/wt/ watch thread

Is it true rolexes don't tick.
Like even if you press your ear against it?

reminder that /wt/ is shit on weekends, don't bother

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>>60620441
You can hear them if you put your ear up to it.

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DISCONTINUED

>>60620670
And nothing of value was lost.
Strange though, as it's only like 2 years old.

>buying a watch from a pen maker cum tryhard junk leather goods maker that's german but everyone thinks is swiss but is not, but is now basically swiss and pretends to still make shit in germany but really it's made in romania and chinitaly because costs and richemont tricks lol

Yeah, no.
Their pens aren't even that good. Just marketed prolifically, and their other accouterments (leather) may have been good at least until a decade ago. Now they're just lacking in quality. The usual cost-cutting tricks you'd expect over time from a company slaved to a larger mass conglomerate.

They do go to some creative lengths to disguise the cheapness of their bags and shit though, now that's clever, but it's still doesn't make them good.

>>60620441
When people say they don't tick, they mean that the seconds hand doesn't move in 1 second increments, but is smoother. That's not specific to Rolex watches, but to all mechanicals.

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Got my Seiko Turtle (SRP775) in this Friday. I love it, its my first actually nice mechanical. Does it look too large on my 7" wrist?

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>>60622165
Wow, someone on /wt/ with a worse camera than mine.

Looks good with the Zulu, wear it in good health :^)

>>60622165
Looks fine, but that retarded strap doesn't.

Anyway, I'll never understand the appeal of cushion cases.

>>60622450
nice tissot

What are the chances of getting a reasonably regulated SNK809 Seiko 5 that I bought from skywatches? How much do you think a watch specialist would charge for regulating the movement? First auto by the way. Thanks for the rec.

Zulu or NATO strap for an everyday wear field watch? I'm leaning towards NATO as Zulu adds a bit of bulk under the wrist which would be annoying when typing.

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What do you guys think about this Orient?

>>60623009
looks like a big watch. the hands are too short, the placement of the day and date show that the movement is a lot smaller than the case.

>>60623022
OK thanks.
The diameter is 42mm, which doesn't seem to be too big.
The model is Fev0u003b and I can get it new for $95. Just wondering if it's a good choice for a first Orient.

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If you think about it the Spring Drive and the Elnix are the polar opposites of each other. The SD is a mainspring driven quartz while the Elnix is a battery driven mechanical.

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>>60620324

>>60622450
Nightmare fuel the watch...

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Are Grand Quartz a meme or are they genuinely good?

I've fallen in love with this one, it looks fantastic but then again.. i could go for a King Seiko Automatic too.

>King Seiko Hi Beat or Grand Quartz Twin, what would /wt/ do?

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Pls rate.

>>60624131
>Are Grand Quartz a meme or are they genuinely good?

Why not both?

>>60624247
Unfortuneately I can only afford one of them and they both come at a good price. Both are 70-80's watches branded "vintage".

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Can anyone identify this watch?

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Did i just buy a shitter thats going to make me look like a strange fella?

Addicted to 3rd world shitters tbqh

What is a good watch for molesting children?

something that will attract them and be comfy to wear when touching them?

>>60624406
it's a modded seiko skx007

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>>60624241
Good watch, very accurate, mine only lost 7 seconds in the 6 months between adjusting for BST.

The strap is a bit stiff though so I swapped it for a Watch Gecko vintage strap, it also wears quite large as it's 40mm I think & 99% dial.

>>60624282
No he means why can't they be both good and a meme. They are a meme for a reason, because they are good.

>>60624407
But that's a 2nd world shitter.

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>>60624406
It's a Carl F Bucherer Manero AutoDate. I got that info from a 30 second Google search for 'watches in John Wick 2', dickhead.

>>60624406
Carl F. Bucherer Manero

http://www.carl-f-bucherer.com/en/watches/manero-autodate-00-10908-08-33-01

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Is this OK should I buy this? it's $225

>>60624480
Ah sorry. Yeah when you/he put it that way. Hmm.. shit that makes it even harder for me to chose. When I said meme i thought "install gentoo lulz".

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>>60624550
how do you put the gears in it

>>60624588
You have to buy a gear pusher

>>60624550
absolutely not.

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>tfw want to buy an alpinist, but can't justify spending the money on something I wouldn't wear to work, and would only really wear like once a month maybe
It's just looks so fucking nice

>>60624756
What's your job? Unless your in the trades you should be able to wear it.

>>60624791
He works at a Swiss watch company.

>>60624813
lel

>>60624791
I'm a physicist. I work at a medical device manufacturing facility.
I wouldn't wear it there because 1. My boss wears a Gshock, and nobody really wears flashy stuff, and I don't really like to stick out too much, and 2. I don't want to risk it getting contaminated.
Normally I wear either my F-91W, gshock GW-M5610, or amphibia

Do classy digital watches exist?

>>60624886
Your first point is bad, but the second one makes sense.

>>60624886
Reason 1 - who cares. if they'll aren't into watches they won't even notice.

Reason 2 - valid excuse.

>>60624420
casio

>>60624550
why the fuck is it two hundred twenty five dollars without a movement

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HR-HERITAGE-BLACK-BAY-WATCH-CASE-KIT-SET-Red-insert-ETA-2824-2-MOVEMENT-/222516637966?hash=item33cf06710e

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This watch isn't practical to wear everyday. The dial isn't legible and the lume no longer works.
What digital watch should I get for an everyday watch? G Shock maybe

>>60625126
$299

someone will buy it too

>>60622889
>What are the chances of getting a reasonably regulated SNK809 Seiko 5
It's almost always within spec, i.e. the quoted +- 25s/day or thereabouts.

What you probably want though is to achieve the 5s/day or less that you often see quoted.

Well, you can't. The issue is consistency. If you watch runs at +13s/d in the morning, -7s/d in the evening, +10s/d next morning etc., there's nothing to regulate.

To be able to regulate a movement, it has to be at a relatively consistent daily rate, be it +10s/d or 40s/d. Then you just turn a lever to offset the (consistent) error and you're done. a watch that runs consistently at +40s/d can be regulated to much greater accuracy than a watch that runs +7s/d one day and -12s/d the next.

The 7s26 movement is mass produced and robot assembled, and inherently designed for robustness and low cost, not consistency.

If you are lucky and get a consistent movement, a watchmaker can regulate it to +-10s/d or less in 5 minutes on the timegrapher.

Hey Ontario seiko man one more question about the Seiko Brightz what is the bracelet like? Or anyone who actually owns the skx033 what is the bracelet like on thay? Specifically the things which hold the links together

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>>60624813

>>60625208
Great info. So is there something I should do when I'm not wearing the watch (eg sleep)? I read somewhere about putting it dial down on a desk to help not lose stored energy.

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>>60625143

>>60625252
I'm not him but I have a SARK005 which has a very similar bracelet to the SDGM. It's quite nice, made out of a lot of pieces and well finished. No microadjust, just two half links which in theory should provide sufficient adjustment unless like me you needed every single link for the thing to fit. Pin and collar, just like I assume the SARB033 you're asking about.

>wake up
>still dont own a no date sub
fuckiinngnNG FUCKKK

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Best watch of all time

>>60626106
If by all time you mean the time you're too fucking poor to buy something that isn't shit then yes

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>>60626106
Odd way of saying pic related.

>>60625126
>why the fuck is it two hundred twenty five dollars without a movement

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HR-HERITAGE-BLACK-BAY-WATCH-CASE-KIT-SET-Red-insert-ETA-2824-2-MOVEMENT-/222516637966?hash=item33cf06710e


for a fake case wtf

>>60625730
The daily rate in a watch changes with regards to the position it's in. So, for instance, it might be gaining +8s/d when resting face up, but lose -4s/d, when resting on the side, crown down.

So if you know your watch is gaining time, when you take it off (for the night, or whatever), you let it rest in a position that it's known to lose time, so the errors kind of cancel out roughly.

Also, many watches perform better on the wrist, exactly because these small errors cancel out.

Having it on your wrist yields another advanatge too, because it keeps fully wound, and fully wound watches perform better than when they're towards the ened of their power reserve.

So, my only advice is, just keep it on your wrist and enjoy your watch.

>>60625126
Why the fuck is a Tudor worth somewhere around $5,000? $299 seems reasonable price for materials/labor if it is made to the same quality. I imagine without their branding, an equivalent movement to a real Tudor Black Bay would be around $1-1.5k just materials and labor.

>>60626896
How do you know the case is of similar quality to a real tudor?

>>60626896
>an equivalent movement to a real Tudor Black Bay would be around $1-1.5k just materials and labor.
>material and labor
mate a rolex movement is ~250 in "materials an labour"

Tudor is just a cheaper Rolex

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>>60622188
Thanks man! I've got a tan NATO comin' in soon enough, saw a pic and it looked like a great combo.
>>60622215
I fitted the bracelet to my hand and it felt really nice, but I want to dress the watch down for casual use, as much as I love watches, I don't like the flashiness, I like to be under the radar as much as possible. Also
>muh NATO security

>>60623432
I've heard that the spring drive is very accurate, what of the elnix (compared to another traditional mechanical in it's price range)?

>>60626896
>an equivalent movement to a real Tudor Black Bay would be around $1-1.5k just materials and labor.
I see you're not very well versed in mountain Jewry

>>60624977
Seiko Spring Drive

>>60625749
Yeah, I'm pretty settled on this model at this point. Though I don't know whether to pay a little extra and get the blacked out version on a metal strap http://www.shoppinginjapan.net/gw-m5610bc-1jf

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>>60627166

>>60627196
>spending this much on a casio
Doesn't that defeat the purpose? Why not get an f91w for like $5 and put the rest towards purchasing a cool "beater divers" or some vintage watches?

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>>60627229
Idk I just found all the japanese models and there's so many choices. Can't decide which one out of these.

>>60627539
They are all pretty gay, the middle one is the least ugly.

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I never post my 035. So here you go, fags

>>60626347
The Alpinist has some of the ugliest, cheapest looking applied indices and numerals I have ever seen. I honestly don't know why everyone here faps over them.

>>60627166
You're retarded

>>60624977
Zeitwerk

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I've had one of these for a while, did I fuck up?

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How do I get this back in

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>>60628239
just coil it back up bro

>>60628239
fug

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>>60628239

Any /wt/ ever tempted by the Timezone watchschool courses?

>>60628648
Yes.

>>60627539
They can't be more than $10 each. Get them all.

>>60628297
im trying its cutting up my fingers

>>60628838
use gloves and pliers

>>60626896
Because it's not meant for complete fucking know nothing plebs like you. Go buy your Chinkshit garbage "affordable luxury" shitters and fuck off from /wt/.

>>60629030
>Because it's not meant for complete fucking know nothing plebs like you. Go buy your Chinkshit garbage "affordable luxury" shitters and fuck off from /wt/.
what's not meant for plebs? Tudors or fakes on ebay?

why so mad

>>60628150
if you like it that's great
it's not a very good watch, but you already know that.

Best watch for $200?

don't fail me /wt/

>>60629337
Orient Ray II

>>60629426
one vote for Orient Ray II

any others?

>>60629337
why do you people act as if this isn't a subjective matter

>>60629542
It is you are right

but what is a really good watch (pref diver style) for $200?

>>60628794
Do you actually follow through?
Was it worth it for you?

>>60629590
if you're looking for a diver then I also say the Ray II, or the Mako II

>>60629674
Yes.

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new skx

>>60629714
What does the logo say there and why?

>>60629729
precista dial mod

>>60627711
That watch looks really great with that strap.

>>60629712
What level did you go to?

>>60630199
1

>samsung gear s3
>49x46mm, 22mm strap
reasonably-sized smartwatches when

Recommend something for a graduation gift, 250€ max, he doesn't care for the movement, but minds mainly the looks.

>>60629729
It says "I can't afford a real watch so I got this instead"

>>60630428
SICK BURN

>>60630428
l m a o

>>60630428
There will always be a bigger, more expensive brand of watch with slightly better movement or with a little more charm but I enjoy THIS watch. I'm truly disappointed by people telling me that it's from a lower bracket of watches, not worth it or that I'm wrong for considering it high end. As many have pointed out (and I really appreciate the support), "high end" is subjective and really depends on the spectrum of watches he/ she can afford. This watch, believe it or not, is high end in terms of what I will come to own in my lifetime. I didn't post for any other reason than to share my watch with a group of people who could appreciate it. Don't prove me wrong.

>>60630428
>>60630487
>>60630493
samefag

>>60627985
That's you're opinion, but I disagree entirely with you. Still have yet to see a single watch that competes with it under $3000.

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>>60628239
Gonna need something like this m8.

>>60628239
Start from the other end, dummy.

>>60625143
>The dial isn't legible
Did you post the wrong picture? Looks plenty legible to me.

are seiko ISO 007s OK?

>>60631504
not watch related

reported, enjoy your ban

I realized bulky watches sucks and i want something thin with decent quality. Any recomendations for up to 50$?

>>60631235
>believing the swiss tool jew

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Got this meme watch for 30 bucks, how did I do?

>>60631562
>thin
>decent quality
>under $50
komandirskie

>>60631458
Do you mean the SKX007? If so then yes.

So I dropped my poor SNK809 and the fucker now stops every couple of minutes. A quick jolt gets it going again temporarily, but it always ends up stopping again.

Is it kill, and if so would it be easier to just get a new one instead of paying the watch jews to fix it?

They're only 80 maplebux, so I feel like repairs would only be marginally cheaper considering it cost 90 to get my old 5216 serviced.

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I don't know much about watches but I'd really like an oldschool Railroad watch like
>>60623621

I live in the US, so can anyone tell me what kind of models to look for and what I could expect to spend on one in good condition?

>>60631661
Fix it yourself. The worst thing that can happen is that you have to spend 80 maples on a new one

Fuck the watch jews

>>60630700
It's all good dude. We've all had to start somewhere with our watches. I don't have a problem with anyone who can't afford some over priced Rolex. I remember when I had to save up $200 on my first Seiko. I treasured that thing for years.

What I do have an issue with is buying something like >>60629714 where it's obviously trying to copy more expensive & better brands but fails, it just looks awful and cheap IMO.

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>>60631873
>Replying to copypasta

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Opinions on the SRP715?

I'm looking for a sports/field watch around 250 CAD for everyday wear and it seems pretty neato, but I'm worried that it'll either be fuckhuge or I'm missing out on something better.

>>60632126
Well how big it is depends on the size of your wrists. 43.5mm is pretty big for a watch, so unless you got pretty big wrists, it will look too big.

Second is how much you'll wear it and on what occasions. For 250 is a pretty good buy, but you could also consider Orient watches, they are good value for money as well and got some good sports watches imo

>>60632126
I think it looks pretty nice. It is a bit big.

>>60632126

Not my cup of tea, but it looks okay. Nearly 44mm which is pretty up there. Most people can't even pull off a 42 without looking like severe manlets.

>>60632126
They look nice, but are 2mm too large for my taste.

>>60631009
comfy what model w2c?

>>60631873
hahahaha

>>60631562
Pretty much any Seiko with a 7S26 movement. The SNK809 is a good start.

>>60631009
Now this is fucking beautiful is this a mod?

Any recommendations for a skinny wrist? 5.5", currently wear a F91-W and tired of digital watches desu, doesn't really give me any perception of time.

Looking to wear it casually and with a suit.

<$100 please!


Cheers lads.

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>>60633171
><$100

>>60633171
Seiko SNK809

>>60633300
>809 with a suit

>>60633171
Look up "Seiko 5" on Amazon and pick a design that catches your eye

>>60633341

>wears a suit
>$100 budget on watch
>beggars can't be choosers

>>60633341
Didn't see the suit bit. Either way. with that budget SNK809 is still an option.

Additionally pretty much any Seiko Quartz you fancy on Ebay.

>>60633495
>>60633423
>>60633341

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orient-FDB08005W-Esteem-Stainless-Leather/dp/B005HZU7LU/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1496012889&sr=8-17&keywords=orient

this at 42.5mm would be too large for my wrist no?

>>60633727
Yes

>>60633171
Sure your wrist circumference is 5.5"?
Even fairly lanky asian men seem to be at least 5.8ish inches in circumference

Find an aesthetically suitable timex midsize and you'll be set.

>>60633727
Oh god yes. You should be looking at 35-38mm range.

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>>60633727
For reference I have a 7.25" wrist and this is a 38mm watch.

>>60633831
>>60633803
>>60633793
>>60633770

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mens-Watches/Casio-MW-240-1BVEF-Mens-Watch/B01BMG1PI6/ref=cts_wa_2_vtp?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=1212178027&pf_rd_r=BGMT3YJH7ARSCP36GJ1X&pd_rd_wg=R7OXj&pf_rd_s=desktop-detail-softlines&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_i=B01BMG1PI6&pd_rd_w=Efukn&pf_rd_i=desktop-detail-softlines&pd_rd_r=BGMT3YJH7ARSCP36GJ1X&_encoding=UTF8

Might just go with this one then, cheap and cheerful and gives me incentive to get a better watch once I finish my A levels.

Cheers lads.

>>60633946

Even a Timex weekender will be good. Wear it as a beater sometimes, but usually have my sarb035 when I'm fucking about.

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1973 Rolex Air-King-Date. Shitty aftermarket perspex crystal fitted, hence the plethora of fucking scratches.
>>60620441
Rolexes do tick, but they are a lot quieter than most other watches.

>>60634185
Get rid of the fag bracelets, nice air king though.

Surely finding a NOS or genuine rolex crystal wouldn't be too hard?

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thingken about picking up a new Nomos

Should I get the Orion 35mm or the new Metro without power reserve/date? I already have a 36mm Club.

>>60634237
>tfw people called me a faggot for my bracelets when I posted my Tudor in the last thread.
P-pls no buli.. Thanks for the watch compliment though Anon.

>Crystal
Wouldn't be hard for me to find one, I'm just a bit tied up with getting another watch of mine serviced at the moment. Maybe some other time I'll get around to it. We'll see.

>>60634185
Please lose the beads

>>60634251
How big are your wrists? Any shots with the club on?

>>60634251
You already have the nomos with the least cheap looking case m8.

>>60632353
420634

>>60631009
Yes.

>>60633072
Er, yes.

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am I the only one here who loves the speedmaster?

>>60634711
What is it

>>60634867
What's a speedmaster? Some kind of high-beat?

>>60634901
48000 BPH. Ultra smooth ticking hand

>>60634878
A lot of work.

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just arrived, to sit next to the Elnix that I have

>>60635230
Nice penis quartz.

>>60634185
nice beads fuckboi

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>>60635236
exactly why the elnix is there in case I'm not in the mood for penis quartz

>>60634185
did you attend a private school, and play acoustic guitar to try and impress chalet girls?

i want to sell my speedmaster lads

i dont post on the watch sites so i cant post classifieds...

ebay?

yes ebay

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>>60631738
>I live in the US, so can anyone tell me what kind of models to look for and what I could expect to spend on one in good condition?

I have a 1939 Waltham Vanguard railroad chronometer in great condition. Since no one wants pocket watches anymore they're some of the highest horologically valuable pieces you can get for hardly any money. You can find them for a few hundred dollars usually.

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Does anybody know the history/relationship between Rolex & Tudor well enough to give me a quick rundown?

What was the point of Tudor? Was it just that Rolex wanted to make an offshoot brand for the 'lower income' market?

Are Tudor watches still made with Rolex craftsmanship or do they kind of skimp around the edges and cut costs? (Has it changed over the years - better/worse?)

The more I look at Tudor watches, the more I absolutely love them. I'm a big fan of Rolex sports watches

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>>60634479
I've posted with them before. I just wear them to piss off /g/ at this stage.
>>60635277
Y-you too..
>>60635325
I wish.

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Huge watches are the worst fucking meme. I have 6 3/4" wrists and my current everyday looks great sitting at 37mm, where as trying to buy any modern sports watch they're mostly 42mm+.

Whats a good sports watch >40mm ~200USD?

>>60635652
>What was the point of Tudor?
Tudor was created to be the more budget arm of Rolex, sell to those who couldn't or didn't want to spring for the real thing.

>>60635652
I own both a vintage Tudor and a Rolex, so I can give you the quick rundown here (from my own pov)

From what I know about their history together, Tudor used to be a sub-brand of Rolex back in the 1930's - 1980's. They produced their own versions of the submariner, and a hell of a lot of oyster models that looked pretty much identical to their Rolex counterparts, and this is down to the fact that they shared the *exact* same cases, bracelets, crowns, and crystals. Tudors of this period have a caseback marked with "Oyster Case by Rolex," or something along those lines, whereas Rolexes do not.

Differences: Movements, and some later models had slightly lower quality dials and case finishings. (The best period for Tudor dials on vintage pieces would be the 1960's and 1970's in my own opinion.) Rolex used in-house movements, Tudor used modified ETA movements.

Shorter Version: Tudor = Rolexes more affordable, but still by no means cheap, younger brother. They use a lot of the same parts, but they are two totally different things. Tudor is a respectable brand, and you should totally get one.

These days, Tudor is its own company entirely, and they are producing their own in-house movements. A friend of mine has a Tudor Black Bay, and honestly? The quality is superb. I'd put them on par with Rolex entirely.

Can a watch maker anon help me out ? When winding the main spring back into the barrel do I have to cross it over itself or does it just spiral in

>>60635982
I can't be assed to find which vids he places the mainspring back in the barrel, but check out the watch repair channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jewldood

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>>60635819
Thanks senpai

I may get one in a few years, once some of the new models begin popping up on the used market for lower prices. Right now I'm hunting for my first Rolex (14060M)

I may pick up a Black Bay, either Bronze or the S&G

God, they're just so pretty looking. just look at the bronze version

>>60629030
I was merely using the price of the original item to discredit the idea that $300 for a passable fake wasn't too expensive (if fakes are your thing). If you remembered to take your aspergers meds you'd have caught that.

>>60629590
Seiko Turtle (SRP777/775)

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>>60636278
Just know that the bronze is eventually going to turn into this.

>>60636278
>tfw not enough money for tudor north flag.

>>60631504
Dank

>>60634251
Sell what you have, buy any of the neomatiks or ones with the DUW3001 movement.

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>>60636346
You say that like it's a bad thing. This is brass, but similar enough

>>60634185
>34mm
Fuck that looks like cancer. I guess whatever floats your boat. I also don't mind the beads.

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>tfw trouble justifying buying a new Rolex even though I want one
>tfw I think gold and silver are going to go up exponentially in price in a couple years, while the Rolex market will collapse when the economy finally is kill
>tfw bought a gold eagle for $1300 that I will use to purchase another Rolex when the prices flip

>>60634185
Holy shit get rid of the fag beads. Nice Air-King-Date though, is it a manual wind?

>>60638351
Oyster perpertual on the dial means it's automatic m8.

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>>60638320
Bought a few thousand if SLV at 15.6 a few days ago. Shouldn't take long to be back in the 17.5 range

>>60638458

I bought a gold eagle, 12 ten ounce bars, and 20 silver eagles about a week ago. Decided to get back into precious metals after I got robbed by my roommate a year and a half ago.

>>60638657
That's brutal. Sorry to hear that. I've generally kept mine in a deposit box at the bank.

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>>60638694
I'm always conflicted about safe deposit boxes because on one hand I don't like leaving things in the semi-possession of others, but on the other hand it probably is somewhat more secure than my current gunsafe.

Currently I have everything in a Liberty Centurion safe (pic not mine) that I have lag screwed to the floor of my closet with a thick piece of angle iron blocking it from being moved out or knocked over.

I've considered a second safe but fuck me dead I have no where to hide it from my landlord.

>>60629714
Is it the same movement? I think the movement is the watch's biggest downfall.

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Find a flaw /wt/.

>>60638834
>ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
>3mm too big
>Now that COSC certification is standard on all Rolex watches now it doesn't really have the special identity it used to have

>>60630295
well you do have to fit a lot of shit in, including a battery, and the screen can't be too small because you're supposed to read text on it.
smartwatches are stupid.

>>60634251
Metro
I think the Orion looks like shit

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>>60634251
>thingken about picking up a new Nomos

would you?

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/jwl/6125124307.html

>>60637719
Difference is that the entire surface of that lighter is constantly getting buffed and rubbed.
A watch case however has a bunch of nooks and crannies where nothing really ever touches the metal, so uneven staining is more likely.

>>60639222
>nice trips

I don't see anything in there I would want, if you are buying them to take apart and learn to fix watches then maybe however I would rather spend 200 on ebay and get a few watches I actually want

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Is this watch general better than /fa/'s?

Also, my Vostok

>>60639448
no

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>>60639448
Yes friend it has a lot more posters, better quality posts,and wholesome Baptist preaching every thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styLx-iWwC8

Never listen to /fa/ about anything

they even dress like shit

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>go check out the /fa/ thread real quick
>mfw that faggot with the ugly green faced seiko is shitting up that thread too

people are unironically willing to pay big bucks to be able to see the time.
pro tip: time can be seen [spoiler]everywhere[/spoiler]

>>60639572
It's jewelry faggot, a nice watch and a wedding ring are the only acceptable pieces of jewelry for a straight man to wear

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>>60639448
Yes, also nice Komandirskie.

>>60639222
fuck no

>>60638850
All of this. Additionally, the dial features are all hyper exaggerated like those phones they make for old people and retards that are just a massive keypad.

At least they fixed the hands lmao. The fact that people bought that shit and defended the stunted dwarf hands and rolex laziness to the death will never not be funny.

>>60635671
>whines about big watches
>wants something >40mm
what the fuck

>>60641348
Pretty sure it's just a typo m8, and that he meant <40mm.

>>60641348
most people don't know what those symbols mean.

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Just bought this sexy motherfucker for 25,50€, did I fuck up?

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1960 Tudor before and after raping it while running to a Chinese takeout place while drunk. Posted it in the last thread also.
>>60638351
The beads will never leave, and /g/'s suffering will never end. The air-king-date is automatic with a manual wind option for giving it a boost after not wearing it for a while.
>>60641610
I actually really like this. Nice buy Anon.
>>60636278
Maybe check out the prices of the old Tudor Submariners? I think you might like those. I know that you could pick them up a few years ago for around the £1,000 - £1,500 mark. Not sure what they're bringing at the minute though. I'm sure there's still some bargains to be had.

>>60641849
At least you looked rad with those beads. Totally worth the scratches.

>>60637748
Implying all watches should be 34-38mm and anything bigger shouldn't be thrown in the trash.

>>60637748
I have skinny bitchwrists, so I struggle to pull off anything much bigger than probably the Rolex Explorer models. Wish I could, but it's just not for me. At least you don't mind my beads.

I'm fine with using ebay for some cheap shit but now I want to buy something vintage for real money but I'm worried about all the fakes on there.

What are the better / safer sites to look at?

>>60642281
Chrono24?

>>60642281
chrono24, although just like ebay anyone can sell on it so check the seller.

>>60641849
Kill yourself.

>>60623345
>automatic for 95$
I'd probably buy it if it weren't back, it's hard to make a watch with a black dial look good imo
>>60623022
I'd like to know whwere I can learn stuff like that tho, about being able to tell the movement being small

>>60642612
well just the placement of the date window. they will almost always be at the edge of the movement. so when you see those big fashion watches with a date window close to the center of the dial, it means they used whatever cheap movement they had lying around.
and a date window lost in a dial looks like shit. which that orient does.

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Let's see some collections /g/, I wanna see some family photos

My collection is pretty shit tier rn but I love em. Bottom left is a carriage my dad got me when I was a kid, top left is the gshock I wear to work, 2nd from the right is a caravelle my girlfriend got me for Easter.
One next to that is a Laco/1925 that I overpaid for (180$ for a quartz), the 2nd and 3rd from the left are my two new Vostoks I just got two days ago, and the top right is a little 40$ Timex expedition I picked up at walmart

>>60642680
oh I was overthinking and thought thought it had something to do with the date window being at 6 instead of 3

>>60642296
>>60642301
I read several stories about scams on that site and that Chrono24 don't really care, but I guess it's like anywhere. Do your research on the seller.

>>60642814
you can cut out the part that shows anywhere around the circle

>>60643054
well right but I thought the date was alittle mechanism that couldn't necessarily fit anywhere

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>>60643091
No it's a big disc that's all around the movement.

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It's for sale

>>60643664
oh well shit fair enough

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R A K E T A

>>60643714
>buyng a watch that pretends to be a rolex, that pretends to be a blancpain
kys my man

>>60643755
and ye i know the hands are in shit condition

>>60643770
Says the guy who doesn't even post hes non-existing watch.

>>60643773
>>60643755
Nice Pakema my man

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Rate my watch.

>>60643948

10/10

Wearing mine at work right now. I love how light it is.

>>60643948
I rate 2 x B747 > | | well flown anon.

>>60643714
I never got the tudor meme.

A rolex momevement is <300$ in materials and labor. Say another 200$ for the case.

So, literally <10% of the final price of the Rolex is materials an labor, the rest being a combination of brand name, exclusivity, after sales service and support etc.
And I'm fine with that. It's how luxury goods work.


But what the fuck does tudor offer then? Even if it had the exact same case and movement with the submariner (let's forget about the generic ETAs they've mostly been using), it's still 10% of the value of a rolex (because 90% of the rolex is brand name and upport), for half the price.
This is a terrible proposition. How the fuck is that the "smart man's Rolex"?

On their own they can be pretty, well finished watches. But for 4k, there are tons of pretty, well finished watches. even from manufactures like JLC. Or a Grand Seiko if you're looking for a diver.

But 3-4k for an ETA in a "homage" case and dial, from a relatively obscure brand is just silly. Unless they make a super special, unique looking watch, which homage brands rarely do.

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>>60644126
>A rolex momevement is <300$ in materials and labor. Say another 200$ for the case.

I'm pretty sure the price goes up dramatically when you consider that, yes, Rolex puts a fuck of a lot of (very expensive) Swiss labor into every last piece of their watches, plus they use 904l steel which even Patek, Vacheron, etc. will not do as it's so brutal on machining tools which increases costs dramatically. Plus Rolex throws a huge chunk of their money back into R&D and capital goods which is why we have shit like them running their own foundry so they can control the quality of their gold/platinum/etc. which is insanely dedicated to their craft when you think about it.

Rolex is indeed "overpriced" in the sense that every single luxury good is, but people like to downplay severely how much Rolex puts into their watches.

>>60644126
Just the fact that you can't afford it or don't want it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

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>>60641849

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>>60644126
>>>60643714
>A rolex momevement is <300$ in materials and labor. Say another 200$ for the case.
>So, literally <10% of the final price of the Rolex is materials an labor, the rest being a combination of brand name, exclusivity, after sales service and support etc.

>>60643948
Autistic/10

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>>60644262
>plus they use 904l steel which even Patek, Vacheron, etc. will not do as it's so brutal on machining tools which increases costs dramatically
Uh, 904 is actually softer than 316, it's easier to machine.

Should I use my line of credit on a Rolex and be like my idol Archie?

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>>60641610

>>60644555
>using money you haven't earned yet on a piece of jewelry

i'd probably do it desu

>>60644480
That's wrong.

>>60644262
A submariner was $180 dollars in 1965

The price has gone up FAR ahead of inflation for no good reason other than scarcity and brand recognition

>>60644555
"iph it doesn't hurt, it's not worth it"
-AC3

>>60644599
Fantastic retort, go read up on steels.

>>60644601
How about labor? It's fucking expensive in 1st world countries rn. Especially if you need highly qualified Swiss watchmakers.

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>>60644475
>>60644262
>>60644126

>>60644601
>Rolex used solid link, solid end link bracelets in 1965
>Rolex used a milled glide-lock clasp in 1965
>Rolex used super thick sapphire crystals in 1965
>Rolex used a free sprung balance wheel in 1965
>Rolex used a balance bridge design in 1965
>Rolex adjusted and regulated all of their movements to COSC standards in 1965
Idiot.

>>60644634
>How about labor? It's fucking expensive in 1st world countries rn. Especially if you need highly qualified Swiss watchmakers.
It was expensive back then, there is no way they have thousands of dollars in labor in each submariner, when adjusting for inflation you adjust for labor cost too see

>>60644641

It's all advertising and controlled scarcity, a submariner "should" cost about $1300

>>60644645
>>Rolex used solid link, solid end link bracelets in 1965
Yeah that's worth a couple of grand right there, idiot

>>60644480
>904 is actually softer than 316
No it isn't. The Rockwell on 904 is far higher.

>>60644706
No, it's not.

>>60644645
If you will notice from this chart, a subby has gone up by $4000 just since 2006

What have they added in materials or complexity in the last 10 years that justifies charging another $4000 for the same watch?

>>60644673
Did you forget to scroll down to see the rest of his list?

>>60644662
I usually hate overpriced products, but Rolex SA is pretty based if you think about it. All of the profits go back to R&D. And their watches maintain value very well, so if you buy used, you can sell it later for the same price usually.

>>60644613
No u.

904L work hardens much more easily, making it more difficult to machine.

>>60644734
Having worked with both myself, I can tell you that simply is not true.

>>60644716
Oh, I agree about the price increases since 2006, but pretending there haven't been significant upgrades to several aspects of the Sub between 1965 and 2006 makes you look retarded.

And yes, Rolex watches are overpriced, but by double not 10x. It's not as if Grand Seikos are 1/4 the price of Rolex.

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Opinions on the Marathon GPM?

I'm looking for a decent auto field watch and tritium illumination gets my peepee soggy.

Like:
-Tritium
-34mm
-Sapphire crystal on new ones
-300CAD new

Dislike:
-Fucking plastic "fibershell" bullshit
-Seems like it may look like a toy

I know they have a stainless steel model, which I actually like a lot better, but it's both more than double the cost and uses a hand-winding movement, so for practicality and wallet reasons I'd be stuck with the plasticy one.

Anyone have one or seen one in the wild that can give me their 2 cents?

>>60644366
reference number?

>>60644641
So, adjusted for inflation, a submariner roughly sextupled in price.

Feels about right, it would be a great watch for 1200$-1400$ (it's inflation adjusted price if the wasn't any raise).

>>60644762
They are over priced by about 4x

Grand Seikos are usually newly designed watches, not slightly modified 60 year old designs that have been in continuous run.

With the improvements a Rolex Submariner should be about 2-3k

>>60644808
>Feels about right, it would be a great watch for 1200$-1400$ (it's inflation adjusted price if the wasn't any raise).
yup i would buy one at that price

>>60644712
You're probably looking at azom.com, which shows 316l having a higher "max" hardness, while only showing a "typical" hardness range for 904l.

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>>60644764
Forget the tritium it's not that special.
Just saying, you have a lot more selection after that.

>>60644784

SARB035

>>60644845
I mean, sure, it's going to depend on the heat treat, but there's no reason 904 needs to be more difficult to work with, you can always heat treat after machining. If Rolex is claiming otherwise, they're full of shit.

>>60644712

904l has more chromium in it.

Supply and demand boys, supply and demand. A lot of retail products are "overpriced" if you think about it. The shirt you're wearing, whether it was cheap or expensive, was probably "overpriced" by at least 10-20x.

>>60644645
>they had the same materials in 1965
>they had computer assisted design and verification in 1965
>they had the same efficiency in 1965
>they had CNC in 1965
The idiot here is you.

Rolexes improved in accordance to the new materials, machinery and technology getting invented and becoming mainstream.

Their prices skyrocketed far beyond that.

>>60644894
See
>>60644887

>>60635521
>>60623621
How do you wear/carry these?
I've always wanted to get a pocket watch but I'm afraid of the inconvenience/looking autistic.
Enlighten me, please.
Asking for a friend.

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>>60644920
Perhaps in your fucking pocket?

>>60644920
Unless you're wearing a tux or a super formal white tie suit, you can't really use it without looking autistic.

>>60644907
>Rolexes improved in accordance to the new materials, machinery and technology getting invented and becoming mainstream.
>Their prices skyrocketed far beyond that.

You think their costs on a basic submariner have gone up $4000 in the last 10 years?

>>60644974
Read again.

I'm saying the exact opposite.
All the improvements were to be expected, as the new technologies became available and cheap, so the inflated price for the improvements is *not* justified at all.

>>60645013
Ah, yes I agree.

It's like laptops, they stay the same price but the materials get better every years. The idea that solid links and sapphire glass justify thousands of dollars in increased cost is ridiculous .

I feel a basic submariner should cost what a REALLY good fake does, and that's about 2k

>>60644262
>Plus Rolex throws a huge chunk of their money back into R&D and capital goods
they have to

>>60644662
>>60644808
that's crazy there is nothing like a rolex for 1300

>>60645056
Steinheart

>>60644822
You're fucking retarded.
Parts don't get cheaper to CNC because you make a lot of them. Polishing and brushing don't get cheaper to do because it's an old design.
The 313x shares virtually nothing in common with pre-303x Rolex movements and is labour intensive to make, assemble and adjust.

If it was so easy to achieve Rolex quality for drastically less money, other companies would try. In the real-world no.one besides Grand Seiko even attempts to compete with Rolex on quality in production watches.

>>60644907
So why are Grand Seikos also so expensive? Why doesn't anyone else try to make comparable watches for cheaper? Why are in-house Damasko's 2,500+ Euros? Why are in-house Nomos ~$4,000+? It's just a big conspiracy between Rolex, Nomos, Damasko and Grand Seiko?

>>60644920
you don't.

>>60645056
>that's crazy there is nothing like a rolex for 1300

most other swiss watch makers have inflated prices too but you can make a watch like a subby and sell it for under 2 grand

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seamaster-Aqua-Terra-Grey-Dial-Stainless-Steel-Mens-Watch-/151755573181?hash=item23555647bd:g:~dEAAOSwDNdVsS-O

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>>60645124
>Parts don't get cheaper to CNC because you make a lot of them.
China would like a word with you.

>>60645171
>Omega
Oh joy, 80% of Rolex prices for 20% of Rolex effort.

>>60645171
that's a terrible watch that's much more overpriced than a rolex.

>>60645124
>Parts don't get cheaper to CNC because you make a lot of them. Polishing and brushing don't get cheaper to do because it's an old design.

Then why was a subby $4000 in 2006 and now MSRP is on a no date is $8000?

explain what has run their cost up $4000 per watch in the last 10 years

>>60645080
which are their in house COSC models?
>>60645171
>quartz

>>60645164
>Why doesn't anyone else try to make comparable watches for cheaper?
There are a million rolex knock offs, some nearly as good as a rolex with swiss movements and sapphire crystals and solid link bands, for under $1000

>>60645164
>So why are Grand Seikos also so expensive?
Grand Seikos are usually limited runs and have big costs from development that a no date rolex would not have.

Grand Seikos are usually not $8,000, but they are luxury goods and over priced as well

>>60645183
>Oh joy, 80% of Rolex prices for 20% of Rolex effort.

more like less than half rolex prices for watches with more complications like being chronographs

a man on the fucking moon watch is more complex than a nodate subby, half the price, swiss made and still profitable (and overpriced)

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>>60645245
>There are a million rolex knock offs, some nearly as good as a rolex with swiss movements and sapphire crystals and solid link bands, for under $1000

LMAO. Ok we're done here.

>>60645289
Explain to me how Rolex's costs on a no date subby have gone up $4000 per watch since 2006

>>60645245
>here are a million rolex knock offs, some nearly as good as a rolex with swiss movements

Wow, you just described 99% of shitters. Who would have thought you could get such affordable luxury by throwing ETA movements into cheap chinese cases! Good thing we have you here to set the record straight.

Btw, what is it like to work for Squale?

>>60645316
>Wow, you just described 99% of shitters. Who would have thought you could get such affordable luxury by throwing ETA movements into cheap chinese cases! Good thing we have you here to set the record straight.

Rolex could make and sell no date subbys for $4000 profitably in 2006

Now they are $8000 just 11 years later, for a simple no date subby

why is that?

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>>60645268
>30+ year old non-hacking, 21,600bph cam-actuated chronograph in an actually 40+ year old, easy to manufacture case and dial design
ROFL

>>60645334
YOU DON'T GET IT THEY HAVE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT COSTS THAT JUST KEEP GOING UP AND UP!!!!!

THE LUME IS A LITTLE BETTER NOW, THAT'S LIKE 5 GRAND RIGHT THERE!!!!

>>60645164
>So why are Grand Seikos also so expensive?
Compared to what?

Grand Seikos are around 3k, half the price of a basic submariner.

And you can choose between highbeats and springdrive (which was actually a really long reserach project and no other manufacture has the right to use).

And for that price you get considerably better finishing and a fully in-house, hand made movement (even the damn oils and springs are produced by Seiko), adjusted to tighter than COSC standards.

So they're expensive, yes. But compared to what? Because they're a bargain next to rolexes.

>>60645124
>Parts don't get cheaper to CNC
CNC machines get cheaper to buy and operate, the more you buy though.

Dumb mountainjew.

>>60645396
less than half price

and god forbid you want one with a date or any options....

>>60645316
>get such affordable luxury by throwing ETA movements
You mean like Tudor™ (a Rolex™ brand).

(^;

>>60645478
Oh, forgot that one too.

Almost all grand Seikos have at least one complication (date), and usually an extra one like GMT costs almost the same. And spring drives offer a power reserve complication too, at 0 extra cost.

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>>60645396
Hi

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Only two watches I will ever need.

Fuck I didn't even realize a basic subby is $8000 now

that's fucking stupid

They used to be tool watches actually worn by divers, now they are just way way over priced jewelry

>>60645568
because it's outmoded technology, even if it wasn't an overpriced luxury good you'd be dumb to buy one.

>>60645647
It's the same thing for all intents and purposes as any automatic winding watch like a seiko skx007 or anything like that

>>60634185
>hence the plethora
could you be a bigger faget?
>beads
yes, you can

it looks a little tight, but otherwise very nice. i'd leave it as is if it was mine.

>>60634867
no, obviously not.

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Thank you anon who tried this with his turtle. Probably because I have shit taste, but I'm enjoying it.

>>60645669
intense. and purpose.

>>60645396
The absolute cheapest Grand Seiko mechanicals are ~$3,500. Most GS mechanical models are in the ~$5,000 range.

And I don't disagree they are better than Rolex, buy the pricing of Grand Seiko, Nomos DUW models, and Damasko's in-house models all seem to indicate that high end production mechanicals are $3,500 and up. Which would make Rolex overpriced by half, not by the outrageous amounts people were suggesting.

>>60645924
Grand seikos are the luxury watches of seiko, their prices bear no meaning to reality. They are meant to be status symbols and expensive. For what you get when you buy one, they are over priced, but people pay it so they don't have to wear the same watch their employees do.

It's like a $400 designer tshirt or a $500 pair of jeans, there can be no justification for that in reality.

However Rolex has some real balls to charge $8000 for a basic no date diver they have been producing for 50 years that used to cost under 200 bucks

>>60645986
>>>60645924 (You)
>Grand seikos are the luxury watches of seiko, their prices bear no meaning to reality. They are meant to be status symbols and expensive. For what you get when you buy one, they are over priced, but people pay it so they don't have to wear the same watch their employees do.
In actual fact, you know nothing, the general consensus is that Grand Seiko has historically undercharged relative to the amount of labour they lavish on their watches.

https://youtu.be/2rnZhkTINV4

Those facilities and workers are used to make ~5,000 watches a year.

>>60646062
>In actual fact, you know nothing, the general consensus is that Grand Seiko has historically undercharged relative to the amount of labour they lavish on their watches.
they do it for free!

>>60646062
>Those facilities and workers are used to make ~5,000 watches a year.

at 4000 per watch that's $20,000,000 per year, I don't think they are hurting too bad

>>60645538
I had one of those. They're crap.

>>60646365
Was planning to put down a deposit to see one in person - tell me more.

>>60645924
>Which would make Rolex overpriced by half, not by the outrageous amounts people were suggesting
It would make Rolex overpriced by at least 2x, which is already crazy when we're talking about luxury items.

"Hey man, Rolls Royce is not ourageously overpriced, it's just twice as much as an S600L".

Also, the sheer amount of watches coming out of Rolex is a multitude of those coming out of Nomos and Grand Seiko, and Rolex's production is much more automated.

If exclusivity is an aspect of luxury pricing, then Rolexes are much more overpriced than a factor of 2.

>>60646399
and that's the cheapest possible rolex, i don't even know how much a deep sea or their other shit costs

In a way it almost doesn't matter that Rolex are overpriced because people are prepared to buy them because it's the one brand that guaranteed to keep it's value over time. You're almost never going to lose money if you have to sell the watch later on.