/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Richard Stallman is a Communist

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try sourcemage

How do I get into ricing my DE?
I'm still fairly new to Linux and don't know anything about customization.
I'm using stock XFCE at the moment and want to make it not look like garbage.
Should I just start with changing themes and/or making panels?
Any programs I should install for animations or something?
Are there any guides I should look up?

>>60565152
no u

Repost >>60564431

Can anyone give me an example of when access to "bleeding edge" packages have actually made a difference to the software you are using, like you managed to get something done with the "bleeding edge" packages you wouldn't have otherwise?

>>60565189
Try it in a virtual machine, is nothing hard. You may want to borrow a couple pages from other wikis like gentoo's, specifically the partitioning. I made this list of frequently used commands https://pastebin.com/tA09k8Rq

You should probably type then in order the first time except for the kernel recompilation, kernel compilation is obviously optional

>>60565253
If you really gotta try the latest features now and don't want to wait for example in debian wait for it to come from testing to stable bleeding edge has it's benefits.

>>60565288
This, some missing features in MPV let me confused and in sorrow when I used Debian

Just installed Manjaro i3 (community edition), I'm pretty happy so far. First time going beyond a VM.

>>60565253
When Daiz decided to fuck up anime fansubbing, getting the latest ffmpeg+h.264+mplayer2 available in portage helped a lot.

When XFCE 4.10 was released and i upgraded it it from debian experimental it was awesome.

The Linux kernel (as seen on kernel.org) often brings great improvements for new hardware (especially VGA cards) such as performance and power management improvements and improves existing, widely used technologies like ext4. I remember there was a good ext4 speedup somewhere in 3.x

>>60565127
Fix Fonts:
https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221

BEFORE YOUR DISTRO QUESTION
Read
>I want a "lightweight" distro (no bloat / base only)
>Not Arch or Gentoo

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:

apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm gnome-themes-standard breeze-icon-theme

>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage tty - 25mb, i3wm ~ 50mb

=====================
ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD
=====================
1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot script inspiration BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter

init=/usr/bin/runit-init

4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference

pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd

>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds

>>60565189
If you wonder what's the point you probably need to rethink why would you need a source based distro anyway, like, do you really need the latest kernel available? The guys at SourceMage had kernels the same day they went available.

Other than that is probably one of the best distros to test new software because you can recompile everything to fit one particular setup, you can even make a "spell" to automate the installation of your software if you are a developer.

There you have two use cases.

>>60565383
I appreciate pasta like this, and wonder why isn't everybody else welcome the free knowledge tidbit

on latest Arch x64

I'm using tint2 and OpenBox for a desktop experience, but am lacking something for launching programs in a reasonable way (currently using %command% & and keeping the urxvt open) and a file explorer (should I just install nautilus?)

I really only feel like I need a file explorer when a website requires that I 'drag and drop' something and does not provide a browse button, or if I wanted to open something in chrome, etc.

What should I get?

ip link add name br0 type bridge
ip addr add 172.20.0.1/16 dev br0
ip link set br0 up
dnsmasq --interface=br0 --bind-interfaces --dhcp-range=172.20.0.2,172.20.255.254

modprobe tun
ip tuntap add dev tap0 mode tap user micah
ip link set tap0 up promisc on
ip link set tap0 master br0

sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
sysctl net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding=1
sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o enp0s20f0u1 -j MASQUERADE
iptables -A FORWARD -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i tap0 -o enp0s20f0u1 -j ACCEPT

Why does my VM not see br0 or have it as a network interface?

>>60565127
Play YouTube videos (or audio) with 2 clicks?
>useful if you don't have/want pulse

>Video

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvv.desktop

Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio[abr>128]/bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio/best[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]/best[height<=720]/best" --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui -- "$(sselp)"

>Audio only (with thumbnail)

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpva.desktop

Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" --no-cache --no-sub-auto --no-stop-screensaver --script-opts=osc-visibility=always --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui --external-file="$(youtube-dl --get-thumbnail "$(sselp)")" --autofit-smaller=960x480 -- "$(sselp)"

>Download music?

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvd.desktop

Exec=st -g 100x20 -e youtube-dl -xf "bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" -o '~/Music/%(title)s.%(ext)s' "$(sselp)"

Add to your panel(s)
>Copy Link Location
and click

> Icon=
- icons/breeze/actions/22/ im-youtube.svg kdenlive-show-video.svg
- icons/breeze/places/22/ folder-download.svg folder-music.svg

st.suckless.org
tools.suckless.org/x/sselp

recommend me a gnu/linux distro to do some torrenting with? im familiar with fedora 25 workstation and would use that + installing vuze but less resource usage is really preferable here

there is no os on that device currently, and it doesn't have to be a live cd. i dont want to spend a whole bunch of time getting it ready either so while >install gentoo + rtorrent would be light on resources eventually it isnt really an option

there must be something perfect for me, no?

>>60565458
wtf? just use your fucking browser

>>60565507
gentoo

>>60565340
welcome newfriend

>>60565465
dmenu

>>60565507
for a server try Devuan netinstall if you are familiar with the terminal, or choose LXDE during the installation

>>60565507
Headless Arch with transmission web interface, that way you could manage torrents from your phone/tablet/another pc

I'm thinking of installing a Linux OS on my phone, is this a good idea? I've had it on my laptop and desktop computers for two years.

>>60565572
>Arch
you can bet he doesn't need the AUR here, let him use a netinstall instead

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>>60565548
>just use your fucking browser

>>60565585
Try LineageOS with F-Droid to download Termux, you'll get the smooth experience with the command like still at hand anytime you want

>>60565591
Antergos has a netinstall option, and transmission is not in the official repositories.

>>60565661
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it right now

>>60565681
why would anybody install arch for something as simple as torrenting? Just go for debian stable netinstall with i3. It just werks.

>>60565681
This is one of those case where anything Arch is just problems and anything Debian has more solutions, see >>60565705

>>60565705
>>60565722
Well, shit if you're that adamant on simplicity and stability, why not use Openwrt. Antergos simply isn't that complicated if you follow directions, but to each his own.

>>60565746
It's literally bleeding edge. The only updates this anon should need is the occasional qbittorrent update.

>>60565127
Who is this unfriendly looking person?

>>60565895
Linus Torvald who is known for his temper, he's known to go internet tough guy when behind a computer.

>>60565895
Linux Torvalx.

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>>60565913
>'s known to go internet tough guy when behind a computer
true story

>>60565895
"You're all a bunch of Wanking Walruses. And you can quote me on that."
-- Linus Benedict Torvalds

Should I fuck with RAID 1 if I'm backing up offsite anyway? Availability isn't really a concern.

>>60566004
I was just reading this https://opensource.com/life/16/7/linux-theoretical-physics

id Tech 4? Godot? Urho3D? The best known libraries are OpenGL (+ GLFW), OpenAL, OpenCL, and Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL).

Vulkan is supposed to be the future though. Also use Blender, that thing is pretty rad.

>>60565568
dmenu is perfect, thank you anon

>>60565976
Someone made a collection of insults: http://flossdata.syr.edu/data/insults/

>>60566102
Try dmenu2, same tool without suckless insanity.

>>60566115
>WRONG. Alan
bookmarked, I like his writing style :^)

>>60566115
>f*ck
>sh*t
ewwwww

>>60566115
Just watching a video of him. He says proh-jects instead of projects what the FUCK?

>>60565340
Manjaro is a good choice. The i3 community edition has some weird default behaviors though. Nothing that a quick run through of the conf can't fix though. It is quite a bit different than normal i3 behavior.

>>60566206
maybe because he is finnish?

>>60566206
and he says debiah-n

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what did he mean by this

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>>60566102
Consider rofi. dmenu is deprecated and all but abandoned.

>>60566245
what sort of behaviors would you recommend taking a closer look at?

Any cinnamon users here? Is there a visual guide somewhere that shows what cinnamon.css elements corrospond to what parts of the UI (specifically the panel).

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Hello, /g/. I'm looking for an extremely stable distribution for programming, game development and normie shit (Spotify, Netflix). I don't give a crap about "bleeding-edge" software, I believe programs just get worse and bloated as time passes by. Just look at Windows software like Spotify, Foobar, Daemon Tools, F.Lux etcetera. I do, however, believe in Kernel and security updates and I need to keep some software up-to-date (f.ex. Firefox and my game engine of choice). I don't mind compiling some of the software.

I'm currently thinking of pic related, Salix, Debian, CentOS or Gentoo. These any good?

>>60566375
stick to windows

>>60566375
If you have the experience Slackware was recommended a few times for exactly what you are asking

>>60566375
Currently using Debian stable which is a good mixture of stability and has the option to install newer software (than slackware). No complaints whatsoever. I don't know about game development though, you'll have to get a second opinion.

>>60566375
Debian

>>60566406
inane

>>60566487
You are now aware that /fglt/ are really using Windows and Linux VMs. Linux is a cool toy, but for real computing just use Windows.

>>60566281
Since when? dmenu works.

>>60566514
WRONG, Alan

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>>60566514
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60566514
>winfags actually believe this
it's worse than talking to trump supporters

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fucc
Is that CPU dead?

>>60566545
dumb stallman poster

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>>60566514

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>>60566514
LOL!

>>60566596
where can I buy a linux laptop?

>>60566301
One thing I remember that stands out is that when you mod+shift+# that it sends the window AND you to the workspace which is strange. Another thing is that scrolling on the bar to switch workspaces was disabled. Also the bar is big as fuck. There were quite a few other things also but i didn't spend a whole lot of time with it. The only reason I know about it is because I stole the configs from it and edited them to my liking because I liked some things about it and didn't know how to accomplish them. I never actually installed it. I no longer use that though. I'm just using a config edited from vanilla now. BUT I did learn a lot about what you can do with i3 by studying their config.

>>60566517
Yeah. It works and I used to defend dmenu too. But rofi is the future. The biggest thing that caused me to second guess dmenu (and suckless altogether) is that they went in after essentially years of abandonment and changed the version number for no other reason than to make it seem like it was in active development. There had been no changes (besides the version).

>>60566627
I heard System76 has pretty good offers

>>60566134
this

>>60566627
I think dell offers their high-end ultrabooks with a GNU/Linux option

>>60566640
So you have no real arguments against dmenu?

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Reminder that serious work is done here https://opensource.com/life/16/7/linux-theoretical-physics

>>60566627
You can't go wrong with System76.

>>60566627
GNU/Linux*

>>60566664
I do get an impression they have sager/clevo build quality

>>60566406
I haven't used Windows for years. I'm currently on Debain Testing and used Arch for the past year and Ubuntu/Mint before Arch. I can't stand Windows, especially Windows 10.

>>60566437
I think I might. I've tried most distributions, with the exception of Gentoo. I'll probably give Arch a shot.

>>60566464
>>60566447
This is probably the best answer but I just don't want to admit it because it's boring. I'm typing this on Debian Testing and honestly, I have no real reason to switch. I am just curious about Slackware and Gentoo. If I decide to stay with Debian I'm going to use Testing until Stretch is released and stick with Stable after.

lmao, the "linux is not ready for the desktop" rant page is now spam filtered

based

>>60566627
Check here too https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html

Always ask your seller if it has the certification "Respects Your Freedom".

>>60566692
*copy pasta

>>60566689
I'll probably give Slack a shot*

>>60566692
/g/ generally needs proper moderation.
This place been really fucking shit in the last year

>>60566692
Good thing. Was spammed long enough.
>>60566707
Nah, it's actually a website:
https://itvision.altervista org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

>>60566659
It works fine and I actually still have it installed and mapped to mod+d but I use rofi at mod+p for run and mod+w for window list. The devs are shady though. Honestly I used to defend them until I investigated them myself and saw some dumb shit they were doing. For one, why change the version number after 4 years of no development and no changes?

>>60566627
My friend swears by System 76 for Linux laptops.

I move an icon theme, say Numix Square, to my /usr/share/icons folder, open up xfce settings to try and set it, and when I do half of the icons are missing. I know this is a complete icon theme so there is something wrong going on. Is there some sort of gtk theme engine thing I need to install or something? I am on Gentoo if it matters

>>60566739
>Linux laptop
no such thing

>>60566739
How much are you being paid?

>>60565465
dmenu for launcher, pcmanfm or thunar for file manager

>>60566743
use ~/icons

>>60566743
Numix Square is only the applications icon theme.
You'd know if you read the description.
It needs the "base" Numix theme to fallback for folders and mimetypes

>>60566751
>implying Linux isn't an operating system

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>>60566739
>>60566664
>>60566644

>>60566751
They literally make hardware intended to run Linux.

>>60566756
>dmenu
>recommending deprecated software
opinion discarded

>>60566761
~/.icons

>>60566756
>pcmanfm or thunar
I can't actually tell the difference between thunar and pcmanfm. They are exactly the same as far as I can tell.

>>60566769
But the same thing happens for other icon themes i download..

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>>60566772
>Mail me at "[email protected]" if you have any questions.

>Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you
>need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may
>be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used
>with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft. These tools
>aren't in the distribution - ask me (or GNU) for more info.

>http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/historical/kernel/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01

>>60566805
does Linus answer every mail like rms?

>>60566805
>implying that the full operating system with the "Linux" kernel still isn't Linux

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>>60566828
Linux is the desktop version of Android.

>>60566805
>linux torvalds
kek

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>>60566828
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60566736
You're just repeating the same argument. I agree it's dumb, but not a real problem

>>60566875
Yeah. And I said it works fine.

>>60566874
>implying the OS isn't called Linux too

>>60566874
>no shoes
confirmed homeless

>>60566894
It was so he could eat something off his foot

>>60566894
It's called getting comfy.
Do you even enjoy life.

>>60566889
So you're using rofi because dmenu works?

>>60566937
I like rofi better anyways but I never would have even tried it if the suckless devs weren't shady bastards.

What should I use to extract .zip files?

>>60566975
dmenu is made by suckless?

>>60566980
gunzip

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>>60566730
lel

>>60566990
atool , or xarchiver for GUI

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>>60566990
Yes. http://git.suckless.org/dmenu

>>60566980
a computer

>>60567017
That's the only tool they got righy.

>>60567043
No they didn't. There were even so autisic not giving dmenu a simple window class.

>>60567043
I use it with Ratpoison as window switcher and application launcher

>>60567053
A window class? What for?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

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>>60565127
>Ganoo

>>60567081
>>60567053
>>60567043
>>60567017
>>60567019
If they are so great where is the suckless distribution at?
>inb4 abandoned project

>>60567095
ideal to post webms on 4cchins

#avi to webm without sound
avconv -i magical.avi -an -c:v libvpx -qmin 0 -qmax 40 -c:a libvorbis -crf 16 -b:v 4M out.webm

>>60567105
>implying
I don't care about them having a distro tbqh

>>60567135
This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility.
Use ffmpeg instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).

>>60567135
>ideal to post webms on 4cchins
>modifying your media to tailor it to 4chan because it doesn't allow sound in webms for no good reason
God damn that's fucking dumb

>>60567153
I am stuck for a while with avconv

>>60567095

for h in {-4096..4096..200};{ for g in {-8192..4096..115};{ x=0;y=0;for((i=0;i<30&&x*x+y*y<1<<26;i++));{((v=((x*x-y*y)>>12)+g));((y=((x*y)>>11)+h));x=$v;};d=$[i%10];printf "\e[3${d}m$d\e[m";};echo;}

Tryign to build an rpm
Why is this so difficult

>>60567248
What? RPM is probably the easiest one to build and maintain.
God I wish deb had SPEC files

okay buddy.
you want to tell me whats wrong then? Theres no easily accessible syntax guide

>>60567248
God damnit I fucking hate that Fedora sold out to Microsoft. It was one of my favorite distributions too.

>>60567438
Whom are you speaking to?

And I'm beginning to doubt the usefulness. if i compile an rpm for some obscure language can anyone install it without that language on their os?

>>60567496
see >>60567459

>>60567514
what are you on about are you one of the britbongs

Is there some kind of service or something where you can pay (or do this for free) to have someone with more powerful hardware compile a gentoo system specific to your hardware and give it to you?

>>60567603
Yes,its called a binary

>>60567603
this is called using a binary package manager.

>>60567621
>>60567636
>specific to hardware
>binary
kek

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>>60565166
I would simply like to interject for one short while. What you're alluding to as Linux, is, GNU/Linux, or as I have not long ago startedcalling it, GNU + Linux. Linux isn't an operating setup on its own, but actually another free part of a completely working GNU setup fashioned into something of service by the GNU corelibs, shell facilities and necessary setup components fulfilling a full OS as defined by POSIX.

A sizeable amount of computer holders run a subspecies of the original setup everyday, but do not realize. By a particular series of events, the version of GNU that is being broadly utilized now is often called "Linux", and a substantial number of its holders are not aware that it is basically the GNU setup, created by GNU.

There is in fact a Linux, and this population do have it installed, but it is simply a part of the setup they use. Linux is a kernel: the program in the setup that distributes the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is a necessary part of an operating setup, but cannot work on its own; it is only operational in the shadow of a complete operating setup. Linux is most commonly utilized in combination with the GNU operating setup: the whole setup is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. Every one of the supposed "Linux" distros are really distros of GNU/Linux.

>>60567654
dumb stallman pasta poster

Is the hardest part about Arch Linux the installation? Is it a normal distro after that step?

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>>60567642

>>60567678
That's just the kernel, what about the userspace?

>>60567677
Not telling everyone on the intenet that you are using it.

>>60567677
The arch installation process is not hard.
It its only as hard as you make it on your self for not reading or taking an active part.
It is what you make it

>>60567603
Dont use gentoo

>>60567778
>t. archfag

>>60567603
you need to borrow processor power, use distcc for this job, also use ccache to easy the job next time

what does /fglt/ think about arch linux? is it a good distro?

>>60567822
It's a meme distro like sourcemage

>>60567822
Yes

>>60567838
do you even know what a meme is newfriend

>>60567822
Maybe the best. It has been proven over and over again that patching everything like self important retards ,a la Debian and others, serves no purpose and only introduces bugs that wouldn't exist otherwise. Vanilla packages straight from upstream is the only way to go.

>>60567822
arch linux isn't worth it, gentoo or sourcemage do a better job

>>60567871
>muh arch linux
fucking archfag

MPV freezes whenever i try and enter fullscreen. I have an intel hd 3000 for my igpu. Please help me

>>60567838
sourcemage is legit good my friend, check your facts

>>60567896
post config

>>60567899
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_Neutral_Look_at_Operating_Systems/Linux#SourceMage

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>>60567822
I have a low opinion of Arch GNU/Linux.

Arch is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Arch Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.

More importantly, Arch steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.

>>60567928
Fuck off Stallman, it's Linux, not GNU/Linux. Go back to eating your foot.

>>60567822
broken ootb, the distro

>>60567912
config is empty. Everything is default i presume

>>60567919
proves wikipedia guys are slow at edit spam, but somebody did an actual review before that giving credit to sourcemage, case closed

>>60567959
make config put

profile=opengl

in it

>>60567973
OK, in ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf ??

>>60567965
Sourcemage's package manager is written in bash, if you want a decent package manager, don't use sourcemage.

>>60567987
>Sourcemage's package manager is written in bash
That's a benefit, retard.

>>60567982
yes

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>>60567987
What distro do you use and in what is written?

>>60567987
Why do you think that is a negative?

>>60568002
No it's not. bash is a bloated piece of shit and the shell script language is cancer.

>>60568027
LOL!

>>60567987
and why exactly is that a bad thing?

>>60568027
no bash in windows

>>60568005
Got an error "Can't open profile=opengl no such file or directory, failed to open opengl

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>>60568027
>bash is a bloated piece of shit

>>60568046
>forgets about WSL

>>60565465
You can add "& disown" after your command allowing you to close your terminal emulator window without killing the program you just launched.

>>60568066
>disown
You dont need that just end it with "&"

>>60568080
do you even know what disown does

>>60568080
You do need it, retard

>>60568051
There's a reason some distros use dash as /bin/sh

What is the best anime to watch on GNU+Linux?

>>60568140
I am currently watching Berserk and Dragon Ball

>>60568140
tom & jerry

>>60568135
Give me 5 good reasons why I should use dash over bash.

>>60568195
faster, smaller, not GNU, permissively licensed, not bloated

>>60568140
original version of Fullmetal Alchemist and then Conqueror of Shamballa, brotherhood doesn't have what this one and I have great memories of the series

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>>60568202
he was the BSD troll all along, go figure

>>60567973
Hey me again. So when I set the vo=x11 i am able to enter fullscreen, however when set to opengl it freezes.

Does this mean i don't have opengl installed or something

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>>60568140

>>60568230
>give me MY source code, faggot
>no money for you
sounds like a communist

>>60568241
What gpu do you have?

>>60568202
>Faster
opinion
>smaller
opinion
>not GNU
bad
>permissive licensed
bad
>not bloated
opinion

>>60568254
I have an intel 2520M CPU with intel HD 3000. I have the xf86-video-intel drivers installed

>>60568202
>not bloated
installing an additional program when there is already a program there that does the job is bloat

>>60568202
>permissively
This meme needs to end. The only restriction the GPL imposes on developers is on the "right" to deny others the freedoms the developer enjoys.

>>60568354
don't you have to eat something from your foot?

>>60568412
LOL!

>>60568262
> >smaller
>opinion
look at the binary size, retard
> >not bloated
BUGS
It's too big and to slow

>>60568354
The GPL prevents you from using libraries that are licensed under different versions of the GPL in the same program

>>60568412
Make fun like you want, but without that concept of copyleft we wouldn't sit here.

>>60568480
Blame the people who yell "the gplv3 is cancer! no, I don't upgrade to gplv3!".

>>60568480
it doesnt

>>60568515
The GPLv3 was designed to restrict using free software in secure environments

>>60568544
It does, retard. Samba (GPLv3) can't share code with Linux (GPLv2).

>>60568546
The GPLv3 was designed to close holes in the GPLv2 that allowed to circumvent the whole licence.

Ok, I plan to install Linux, possibly Gentoo, soon.

I got 2 questions:

>1:
Someone said I can install Gentoo with something called "genkernel". I want an install that could be ported places. I don't care if it's hardware-optimised, so long as it works.

My intention was to fuck around for a few days ONCE, and then write up an automated install script to use on many different machines.
Can I use genkernel to just like automatically detect my hardware and shit? Possibly just install every single driver in case I add new stuff? More monitors, drawing pads, different mice and keyboards, etc.?

>2:
Additionally, I was told not to install SystemD.
After looking it up, I agree that it does not follow the Unix philosophy, but is there anything particularly useful I would GAIN from it if I DID install it? OR, is there anything I would LOSE if I did NOT?
>Note: I could not care less if it's bloated, as long as it works good. I'm gonna rice the living fuck outta this system anyway and have many many arbitrary gadgets, scripts, and programs running simultaneously.
In other words: If it's GOOD bloat, I'll do it; if it's NOT good bloat, maybe I'll leave it off.

>>60568546
GPL3 differs from GPL2 in following things:

1) Patents, i.e. you can't circumvent GPL3 by using GPL software as something you build your software on, but then don't share it because while source code may be available, you patent the code. It was possible with GPL2.

2) DMCA, i.e. you can't circumvent GPL3 with using DMCA which makes circumventing DRM illegal in US. It was possible with GPL2.

3) Tivoization, i.e. you can't circumvent GPL3 using digital encryption, when you release the source code, but not the necessary cryptographic keys.

In other ways, GPL3 is pretty much the same as GPL2.

>>60568282
Try profile=xv

>>60568590
>"tivoisation" prevention
Prevents you from using GPLed software in secure environments

>get bored of windows
>decide to install a flavor of Linux after getting excited over new features
>configure it to my liking, explore new programs
>something breaks and the system is no longer compatible with Windows
>say fuck this meme OS
>switch back to Windows
>cycle repeats

is Linux worth using as a daily driver on real hardware or should I streamline this process by using VMs?

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>>60568583
Pardon me for one moment. What you are calling Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I have nicknamed it, GNU plus Linux. Linux isn't an operating system by itself, but it is just another part of the GNU system, which has been extended in functionality via various GNU components (including GNU's shell utilities and corelibs) which only then fit the definition of a complete operating system as outlined by POSIX.

There are many people today who are running the GNU operating system without even being aware of it. Through a strange turn of events, a misnomer has emerged where people refer to a widely used version of the GNU system as "Linux", unaware that the proper name for the system they run is the GNU operating system.

Now while they are in fact using Linux, it is only one component of the system that they run. Linux is used as the kernel: the part of an operating system which distributes a machine's resources to other programs which request them. While this functionality is essential for the successful functioning of a system, it cannot function on its own, it needs an operating system within which it can carry out its functions. Linux is commonly paired with the GNU operating system: the entirety of the system is GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every single "Linux Distribution" is actually a distribution of GNU/Linux.

>>60568626
Go back to me eating your foot

>>60568626
Fuck off with your Willy-Wonka-looking Richard Stallman pic.

I'm looking for help, not to be interjected by a foot-sore chewing greasy slob.

>>60568638
Dammit

>>60568583
>he fell for the gentoo meme
>he fell for the systemd is bad meme
the absolute madman

>>60568660
>feel for Lennart Poettering shilling

>>60568658
You should be more respectful towards the guy who made the whole thing possible so that you can sit here asking questions about it.

>>60568624
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system "Linux" is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

>>60568681
Shut up and eat your foot sores you Stallman shill

>>60568702
you know what your shit does? it divides the linux community, fuck off

BSD > Linux commies

>>60568713
He is just like all sjw that yell about respecting their pronouns. Ignore him and move on.

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>>60568713
When we ask people to say “GNU/Linux”, we are not dividing people. We are asking them to give the GNU Project credit for the GNU operating system. This does not criticize anyone or push anyone away.

However, there are people who do not like our saying this. Sometimes those people push us away in response. On occasion they are so rude that one wonders if they are intentionally trying to intimidate us into silence. It doesn't silence us, but it does tend to divide the community, so we hope you can convince them to stop.

However, this is only a secondary cause of division in our community. The largest division in the community is between people who appreciate free software as a social and ethical issue and consider proprietary software a social problem (supporters of the free software movement), and those who cite only practical benefits and present free software only as an efficient development model (the open source movement).

This disagreement is not just a matter of names—it is a matter of differing basic values. It is essential for the community to see and think about this disagreement. The names “free software” and “open source” are the banners of the two positions. See Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software.

The disagreement over values partially aligns with the amount of attention people pay to the GNU Project's role in our community. People who value freedom are more likely to call the system “GNU/Linux”, and people who learn that the system is “GNU/Linux” are more likely to pay attention to our philosophical arguments for freedom and community (which is why the choice of name for the system makes a real difference for society). However, the disagreement would probably exist even if everyone knew the system's real origin and its proper name, because the issue is a real one. It can only go away if we who value freedom either persuade everyone (which won't be easy) or are defeated entirely (let's hope not).

>>60568745
GANOO/pronouns*

>>60568660
>he fell for the systemd is bad meme
Well, if SystemD is not bad, I'll just install it. I don't care.
I wanted a legitimate argument for or against it with pros and cons.

>he fell for the gentoo meme
Well, I was mainly told it's really good for customization.
Is there a valid reason not to? Such as like I listed above: Is it not possible to install it so it is NOT hardware-locked?

>>60568681
Firstly: Linus Torvalds invented Linux. GNU just made it super-cucked.
Secondly: GNU caused a massive schism in the Unix ideology which resulted in about > 100 competing systems that are not even full Unix, whereas full Unix systems like the BSDs get neglected to Hell, so it makes them significantly more difficult to work with and with dramatically less support.
t. Tried both FreeBSD and TrueOS, and it lacks troubleshooting, support, or even threads

So, no, I will NOT respect Stallman. Linus was fine, Stallman fucked it all up.
But, to be fair: He was really hit and miss. I cannot guarantee Linus woulda actually brought the community together that way.
But, at best, in your case, it's GNU-flavoured Linux, which, potentially, may be worse than if GNU never happened, and Linux did its own thing.

>>60568760
How do foot sores taste, Stallman?

Installed Mint on a new hd a few weeks ago. Today I tried to look through my old hd that has my windows install and most of my files on it. I get a message that says error mounting and the NTFS partion is in an unsafe state. Any suggestions?

I can copy the full error text if need.

>>60568780
Linus invented Linux, the kernel, in 1991 to use it with the GNU system, which exists since 1983.

>>60568829
Make sure Windows is fully off or mount the disk in read only mode

>>60568780
Unix is a system from the 70s. What you are referring to as Unix is actually UNIX, which is a trademark, only some systems have a certificate for (for example macOS). BSD and GNU are unix-like systems. Linux is a compatible kernel.

>>60568732
LOL!

This thread is literally 99% shitposting

>>60568901
bad post

>>60568901
nice contribution.

thoughts on systemd?

>>60568931
don't take the b8

>>60568901
The ((())) guy isn't here, be happy.

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>>60568931

>>60568861
How can I make sure Windows is off? I have completely shut down the computer and turned it back on like the message suggested but have the same issue.

>>60568843
No, he invented it as a project of its own. It just became a part of GNU, because Stallman's project's kernel. Hurd, was dogshit and incomplete.

That's like saying "the desk I'm using right now was designed for meals, because I also use it to hold food while I'm at the computer"
No, GNU IMPLEMENTED Linux.
Linux also implemented a few GNU things, like the GCC, but don't gimme that bullshit. Linus did NOT work for Stallman. He was in fucking College and launched it on his University's servers.

>>60568869
macOS is a UNIX system. "Unix", however, is a philosophy, that ALSO has an OS with the same name.
Unix is the idea, System V (and etc.) were the actual implementations.

Unix (/ˈjuː.nJks/; trademarked as UNIX) is a family of multitasking, multiuser computer operating systems that derive from the original AT&T Unix, developed starting in the 1970s at the Bell Labs research center by Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, and others.[3]

>>60568965
You need to turn off fast startup in Windows

>>60568993
Hosted it, whatever.
Not launched.
>Because y'all faggitz will pick THAT out of everything else I wrote.

>>60568993
>GNU made Linux
Nice try Stallman

>>60568993
>Unix
nonfree pig disgusting

>How can I make sure Windows is off?
Just wipe it. It's literally malware.

>>60569034
>what matters isn't quality, but whether or not it is free software

>>60569068
>>60568965

>>60569072
>implying nonfree software has better quality than free software
kys

>>60569111
>implying Stallman cares about quality

>>60569132
>implying nonfree software has better quality than free software
kys

>>60569142
>implying it doesn't

>>60569142
>>60569111
some programs are actually better than the free alternatives

>>60569166
How do you know? You can't study the source code to find out - or fix a security bug.

>>60569194
But you can reverse engineer it

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>>60569166
We don't describe free software as an “alternative” to proprietary, because that word presumes all the “alternatives” are legitimate and each additional one makes users better off. In effect, it assumes that free software ought to coexist with software that does not respect users' freedom.

We believe that distribution as free software is the only ethical way to make software available for others to use. The other methods, nonfree software and Service as a Software Substitute subjugate their users. We do not think it is good to offer users those “alternatives” to free software.

>>60569228
cute feet

How can I automatically run a script when I close the laptop lid?

>>60569225
good luck with that

>>60569029
I specifically said GNU just implemented it... Somewhere along the lines, you read me wrong.

>>60569034
Non-free is fine, as long as standards, portability, and compatibility.

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Help me summon the "((()))" spammer so we can make this thread more lively!!

>>60569350
enjoy your botnet

>>60569355
No you ((((wont))))

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Where did this Linux is communism meme even start?

>>60565465
try rofi, its like dmenu but can also be integrated with anything else, I use it as
application launcher
ssh manager
password manager (rofi-pass)
you can easily write your own plugins and style it in your .Xresources

>>60569380
Microsoft shills

>>60569380
Because ((Linux)) cucks don't want you making ((money))

>>60569380
Steve Ballmer

>>60569401
"Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches."

"There's no company called Linux, there's barely a Linux road map. Yet Linux sort of springs organically from the earth. And it had, you know, the characteristics of communism that people love so very, very much about it. That is, it's free."

>>60569383
>add rofi to my keybind
>press keybind
>nothing happens
>replace rofi with demenu2
>press keybind
>it works
weeew lad

>>60567188
damn thats actually pretty cool

I just looked at Linus's G+ page and it's filled with people asking him tech support questions. In comments on pictures of anything. How does he deal with it?

>>60569541
If you have mpv, try this:
mpv avdevice://lavfi:mandelbrot

>>60569607
how to make it faster?

>>60568080
& just makes it run in the background. Disown makes it no longer dependent on your terminal being open

>>60569680
download more ram

>>60569751
LOL!

>>60569735
You can use '&' and then close the terminal and it will still run in the background.

>>60569763
Is there anything that doesn't make you laugh?

>>60569780
LOL!

>>60569516
you have to give it a modi to run...
maybe read the documentation beforehand

>>60569809
No shit
alt+f2 is my launcher keybind
it works with demenu
rofi does nothing

>>60566605
>>60568040
>>60568437
>>60568895
>>60569763
>>60569795
Who is posting this (((cancer)))

>>60569932
His name is there. That notorious Anonymous.

>>60569932
X---------D simply ebin (((refugees)))

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How do i hide the titlebar on firefox?

Using xubuntu btw

>>60570107
right click
uncheck title bar

If I install Linux on another HDD on my PC how do I choose which OS the PC is gonna boot?

>>60570107
pic saved

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>>60570120

It's not there

>>60570163
install gentoo

>>60570198
>>>/pol/

>>60570163
You need to have GRUB or any other bootloader installed on the drive that BIOS will check first

>>60570198
https://askubuntu.com/questions/37111/how-to-make-firefox-main-windows-have-no-decorations-using-devilspie
try this

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I'm tickled pink
>dad tries to fix X201 keyboard while it's on
>it sparks, won't turn back on
>mom's pissed, but we buy him an X220 to replace it
>MY X220 has a fucked keyboard connector
>on a lark, months later, just now, I plug it in and try to boot it
>it works
It's a good day
Love you lenovo

>>60570282
>>>/lgbt/

>>60570364
Thanks man!

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>>60570163
You need a bootloader and boot partition flags

>>60570198
like this?

>>60569764
No it won't. I'm at my computer right now and just tried it.

>>60570282
kys kike

>>60570591
fuck off nigger

 hi gents.  lappytop battrey dont charge. 

bought new battery and new adapter, but dont charge. what do?

was fine until i switched to GNU/Linux. 

>>60570863
sudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root

>>60570938
>sudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root
FRIENDLY linux general

>>60570955
I was helping him.

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>>60570982
For what? I'm helping!

Why are movement keys hjkl instead of jkl; in vim?

>>60571078
because your i3wm is such a retard

New thread when?

So what are some good IDEs for GNU/Lunix for programming in C++.

Eclipse id the first one that pops up in google, and the wiki recommends it. Any others I should look into?

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>GUI
>"gooey"

>>60571244
When I lay my egg on your mom

>>60571297
emacs

>>60571349
That's not an editor, that's an operating system.

>>60571319
Are you a lizard?

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>>60571360

New thread
>>60571629
>>60571629
>>60571629

>>60568785
kinda like your post

>>60570107
it's the xfwm4 theme
cp /usr/share/xfwm4/themes (or something) to ~/.themes/ and edit the themerc