginally better, but the NH-D15 is one of the best air coolers on the market, and has been for some time

>>60649197

That processor isn't a good buy. Get one in the $130-$150 range at least.

That case is shit, get something around $90 and a reputable brand, PowerCase? ....

I don't know if that motherboard is even DDR4 RAM capable but I'd wager it isn't.

'Besta' PSU... you don't want to cheap out on your PSU. That looks like some cheap chinese bullshit

>2017
>AMD R7

dude... just no.

>>60649197
Hell no. Check out these builds
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>>60649421
>>60649197

I think that he was intending to do "Dual GPU". There's no other reason to get both an APU and a graphics card.. but I really doubt that the performance is enough to even justify a $100 total cost of GPU+APU these days.

Sorry anon

Can I set up a computer with multiple GPUs on one mobo and have it act as a server with several stations all running their own windows instance?

Could one computer with 2-4 GPU run two gaming computer terminals?

I'm trying to figure out how I can buy a lot of GPUs for mining and then also rent them out as terminals like in a internet cafe. Is this possible??

>>60650495
You'd need a lot of CPU power to run multiple gaming VMs

>>60650523
So at best 2 gaming VMs per mobo with 2 GPUs? Would it be pretty noticeable that the power isn't the best?

My machine that I built in 2010 only has 6gb RAM and I'm finally getting hindered by it. Should I get 12 or 16gb?

>>60650773
>6gb
>to 12gb
explain

>>60650561
Depends on the games you're providing. Obviously LoL or CSGO won't require much CPU power. You could probably split an OC'd 1700 into the host and 3 VMs for CSGO

>>60650826
im asking what is the better choice given prices, 12gb or 16gb

>>60650826

Intel went full triple-channel for a while. (3,6,12, 24)

So i've currently got a H87, i3-4430, R9 270, 8gb of ram, 256ssd, 1tb hdd in my build.

I'd like to make some upgrades and i'm thinking at bare minimum i can get a new GPU, either a rx 570 or 580 - though i am debating if it's worth getting a new CPU, there hasn't been much movement on i5 or i7 prices for haswell though, even on eBay.

>>60650420
All right, you've got a particular model in mind for a Seasonic or Silverstone? I'll be pretty damn happy either way as long as my PC isn't crapping out on me anymore.
>>60650403
How would I disable c-state power?

>>60651105
>triple-channel
never knew things existed.
started building on my own in 2009, then built a new one just recently and never encountered that kind of things.
>>60651028
dunno about old parts. wondering there will be any chance it still be sold in these days. even two years ago i couldn't found any compatible memory for my old h55m-p33

>>60640648
I'm >>60638476 I plan to do video and Photograph editing as well. Idk how heavy over clocking plays into that though.

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I'm >>60649197

>>60649421
>>60649525
>>60649553
How's this? Went through and refined the list, does this look better?

>>60652083
Do you have a separate hard drive? 240gb is going to disappear very quickly.

>>60652154
I already have a laptop that I use for all my work and media stuff, plus a 500GB external. This rig will be pretty much just for gaming

>>60652083

Your choice of motherboard is a little imbalanced for the rest of your components. I'd have a look at the H110 or B250 chipset (roughly half the price).

Other than that and maybe having a large cheap storage drive as secondary, that's not a bad build.

>>60652357

or B150 (seems to be pretty much the same thing as B250. H110 is cheaper but with a slightly slower bus speed. B150/B250 has the same bus speed as H270 and matches your CPU, but not quite as cheap.

I'd personally go for something like https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B150M-PRO-VDH.html

Those 4 DIMM slots will probably come in handy if you want to slip in two more 4GB modules later on.

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Do any specs desperately call out for an upgrade? Casual gamer here

>>60652530

Nope. That 1080p setup is real comfy my guy.

>>60652552

Unless he wants to max out that 144Hz monitor. You could either get a second 970 for cheap, or wait for Vega and see how the price cuts play out. It's not worth buying enthusiast cards atm.

just a reminder that this is the wrong pcbg

>>60652628
reminder nobody cares about your fucking stupid opinion, your attention whoring, or your thread

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>>60652083
Okay so I really wanted to build my own PC from scratch, but I found this refurbished rig for almost $300 cheaper which is much more powerful.

Is it worth sacrificing the satisfaction of building my own computer? Also what are people experience with refurbished computers, are they reliable enough?

>>60653076

The GTX570 is a very old graphics card (nearly 7 years old). My guess is that the CPU is an i7-3770 (5 years old), which is decent, being a 4/8 with strong IPC for its age, but you'd probably end up replacing that graphics card before long.

How is $529 $300 cheaper than your build though? Unless that copy of windows 7 is literally $300.

If you're cool with buying second hand stuff you may as well get a GTX 970 off eBay over a GTX 1050 for the same price.

A GTX970 is almost double the performance of a 1050;

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1050_Ti_KalmX/30.html

>>60653076

New or second hand you're rolling the dice with any hardware really. I've had graphics cards, motherboards and processors that have been rock solid for over a decade, and some that died in months. The only real difference is warranty.

I'm planning on upgrading my FX 8350/GTX 680 come this August/September. For the most part I have my mind set on getting a GTX 1080/Ti (unless big Vega is able to compete at a lower price) but I'm stuck on which CPU to go for. I'm stuck between the 1700 and 7700K:
1700: Good for multipurpose/applications I want to use it for, not just gaming (Streaming, other content creation)
7700k: I want to maxmize FPS at 1080p/1440p but I'm worried about the potential for a faulty 90c chip. Also intel is scummy
I could use my current PC as a streaming PC but I don't want to spend more money on a new case, cooler, and recording hardware

Going to try and pick up a 1440p/165hz monitor so I guess that puts less emphasis on the CPU for pure gaming performance. Anyone here have any experience streaming on the 1700 or 7700k?

My current build is about 1350 what kind of sales should I look for?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTr8qk

redpill me on powerline adapters/homeplugs. Are they a scam ? Do not want to play vidya with wifi anymore

>>60654035
Downgrade the card to a rx580.save you 150 right there

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I was going to pick up the 1070 but Mates have been telling me to wait until mid June when the new AMD card is announced because if it gets good reviews, on release it could drive the price of Nvidia Shit down

Is it worth waiting?

>>60653315
>>60653352
Cheers anons appreciate the advice. I think I will stick with buying brand new, not just for the warranty and reliability but Ive really got my mind set on building my own computer

>>60654495

Its the eternal question that has the same answer every time: if your shit is dying and life is suffering buy now, if not and there is something in the performance bracket you want to get due soon (in the next 2 months) just wait™.

>>60637494
Look at the new AOC Agon or whatever monitors. Unless you are not in the states in which case the new AOC monitors are probably 600 non US dollars.

Hello /g, i have never built a pc and i'm ballin on a budget. Would this be and okay pc for gaming/programming.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjcYCy1151

>>60654624
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjcYCy this is the working link

Are AGP cards still being made?

>>60654601
>implying all Vegas won't get sold out in a day due to miners

>>60624205
I may need to update..


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7why2R

>>60654601
I'm building a PC, brand new from scratch, so I'm not buying a 1070 to replace anything, I'm buying a 1070 as a first graphics card.

>use stock mobo overclock optimizer
>4-4.3ghz -> 4.2-4.5ghz
>still get sudden shut-downs
Fuck I'm going to have to actually learn & do it myself aren't I?

6700k, nhu12s air-cooler, asus mobo

>>60647224
>ASRock mobo

>>60654846
Nothing wrong with ASRock

>>60654983
lol

>>60654846
>criticizing the ASRock mobo
>not criticizing the 7700k

>>60655063
fair enough

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVBbQV

What does /pcbg/ think about my NAS/PLEX server build? Only thing I'm not too sure about is the HDD. I usually prefer WD over Seagate but the price gap is pretty big. Redundancy/MTBF is not a big concern for me.

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I need help /pcbg/
What GPU in the long run would be a better choice - GTX1050 ti with 4GB of vram, or GTX1060 with 3GB?

xeon e3 1231v3, GTX 780 3GB, Gigabyte Z97 ud3h + 16GB DDR3, 360gb ssd
Is 600 usd a good price for this?

>>60655715
1060

>>60655739
No

>>60655739
Not really- unless the alternative is some jewed-up pre-built pos.
Someone trying to get rid of their old mid-tier rig?

Build PC now or wait for i9?

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>>60624205
>/vgcag/ - Video Game Console Assembly General

Is laptop building a thing? If it's not a thing, does it look like it might be a thing in the near future?

>>60655997
>Someone trying to get rid of their old mid-tier rig?

yeah
it also comes with a 24" screen, case and psu, 1,5TB HDD. shure 440s+dac, logitech g105 and some tbone mic.

>>60656104
>it's the ENTIRE rig
Well that's a bit better.
Peripherals can last you a long time.

Probably worth it, even though the guts of the PC are mediocre.

>>60656104
>>60655739
Remember to check if it is working cause a rig that old is out of warranty and if anything breaks, you are SoL.

>>60656157
>>60656205
alright thanks.
I could also go for an I5-6500, MSi B250 PRO-VDH, 16GB DDR4, 250GB M.2 SSD for like 350 and look for a 6gb 1060. I don't really need the peripherals. I just thought hyperthreading might be nice. But I guess if I go with the i5 bundle I could upgrade to an i7 eventually. What do you think?

It's actually GiB, not GB.

What are the differences between Kaby Lake-X and Skylake-X, why aren't they all kaby lake??? I don't get it.

>>60624205
>>60624205

What am I looking at ghetto Coin miners?

>>60656723
we know

>>60656820
Slight revisions. HEDT processors come out after the consumer versions, so they're always on the previous micro arch

>>60656700
i5s are defunct, but 350USD is a decent price for that package though not a steal. I'd rather spend a little extra for the AM4 platform

>>60656012
Depends on what you currently have. If nothing, build now

>>60655739
No

>>60655715
The 4GB RX570 is the best deal in that price range. The 1060 is significantly more powerful than the 1050Ti. The RAM allotments are really fucked up though, aren't they?

>>60655445
Get 2400MHz memory because why not
Also see if you can find any failure data for that particular model of HDD or one of its sister models (check blackblaze, or just google the PN).

>>60654821
Might just have poor silicon

>>60654787
1070 is overkill for a 1080p 60Hz monitor. Either buy a better monitor or drop to 1060/580

>>60654624
>>60654647
Looks pretty good. Check builds in the OP pcpartpicker list

Grab 2400MHz RAM.
Upgrade to an SSD when you can.
You case has 5.25" bays and you don't have any fan controllers or disc drives
If you can find a 570 for $170, it's a much better deal than the 1050Ti. Otherwise look for cheaper 1050Ti with a 6-pin power connector
PSU is a little weak and might limit your upgrade options in the future

>>60654495
I doubt the price will drop by more than $50

>>60654086
As far as I know, they work great

>>60654035
Definitely drop to the 1070 and pick up an SSD

>>60653950
Come back when you're ready to upgrade and ask again

>>60652628
ahem

>>60653076
Fuck no. That's a GTX570, not an RX 570.

Check the builds in the OP and look up benchmarks.

>>60652530
You're good

>>60652083
Drop to a B250 mobo (not H110, can't use G4560 out of the box with it)
Win7 is going to be a bitch to install on new chipsets unless you know what you're doing

>>60651144
I'd grab the 570 or a used 970 and see if you get the performance you want. If need be you can upgrade the CPU after

>>60650773
Just add another 6GB

Hello /pcbg/, I'm in a bit of a conundrum. I need to buy some storage right now and unfortunately it has to be bought locally from limited selections with a limited budget, though I will be able to upgrade very soon. I'm dualbooting Linux and Windows, with Windows used for mostly gaems, some light graphics work and sound sequencing in FL and OpenMPT, and Linux used for general web browsing, though I might begin to use trackers when I get used to Linux. Which would be the better course for me?

>One 250GB 850 EVO/275GB Crucial MX300 partitioned into half or 70:30 + 1TB HDD. In the next few weeks I could get another SSD and wipe the Linux partition on the 850 EVO.
>Two 120GB OCZ Trion 150 + 1TB HDD.
>One 250GB 850 EVO/275 GB MX300 for Windows + 120GB Trion 150 for Linux. Would need to buy a 1TB HDD in the next few weeks.
>Bonus option: one 500 GB 850 EVO/MX300 partitioned. Would need a 1TB HHD and a smaller SSD later for Linux, leaving Windows in charge of the huge drive (which might be overkill).
Sorry for being overly specific, the circumstances currently don't allow me much wiggle. Oh, and is there actually a significant problem with SSDs being partitioned into different file systems (NTFS/ext4) or did I get memed? Partly the reason I wanted different drives for each system was because of that, along with allowing each system as much space as possible.

>>60657788
If you know that you could be happy with a 120GB SSD for Linux, just go with the third option: small SSD for Linux, bigger for Win (games), buy the HDD soon.

Hi there

My computer died completely (power spike due to lightning strike)
My cousin has handed me over his other computer which he doesn't use anywhere because it's a breeding place for virusses as he says.
(It has all kinds of malware, keyloggers and fuck knows what else on it)

Now, I appreciate the favor he did me by handing me over this computer (it's pretty decent, GTX660 and FX8320, 8GB of ram) but I would like to know how I will go about getting this to be a safe and good functioning machine again, as if it were fresh from the factory.

I read about flashing and updating the bios which would take care of potential threats that moved to the bios, a fresh install of Windows (he used a pirated and activated with some shady crack, version of W7. I will use my bought legit Windows 10 version on this machine)

How would I go best to cleanse this machine?
I will be buying an SSD with spare money I have left over to replace the 2 HDD's, but I'm not sure whether or not I should replace any other parts like Motherboard and when not, when do I flash / update the bios?
This is the only PC I have, it would be pretty useless doing it right now with all the virusses on right? Perhaps better when I installed Windows 10? Or would that infect the Windows 10 right away so that I have to install W10, then update / flash bios, and then reinstall W10?

Help would be much appreciated, looking forward to replies

>>60658143
anywhere in the 3rd row of text should be anymore
(anywhere = anymore)

I bought a i7-7700k in march 17.
Is the cpu in 2 years realy obsolete and ryzen will dominate?

>>60658414
It is obsolete NOW, you got kiked.

>>60658452
But in games my cpu is better than a ryzen or not?`

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picked these up today

how did i fare

>>60658475
Fuck AMD

>>60658463
slightly, but it sucks compared to Ryzen at everything else, and you have heat spikes to worry about, or delidding.

>>60658516
what heat pikes? In prime my cpu temp is max 69 Celsius.
I have a alpenföhn olymp cpu cooler

>>60658475
Looks like a really good budget build, you did well.

I don't trust MSI due to some bad experiences in the past with them, but that looks like a nice build.

>>60658489

*tips shtreimel*

>>60658545
well, i have an old gtx 660 from msi. never had an issue.

wanted to go with the ASrock, but there are no am4 boards in my country right now.

>>60657439
>The 4GB RX570 is the best deal in that price range.
Not for me. In my region 3gig 1060 is actually cheaper than 4gig rx570 (because rx570 is new and rx470 is unavailable).

>>60658540
>what heat pikes? In prime my cpu temp is max 69 Celsius.
>69C
those heat spikes...

So i'm moving games to my new computer, can i just copy the whole folder and past it on the new comp?

not a steam game btw (nfsmostwanted2015)
i don't know where else to go but building a pc includes backing up and installing stuff right?

>>60658839
yes, if its media and documents you can simply copy paste them

the rest (programs and games) should be installed.

what's a good motherboard for a ryzen 5 1600?

>>60658143
As long as you format the HDDs, you can keep them. I really don't think you have to worry about any malware in the mobo BIOS, but it wouldn't hurt to update it anyway.

Your fresh windows install plan is sufficient.

>>60658414
You're great. No reason to get rid of the 7700K. Any other answer is meming/trolling

>>60658516
>delidding
Memes

>>60658839
Just copy off all non-OS / application files like movies, music, documents, application installers, etc to an external drive or a storage internal drive. Don't forget to export your browser favorites

>>60659683
Depends on what you mean by good. Just look through the newegg options to see what's available (number and type of USB ports, number of m.2, etc.)

>>60658771
Definitely 3GB 1060, 6GB if you can afford it.

>>60659683
I got an ASUS Prime B350 Plus for my 1800x, I couldn't wait anymore for an ASRock and the Asus was $99 and same day delivery on Amazon Prime.

I've been very happy with it so far, no real issues, it is running my 3200mhz Hynix RAM stable at 2933mhz- I expect the full 3200 with a newer BIOS update.

Only downside so far has been that it only has 2 chassis fan headers, and it's an odd 95% ATX board. The board is short on the side opposite the IO, so it doesn't use all standoffs, it only has 6 mounting points. This hasn't caused any issues, it's just a bit odd that way.

>>60660038
Thanks a lot.

Bought a $150 water cooler lads

Need a new mobo, CPU, RAM.
Suggestions?

>>60660346
Purpose?

>>60660346
always go with ryzen
i deplore my choice to go with skylake for ddr4 and 3 months later ryzen released

>cpu hitting 91C in prime95

how can i fix this without having to buy a new cooler

>>60660539
If the cooler was installed a long time ago, you might need to refresh the thermal paste. Clean out the radiator, make sure the fan is spinning properly. If you OC'd the CPU, reduce voltage/OC. You're probably pushing it too hard. If none of the above, you probably have a cooler that's too weak

>>60660571
i changed the thermal paste a couple days ago when i was cleaning my pc and installing more ram. thing is, my cpu idles in the mid 30s and when i play games, even ones like gta 5 which rape the cpu don't cause it to go above ~60C or 65C at the absolute max. i'm using a 212 evo

>>60660648
I wouldn't worry about it then. Could be that the cooler is seated improperly

So, right now I have 3 mobos to buy for my R7 1700:

Asrock AB350 Pro 4: R$499 (~US$ 152,66)
ASUS B350 PRIME PLUS: R$585,90 (~US$ 179,25)
Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3: R$669,90 (~US$ 204,94)

Which one should I buy if I want overclock to ~3.8 GHz? For more information, I already have a G.Skill 2x8gb 3200 Mhz Trident Z F4-3200C16D-16GTZB.

>>60660539
Are you planning at hammering every thread with ridiculous shit often, Anon? No game or task should ever push your CPU that hard. If the temps are fine in real world use, then don't fret.

I could use some help building a server for Proxmox / potential labs.

VT-d would be the preference but AMD-V could work if the price is too good.

I'd obviously like it to be cheap and so I was going to go with dual CPU Xeon's

Here is what I've got so far
Xeon E5-2670 (x2)
ASRock - EP2C602-4L
16-32GB ECC RAM

I have hard drives and graphics cards that I can throw at it if required so none of that will be required.

Any tips or suggestions?

>>60661682

Threadripper sounds like it would be perfect for you (though we don't know cost yet).

I can buy the ryzen 1600 cheaper for ~269aud (down from 299aud). Or the 1600x for 305aud(down from 345aud)

Which one would be worth? Essentially I could get the 1600x at the price for a 1600


And is a b350 recommend or the x370

Looking to build a PC for around $800 can someone recommend a build?

>>60662011

If you won't/cannot into overclocking thw 1600x makes sense, otherwise 1600 all day. Same applies to ryzen 7 - the only chip worth buying unless you absolutely HAVE to get over 4ghz is the 1700.

>>60662072
For gaming, mainly current gen games at 1080p 60fps

>>60661257
Any would be fine. I'd probably get the one with the best customer support in your country

>>60662011
Either, just keep in mind you'll need a cooler either way. I'd get the 1600

>>60662072
Check OP pcpartpicker link

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I'm aiming for something that can run current gen games, if you can lower the price without significantly hampering the experience please help!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LrvfgL

>>60664055
Pretty much as good as it gets, but bump up the PSU wattage a little
You could also drop to 8GB of RAM with no problem. Just make sure you choose a mobo with two free RAM expansion slots

>>60664107
I'm new to building PCs, what do you mean by bump up the PSU wattage?

And is 8GB of RAM good for most games?

>>60664139
8GB is good for all games. 16GB if you want other stuff open in the background or multiple instances of games.

550W is better because you can use a 300W gfx card if you want to + an OC'd CPU

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Oh shit, I bumped it.

i7-7700 or R5 1600?

Poorfag here, is there any reson (besides power consumption and SATA II) to not go with a single dual westmere Xeonbuild over a new i3/pentium build?
It seems that moar cores is a good thing now, so the lower single thread performance of the Xeon shouldnt be an issue right?

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Is this PC worth $1400?? Keep in mind i'm an ausfag and shits usually more expensive here.

>>60667807
Depends on what you are using your computer for.

>>60667829
>Corsair
>Best power supply
Hahaha.
No. 1400 for all that shit which is probably out of warranty is a heavy price to pay if anything breaks down.

>>60667829
No

>>60667872
Lightish gaming, the newest game i own is Fallout 4 and the most CPU intensive is probably BeamNG. Im planning on a 750 TI or similar cheap used card for graphics.

>>60667948
Where do you live? I have a 290x which I am willing to sell for 50 bucks cause I just upgraded.

Anyway, majority of the games currently still use single thread. In the future, more and more games will be CPU intensive but currently only a few games do and they are pretty "next-gen" like Wildlands.

>>60667829
>Best power supply out there

don't trust any dumb fuck that says something like this. what a faggot. he also unironically bought an nvme drive.

Honestly, the sum of its parts is greater than the price, but buying used is always a gamble.

>>60667474
R5 1600, even 1500X then upgrade to a future, improved 8 core

>>60667829
Eh, barely. Stuff like liquid cooling is expensive and not worth it.

>>60667974
>Anyway, majority of the games currently still use single thread
Definitely not true, although single core performance is still really important.

>>60668037
Majority of the game have high usage on single thread while all the other threads sit at around 15-20%. The only game I know that has heavy CPU multiple thread usage is Wildlands, PUBG and ARMA.

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>>60667974
Northwest Kansas
Honestly, i rarely game and anything i have currently installed is being played on a laptop with an i5-5200u and intel graphics. An X5650/X5660 doesnt have that bad of a single thread score compared to the laptop i5 according to passmark (about 200 lower). However, benchmarks arent always the whole story so i thought i would ask here.
I'm probably going to choose which way i go later, I do have a few amazon gift-bux anyways.

>>60624303
I've had a seagate external since 2009 that still goes.

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This is a build that was recommended from last thread? Any ways to subsidize costs further? Mostly using it for highend gaming, video editing in After Effects, and Photoshop

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wxLPWX

>>60654727
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&N=100007709%20600007850&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1

not new I don't think, but there's stock everywhere and will be for the forseeable future.

>>60668349
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcgbQV
PSU price went up. I went with a black/white theme for you, but those PSU cables might be ugly. Consider the higher price for cable sleeves or EVGA psu. I

>>60668653
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDntYr

VEGA DELAYED AGAIN.

COMPUTEX ANNOUNCEMENT WAS TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE END OF JULY

PLEASE WAIT

>>60669371
Are you fucking kidding me

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cT3y2R

Playing at 1080p/144hz. Is there anything you would change there?

Other than that, I'm comparing the XFX GTR-S and the Sapphire Nitro+. I see the Sapphire being in very high demand, but I hear little of the XFX card. Is it a bad card?

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>>60624205
Rate my chance to fit Scythe fuma 1000 cpu cooler here.
If I would have to guess,0%
There is already no space between ram and graphic[it can be any height tho]

Rx580 pulse is on the way[problems with restock due to miner demand]

I would love to upgrade my ram but it supports only 1sided,and it was pretty impossible to find any. So I will just wait and upgrade to ryzen+ or intel[depending on price]

So I really want to overclock but it is already too hot with stock cooler.

>>60669708
Sapphire is the ASUS in terms of "reputation" for AMD. People will pay extra for a card branded Sapphire. For what its worth, my 290x tri-x was a fucking beast.

>>60669740
I will just add that sapphire has really good prices for europe
Sapphite 8gb 580rx pulse is the cheapest you can get in middle europe [250$] 21% from that is tax.
For example xfx starts at about 290$ here

>>60669740
>>60669787
Ah, I see. Thank you.

Is it easy to overclock DDR4 RAM?

>>60670016
Yes very easy but you need motherboard that supports that.
Generally you can add +300 to any DDR4 ram without stability issues,exceptation are rams already overclocked to around 4000 out of the box.

BUT BUT,to reach high numbers is not always best thing,timing are more important
CL6 2000 ram will beat cl14 3000ram any day.

Can you guys tell me what kind of external HDD with a marginally low failure rate would be good to backup to from an internal? My original Seagate external gave up the ghost years ago

>>60670210
That is simple,just back up on 5 of them
even second-hand will be fine.
In back-up quanitity wins over quality.

So what do you guys think about the newly announced Vega?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rkyKVY

Here in the US. Finally have some extra money from tax refund to build myself a new computer after being stuck with a gaming laptop from 2010. Oh how naïve I was.
Not really interested in most of the AAA games, save for Overwatch. I'm content with 1080p at 60 fps for now. I'd like to be able to do more than just gaming on it, hence why I'm going with the ryzen instead of the pentium.
I thought I'd be able to use my windows key for this computer, but it turns out to be OEM, so I can't.
Wanted to try and keep it around $700, but now it looks like it'll have to be $800.
Any thoughts or recommendations?

>>60670307
If you must use windows, get a 7 key off ebay and try to upgrade it. I think the upgrade is still available for "assistive technology" https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows

Otherwise, just get a 10 OEM key off Kinguin. Also
>Raidmax

>>60670369
What brand would you recommend for the PS?

>>60670461
Seasonic is my go to but people here vouch for EVGA super flower PSUs

>>60670461
Fortron is as good as evga and seasonic.
Just much cheaper,you also get at least 6years warranty.

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Look good guys?

Get 1080ti or wait for Volta?
VEGA looks like shit

>>60670766
vegas so bad that they dont even release benchmarks of specs at the amd livestream

>>60670727
*inspects element*

>>60670808
"no"

>>60670805
The screen was fucking tearing when they demo'd it. So should I wait for Volta or get 1080ti now?

>>60670766
700 dollars for a gpu is never wroth it, Nvidia gpu's don't last more than 3 years at this point (my 780 literally fried itself the other day non-oc'd with barely 2 years of solid use) max you should spend in 400 on a part with a half life like an Nvidia gpu

>>60670831
>The screen was fucking tearing
because it was a projector you fucking retard. No projectors have freesync, which is what causes tearing.

>>60670835
combine that with how fast gpus are becoming obsolete compared to cpus right now it makes sense to get the mid range gpu every few years instead if thats the upgrade path you want

>>60670855
Then enable Vsync you moron. What? 2 vega cards can't support 60 FPS? It is like they wanted it to fail.

>>60669371
no it was that gaming Vega would launch at the end of July

>>60670835
>700 dollars for a gpu is never wroth it
Oh I get it. But I am rich. Not rich rich but like loads of money and nothing to spend on rich so buying something that is 300 bucks more meaning nothing to me.

>>60670869
+2 months for aftermarket Vega then.

>>60670872
so why are you posting in a thread about optimization then? just go ham Bill Gates

>>60670914
I am asking if I should get 1080ti or wait for Volta cause despite being able to spend on flagship GPU, I don't plan to buy 1 new one every year.

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>>60624205
What is better cooler kotetsu or h7?
I could not find dirrect comparison.
Fuma seems too dangerous and would not fit with my ram.

Both h7 and kotetsu fit.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mQvGYr
So this is my build so far, just want an el cheapo gaymur pc as my first build. Mainly playing older games and emulating at 1080p. Should I go with a 250gb ssd for now instead of a hdd? I already have an old 1tb hdd in my current pc.

Also, should I get 2400 ddr4 ram instead of 2133 ddr4?

>>60671187
Get an SSD.
2133 RAM is fine. RAM will probably the be the last bottleneck you hit anyway.
Also stock coolers come with paste pre applied. No need to get additional thermal paste.

>>60671207
thanks didn't know stock coolers came with that, but it does make sense.

>>60671034
Read reviews that have both coolers in them
They're both good
The fan that comes with the Scythe cooler may be a bit better
Fucking google it

>>60657439
I picked the 1070 with the intent to upgrade way down the line but I haven't had the financial freedom to do it yet. This month is probably going to be that time.

I've actually got the monitor over clocked to 75hz refresh and my games all work with it, so they are butter smooth since I can't see above about 63 fps

>Not interested in the fps-human eye argument meme

>>60672589
Oh and that is my -current- system, not one I plan on buying. I have that right now on my desk, got the 2600 when it came out.

>>60672589
>I can't see above about 63 fps
kill yourself dumbass

>>60672597
Troll.exe

Literally don't care, cry about your meme arguments else where.

>>60672627
>being this willfully unintelligent of a human being

k

y

s

dumbass

literally a flat earther

>>60657439
Anyway, as I was saying,
>>60672589


I'm looking at Ryzen possibly, since I do some recording and light video editing. Or should I just stay on the blue team and snag a 7700k? I'm seeing really good stuff coming out of the 1800x

>>60672667
If you are doing gaming only, stay blue team otherwise if you are on a budget or doing other stuff, go for Ryzen.

>>60672667
>>60672641

>>60672641
>Implying the earth is round
:thinking:

>>60672589
>63 fps
How did you land on this number, specifically? What manner of autism? You actually believe you can see 3 fps above 60 but no further?

>>60672677
I'm going to be getting into recording and stuff for my tube channel but processing the video takes forever. I figure I'll get at least 2400 DDR4. I've already got two 480GB SSDs that I'm looking at, so the only other thing I could think of is getting a processor a bit better at the whole processing dealio.

I know a lot of the reviews are showing the 1800x smoking the 7700k in multicore processing but 7700k still has it's advantage in the single core arena. I'm a bit torn at this point and yeah, I'm on a budget for the upgrade. Looking to keep it under $700

>>60672719
ryzen benefits from 3000 mhz RAM and those are like 10 bucks more expensive so get those if you are getting Ryzen.

>>60672736
Interesting.. okay I'll look into that for sure, that's not much more expensive.

Is this listing from the pcpartpicker link the best (read: cheapest) choice for 1080p/144hz:
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0
?

>>60672903
Check on amazon or whatever site you buy your shit from friendo

>>60672943
Well Amazon has it for $393.89, but I was asking for different models that may have a better price/performance ratio, I should have been more clear, sorry.

>>60672959
All brands are within 5% difference out of the box for the same card. OC'd it is literally up to the silicon gods how well your card does. When you pick a brand you are picking for the cooler (how loud the fans are, aesthetics etc) or branding (customer service, warranty).

>>60672975
Okay, thanks for the info.
I currently have an AMD gpu, I heard Nvidia drivers require some sort of login?

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>>60668055
Browse gamegpu and you'll see that nearly every game is multithreaded heavily

>>60668276
Anecdotal.. my 1.5TB drives both died

>>60668349
Make sure that RAM is compatible

>>60669708
You want a B350 mobo. A320 sucks and has no overclocking features

>>60670307
Need B350 mobo
You'll love an SSD
21" monitor is a little small. I'd suggest 23"-24". If you want to save money, just buy one used for $50.

>>60670727
Not at all

>>60670855
>No projectors have freesync, which is what causes tearing.
Not exactly. Exceeding the monitor/projector's refresh rate causes tearing, which isn't helped by freesync at all. If you have freesync enabled (vsync must be off for freesync to be on) on a 60Hz monitor and your framerate exceeds 60FPS, you still get screen tearing.

Don't post unless you know what you're talking about

>>60670977
No one knows yet

>>60671187
Yes to 2400MHz DDR4
Yes to SSD

>>60671207
>2133 RAM is fine. RAM will probably the be the last bottleneck you hit anyway.
Wrong. Faster RAM especially helps lower clocked CPUs

>>60672667
Not sure which post was originally yours

>>60672641
>>60672597
>>60672709
Get the fuck out of my thread retard

>>60670977
>should I wait or buy now?

When Volta comes out, won't you want to wait for the next generation after that?

>>60673403
I can only see 45.2272999 repeating of course FPS, what should I buy?

I don't want to hear any stupid bullshit about how you can see more! I literally don't care!

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I'm planning on updating my PC for better performance while playing.

I currently have a GTX 660 and AMD FX-4300. Let's say I have 200-300€ to upgrade. Which is more critical to upgrade for better performance while gaming? Also I don't want to get a new motherboard so that limits the CPU options to the same socket.

>>60673709
The two best CPUs from the FX line are the 6350 and 8350. I'd buy used on your budget.

You could run anything from a GTX1050 / RX560 to GTX1060 6GB / RX570 with those CPUs. I have an FX 6350 + RX470.

Local pricing will obviously determine what you can buy on your budget, but I'd try for FX 8350 + RX 570 4GB.

>>60673709
>Which is more critical to upgrade for better performance while gaming?
Basically you want your CPU and gfx card to be balanced. In your case, both need an upgrade. Generally the gfx card will become outdated sooner.

Trying to put together a simple media center PC for movies/emulating games.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ngh3QV

>>60674398
Doubt you're going to emulate anything but SNES with the CoreDuo.
Check out the GTX1030

When are the skylake-x benchmarks coming out?

>>60675423
now:
it's overyhyped shit

>>60675485
I haven't seen any hype, poor little shillboy.