/hpg/ - Headphone General

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I'm contemplating on buying the 880s, but I feel like it will snap much faster than my m40s.

Are these durable?

>>60620467
They are damn durable; they won't snap. They're pretty comfy too. Even included a non-detachable cable to swing it around too; that's pretty much the only build issue I have with them.

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>>60620467

What's the new best thing from Sennheiser now? I remember the HD 598 were the best you could get for your money (with that brand) but they have a whole new set of headphones now.

>>60620551
>Someone took the time to create this image
Are you trolling? I'm willing to revoke my original comment if you aren't; had pretty fond memories with my 770s. No build issue other than the cable being broken.

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>>60619695
Would appreciate more opinions.

Looking for ~100$ IEMs with V-Shape signature and decent soundstage, preferrably chink or easy to find with international shipping.

>>60620652
You should probably do more research outside of 4chan.

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>>60621075
I don't know any places that are reliable for earbud information.

>>60620551
>veiled

Is this ironic shitposting?

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Can /g/ recommend me a decent bluetooth headphone.

I mostly listen to podcasts so I dont care about top tier audio quality but I would like decent battery life and sound cancellation.

I have a fat head and wear a 7 5/8 hat size. Just want something for when I run errands and shit

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Thank you for not using a retarded anime girl in the pic, OP.

>>60621854
>decent
>bluetooth

pick one

>>60622179
This !

Wireless headphones in 2017 are fucked

How the fuck is this possible

>EarPods have shite acoustics (how did they stuff it up when there are 10dollar Phillips from 2012 that sound amazing)
>Bluetooth 5.0 is still using lossy that tops out at 128k
>apt-x got it right but is cucked by patents - no iOS or OSS support

We need some anons to make a some sort of free version of AirPlay that can do 24bit and won't suck battery and be as big as a freeking big as a smartphone..... Rreeeeeeeeeee

>>60622248
>caring about iShitters
Just lol. Dumb no headphone jack retards.

>>60622622
some of us need phones

>>60620590
That image is years old and used to shitpost just like the snapped Sennheisers or cherry picked FR plots are. Ignore it and make these threads better.

>>60620652
So are you looking for in ears?

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Is this acceptable channel matching for $200 headphones?

>>60623868
sennheiser haters really are angry poorfags lmao. It's fucking weird.

>>60625154
>snapheiser haters are the poorfags when snapheiserfags consider their trash to be ''endgame''
Wait, maybe you said something different, I couldn't make it out through all that veil and mud

579 or 598?

>>60625203
'no'

>>60625303
598

Are status CB-1 any good?

>>60620551
beyer*snap*

>>60620573
HD600's been their absolute peak for a while now.
The "other peak" for poorfags is HD579 or HD599, nobody is sure which of the two because of the recent model refresh.

>>60623868
That's so cool. Totally found buried in a swamp.

I wonder if they still sound decent.

>>60623837
Looks like a terribly matched pair of some headphone with pretty good FR. It could be an early HD600, from when Sennheiser still had issues with driver matching. They're very careful these days, so you won't get to see (much less hear) that kind of thing anymore.

>>60625303
579 or 599.
HD598 is good, but these new models are both better.

>>60626036
Yes, very comfy, pretty neutral with some boosted bass.

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>>60622739
Yeah, in ears. I think.
If that's the kind that blocks out noise and makes it so others can't hear my music, then yes.

>>60626215
in what way are they better?

and for that matter, in what way are any of the updates better than 595?

>>60626422
They're closer to HD600's FR, and reviewed favorably against the HD598.
But then again, I've only seen the FR plots and a few reviews, as I'm not about to buy them (I've got HD600). I'm sure you can actually go through a lot of them, as you're actually interested.

>>60626471
I already own 595 and other headphones so no real point in 599 for me. I just assumed they all have the same drivers.

and anyway, aren't 599 really close in terms of price to 600?

>>60626515
>I already own 595 and other headphones so no real point in 599 for me.
Sure, if you've already got something 5xx, only HD600 onward counts as a real sennheiser upgrade.
>and anyway, aren't 599 really close in terms of price to 600?
~$200 vs ~$400, no. But both models get sales once in a while.

>>60626559
$249.95 vs $288.00 on amazon right now. and $155.13 for hd598. can't imagine 599 sounds 95$ better.

>>60626603
Try camelcamelcamel for a more realistic view through price history. Also keep in mind HD598 has been discontinued, so they're not going to be available for long.

>>60620762
helppp

>>60626829
>v-shaped (non-professional signature preferred by ignorant riff-raff)
>high-end (i.e.: more than $100)
Pick either, not both.

>>60620762
1more triple driver.
If you go cheaper, Carbo Tenore or Soundmagic e10/e30.
If you want proper chinkshit, Xaomi Hybrids, Rock Zircon, or anything KZ.

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Hie, I want to buy a close headphone under 100 euros (must be available in europe) for an every day use.
I'm currently one the Sony MDR-7506, because of the reputation, and for the price. But the problem is that a lot of comments are saying that this headphone is tiring.
Since I'll use it most of my day, that's a problem for me.
Is that a true statement?
And, maybe, is there another headphone under 100 which is better?
I prefer durability other quality of sound.

>>60627552

When I say i'm currently on it, I mean that's my current choice, to buy.

>>60621169
:(

>>60625154
>Angry poorfags
>Constantly shills HD 600s are literal end games
Lmao.

>>60622664
you dont need to be an icuck though

>>60627807
Earbuds are the lowest of the low. Get any other form factor, really.

>>60627856
so those clip over the ear earbuds are better

>>60627886
Yes, they are. About anything is better than earbuds.

>>60626893
I guess I could go neutral, It's just that I have that on most of my headphones, looking for something slightly more fun.

>>60627937
Anon is confusing iem's for ear buds I think.

>>60627989
>Inb4 grab full-sized headphones instead of IEMs
There's also this dude >>60627533

>>60620551
I experienced a crack on the gimbal of my DT880 PRO, luckily I was able to replace it.

>>60628058
Yeah, I think so too.
IEMs are obviously a world better than earbuds.

>>60627989
If you want to try v-shaped, you should probably do it with EQ or with full-sized headphones.
Remember IEMs go into your ears... a little too much treble there can actually kill your hearing.

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Thinking about trying to upgrade from my Fidelio X1's as they're nearly four years old now and the non-replaceable earpads are getting a little gross. X2's seem pretty obvious and I have no complaints at all about that sound signature, but I can afford to spend a little bit more than these days if there's something worth it.

Anything "similar but better" than the X2's? I don't really have a set budget, but I would prefer not to spend a fortune. Let's say $500 top end with a little bit of give there maybe.

What are the best Sennheiser's i can get for 150?

>>60629002
Headphones rather, not particularly interested in sennheiser.

>>60629002
HD558? HD598?

>>60629139
What about the new ones?

>>60629162
No measurements on the HD579.

>>60629178
Are there any type of sale's coming? Then maybe i could get the 599.

>>60629190
Sennheisers rarely go on sale and they're strict at times with their minimum advertised price, it's why the HD599 is $250 at the moment, maybe in a few years the price will drop steadily.

>>60628818
M1060s

>>60629228
it's actually 191 for me, i'm from europe, i have multiple amazon's that i can buy from.

>>60629219
Damn, someone should make a sennheiser chart, from the best to the worst, it just get's confusing to launch a new product that is worse than the previous one.

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H E L P,
LOOK AT MEE

first time poster on /g/, so I don't know if this has been addressed. I want to use my David Clarke aviation headset for tf2 and the like. Is it possible and is it a good viable option.

>>60629263
Yeah, but it shouldn't matter anyway. Mistook your comment with 559s. I wonder why they didn't just include 519s into their lineup.

>>60629263
What's the price of the HD600?
>>60629289
Should be possible but aren't these headsets designed for voice and not multimedia? Looks expensive too.

>>60629341
286, i wanted those but it's just too much.

>>60629305
They ended up introducing the 579's so, there's still 4 (with the 569).

>>60629341
I've little concern for price, but you make a valid point about what the headset is made for and how it will preform outside of its proposed use

>>60629403
They are great noise isolating headphones though

>>60629238
>M1060s
lol, are those literal Audeze ripoffs? mite b cool

>>60629383
Damn, now that's confusing.

What about noise isolation, does it influence being open or closed? How are the sennheiser's?

>>60626142

>HD600's been their absolute peak for a while now.
>for a while
>Introduced in 1998.

>Budget
<$200
>Location
United States
>Source
Computer, likely to purchase a Origen+.
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Warm or neutral.
>Past headphones
Koss Portapro, Audio Technica M50, and Sennheiser HD 600.

>>60629524
Let me guess: Autism?

>>60629540

ADD.

>>60629536
another pair of hd 600

>>60629582
><$200

>>60629582
No, I am selling my pair of HD 600s and I'm not interesting in having another..

>>60629573
Obsessive-compulsive + autism.
They read "for a while" literally + couldn't resist urge to correct. OMFG, somebody is wrong on the internet (!).

>>60629600
Did they snap?

>>60629624
Ayy

>>60629624
I wouldn't be able to sell them if they did :P

>>60629600
>Selling
>HD600
I'd suggest grabbing that micca+ or whatever Good Source thing first.

>>60629536
monoprice m560

>>60629630
>:P
Kindly fuck off :^)

>>60629671
>using the smiley with the carat nose

>>60629651
Thanks

Are the 599 better than the 598?

>>60629600
>selling the world's best headphone

oh shit nigger what are you doing

Aftermarket power supplies as opposed to wall wart are placebo, right?

>>60629799
>World's best headphone
Sir, stop this shilling right this instant!

>>60629748
Yes.

>>60629827
yes

I know the Audeze LCD-2 absolutely BTFOs my HD650. But it's at $1000.

Is there something that's in between the two?

>>60630024
>I know the Audeze LCD-2 absolutely BTFOs my HD650.
Do you know for certain?

>>60630118
I listened to it myself.

>>60630144
The FR do look bassy AF.

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What is the best close headphone under 100 dollars for daily use?

I know all of you guys, are just a bunch of fucktard putting more than 300 shekels in your headphone, but not everyone is on welfare/have an engineer job/is a jew banker.

>>60630144
You are entitled to your shitty personal opinion but the HD650 is more neutral and therefore better than the LCD-2.

>>60630178
MDR-V6 or MDR-7506 is the best you can do.

>>60630190
We have deposited a 1 month extended warranty for your snapheisers, thank you.

>>60630190
Lmao. Sennheiser shill mad.

>>60630209

Is is better than M40x?

Can someone tell me once and for all if it's really worth going all out and getting 1000 dollar headphones? It seems that a lot of people will say that it's not an upgrade, to go from the sennheiser HD650 to anything in the 1000 dollar range, like the LCD-2, or Oppo PM-1, or Focal Elear, or a previously 1000 dollar headphone, the hifiman HE500. I have also heard that after the 500 dollar range that the differences in sound quality are negligible.

I want to know whether or not it would be a good idea to upgrade to some of these high quality headphones. I was also wondering if it would be a good idea to upgrade my amplifier to something different to run these higher end headphones. What I have right now is the schiit magni 2 and modi. I have been told that I should get a better amplifier, but I seriously question whether or not that's actually necessary.

>>60630190
>So poorfag he has to look at frequency response graphs to decide
>So poorfag he can't buy both of them and compare them using his setup
Lmao.

>>60620551
I own a pair, I sleep with them, I ride my bike with them, I wear them on the subway.

Sounds good to me, absolutely no damage, washed the ear muffs like 4x so far, they are in great shape.

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The Campfire Andromeda. Should I? Yes or no. I was thinking about getting these and the Trinity Phantom Hunter, or one or the other. I want to get both so I can use the less expensive one to bring to school, and not have something like the campfire andromeda with me on college campus or on the bus.

>>60630297
Why them?

>>60626416
Etymotic HF5 or Etymotic MK5. MK5 is cheaper and more neutral. HF5 is darker. Comfort highly subjective.

>>60630277
snapbeyers will defend this: >>60620551

>>60630331
The campfire andromeda has the best reviews of any earphone I know of besides the TOTL Kaiser. Trinity Phantom Hunter is the flagship of Trinity audio, they make extremely high end products at affordable prices. They're a small kickstarter company, and I got their Trinity Atlas for 80 dollars and it's my favorite IEM of all the other IEMs I have. Full metal, water resistant, made for sports wear, very clear and precise sound. I've also seen them compared to other earphones in the 1000 dollar range.

>>60630397
Kek. The only person who'll defend that image is the poor anon who took the time to make it.

>>60630427
>Full metal, water resistant, made for sports wear, very clear and precise sound
I should also add they come with multiple detachable cables, and also multiple replaceable tuning filters.

>>60629442
Ye, they're godlike for the price.

>>60620428
why hd600 is everywhere?
am I bought some meme year ago?
know nothing about headphones they were just comfy and sell guy told me it has a gud sound

>>60630427
>I've also seen them compared to other earphones in the 1000 dollar range.
The Phantom Hunter, I should specify.

>>60630490
Your headphones are nice for the price. OP's pic is for the easily triggered Sennheiser shills, them silly goys.

>>60630024
monoprice m1060, it's build like shit but sounds very close to the LCD-2 at $300

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>>60630251
this image sums up 1000 dollar headphones

price does not correlate to sound quality

>>60630601
>Price does not correlate to sound quality
It certainly help, though.

>>60630239
M40x sounds worse but has a more modern design, if you're willing to sacrifice some sound quality for a better design then get the m40x

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Using them for 14 years, still look great and look new, my fucking bunny chew the cord...

Looking for some new headphones butt all feel like shit and are way to expensive.

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>>60630427
Recent release, huge hype by Head-Fi, r/Headphones and the like. To me they seem like just another set of bassy in-ears with ridiculously bulky housing and price there to sell them as something high end. If you really want exactly the sort of weirdness offered at these price ranges I won't blame you. Do your research well. I advise huge caution trusting reviews. Understanding what exactly do YOU want is the key here. These things don't exactly scale up in quality with price.

>>60630650
Budget? Usage? Sound signature?

>>60630624

Thanks you. What was seducing me in the m40x is the removable cable. But it seems that the mdr-7506 seems to go beyond 10 years of use, so.

thanks.

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Anyone tried these chrome Beyerdynamic DT 880s? Looks like a different appraoch to the regular 880 pro and premiums

>>60630707
Oh shit nigga, that looks comfy.

>>60630251
Preferences, more options. Higher end headphones do not change the basics of drive requirements. Can't really think of a pair of headphones which would be limited by your setup unless you want extreme headroom with volume. Value is something you'll have to figure out yourself.

Is the KZ ZS3 at $8 a good choice? I don't trust the guys over at csg.
I currently use some ancient cx300s on the go, and superlux 681 with filter at home.

>>60630669
>>60630669
>Budget?
50 bottlecaps
>Usage?
VideoGaems & Movies
>Sound signature?
¿Que?

The problem is every headphones feel so cheap and hurt my monkey ears, my Creative HQ 1300 was $39 back in the day and still rape all the $150 new ones

>>60620428
Ordered a sony mdr-7506 on a friend's recommendation, and I'm coming from using typical ~$150 gaming headsets in the past. Did I fuck up?

Anybody have experience with Sennheiser support?

The 1/4-1/8 adapter that came with my HD 598s for the longer cable is crapping out in under a year, but everything else is still good as new. I've put in a ticket just now but do you think they would just send a new one no hassle since it's only an adapter?

>>60630837
>$50
If you live in the US, try taking a look at the SHP9500S'. They're pretty damn comfy and they sound nice for the price; but if your ears are sensitive to bright headphones, then I suggest looking elsewhere. They aren't that bright, but they can still be considered as one nonetheless.

>>60630837
Save some more money. At least $200. Buy some open headphone with a neutral signature.

>>60631039
>At least $200
>Doesn't even know what sound signature he prefers

>>60630666
Measures like garbage, Satan.
>>60630707
The Blacked DT880 is the best option if you're going to get one. Better comfort and better pads that keep their appearance longer.

>>60631071
>>Doesn't even know what sound signature he prefers
Likely neutral. Well researched by Harman.

>>60630707
in all likeness they are exactly the same in terms of sound. there's also Manufaktur edition. and another one just like the chrome one but all black.

buy whichever is cheaper or looks best.

>>60631037
>SHP9500S
>>60631039
>>60631071
I don't know what sound signature is but whatever my creative hq 1300 had is what I like.

>>60631143
>>SHP9500S
Well, if you've tried them and didn't like 'em, than that's alright. Different strokes for different folks, I think that's what they used to say.

>>60630178
I'd say CB-1. Comfier than the Sony and no brutal treble.

>>60630834
I should add that I have some mee m6 from back when that was a meme and some monoprice enhanced niggerbass something as well. Monoprice ones sound ok but are uncomfy city. Not sure about the mee's.

>>60631308
Just plugged in the mee's. Absolute trash. Low end is muddy as fug.

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is this good?

>>60620551
btfo

>>60631397
For the anon asking for advice? Feels bad.

>>60630834
You might want to look at the new ZS5. They're improved upon the ZS3.

Is the Fulla 2 an endgame amp/DAC for someone who doesn't intend to use anything more than DT 880 250 ohm or maybe a pair of HD 600 in the future?

>>60631467
They're a lot more expensive though, right? I risk getting taxed to shit on anything that's more than $12.

I don't hate the cx300s, but the mids are rather weak to say the least. The $8 monoprice ones sound better but I've had them for a long time and never used them cause because the ergonomics are just awful.

looking for decent iems $50 or under.

my old Hippo Vb's died on me and I'm too stupid to recable and don't know how to solder shit.

>>60631180
what I wanted to say is they don't sell the SHP9500S in my shithole

>>60631713
See
>>60627533

>>60631538
Yep, they're perfectly fine at doing that and can connect speakers to it using RCA to 3.5mm.

>>60631713
Carbo Tenore is the best in the sub $50 category I've tried.

>>60631772
Where do you live?

>>60631823
>SHP9500S
poortugal

>>60631538
As long as you're not deaf and want screaming volume, should be all you ever need. Can always just get a Magni later and use the Fulla as Dac.

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Are vintage Philips good?

pic related: EM-6146

I'm pretty pissed off when it comes to headphones and earbuds. Every single pair I've had has within 2 years shit itself by not giving sound to one of the speakers.
Do I need to buy locally with a warranty and trade it in whenever they shit themselves? Or is there a high quality pair under 80 euro that are known for not doing this.
Are removable cables perhaps the answer?

>>60632426
I've had the Sennheiser Hd650 for over 5 years now. They work just fine, and besides the grill covering the outside of the housing being a bit pushed in from me laying in my bed with them, and the padding being a little flattened from prolonged usage, they're really just as good as when I got them. I really don't know why anyone would want other headphones besides the HD650 to be honest. They're the most comfortable, and from what I hear, things don't really scale up past this point. It makes me wonder why a person would spend thousands of dollars on headphones.

>>60620428
What is the HD598 of non-snapheisser headphones?

>>60632506
K702/Q701

>>60631034
Just buy a new one for a few bucks.

>>60630868
Not at all, great option and will last forever.
You may want to get new pads for it in the future though, Auray Sheep Skin pads are a common suggestion due to incresed comfort, isolation and durability.

The fact that so many shills still name the HD 600 “the greatest or most neutral or most sturdy” headphones ever only tells you how far /hpg/ still is from becoming a serious general. Researchers have long recognized that the most neutral headphones of all times are the result of competent equalization, which was not applied the most accurate or popular or best selling headphones of their price bracket, let alone of all price brackets. Reviewers rank the highly controversial HE400S over HD 600 who were highly popular in subreddits around Reddit. Sennheiser shills are still blinded by glorious mud. The HD 600 are more neutral than anything else (not true, by the way), therefore they must be the greatest. Researchers grow up listening to a lot of flat loudspeakers in treated rooms, reviewers grow up listening to a lot of high-end cans. Sennshills are often totally ignorant of other headphones and brands, they barely know the non-Germanic manufacturers. No wonder they think that HD 600 does anything worthy of being saved.

going to study abroad this summer, looking for a standalone music player...tired of using my phone and it dying on me

>>60632613
Holy crap, shut up. Toss that opinion on the mountain of others.

>>60632648
>HD600 shill is also a retarded newfag
go home already
>>>/headfi/

>>60632648
Kek. Take a hike, shlomo.

>>60632613
So what I should I buy then if you're the expert?

>>60632781
Just quit shilling HD 600s as literal endgames and we should be fine.

>>60629524
>>Introduced in 1998.
it's actually been much longer, since the 600 is basically the same as the hd580 which came out in like 1990.

>>60633081
Why has Sennheiser refused to update the 600 series for so long?

>inb4 you can't improve on perfection

>>60633096
I don't think they want to risk their lineup's popularity.

>>60632493
I like my HD600.

>>60633096
if you think about it, they have not made a truly "better" headphone since the early 90s, unless you count the orpheus versions. they tried with the hd800, which does many things very well but still has persistent problems and is not as balanced as the hd600. everything since the 580 has been a refresh of a refresh, all using the same or nearly the same drivers and design. all the truly new models are in the lower price or specialized segments, like bluetooth, other wireless, stage headphones, stuff made for normies, etc. oh and some IEMs that are overpriced. for a purely sit down and listen experience, the 598, 600, and maybe 800 have been the ones you pick from, and like I said those headphones have essentially already existed for 15-20 years.

>>60632613
>or most neutral or most sturdy

I didn't even need to read the rest of your post. Nobody is claiming this. What the actual fuck is your agenda?

>>60633364
Let's play "spot the newfag"
>>60609011
>>60585070
Here are a couple not too long ago.

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>>60633096
They have though.

>>60632824
I mentioned that the 600 and schiit stack was a causal 'end game' a few days ago.

Are you that fucking triggered by that comment? is is there some over the top 600 shill that's ruining the /hpg/. It seriously feels like one guy is letting the hd600 get to him emotionally.

>>60633431
Anything can be "casual" endgame if you like the sound. Seems like a meaningless statement to me.

>>60633420
If newfag means 'Haven't been on /hpg/' for three weeks the so be it. This general and board are a piece of shit.

>>60633454
Seems like you might be the guy I'm talking about. Sort your fucking self out.

>>60633482
First post in the thread, just woke up. Why are you so angry?

>>60633482
Lmao. Take a break.

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>>60632613
the he400s and any other "hd600 killers" are pretty much supported by a niche of people who are impressed by them personally because they're new headphones that surprise them and because they're bored of everything that's already out.

judging on just measurements, the hd600 remains one of the most balanced headphones you can buy, and pretty much the only one at a reasonable price. simply for that reason, it's going to be viewed as the "best" (within reasonable price range) by the most people.

because the only "big" flaw with the hd600 is bass extension down really low, which is not noticeable to most people because the hd600 still sounds very full and does not have that bass light feeling a lot of open headphones have (like the 598). when you look at the competitors, they are all less even in the treble and upper mids, which is more likely to offend people, which is why they are not as widely viewed as the "best". the hd600 response simply sounds closer to most people's ideal of a neutral audiophile sound. there is nothing blatantly offensive about it unless you're outright looking for more coloration.

personally I think a good AKG like the k702 overall sounds just as good as the hd600, better in some ways. but I still admit that since all headphones deviate from neutral, the hd600's deviation is the more palatable overall.

>>60633464
Kek. Then go back to whatever board you came from, newfag.

>>60633497
Don't worry, my man. He's just letting this get him emotionally.

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>>60633519
HE400i is more neutral in the mids and lower treble, HD600 is more neutral in the upper treble. In which area is more neutrality more important to you? Personal preference.

>>60633588
The midrange is what humans are most sensitive to. he400i response hurts to look at there.

>>60633497
>>60633510

I literally just got here.

Do you both honestly think that one guy alone is trying to convince people to buy the hd600?

Are you both that delusional? One of you fags are the guy that makes the new /hpg/ trying to start an argument with the whole snapheaiser thing. You look childish.

>>60633603
>HE400i midrange closer to neutral target than HD600
???

>>60633610
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Told ya, anon.
>>60633554

>>60633610
>Do you both honestly think that one guy alone is trying to convince people to buy the hd600?
Lmao. When did I say that? They're literally shilled everywhere; of course not. Damn shills just need to stop shilling 'em so hard, no matter the preference.

>>60633610
I think the snapheiser thing is funny, because it triggers all the shills/fanboys. I own HD600s. They're great, and I liked them enough to make a custom cable for them. Doesn't mean all the shilling is warranted though. The fact that people get triggered by others talking shit about their headphones only show that their insecure about their purchase and are unable to acknowledge the flaws of their headphone.

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>>60633588
>In which area is more neutrality more important to you? Personal preference.
yes and no. I think it's much more likely that larger and more severe spike in the upper treble is going to be more offensive to your average listener, whereas that upper mids/lower highs "hill" on the hd600 is going to be less offensive since it's in a place that most people perceive as less harsh, it's also smoother, not as spiky.

from my own listening, those measurements look strange too. I would expect the he400i to have significantly more extended bass which I see on other measurements. the hd600 with the hill peaking at 2k doesn't look like what I've heard, it looks more AKG-like. there is also just the lack of general smoothness outside of the bass and lower mids which I see on nearly every planar measurement. most hd600 measurements I see simply have smoother lines and transitions than most other headphones. is that what makes those "sennheiser mids" that are so lush sounding? I don't know.

>>60632824
I don't own them, just a pleb looking to upgrade from SHP and DT770's.

>>60633777
>yes and no. I think it's much more likely that larger and more severe spike in the upper treble is going to be more offensive to your average listener
May be true; however, I think it also adds a sense of clarity. And you're right, with sibilant songs, the HD600 is less painful than the HE400i.

>>60633519
>personally I think a good AKG like the k702 overall sounds just as good as the hd600, better in some ways
There is literally 0 point in comparing k702 to hd600. Completely different sound signatures, try k612 if anything, much closer, but overall worse than hd600. If you mean that it's similar class of headphones, then yeah, I agree. Just a matter of preference, hd600 are more balanced overall, k702 are flashy, boosted highs, wide soundstage. Tiring for some people, and amazing for some.

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>>60633829
>I think it also adds a sense of clarity
I think so too, which is why I like my k702 just as much depending on what I'm listening too or feeling like in the moment. hell I would place my X2 not far behind (after eq obviously).
After eq of both, each "towards" the other (if that makes sense), the AKG, and other headphones that have more pronounced upper mids and treble, do achieve that clarity and "airy highs" better than the hd600, which sounds better in some music. tha AKG is also more punchy in the bass imo, though not outright more bassy. this makes drum hits in say rock sound better to me. the AKG also has a much wider soundstage.

but still, overall balance goes to the hd600, if I had to chose only one for all uses that would be it (for open headphones anyways). and nothing can beat those mids that make some songs and vocals sound so exceptional you wonder what other headphones are missing even when they measure well.

the only member I don't think belongs in the "big 3" is beyerdynamic. less balanced than AKG or sennheiser, and with that persistent treble spike that seems to be in their entire open lineup. they just don't seem to do anything better. good open headphone if you like something more colored, but that's it.

>>60632521
If you can tell me where to buy the exact same one I might, but when I searched earlier they looked uglier and were over $15 which I don't really want to pay considering the one it came with hasn't even been used for 6 months at this point.

>>60634033
>they looked uglier and were over $15
the fuck? dude, they all effectively work the same unless the housing is getting in the way or something. you can get them on ebay or some other site for like $1-5 probably. hell for $15 you could buy an entirely new cable just for the 598 that terminates in 3.5mm from chinks. unless there is a severe problem with one, all cables sound the same.

>>60633998
I had respect for AKG before they started using chink manufacturing for their mid tier cans

>>60633998
If I only had well mastered music, I'd disagree. I think the compensation curve innerfidelity uses is closer to reality (which shows the HD600 having recessed treble). On the other hand, there do exist many songs that are overly bright which are painful on headphones which follow that compensation curve more closely - meaning the HD600 is a good and very safe choice for people who don't know how most of their music is mastered.

>>60634104
How is that a bad thing? k702 and k612 are exceptionally good entry level open headphones which originally used to cost double they do now when they produced them in Austria.
Obviously their headphones feel more flimsy now, are made of cheaper plastic and QC is not as good as it used to be, but on the other hand you can get amazing headphones for $120-150.
Seems like a good trade off for me. If you buy headphones so you can masturbate to how craftfully they were made there are other choices that you can go with. People who want to get the most out of their $ will gladly get chink AKGs.

>>60632613
HE400S is garbage though. Built like shit, has less bass than the HD600 and the mids and highs are not as good.
>>60633519
I remember when the K701 was released ages ago, Tyll thought they were a HD600 killer. Look what they're considered now. Literal garbage weeaboo tincan headphones.
>>60633998
DT880 is better than any AKG garbage.

>>60634325
pricing in europe is fucked, a pair of chink K702 is the same as german DT 880

>>60634348
>literal weaboo tincan
>DT880 is better than any AKG garbage.
Shilling beyerhissSs over AKG *chuckle*.

>>60634348
Are you alright, my dude?

>>60634394
How is it over there? Not too long ago, HD 518s were $200, and Q701s were only slightly cheaper than HD 600s, which were $500. Much better now.

>>60634524
Talking about Canada.

>>60634348
Kill yourself

>>60634348
>DT880 is better than any AKG garbage
Nice comparison, anon. Detailed too, might I add.

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>>60634585
Almost as detailed as his Sennheisers, lol.

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>>60620428
Reminder that DT-860 are best 30ohm cans.

>>60634585
>detail
He must be talking about that hisSss^Wtreble mountai^Wpeak.

>>60634801
That treble rape.

>>60634821
>If it's not mud, it's rape
ok Sennbro, you can go now.

>>60634821
What are you, a pussy? ;)

>>60634915
Mrow? hiSSSSsssSSssss.

>>60634934
Meow ;)

>>60634471
AKG treble is worse than Beyer treble

AKG is literally a no bass tin can.

>>60634947
>literally no bass
This troll, again.

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>>60634947
Lmao.

>>60634977
Kek. I'm over here, shlomo. That dude's not me, you silly goose.

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>>60634977
No. Fucking. Bass.

>>60634995
TrustyFucks showed up!

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>>60635013
I'd never leave my favourite /g/eneral.

>>60634394
Your point? k702 are better headphones than DT880, makes sense.
Audio quality wise I mean. Other than being german made at low price beyer doesn't really have any other good points.

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>>60634394
>>60634325
damn I got my 702 for $100 and change

>>60634122
yeah I would agree, there are some songs in my collection I would never use the 702 or my v6 with for that reason.

>>60635002
>objective measurements
>based on subjective preferences, targets, and measurement method

there is no such thing as an objective headphone measurement

I'm looking to get into some higher-end headphones without going over $200, that will mostly be used for gaming and music listening. I have some HyperX gayman headset right now that isn't bad but isn't anything special and isn't as bassy as I'd like
I think I've narrowed my choices down to either the HD598s or the ATH-M50Xs, but I'm open to other recommendations too. Any suggestions?

>>60635261
K702/K7XX/K612

>>60635261
This
>>60635278
If not, get the 598s.

>>60635261
HD599|579, k702, HD598se.

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>>60635278
>>60635295
>>60635316
>K702
>$201.00

>>60635375
More Buying Choices
$194.50new(27 offers)

>>60635375
Oh darn

>>60635375
$1 is enough for 4 nugs at McDicks. 4 nugs or a K701?

>>60635399
Those nugs are damn tasty...

>>60635383
>>60635385
>>60635399
Alright you fucks, I'll take your words for it

>>60635261
DT770 pro 80ohm. M50x won't sound much better than the Clouds.

>>60635495
Hope you like 'em; better than the M50Xs, at least.

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>>60632613
i'm on to you scaruffi

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Post EQ presets.

HD600

>>60635889
Adding a little bass I can understand, but treble... why?

>>60635973
I like beyerdynamics.

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>search "600"

>70 matches

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>>60635889
668B + K240 Velour

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>>60636016
PortaPros

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>>60636025
SR950

>>60636016
>>60636025
>>60636036
You don't play with your treble at all?

>>60636015
Hmmm...

>>60635889
What is that you are using

>>60636120
equalizer apo + peace gui

>>60636066
Nope doesn't bother me, even on the 668B/SR950. People say it's bright which I can see how they can but I haven't had a problem with it so why fix what works? Before these, I had 681's which were treble monsters compared to the Skullcandy Hesh2's before those. You get used to it and doesn't bother you ever again. Only other headphone that has reached my treble tolerance was my JVC HAFX40 IEM's on a bad seal.
>>60636120
Equalizer APO + Peace GUI

>>60634085
I changed the wording and found some cheap ones, thanks

Is there anywhere I can try out high end headphones in Canada? If I want to go buy a $500 guitar amp, I'd go to a music store and try one out before I buy it, but with high end headphones, it seems like they're only available from online stores.

>>60636361
Find a headphone listening club or something

>>60636571
Does that require me to not be autistic?

>>60636587
It's a crapshoot. You might even fit in better with your autism

>>60636598
Well my specific brand of autism is just not enjoying social interaction, with the exception of shitposting on /g/

>>60636629
Just fake it, my man.

Idol trash going to sleep, but remember: HD600 are awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL8ZG1iB2VA

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Decisions, decisions. The 650s, AKG or TH-X double Ohs the hell if I know.

>>60631034
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/accessories--adapter--jack-plug--gold

>>60636754
How are they?

>>60636754
If it were me, keep the fun cans (K7XX/TH-X00)

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Can /hpg/ rec me a desktop mic? I'm only gonna use it for gaming and shit, I dont plan on recording anything with it. I don't have a ton of desk space and goosenecks are annoying. Was considering pic related as it fits the criteria perfectly, just wondering if you guys had a different rec.

>>60636859
a $4 mic from your local computer store. That's what I use and I've never gotten any complaints.

>>60636859
I've been using a chink lil $8 Desk mic (SH-666) for almost a year now. No one complains except for a shitty video editor for Faze.

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why no one recommend oppos? I love mine.

>>60637018
What the hell? How many headphones do you own?

>>60636754
Why not keep them all?
Seems like they complement each other pretty well.

>>60637064
This.

>>60627840
there's literally no other usable phone on the market, android is 100% garbage and windoiws phone is dead

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>>60637128
Wait a minute, are you trying to fool me again, mr?

>>60637153
spot the android cuck who subjects himself to the slowest of javashit

>>60635495
they're great headphones but I don't know how much bass you're expecting or want. the cloud is not bass heavy per se but it's not ball light either. if you want an open headphone that's properly bassy get an x2, those are $200.

I've had Sennheiser HD650s + a Bravo Ocean amp for about 5 years now and it seems like it's time for an upgrade.

If I upgraded either of these, would the difference actually be significant enough that I'd notice it without doing an a/b test?

>>60637018
They're great, mobile endgame (excluding IEMs). Thing is, not many people have a budget of over $400 and also want a closed back.

>>60637166
Kek. Have fun when Apple eventually drops your phone's life support.

>>60635889
>buy hd600
>make it v-shaped

I mean I get the idea but boosting on each end by about half as much would be better. and I don't know that everything past 5k really needs that much of a slope up.

>>60636135
you've been ear raped too often, you have stockholm syndrome

>>60637190
It's a 5db boost max on each side, and most of the bass boost is in the sub-bass region where the HD600 is lacking. All I did was remove the bass roll-off and make it have ear rape treble.

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>>60637185
Pic extremely related.

>>60637185
i can afford to use a phone that's less than a decade old which seems to be beyond you

>>60636754
I would keep them all, though if I had to cut one it would be the 650 (600 is better) or the k7xx (701, 702, and 712 are better).

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>>60637222
Lmao. You're paying how much to do what with your phone?

>>60637183
Damn right they are great mobile. Amazing for working in an open office.

>>60637251
get a job you dumb poorfag

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>>60637064
More of a question of what to listen to, tonight.
>>60637051
No me if that's what you're thinking. 10 btw
>>60637018
The oppos are on my watch list but I'm wondering if I really want my first planars to also be my first closed backs or if I just want to get the monoliths instead.
>>60622622
>Not having a iPhone
Wew lad

>>60637273
Lmao. Sorry, let me make this clear; You're paying how much to do WHAT with your PHONE?

>>60637294
if you got paid to shitpost you'd probably be able to afford a decent phone

>>60637297
New thread.

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>>60637306
You still haven't answered the question, you silly goy.

>>60637212
should have just bought a beyer pham

>>60637018
they're amazing, but most people don't want to spend that much on closed headphones, and those that do are usually looking for something outright warm sounding or just bassier.

>>60637170
probably not unless you want to change the sig or go closed. how dedicated are you to the 650 sound? most upgrades will sound different, not like a "better 650".

>>60637212
just buy a beyer or a planar damn

>>60637306
the iphone is shit bro, just accept it. you stated one of the main reasons in your first post. stop trying to bail out a sinking ship.

>>60637323
>>60637328
I turn off the treble part on sibilant songs.

I am back to rant about my Philips SHP9500S.
Man, these headphones are a pile of garbage.
I'm not really mad that I spent $60 on it because t it's only $60, but wow. It's so bad, I'm even lazy to put them on. But wait, why would I need to put them on? It sounds literally like I have my laptops speakers on as opposed to wearing actual headphones. Sure maybe it sounds closer, but wow m-muh openness.

>>60636854
>fun
Fun is a buzzword.

>>60637208
>Feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage taking by a victim toward a captor
What? It just doesn't bother me.

>>60637364
>buy no bass headphones
>get no bass

What did you expect?

>>60637364
From your lack of willingness to accept help last time, I don't think you actually own SHP9500s :/

>>60637364
Was listening to mine a bit ago, you must've gotten a broken pair.
They're light on bass, but you can easily eq it in.

>tfw you fall for the bait.

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>>60637400
Oh yeah, I read. I literally laughed at "he doesnt own one because of how the way he types"

Can someone please explain to me why the HD 280 PRO and HD 598 now cost $129 and $249 on the Sennheiser website, respectively? Didn't they used to cost $99 and $199?

>>60637425
TrustyFucks BTFO.

>>60637425
Then why did you willingly but no-bass headphones? Lmao. Retard.

>>60637448
Ayy, I'm still here, famalam.

>>60637454
I was told it had some in a thread last week.
Also mainly for the comfiness. These are really comfy but there's literally no purpose of using them.

>>60637454
At least sell em and buy headphones more your style

>>60637454
He probably bought them just to shit on them, just like that one dude with HD600s a couple threads ago.

>>60637472
Oh fuck, nigga! I may be the TrustyFucks faggot, but not doing research outaide of 4chan? Lmao. Autism.

>>60637496
No, I think I remember him; he was asking for a poorfag headphones at around $50. Feel free to point me out if I'm wrong though.

>>60637525
Still completely on him for not doing any research outside of 4chan, Lmao.

>>60637500
Nice projection.
>>60637525
You're not wrong.

>>60637328
>how dedicated are you to the 650 sound?
I like the warm sound. I don't really care that much. I've listened to HD600s before and I also like those.

How different do other high end headphones sound? Would I really be able to notice if I was just casually listening?

>>60637545
>Completely trusting /hpg/
>Not using any other sources
Kek. All you needed to do was look at its frequency response to know it had no bass. Nigga, you fucked up!

>>60637446
inflation?

>>60637328
>the iphone is shit bro
name a beter phone

protip: you can't. even if you name something with better hardware that isn't explosive garbage like samshit, the hardware is still held back by android being such bloated, slow, unoptimized cancer.

>>60637746
all phones are acceptably fast, even poverty tier $200 androids. The only reason you'd need a faster phone than that is if you play mobile games. You wouldn't lower yourself to that level, would you anon? Would you really sink to that level?

>>60637746
KDE Plasma Mobile is apparently I thing. I'd buy one if I could figure out where to.

>>60637767
>making excuses for slow garbage
the state of androidfags in the current year
>>60637773
>KDE
oh you mean one of the most bloated DE's out there?

>>60637826
>Bloated
Kek. Ifags don't know how to root a phone. You also still haven't answered my question, you nigger.

>>60637921
you can root your phone and try to debloat as much as you want, android needs a complete ground-up rewrite to not be slow garbage.

>>60637826
>bloated
I just rebooted my laptop. Before starting up KDE, 102MiB RAM usage. After starting up KDE 466MiB RAM usage. In the age where having 10 chromium tabs open uses 2 GiB of RAM, who the fuck cares?

I've used many DEs and KDE is by far the most feature complete and polished. All at the incredibly high cost of 360MiB of RAM apparently.

>>60637959
Chrome is not a valid argument because nobody considers its RAM usage to be 'normal'.

KDE has been trash for a long time, Plasma was a step in the right direction but they still can't seem to get it right.

But really, if you're autistic enough to use Linux outside of a server scenario at all, why would you be using a DE in the first place?

>>60637746
ok, so you put up with a shitty phone because you're an IOS dicksucker? enjoy your walled garden then and don't complain, just do what apple tells you and buy what they tell you to buy :)

>>60637826
>slow
nope, try again

>>60638009
I put up with being an 'IOS dicksucker' because apparently Apple are the only company on the planet capable of making a decent smartphone.

Do you put up with a shitty phone just to boycott Apple? The fact that you can use Android at all suggests to me that you are probably still using a PC from the early 2000s and haven't experienced what a modern machine is capable of yet.

>>60637975
>Chrome is not a valid argument because nobody considers its RAM usage to be 'normal'
>calling chromium 'chrome'
It's the browser all the normies use, so I'm sure they consider it normal at this point.

>KDE has been trash for a long time, Plasma was a step in the right direction but they still can't seem to get it right.
I never used KDE before Plasma, so I wouldn't know about that era. I was using XFCE before. What is wrong with Plasma? I find it better than XFCE in most ways.

>But really, if you're autistic enough to use Linux outside of a server scenario at all, why would you be using a DE in the first place
>complaining about KDE being bloated
>using bloated windows or OSX
I could make all the autistic arguments about freedom and security, but I was working with some people for a project as part of my engineering degree. For over an hour, one of the guys sat there watching windows update.

>>60638039
>arguments about freedom and security
Having a connection to the internet strips you of these regardless.

>>60638056
I'm not sure how exactly plugging an rj45 cable into my computer suddenly makes the software its running no longer free-licensed.

I also called them autistic arguments because all of my systems are running Intel AMT and are using the non-free version of the Linux kernel because I just want a computer that works for what I do.

>>60638110
>I'm not sure how exactly plugging an rj45 cable into my computer suddenly makes the software its running no longer free-licensed.
The moment you open a connection to the internet your security goes out the window.
>free-licensed.
I hope you aren't running anything GPLv3 then.

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>>60638126
>I hope you aren't running anything GPLv3 then
good point

>>60637169
>if you want an open headphone that's properly bassy get an x2,
Colored AF.

>>60637446
>280 Pro
Avoid, terrible. Look at 380 Pro.
>HD598
Replaced by HD599/579, which are much better. $200 is insane expensive for them; look at amazon proce history for it and HD598se.

literally no bass!