>Headphone purchase advice http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

repostan from last thread
i bought myself philips fidelio m2bt:s for 150 euroshekels. i needed something i could use in public without looking like a massive autist (as i found out my akg k7xx:s do exactly this). How'd i do /hpg/?

>>60564909
>snap

Subtle, and triggered.

>>>60563704
>[Sennheiser] closed headphones are garbage.

Why do people say this? I really like my HD598Cs and HD 380 Pro. What are they hearing that I'm not?

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Anyone tried snapheiser HD 461?
Need some comfortable lightweight over ear """cans""" for office use.

>>60565082
>HD 598Cs
Kek. Please never recommend this muddy piece of garbage.

>>60565082
>HD598C

They are absolutely disgusting. I'm not being funny, but you mustn't have tried decent headphones before.

>>60565199
>>60565214

Mentally ill anon, go fucking outside.

This thread is another cancer. You've destroyed /hpg/.

Kill yourself you mentally ill piece of shit.

Can someone recommend me a DAC+AMP?
I live in the US, and will only use it on my desktop.
>Budget: less than $500

>Repostan

>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
All day driver
>Sound signature
Neutral

Need either extremely good isolating IEMs or active noise cancelling to preserve hearing.

>>60565285
NFB-11

>>60565233
Instead of being so easily triggered of anything against Sennheiser, why don't you stop being so fucking delusional instead?

>>60565233
What the fuck are you talking about lmao. They are genuinely terrible headphones. Are you going to cry?

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What about some S2?

>>60565082
They sound muddy as fuck, I say this as a HD600 shill too.

>>60565437
Does that tube plug straight into your mind?

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>>60565437

>>60565477
This. I own the 600's and the HD598C is absolute garbage. Genuinely the worst 'expensive' headphone I have ever heard.

>>60565214
>>60565199
My hearing must be shot or something, because I didn't hear the mud you're complaining about, and when I tried a friend's HD600 w. Schiit stack I didn't hear a big improvement.

I have heard something I'd describe as muddy with super cheap headphones like the MDR-ZX100 - a lack of clarity with the different sounds kinda blending together. Is that what you're talking about?

I do think the HD 380 Pro is better than the 598Cs, but I find them both acceptable.

>>60565082
Bass bias. I suspect a lot of the closed ear Sennheisers are being aimed more at the Beats crowd. HD598Cs are advertised with a frequency range of 10-28000Hz which is lops off a good portion of the higher ranges that equivalently priced headphones can reach.

>>60565544
>when I tried a friend's HD600 w. Schiit stack I didn't hear a big improvement.
I think your hearing IS shot

>>60565544
I didn't mention the word muddy, that other guy did. Honestly if you owned the 600's, or even used them for two days straight, then switched to the HD598C, you would absolutely know what we're talking about. Everyone has an opinion, and there are many cheap headphones that sound good for the money, but the HD598C honestly sound vile.

>>60565556
>a frequency range of 10-28000Hz which is lops off a good portion of the higher ranges

>commonly stated range of human hearing is 20 Hz to 20 kHz.

???

>>60565544
>friend's HD600 w. Schiit stack I didn't hear a big improvement
Improvement over what?

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What's the consensus?

>>60565632
He means over the HD598C.

>>60565614
Okay, vile how? When people complain about treble rape with some headphones I get that, but I'm not hearing what you're complaining about.

>>60565628
Human hearing range varies quite a lot between people and most headphones are have something of a standard distribution shape to how efficiently they can replicate sounds. A wider range means more audible frequencies fall into the ideal replication range and fewer audible frequencies on the high and low end of the bell curve, thus less clipping.

>>60565662
Nice headphones for the price.

>>60565731
First of all they're closed and the bass is weak. Secondly the overall tone just sounds off. There are many headphones that are good in their own way, but you can criticize the bass, the lows or the high's etc. I'm not here to argue. Try and borrow your friends 600's for a full day, then go back to your headphones. That's all I have to say.

>>60564909
If you could wipe your headphone/amp/dac slate clean and get all your money back, what would you do different?

>>60565823
Not trying to argue, just understand, and thanks for the feedback.

>>60565924
What are the best headphones you own right now?

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So for maximum volume and nig bass do I go PortaPro or SR950?


I'm basically looking for something that sounds like Beats for less than $50.

>>60565556
Those stated ranges are completely meaningless. They are rarely representative of the actual response and without any sort of tolerance nobody is interested in that spec. The sooner the response drops off after audible upper limit the better. You do nothing but potentially introduce IMD and waste amplifier power.

>>60565736
>Human hearing range varies quite a lot between people
The generous audible range goes up to 20 kHz. Only small children are able to hear that high and many young adults struggle at 16-18 kHz. Note that these are absolute hearing limits against a sine tone under ideal conditions and with no auditory masking present. They are well above of what you are able to distinguish under normal listening conditions. There are more issues with this. Bandwidth of most audio gear drops off soon after 20 kHz, sometimes even below that or at least partly so. Nobody mixes anything that high. Lossy compression may lose the upper band altogether depending on the settings you use.

We are interested in the frequency response across the audible spectrum. Values advertised by manufacturers might as well not exist. The only remotely honest company I can think of is Etymotic.

>efficiently
Not what's important.
>clipping
That term doesn't relate to headphones too well but the closest thing, excursion limits, aren't given by the bandwidth.

>>60565869
Never bought anything else than my current headphones and in-ears and only invested into a single high end desktop unit to plug headphones into. If I had to list models, they'd probably be Etymotic ER-4SR and HD 800 as well as Benchmark DAC3 or Lynx Hilo. Out of these only the HD 800 existed when I got more interested in audio.

>>60565924
>Not trying to argue

Oh I know, I literally meant I'm not trying to. PLs pls try and borrow your friends 600's. Nothing else has came close imo and I've bought all the obvious good headphones that cost less than it. Well, 650's are the exception, and they don't sound as good.

https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/digital-to-analog-converters/desktop-objective2-with-odac/

Is this a good first dac+amp combo?

>>60566009
I have both and SR950 definitely. You could also look at Superlux 669's with the new Brainwavs Round pads to improve comfort and have a detachable cable.

>>60566144
Very good for whatever reasonable headphone load. If you get that combo, pick the optional 1x and 3.3x gain option.

>>60565988
Fidelio X2s.

>>60566144
Why not get the Fulla 2 for almost a third the price?

>>60566144
Probably not good for 600 ohm headphones.

>>60566240
Stop. Any output is well suited for high impedance minus a potentially low volume. O2+ODAC combo swings ~6.5 Vrms on high gain. That is plenty.

>>60566227
No idea what I'm looking for 2bh
I know I was looking at a pair of headphones with 250 ohms, so I needed a system.
I also was looking into getting an XLR(i think) microphone

I'm lost anon I wish someone would /g/uide me to victory

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>>60565233
triggered cuckheiser fanfaggot, go back to rebbit

>>60566314
>I know I was looking at a pair of headphones with 250 ohms, so I needed a system.
Impedance is unimportant. You want to know the voltage sensitivity and have some idea of how loud you want the headphones to be. Are those the DT880s or DT990s? Fulla 2 and O2 will likely have more than enough power for them.

XLR is just a connector for balanced runs and also used for mics that require phantom power. You basically need some sort of audio interface for it which can provide the usual 48V phantom power. Pic the mic first. Most affordable interfaces have headphone amplifiers in them, too. They won't have the power of discrete units like O2 but might still be more than enough. Check out Focusrite Scarlett Solo Steinberg UR12 or higher end units if you need that sort of connectivity.

>>60565662
Shit. AKG k612 are cheaper and better.

>>60565233
Kill yourself, we've had more individual users than we've ever had this year.

>>60566457
Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO, 250 ohms was what I had picked out

I want a non-condensor microphone, but cannot stand static from USB.
3.5mm is fine, but on the wiki I can't find good recommendations.
Account creation is closed on the wiki, but goddamn it needs updating

>>60566314
Buy the fulla 2. You don't need to spend a penny more in your situation.

So faggotini is going to measure headphones now. Kind of nice on things like 1060 that there are not many measures on.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm-NZwzPuPY

>>60567027
Is that faggot even competent enough?

>>60565233
Holy shit, that Reddit spacing. Fuck off, Sennheiser shill.

>>60567107
We will see his measures and will compare it to others, as he said himself. I would like to see him elaborate more on what curves he used to compensate, if any, and the whole process of his measurements. I think you can get decent results from his setup, it's gonna be averaged anyway.

>>60566469
>AKG k612
No bass.
Spiky treble.
Retard level sensitivity.

http://www.rode.com/microphones/procaster

r8, anything I should know with this mic?

>>60567159
I guess we'll find out

>>60567027
>>60567107
>reddit babies buy expensive measurement equipment and still can't measure headphones
>chinks like rinchoi and speakerphone get accurate measurements with their poorfag basement setups

Knock knock

>>60567464
Thats like 70$ mike and some scarlet interface, not exactly an expensive measurement rig, and his measurement of HD600 looks to be about the same as with everyone if he applied Harmon's curve. Check yourself before you shrek yourself.

>>60567027
What equipment does he use?

>>60567524
knock knock what you fucking prat

>>60567284
You have never listened to k612 or you have listened to them without proper amp.
Either way you are wrong. The only thing I could agree with is spiky treble, which is still less spiky than other AKG headphones. And boosted highs are normal for reference headphones. Actually beyerhiss boosts highs even more, that's where the hiss meme comes from.

>>60568261
k612 is one of the least sensitive headphones on the market. there's nothing to argue over that.

stop calling a treble spike "hiss". it's not a fucking hiss. it isn't "a meme" either. it's something someone started forcing on this board for like a couple of months ago to shit on beyers which have that prominent treble peak.

you know want a meme?
>reference headphones

Looking for a headphone under £1000 that is the most netrual and have next to no distortion of my music. Also I want a Amp+DAC recommendation with it please as I can hear clear static from my computer and its annoying.

>>60568535
Focal Elear + FiiO E10K

>>60568535
hd600+ sheet stack or o2 combo

>>60568431
>k612 is one of the least sensitive headphones on the market. there's nothing to argue over that
This is true but how does that even matter? As long as you have proper amp sensitivity doesn't matter. If you are audio enthusiast chances are you will get dac/amp at some point.

>stop calling a treble spike "hiss". it's not a fucking hiss.
Except it is. Most beyer headphones have tendency to sibilize. This is caused by treble peak. Sibilants sound somewhat similar to hissing. See the connection?

>>60568855
>Except it is. Most beyer headphones have tendency to sibilize. This is caused by treble peak. Sibilants sound somewhat similar to hissing. See the connection?

Not really, it just sssound sssilly.

>>60564909
This guys says that the modi sounds better than the fulla 2 even though they share the same dac. He says that the fulla 2 dac sounds grainy in comparison.

Opinions.

>>60568261
>>60568855
>t. Fetus Ears

>>60568986
Claiming that a perceptual difference exists between two DACs is not an opinion.

>>60568997
Quality post. You are really fitting in /hpg/.

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I really think people under estimate the kingston hyperx cloud headphones. I picked up a pair a few months ago on ebay for pocket change and hooked up to my dragonfly dac they sosund better than my ath-m50s and dt990. Crazy value. The sound is way less muddy than the ath. and less shrill than the dt990 with good detail. Also pretty isolating at ~50% volume.

>>60568986
>>60569077
I forgot the fucking link, but it is an opinion. whether it's correct or not was my question.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq4XuslCJe4

>>60569174
Thanks for checking out my blog. Subscribe for more news on /hpg/ shitposting.

>>60569291
>I really think people under estimate the kingston hyperx cloud headphones
How new can you be? pro80 and by extension clouds were recommended for years as budget headphones around here. Every time someone is asking for headset they get recommended clouds. They are anything but under estimated.
>sosund better than my ath-m50s and dt990
I disagree, but either way all of those are shit.

>>60568986
Any non double blinded listening tests of gear can just be safely ignored. You do not get any meaningful results that way. Grainy doesn't mean anything even if there was a some sort of an audible difference.

As for the opinion part, these sort of "impressions" don't even qualify as discussion. It's moronic discourse. There's no value in it. No aim to find out what's going on. You could just as well eyeball the amp and write on how it sounds on the internet.

>>60568855
Everyone saw the connection and got the terrible forced joke. Hiss is something else and still related to to audio: it's a noise, not a description of the frequency response. Keep them separate.

>>60569425
Are they shit because they're not Sennheiser hd600?

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I have opportunity to buy Audio-Technica ATH-M30x or Razer Kraken Forged for 80 USD. Which one I should choose?

>>60569523
Do you have the opportunity to test either?

>>60569319
>it is an opinion
It's a falsifiable statement.
>whether it's correct or not
An opinion can neither be correct (true) nor wrong (false).
>was my question.
The burden of proof is on the claimant. He didn't disable the comment section. Ask for evidence.

Educational material:
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

This will be my last reply.

>>60569514
No, because all v-shaped headphones are shit. Especially reddit meme and poorfag ones.
But to be fair, all of those have their uses. ath are ok for portables, clouds are decent for third worlders and dt990 are decent for people with hearing loss.

>>60569769
dt990 are by far the best sounding headphones under $200 for trance/dnb

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Did not expect this to show up on my camelcamelcamel watchlist after adding it like 3 years ago. Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all.

>>60569843
ComfyGod

>>60569602
Saddly no, so i ask here for opinions

>>60569523
>>60569895
Dude, just grab the M30Xs. I tried one of those Forged Edition headphones, and they sounded shittier than my brother's Corsair HS40; bass literally drowned everything out.

Best open back headphones ~$100? Looking at the ATH AD1000X. Will primarily use them for gaming. I have ATH-M50's that I've had for almost 8 years and will continue to use for movies/music. But I'm ready to try something new for gaming.

I'm willing to spend $50-$100. Maybe ~150 depending on what it is.

I'm looking for maximum comfiness. My last headphones hurt my ears pretty bad.
I want nice full sound, I especially like lower sounds. So something a little bassy and warm.
Also, a MUST should be a detachable aux cord just in case it breaks.
I'll be using it for my keyboard, mostly.

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Which are better, Ultrasone PRO900i or Sennheiser 650

>>60570801
650 easily

>>60570801
The PROs are brighter and more aggressive than the HDs, if you know what I mean; whereas the Senns are are darker and smoother.

>>60570801
What are you even looking for?

But for me, the Ultrasones are my pick.

>>60570947
>But for me, the Ultrasones are my pick.
Why would you pick the Ultrasone?

>>60567027
that doesn't look right at all

>>60570961
HD 600s aren't for me; its sound signature is not my style, to put it simple.

>>60571023
650s instead of 600s. Sorry.

>>60571023
>>60571039
That's cool but Ultrasone aren't known for making good headphones:

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/UltrasonePRO900.pdf

>>60571054
So, v-shaped headphones, am I right? Then it depends on your tastes and what you like. Why even buy an HD 650 when the HD 600 is available? At least the veilheiser meme doesn't exist with the 600s.

>>60569523
>>60570311
HD558.

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>>60570947
mostly rock, but country and pop too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgV6lTVtoTA

this guy seems to rate ultrasones high

>>60571107
Compared to the HD600, HD650 is less shrill, warmer, has more bass. Some listeners will prefer that sound signature.

The Ultrasones are legitimately bad headphones and I'm not memeing/shitposting here.

>>60571111
>[Zeos] seems to rate ultrasones high

he'll shill anything to get you to click his referral links

>>60571129
I'm not trying to argue, but what's aside from their sound signature, what's bad about them? Tried them in-store once, and they seemed good enough.

my headphones smell like SHIT

>>60571166
Pro Tip: Take a shower once in awhile and quit sitting on them.

>>60571155
Just look at the response curve posted earlier and its distortion values.

There are better V-shaped headphones, such as DT770 which have earned their reputation.

>>60571111
>Zeos
kek

>>60571111
>Rock
Oh man, the 650s are not for you

>>60571180
my headphones smell like HAIR

>pull earpads off and wash them
>they still smell bad
How do you clean velour earpads?

>>60571197
What does your hair smell like?

>>60568228
Banana who?

>>60571195
This.
Dude, just find another pair of headphones to compare.

>>60571214
I honestly don't know. It's not really disgusting but still pretty unpleasant. Actually it's more like my scalp's odor.

>orders headphones from eBay
>shipped from SK
>dude sent me a message saying they were out of stock, that I'll get a refund
>ok, i ask why this happened
>16h later hasn't responded

i goofed didn't i

>>60571287
Holy shit, what country do you live in?

>>60571195
are ultrasones suitable for rock music?

>>60571363
Seems like they have an issue with distortion, according to other users. We can recommend you a couple headphones if you fill out the form.

>>60565082
Try HD600 and you'll understand.

There's a ceiling closed can never cross. With open, we go to the sky and beyond.

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$300 budget, closed ear headphones, for animu music?

What are the best sub $150 headphones available for warm sound?

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>Budget
From 80€ to... 200€? I have 80€ off thanks to some coupon shenanigans. I spend a lot of time on my computer, it's best I don't act stingy when it comes to that, though I'm not exactly rich if you catch my drift

>Location
France. Actually limited to this site: http://www.rueducommerce.fr/

>Source
My computer. Regular Z97 motherboard integrated sound card.

>Type of headphone
Normal

>Open or closed
Preferably closed. There's some stuff I'd rather not let my family hear. But if I have to sacrifice that for much better sound I can deal with it...

>Comfort level
6/10? I'll wear them for looong period of times. Sometimes over 18 hours. Again if I can get better quality for slightly less comfort I'll cope.

>Sound signature
I like bass music but I'm not too connoisseur to go more into specifics. So whatever.

>Past headphones
some garbage wireless sennheisers, ATH-M50s, AKG K550, nothing too fancy so far, stepping up my game would be nice.

Please and thank you!

>>60571516
Oh I should add that in case nothing good comes up on that site I'm also looking for earbuds under 80€ (again using what's on the coupon).

>>60571462
why closed? you 300% sure?

>>60571516
>Preferably closed. There's some stuff I'd rather not let my family hear. But if I have to sacrifice that for much better sound I can deal with it...
At low/healthy volume they won't hear anyway.
Go HD600. You know you want to. Then you're set for life.

>>60571705
>I like bass music
>HD 600
Are you really sure about that, anon?

>>60571691
>why closed?
I do not want to hear my noisy family.

>>60571729
Ding! That's a good reasonable answer. Now people can stop trying to shill open headphones.

>>60571721
Yes. I love bass music too, and <3 HD600. Bass is deliciously detailed.

>>60571755
Ditch your family. The sound is worth it.

>>60571769
The HD 600's bass is more used for texture than anything, and there's barely any sub-bass. I wouldn't pick these headphones for bassy music.

>>60571797
It's strong as in strong enough. But I personally can't put up with "bassy" headphones, so there's that. I really enjoy my HD600. They're good at damn everything.

>>60571516
Try taking a look at CB-1s and the HM5s or other similar clones such as the XPT100.

>>60571813
There's crispy bass and there's muddy Beats-tier bass. The 600's bass is just not there if you're really looking for bass capable headphones.

>>60571846
idk, listening to some New Order on my HD600 here, and the bass is love.

Or was anyway, about time I put the HD600 on their headphone support and just go to sleep.

Opinions on Audio Technica ATH M50X

>>60572151
Too muddy.
The 40s are much better.

>>60572151
Overpriced for what it is. Used to be pretty good when it was cheaper then people kept recommending them after the price rise and became a meme as there's better headphones around $150 USD.

>>60572151
See
>>60554381

>>60565327
Razer Man'o'Wars are a great choice for sound quality. If you have a big head though don't get them. They're not super durable and certain points crack easy.

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>>60572236
>Razer Man'o'Wars
>>60565327
Etymotic MK5/HF5/MC5

>>60565327
Etymotic hf5

>>60572236
Those headphones have a higher risk of snapping than Sennheisers, and you can probably see why.

>>60571769
It's muddy as shit compared to a good planar.

>>60572236
Woah anon, he said neutral.

>>60572355
He also said IEMs. This is all wrong.

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Hello friends, I checked the catalog but didn't see a Microphone thread so i suppose I'm shitting up yours instead.

building a new PC, decided I might as well get a non-garbage mic. With a budget of $25-100 USD what's a "good" mic? I could just get a pack of 5 shitty chink mics for like $5, but since I spend a good portion of my time using a mic I might as well get a decent one so the people I talk to don't have to deal with it being shit as much.

Was looking at Neewer NW-700, as it's only $32, but I know nothing about audio equipment.

Also so it's not 100% off topic, I'll be getting these headphones and Amp with the PC. I know I could always go fancier but don't really want to end up spending a shitload on new headphones and amps and shit.

>FiiO E10K
>Superlux HD 681

>>60572419
The Sony clip on mic doesn't sound awful, can just clip to your headphone cable.

I'd hold off an amp, may not need one.
If you're set on getting one, consider the Fulla 2, has more connectivity options for long term use.

Are the HE400i any good?

>>60572605
not really

>>60572419
I've owned and heavily used those headphones. Very good for the price. I would hold off on getting an amp, unless you literally have nothing else to plug these guys into (like if you would plug the headphones into the pc directly). If you're plugging the headphones into a speaker set, I would not get an amp; you'd be wasting your money.

>>60572605
Build quality? No.
Sound quality? They're acceptable.

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf

>>60572676
Yeah it's either an AMP or plug them straight into the mobo. Figure since I'm getting a full-on PC for the first time in probably 5 years I might as well get an Amp.

Here's the full build for reference. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhBBtJ

>>60572658
>>60572692
What would be a good alternative in the same price range with a similar sound?

>>60572739
What are you even looking for in headphones? What are you going to do?

>>60572807
Just going to be listening to high fidelity music most of the time, planning to order a turntable and going to use these with that and that's about it.

I already got Samson SR850s and Bose QC35 for other needs.
I like my SR850s but i really want something better

>>60572605
Excellent bass and sound stage and all around good sound, if you're one of the lucky ones to get a unit without QC issues. If you do get QC issues, good luck sending that shit to china for repairs.

>>60572866
Honestly, as much of a meme they are, take a look at the HD 600s and HD 650s. If you want something darker take a look at your original choice; seriously, I would describe them as darker 650s with better bass. They aren't even that bad; the only thing keeping me from recommending them to you is its quality control. Otherwise, if you want something a bit brighter, take a look at the AKG K712 or Q701.

>>60572973
I personally prefer a warmer sound desu

But I get so confused reading about all the different headphones there are, it's just good to get some opinions sometimes.

Thanks for the suggestions anon

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Alright /hpg/; let's play a game. Can you guess which board this image was taken from?

Of all the headphones here
http://chinkshit.xyz/infographic.pdf
Which one is the most comfy?

>>60573738
90% sure this is /v/

>>60573738
/b/

>>60573821
>>60573822
Wrong. I'll give you a hint; take a look at how poorfag their headphones are.

>>60573820
The Somic V2s, my dude. Comfiest poorfag headphones there.

>>60573820
ISK 2011 or 2010 probably, depending if you want closed or open.

>>60573820
Just get a $59 HD558 on Amazon, don't bother with that chink shit

>>60573820
>>60573895
Or the $55 SHP9500S, depending on what you want.

>>60573911
Thanks. Think I'll get these. $55 and free shipping on Newegg

>>60573820
Thicc head? TH02+HM5 Pads/SHP9500
Baby head like me? SR850/662 EVO/Somic MM185/V2

>>60573911
Actually, how is the comfiness and sound signature on these before I buy it?

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>>60573979
>Comfiness
These are damn comfy headphones; the only negative I would put are its shallow but wide earcups. Otherwise, you literally feel nothing if you wear it right.
>Sound signature
Barely any sub-bass, but with flat mids. Compared to the more laid back HD 558s, they're less bassy, but more detailed. While they're warm and laid back, these can be called slightly bright. Its wide soundstage is also a bonus.

>>60574061
By wide soundstage, I mean wider than what you would expect $100 headphones to have. Not amazing, but noticeable enough to appreciate, if you know what I mean.

>>60573838
R9k?

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>>60574104

>>60574012
Aren't those 595's with a mic?

>>60574297
I honestly don't know. I don't think so though....

>>60574092
>>60574104
At least thee taste in music is pretty decent

If you have a budget of about 5k leaf dollars, what end game system you can build? Focal Utopia maybe, I don't know much about headphones?

Just looking for some cheap in-ears, with a good sound for my phone
>Budget
5-10/15€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
In-ear headphones
>Comfort level
Should be comfy inside the ear and dont hurt when I lay to the site on my ear

why isn't this used as a basis when referring headphones?

http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php

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I'm a bit new to /hpg/'s so sorry if I sound inexperienced
What's the general opinion on the m50x? If I go through with buying them, should I bother with an amplifier or just leave them as they are?

>Budget
€150
>Location
Europe
>Source
AIM SC808 with 2x LME49720 + 1x LM4562NA operational amplifiers
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, but sound quality first
>Sound signature
Preferably v-shaped or neutral
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681, quite satisfied with them

>>60575627
From what I've learned on these threads on these past two days, do not use them. You can get better ones for relatively the same price.

>>60575734
Is the price the only problem with it? Build quality wise, I haven't come across any negative nor positive opinions on /g/ yet.

>>60575783
see >>60554421

aiaiai shitty gimmick or alright headphone?

>>60575627
I have them and I like them a lot and they're fine without amp for me personally
I don't know what they cost retail and I didn't pay retail so I can't advise on meme per buck

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>>60575794
>>60575818
>>60575734
Thanks for the info lads

>>60572347
Tell us about
>good planar

>>60576003
Literally any planar excluding the t50rp.

>>60576065
funny because good planar is an oxymoron

>>60576076
Funny because you've only ever tried HD600s

>>60576101
>thinking old, dated tech is good because some stupid boutique manufacturer marketed it as being fresh and new
fuck off retard

>>60576292
>dumb dynamicfag talking shit about orthodynamics and electro stats
We get it, you can't afford them. Now fuck off.

>>60576363
>trying to put old and busted orthodynamics on the same level as electrostatics and electrodynamics
you don't know anything about transducers

>>60576381
We get it, you're deaf, illiterate and retarded. Now fuck off.

>>60576393
keep putting money in the pockets of uneducated headphone 'manufacturers' who just throw some unorthodox transducer type in a frame and call it a day

>>60576415
Enjoy hearing harmonic distortion instead of bass.

>>60576433
i see you don't know what harmonic distortion is

>>60576451
You don't know what bass is so let's call it even.

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>Budget
£100 maximum
>Location
London, UK
>Source
FiiO E10K
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
neutral?
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD201 (I stepped on it)

please help me pick something out

>>60576618
HD558 or wait until you can afford something better.

HD600 > HD579|HD599 > k702 > HD598se > HD558 > HD559

>>60576802
you forgot HD650 > HD600

>>60576839
I didn't. HD650 is just a worse, more expensive version of HD600. Not worth mentioning as a recommendation.

>>60576848
yeah fuck off you inexperienced clown

What DAC should i get for work/laptop: HiFimeDIY Sabre USB DAC or FiiO K1?

>>60576913
To use with IEMs.

>>60571195
>frequency response for a genre meme
will it ever end?

>>60572151
>>60575627
i don't like them but i know a lot of people who do. for me they are uncomfortable and i don't like the bass boost and treble peaks.
>amp
they are sensitive and have really flat impedance. don't bother with amps for now.

they are a v-shaped headphone with foldable construction and some cables included for mobile and desktop use. people here go all retarded when m50x gets mentioned, wanting to make you buy something else without even considering that someone genuinely likes these headphones. try them out if you can.

>>60571462
msr7. relatively neutral pair with nice build quality. they don't isolate a great deal however.

>>60570745
nvx xpt100. haven't heard anyone complain about their build quality. they have a broad midbass boost making them full sounding and warm. they have detachable cable with standard connectors.

>>60570801
i'm sure hd 650 is much more preferred overall. i for one couldn't name a single good ultrasone headphone.

>>60572605
pretty unique coloration. mid centric with deep bass but slightly bass light overall. comfort is good, build is average.

>>60574936
kz-ed3 or go check the /csg/ infograph

>>60575659
dt770 pro 80 ohm

>>60576618
http://amzn.eu/hoVDb73

alternative option would be hd 558 but that seems to be up in price.

>>60575303
i've used it plenty. check harman's how to listen software, too.

>>60574479
you can build a lot of stuff with that. better start by understanding your own preferences. i don't like the new focals much but seems like many people do.

If I get a stereo receiver for my speakers can I plug my headphones into it too, or would I be better with a seperate dac/amp?

my dac/amp blew up : (

>>60577095
>msr7
Are those a direct upgrade from the m40s?

>>60577167
don't really like thinking in upgrades as preferences vary. for me they would be as they are more neutral and with much higher quality construction.

>>60577119
pretty much every stereo receiver and integrated amp has headphone output so yes you can. their output impedance can be extremely high so be vary of that. modern ones also have digital inputs.

>>60577293
>don't really like thinking in upgrades as preferences vary
Alright, I'll think about it.

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what's your favorite pair of chink
headphones /g/?

>>60569523
Bestbuy's monopoly on HD 558 is worth checking out.

A friend of mine is willing to sell me a Phillips SHP9500 for like 20€. He used them for a couple months before switching to something else. Should I do it?

>>60577119
>my dac/amp blew up :(
I'm curious. What device was it? What happened to it?

>>60578816
Yes
>>60578772
Been enjoying my 668B/669's for the psst year, sounds pretty. Good with EQ senpai.

>>60579066
Thanks, I'll buy them.

>>60578772
To this day the best chinkphones I've listened to were the Takstar Hi2050, which were like 50€ at the time, but I think they're discontinued now.

>>60579233
You'll need new pads for them btw since the stock pads are garbage. There's also the 681/681B/681F in order of bass roll off with the 681 extending the furthest. The Somic MM185 are Status CB-1's with an attached cable and are pretty damn comfy.

>>60579347
Are the pads removable? How hard would it be to get new pads on there?

>>60564909
My m40s are coming in today. Am I exited?

>>60579367
They are removable. It's not too bad with a little stretching before trying to put them on. If you want to go cheap, AKG K240 velours. For maximum comfy on a decent budget, HM5 Hybrids.

Are the Monoprice Monolith M1060 still shit or did the 2nd revision actually fix them?
should i go for the M560 instead?

>>60576076
Alright anon, what are the best headphones you currently own?

>>60578816
It's a good deal if you like bright headphones.

>>60579698
A lot of the QC issues were addressed and improved upon like switching the MMCX connectors for 2.5mm connectors.

Bose QC 20 vs QC 30?

>>60580152
>bose
disgusting

>>60579594
Thanks man, really appreciated.

>Budget
sub $600 USD
>Location
US of A
>Source
JDSlabs the element
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
coming from x2s so they better be comfy
>Sound signature
neutral or a bit warm
>Past headphones
currently have X2s and momentum 2 over ears, used to have sound magic e10s and before that it was a wasteland of shitty skull candies

>>60565008
i picked up a pair of beyerdynamic custom streets for 70$ americoins and aesthetically they look about the same. i bet yours sound better or something but i don't really pay too much attn to how my headphones sound when i'm out and about.

>>60580305
I forgot to add
If you want a decent complete package, 662 EVO's as they have a detachable cable and come with 2 sets of pads.

>>60576851
Not him but I bought both from amazon knowing I could send one back. The 650 went back. It's literally a muddier version of the 600, fucking pointless.

>>60565437
I see you installed Alpha™ Pads™ and a ZMF™ Pilot™ Pad™.

Apple ear pods are unironically the best ear buds in existence

>>60569523
Neither.

>Budget
300€ or little bit more
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC, PS4, smartphone, walkman.
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Dunno
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
I would prefer V-shape.
>Past headphones
Koss porta pro. And for one week Beats by Dre (bass was cool but it seems like details in guitar or singers voice were kind of distorted)

Also I'm thinking about gettin one of these wireless bluetooth headphones.

>>60577095
>nvx xpt100. haven't heard anyone complain about their build quality. they have a broad midbass boost making them full sounding and warm. they have detachable cable with standard connectors.

I certainly have a couple times on /hpg/. I'd never recommend them [or HM5's]. Clamp is like a fucking vice, and I didn't mind HD600 clamp when new. Also, they have a really big suck-out in the upper mid-bass, which makes them sound like ass.

Their only redeeming feature is the great pads.

>>60572151
Shit comfort. Mediocre build. Entirely outdone by 770's at their price-point.

>>60574123
I woulda assumed /mu/ lol. Always see some retarded shit going on there.

>>60578772
662 EVO and HE-6

>>60580591
What's wrong with your Fidelio X2?

>>60581344
Custom Studio

Which is generally the best bang for your buck iem or over ear?
Less than 150 and limited to bestbuy

>>60581754
They're great, I love them. But I was hoping to get into higher impedance, more premium stuff. I've had the X2s for over 2 years now.

>>60582302
Why do you care about impedance?

>>60581824
thx anon
Will try em out.

>>60582334
I've been redpilled into thinking high impedance is better.

>>60582421
It won't matter when your amp has an output impedance of 0.1.

>>60577095
does the MSR7 leak a lot of sound?

>>60581344
HD600 (neutral)
Yes, I think (by your beats comment) that you're wrong about wanting v-shaped.

Oppo PM-3 or Audeze Sine or Shure SRH1540?
Which has the most neutral and open sound?

Question: what is considered mid bass? The transition between bass and mids? In other words upper bass to low mids? 100-400hz?

>>60582559
Well I'm not really sure by myself. But mostly when I set up EQ it looks like Bass Up, Treble Up and Mid just like in middle.
But maybe I'm wrong.

>>60582666
The Sine is the most neutral of the three. And yes, I've heard all three. As for 'open', I won't bother answering such a retarded question.

I do own the Oppo PM-3 which I prefer over the Sine for comfort.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/5/31/11810750/oppo-pm3-vs-audeze-sine-review-planar-magnetic-headphones

The Shure is the least neutral and I can't remember much about the comfort as I tried it ages ago. But I think it would probably beat those two in comfort. The Shure is too warm and bassy.

InnerFidelity has measurements of all three headphones for you to look at.

>>60582666
Sine is both the most neutral and has the least amount of isolation.

>>60582559
>HD600 (neutral)
wrong

>>60582731
That's classic "make it sound good" EQ, used mostly with bad speakers/headphones.
With good headphones or monitor speakers, EQ is simply unnecessary.
>>60583205
Try naming a more neutral full sized headphone. Extra points if it doesn't have horrid THD nor cost thousands.

>>60583285
anything from stax or shure
>horrid THD
hd600 aleady has this anyway so that's irrelevant

>>60583299
>anything from stax or shure
Anon, you're kidding right?

right?

>>60583299
What shure headphones are you talking about? imo the 600 is the best headphone before you enter retard territory, money wise.

>>60582559
Dude, quit shilling

>>60583205
>No sub-bass
>Barely any bass
>HD 600
Dude, they're not neutral

>>60583473
Not enough bass? Get yourself some beats or skullcandy.

>>60583538
Kek. No; literally no bass. Just take a look at that frequency response. Now quit shilling.

>>60583401
>STAX
No.
>Shure
Yes, but the distortion is questionable.

>>60583576
Anon, you're not just deaf, but blind too.

>>60583598
Gee wiz, now I'd you'd only bring the frequency graph.

>>60583538
The 600's are my favorite headphone but the only downside imo is the bass. They're fine on their own but I use a slight bass eq with mine just to give them that tiny bit of rumble on bassy songs. Even then, they're still fairly light and airy sounding.

>>60583598
Literally delusional

Bass is basic thing you need when you listen to some lit shit.
Like imagine world without bass sound.
World will become Britain.
Boring

>>60584176
Britain is likely better than whatever shithole you come from friendo.

>>60584319
>t. Britbong

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>>60584176
Enjoying the bass on my HD600 :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNizdyx-DE

>>60584319
From a scale of 1 to 10, how mad are you?

>>60584431
literally 0. From a scale of 1 to 10 how shit is your country lmao. England is mostly fucking glorious.

>>60584352
>mfw enjoying that linjk with my 600's
>tfw when I grew up with my older brothers c64

That links shows why the 600 bass is enough, but my slight bass eq boost is a little bit better imo.

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>>60584602
Schiit uber stack -> HD600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEUJd8iQiOE

>>60584726
That doesn't make sense m8, and I'm using the standard schiit stack with my 600's right now. The uber doesn't sound any better. It just has more features, and a nice aluminium finish.

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>>60584837
I'm not saying it sounds any better than the non uber. It's just I have the uber.
I got it for the features; I do use all the inputs in modi and I do plan to use the preamp outs on the magni.

>>60584459
>A fucking britbong
>Defending HD 600-tier bass
Lmao

>>60584873
>a fucking literally who country
>I'm not the guy defending the 600 bass

Retard.

>>60584866
Yeah that's cool if you have a use for the uber. What did you mean by stack> hd600?

Were you simply stating your setup or saying that the stack is better than the headphone? because that wouldn't make sense.

>>60584927
It's an arrow. From stack to HD600. Stating my setup.
I should have used a longer arrow body, like --->.

Bose QC35 vs. Sony MDR-1000X, which one should I get?

>>60584902
>Literally defending your country in /hpg/
Kek. I'm not joining your cuckery.

>>60584927
Yeah my bad. Either way, we have the endgame right here buddy.

>>60585023
kek I bet your homeland is nice. Have a good day.

>>60585092
Thank you! Good luck with your cucked country

>>60584968
1000X. Bose make botnet headphones.

>>60585070
>HD 600
>End games
Kek

>>60582521
Not much but isolation is two fold. If you leak a lot of sound, you don't isolate a lot either. MSR7 aren't the greatest in this regard but not the worst either.

>>60582716
That range matches it quite well.

>>60583285
>With good headphones or monitor speakers, EQ is simply unnecessary.
No. Any good pair of modern loudspeaker has built in electronics to equalize it. They already use it because it's the only way we can make truly accurate systems. Loudspeakers are trickier than headphones and equalization can only fix resonances, they can't fix issues with directivity which is a very key area in loudspeaker sound reproduction in a room and an area that headphones lack. Headphone responses and "accuracy" is all over the place. None of them even get close to the type of accuracy that a good, even a completely passive loudspeaker can. You don't need EQ but if you want to make your headphones better, EQ is always your friend. Just need to know how to use it.

>THD
Nothing important to gather from that. The value doesn't tell us a thing about the possible audible impact.

>>60585520
lets say I'm in one room and my parents are sleeping in the other, can I watch porn or anime with them safely?

>>60585558
If you feel like you should hide your habits from them, I'd say you are covered by just about any pair of closed back headphones.

>>60585558
Even open headphones will do the trick if the volume is healthy low.
On the desk, at the usual volume I use them at, my HD600 can barely be heard. Out of the room, they can't be heard.

>>60585601
Oh let us please hear more about you and your HD 600 experiences.

>>60585614
I'd have to bring the volume up to uncomfortable levels for that.
But I do suggest getting some HD600 and experiencing them yourself.

>>60585635
They sound amazing. Pun intended. LOL.

>>60585317
Name a clearly better headphone.

>>60585520
>>THD
>Nothing important to gather from that.
There's a correlation between distortion audibility and the amount of THD in headphones.

>>60585582
>>60585601
Thanks for the assurance

>>60585643
Atm playing danganronpa 2 with my HD600, on linux (gentoo), and experiencing the despair.
(note: no pulseaudio bullshit running, although using systemd, proper for danganronpa purposes)

What are margins like in the headphone industry

could I design and sell my own headphone if it was good and priced fairly?

Are the new Sennheiser's any good? The HD 559, 569, 579 and 599? They're having some big discounts...

>>60585644
Prove you own higher end headphones first

>>60585730
>559
Worse than 558.
>569
No fucking clue.
>579/599
Better than HD598/se. Very similar FRs between them. Reviews I've seen claim 579 is more "analytical" (audioshit nonsense, might mean neutral), while 599 is a bit "colored".
>discounts
Might be interesting indeed if they're really cheap, like <150€ for the 579/599.
But if you can afford it, just go HD600.

>>60585761
What? the most expensive headphone I have tried /own are the 600s and 650s. Now tell me what headphones are clearly better overall.

>>60585717
>could I design and sell my own headphone if it was good and priced fairly?
You could sell absolute junk at a ridiculous price with the right marketing: http://www.zmfheadphones.com/

>>60585772
Thanks for the input, i can't really afford the 600's, the 599 would be a huge push already, the other's i can have them around 150€, for instance, i've seen the 559 at the same price as the 518.

>>60585791
>Most expensive
Kek. Then I guess I can't convince you

>>60585809
The HD598se has been spotted at 100€ before, while the usual price was 130-150.
At 150€, the HD579 might be a good purchase, but I'd suggest (after putting it on cart if amazon; that keeps the price low even if it goes up, at least for a few hours) reading/watching several reviews featuring it, possibly pitted against the HD599. I'm saying this because, honestly, I haven't looked into it myself enough, as after all I do have HD600 and I'm not really looking into buying lower models.

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>>60585902

>>60585902

>>60585902

>>60585864
Ok man, thank you, that was great already, there's one thing i never get, why after all these yers, the 600's are still on top? Can't they make another great pair?

>>60585918
HD650 is literally "made for millennials who want to feel the music". Very similar to HD600, but tweaked for more subbass, less treble, obviously less neutral, and generally considered worse by reviewers.
HD700 is somewhat v-shaped and has a terrible reputation (although the few people that like it do love it). HD800 is less neutral and flawed (sibilant) yet people like it a lot, HD800S fixes the sibilant issue but changes the overall FR and costs an arm and a leg; On top of that, for some reason many people do not like it vs HD800.
Sennheiser has teased some new model (HD820) recently. Little is known about it, but it is believed to be closed back.