/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>60532934
I've got a corsair h60. Cheap watercooling loop. I don't know how to configure it properly because I'm an idiot. It keeps going from 0 to full and back and forth constantly even when I'm idling. It's annoying. What do

>>60532985
click on the smart fan and move around the values

>>60532268
Yes, exactly my point. Woosh.

>>60532381
>A $300 i7-7700 is not a whole lot better than a Pentium
okay...

>>60533705
>Yes, exactly my point. Woosh.
Do you understand that 1440p is larger than 1080p?

>>60532985
Is this at idle?
49C, at.. about 40% fan speed it looks like? 1757RPM?!
That's terrible if true.

My 1600X is at around 40C with just light gaming while twitch is going and I'm posting on 4chan, and that's at 1040RPM.

Grats on your housefirelake though, I guess.

Recommend me some good cases under $100.

>>60532934
Someone explain to me why logicalincrements.com is not in the OP?

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Fellas, I've got a conumdrum. Pic related (JUSB1) is the power connector for the case to the motherboard, but my current case's power cable does not match up with those prongs. Any way to work around this? Perhaps an adapter of sorts?

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where are the mini itx am4 mobos

>>60532985
Why'd you get a Z270 board if you only have 2400MHz RAM? There are so many mistakes here.

>>60533727
You're embarrassing yourself.

1440p puts less load on the CPU, not more.
1080p means higher frame rates, means more draw call per second, means a faster running main game thread.
The 290 will be bottlenecked so fucking hard at 1080p by a G4560, let alone 1440p.

>>60533745
Shill site that recommends bad hardware because they're paid to.
Leads to really bad builds that makes no sense like a z170 + i3-6100 + single SR DIMM + 550w crappy PSU + 64GB SSD.
But worse is the particular brands/models they recommend and how reading their guides will leave you more clueless than you were before visiting them.

>>60533838
>Shill site that recommends bad hardware because they're paid to
(((citation needed)))

>>60533793
That's for the usb case connection

>>60532934
Just a recommendation for the OP here but for people who plan on building a cheap computer with a G4560 it might be worth aiming for the G4600 instead since it's using a better iGPU and isn't that much expensive than the G4560.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Desktop_processors

But ONLY if you plan on only using the iGPU and not buy a GPU just to play Blizzard games and such. If you plan on buying a GPU anyway just go with the G4560.

>>60533793
Is there a jfp?

>>60533793
JUSB is for USB
JFP1 is for power & some other useless shit

>>60533909
Yeah, there actually is... I may or may not have misread the instructions.

What do you guys think about my build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mswj9W

I thought long and hard about which way to go about it in terms of hardware and decided to go the Ryzen route.. I will primarily be gaming, but I will also be doing some multitasking. Currently I have a 1600x900 60hz monitor which I will be switching out in the near future for a slightly better one, maybe 144hz or less to get a better experience on CS:GO, currently I play CS:GO, LoL, some crappy asian FPS games, but I am looking to play BF1, ArmA 3 DayZ, H1Z1, GTAV, Overwatch and some upcoming games later this year. Any recommendations with peripherals for FPS games and should I keep the mobo or go with a full size one? Will there be any issues if I keep the mobo that I chose in terms of upgrading?

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>>60533745
Because no, pumping more money into a build doesn't make it better
List i5 7600k as outstanding build while the R5 builds are at best "Excellent" (worse)
List R7 1700 as Enthusiast which is better than 7700k's Exceptional, when the choice between those two depends entirely on the usage

There is no logical steps anymore. That was maybe true when intel was dominating and we had the same shit slightly more powerful the more money you pumped in, but when Intel & AMD have different advantage & disadvantages it's very stupid to believe these are some sort of increments you can do.

It's shit.

>>60533742
define C or S

jeremy
motherfucking
thorn

I just put together the following g4560
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pw6N4C

Now I'm looking for a gpu. I've been looking at the 1050 ti sc for around $120 but wondering whats the next step up from that up to $170

>>60532934
Is that Namasensei you bitch?

>>60534271
IT IS! KANPAI YOU MOTHERFUCKER. I hope that mother is doing well

>>60534237
>but wondering whats the next step up from that up to $170
AMD RX 470 or RX 570

>>60532934
Is 2400mhz of ram enough for a Ryzen CPU?

>>60532934
good op

>>60534293
Been years but going to watch his videos now you FUCK!

>>60534325
I meant to say is

Is 2400mhz ram fast enough for the ryzen?

>>60534393
He started making DOTA videos on YouTube but then he removed all his shit (he claimed he was hacked but let's be real)

how does this look guys? I think I am close to pulling the trigger.

>R5 1600
>GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3
> 2x8 3200Mhz Corsair vengeance
>GTX 1070
> 256 GB samsung 850 evo ssd
>750W PSU
>Full Tower Case

1) Would I get disappointed with the 1600 fps wise?

2) Do NVMe SSDs really don't matter that much when you need a fast OS?

3) I would assume th extra space from the full tower case is better at cooling and air flow or should I go mid tower?

Thanks

>>60534435
also, which is the best brand for the GTX 1070? Rog strix, armor, windforce, gaming?

>>60533816
biostar

>>60534435
>1) Would I get disappointed with the 1600 fps wise?
no. link below related
>2) Do NVMe SSDs really don't matter that much when you need a fast OS?
Not much of a difference to be honest. Just stick with a 2.5" SSD
>3) I would assume the extra space from the full tower case is better at cooling and air flow or should I go mid tower?
Nothing wrong with a mid-tower, even for cooling. It's the most popular type of case size for a reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVPXFxOvQa4

>>60534487
No. Avoid Biostar like the fucking plague.

>>60532934
Does nvidia have some kind of registering bullshit for their gpu drivers?

I'm planning to get an RX 580 and a monitor but I'm having a hard time figuring out which. Is freesync useful for locked and stable 60fps? I'm guessing 1440p ultrawide is a bit much? I looked at a couple of benchmarks and while they definitely don't reach 60 maxed I have no idea how lowering the settings a bit would affect things. I've read a lot of people say 27" is ideal for 1440p, is that accurate or should I consider 24" or 32" as well? Thanks for any info.

I'm currently saving up to buy a PC. What is a ballpark estimate of how much I need to save for something that can game at a high (but not necessarily top-end) level and stream?

>>60534395
yes. you don't need higher for gaming unless you want high framerates.

>>60534092
it's basic information for people who don't have 100 hours to study those subtleties before buying parts

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I just obtained the case of an IBM PC 300 GL and I'm going to put new gaming hardware inside.

My main problems will be the cooling. I'm going to use an uATX board to have more place for fans. But once the case arrives I'm going to measure anything. Still I think watercooling would be impossible.

Any suggestions / hints?

When is the best time to build a PC in the coming months?

>>60534671
with R5 1600 and 580 8GB you're looking at give or take 800 without a monitor

>>60534853
, if you can wait that long, the best time of the year to order all your parts is on Black Friday

>>60534867
just how discounted will it be?

I don't really trust discounts. The stores just manipulate the prices to "seem" that there's a discount when there actually isn't one

>>60534905
write prices down now, use the trends on PCpartpicker etc.

>>60534905
to give an example, last year, an Intel Core i7 6700K went for around $275 on Black Friday. That's about $50 off on just the processor before getting to everything else.

>>60533872
((((((((((shut up dumb shill)))))

>>60534779
>Any suggestions / hints?
Not really, just good luck? Are the standoffs for a uATX even going to line up with that case? IBM/Dell/etc have some weird proprietary bullshit going on in their cases sometimes, especially from shit back in the 1990s. Doubt you'd be able to fit a rad in there without serious modification so yeah, water is probably out of the question.

How good of a deal is this monitor?

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16824236785?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL032617REC&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL032617REC-_-EMC-032617-Index-_-index-_-N82E16824236785

>>60534779
would something like this fit for a rear exhaust? http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-series-h5-sf-low-profile-liquid-cpu-cooler
There's also some smaller rear exhaust coolers that the dell SFF PCs use like this one http://www.ebay.ie/itm/231616825089
But it will probably require some DIYing to get to fit in that case and i dont know if it has standard intel screw placement.

>>60535256
Do it.

Does overclocking (increasing voltages) void the motherboard warranty?
I need to create a support ticket but I'm afraid.

>>60533745
logicalincrements used to be useful a few years ago when the landscape was much simpler. He's tried to compensate for this by adding several more tiers but really at this point it's just making it more complicated than it needs to be. At any given point in time there are only a handful of core components worth buying depending on what you're going to be doing.

Noobs would be better off just going off of pcpartpicker builds that can be retarded on occasion but more often than not make much more sense than going straight across a tier list on LI.

Been looking to build a little ITX server at home.

Currently I regular:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/
craigslist
ebay

any other i should frequent?

Any tips for building a little home ITX server? THe more drive bays the better but 2 should be just fine for an eventual SSD+HDD
Currently looking at this case:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84EA0391

Rate my build?

Made a bunch of protif via Ethereum and Bitcoin, looking to build the best i can get for 1440p gaming at 120fps+

Any recommendations?

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zBDN4C
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zBDN4C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($459.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Riing RGB 360 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($263.96 @ NCIX)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($279.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4266 Memory ($359.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4266 Memory ($359.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 960 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($898.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($344.44 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($344.44 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($1099.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case ($249.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair - 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($289.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus - BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($79.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: NZXT - Aer RGB140 (3-pack) 71.6 CFM 140mm Fans ($99.97 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($1079.99 @ NCIX)
Other: CableMod WideBeam Magnetic LED Strip RGB Kit - 60cm / 30 LEDs ($43.98 @ NCIX)
Total: $6463.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-22 17:13 EDT-0400

>>60535256
>https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16824236785?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL032617REC&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL032617REC-_-EMC-032617-Index-_-index-_-N82E16824236785
Refurbished but still $280 for 1080p?
Gsync idiot tax is insane.

>>60535462
>360mm AIO
>32GB RGB RAM
>960 pro
>1000w PSU
>bluray drive
>RGB fans
It's trash and you deserve it.

Are Ryzen CPUs shit with emulators?

>>60535541
no

>>60535462
>$6K canabux can't even get you on HEDT

But seriously, at least get on X99 if you're building a high end PC. Z270 is dead in the water, at least AM4 has a future to it. It's actually a kinda horrible time to build a super high end PC with Computex right around the corner and X299 coming out.

Also
>Gsync
>$100 for three (3) fucking fans
>1000W PSU
>full tower
w3w laddy you're falling for quite a few memes there

>>60535256
>(((((Refurbished))))) monitors
You realize someone else complained about something on those monitors and they're just trying to pawn it off instead of throwing it in the trash, right?

>>60535541
They're not shit but the lower single core performance does make them less good than skylake.

7600k or 1600?

>>60534083
What about cooler

>>60535646
>processor that has spikes to 100% usage in AAA or processor that doesn't but has the same / slightly better FPS

eye dont know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

>>60535646
>the year of our Lord 2017
>i5 anything

I haven't built a PC in like 5 years

What's the best GPU for a linux setup these days

>>60535646
>4c/4t was the thing to get in 2011
>hey lets buy that still in 2017 xDDD
Did you buy a Pentium 4 single core in 2008, too?

>>60535738
AMDGPU open source is better than Nvidia non-free in some cases, but a bit worse on average. Works fine, just not quite the performance on unpopular games.
On popular games, it can be way better. Like Fury X matching 1080 good.

I'm personally waiting for Vega and hoping those GPU virtualization features are on the consumer cards as well so GPU passthrough can be done on a single card.

>>60535709
>>60535738
>>60535747
Ok guys stop pls I understood

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what's a good monitor to buy

>at least 23 inches
>144hz

also, is the RX570 a decent upgrade if I'm still coming from a 7850?

>>60535848
>is the RX570 a decent upgrade if I'm still coming from a 7850?


Anything coming from a gpu weaker than 1050ti to AMD's 4xx/5xx is an upgrade more if you're upgrading to 5xx except 550.

>>60535570
PSU for future expandability (2nd GPU potentially), the fans i can easily remove if i find other options, full tower for better airflow, what's wrong with gsync?

>>60535848
Yes the RX570 is ~ 3x faster I think.

>>60535512
what's wrong with the cooler and what do you mean by AIO? looking for information as im not very experienced with high-end parts

>>60536003
AIO is a collective term for an ALL IN ONE water cooling system with radiator and fans

What is the best ram to pair up with the ryzen 1600? I know that it benefits from faster speeds but some people have issues getting their ram up to speed. Is it the speed or latency that matters more?
This one has a higher latency https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231941&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Compared to this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232298&cm_re=gskill_ram-_-20-232-298-_-Product

Is there a big difference between series 4 and 5? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231873&cm_re=gskill_ram-_-20-231-873-_-Product

This is the mobo I was gonna get for the build https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144029&cm_re=msi_pc_mate_b350-_-13-144-029-_-Product

>>60536026
is there anything wrong with it? I plan to overclock my CPU so i assumed i would need tome top-notch cooling

>>60535570
full tower is not a meme for full builds.

>>60536092
speed matters much more than latency for ryzen

>>60536100
Water cooling is more capable than air cooling. Why the hell do you think air cooled cars aren't a thing anymore? Almost every single car out there, excluding some exceptions designed from the 1930's to 1960's, have been water cooled.

On the upside, cooling performance is fantastic. On the downside, when you're done, it takes a while for the temperature to come back down because water doesn't transfer heat quickly.

>>60534704
it's shitty information for people who don't have 100 hours to study those subtleties before buying parts

>>60535462
Drop a sata ssd in there too for os and things that don't benefit as much from the nvme superfast speeds
Cut down on looks and drop a second gtx 1080 ti for sli considering you just want the highest end out
there might as well buy an htc vive while you're at it.

Are 8GB of RAM enough for moderate gaming?

>>60536283
yes

>>60536283
It's enough for high end too, people generally just buy 16 just to be safe because it doesn't feel nice hitting 90% ram usage.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqgCPs
Is this good build or can i get it cheaper else where?

Do I really need 3200mhz ram for gaming on Ryzen?

>>60536316
There is no benefit to an m.2 drive over a normal ssd

>>60536293
>>60536306
Ok thanks

>>60536316
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqgCPs
It's okay consider waiting until 31 of may for vega release date and if it is somewhere in june
get that over gtx 1080, considering you're building on a budget your wallet will thank you if
you avoid g-sync. Also consider sata ssd over nvme if you don't plan to do any specific task
that benefits from those high speeds, you will notice no difference otherwise.

>>60536339
No.

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>>60536136
Watercooling for computers is literally fucking shit tier compared to the works of what cars do, if you actually want good cooling without resorting to some big water loop meme, go for freon cooling.

>>60536350
Friendly reminder that if you're running 8 GB you still want 2 sticks of 4 GB so you can run in dual channel.

>>60536339
Need?
no
Does it benefit Ryzen's performance?
yes
If your budget allows both 3200mhz and r5 1600 go for it if going 3200mhz forces you to
a lower ryzen then stay at 2400mhz.
I personally think it's worth the extra ~30$ for the higher speed on a ryzen build.

>>60536363
>not installing a fridge heatsink to your rig.


.

Last time I posted someone suggested I upgrade my ram. I have a 2600k and 8gb of 1333mhz ram right now. What speed should I get? I don't want to overspend on DDR3. Aiming for 1440p60 which is hopefully doable with the cpu and a RX580.

>>60536363
>-10C=50F
isn't 0C=32F though

>>60536425
Don't bother spending on anything else than gpu, just upgrade everything
else when there's a meaningful upgrade to do like the 4c/4t model getting
outdated for games you wanna play or if you want to do any workstation
stuff on your pc. Would recommend if you don't already have a 1440p
monitor to just buy rx 570 4gb and stick to 1080p you'll have a more
compact experience considering your setup. Then with the money
you save you can probably make a bigger jump in the future.

>>60536379
I think the issue is compatibility. Even modules listed on the QVL can still not run at the rated speed. I think I'll go with 2400 for now and wait until a bios update fixes the bullshit.

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>7 months ago upgrade to 16gb ram
>for the past month programs have been crashing and my computer has been blue screening and it says the error is "memory_management"
>memory diagnostic says everything is fine
>get fed up and downgrade back to my old 8gb ram
>the PC fails to boot
>keep trying and eventually it works
>PC runs fine after that with no crashes or BSODs

I then went into my UEFI options to try to find clues and discovered that my UEFI has this boot failsafe thing where if it fails to boot 3 times it will load the bios with the original settings. So that thing is the only thing saving me from being able to use my computer right now. I wish I knew what these original settings were so.

>>60536490
New agesa bios update is already in beta for crosshair vi and actually improves ram support as well as ram speeds, at least wait 1-2 weeks like i will to see how that goes.

>>60536607
Not like it'll be super pressing either. from what I understand ram speed matters a lot more for gaming on higher end GPUs, and less so on my 1070

>>60536339
At 60-100fps, or just for shit like CSGO that gets 250+fps no matter what? No, 2666 is fine.
But if you're trying to push 144+ across many more demanding games, you need all the extra you can get.

>>60536351
Is the vega card equivalent to the gtx 1080?

Would this be a good buy? Currently using a 660. It is refurbished which is eh, but it's only 130

Would I notice a difference in upgrading or should I keep saving for the 1080.

https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIABRD55F4105?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL052117REC&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052117REC-_-EMC-052117-Index-_-index-_-9SIABRD55F4105

>>60536444
My guess is either the built in calculation either cant handle negatives or it's actually 10 degrees because 50F is 10C

>>60536701
No, better.

>>60536705
Why the fuck would you pay $130 for a 960? It's maybe worth $30.
A 1050Ti or RX560 is better.

>>60536705
That's a terrible deal. A 1050 ti is slightly faster than a 960 but has 4GB of VRAM and is cheaper than that.

How do I overclock my i5 2500k?

>>60536778
In the bios only if you have a P67, Z68 or Z77 motherboard.

>>60536474
I don't mind waiting and can put some more money into it if it's not smart to upgrade the current setup. In that case I'd probably want to go for a RX580 early and get the rest later. I don't generally play demanding games or mind lowering settings when I do (been doing that for years already anyway) but I'd really love to have Tekken 7 maxed in 1440p, so I can hopefully skimp on some parts since I have a clear target and I'm not that concerned with futureproofing and upgradeability.

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What components are you uncertain of or want to know more on? I'm doing a pastebin for SATA SSD recommendations right now and want to know if people want the infodump

>>60536828
Well, if you have a 1440p monitor already go for it, the reason why i'd recommend staying at 1080p is because we are waiting for freesync 2 and also rx 570 4gb will be able to run that game maxed out at that res maybe get rx 570 8gb for 1440p if that game isn't really as demanding as other AAA titles. Generally when it comes to price/performance rx 570 4gb is the king of performance per $

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okay guys, after many weeks of contemplating building a pc i have finally decided to start purchasing parts this Friday. my budget is 900 dollars. It has to perform flawlessly for school and light gaming. IE: Civ, Rocket League maybe some FPS's later down the road. How does this build look?

>>60536910
a budget psu guide would be nice,
also an advanced ram guide would be great too,
for your sata ssd recommendations consider
just making a list of ssds most people might
find questionable that are actually proven to be
great value for money options.

>>60536739
Ive been reading about it and it says that it wouls be pretty expensive as it is aimed at researchers not for gaming
>>60536351
What sata ssd should i use. This is my first time building a pc so i dont know much. Im currently using someone elses build

Do germans call motherboards "fatherboards"?

>>60536958
oh god that's terrible
at that budget you can probably pull off
a very respectable ryzen build that will
be much superior to this both for gaming
and workstation stuff
But you can probably build a 400$ g4560
build that will do everything you mention
flawlessly so it depends really.

>>60536960
>a budget psu guide would be nice,
I wish I could contribute to that, but my knowledge of capacitor quality and PSU contents are lacking. I should probably study some EE textbooks I've got laying around. I'll probably start looking into 80+ and 80+ Bronze PSUs to start with.
>an advanced ram guide would be great too
"Advanced" as in? There aren't that much more you can know about RAM other than where the flash is made (SK Hynix, Samsung, Micron, etc), the process it's made on, and who slaps the flash onto PCBs. Info on the effects of CAS timing and latencies are already out there, and it's really basic as is.
>just making a list of ssds most people might
find questionable that are actually proven to be
great value for money options.
I've got several in the first dozen SSDs by size and flash type categories. Mushkin, PNY, and ADATA, mostly.

>>60537032
woah okay i clearly don't know what i am doing. i did not know it was even bad. they are all good parts and stuff

>>60536958
NVMe drives are not faster for gaming and you can get a 2TB drive for under $60. Stop being retarded.

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>ups guy just dropped this at my door
Should I get the fire extinguisher ready?

>>60537061
i don't know what im doing

>>60536927
Ah, this was posted today. I'm not sure how informative it is without the rest of the setup or knowing how effortlessly it reached 60 fps.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/tekken-7-pc-geforce-gtx-1060-1080-ti-recommended
How do the 570 models rate compared to the 1060? In any case I think you're right that the 570 is the better choice in my situation, even if 1440p might have to wait.

>>60536958
Drop the motherboard for an H110 ITX. You're losing almost nothing with an H110 chipset over the much more expensive H270 chipset that loses over half its features over the H110 anyway due to the ITX form factor. ASRock makes an excellent H110 ITX/ac motherboard.
You can always buy a second 8GB DIMM later, so ignore the idiots complaining about using a single DIMM. You're only using half the memory channels, but you can always install a second identical RAM stick later.
I don't think you'll benefit that much from an NVMe drive if you're just playing games on it. You need an SSD with higher read speed, which the lowly Intel 600p delivers sufficient amounts of.
$50 for a 1TB 7200rpm drive seems like $5 too much IMO.
The Phanteks case is XBox huge, poor quality, and overpriced.
You don't need an 80+ Gold PSU. 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod is fine for your build because you're not leaving it on 24/7 nor are you stressing the PSU by very much with the hardware you have now.

With the $80 or so you've saved by dropping needlessly expensive parts, you could buy a GTX 1050 or RX 560.

>>60536979
Samsung 850 evo is pretty good but Crucial kingston and corsair make good ones too just buy whatever is cheapest per gb in your area. Consider 500gb over 250gb if you're willing to invest.
>>60537039
It's just often that people making budget builds having trouble finding that perfect semi/non-modular 80 plus bronze psu that is actually made of quality material.
>"Advanced" as in?
For example ryzen builds benefit from ram speed much more than they do from low cas and they could also use a list of proven rams that run at higher speeds atm considering the issues alot have been having with their ryzen builds. Also that low cas benefits intel builds. And what the sweetspot of price/performance is for higher speed rams and how should one handle their budget for that matter.
>>60537049
i5 7500 was decent value for money but for not much more you can do alot better now that ryzen's out. Considering the use you wanna do a ~500$ g4560 build with a rx 570 4gb would even allow you to do some high end gaming as well(at medium/high depending on game).

>>60536513
>tfw fell for the 16gb of RAM meme

>>60537154
Hope you didn't buy it in ddr3 era

>>60537129
i willtry to decifer your information, i dont know what a chipstet is shit. i just know what i want i just dont know how to get to it. thank you for the help though

>>60537154
You need at least 32gb to just do Cinebench,

>>60537203
You dumb nigger
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2VRbzM
I saved you ~$20 even with an RX 570

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My current psu is 300w, low quality and smells like burning plastic. Should I replace it with a seasonic M12II Evo 520w? Or are there better ones for ~50usd?

how bad of a bottleneck would my i5-2500k be if I get a 1060 or a 580

>>60537313
Mild bottleneck in highly threaded games, just like any i5.

>>60537308
>smells like burning plastic
replace it now you fool

Well, i have all the parts. Pretty nervous for assembling it. I really don't want to fuck this up. Is it pretty easy to fuck your hardware with accidental static discharge? Or accidentally placing the cpu at an angle?

>>60537349
Read the question again, I'm looking for recommendations.

>>60536958
Like someone else mentioned, this is an absurd waste of $780 and very bad build.

>>60537165
I did. I got 16GB in 2011. As I started to use my PC more for work, I was hitting over 90% usage of that and even 100% frequently.

>>60537313
Terribly bad. My i5-2500k bottlenecked the fuck out of my 7970 in newer games, and the 580 is twice as fast as that.
I was thinking I needed both a new CPU and GPU. Now that I got a 1600X, I could really probably go a year or two without a new GPU but I'll probably buy Vega anyway once there's a good 4K HDR10 120hz+ monitor to go with it for sale.

Alright /pcbg/, I Have two r9 280xs in crossfire, biggest mistake was purchasing the second r9 280x because it just never gets used by games. I'm planning on selling it on eBay at $115. Is this an good idea?

>>60537371
>crossire two old shitty cards
for what purpose

>>60537313
At 1080p, mild to moderate depending on the game.
At 1440p or higher the GPU would be the limiting factor.

>>60537296
thanks man

>>60537363
Yeah, that's a very good PSU for the money.

>>60537389
I had them in crossfire a couple of years ago, why would anyone crossfire them now.

>>60537371
It's ebay, put it on auction and it will sell for however much it's worth.
You'll only waste your time setting a high starting bid

>>60537308
You can get the M12II Evo 520w for $30 on sale sometimes. Yeah go for that. I have one and it's an amazing PSU for $50 or less. Nice quality, quiet, works upside-down, etc.

>>60537371
If you can get $115. They usually go for about $85 I think. But sure either way.

>>60537507
>>60537464
On eBay they are trending at $125 apparently.

>tfw fell for the 144hz meme
>tfw can't play at 60hz because it just feels too slow
>tfw want to upgrade to 4k

I would be happy getting even a 75hz 4k monitor if it had freesync. When will this come out?

>>60537559
Some will be, some will not be.
You should never set a starting bid that close to what other people are selling their things for in general because it attracts less attention than somehting that works it's own way up to that price for one, but sellers will also be looking at things like the particular make and model of the card and how much feedback you have as a seller which can lower what you should expect.
Also i dont know how you calculated that trend, i'm seeing quite a few go for under $100 in completed listings. You're definitely being optimistic if you think you can ignore those.

>>60537559
The RX560 is almost as good performance but is new with warranty for $100-$110, and like 1/5th the power consumption.
Maybe some certain 280X models do go for that, but you shouldn't be too attached as it'll only go down in value as you sit on it.

>>60537720
the r9 280x is more or less powerful then the 1050ti, and that's more powerful then the rx 560

>>60537791
I said almost.

>>60537362
Exceedingly easy, unfortunately, just fucked up my 7700k 1080ti rig from doing so.

>RX 580 4GB
>in stock on June 1st
Just fucking kill me already

I'm having difficulties installing Win7 on my MSI B150I mobo -> Intel SSDPEKKW512G7X1 (600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive).

It's proving to be a superbitch. Used MSI's tool for Win7 install disk, throwing NVME drivers on the usb (disk) and installing from that - all seems to go well, but I get a boot sector error when Win7 tries to launch from it.
Twice now.

I used a Linux LiveUSB to make the NVME card GPT, but that didn't fix a damn thing.

Is the issue just that I need to run the MSI tool on my Win7 USB disk again and re-do? Am I a meme for thinking NVME wouldn't cause me any issues?

>>60538150
Why are you trying to add NVMe drivers for an SSD that's not NVMe?
Why did you buy literally the worst SSD, too?

Oh, I mean you bought an i5 or something so I guess you just make bad decisions.

>>60538150
>600p Series 512GB M.2-2280
nvm it is NVMe. An NVMe that's slower than SATA SSDs. But costs more just because why not. lol.

>>60538197
I dunno lol
I'm gonna buy a WD Blue 2.5 SSD (250GB) for booting off of on regular ol' SATA and forget about the Intel drive until I can get it working IN Windows

Thank for you telling me the issue, though. Troubleshooting in the dark is really aggravating - at least I know I made a bad purchase. ---> >>60538209 to you, as well

>>60538219
Na that wasn't the issue. It is an NVMe; I was wrong. I just thought it wasn't based on benchmarks I've seen that show it slower than cheaper SATA SSDs.
So you do need NVMe drivers, I'd guess.

>>60538237
Hmm... I did try explicitly shoving those NVMe drivers onto my install stick via the required tool to do so - I don't really care to go through the 1-2 hours it takes to write to that thing (it's been through a lot of writes, probably going to fail soon)
So a new drive will have to do.

Thanks for the clarification, though

Any tips for buying stuff on craigslist and eBay? I found this 980 for only $200. I doubt he'd want me to meet at his place to test it and I don't want to get scammed.

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/sop/6088379023.html

Should I go for the Gigabyte B350-Gaming 3?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128991&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Or this ASRock x370?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157769&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The price difference isn't much; is it worth it to get the x370 for better VRM's to overclock a 1600?

could use some advice, right now I have a ryzen 1600 paired with an asus x370 pro mobo. Brand new build on all components.

The motherboard whines like crazy, already returned one and got a second one, still whining, even when idling. Should i try to replace the cpu? should i blame the psu? its a corsair cx550m brand new. should i opt for another motherboard?

>>60533745
the shills won and removed it from the OP.

>>60538484
Neither.
That x370 has terrible memory support and that B350 has worse VRMs than a similarly priced MSI or Asrock B350.
Also you dont need more than a 4+2 phase VRM setup to overclock ryzen 5, 3+2 is enough to max out the quadcore ones. X370 is for finer OC controls like base clock adjustment which can help get cheaper memory than the flare Xs up to higher frequencies and per core overclocking. For basic (but still ~4GHz capable) overclocking B350 is fine

>>60535462
>RGB
Sorry, not helping underage little kids

>>60535462
>7700k
Good goy

Any thoughts? Going for high game settings at 1080p, right now just have a 60Hz but will try and get a 144Hz monitor in the future.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DMHLLD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DMHLLD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($333.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($109.23 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill - N900PCE PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($27.78 @ Amazon)
Other: Ducky One TKL Blue LED Mechanical Keyboard (Brown Cherry MX) ($99.99)
Total: $1638.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-22 22:44 EDT-0400

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still waiting for my cryorig AM4 mounting bracket to upgrade to an 1800x

>>60539245
Get faster memory, you could get 2666 for the same price. Also your wifi card doesn't support 802.11 a/c. And your psu is a meme.

>>60539245
1TB HDDs are incredibly overpriced. You can get a 2TB for around $15-20 more than that and 3 and 4TB are the sweet spot for $ per GB
And that power supply is stupid. Too much power and platinum efficiency is not worth it and not even assured.

I have a rig at about 444w with a 1080ti and a 1700X. Does a 750w psu give enough breathing room for overclocking? Should I go higher?

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Just finished putting together what I think is the most cost effective pc for multitasking and gaming at 1080p 60hz, with good futureproofing for the next few years. No overclocking, and don't want a SSD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cvf43F

Some of you may recommend the 8gb rx 580 over the 6gb gtx 1060, but I haven't been able to find a 580 in stock for a reasonable price. I'm wide open to suggestions for a better value for my purposes, and the budget is flexible up or down

>>60539437
750 is plenty

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apparently the cpu and cooler are shit, what do
plz dont blow up the price too much in the process

>>60539437
You have more than enough for overclocking.

>>60539449
Get some faster ram, it really makes the difference with ryzen.

>>60539245
>>60539292
>>60539399
Alright, will take that into consideration.

Also for overclocking, should I get a better CPU cooler/more case fans? Not gonna go crazy overclocking, will just do some modest stuff probably.

>>60539482
I just noticed that and switched it out for a 2400 version at $5 more, though I don't suspect I'd ever notice the difference to be honest

>>60538516
one other thing i noticed. the gpu buzzes too under load, but does NOT buzz when i simply turn the fans on, so its not a squeak issue.

i will probably buy another PSU in the meantime, any reccs? I have a corsair now but apparently its not that good. i only need <600W

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>parts came today
>put everything together on cardboard before putting it inside of case
>pic related with an i7
>nothing happens
>only shitty techno led lights turn on
>powerbuttons no responsive
>psu, cpu fans not spinning
>no vga output
Help me /g/...

>>60539612
no post? no beeps? ram installed properly? gpu getting power? cpu fan installed?
jfp's all in?

>>60539638
Yes, I checked everything all power cables in and cpu/ram installed slowly and carefully.

>>60539612
ram needs to be pressed harder than you think

>>60539612
Unplug and plug everything back in except for CPU, if that doesn't work then also CPU, if that doesn't work contemplate suicide then RMA the motherboard or something.

>>60539662
me too

>>60539722
IDK really contemplating sudoku...

So what's a good 2TB 7200 rpm HDD these days? And don't fucking say Seagate, fuck Seagate.

>>60539960
Hitachi Deskstar

>>60539960
whats wrong with seagate, i just bought a 2tb 7200rpm...

>>60540188
rip

Currently running an i5 2500k and a 7950
which one should I upgrade first?

>>60540503
Graphics card, assuming you'r overclocking your 2500K.

>>60540507
i have not. I actually have a decent cooler so i probably should.

>>60540503
As the other guy said you'll see an improvement with a GPu upgrade, just dont go any further than a 1060 or 580 unless you're running 4K or something.

>>60539722
Well I managed to get the fans spinning for a second then nothing happens. All wirings checked out.

Interesting in overclocking my system when I make it (both my CPU and GPU, plus will need to enable my RAM's XMP profile to get its actual speed). Gonna get the fractal r5 which comes with one intake fan and one exhaust fan, should I add another fan or two?

>>60540518
4.2-4.4Ghz is pretty easy to get, and pretty much all chips should be able to hit it.

>>60540604
Depends on your GPU.
If you've got a 290X or some shit like that you'll need another fan but if you've got somehting under 200watts it should be fine with 2 fans as long as they aren't piss weak.
Not really sure what the r5 comes with but as long as it's around 1500RPM or higher it'll probably be alright.

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Sup /pcbg/
Is Gigabyte GTX 1050ti Windforce OC worth buying? I know there are lot of cheaper 1050ti models, but most of them looks kinda shabby.

>>60540898
If you can spend some more, RX 470/570 is a good buy, good performance per $.

>>60540898
They probably look "shabby" because the 1050ti really doesn't need a cooler that big.
It's got a TDP of 75 watts, it can even be cooled passively with a big enough heatsink

Are there any mini ITX cube cases with a vertical 5.25" drive that isn't slot-loading?

>>60540921
Sure 470/570 would be a better option, but... My budget is ~180 USD, and 4gig rx570 prices starts from 340 USD. Yep, welcome to Eastern Europe.

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fell for the nvme m.2 meme

what do?

>>60541010
forget about it eventually and be more wary of memes in the future.
You seem to be rich so it should just be water under the bridge unless you autism spent to get it and are now completely poor.

>>60541010
Put your os on it

Why are all of the AMD cards sold out? It's like they want me to buy a GTX 1060

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tMN7Fd
reusing psu, anything wrong?

>>60541404
My guess would be RX 570 4gb, and just get a AM4 r3-1500X (intel G4560 + b250 board is probably fine, but it really doesn't have upgrade path), with really any AM4 mobo (just pick one with a heatsink on the board).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw2LLD
$650ish is all I have. Ssd and another 8gb ram as I get paid.

>>60539612
any unplugged 12V 4pin power lead sockets (graphics, motherboard)?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DFN7Fd

Budget: ~$1500
Purpose: most radical coolest mitx pc

so, im going to saw the case to fit radiator through next to GPU; and then 3d print a bracket to reetatch that part of the game ala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RBi7wObZM4

what do you think?
how do I achieve god cable management
the most 100% impotant thing for me is aesthetics; so if you think a certain part could be replaced with one that LOOKS COOLER. I am 10000% onboard

>>60541463
For the budget, I can't do much better.. I assume you plan on adding an SSD later on and transfering windows over?

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>>60541493
also the motherboard is placeholder
while i save up and order parts ill be waiting for a non biostar one

>>60541493
I would wait until someone else releases an itx board. Just avoid Biostar if at all possible. I think Gigabyte's releasing one soon.

>>60541508
oh good
I would definitely use a different case though, one I DIDN'T have to saw through.

>>60541523
sawing through and 3d printing a part just makes it cooler though

>>60541463
I would say ASRock B350M Pro4... But, the dual bios from gigabyte is pretty neat, ans since it's only a 1500X, you really won't be vrm limited.
You really want 8gb on the RX 580, otherwise you might be vram limited down the line.

That case looks rubbish, invest more in a better case.
Define C mini is a good mATX case, you get 2 fans (probably decent ones, but 3pin) with it as well, and you should place both of those fans as front intakes. You might not have to buy premium fans for this case, so you basically make up for the price difference right there.

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>>60541532
*le sigh*

>>60541540
>recommending Fractal Design
I didn't know you like brushed plastic trash anon.

>>60541540
Actually.. The fans might be crap, so maybe you'll have to buy premium fans down the line anyway.

>>60541560
There really aren't any other budget options that aren't complete trash. I believe you want the windowless version though, because it might be acrylic window, which is absolute shit.

S340 is a "full" mid tower.

I have a 4570

is it worth upgrading to a ryzen 1600?

>>60541580
>There really aren't any other budget options that aren't complete trash.
wow. sucking that FD dick hard, aren't you?

>>60541581
yes.

>>60541581
No, wait for zen+/coffee delayke to make any moves if you have sandy+, both companies are going to come out swinging.
>Prepare the fire extinguishers.
We're about to make home computing great again.

>>60541617
this just wait meme has to die

>>60541612
I'd get some cheaper ram

>>60541604
Come up with a better option then, fucking shill.

>>60541617
>We're about to make home computing great again.
I really wish Trump would stop being a meme. He just gave Saudi's billions of dollars in weapons, which they'll funnel to terrorist jihadists, all because they gave a few million to his daughter's "womens fund" thing

>>60541650
>haven't shilled anything
>get called a shill by a shill
The projection is strong with this one.

>>60541661
That would me my minimum.

>>60541612
2x8gb Ballistix sport LT 2400mhz, a bit more money, but way more value for the money... Doing the opposite of what you're asking for, but 8gb just isn't enough ram. You'll have to get a completely new kit, and sell your old, if you want to upgrade it again, if you get 2x4gb.

That looks like a pretty bad case. At the moment I only know of Define C mini being a good mATX case. You get a couple of fans with it, they just might be quiet enough to not distrub you too much.
A bad case will have vibrations, which is an extremely annoying sound that really can't be dampened, and have bad fan configurations with cheap ass loud fans, that just makes your computer sound like a turbo jet.

>>60541699
>>60541612
Also, get this screen instead: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz
That has freesync, is not asus, and 75hz instead of 60hz.

If you can't afford those things right now, wait a bit longer, get more money, and buy the better PC.

>>60541762
No, you're pretty budget already, and your build isn't really balanced.
Maybe if EVGA 500B are cheaper, but you really can't skimp any more on your PSU. The motherboard is good, and I don't think there's any cheaper alternative.

If you're not going to upgrade your PC for another 3-5 years, then you could go with a cheaper gigabyte board.

2x4GB is pretty bad though, 8gb isn't really enough for gaming anymore.

>>60541540
anon in the bst thread is having probs with a b350 pro I think the (3x2)+2 phase and no llc is the problem. Pretty set on the gaming3 bc it has the same 1220 audio chip as the x370 vs 897 and 887? chips in other b350. The only other board I considered was an Asus prime plus because it has 8x8 pci but I prob will just replace gpu instead of x firing a used one later.

>>60541762
>>60541778
These are a bit more expensive, but so much more value "Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (BLS2K8G4D240FSB)"

>>60541782
Pro4 has no llc option? Isn't it just named something else?

I don't know what their BIOS looks like.

how much do memory frequency matter, and whats the deal with am4 compatibility

>>60541782
You can't crossfire with b350. Asus Prime Plus is the better board though, but obviously gigabyte has the dual bios, which is pretty nice (with single bios, if you have a power outtage during bios flash, you brick your mobo).

Is PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8Gb decent?

>>60541581
It's fine for now.
You'll only see moderate improvements in framerates and frametimes in the current crop of games.
Future games will eventually widen the gap but right now unless you really cant stand the performance you're getting regarding smoothness or maximum framerates and ryzen is better than what you have in those specific games you can comfortably wait

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Finally got this damn thing to boot, bad wire, apparently I can't use just any wire with this Modular PSU. Anyways here it is, still waiting on VEGA, not very happy with the derpy wire management. Still some tweaks to be done. OC'd to 5.0.

1600x vs 1700 if I'm not OCing?

>>60541817
gives a very nice performance boost to Ryzen CPUs since it accelerates the communication speed between the two groups of cores
Reaching high frequency is hard and an update is on it's way to fix that, with Asus releasing a beta bios for the crosshair VI a few days ago which did fix those problems

>>60542009
Just OC it

>>60542024
so what kind of ram should I get with am4?

>>60538265
W7 has pretty shit NVME support.

>>60542072
Any known brand RAM at 2600 - 2900MHz, really. Dont spend too much on getting a high frequency because 1. it's not sure you'll reach it at the time being and 2. gaming doesn't make use of it unless you have a high refresh rate screen & the GPU to go with it.

>>60542009
R7 1700 is for workstations / multitaskers / very mixed use, get the 1600x

>>60542113
ok thank you

>>60542113
What cooler would I need for the 1600x?

>>60542156
Something like a CRYORIG H7 would be great at cooling and a good start. Could downgrade that though if necessary.

>>60541996
Why is there a gun on you desk, I hope that's an airsoft.

The majority of 580/570's are sold out, what foes pcbg recommend for a 1080p gaming card?

>>60542244
580/480/570/470, or GTX 1060 6GB

>>60532934
Yoroshiku faggot

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>>60542279
Yoroshiku you bitch

By how much is 1 DR DIMM slower than 2 DR DIMMS?

>>60541816
He says no and is an experienced overclocker.
>>60541897
Do you even research before you post. You can xfire but most boards are stuck with x4 on the 2nd slot making it pointless.

>>60542311
theoritically half the memory bandwidth. Slows bandwidth dependent things heavily. In game it translates to 5 - 4% performance loss though that depends on the game.

>>60542312
B350 does not have support for crossfire. Unless some manufacturer somehow enabled it. You need x370 for crossfire.

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>>60542312

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Got memd by 240hz moniter.
Went through 3 gtx 1080 (RMAd the other), while they can keep up to around 180 fps, pushing them to 240 is causing audible coil whine in all of them

>>60542312
>He says no and is an experienced overclocker.
Intel doesn't count anon.

>>60542312
Is he doing some nooby fixed vcore? You might need to use offset to get llc option.

>>60538209
SSD's are about a lot more than speed, any consumer SSD is going to provide a very similar experience for consumer tasks, like loading games. faggot.

His could very well last years and years longer than yours.

Dumb question. Do GPU manufacturers require accounts to download and install their drivers?

>>60542687
no

>>60542687
Nvidia does at least, don't know about AMD.

>>60542687
No.
Drivers are one and the same regardless of manufcaturers (EVGA, XFX, Gigabyte, MSI, etc etc etc), you'll find them on AMD or Nvidia's website.

>>60542706
No it fucking doesn't, idiot.

>>60542353
nice pre launch spec sheet
https://www.pcper.com/news/Motherboards/AMD-Supports-CrossFire-B350-and-X370-Chipsets-However-SLI-Limited-X370
As I told you, B350 can xfire. Currently Biostar MSI and Asus offer it on B350 GT5, Tomahawk and Prime Plus.
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/specifications/
this is best because it has 8x8 instead of 16x4
>Use your technology for knowledge.

Currently worthwhile AM4 boards
>x370
~~~~~~~
>AsRock Taichi, Fatal1ty
(6x2)+(2x2) phase, vrm heatpipe, integrated wifi 1220 audio. Taichi is the best deal.
>Asus Crosshair
(4x2vrm heatsink2x2) phase, vrm heatpipe, 1220 audio. it lights up or some shit.
>B350
~~~~~~~
>GB Gaming 3
4+3 phase, vrm heatsink, 1220 audio.
>Asus Prime Plus
4+2 phase, vrm heatsink, 887 audio 8x8 xfire

>>60542445
240hz and 4k are memes right now. neither of them are comfortably feasible or worth it (in the case of 4k you sacrifice 144hz.. not worth).

>>60542713
Yeah they do, I've had my drivers either rolled back, or refused to be installed, because I didn't want to update my geforce experience.

>>60542706
I think that's only for gforce experience.
Soon to be mandatory judging by the conference where it was 90% all the new botnet they're adding an 1% talk about volta.

>>60534083
Only thing I think is awkward that you are going for an atx case with a micro atx mono. Otherwise good. If the games you are playing are not that demanding you could downgrade your gpu and save some money.

>>60542720
Why would you want to crossfire anyway?

>>60542721
There's no 240hz 4k.

>>60542739
240hz AND 4k, not 4k 240hz.

>>60542703
>>60542706
>>60542708
So I can get the drivers but what about the option to control the max fps of the GPU etc. Are drivers enough for that or do I need special software ?

will i be able to run fallout new vegas with hd textures and other graphic tweaks on g4600+1050ti? my order has been sent, i'm so excited

>>60542723
So update the geforce experience. It still doesn't require a fucking account. Fucking hell, I have the nvidia geforce experience on my laptop (GTX 1050)

>>60542745
On AMD there's something called Radeon Shill that allows you to set a FPS range and it'll stick to that range, and most importantly the faster your APM is the closer is it to the max FPS (whereas the less you are doing the closer it is to the lowest FPS in range)

For nvidia, no idea.
RivaTuner (included in afterburner) allows you to set an FPS limit, too.

>>60542749
Yeah probably easily. I hope you have fun Anon, your innocence is very wholesome.

>>60542754
It does required an account, at least last I checked.

nvidia is dead to me since that update, I'm not gonna bother with their shitty botnet, and never go back to them.

>>60542761
>Radeon Shill
Radeon Chill*

>>60542762
i will also buy 1080p monitor. very big upgrade for me after years of laptop suffering

>>60542768
I'm sure they won't be missing out on much money given how stupid you seem to be.

>>60542761
>On AMD there's something called Radeon Shill
It's Radeon Chill you fucktard

>>60542782
shut the FUCK up

>>60542782
>angry Shill detected

it worked, Anon.

>>60542780
I doubt I'm the only one dropping them for good.
Shitty overpriced hardware, to then forcing people to subscribe to their botnet.

Any sensible person will never ever consider nvidia again.

>>60542802
>forcing people to subscribe to their botnet.
Chrome and Windows 10 say otherwise. People will use whatever they like best or feel like they need to regardless of the moral implications.

There hasn't been enough competition for long enough that most people won't even think about AMD video cards anyways.

Also, Geforce Experience really isn't that bad.

Okay so I game online and I get heavy lag while wirelessly connected whereas ethernet my net is fine, the only old piece of hardware in my PC is the wifi card, would upgrading this give my PC a better connection? i.e. less ping

>>60542822
If you can connect via ethernet then just do that.. ? WiFi is shit for gaming.

>>60542822
maybe
try updating wifi drivers before doing that, though.

What is the greatest Compact CPU cooler ( AM4 socket ) available right now?

It's a fucking hassle to get one of these big CPU cooler on there with my case.

I'm building a PC for a friend. I only used intel so far so I have no idea what mobos and cooler that are good, I'm planning on getting him a Ryzen 1600. Any recommendations on what cooler/Mobo I can get?

>>60542720
>nice pre launch spec sheet
The spec sheet does seem right as the vast majority of b350 do not support SLI / Xfire, whereas all of the x370 are forced to support it

>>60542857
Asus B350 Prime plus, Gigabyte B350 Gaming 3, Msi B350 Gaming Pro are pretty good
The cooler is unneeded though, unless he wants to OC or something

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>>60542791
>>60542797

>>60537120
I'm pretty sure they recommend gtx 1060 for pro players
playing on 1080p144hz monitors. The 1060 has less
memory bus but higher clocks than the 570.
From what i understand probably gtx 1060 will be a good
option if you buy a g-sync 1080p144hz monitor because
with the higher clock speed will be able to reach 100+
fps if you drop settings to medium. The rx 570 on the
other hand will be able to keep 60fps stable on ultra.
If you plan to play competitively the gtx 1060 and a
high hz 1080p g-sync monitor is the way to go(g-sync
monitors are costy) otherwise you can get rx 570 and
play at 60hz 1080p freesync monitor(they're cheaper)
while the game looks pretty in ultra.

>tfw amd doesn't have cuda

Feels bad man. Still trying to decide between and rx560 and the gtx 1050ti. Cuda would be a nice to have for potential nn shenanigans. But apparently nvidia became very Jewish with their drivers.

Where should i install windows to?
Corsair Force GS
or
Samsung 960 Evo m.2 nvme
Would installing windows on a nvme drive make it
more responsive and and better performing?

>>60543189
>Would installing windows on a nvme drive make it
>more responsive and and better performing?
compared to a normal SSD< you won't notice a difference. You got memed into an m.2 drive.

>>60543205
I do have things that actually benefit from a nvme drive,
i was just curious about how os behaves on it.
It's pretty cheap where i live just 20$ more than
850 evo of the same size.

>>60533745
To remove any incentive to shill products. By giving any site traffic they're more prone to abuse their position.
Further evidence of this was some fucktard trying to make a (((official))) /pcbg/ PCpartpicker account so that they could have control over what products are listed, as a way of marketing brands.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent via these threads. We wish to distance ourselves from anything that can be used to create personal profit from that.
The soul purpose of these threads is to provide information to assist users in their builds, point out savings that can be made, or conflicts of parts.
/g/ would never recommend a 1050ti for a VR build. But Shekleburg of the (((offical))) partpicker will, because it's in his best interest not yours.

>>60537071
only if you don't void your warranty

>>60543268
>not playing puke inducing 20fps vr games.
i'm curious tho what's the cheapest best build
for smooth vr experience? Was thinking
r5 1600 gtx 1070 but g-sync is cancer.

What's the best 24 inch 144hz monitor for the value and display?

>>60543292
480 8gb/570 and up are fine for most VR. RE7 is where they start to hit the wall but still run fine if i remember right
VR is still immature, so those should do you fine for a year or three. I'm doubting any really graphically intensive VR will come out in the time. Reason being that headsets are still costly.
There should be a few more titles like RE7 that make use of VR as a side gimmick, that'll require better than a 480, but as said it'll be a side gimmick. Not really worth investing in a high end card now for. Better off saveing for whatever comes in future.
> Was thinking
r5 1600 gtx 1070
Vega releases soon, so should drive down the price of the 1070-80's if all is as expected. That or be a better card for you.

>>60543546
>>60543546
>>60543546

>>60541000
Oh, that's crazy. Are there really that many more jews in Eastern Europe?

>>60541010
Become video editor and use it as a scratch disk.
Or start a harem and host a bunch of VMs on it for your boislaves.