/hpg/ - Headphone General

I love my HD650

tell me about the Audeze iSine 10 planar IEM headphones

What kind of amp + headphone (already have DAC) setup does $700 usually get? HD600's/650's with a mid tier amp?
600's/650's seemed like they would be kind of boring, so I've been heavily considering the Stax srs-3100, but Stax seem to come with a lot of baggage. Feel like I'm back at square one and I'm not sure what to get at all.

>>60537474
Maybe Schiit Stack and HD700/TH-X00?

>>60536751
What kind of hamhands break an HD600/650?

lel snapheiser monkeys BTFO once again

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>>60537506
To be fair, the owner had it for 10 years before the headband actually broke.

>is this expected quality of a $500 headphone?

gets me every time

Solo 2 master race post:

Tyll Review of the Solo 2:

>I had no problem coming to the conclusion that the Solo2 belongs on the "Wall of Fame" as a reference on-ear, sealed headphone at the $200 mark. In the end, if I had to pick only one, I would choose the Solo2 over either the Momentum On-Ear or V-Moda XS due to it's smooth and coherent mid-range and warm character, which I tend to prefer, but only by the smallest of margins and I'm sure others would make different choices depending on tastes.

>Read more at https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/time-rethink-beats-solo2-excellent-page-2#3bjUj3TxgbfY5Jlf.99

Who are you to say the Solo 2 is bad?

Picked up my HS5's today, and I'm in audio bliss.
Got em for a steal at $200.

Probably gonna grab some HD600 for when I need to be quiet since I live in an apartment.
But these are awesome. Hope you all have some decent speakers to complement your headphones.

>inb4 blog

Answer me this, /hpg/; Is there any reason to buy headphones over speakers?

Bought Trinity Audio Phantom Master 4 Quad Driver IEMs; anyone here familiar with these?

DO NOT POST TO TROLL THREADS!

DO NOT FEED TROLLS!

Real /hpg/ thread is here:

NEW THREAD IS HERE

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>>60537625

OP's that mentally ill TrustyFucks anon. Do not post to his threads, do not reply to his trolls.

>Need money so I had to sell my K7XX and AD2000X
Atleast I still have my HD6XX and HD800S

>>60537644
>New link doesn't have a link to the last general
Kek. How madhurt are you?

>>60537630
yes

>>60537644
>TrustyFucks
>Hasn't posted since February
At least you tried.

>>60537712
sennheiser troll, anti-anime and Philips shill is the same mentally ill guy.

and stay in this shit thread.

>>60537746
>TrustyFucks occupies all the shitposting in /hpg/
How angry are you?

>>60537682
Such as?

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You know the drill; post 'em.

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Lookin for some recs

>Budget
$200 [hard limit]
>Location
United States
>Source
3.5 mm stereo [iPhone 6s, laptop]
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
fit snug, with no chance of falling out
>Past headphones
Apple EarPods, Beats by Dre [liked the fact that they had proper bass without drowning out the treble, didn't like how quickly they started sucking]

>>60537547
Not bad, just overpriced and the stigma of the original Monster Beats still sticks around a bit.

>>60536896
>i love being cucked
ftfy

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>>60537540
and here is a 50 year old AKG, notice how it isnt broken?

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>>60537934
ok.


>>60538520
My 30 years old Sennheiser isn't broken as well. They probably went chink at some time.

>>60538793
How are the middle-right headphones?

>Budget
under $50 USD, maybe more in the future, but absolutely no more than $100
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung smartphone/PC
>Type of headphone
i dunno i'm not audiophilic
>Open or closed
either way, I guess. I haven't tried closed before.
>Comfort level
If it fits the ears, that's great. My old ones didn't, but I never much complained
>Sound signature
As long as the vidjagames sound the way the creators intended. [i really don't know the proper signatures for such.]
>Past headphones
Teknmotion, around $25 on Amazon, and they lasted about 3 years. I liked them, but I have not used better ones to compare them to - thus, I dunno how much better headphones can sound.

Please post in the thread my gf made, she'll cry otherswise.

>>60537625
>>60537625
>>60537625
>>60537625

>>60538962
Your waifu is shit.

>>60538910
HD540

Widest soundstage of all headphones i've listened to, a bit weak on the bass, pretty neutral. Can't tell in more detail because i still havn't ordered new pads and the current ones are rotting away.
And they have like no weight at all, so comfy.
Definately worth getting some cheap ones if you can (doesnt look that good, last ones i've seen on ebay are at 300€). HD530 got slight upgrades and allegedly sound better.

>>60539028
Thanks. They caught my eye; seems like an odd pair of headphones.

>>60539050
Not that odd, at least 30 years ago. They used to be the Sennheiser flagship.

>>60539088
>tfw a pair of headphones are older than you
Those are old headphones.

>>60538950
If you can spend a bit more, go for the SHP9500S; they're $55 right now. Otherwise, I don't know much about the sub-$50 range of headphones. Take a look at >>>/g/csg instead.

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>>60538962

You must be 13 to post on 4chin.

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>>60538950
gotta agree with this anon
>>60539187

$55 (newegg sale price) SHP9500s is the bargain you're looking for. Good sound, good build quality, extremely comfortable even for large heads. However, if you need a mic, you'll have to get a different cable... which is where /csg/ can be quite useful.

>>60538284
HD600 bro :)

>>60538950
HD600

Should I cop the AD1000x or Grado SR325e? First pair of open backs I'll be getting.

>>60539287
Personally, I would buy the AD1000Xs. I've never found Grado headphones comfy, with their on-ear design. The ADs are pretty comfy, but they don't work that well with smaller heads.

>>60539302
>>60539287

Grado headbands are meant to be bent/shaped to adjust clamping force, making them very comfy. Those hard, bowl-shaped pads on the other hand...

"flats" are definitely best Grado pads

>>60539302
I love my m50s so I'll probably stick with audio technica yeah, I just noticed on amazon the ATH-R70x is cheaper than the AD100x. I'm torn again.

>posts picture of broken headphone
>therefore said headphone is built like shit

When will the snapheiser meme end? The actual problematic headphones of theirs was the HD515, HD555 and HD595... as well as the very first revisions of HD518, HD558 and HD598.

>>60539541
Excluding Reddit or Head-Fi, I can only find this comparing both headphones.

http://www.lachlanlikesathing.com/2015/05/audio-technica-ath-r70x-vs-ath-ad1000x.html

Read and take your pic, anon. Never tried the R70Xs.

>>60539577
>Stiff plastic
>Not built like shit

>>60539590
I'll look into it, I appreciate it man.

I saw a dude in a uni class with SE846 on and looking up $300 cable upgrades on his laptop. Which one of you faggots was that?

>>60539667
>$300 cable
Go ask Head-Fi.

>>60539617
I'm glad it's plastic because its lightweight.

There hasn't been a single HD600/HD650 owner in this thread with a broken unit.

The build quality on them are fine.

But now I'm going to be called a shill because I defended Sennheiser.

>>60537630
If you live alone and aren't on a budget then no. If you don't then yes. Headphones will obviously not annoy other people around you.

But it also depends a bit on how much you are willing to spend. $200 could get you headphones with pretty amazing audio quality. $200 won't get you a good stereo or surround receiver and a good pair of speakers.

>>60539730
Thanks.

>>60538793
>headbumps
it was broken the day it was made

>Budget
$200
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open, all the way
>Comfort level
If it fits, it's good enough
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
HD 558, AKG K612

Are there any upgrades for these two headphones? I'm going to bed, but thanks for any recommendation.

Superlux HD662EVO after 5 months is now messing up. The audio goes in and out on both sides like I'm listening to binaural asmr or something. Is there a way to fix it?

>>60540380
Nevermind, I just unplugged/plugged the audio jack on the computer and it's fine now.

>>60540512
Nice.

>>60539263
That box is new, that cable looks different too, I wish I could get quality headphones in my country I was able to grab one of these for around $70 now it's way overpriced at around $170.

>>60539287
I just got a pair of AD1000x's. I like them, but the wing system sure is odd.

>>60540340
AKG K702

>>60539730
>receiver
might as well add in the $100 for a headphone amp and DAC

Whats the best way to cut bring 24/96 music down to 16/44?

Just bought a pair of audio technica m40x's at 55$, how did I do?

>>60539684
>because its lightweight
Who gives a shit. Do headlets really feel weighed down by the 20 grams more a properly built headphone would weigh? With all these fat fucks whining about "clamping force" you think itd be anon issue

>>60540756
You could've done better.

>>60539263

>>60537474
Get the stax m8. You could also just get the L300 and a better, used amp. Something like the srm1/mk2, srm-t1, srm-323, etc would be good.

>>60540880
Great idea, whereas with the HD600 you're guaranteed to get too much midbass and subbass rolloff, with the L300, it will vary between linearity and literally no subbass based on tiny head movements and how long it's been since your last haircut - makes the headphone ownership process a lot more engaging and involved, eh?

>>60541077
The seal is not defeated quite as easily as you seem to think it is.

>>60541097
I've owned - and measured - a Lambda before. Perhaps you're just not very sensitive to a loss of subbass, but it's quite easy to have happen. You can see it in 4~ pf the raws for the SR207 https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207SB2217.pdf and all 10 of the raws for the L300 https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSRL300.pdf

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>>60541121
I've owned them too, and I've never had the seal break unintentionally.

>>60541133
Three options: 1, my experience - and the measurements that support it - is non-representative. 2, your experience is non-representative. 3, you either did not notice the drop in subbass quantity because that's a fairly hard thing to detect unless you're listening to very subbassy music, or have never actually maintained a strong seal long enough for the loss of it to be noticeable. I lean toward #3.

>>60541157
I know how the sub bass dropoff sounds like, since I've done it intentionally, it's not exactly subtle. Tyll getting imperfect seals on his dummy head isn't exactly remarkable imo. So I guess you just happen to have a headshape that made it harder to get a good seal than me.

>>60538793
Heeeey, Ulver!
Although I only listen to their metal albums and Messed I.X - VI.X

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>>60537644
>>60538962

>>60536751
I know this is a headphones general, but there is no speakers one so I'll ask here. Are Logitech Z333 good speakers for electronic music and watching a lot of movies? I can get them for 45€ and they look like a pretty good deal

>>60543483
>cheap logishits

They won't be good, but they'll at least be cheap.

is the cable mod worth it on the 770

>HD598 with amp
or
>HD600 without amp
Help

>>60544358
600 without, then get an amp later if you need it.

>>60544358
What's your source? If it's nonportable it should be able to run the HD600 just fine.

>>60544404
PC
Yeah I guess it should run it just fine, thanks kind anons
>>60544391

so my SR60e's just died on me after 2 years of daily use. I loved the sound and comfort but the build quality was ass, pure and simple. towards the end the wires were starting to strip straight out of the plastic splitter and this is mostly due to the cans having full 360 travel for some reason.

I'd love to get another pair but I don't want to go through them like they're fucking shoes. can I expect the higher end Grado models to last longer?

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>>60536751
Recommend me a decent headphone set for just 12$, /g/.
I was thinking of getting a copycat of Dr Dre Solo Beats and plugging them into my motherboard. I heard they're one level above the average 5$ headphones.

By the way could you redpill me on headphones with USB connectors? are there any differences?

>>60544358
HD 598 is you play video games.
Otherwise get 600 and save for amp later.

Can I get a quick runpill on SHM-CD?

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Hey, not exactly headphones but I figure this would be the best place to ask. Anyone have a recommendation for good quality, comfortable earphones? Wireless would be a plus but not necessary. I've had Skullcandy recommended to me by friends but I'd like to double check with you guys.

>>60545204
VE Monk Plus, KZ IEM's
>redpill me on headphones with USB connectors
I don't think there's any decent standalone headphones that terminate in USB though the idea is to eliminate any static and noise coming directly from the rear 3.5mm jack on your PC.

>Budget
Capped at $170.

>Location
US. Might be a bit too specific, but I'm looking to trade in my gaming headset to Best Buy to get credit towards another purchase. So if the headphones come from BB, all the better.

>Source
Laptop, Alienware 17.
In b4 tasteless normie. I mostly got it for warranty reasons. Thing has paid for itself several times over.

>Type of headphone
Full sized.

>Open or closed
Open. Had closed for years, more trouble than it's worth.

>Comfort level
Very important. I see myself wearing them upwards of 3-4 hours at a time. I wear glasses, so anything uncomfortable in the first place isn't very fun.

>Sound signature
I'm not too well versed on this stuff. I like. I generally go with whatever can give me the widest range.

>Past headphones
Mostly a slew of gaming headsets. Current headset is Logitech G430. I like the breathability and that the headband is cushioned. Been using a desktop mic for a while, so not concerned about its mic.

>>60545477
These are welcome here but not comfortable. Get Sony MDR-Q68LW for $30 or Sony MDR-Q38LW fo $15 if you dont want to go deaf in 5 years

>>60544358
HD 600s. Get the amp later.

>>60539263
If you need a mic, get a V-Moda Boom Pro. /csg/ found a $12 copy Boom Pro by Earmax recently with varying results.

>>60543514
What about Thonet&Vander?

>>60536751
:)

>>60544358
HD600 doesn't need a dedicated amp.

It also sounds better on a wider variety of sources as opposed to the HD598 which only work well on low impedance sources.

>>60539684
My 702's driver broke for no reason after 4 months. My 600's are perfectly fine after a year, even after stretching the shit out of my headband.

Really makes ya think.

>>60544358
600's and get a fulla 2 later, it's only 99$.

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Is it worth getting the nuforce HEM6 for $249 or the HEM8 for $329?

Can amplifiers actually sound differently? Picture two amplifiers, they both utilize different design and internal components, but both measure similarly. Hypothetically speaking, what other metric could cause these two amplifiers to sound differently?

>>60547648
Amps can either push a particular headphone properly or not, but some do sound different. For example, tube amps sounds incredibly warm compared to solid state amps. In terms of solid state amps, the fulla 2 sounds less harsh and and has a little more bass than the e10k. The difference isn't huge but the difference is there to hear when you use good headphones. You will always get fags here trying to tell you that every amp sounds exactly the same, and these people are usually the ones trying to defend the cheaper option, because they own it. Normies won't hear the difference with some amps, just the same as they can't tell between headphones, other than obvious bass differences.

>Budget
200-300 euro
>Location
Europe - dont really care what store
>Source
PC + DAC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
I'm fine with both
>Comfort level
very high
>Sound signature
Preferably leaning towards normal, but I'm not an audiophile so I probably won't hear the difference.
>Past headphones
B&W P7 - Loved these and they had great sound, too bad they broke. I want something cheaper for my next pair though.

>>60547648
There's four factors that matter on an amp: frequency response, distortion, noise and output impedance. Once all of these factors are beyond the threshold of human hearing on both amps, they will sound the same (transparent).

But yes, two amplifiers can sound different. Ideally you would want a transparent amplifier.

I would ignore what >>60548007 said.

>>60547648
>Can amplifiers actually sound differently?
Yes.
>different design and internal components
These are not a measurement of performance by any stretch of imagination. You often see people thinking performance as the technology used that's really just a means to an end. You don't need to know what goes inside the amplifier or any audio device for that matter. You only need to know what comes out relative to what was fed to it.
>both measure similarly
If you measured everything and the results are similar enough, they will sound the same. There are quantifiable but very complex and subjective limits to our hearing. This means you can have amplifiers which sound identical but measure very differently.
>what other metric could cause these two amplifiers to sound differently?
Our perception. If at any point you know more about the amplifier being listened than its sound, it all goes to the bin. If you want to know whether there is a perceivable difference at all, you have to double blind the listening test. That is, unless the amplifier is so bad that you can already quantify what is wrong with it by ear.

Amplifier performance is dependent on the load and loads differ. A good amplifier can drive a wide range of loads while maintaining high performance.

>>60547648
Ignore what >>60548096 said.

This seems like the right place.

What are some good sound cards?

>>60548007
>Amps can either push a particular headphone properly or not
Define properly.
>but some do sound different. For example, tube amps sounds incredibly warm compared to solid state amps.
That's wrong, there are transparent tube amplifiers.
>In terms of solid state amps, the fulla 2 sounds less harsh and and has a little more bass than the e10k. The difference isn't huge but the difference is there to hear when you use good headphones.
Sighted listening tests do not matter.
>You will always get fags here trying to tell you that every amp sounds exactly the same, and these people are usually the ones trying to defend the cheaper option, because they own it. Normies won't hear the difference with some amps, just the same as they can't tell between headphones, other than obvious bass differences.
You're retarded.

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>Budget
About 150 USD.

>Location
US and A.

>Source
Cellphone.

>Type of headphone
In-Ear.

>Comfort level
REALLY comfortable.

>Sound signature
Neutral / V-shaped.

>Past headphones
Shure SE215, Philips Fidelio X2, NAD VISO HP-50, ATH-M50

I want something to replace my SE215s. I don't find it all that comfortable. I probably want something with a straight down fit, since I don't really like having to run the wire over my ears.

>>60548214
>Define properly.
I mean getting the maximum out ofa specific headphone, you don't have to do this, but you should know what I mean.
>That's wrong, there are transparent tube amplifiers.
Fair enough, I don't know much about tube amps but it was just a basic example, again, most people understand this.
>Sighted listening tests do not matter.
Literally couldn't give a shit, I know what I'm hear. I agree you can hear what you want, especially when you have a predetermined view on how it should sound. That wasn't the case in the two amps I mentioned, and multiple others.
>You're retarded.
I'm right.

>there are people in this thread who thinks sighted listening tests are reliable in determining the quality of two amplifiers

Why is neo-/hpg/ such shit?

>>60548317
>he can't hear differences with his own ears
lmao

Also, stop acting like you're a different poster.

What are the best budget (sub $50) in-ears?

>>60548007
>push
Power limits are simple and defined by loudness and distortion.
>tube amps sounds incredibly warm compared to solid state amps
No. This is such a common an unfounded claim. There's no reason why tubes would sound any different than solid state if they have similar performance. Depending on what are being compared tubes could be better. A good tube amp does not have audible distortion or noise and it does have flat response. There are no other possible factors for warmth. Also, distortion is definitely not inherently warm. Mostly it's not, just terribly objectionable.
>the fulla 2 sounds less harsh and and has a little more bass than the e10k
You base this on what? More bass is objectively not true.
>when you use good headphones
Or not. You might just as well have better luck listening to amplifier's shortcomings with a very low quality pair of headphones because amplifier's performance doesn't relate too well to that of a headphone.
>Normies won't hear the difference with some amps, just the same as they can't tell between headphones
Everyone can hear differences large enough in frequency magnitude. It takes an exceedingly bad amplifier to mess that part up. Unless the listener that can quantify what is wrong with the gear, you don't assess amplifier performance by ear in sighted conditions. Even then the results would be very unreliable and unstable.

Experience with gear or spendings don't train you. They don't validate claims or explain what is going on. You can't rid the inherent biases our cognitive system. Nobody can focus on the sound alone unless you blind the test.

>>60548292
>I know what I'm hear
I wouldn't otherwise give a damn but since you made a claim based on what you heard under more than questionable conditions, I do.
>That wasn't the case in the two amps I mentioned, and multiple others.
So how did you control all the unconscious variables?

>>60548317
Novices and audiophools. Perhaps a combination of both?

>>60548351
You do know that if there is a perceivable difference between the Fulla 2 and the E10K, it can be quantified via measurements, right?

But you're gonna respond with your usual
>dude trust ur ears lmao xD

>>60548444
I obviously don't go by measurements, so can you tell me if they measure the same? do you actually know?

>>60548438
>audiophools
God I swear it's the same guy who says this term everytime. It's cringe worthy as fuck, stop

>>60548473
I don't have any measurements of both but the specs page of both products meet similar specifications.

Luckily you own both and a simple loaded RMAA test can be done to see if there is really a difference.

>>60548495
Don't remember typing that in a long time anywhere so I doubt it's. me. What other term should we use?

>>60548438
>So how did you control all the unconscious variables?

Obviously volume is the main one and I matched it as best as I could, don't worry I know what you're thinking and I get it. However, when vocals sounds thin and harsh on one compared to the other, no matter what volume range you're in, something is clearly different with said amps.

>>60548536
To your brain, yes. Vocals sound thin and harsh on amplifier 1 as opposed to amplifier 2.

But in reality, the signal being sent to the headphones by amplifier 1 and 2 are the same within human hearing.

So what causes this? It's expectation bias, and it influences how your brain perceives things. Check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

>>60548508
I'm not wasting my time with a test when I can hear the difference straight away. They're both cheap amps, if the e10k sounded exactly the same I would have sent the fulla back straight away. I'm incredibly happy with my setup.

>>60548286
Please help.

>>60548608
RE-400 / HF5 for neutral. Don't know any v-shaped IEMs. HF5 is very high isolation.
>>60548601
Enjoy your delusions I guess.

>>60548593
I agree with you on expectation bias and after trying a much more expensive amp than the e10k in the past, I agree with you. I didn't have any expectation of a sound difference when I bought the fulla 2 though, I bought it for the extra features. I was messing around comparing them as you do when you buy something new and it was obvious that female voices sounded thinner and more harsh than on the fulla 2. You won't believe me and we'll keep going around in circles so I might as well end it on this. Do you think that ALL solid state amps sound exactly the same as long as it's powering the headphone properly?

>>60548536
>something is clearly different with said amps.
In your test everything is just 'plausible' because you controlled literally nothing to properly test the gear by ear. That test didn't give us any information.
>thin and harsh
These would be vague descriptions of the frequency response but since you only apply them to vocals, it's unlikely to be simply that. it's even more unlikely given the response of both devices across the vocal range falls well under the just noticeable difference of human ears(0.2 dB). Needless to say this isn't how you quantify sound with words. You don't use or make up terms which can't be associated with what is heard reliably.

>>60548601
>I'm not wasting my time with a test when I can hear the difference straight away.
If you are confident with that, so be it. I won't argue because I can't possibly know what you hear.

>>60548686
>Do you think that ALL solid state amps sound exactly the same as long as it's powering the headphone properly?

Yes. It's not even what I think. It's a fact. But like I said earlier, your brain can be influenced by preconceived notions and other factors,

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>>60548641
Thanks a lot, anon.

>>60548739
>Yes. It's not even what I think. It's a fact. But like I said earlier, your brain can be influenced by preconceived notions and other factors,

Fair enough. Someone else has my e10k right now so I can't wait to compare them again, I was 100% sure in the difference last time. Even I know a lot of headfi are mental for example, but you're saying that all of them are fooling themselves when it comes to amps? as in, pretty much all of them?

What's your setup btw?

>>60548052
Anyone got time to give a recommendation? Would like to order a new one tonight.

>>60548052
>>60548846
HD600, the only thing is that the clamp is pretty tight when they're new. It takes a long time for them to loosen up, but you can bend the headband with slight pressure to relieve the tension straight away. Sounds daunting but it's not. There are videos on youtube. If you NEED bass, maybe look at the 650, it's practically the same headphone.

Audio-Technica ATH-M50X still worth buying? Or are there others more worth the price.

is bluedio the best chink headphone maker?

>>60548739
Considering the speed of all your other replies I'm going to assume that you don't want to tell me your setup. Interdasting.

>Budget
150-250$
>Location
Canada
>Source
FiiO X1
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
N/A
>Sound signature
N/A
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 598

Thinking about ATH-M40x & ATH-M50x.

>>60548813
My setup is pretty irrelevant. And yes, most of Head-Fi are fooling themselves, but at least they enjoy doing it.
>>60549111
Sorry for the late reply, I have a job, can't shitpost 24/7 like some of you do.

>>60549288
So after all that you won't even share your setup. I wasn't trying to question you, I was making conversation, and I was genuinely interested in what you mostly use. Ah well. You sound pretty defensive with that 'I have a job comment' it's well past 8pm where I live. I can do what the fuck I want.

The $30 PortaPros on Ebay are fake right?

What's the $200 hd600 equivalent?

>>60549075
>$150 USD
M40X + New pads
Custom Studio (DT770 80 drivers)
Maybe M100's?

Depends on what you want (Sound Signature, Home or Portable, etc.)

>>60549395
No idea but the real ones are stupidly good for the money.

>>60549488

Do they have decent bass?

Love my shp9500s but the bass is obviously non-existent.

>>60549782
lmao they have loads of bass lad. They are slightly muddy (compared to expensive full sized headphones) but the overall sound signature is amazing for the money. I bought a pair last week for the sake of it and I was surprised at how good they sound. Ended up buying a little circular protective case that they fold into nicely.

>>60536751
hello hpg. ive been learning bass and enjoy learning some songs i like, but i need better headphones. any recommendations under 90 dollars? thanks

>Budget
90 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Open or closed
You tell me, I'll take many suggestions and your personal opinions
>Comfort level
I use my desktop often so somewhat comfy

>>60549782
They have a lot of midbass though the sub bass extention is mediocre as it kinda follows the same graph as the 668B until the treble where it starts to get a bit dark. An amp helps with the midbass on the Impedence/Phase graph on the InnerFidelity graph.

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>Budget
$60-80

>Location
USA.

>Source
HP Laptop

>Type of headphone
Over the ear

>Comfort level
Extremely comfortable. Used for long listening sessions

>Sound signature
NA

>Past headphones
Some $30 chink replicas

I use my headphones to listen to entire albums at times so they need to be comfy. Also I watch a lot of long and drawn out films so I'll use for that too.

>>60550279
CB-1/XPT100

>>60549288
>>60549385

And there it is folks. This faggot know it all doesn't know, or own jack shit. If you're going to try to speak down on others with numbers please at least have decent equipment for fucks sake. What a fucking joke.

>>60550874
He's the equivalent of a 'qualified gym coach' who tells others how to workout, yet he hides his pathetic body behind his lame tracksuit, and He think he knows it all.He actually hasn't owned any good audio equipment lmao, what a fraud.

There were two people replying. I was the other one and I never got asked of equipment but this got me curious. What would have his equipment told us? What if he owned no headphones at all? Would the points raised suddenly be moot? Certainly not. They don't factor in here. If you just wanted to know what the guy owns without trying to judge what was said based on purchases, I'm sure he'll tell you. Try waiting as he seemed like a regular poster.

>>60549268
DT770 Pro 80 ohm is the way to go.
Way better than M50x

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Hello /hpg/
I already have HD650 but I saw these headphones on massdrop and was wondering what you guys thought about getting them as a second pair ?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones
how do they compare to the HD650 ?

>>60551167
You don't need a second pair. K7XX is a downgrade from the 650 anyway.

I have a pair of audio-technica ath-anc9 (noise cancelling) headphones with 100 impedance. Do the batteries that power the noise cancelling add enough power so that I don't need a headphone amp, or should I get a headphone amp? If so, what would be a good one in the $100-$150 range. I use an audioquest dragonfly dac too, if that helps.

Thoughts on Sony MDR7506?

>>60550874
>hurrdurr some dude won't take photos for me, how dare he!
You're trifling and petty.

>Budget
$30 to $40
>Location
USA
>Source
laptop/computer
>type
full over ear/closed
>comfort
as long as around the ear is padded it should be good
>past
HTF600 which stopped working without bending the jack a certain way.

>>60551164
Do I need an amp with my X1 to drive them?

If anyone could recommend a headphone stand from amazon for the hd800 I would appreciate it.

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>>60537934
Sure.

>>60552380
how do the 880's sound compared to the at's?

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24Bit enhanced remaster!

Shit amps like the E10K are colored and ruin sound. Anything past the fulla 2 is pure placebo

>>60549426
HD6XX
AKG 612

>>60552427
This.

>>60552427
Much more bass DT, everything sounds less thin, it's v-shapped so the mids are less present, overall closer to neutral imho, AD sounds much more spacious, since the mids are more present and the bass is very light i like it more for voice and acoust guitar recordings, metal sounds a bit anemic on it.

Knock knock

>>60552766
Who is there?

>>60552777
Orange who?

>>60552597
s/fulla 2/my budget/g

>>60552786
Orange who who?

>>60552806
Orange who glad I didn't banana?

;)

>>60552823
uh... 'snap'?

Sup guys.

I was wonder what are some good headphones for around $150? I'm used to my Apple earpods, so I want something that sounds similar or better. I also own a set of Beats because they were on sale-- I thought at the time it was a good cheap upgrade, but ultimately the sound quality didn't impress me. They sounded flat, so I want something to how Apple earpods sound, very clear and punchy.

Even a hint in the right direction would be nice.

>>60552953
dt 880, dt 990, hd 598, ath-ad900x

>>60553148
Thanks, will look into them. Really desperate for some headphones that sound similar and better.

>>60553189
I don't know how earpods sound, but those headphones all should sound very clear

>>60553214
Alright. They sound punchy and clear, certainly more than my Beats which sound kind flat to me-- not very dynamic in sound.

>>60553234
Which beats did you have?

>>60553397
Beats solo 2. I used an equalizer and it helped a lot, but it's still not as clear or punchy.

>>60553435
Equalizer settings?

>>60552823
AHHHHHH

>>60538284

Finder X1, with the black [reference] filter installed:

https://www.amazon.com/Echobox-Audio-Finder-X1-Fidelity/dp/B01F7Q7OWS

are hd380 pros good for a poorfag?

>>60553717
Closed? Yes, they're solid enough choices; Open? There are better options out there.

>>60552232
Should be fine, my phone drives them alright, can't get crazy loud but enough for me.

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cheapest dac+amp combo for headphones and speakers?

>>60553717
What are you using them for?

How good are the HD 598s? So far they are my top choice between the HD 558, dt 880 and M50x.

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what are some good cheap iems (50$) with a removable cable?

right now i'm on this but i have thought of the vsd3s

>>60553860
Fulla 2 has preamp outs for powered monitors.

>>60553717
I'd opt for CB-1 or m40x if you're looking for cheap closed. Equally good sound, CB-1 will be comfier.

>>60553908
They're barely an upgrade over modded 558s in my opinion, but if you want to go neutral, i'd either pick those or the 880s.

>>60554059
Thanks. I was really considering the HD 598s for a minute but after comparing and reading your comment I think I am going with the HD 558s.

"upgrade" to Status CB-1

or keep samsom SR850?

>>60553775
closed. nice.

>>60553892
Listening to music at work, general headphones stuff? I'm not an audio engineer or anything, just a mathematician in a crowded lab.

>>60553951
>CB-1 will be comfier.

Damn, I wanted comfiness over sound too. Oh well, i already got these closed 380 pros off reddit for

>Budget
looking for some solid bang for your buck but I'm willing to spend up to $100
>Location
USA
>Source
pc w/ a asus xonar soundcard, samsung phone, laptop in about a month because I'm gonna be moving around a lot
>Type of headphone
any full sized
>Open or closed
closed, I already have a good pair of open (ath ad500x) I use for gaming but I want something other than iems with isolation for travel
>Comfort level
anything but uncomfortable headphones
>Sound signature
nothing too bright I do want a good bass response but I don't want it to drown out other freqs
>Past headphones
ath ad500x (still using but want something with sound isolation), thinksound ms02 (I still have these but I'm ready to retire them for good full sized headphones with good isolation I find iems uncomfortable, also I feel like these are gonna break at any moment the build quality seems pretty fucking cheap even though they sound great)

>>60554140
Save up for something nicer

>>60548608
see
>>60553714

>>60554186
Enjoy the vice grip on your head friendo, unless it's tiny.

>>60554186
whoops, i meant to write I got closed 380 pros off reddit for $90 with a case. Good deal or nah?

>>60554243
I haven't noticed any discomfort so far and my head is pretty big.

>>60554140
CB-1 will be more neutral, less piercing highs.
Not much of an upgrade probably, but they're good if you need a closed pair.

>>60554229
What would be a good upgrade?

>>60554247
Yeah that's a good deal

>>60554211
change comfort level to comfortable what was I thinking the whole point of wanting full sized headphones over iems is comfort

also I would like headphones with a detachable cable if possible the ath ad500xs I have don't have a detachable cable and that causes me anxiety

>>60554290
yeah, want something nicer, closed.

What makes M50Xs a "meme"?

>>60554381

They are a meme because they were an above-average set at their original pricepoint. Then they got really, really popular, so the price went up with demand but they didn't magically become any better. People kept recommending them to everyone and their mother, even though they were no longer the value they originally posed.

A good comparison would be if the SHP9500 went up to $80-100 and people still hailed them as value kings.

>>60554381
They're popular and a lot of people don't like them

Top closed back headphones under $120? Mostly for watching movies and shows.

Have checked out these so far -
Status Audio CB-1
Sony MDR7506

>>60554421
Thank god I bought them at $60; literally no competition here in Canada. Even at $100, they'd still be half the price of other comparable headphones.

>>60554381
M40s are literally better at a cheaper price; I can't handle that fucking treble rape from the M50Xs.

What type of music do you guys listen to that has no bass on it?

>>60554381
What >>60554421 says, i've being here for years now, back in the day it was common to think of the M50 as a good competitor for the V6, now it costs much more so the price/quality ratio is pretty bad.

>>60554627
Acoustic guitar stuff.

>>60554627
April Rains, The Dead South, Glue Trip, The Northern Lights, Parades, etc.

>>60554673
based

What's the difference between KZ ATE's and KZ ATE S's?

>>60554453
HM5

My V-Moda LP's actually sound pretty decent after being burned in for a couple years. Anyone else have good/bad experiences with V-Moda?

>Budget
300 or so
>Location
US
>Source
PC, MP3, and possibly a record player.
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
I've only had closed, but I could go for open
>Comfort level
Comfort is important
>Sound signature
I listen to a lot of chillwave, psychedelic, post rock, and jazz. I listen to a lot of electronic music too, but it's not very heavy on the bass.
>Past headphones
Sony mdr7506, various shitty ear buds.

I'm mostly going to be wearing these while I lounge on the sofa or when I'm watering my plants and doing comfy stuff around the house. I want to get a record player eventually.

>>60555304
Burned in doesn't really work like that on headphones, Anon, it's more related to how you get used to a certain signature over time, but yeah, i have a M80 which i really like, sounds pretty punchy unfortunatelly after years of heavy use the pads are worned out, but i'm planing on ordering new ones, just saving first so i can order custom shields too.

>>60555357
HD650

The clamp can be a bit tight when they're brand new, but you can adjust it as much as you'd like, and after that it's very comfortable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U

>>60555422
Yeah I figured it was placebo

>>60554453
You can find DT770's for under $120 easily.

Is there any proof behind burn-in?

>>60556155
No, but Tyll made some measurements showing very little difference after hundreds of hours of burn-in, can't really find the link right now though.

>Budget
Less than $500, but flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Need to feel comfortable for hours
>Sound signature
No preference
>Past headphones
Shitty gaymur headsets

No Headsets, I want to buy a standalone mic too.

>>60556353
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition pham.

>>60550239
anyone?

>>60550239
>>60556582
they need to have good bass btw.

>>60556598
For $90 Canadian? I don't think such a thing exists.

>>60539541
i just bought ath-r70x over sennheiser hd600/650 after test listening and on recommendation from someone i trust

r70x is basically ath competing with hd600, which is a very good thing but is different from ad1000x

i'm really happy with them, but be aware they are slightly high impedance

>>60556598
Depends on what your definition of 'good bass' is.

>>60556649
;__;

>>60556662
When im listening to music albums id like to be able to clearly hear the bass guitar. I dont want the heaviness to completely take everything over, but it should be clear and distinct.

i also hear open headphones are nicer for using at home, which is where these headphones are to be used.

>>60556664
Sorry dude, but I don't think such a headphone can exist in a country where poorfag headphones can be found being sold for $200.

Does anyone know if the EDT990VB pads are any different from the stock silver pads on the DT880?
I need new pads and don't want the sound to change.

>>60545528
I know you said capped at 170 but if you can stretch to 199 the k7xx in black and black/red are currently on massdrop and that's what i would recommend as a k712 owner

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My M40x broke on me today (where it is circled), I taped it up as temporally fix and now I'm looking for a replacement.
My budget is probably 200 or so, and I live in Canada. I've been eyeing either the DT770s or HD598s.

Can anyone suggest something similar to my old pair?

>>60548846
I would also recommend the k712 pros here after seeing your comfort requirements

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most ultrapoorfag wanna be audiophile set up?

speakers, amp, dac, headphones, etc.

????

pos it

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Hi /g/, I have like $600 for some headphones. I'm looking for headphones with the best possible soundstage imaginable. What sort of headphones would be in that price range that I would like?

I know I could probably get some used Audeze LCD-2s for around that price, would those be good?

>>60556782
Do you need isolation Anon? Depending on that the suggestions might be very different.

>>60556805
Haven't the monolith 1060s kinda killed the high end planar market? For sound not build

>>60556782
770 is more of a direct upgrade, slightly more pronounced v shape, way comfier.
Might require an amp if your mobo or phone sucks.

598 is a completely different sound signature, and open. More likely to require an amp.

>>60556782
Depending on where you look you should be able to find some k545s around that price, that's a nice closed headphone

>>60556801
How poor we talking?
668b/558/SHP9500 and Micca PB42x would be pretty tolerable.

>>60556831
>Do you need isolation Anon?
Yes, I do.

>>60556844
Thanks for the info.
>Might require an amp
I've never set one up, is it easier than say, building a PC?

>>60556849
I'll look those up too.

>>60556882
>I've never set one up, is it easier than say, building a PC?
As simple as plugging in a USB cable. E10k is the cheap go to.
Fulla 2 if you want more connectivity options (better value) down the line as it can function as a DAC only and be used with speakers.

>>60556882
Setting an amp or separate amp/DAC up like a schiit stack? It's as simple as plugging in some RCA cables and whatever your input is. Also if you can't find the k545 I think the k535 is the same sounding but doesn't come with the media remote cables, not sure if anyone has ever found an audio difference

>>60556801
Whatever that skimps money on the headphones and goes for a shit stack while using meme poorfag phones.
I'm thinking something like a stack and HD598 or SHP950

>>60556882
if you need isolation the DT770 is the way to go, open-back headphones sound very nice, but isolate little to nothing at all.

>>60556879
like below $200 poor

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>>60556925
>>60556932
>>60556949
Thanks for the spoonfeed.

Would downloading a YouTube video as a FLAC file loss the music quality?

>>60556956
No it will sound good.

>>60556805
You could buy some new m1060s for half that price anon

>>60556943
>HD 598
>SHP9500
What makes something a meme headphone?

>>60556999
>What makes something a meme headphone?
The memes

Worth getting Sennheiser HD800S for €1150? They were lightly used by a bald and rich snob who after 2 days didn't like the sound quality so I was thinking of getting them for really cheap. Literally no scratches or blemishes and the pads look like new.

>>60556685
558 maybe?

>>60557254
Doubt it. The 558's bass is OK at best.

>>60556801
I gotchu. I've got 668B's with K240 velours and FiiO K1; still better than staticy motherboard audio and distorted bass/quiet front panel.

How good are RF headphones? Looking to connect one to my television, about 30 ft away. Wondering if it's even worth it, or if I would be better off running a cable around the room and spending a little more on detachable cable headphones.
Any suggestions for headphones for either setup? Price point would be around ~$150.

>>60556805
>best possible soundstage imaginable
used hd800's
akg 712

>>60548007
>>60548438
Tubes are not inherently warm, compared Valhalla 2 with a friend on A/B/X test, SS vs Tube vs Notebook in build amp, and didn't notice any warm sound on Valhalla 2, if something stock macbook sounded the 'softest'. Tubes in case of Valhalla 2 however added something to the sound besides increased sound stage on HD600. I don't know how to call it but there were more to the music than SS, I found it mostly pleasant. Heard little dot mk3 sighted, that thing sounded 'warm'.

>>60556879
>>60556943
>>60557284

OK lads, what about

Speakers:
>Micca PB42X
or
>Swans D1010 IV plus Lepy LP-2024A+ class T amp

Headphones
>Something closed, neutral preferably, plus a dac+amp like the FiiO K1

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to whomever suggested it:
thanks for the recommendation on the LZ-A4, very happy wit them

So I need earbuds for the gym plus my job. I don't want anything fancy, just something durable and muffled so people won't hear the offensive podcasts I listen to.

>Budget $20

>>60558469
Anything from KZ

are there any chinkphones that i can buy for like $30 that are like my $150 sennheisers?

>>60558812
Superlux HD681

>>60538284
Magaosi K3 pro

goes for about 110.

>>60536751
I purchased Audio technica ATH-50x yesterday.

And I'm wondering if I will hear a difference in quality if I buy an AMP/DAC.

The one I'm intresed in buying is Audioengine D1.
Will I even hear a difference?

>>60559755
fell for the meme >>60554381 >>60554421

>>60559755
>bought headphones yesterday
>will I hear a difference in quality if I buy an AMP/DAC.
You did it wrong, anon. You should have spent more money in headphones.
Even an entry AMP/DAC will be $70-100. If you compare that to the price of your headphones, it's too much. If you added that to the price of the headphones, you could have got something good. m50x is entrypoint.

I got ath m40x as my first pair
i find it very weird how wide you can open them
im scared that they will break if i open too much but im also curious
can someone show me a demonstration for science as to when they snap

>>60560293
I broke mine yesterday.
You can see my post here >>60556782

To give an estimate on when it snapped, it was when I stretching it as I was putting it on.
You can probably get away with maybe less than two head lengths of stretch.

>>60560318
Is audio snapnica the new meme?

>>60560323
I've had them for a long time.

>>60560332
Didn't stop the snapheiser meme from catching on.

Lads I need a new pair of headphones for work. The current shitty pair just isn't cutting it, mostly because they're open. Need a closed pair that offers good isolation. I'm autistic and outside sounds make it hard for me to concentrate. So I'd prefer something that would keep out most of the usual office sounds even if I'm not listening to music. I have a pair of Beyerdynamics DT880 Pros at home but they aren't closed and wouldn't be of much help. However they're comfy so would DT770s be a good purchase? Or is there something else in the same price range I should take a look at.

>Budget
~200€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Amp/dac plugged into a laptop
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Max /comfy/
>Sound signature
Preferably neutral
>Past headphones
Have a pair of DT880 Pros.

>>60560323
ath*snap*

>>60560391
DT770 is a decent choice if you like V-shaped sound.

Else Sennheiser HD380 Pro is more neutral, but still somewhat bassy.

>>60560391
K553

>>60560391
Max comfort would call for a DT770 but it's V-shaped. Comfort is subjective but a more neutral pair would be be DT250. How do you like the comfort and sound of the DT880?

>>60560564
That isn't neutral. You can't know what it is on anon's head actually. Could be V-shaped on ideas fit or it could have no bass at all.

>>60556999
Often, being popular.
Usually, like with the m50's, when something that was a great value gets popular, recommended a ton, and then the price goes up so it's not a value anymore.

>>60558123
For under $200, you can get the Miccas and CB-1 or XPT100.

>>60536751
>Budget
€150
>Location
Europe
>Source
AIM SC808 with 2x LME49720 + 1x LM4562NA operational amplifiers
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, but sound quality first
>Sound signature
Preferably v-shaped or neutral
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681, quite satisfied with them

>>60556779
Thanks. I'll check that out.

>>60556779
Damn, these are nice. I might grab them later today. Thanks for the tip again.

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Does anyone do active noise cancellation technology better than Bose?

If so, who?

>>60562771
MDR1000X is on par with QC35's, maybe slightly better/worse.

>>60560932
>>60560500
I can deal with V-shaped sound as long as they're comfy enough to wear 8 hours a day. I'm leaning towards the DT770s as the DT880s I have are comfy.

>Budget
$300~
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy to wear for hours at a time
>Sound signature
looking for something with a bit more bass than my current headset (HD 598's)
>Past headphones
sennheiser HD 598 for 3+ years now and another set that i lost

>>60563045
HD380 Pro is comfy, fwiw.

I wear them at work all the time.

>>60563090
The HD380 Pro mentioned above.

Else DT770.

>>60563157
thanks very much

ATH-M40x + Brainwavz Pads?

>>60562771
I hate Bose but their ANC is by far the best.
>>60563090
DT770, HD380 Pro isn't comfortable. The only Senns worth buying are the open ones, their closed headphones are garbage.

>>60538520
modern akg break after a couple months

>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
All day driver
>Sound signature
Neutral

Need either extremely good isolating IEMs or active noise cancelling to preserve hearing.

>>60536751
So how much more bass does the 650 have over the 600? is the trade off in clarity even worth it? Does it have a clear bump in sub bass or is it mostly mid bass bloat?

>>60563307
M40X + DT250/MSR7/Shure[840,940]/Auray Sheepskin pads.

i bought myself philips fidelio m2bt:s literally ten minutes ago for 150 euroshekels. i needed something i could use in public without looking like a massive autist (as i found out my akg k7xx:s do exactly this). How'd i do /hpg/?

>>60563888
I am also interested in this

>>60536896
I returned mine. I'm not saying they weren't good, but they didn't stand out enough for the price.

>>60564044
If you're used to HD600, the HD650 is just a worse HD600. Most reviewers that have both do say so.

And once you get used to either of the headphones, the bass is the same.

>>60564697
Thanks, I'm guessing using an eq to add a little bass to the 600 is a better idea than buying the 650 then? That way you can obviously revert any changes if you want.

>>60539730
You can absolutely get a pair of JBL LSR305s for $200 if you wait for a sale or buy used, and all they need is a 3.5mm to dual 1/4" cable.

>>60564758
Correct. Don't buy the second best headphone (HD650) if you can buy the best (HD600) and cheaper, even.

As for the EQ, I'd suggest using them for a month or two without EQ. Give its FR a chance before messing with it. I do not use EQ on mine; it's good as it is.

New thread now

Any of you headphone guys know why microphones keep breaking on my PC after about 2-3 weeks of use?
Just lost my 3rd set of headphone+mic combo today. The thing is I was extra careful with this set because it cost me 59.99. Every time after use I put it away in a secure box and never drank or anything near the mic.
Is my soundcard sending surges to break the mics or could this be a software issue?
I know this isn't exactly related to thread topic but you guys might know what's up so...

>>60551863
Nice build quality for the price, sound's okay, I found them incredibly uncomfortable, but if you're a headlet you should be fine.

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>>60564783
Cheers buddy.

>>60564783
>Best headphone
>HD600
Stop it

>>60563704
>[Sennheiser] closed headphones are garbage.

Why do people say this? I really like my HD598Cs and HD 380 Pro. What are they hearing that I'm not?

>>60554211
If you save up a little more HD6s are really nice for travel and will work in any laptop or phone. I use them on airplanes all the time and I've had them for the last 3 or 4 years and they have taken no real damage. They don't have any active sound dampening but if you have ever worn safety earmuffs that is a pretty good representation of what it is like to wear there, though the ear cushions are much more comfortable than earmuffs. Plus it comes with a two different detachable cable that can plug into the left or right ear.

Biggest con is that they eventually developed a creaking sound from the plastic pins, they can also be a little tight if you have a really large head or big ears that don't fit into the ear pieces.

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Welp, my superlux HD681 is dying after 5-6 years of service.

Should i get a HD668B or is there another headphone that is on the same price range and yet more robust ?

>>60565420
SHP9500