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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (try to use a search engine that respects your benis such as searx, ixquick or startpage).

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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First for Gentoo
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>>60454400
:DDDDDDDDD AW FUGGG
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I'm getting a 32GB USB3.0 thumbdrive and I'm going to put Kali on it for networking and diagnostics, or should I use AiO-SRT?
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>>60454011
pls respond
Was this really never addressed? God damn it
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>>60454428
Yes but you'll have to suck my dick to get it out of me
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Should I switch to debian sid for daily use?
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>>60454400
!!!
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>>60454456
>Debian
Fuck no
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>>60454438
That's twice a win for me anon
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Am i only fan of klipper actions?
its great bridge between GUI and binutils like sed, qrencode, awk etc.

>>60454456
probably yes. stable is outdated as fuck
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>>60454428
https://github.com/helixarch/debtap
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>>60454456
Should you? Maybe. If you want a semi-rolling release debian sid or testing both work.
Can you? Absolutely, I did it for a few months without many issues.
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>>60454475
https://superuser.com/questions/154303/is-there-a-us-international-keyboard-layout-on-linux-that-mimics-windows-behavi
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>>60454529
>without many issues.
what issues you meet?
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>>60454456
Switch from what?
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>>60454576
from stretch
i was previously on jessie and it took me a while to get used to it because it was such a huge change and many of my configs broke
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>>60454521
This looks hacky as fuck so I skipped it. Guess I should give it a go.

>>60454552
Yeah I saw that one but I'm on the same boat of the OP there. Having to relearn to type in yet another layout is too much of a hassle, I already have to deal with 3 different layouts daily
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anyone know what they did for good font rendering on Manjaro?
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>>60454631
Might be your only option, unless you want to try converting the package to Arch as Anon suggested. I'll bump it down to trap picture since you've already seen that post
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>>60454560
Well my wifi broke once and I had to edit a config file to fix it... can't remember everything but it wasn't bad overall.
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>>60454675
Look up infinality,then look up and to reflect infinality settings with the updated fontconfig,unless you're on old packages then just use infinialityt
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>>60454378
I'm installing fedora as my first ever linux distro, did I make the right choice?
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>>60454790
Fedora is great if you can stick to the official repos.
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>>60454790
Ubuntu and Suse is the most popular "first distro" but there inst anything like "bad choice" here.
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How to fix “deauthentication by local choice”?

Its just on Ubuntu 16.10+ on 16.04 it works fine..
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>>60454707
People generally aren't using infinality on Arch anymore since the harbuzz update broke it for everyone (January I think) and last I knew the maintainer has abandoned it and nobody is interested in continuing it anymore. There is a copypasta guide for getting similar fonts without infinality though. I can post it if there is demand for it. The default interpreter is pretty good now. Some decent fonts installed and a good fonts.conf is really all you need.
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>>60454960
Blacklist harfbuzz and go on your way.
The new fontconfig looks NOTHING like infinality,even with all the configs and patched fonts.
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>>60454981
>Blacklist harfbuzz and go on your way.
Well this is dumb. It broke months ago and nobody is maintaining infinality for arch.

>The new fontconfig
What is "the new font config".

>even with all the configs and patched fonts
We aren't talking about the same thing.

Linux - Wikipedia: http://i.imgur.com/SM1gH6p.png
Github - http://i.imgur.com/P6ZFvJn.png
Arch website - http://i.imgur.com/NgXzDTA.png
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>>60455032
Retards won't realize that you need to zoom in proper and not look at the smaller embeds to see how it really looks.
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>>60455032
>harfbuzz
No one needs to maintain it,blacklist it and problems solved.
>new fontconfig
fontconfig version 2.12

We are talking about the same things.The configs for fontconfig dont mimic infinality at all,it looks nothing alike its shit
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I have a GTX 970 and can't boot into any Arch variant without getting a blank screen. If I use nomodeset then Xorg won't start. What can I do, apart from getting a proper video card?
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>>60455059
>No one needs to maintain it,blacklist it and problems solved.
Why would you blacklist something being actively maintained to use something that abandoned? Simply blacklisting it won't work anyways because the current version breaks infinality.


>We are talking about the same things
No we aren't. I'm talking about this:

-Creating an Infinality-like font configuration for Arch-

From a clean slate on Arch we can now create a similar font configuration to the infinality-bundle's without having to use the patched packages. It is now possible to easily get great-looking results with the default interpreter.

1. Create the following symlinks to instruct freetype2 to use good-looking rendering defaults
sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d

sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d


2. Modify (or create)
/etc/fonts/local.conf
to contain these contents: https://pastebin.com/rnDtdzt5

3. At this point your fonts should look pretty good and you may wish to stop here but you can improve them more by making sure that you have all fonts on the system that were defined as substitutions earlier. To do this you need to install the packages
fonts-meta-extended-lt
and
fonts-meta-base
from the AUR which will build the rest of the fonts required.

After having done all this, restarting the X-server by logging out and back in should apply all changes.

-Screenshots-
Linux - Wikipedia: http://i.imgur.com/SM1gH6p.png
Github - http://i.imgur.com/P6ZFvJn.png
Arch website - http://i.imgur.com/NgXzDTA.png

>The configs for fontconfig dont mimic infinality at all,it looks nothing alike its shit
The above was created explicitly to mimic infinality
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>>60455113
#ArchProbs
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>>60454456
This picture is genuinely funny. And more than a little arousing. Right like what if the pizza dispatcher really just didnt give a fuck Looked over at the cutest boy and said: "Well? Get your twinky ass over there!"

BP wasnt very well liked or accepted at his job. People sniggered behind his back calling him gay for being handsome. He wasnt confident or mature enough to defend himself. He was just trying to earn some money to help out his impoverished family.

Pizza boy arrives at anons house and is greeted at the door by a large shut in 4-chaner. Anons pants are down, penis exposed. PB makes the above face. Anon says groughly: "Well? Bring it inside so I can inspect the pizza." PB suspected from the way Anon was looking at him that inspecting the pizza was the last thing on this customers mind. Maybe it was the words "Box Cutter" written in sharpie down Anon's raging boner. PB freezes up. He could run sure, but he knows how seriously Dominos takes it if a delivery boy doesn't come back with the money. They don't care if you bring back the pizza, only the money. He'd never seen or heard of anyone making it past 3 unpaid pie's without getting fired and he was up to 2 already. Some thugs had jumped him on his way home.
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>>60455149
Holy fuck nigger,if i black list get this harfbuzz,are you still with me? if i blacklist harfbuzz then it wont update. HOLY FUCKING CRACKERS.
Infiniality works flawlessly

I did exactly your post verbaitem and they look like shit.
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>>60454456
>>60455167

Anon raises his voice some more and barks out: "I'm not paying for a wrong pizza, now get your ass in here, I'm hungry." There it was again, that look, Anon was looking right through the pizza box and undressing PB with his eyes. PB Thought of his familys unfurnished concrete apartment, they moved so often and abruptly they couldnt keep any furniture. The paint was pealing and some nights there was hunger for the children in the house. PB told himself he could just put this pizza down on the suspiciously short table in front of him, collect his money and leave. As he walked past Anon he thought he saw Anon's mouth open, some drool hanging off those large lips. PB gulped, he was sure he'd made a mistake. Anon was holding the door still, making PB walk past him and into the house. "Well? Show me the pie!" PB knew throwing the pizza down on the table wouldn't go well, so he bent over, the short table forcing him to bend past his waist. He was so nervous he stumbled forward dropping to his hands on the table, his knees scraping against its edge, his back arched by the awkward pose. The pizza box clattered slightly after falling the last 7 inches to the table. Anon took the opportunity and said "Hey watch it! You probably fucked it up, Now we have to do a more thorough inspection" Anons hand left the door as he gently pushed it, and the door closed on Pizza Boys's innocence that early spring afternoon.
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>>60455059
>>60455178
>>harfbuzz
>No one needs to maintain it,blacklist it and problems solved.
harfbuzz isn't what's not being maintained you stupid fuck it's the infinality bundle . Go sniff a floppy dick faggot

>Infiniality works flawlessly
Holy shit you're fucking stupid.
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>>60455226
Holy shit you're fucking blind.I bet you use serif fonts too dont you faggot
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>>60455244
Fuck off retard
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>>60455167
>>60455195
Wtf delete this filth
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>>60455255
SPOTTED THE SERIF USER
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>>60455261
You have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to the woodshed punk.
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>>60455277
you mean gug shed
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i'm trying to install google chrome and mint won't let me because i have application managers running, but i'm not installing anything.

nothing comes up in task manager either.
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>>60455391
>nothing comes up in task manager either.
look under all users instead of just yourself
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>>60455416
there shouldn't be any other users though i'm the only account
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>>60455167
>>60455195
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Kill yourself you (((communist))) pieces of shit.
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>>60455391
add this to your sources.list
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
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>>60455454
>i dont spend money on shit i dont have to so i can spend it on stuff i have to

sounds pretty capitalist to me senpai
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>>60455167
>>60455195
xsauc is that you?
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>>60455463
how do i do that
sorry googling stuff for linux sucks and nothing good ever comes up
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>>60455464
(((Linux))) is a (((communist))) piece of shit.
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>>60455454
fuck off roleplaying shill, we all know that /pol/ uses GNU/Linux or BSDs
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>>60455483
make a file called google-chrome.list in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and put >>60455463 in it.

This will let you install google-chrome directly from google's repos.
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>>60455501
>the only operating system that avoids the ((windows)) or ((apple)) botnet is ((communist))

then what the fuck do i use faggot
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>>60455506
Why are you helping people install chrome, let alone nonfree software?
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>>60455113
Boot up with Manjaro with non free drivers
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>>60455505
No they don't you stupid (((GPL))) advocating kike
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>>60455526
because chromium sucks ass
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What risks am I accepting by running a Windows VM on a Gnu/Linux host?
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>>60454415
God bless
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>>60455517
(((Linux))) sucks donkey balls
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>>60455506
what kind of file? do i modify official-package-repositories.list or make a text file with that name
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>>60455576
I would make another file just so you can keep your affairs separate and they won't be affected by future updates.

Then run apt-get update and then apt-get install google-chrome-stable
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>>60455563
i agree
but windows is an nsa plant and macos is garbage
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>>60454981
>>60455059
>>60455178
>>60455244
Warning: This section is outdated, the original Infinality Bundle is no longer maintained.


>>60455433
Maybe it's running under another user like root. In your system monitor there is probably a setting to change it from showing 'my processes' to 'all processes'

>>60455463
This doesn't address his problem

>>60455501
>>60455454
>>60455533
>(((Linux))) is a (((communist))) piece of shit.
No it's not. Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. If we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists. Even Stallman advocates for capitalism, fuck off dude.


>>60455563
Don't listen to Bill here. Libre software isn't communism, Microsoft bears a close resemblance to it though.
Communism as was practiced in the Soviet Union was a system of central control where all activity was regimented, supposedly for the common good, but actually for the sake of the members of the Communist party. And where copying equipment was closely guarded to prevent illegal copying.
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>>60455609
thanks for the help, but even under root, i dont see any of the programs that it mentioned running
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>>60455530
brobritary?? u giddings me????
I tried manjaro-openrc and it didn't work, but star linux (devuan) worked fine.
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>>60455640
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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>>60455655
nice meme, and yes multiple times
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>>60455609
Kill yourself kike lover
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>>60455463
permission denied
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Oh no.... He's back...
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>>60455690
you need to be root to touch /etc, do you know how to become the root user?
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>>60455684
if you hate linux why are you even here
also you have no argument.
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>>60455712
Stop giving him attention, he's just a troll.
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how do I set a drive to mount as read and write automatically?
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>>60455706
no i just installed linux for the first time today, but why does >>60455609 say that this wouldn't work
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>>60455712
I want /leftypol/ to get the fuck off my website
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>>60455501
import std.stdio;
import std.random;

void main(string[] args)
{
foreach (word; args[1..$])
{
writef("%s ", uniform(0,2) ? "((("~word~")))" : word);
}
writeln;
}


Am I doing it right?

(((I'd))) just like to (((interject))) (((for))) (((a))) (((moment.))) What (((you’re))) (((referring))) to (((as))) Linux, (((is))) in fact, (((GNU/Linux,))) (((or))) (((as))) I’ve recently taken (((to))) (((calling))) (((it,))) GNU (((plus))) Linux. Linux is not an operating system (((unto))) itself, but (((rather))) (((another))) free component (((of))) (((a))) (((fully))) (((functioning))) GNU system (((made))) useful by the GNU corelibs, shell (((utilities))) (((and))) (((vital))) system components (((comprising))) (((a))) (((full))) OS as defined (((by))) POSIX.
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>>60455706
>become the root user
DISGUSTING
sudo fgt
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what is the best linux video editor?
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>>60455787
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve
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>>60455684
Fuck off dude. Look around you, Bill Gates and the other proprietary software makers are the globalist kikes. Think of it this way, Microsoft is like a communist state, a place of central control where all activity was regimented. We are working to build a system where people are free to decide their own actions; in particular, free to help their neighbors, and free to alter and improve the tools which they use in their daily lives. A system based on voluntary cooperation NOT forcing something that actually resembles communism a la Apple or Microsoft.
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>>60455726
They come that way
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>>60455731
Alright, you have a lot to learn, for starters: you need administrative permission to make systemwide changes.
using sudo or su will make you the "root" user, which is the admin account, you should have designated a password for this account when you installed linux.

run this and tell me if you fail
wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
# if it fails, run the following to install missing dependencies
sudo apt-get install -f
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>>60455804
(((Stallman))) is a literal communist kike you useful idiot.
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>>60455814
how do I set it to mount as read and write?
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>>60455804
>replying to shills
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>>60455822
Please stop embarrassing yourself. He has endorsed Capitalism.
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>>60455825
They
Come
That
Way
That
Is
The
Default
Mount
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>>60455801
Davinci Resolve is expensive as fuck tho

>>60455819
i wasnt doing anything in the command line just in the file manager so thats probably why
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>>60455822
Trump is an anti-white zionist shill too, haven't you got bigger things to worry about?
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>>60455837
how do I mount a drive as read and write.
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>>60455841
KDEnlive
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>>60455855
You Mount It
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>>60455841
Resolve is free, you pay for the hardware
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>>60455731
>why does >>60455609(You) say that this wouldn't work
Because something else is using your package manager. It is a repo that contains chrome but you can't use it as long as whatever the system update thing in mint is running in the background.

>>60455822
No he's not. Read his fucking political notes, he hates communism, and has spoken out against it plenty of times. He advocates for tightly regulated capitalism.
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>>60455855
Install gvfs
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>>60455847
Nice lies, shareblue

>>60455834
He only views capitalism as a stepping stone towards communism where propriety software is a felony
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>>60455819
holy fuck thank you so much that worked
now i have my browser :D
you da man
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>>60455863
qbittorrent is giving me read only errors.
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>>60455881
>Nice lies
OY VEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbqp14hhU0
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>>60455869
I didn't actually research it, I just saw it at a student film convention once and everyone told me it was expensive as fuck lmao
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>>60455902
>>>/reddit/
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>>60455902
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>>60455918
Aren't you upset your cover got blown, SHILL?
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>>60455881
I think you are possibly the least qualified person here to explain RMS's views.
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>>60455902
AYY GOYIM SHUT IT DOWN
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>>60455912
students don't know shit about anything
you're dumb for
a) believing them
b) not researching
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>>60455902
So much for pol tards
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>>60455937
>>60455941
Richard Stallman must be removed from the sticky. No such thing as a good jew.
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>>60455902
DELETE THIS
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>>60455902
I knew it
>>60455918
I KNEW IT
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I want to use a Linux distro, but it's damn near impossible to install my Nvidia drivers properly. Even when using a gui interface like on Ubuntu or Mint.
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>>60455963
Shalom, goyim. Your shekels have been dispatched in your (((Micros**t))) shilling campaign
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>>60455950
well i didn't even consider it because i used premiere mostly, and didn't want to change, and i assumed it wouldn't be on linux since premiere and final cut aren't on linux and that's what everyone uses.

also my students at least are extremely knowledgeable on editing software and tech, moreso than me at least.
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>>60455963
American people are proud to stand with (((Isreal))) :^)
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>>60455985
>>60455997
I knew /g/ was cucked, but not this cucked. Like I said, no such thing as a good jew.
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>(((Micro)))-goyim BTFO
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>>60456026
Yeah, cucked by rothschilds, just like the United States.
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>>60456026
How can any good person not stand with (((isreal)))?
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>>60455819
>>60455883

>literally
>LITERALLY WALKING PEOPLE through installing PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE
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>>60455988
instead of downloading it from nvidia's site, which never worked for me, use the driver manager on the startup window. worked perfectly the first time. :)
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Why do you need chrome again?
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how do I fix this?
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>>60456094
your hard disk is literally dying
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>>60456078
>>60456085
i'm so deep into the botnet at this point that i don't even care about not using chrome honestly. it has all my bookmarks, extensions that aren't on other things, easy integration with drive, gmail, and docs (essential parts of my workday)

at least i'm not using windows
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>>60456081
That's what I've been using (never could get the install working from Nvidia). Still no luck with it.
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>>60456094
WE NO SPEAK TACO
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>>60456122
Start migrating to chromium first and then ultimately palemoon
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>>60456094
by default, most linux distros will remount a partition as read-only if it detects a filesystem fuckup to prevent it from getting worse

your disk is probably dying
reboot your computer and hope fsck can fix it
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>>60456123
what do you mean by "not working" with the integrated driver manager? what error do you get? (if the loading bar stalls, just restart your computer and it'll work again)
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>>60456112
>>60456142
bro, I bought it last week.
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>>60456171
You got the broken one out of 100k, congrats
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>>60456152
Using the integrated driver manager, after installing and rebooting it either boots to a black screen that I can't get out of, or - and i've only seen this on Mint - it crashes the OS.
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>>60455828
(((I))) (((just))) like (((to))) (((have))) (((fun))) with pol (((cucks.))) (((Its quite funny to se them do their mental gymnastics
)))

(((By))) the (((way))) (((pls))) r8 (((>>60455745)))
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>>60456171
Bruh...
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>>60456140
why does it even matter if being logged into my google account on any browser sends them essentially my entire browsing history anyways

chromium doesnt work right with the theme i use either
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>>60456195
sorry i cant really help ya there i dont really know that much i just thought i could tell you what i did
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>>60456239
No worries, eventually I'll get it working. It's just weird that no one else has had a problem using the GUI install, except me.
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>>60456177
It doesn't give errors though.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/6bm497/wannacrypt_on_ubuntu_dont_look_at_comment_section/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TErrIvyj_lU

LMAO @ those comments!!
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>>60456264
fsck is for the filesystem,your fs can be fine but you can still have hardware problems
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>>60456264
can you fucking read?
>se debe tene access r/w al systema de archivos or ser root

your shit is READ ONLY
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>>60456263
oh believe me i've tried installing linux on my desktop 800 times and today the GPU driver just kinda decided to work lol
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>>60456296
how do I set to r/w?
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>>60456264
Bruh...
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>>60456310
either try remounting the partition or reboot
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in mint, is there any way to set two different types of scaling for two different resolution monitors? one is 4k and one is 1080p, and with my current options basically one is tiny and one is normal or one is huge and one is normal
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>>60456319
So I can't use on linux a drive that was fine 30 minutes ago in windows?
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>>60456340
Lmao Linux said "Fuck yo drive nigga" haha xD
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>>60456204
That's not how LISP works anon.
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cooler-Master-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard-and-Mouse/37565433?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227035108695&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=67149983449&wl4=pla-150432737089&wl5=1015027&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=37565433&wl13=&veh=sem


this is my keyboard. it lights up blue, and when its not lit up, you can barely see the keys. in windows, the scroll lock button turns the keyboard on, but in linux, it doesnt. how do i turn my keyboard on?
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In ruby is there a way to call a function and declare one particular variable
so like
def test(a=1, b=2, c=3)
puts "#{a}, #{b}, #{c}"
end
test(b=3)

would return
1, 3, 3
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>>60456505
Can you rephrase?
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>>60455538
freedumbs
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>>60456549
Can you override only one variables default value?
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Is there a reason why GNU man pages don't consistently indicate what syntax and which options for coreutils are POSIX? That said, I don't know if other implementations (namely, BSD coreutil manpages) are better on the matter but this irks me. Or am I just missing something extremely obvious?
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7pXzeACwf8
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>>60456575
>>60456549
>>60456505
but selectively, so if i wanted c to be 5, is there a way to just override c default value
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>>60456594
Yes. But does Ruby have references and pointers?
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>>60456611
Im not sure, still new to ruby. can you explain?
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>>60456623
I don't know ruby but you can certainly pass a reference to a variable in a function that changes a value.
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>>60456447
can someone please help? im sure its a simple fix
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>>60456643
I recommend not looking at your keyboard to type
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I hate you. All of you. Fuck you fucking faggots for not telling me about unar. I've been using nonfree unrar like a pathetic cuckold for year and today TODAY I find out that theres are free as in freedom way to unpack shitty rar files. Fuck all of you.

PS: install unar.
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>>60456641
Im looking to do it while calling the function
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>>60456643
install a proper driver
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>>60456666
nigga I thought the web is already rar free?!
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>>60456663
i dont. its an aesthetic thing.
>>60456679
this keyboard has no drivers. that was one of its main selling points i think. i just bought it because it was blue and came with a mouse
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>>60456666
neat, ty
-1 nonfree package

now I just need a free wifi driver for full freedom ;_;

can someone explain why nobody is working on free wifi drivers?
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>>60456678
What exactly are you trying to achieve by doing that?
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>>60456733
50% Open Source fault. It made half of the community not fiving a fuck about freedom and just install nonfree drivers.
That said, developing nonfree drivers is actually hardcore hacking. You need skilled programmers who can reverse engeneer what the firmware does. This takes ages and even when you finally finished a driver, it's 10 years later and your driver is obsolete.
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>>60456733
get an usb adapter online
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>>60456733
what do you gain from being able to say the thing that lets you connect to wifi is free? you aren't paying for wifi drivers anyways, and it literally doesn't impact usage at all
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>>60456790
I have a program on my computer that does shit on kernel level I have no idea about what it does. Doesn't feel right.
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>>60456729
>this keyboard has no drivers
What distro are you using? Do you have something like xf86-input-keyboard installed?
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>>60456808
wouldnt that be the same case if some neckbeard made "free software" that's actually a keylogger? why trust neckbeards over corporations for stuff this trivial?
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>>60456825
+1 rupee for ur microsoft account
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>>60456825
given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow
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>>60456825
Can you post some cases of malicious libre software that was in an established distributions repos?
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>>60456825
It's trivial to parse source code for things like web addresses though.
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>>60456819
i just installed mint tonight, so probably not.
>>60456849
it's a legit question. i hate microsoft and i'm trying to break free of windows. you can see throughout this thread me asking about how i can properly utilize linux to its fullest in my workflow, like looking for good editing software. btw kdenlive is pretty good, thanks to that anon who recommended it.
>>60456864
can you post an example of a proprietary wifi driver for linux that is a keylogger? >>60456867
doesnt this prove my point?
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>>60456885
What question is it?
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>>60456885
>>>60456867
>doesnt this prove my point?
Who are you and what's your point?

The question was
>can you post some cases of malicious libre software that was in an established distributions repos?
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>>60456825
>wouldnt that be the same case if some neckbeard made "free software" that's actually a keylogger
Are you implying that there is malicious software in the repositories of Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, etc? It doesn't matter what anyone makes if it's not in a distributions repositories.
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>>60456885
Look at the pic on the right side. It's a free software program. There are two guys arguing about a patch for something, another guy waits, he also made a patch and there are like (whatever large the internet is) other people who also want to add patches, fix problematic code or close security flaws. Then there are other people (at the bottom), these people aren't programmers, they don't know shit, but they still profit from the changes thee community does and after all, the best version of a program goes upsteam.
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>>60456976
>right
son ur drunk
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>>60456976
>>60456976
right side is 3spooky5me
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>>60456976
this makes sense.
>>60456948
this does as well.
>>60456907
i didnt fully understand his post honestly >>60456895
the one the post i made was replying to? come on
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>>60456976
Isn't that a slide from RMS speeches?
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>>60456992
maybe hes australian
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>>60456992
It's 5am, I'm on like 28 coffee. Excuse me.
>>60457046
Yes.
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>>60455609
This might come off as nitpicking so ignore it if so, but
[spoiler] I'd just like to interject for a moment [\spoiler] monopolies are kind of part of capitalism and free markets.
If they are natural and serve the consumers, both sides are happy, if not, since they don't have the state's power to choke out competition in a free market, an unnatural monopoly would eventually lose to it.
> He advocates for tightly regulated capitalism.
> tightly regulated free market
> tightly regulated
> free
It's called mercantilism and is abusable as all fuck. politicians and corporations will use that regulation to find a way to screw the little guys and competition
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>>60457061
what really IS the difference between capitalism and mercantilism? just the amount of regulation?
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Fuck the FSF!!!
>>
People ITT have a caffeine problem.
We need to raise awareness and help.
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>>60457061
>politicians and corporations will use that regulation to find a way to screw the little guys and competition
What do you think is happening in the world right now? Exactly this. This is what regulation is needed to prevent.
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>>60457083
Tea masterrace.
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>>60457083
I like coffee too much, helped me mostly get off soda.
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>>60457082
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>>60457076
Not just.
In a mercantilist system, you have a positive feedback loop of influence between the financial sector and the political sector. They can start with even a little influence over one another, but once you start, they both have incentives to increase it and create an incenstous relationship.
Starting new businesses / bodels and competing would become increasingly hard.
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>>60457082
This. Spread the genes!
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>>60457110
kek+saved
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>>60457091
> due to regulations, politicians and corporations are doing bad stuff
> that's why we need more regulations
Friendo, you don't pour gasoline on a fire to put it out.
> no no, we need the GOOD kind of regulation
Never going to happen. People will always be incentivized to add something to it that benefits them and screws you
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>>60457105
Me too, I lost 40lbs over 6 months after replacing soda with coffee.
I didn't even start exercising, the weight just fell off.
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>>60457122
>>60457152
>In a mercantilist system, you have a positive feedback loop of influence between the financial sector and the political sector
Seriously. This is the current system in most of the world. Political lobbyists working in favor of corporations. How do you prevent this? You'd have to dare I say regulate them somehow.
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I really don't get why we even have to mention the kernel in the name. One doesn't refer to Windows 7, for example, as Windows 7/NT or Windows 7+NT. Why should we not simply call it GNU?
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>>60457160
you forgot the loop part
> regulations caused the issue
> let's regulate it
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>>60457195
The term 'regulate' isn't such a simple straight forward word.
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>>60457194
The kernel has gotten huge recognition unlike NT
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>>60457194
doesn't really have the same ring to it, plus, GNU code probably makes up no more than 5% of a modern linux install.
Why not call it xfree86?
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>>60457218
>>60457194
I call it the GNU system irl. Or sometimes GNU with Linux added.
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>>60457372
that's pretty fucking autistic
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>>60457379
Why? Calling it what it is? The GNU system is more accurate than calling it Linux
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>>60457208
Shit's broken yo
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>>60457390
I respect GNU's contributions, but there's no use in trying to satisfy stallman on this one point because he's a goddamn zealot.
Debian officially calls themselves GNU/Linux and goes out of their way to satisfy stallman by deblobbing their linux kernel and moving all the contrib and non-free stuff out of the standard repos.

You have to explicitly add these branches yourself and install nonfree packages manually, and stallman still isn't satisfied because the debian project has a detailed wiki explaining how to install non-free software and the very fact that you're even ALLOWED to install non-free pisses off stallman.
Stallman's perfect GNU distribution would literally prevent you from installing the software you want on your own computer, how the fuck is this software freedom?
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>>60457453
GNU is the initial contribution. Many people seem to think that Linux is, they are wrong.

>Stallman's perfect GNU distribution would literally prevent you from installing the software you want on your own computer
It's kind of abstract, maybe you will have an epiphany one day and understand.
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>>60457453
Fuck Debian
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>>60457453
Fuck Debian
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And FUCK Donald BLUMPF
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>>60457372
Same here. Fuck Linus and his sheckel ware.
>>
did you upgrade your python eggs today?
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>>60457453
>I respect GNU's contributions
You should respect Linus contribution to the GNU system.
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So I cleaned my trash, removed all kernels but the current one and one older version, cleaned up ~/.config. What else could I wipe?
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>>60457815
vrms -s | xargs sudo apt-get purge 
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>>60457757
I agree with this statement and am not the same poster!
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>>60457854
>vrms
You should remove this too. All it does is (on debian/ubuntu/etc)'s side check from which repo a package comes; it doesn't say anything if a program is actually free software or not and on some systems it shows actual free software as nonfree.
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Trying to install Debian on my t470, and it can't detect my wireless chip, so what do I do? I have an arch USB too, and it won't detect it either. I don't have an ethernet cord on me. I'm getting pretty pissed, I can't find any clear solution on google, and I want to get rid of windows 10. My touchpad didn't work during the Debian installer either, so I just booted back into windows.
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>>60457906
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
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>>60457906
debian comes out of the box without any nonfree stuff, which is cool for experts, but uncool for newbs, so either read the docs or just go ubuntu
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>>60457952
This is why free distros suck. They simply don't work. >>60457906 Fedora.
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>>60457952
So how do I get those drivers when I'm installing Debian? Found an ethernet cord, btw.
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>>60458040
REKT!
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>>60458053
Check what firmware you need for your hardware, dl the deb, dpkg -i firmware.deb.
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>>60458040
>This is why nonfree firmware sucks.
FTFY
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>>60458053
What is the wireless chipset in your laptop?
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>>60458040
*tips distro*
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>>60458112
How do I even find out? I have a thinkpad t470.

The whole reason I got this laptop was to get more experience with Linux, I originally planned on installing arch, got too intimidated and wanted to install Debian, now I can't figure out this wireless shit, I'm thinking of just giving up and going back to ubunut. At least my shit will actually work.
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>>60458137
I don't even know anymore how to find out hw infos on wendys, kek.

I'd say run sudo lshw | grep wifi, but well ...
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>>60458137
No please do not give up. I will try and help you to the best of my ability. You can find out what wireless chipset you have in Windows 10 via device manager. In any linux ditro with access to a terminal you can run lspci and figure out that way
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>>60458137
doens't "speccy" show it?
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>>60458148
dammit, same here
do we need a windows course?
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>>60456447
in terminal type "xset led 3" without quotes. Yes, you have to do this every time you turn it on.
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>>60458137
It's not that we don't dare do things because they are difficult; rather, they are difficult because we don't dare -- Seneca.
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>>60458153
This is what I have.
What do I need to do during the debian installation? Should I hook it up with ethernet, run the full netinstall, and then get the drivers and stuff once i'm installed? What about my touchpad? I never use it, I only use the trackpoint, but I still want everything to actually work.
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>>60458186
you could add the command to rc.local to autorun after boot
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>>60458226
I'm aware that there are ways to automate this (which I probably should have stated) but I'm too stupid to get it working.
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>>60458208
So you can load your chipsets firmware during the debian install. When it attempts to detect wireless networking there is an option to load firmware. You need to load iwlwifi firmware

Here you go: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi

You'll need a spare usb to place the firmware .ucode files on though.
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>>60458208
Not sure but I guess you need firmware-iwlwifi.
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>>60458208
>>60458261
Wait, I don't think the AC 8265 chipset is supported in the old kernel Debian uses. Honestly I would just install Xubuntu or something
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>>60458261
These are things where we really need some pasta for.
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>>60458261
...where do I download the file? all I can find on that page is the list of the files in the package, but not the actual download.

>>60458294
Should I be looking at Arch then? I want to try something other than Ubuntu, I've been using it for like 4 years and haven't progressed. I'm tired of being a perpetual linux noob.
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>>60458322
I would use Arch because it uses the latest kernel, which does support your wifi card (you need 4.8 or newer).

If you want to use Arch but don't want to do everything manually you can use this: https://arch-anywhere.org/

It's basically a CLI installer
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>>60458349
>>>/b/
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Who is the one taking the pictures? Does he have a girlfriend?
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>>60458349
No, I do want to do it manually, so I can learn what I'm doing. I did try booting archiso, and tried pinging google, and didn't have internet.

I found the deb file for the wireless drivers, should I just load that into a USB and use that during the debian install?
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>>60458371
yes, his parrot
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>>60458373
>and tried pinging google, and didn't have internet.
In the Arch wiki installation guide they explain how to get internet access.
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>>60458387
Stop.
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>>60456666

Doesnt integrate with gui archive managers.
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>>60458408
Stop what? What on Earth are you talking about.
>>
hey /g/, thinking about installing arch linux and I'm wondering which version is the best and which doesnt come with the systemd botnet? thanks
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>>60458415
>gui
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>>60458387
Tbh at this point i'm pretty confused and just want to get rid of windows, I think I'm just gonna resign to installing ubuntu and figuring it out another time. Goddamnit.
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>>60458466
Dude just use arch anywhere. Installing arch isn't some accomplishment. You can still learn about GNU by other means. The arch wiki has a plethora of information.
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>>60458482
Dude, just stop shilling your Arch autism to a beginner.
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>>60458491
What? He said he wants to use Arch. If he wants to use it, so be it.
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>>60458491
whats wrong with arch?
>>
Please don't pay to use a pay toilet.
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>>60458513
this

nobody should need to pay for taking a shit
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>>60458513
When I really need to take a shit and there's only a pay toilet, I pay, take a shit and then stuff something into the coin thingy so others don't need to pay. Fuck these guys. Trying to make money out of everything.
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Anon, why are you still using deprecated Xorg? You aren't using proprietary nvidia drivers, are you?
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>>60458544
I hope you made a big mess haha
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>>60458554
Wayland sucks donkey dick
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>>60458544
The point is, pay toilets divide people who need to take a shit into two classes: People who can pay to take a shit and people who can't.
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>>60458513
> make toilet free
> vagrants will use it
> it will be disgusting, covered in shit and piss
> all the toilet paper will disappear
> homeless people will sleep in it
We can't live in a fantasy land where everything is free.
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>>60458544
what do you stuff in?
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>>60458584
+1 sheckel was disposed into your microsoft account
>>
Fuck me, Ubuntu won't even connect to the internet. Booted up both Kubuntu and Xubuntu livecd, and both times it said I was connected to my wifi, but I couldn't ping google. What the fuck? Am I just stuck with Windows?
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>>60458565
Mind explaining why? I personally think it's much cleaner in design than Xorg, as well as having better performance. It's high time we got rid of all the legacy hacks involved in Xorg, it's insecure and incredibly bloated. I think it's a good thing that the Wayland devs are forcing compositors to implement features they want instead of doing it themselves, because it's the only way to avoid repeating X.
>>
>>60458584
>>60458584
>implying a homless persons cant afford some cents for a toilet if he really needs a place for sleeping

>implying its a bad thing that a homeless guys has a toilet to sleep in
fuck off
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>>60458504
Not him, but from experience i can honestly say its a lot easier to fuck up an arch installation than it is to properly do it.

>be me
>try arch as a complete beginner.
>everyone says its the best
>"Super lightweight and minimal! Youll learn so much!"
>sounds good to me
>follow some ass' guide on youtube
>gave me incorrect instructions
>search for a solution on the internet
>every time I get a little further in the installation process, I have another problem that needs trouble shooting and researching
>learn nothing
>realize arch is a meme by virtue of being a massive fucking waste of time
>give up. Go with fedora, despite the meme name, for being pretty damn reliable.
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>>60458616
This. I was homeless back in my days and I payed bare money for a pay toilet in order to sleep there. I payed for it. There's no rule not to sleep there.
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>>60458605
Same guy here, even ethernet doesn't work. I hooked my laptop directly to the router, and it just loads forever and doesn't connect. Wifi however shows the available networks, and I connected to mine, but still no internet.
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>>60458584
>>vagrants will use it
God forbid a vagrant relieve themselves in a toilet.
>>it will be disgusting, covered in shit and piss
That is an assumption.
>all the toilet paper will disappear
That is an assumption.
> homeless people will sleep in it
I concede this.
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>>60458641
You got it wrong. You should't have to pay money for taking a shit/sleep. Toilets are for shitting, not for making money, or do you want a future where people shit on the streets in order to save money?
>>
friendly reminder that everyone advocating free toilets is a CIA shill trying to smear the free software movement
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>>60458663
>he doens't follow rms rss feed
shame on you
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>>60458662
toilet paper isn't free, and neither is water nor upkeep of the toilet facilities

i wanna pay money to keep homeless people away and the toilet paper fully stocked
is that so much to ask?
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>>60458663
Um what? Rirchard Stallman himself is an advocate of free toilets...
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>>60458554
I want to be using Wayland. However, the Wayland compositor I want to use, sway, really isn't quite there yet in terms of features and quality. I've actually been making some code contributions to it, though.
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>>60458676
You realize those costs are covered by taxes right? All public services are, a public toilet is no exception.
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>>60458676
water is free and so is toilet paper in a civilized country like countries in europe, no idea how it's in murica
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>>60458513
>>60458527
>>60458544
>>60458571
>>60458616
>>60458641
>>60458658
this got me thinking,
we should start a movement to promote the universal freedom to create, study, modify and distribute toilets that respect users' four essential freedoms
we should call it the free toilet foundation
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>>60458693
>water is free and so is toilet paper in a civilized country
Someone is paying for it
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>>60458693
>water is free
no it isn't you absolute retard. Someone else is just paying for it.
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>>60458696
I'll make the logo
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>>60458701
The state pays for it, because people pay taxes for it. Solidatity buddy. This is why you don't need to pay your doctor in europe. Everyone takes care of each other.
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>>60458733
Sounds like the perfect society :-)
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>>60458690
Public toilets are also invariably filthy, smelly and missing toilet paper 100% of the time.

You're probably thinking of well stocked bathrooms on private property, like stores and pay toilets, which is literally someone offering bathrooms as a service, and not as a convenience to customers.
>>
/g/ - political toilets
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>>60458715
can someone actually make a ripoff of the fsf logo with a toilet?
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>>60458748
OK, but toilet paper is still paid for by taxes.
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>>60458752
Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone. -- Jesus
>>
don't demean stallman for his interest in protecting our freedoms from oppressive proprietary toilets
one day you will reflect on the fact that you have to pay to use a botnet smart toilet in public, and you will realise that he was right again
>>
And once again /g/ proves most Linux users are, in fact, Indian.
>>
I fell for the minimal install meme and my laptop can't detect wlan0 or eth0, how do I get them working? They were working fine during the setup but in tty they're not detected.
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good thread
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Did you ever wanted to be THAT GUY who was OP of on of these famous /fglt/ threads? THIS IS YOUR CHANCE.
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include me in the screenshot XDDD
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New thread: >>60458852
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>>60458806
good post
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>>60457208
> 'No!' cried Gandalf, springing to his feet. 'With that power I should have power too great and terrible. And over me the Ring would gain a power still greater and more deadly.' His eyes flashed and his face was lit as by a fire within. 'Do not tempt me! For I do not wish to become like the Dark Lord himself. Yet the way of the Ring to my heart is by pity, pity for weakness and the desire of strength to do good. Do not tempt me! I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe, unused. The wish to wield it would be too great for my strength. I shall have such need of it. Great perils lie before me.'
It's power
>>
i want to reinstall debian but for some reason that kills the ethernet and onboard wifi drivers, so my question if theres some way to use windows drivers or use drivers from another distro like fedora to install it
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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