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>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
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http://bropages.org/

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>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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First for I like linux
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First for Arch
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What kernel are you using, /g/?
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Installing Tumbleweed. What to except?
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Friendly reminder that debian is finished because devuan has been officially released..
https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stable-jessie-announce-052517
https://devuan.org
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In Cinnamon non-focused windows add [ ] around the name. Any way to stop that?
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>>60602218
billy g looks like a pussy slayer in that pic
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>>60602302
nvm foudn it
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>>60602320
[THREAD CLOSED]
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>>60602280
4.11.2-ck
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>>60602218
I disagree with the babby's first linux on installgentoo. Bunsenlabs is reddit-tier garbage compared to Crunchbang++.

>>60602459
Arch?
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>>60602280
4.11.2-1-ARCH (noob so I don't even know if that's correct)
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What is a good video editor for linux that one could do professional work with?
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>>60602653
dualboot windows and use something decent like adobe's stuff
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>>60602681
>paid subscription
it's good, but i've refused to use anything past CS6

it would be amazing if the courts struck down the subscription model of software like this if there isn't a way to buy it outright as well
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>>60602717
this, subscriptions are fucking cancer and public companies are the ones pushing it
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>>60602653
Flowblade, shotcut, kdenlive, davinci resolve (surely you know what the last one is). Flowblade I've liked over shotcut, but it doesn't work in Solus which I've taken to using lately. Davinci resolve apparently should work like it does on any other OS, but I have never had a successful installation of it on any distro.

Could a kind anon try installing flowblade (py file) from source and/or davinci resolve (sh file) on their GNU+Linux distro?
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>>60602732
public companies are the ones pushing it because without the subscription model they will go bankrupt
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I remember hearing about some sort of GPU run-through for Linux where you use one GPU exclusively for Linux and another exclusively for a Windows virtual PC, where can I find out more about this?

Does this work with two separate video cards rather than only a card and integrated graphics?

How does that work when it comes to adaptive refresh rates like Freesync? Can I have Freesync running in the VM and it successfully eliminate screen tearing?

Does the Linux GPU need to support Freesync for it you to get the benefit of Freesync in the VM?
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>>60602757
good, they are artificially being supported by stockholders. Multinational companies are a scourge.
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install Source Mage
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>>60602774
gpu passthrough
arch wiki
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I'm using elementary os. How do I type in japanese on it? I used anthy before but I tried installing it and it didn't work.
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How can I change the colour of the top bar to match the one from firefox, files, etc. (basically the rest of the theme) ?
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>>60602959
Use the same thing for your wm/de as gtk/qt
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>>60602294
nice
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>>60602841
actually, I am installing Source Mage
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>>60603021
I did.

I used ARC-OSX, but for some reason the colors are messed up.
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>>60603215
firefox uses its own theme
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>>60603314
No,firefox uses the gtk theme
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>>60603314
https://github.com/LinxGem33/OSX-Arc-Shadow

They have a firefox theme and I have it installed.

The theme that's fucked up is the gnome-shell one from OSX-Arc, which is the one I want to change
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>>60602850
Okay, but that doesn't answer any of my questions about Freesync,
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>>60603466
Google young one.
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My 6 year old laptop could barely run a browser when I had Windows 7 installed on it.

After lots of research, I decided to replace it with GNU/Linux fully. I downloaded Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Fast forward 3 months, I am running Linux Mint XFCE in a virtual machine on Antergos XFCE, and the virtual machine is running flawlessly.

I can have 3 programs open, while using a virtual machine to torrent and browse the internet with zero issues.

Look, I understand how Windows is good for programs like CAD, Photoshop, and gaming, but nothing compares to the feel you get from using GNU/Linux.

Thanks, /g/. This is the true redpill
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>>60603854
Yeah man, it's great isn't it.
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>>60603854
I know that feeling.
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>>60602959
>that fucking huge bar at the top
firefox, not even once
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can someone help me get wifi working on tahrpup? have a dell 1510 wifi card
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>>60602610
If that's the output of "uname -r" Then yes
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let us say for example i download the latest version of ubuntu server basically any linux os without a de or wm... and for instance on ubuntu server there is only a shell -- why is it when i download let's say mate or xfce it does not install all the goodies that come with ubuntu mate or xubuntu? am i missing something here? is it also a bad idea to install multiple de/wm?
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>>60603110
Good.
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>>60604057
because it's not configured or missing extra packages that do not come with the DE
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>>60604057
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60604057
When there is a distro specially for a DE it usually gets lots additional stuff like patches, theming, etc it not really a good idea to install multiple DEs unless you really know what you do, but you can install as much as WMs you want.
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>>60604567
It's so easy a monkey could do it. There is no reason not to install Gentoo/Arch/Void and build from the ground up.
>hurrrrrrrrrrr where do i get themes
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I've got a file with permissions -r-sr-x--- and owner "user3" group "user2". As user2 how can I read this file?
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>>60604057
Thanks to the god emperor for that. What you call goodies are random picks by maintainers and unnecessary for other people with dissimilar preferences.

>>60604516
Thank you god emperor.
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>>60602959
arc shell theme
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>>60604599
https://www.google.com/#q=linux+multiple+user+permission
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>>60604640
botnet
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>>60604599
chmod g+r file
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>>60604640
>sending people to google
Would you gently kill yourself? The internet has enough "LOL u dumb, google it" faggot.

Not it doesn't make you look smart.
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So my PC just started shutting down randomly during playback with mpv. I'm on antergos. When I look for the system logs, it appears as a normal reboot, and the cpu temp is 30 c and the gpu is 61 c, so it's not overheating. I saw on the issue tracker that mpv with hardware decoding is having a memory leak, but would full memory just shut down my pc? Or is my power supply dying? Pls respond.
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>>60604640
>google
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>>60604693
g already has r
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>>60602280
just installed 4.11.3.2-ck-ivybridge, but I still need to configure it. Feels comfy
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Could
May 27 00:19:03 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 46748, resource id: 35670564, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0 
May 27 00:19:03 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22727, resource id: 62914562, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22832, resource id: 4194309, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22980, resource id: 62914562, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 23144, resource id: 4194309, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:07 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 49201, resource id: 35682128, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0
May 27 00:19:07 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9 (BadDrawable), sequence: 49202, resource id: 35682128, major code: 14 (GetGeometry), minor code: 0
May 27 00:19:07 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 23423, resource id: 65011728, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
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cause a reboot?
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>>60604813
Possibly.
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=133169
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>>60604934
So I guess it's time to drop kde? Jesus Christ, its so unsettling to watch animu and then suddenly your PC reboots for no fucking reason.
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So we all know that you cant set custom css for your firefox about:home page without the url bar changing to be a pointer to the file location, but is it possible to do it on gnu/ linux, even if by editing the source then compiling?
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>>60604986
I like Openbox+Tint2. No problems, and low RAM usage. Of course, it requires more setup but for me it's worth the responsiveness.
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>>60604986
install fluxbox
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>>60605009
apache, localhost
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Friendly reminder that Linux is just the kernel. Other kernels are:
The Muen Separation Kernel https://muen.sk/
and HiStar http://www.scs.stanford.edu/histar/

Operating Systems under GPL are:
FreeVMS http://www.freevms.net/
FreeDOS https://www.freedos.org/
Plan 9 https://github.com/brho/plan9
JNode http://www.jnode.org/
KolibriOS http://kolibrios.org/en/
ReactOS https://reactos.org/

Special mention to GNU/Hurd https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/
Arch Hurd http://www.archhurd.org/
Debian GNU/Hurd https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd
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>>60604752
Is it possible to change the frequency of MuQSS without recompiling?
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>>60602218
hi, im being spastic about theming and this cunt theme in omz isn't working properly and I can't apply the fix for it. The theme is trapd00r and I get this line on every command run
 prompt_jnrowe_precmd:20: command not found: zsh_path 
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>>60605106
no
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>>60605205
o fug
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is there much of a difference running a liveUSB off of a slow USB 2.0 flash drive or a significantly faster USB 3.0 drive?
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How can I change my login manager from whatever ships with Antergos to a cmd-only login?
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Okay, I've tried about three times but I can't get Lubuntu to install. It's the latest build (17.04, I think) and everything goes fine until a certain point where it just says:

The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot.

I am getting a bit frustrated here. I checked the ISO, and it's ok, so, what could it be?
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>>60605053
how would that fix it?
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>>60605532
Just uninstall your login manager and it will default to cmd
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>>60605378
Yes. For testing purposes, no.

>>60605645
Did it normally work before?
Did you mount and specify the device? If all else fails, try syslinux.
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>>60605694
I had Ubuntu MATE before on this drive, I don't know if it matters...
In any case, will first installing the LTS (16.04.2) and then upgrading it to 17.04 make it work?

I did mount the partitions correctly; the default EPS (I forgot the actual term) partition size was around 579 MB.
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Just finished installing Gentoo on my x60t. Went from Parabola to the mustard race in only a few hours. First time working with Gentoo too. Honestly was really straightforward. Just a bit time consuming. Glancing at the handbook a few times was all I needed. Course I only barely configured the kernel from what the defaults were but I'll do that after I've messed around with it a bit more. Really liking portage.
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I'm helping my friend install arch linux and when we run
pacstrap -i /mnt base base-devel

it gives us this output:
==> Creating install root at /mnt
==> Installing packages to /mnt
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core
core.sig
error: GPGME error: No data
error: failed to update core (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
extra
extra.sig
error: GPGME error: No data
error: failed to update extra (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
community
community.sig
error: GPGME error: No data
error: failed to update community (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
error: failed to synchronize any databases
error: failed to init transaction (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
== ERROR: Failed to install packages to new root

I copied all of that by hand so I may have made a typo here or there. Respond asap because we're tired and want to sleep.
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>>60605885
I forgot to mention, we're following this tutorial https://youtu.be/-ooyjGCades
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Sup /fglts/, just installed arch from a year with ubuntu.

Lurked screenfetch threads, but still kind of vague what to do for my DE and themes to go along with them. Any help?

>>60605885
I just installed successfully with https://github.com/jieverson/dotfiles/wiki/arch-linux-for-dummies and https://csdietz.github.io/arch-beginner-guide/
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>>60605885
show us your pacman.conf (I assume you uncommented your mirrorlist)
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>>60605885
>>60605893
Your router doesn't like the mirror you're trying to sync from. Open etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist with nano and place the mirror closest to your location at the top of the list. Then try again.
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>>60605923
Cool, I'm using Arch too btw.
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>>60605885
specifically, nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and cut/paste a more local mirror to top of file and then try to # pacstrap /mnt
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>>60605937
I did that, we're using the first one for US. Try the second one I guess?
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>>60605923
Do you NEED a DE or will a WM suffice? Avoid KDE due to problems like >>60604714
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>>60605937
Note that there's a slash before the etc (e.g. /etc) and that you have to remove the pound symbol on the mirror line (e.g. #)
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Why do i have so many text editors installed by default? nano, gedit and libre office. i get nanos good for cli stuff but whats the purpose of gedit vs libre office?
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>>60605951
Uncomment all of them for starters.
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How to disable nouveua kernel driver and correctly blacklist it on debian?
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>>60605960
Light weight vs. heavy weight. Different functionality. If you do not like bloat, do not use distros that ship with bloat.
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>>60605954
Basic run down on difference? Used to full DE like ubuntu and windows. Can I use things like a 'firefox' or any other gui app with a WM? Cool thanks to avoid kde.
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>>60605963
They're all uncommented. I just tried the first four for the US and the first one for Canada and all produce the same output.
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>>60605960
Libre Office is for documents (mla, ect.) gelut is more for coding (syntax highlighting, errors, ect.)
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>>60605965
http://www.allaboutlinux.eu/remove-nouveau-and-install-nvidia-driver-in-debian-8/

>Now its time to blacklist the nouveau driver.

sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf


>and add the following lines:
    blacklist nouveau
blacklist lbm-nouveau
options nouveau modeset=0
alias nouveau off
alias lbm-nouveau off
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>>60605988
Your pacstrap command looks different from the one I used successfully. Try pacstrap /mnt ?
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>>60605988
Is dhcp working. Try ping -c 3 www.google.com and see if you get three packets back.
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>>60605999
Ran both
pacstrap /mnt base base-devel
pacstrap /mnt
and both produced the same result

>>60606003
Yeah we can connect to the internet. Just pinged.
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>>60605989
gedit, not gelut. but yeah your write, i just realised you an change through plaint text to whatever syntax. Still what use is just a text editor without a compiler and manager (like eclipse)
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>>60606003
>google.com
>not stallman.org
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>>60606008
Weird! I remember a similar GPGME error when I didnt update the mirror list with a US based mirror on top. Try again from the start? Took me like 3 tries.
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>>60605983
DEs are like Ubuntu or Windows, but they take up a lot of resources (storage and RAM). Window managers are just that, they manage windows. You will need a separate program for everything (music, file manager, terminal, etc.). This is great because it follows the UNIX philosophy but also puts more control in the hands of the user. This is bad if you don't like configuring things.
Openbox+tint2 are a good combination, which I personally use.
https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/

>>60605988
can you do
sudo pacman -Syyu
? Again, post pacman.conf
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>>60606016
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how is nvidia optimus support under linux currently? is it working yet?

if it's not working, how is it handled with optmus hardware implementations where the display output is physically attached only to the intel gpu?
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>>60606016
useless ping requests belong to the rubbish bin: google.com
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>>60606012
Text editor without a compiler is lightweight. Especially when some compilers are built-in to the system like gcc. You just type up your code in plane text and then compile it from the Shell with the program that's already there.
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>>60606049
install gentoo
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What is a lightweight distro for a lightweight setup? I prefer it lightweight and minimal, pls no BLOAT suggestions
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>>60606030
I'd also like to recommend i3. Best wm imo.
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>>60606069
just stop using computers
- 100% bloat free
- lightweight
- minimal
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>>60606069
Gentoo or Arch.
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>>60606069
Archbang - Arch openrc
Star Linux- Devuan (debian openrc)
Crunchbang Waldorf (you need to remove old crunchbang repos as they are dead, but it has no systemd unlike Bunsen/Crunchbang++).

I personally use Archbang which is basically an Arch installer. I tried Star Linux and it was fine.
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>>60606055
oh true that, i forgot gcc was inbuilt. i suppose im thinking more for larger scale projects when you have a shit load of source files headers and the like.

>>60606069
true no bloat is just custom arch isnt it? you choose exactly what you want. lubuntu is fairly minimal but if you want true no bloat yet not days to install you want pure debian net install
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>>60606087
>>60606094
>arch
he said lightweight
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>>60606094
crunchbang is bloat though, the install alone is huge

>>60606079
i3 over awesome or openbox?
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>>60606094
Sorry, I assumed you meant preconfigured. If not, see >>60606087
BUT
do not use Arch. Use Arch-OpenRC. Linux From Scratch if you really hate bloat. Also check out Void.
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Arch isn't minimalist.

"It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible."

"It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian. There are very few cases where there are multiple packages offering different configurations of the same project. There's no equivalent to update-alternatives or the comparable uses of USE flags. Changing /bin/sh from Bash will be broken, as will changing the python symlink to point to python2 instead of python3 even though this works on some other distributions. It doesn't strive to offer choices like this, and never has."

"Arch is the opposite of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity."

"Arch has never been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc."

"It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective)."

"Memes about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy / principles / history."

t. arch wiki admin
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
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Best distros for GNOME?

I hate Fedora's release cycle.
I don't like Arch or AUR.
OpenSUSE installs SO MUCH shit. 4 shells, two network managers etc. I've tried ticking almost everything off but it resulted with a system without Zypper or Yast (even though I had chosen to install them)
Ubuntu is way too bloated and PPA's are stupid
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>>60606095
Large scale projects will benefit immensely from programs like Eclipse or Notepad++ but you should also have a good lightweight (specifically text based) editor for working remotely or otherwise. I use vim with a lot of customization and once you've got the navigation down, it's insanely fast for typing.
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>>60606131
install gentoo
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>>60606131
Devuan or Void
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I'm considering getting a laptop to run GNU/linux. Are the most recent "safe" (from botnet) processors 2012 or earlier AMDs?
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>>60606030
>>60606079

Cool, thanks. Is there a base "window" (that i could then put a wallpaper over) included that i3/openbox runs on top of, or is that xorg?
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>>60606148
2013 for Amd and 2006 for Intel. But it can be mitigated regardless.
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>>60606143
I tried Void but it lacked many packages I need.

Why Devuan instead of Debian, I'm not afraid of systemd. Even testing is ob GNOME 3.18.

>install ganoo
Do I have to recompile most of GNOME each update?
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>>60606148
Anything you can Libre/Coreboot

>>60606165
I use feh as my wallpaper "manager." It's dead simple image viewer but can set the wallpaper.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox#Wallpaper
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>>60606023
This is our fifth time trying it from the start. Yesterday when we last tried I think we discovered it might have something to do with the keyring, and when we tried to refresh them or something they the process would run for a really long time and eventually we had to ctrl+c.

>>60606030
Nope, pacman -Syyu prints the same thing.
Here are photos of
cat /etc/pacman.conf
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>>60606165
hsetroot
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>>60606108
Ya. Only reason I even use a wm at all is so I can watch videos and read pdfs or run redshift. I like the minimalism because I don't need anything more than the defaults. Also tiling navigation is fast.
>>60606165
You mean like having the background be something other than just plain black?
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>>60606185
systemd is a cancer. Packages are increasingly depending on it. I just forgot that GNOME depends on systemd, so that proves my point.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/GNOME_Without_systemd
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>>60606197
Looks normal. I suspect your mirrorlist is fucked. Try
curl -o /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/
and then uncomment your mirrors.. Then do
pacman -Syu pacman-mirrorlist
and then
sudo pacman -Syyuv
and post results.
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>>60606197
Idk man. I'm on my phone, lying in bed, about to fall asleep so I don't know how much help I can be but I assume you verified the integrity if the iso? Is your clock synced? I assume you mounted/created the proper partitions?
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>>60604752

>software
>comfy
>kernel
>comfy
>thinking he can feel the difference

Kill yourself.
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>>60606313
running
curl -o /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/

gives a conneciton refored error.
When I remove the https:// it downloads, but the file is a html page that says "You don't have access to /mirrorlist/all"
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>>60606357
reflector --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist --sort rate --latest 21
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>>60606222
>systemd is a cancer. Packages are increasingly depending on it.
how is it systemds fault when developer of program xy adds a dependency on it, you dumb meme nigger? take your memes back to 9gag. systemd is fine.
>>
well that was shit, anyway can i ask what the best ide is for c++ and eventually c developement. eclipse seems slow for doing stuff and obviously sublime is a no since its closed source. Ideally i just want auto fill and fast movement between files. At most so far ive have up to about 60 files for a project
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>he still uses pacman
>not trizen
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SystemD
>>
>unity memory usage after bootup
589mb
>Gnome memory usage after bootup
1263mb

Why the fuck didn't they just port Unity to Wayland instead of switching to Gnome? It's complete shit.

Double the memory usage and no noticeable features over what you get in Unity. I tried the Wayland session and the memory usage is exactly the same.
>>
>>60606623
vim
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>>60606699
>using a DE
>>
gnome 1 = dota
gnome 2 = lol
gnome 3 = dota 2
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>>60602280
4.1 LTS

Anything newer has problems with my old laptop, like not being able to set CPU frequency to a higher value etc.
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>>60606786
not really.
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>>60606541
>there is a system function
>some program depends on it
>systemd absorbs that system function. Original provider is removed as it conflicts with systemd. Now you can only get that function through systemd
>now that program depends on systemd
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>>60606855
>program xy is successful, people like it and adopt it into distros
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KILL PROGRAM XY
>>
Why do more people not use fedora? It's one of the few distro where things actually work.
>>
>>60606889
same happend with oss, then with alsa, then with pulse
>pulse is cancer, too many packages depend on it
>audio freedom when?
heh
>>
>>60606901
Red Hat cancer.
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>>60606901
botnet
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>>60606901
>It's one of the few distro where things actually work.

niceme.me
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It's stuck like this since 30 minutes t.t what do i do? Google didn't help
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>>60606925
Elaborate?
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>>60602459
>>60604752
Are you both only using ck because of muqss

I haven't compiled a kernel for over a decade (haven't needed to) but muqss is making me want to take the plunge again
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>>60606931
ctrl+c to exit it???
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>>60606938
>nsa partner company
>"fedora has strict free software guidelines"
>except for ucode that runs on kernel level KEK
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>>60606955
If i exit it wont install
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>>60606976
re-run the command to install it?
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>>60606982
I have tried already and i even rebooted but it always gets stuck there
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>>60606901
There's no reason for Fedora to exist other than being RHEL testbed. It became a major distro only due to "enterprise ready", "we are first" and other stupid buzzword marketing. The user repos are a ghost town, community riddled with "Open Source" tippers.
>>
>>60602294
denuvo?
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>>60606967
never understood this, whats the point with being anal about free software packages, but making exceptions?
>inb4 people want their computers to work
if they target these people, then why not simply drop the guidelines?
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>>60607053
>appeal to the authority

I heard some big name came out as gay. Why aren't you sucking cock yet?
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>>60607053
wtf i love fedora now
>>
>>60607053
Linus is a huge faggot.
>>
>"we beat Arch with Gnome 3.24"
>"rolling-release"
>"bleeding-edge"
>MOZILLA FIREFOX 52
>FIFTY-FUCKING-TWO

Even Debian has access to 53. No wonder why nobody uses this shit.

Anyways, I tend to prefer older distributions. How to watch Netflix with pre-53 Firefox? And no, I'm not installing Chrome.
>>
>fedora being a piece of shit
>decide to try manjaro since /g/ hates it constantly.
>try the i3 version maintained by one of the devs
>completely broken piece of shit
Lets try the KDE version! What could possibly go wrong.
>>
>>60607075
>How to watch Netflix with pre-53 Firefox?

stop watching, using or paying for Netflix, enemies of freedom.

https://defectivebydesign.org/netflix

also installing the latest FF from mozilla is quite painless. Download the tar.bz2, unpack it in your home and add a shortcut to your desktop/applications menu/launcher/whatever you use. It can update itself later.
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>>60606901
i find it easy honestly, less headaches than every debian and buntu based distro.

>>60606967
it ships with nothing closed source? I dont get it, so they work with the nsa, nothing ships with a botnet built in though, and we can verify it because its open source.
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>>60607107
This is the only computer in the house and my girlfriend wants to watch Netflix. I'm already using an Android phone, my freedoms are long gone.

>inb4 why even use GNU/Linux
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>>60607053
also a microsoft windows user
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>>60607125
Fedora has strict guidelines; packages must be free software, but it makes exceptions for nonfree drivers, which are loaded into Linux.

That said, Ubuntu and other distros do the same, but they don't have these (hypocratic) free software guidelines.
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>>60607155
tough shit then.

Consider the "official tar.bz2 from getfirefox.com" method I suggested then. Just remove the old FF your distro installed so they won't conflict.
>>
>>60607075
What are you talking about?
>>
>>60607053
>that smug
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>>60607172
I'll try that on the next Distribution then. I am currently on a live USB with no operating system. Wonder which one should I install..
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>>60607186
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. They brag for getting major GNOME/KDE patches in faster than Arch, yet they are stuck with Firefox 52.

And no, I don't want to go back to Arch.
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Hey /g/uys, I'm in hurry and have no time for distro hopping and all that. Please recommend me the best distro, so I can install it and go on with my life. Thanks in advance!
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>>60607162
that doesnt make it bad to use fedora though since its just a small management issue.
>>
Is Gentoo installation easier through Ubuntu live medium? I can just partition with GParted or whatever if I'm feeling lazy, right?
>>
>>60607245
gentoo is a stepping stone
>>
>>60607238
gentoo linux
>>
>>60607245
you can partition with any tool you like, doesn't have to be from the gentoo live disc
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>>60607238
>>
>>60607257
GNU/Linux*
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>>60607245
not easier much, just more convenient especially if that's your only computer.
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>>60607238
Debian
>>
>>60607238
GuixSD
>>
>>60607238
Linux Torvalds
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>>60607238
honestly? https://elementary.io/
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>>60607238
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>60607330
its whole point is looking nice (no other focus) yet it still doesnt ship with nice looks.
>>
>>60607339
Gentoo or Source Mage? I'm convinced that Gentoo is actually a rock-solid distribution and Source Mage is a meme.
>>
>>60607350
Can I be a meme?
>>
>>60607362
milhouse pls
>>
What distro is /fglt/ using?
>>
>>60607393
The best.
>>
>>60607393
see
>>60607279
>>60607266
>>
>>60607419
stable, testing or unstable?
>>
>>60607266
Agreed, best for startes
>>
>>60607433
sid desktop, stable server
>>
Wow visual studio is open source. Is it fine for privacy though? If not is there a fork for it?
>>
>>60607342
comparing to what? your obsolete terminal? live with your time, kid.
>>
What do you guys think about OpenSUSE? Is it a good distro to use?
>>
Seriously whats better, vim or emacs?
>>
>>60607558
let's settle this once and for all

vim

now stop talking about it
>>
>>60607555

see
>>60607075

Also, it\s really fucking bloated
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>>60607640
I know but is there anything more bad about it?
>>
>>60607558
Both are great.
>>
>>60607558
vim is a text editor, emacs is a enviroment build around a lisp machine
>>
>>60607647
If you go with Tumbleweed, Nvidia drivers are a pain in the ass. Other than that, no, it\s one of the best if you want to get shit done and can ignore the bloat.
>>
>>60607675
I see, thank you very much
>>
A is for awk, which runs like a snail, and
B is for biff, which reads all your mail.
C is for cc, as hackers recall, while
D is for dd, the command that does all.
E is for emacs, which rebinds your keys, and
F is for fsck, which rebuilds your trees.
G is for grep, a clever detective, while
H is for halt, which may seem defective.
I is for indent, which rarely amuses, and
J is for join, which nobody uses.
K is for kill, which makes you the boss, while
L is for lex, which is missing from DOS.
M is for more, from which less was begot, and
N is for nice, which it really is not.
O is for od, which prints out things nice, while
P is for passwd, which reads in strings twice.
Q is for quota, a Berkeley-type fable, and
R is for ranlib, for sorting ar table.
S is for spell, which attempts to belittle, while
T is for true, which does very little.
U is for uniq, which is used after sort, and
V is for vi, which is hard to abort.
W is for whoami, which tells you your name, while
X is, well, X, of dubious fame.
Y is for yes, which makes an impression, and
Z is for zcat, which handles compression.
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>>60607433
what this man said
>>60607469
>>
>>60607751
C-x C-s'd.
>>
GNOME + awesomewm or XFCE + awesomewm on a 1440p screen?

I want compositing and a GUI to manage external screens (TVs and monitors) so I can plug and play and not mess around with xrandr.
>>
just use the tty guys, gui is bloat
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>>60607835
>awesomewm
hmm

gnome shell and awesome imo, but why awesome
>>
http://www.rgbchallenge.com/
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>tfw installing gentoo with gnome + systemd
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>>60608017
>gentoo with gnome + systemd
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Which vim plugins should I check out?
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>>60608017
>gnome
X or Wayland?
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>>60608017
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>>60608157
>>>/a/
>>
>>60608161
>>>/normieville/
>>
>>60608142
Would have been X but I just wanted to trigger you guys.

I'm actually going with MATE. It's my first Gentoo btw. Relatively new to loonix.
>>
Guys please help me out. What's the best way to restore a mysql master-master replication on a different server cluster?
>recreate the master-master replication and import the mysql dump
or
>create master-slave import the dump and and create master-slave on the other node?
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>>60608176
>master-slave
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING
>>
>>60608176
delet this
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>>60605135
bump
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>>60608212
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>60608183
>>60608199
Hm? What's the problem?
>>
>>60608224
>>60605135
bump? also its a friendly thread so no bully.
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>>60608176
please use the terms parent and child
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>>60608281
Oh god, if you can't help why do you even bother to answer...
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>>60608302
god is a social construct
>>
>>60608319
real talk if gender is a social construct then how can women be oppressed and men be violent / ruling?
>>
>>60608339
sex is not the same as gender anon
>>
>>60608339
Men have the priviliege of being strong and women are weak, therefore they deserve special threatment in order to be qual to men.
>>
>>60602459
>>60604752
Answer me please
>>60606952
>>
>>60608361
so its in a persons nature to be suppressive / suppressant as prescribed by their seÑ…?
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>>60608339
Real talk is overrated, the universe expands anyway.
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>>60608420
Where does it expand to?
If it expands, that means it has a single point of origin, right?
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>>60608420
*tips fedora 25

>>60608442
universe expansion is a physics construct, philosophy tells us the natural sciences can only be an observation from our tier of exsistance, mearly a spec within a true set of rules
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>>60608517
>tfw redpilled about the universe and all
>>
good thread
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>>60608574
i didnt double major in aboriginal health studies and philosophy for nothing.
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>>60604638
It's the one I'm using.

The author might have fucked up.
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>>60608517
Whether it's a construct or not, it's real and happening
>>
>>60608142
Wayland if using Gnome, no doubt question about it.
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>>60608183
>>60608199
I really hope you two are joking.
>>
I have a rather strange problem. On all distros I've tried, my laptop (dell xps) caps lock key is inverted- it types caps when the light is off and types normally when the light is on. is there anything I can do about it?
>>
Can we get a new tux logo already? gnu/linux is usually only represented by tux on websites and when paired next to apple and window it looks unprofessional
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>>60602218
bump 4 gawk, i just made script that edits /g/code 4 my reprap. (Z axis missed steps).

tmp=$(mktemp)
awk '{if ($2 ~ /^Z/) {print $1,$2,"F100"} else {print $0}}' "$1" > $tmp
cat $tmp > "$1"
rm $tmp
xmessage -nearmouse 'ten skrypt to prowizorka, napraw Z leniwcu!'

HEIL STALLMAN!
>>
If anyone here is using just a tiling WM, which one are you using?
>>60608761
Make one. Tux is a faggot, I prefer even that stupid blowfish. The mascot should be a dragon tbfh.
>>
>>60608777
Please quote your variables.
>>
>>60608736
>>60608736
not that long ago someone made a big stink in the industry that master/slave terminology was offensive and there was a push to change it. this is the world we live in
>>
>>60608781
sure, i agree that a penguin is a shitty logo, a dragon isnt very good for identifiable logos, we need something definitive but distinct from afar
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>>60608761
>>
>install kde
>it has perfect useability, bugs and crashes make it unuseable
>install gnome
>you have to install a million extensions and third party applications to configure basic shit like autohiding the hideous top bar
>the vast majority of distros use it as default
No wonder you autists love WMs, DEs are either buggy, unusable or are based on DEs from 10 years ago
>>
I will have to reinstall Ubuntu.

Which should I pick?

GNOME (My prev and only experience)

KDE

Something else?
>>
>>60608911
lubuntu for maximum performance
>>
>>60608838
nice memes
I've experienced literally 0 bugs in plasma aftter using it for a year on my desktop.
My laptop runs gnome. The only extensions I actually care about are user shell themes and topicons plus.
>>
Hey, I'm going to dual boot kubuntu and windows 10.
I'm gonna use Kubuntu to learn stuff about linux and programming, and I'm going to use windows to play games.

My question is:
Is it bettere if I do my normal stuff (browsing internet, watching films, regular crap) on windows or on kubuntu, and why?
>>
>>60608959
yes. gnu/linux systems are often more secure, much easier to install / update software, normally has a speed improvement over windows. but then again you should try it out to see if you prefer it or not
>>
>>60608911
I personally like KDE. As other anonz says its kinda buggy but still awesome. You MUST try klipper actions!
>>
>>60608924
My computer literally reboots because of this shit. I can't even use mpv anymore.
May 27 00:19:03 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 46748, resource id: 35670564, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0 
May 27 00:19:03 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22727, resource id: 62914562, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22832, resource id: 4194309, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 22980, resource id: 62914562, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:04 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 23144, resource id: 4194309, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:07 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 49201, resource id: 35682128, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0
May 27 00:19:07 user kwin_x11[857]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9 (BadDrawable), sequence: 49202, resource id: 35682128, major code: 14 (GetGeometry), minor code: 0
May 27 00:19:07 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 23423, resource id: 65011728, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
May 27 00:19:07 user plasmashell[862]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 2 (BadValue), sequence: 23442, resource id: 4194309, major code: 142 (Unknown), minor code: 3
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>>60608967
What do you mean, yes?
You're saying i should keep my regular stuff on kubuntu? and leave windows only for games?
>>
>>60609000
i gave points for using regular things on kubuntu
realised after i posted that i said yes to the question but you should be able to figure it out based on what points i made
>>
>>60608176
Anyone?
>>
>>60609000
>only for games
Yes.
Games and photoshop is only reason this meme still exist.
>>
>>60609058
>master-slave
don't you shame yourself for posting
>>
>>60609062
learn2gimp nigger
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>>60609058
>>stack_overflow
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>>60602218
Does pacman have a system similar to apt-pinning?

Using manjaro and really enjoy it, but I'd like to get the most recent versions of the nvidia driver so I can test a few bugs I've been having, but not at the expense of using the testing repository
>>
>>60609076
I use /g/entoo/kde, debian/lxde, raspbian/minimal(backup server) and i men why goims use wi***ws ;)
>>
>>60608749
Doesn't happen in BIOS or other OS? Might be stuck shift key. Otherwise you can use xmodmap
>>
>>60609147
install gentoo
>>
Is there any way in GIMP to make it so I can't move items outside the canvas?
>>
>>60609232
define the frame
>>
>>60609304
but how
>>
on screen keyboard?
>>
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>>60609421
yes!
>>
What type of encryption is used when i choose to encrypt my disk? Using fedora if that matters. Also i chose to encrypt my home folder too, so does that mean youd need two passwords to access my home folder? I dont get it since you could just boot with the encryption password then change the root password and get into the user folders
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>find cool project on github
>no dependency list
>no INSTALL
>no README
>not even a LICENSE
>need to hunt requirements down on my own
>not allowed to share modifications with others
open source was a mistake
>>
>>60609892
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
>>
>>60609892
It's not open source fault that the developers were that lazy, probably some idiotic code monkey.
>>
Vanilla linux contains propierary code doesnt it? so how can you use it for secure systems like tails?
>>
>>60609921
linux-libre removes all non-free components
>>
>>60609935
yet tails in particluar still uses vanilla
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>>60609892
>find cool project on github
>no actual code
>>
Hi /fglt/, winfag about to switch here, what is this I have heard about compiling a program to your CPU for extra performance?
>>
>>60609989
pure horror, people have no idea how fucking large a repo can get when they push and delete wallpapers and binaries all the time
>>
>>60610039
You could get a performance boost by tailoring it to your processor, but results will vary. Usually it's fine to use the precompiled binaries from the repos unless there is a feature you really don't want it to come with.
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>>60609892
>find cool project on github
>it's just an aur package build
>>
>>60610039
If you compile certain programs optimized for your processor, you can get sometimes considerable speed increase.

These are usually cryptography, encoder/decoder, 3D and similar programs which have to do a lot of math.
>>
>>60610144
what programs would you suggest compiling to test if i can get gains? i have an 8 core fx8350 and am curious about getting those double speed gains
>>
>>60610039
its a meme
>>
>>60606143
This, Devuan is GOAT
>>
>>60607350
not a meme
>>
>>60610180
it's a meme
>>
what's wrong with systemd? why are there distros without? isnt systemd free?
>>
Is account creation for the wiki still disabled?
>>
>>60610302
only for devuan shills
>>
>>60610265
systemD (système Diable) is free but doesnt follow a really old standard. Its only available for linux so if you develope for it you limit yourself to linux (see gnome 3 how it was dependant on systemd for a while). Because it does so much its also a securitytt concern.
>>
>>60610265
>>>/b/
fuck off

at this point this is trollign/baiting, plain and simple
>>
Quick, someone make a thread before the sourcemage guys make it to the first post :^)
>>
tripscheckem: >>60610333
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>>60609147
The "testing" repository is just Arch stable.
>>
>>60610464
yeah, I know that. I just don't really want to use arch stable/manjaro testing for drivers.

I find it too hard to keep things stable on my desktop, even though I use arch on my laptop.
>>
>>60608001
Because to me it is the most intuitive and easy to use wm with sane defaults. I just find it very comfortable.

Also, I'm used to it by now.
>>
>>60606171
>>60606148
Anyone know how it looks with ARM?
sauce?
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>>60608399
In part, its also a realtime kernel and that brings in other performance options as well as bfq.
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