/pcbg/ - PC Building General

vega a dissapointment.

What's freesync2? Will I need a new freesync monitor for it?

>>60439762
It's not even out.

>>60439762
We haven't even seen consumer Vega yet

There are only two genders

I waited for this moment all my life

best cases out now?

For cooling, silence and looks....

Must be able to fit a EATX

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>its yet another wait™ for Vega episode

nooooooooiooo I can't take it any longer bros

under-appreciated mATX cases? Recommendations tend to either be absolute cheapest possible shit, and luxury money coffins

>>60439852
Eternal vega theme song

https://youtu.be/_oEvOu43E6Y

>>60439848
Phanteks P400S

Got a question here /g/ents. Built my first PC about 3 years ago, 4690K i5 build with an R9 290X card and the assorted goodies. Well, my fucking kitten knocked a glass of water into the top vents the other night, and I think he might have killed the mobo from corrosion. Should I get another board, or is it time to upgrade to a new CPU/mobo combo? Just looking for opinions on the general build itself

>>60439865
Raijintek has some nice small cases that can still use a big 170mm and under air coolers

>>60439927
From a 4690k the only upgrade that would be noticeable would be an R7 1700 and that's only if you make use of the eight cores
Maybe try to sell the i5 & the ram, then get a new cpu + mobo + ram
But really, if you're just gaming, there won't be a very big difference no matter what you pick.
I wouldn't spend any money on a mobo from a old dead socket though.

>>60439927
Buy a used mobo for your 4690k

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>>60439869
>tfw I will be using my 290x until 2020 at this rate

Is the Taichi x370 good for a 1700x rig? I've been considering other boards but everyone keeps telling me to go for the Taichi. I really don't think I need the SLI or Xfire stuff. What are some alternatives?

>>60439993
>>60440030

This is pretty much the full build, so I'm faced with buying a dead socket mobo that'll get me by a few years, or upgrading to a new socket and cpu and trying to sell the 4690k?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/titiemeyer01/saved/9cCXLk

>>60440082
yes.
If you can sell your 4690k for a good price, do it right away because it be much less worth than it is in the future.
If you can find a mobo at a very good price then you can go for it.

>>60440081
>I really don't think I need the SLI or Xfire stuff.
b350 would be wiser then.
MSI Gaming Pro, that gigabyte one near $100, Asus Prime b350m-a/plus

>>60440082
Upgrade your mobo+cpu is wasting your money unless the i5 4690k is not fast enough.
You can always buy a used mobo that is very cheap. You should wait for Volta and Vega if you want a entire new PC.

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I am mostly a new time builder. I have disassembled and reassembled my build because ti has had various problems over the year.

Does anyone else find the Cryorig H7 a complete pain in the ass to assemble? Every time I put it together I have a hard time. I always hold the Cryorig on one side of the case (standing up) and my screw driver on the other side, and hope to god that I align it perfectly with the mounting screws. I dont know, I cant tell if I am having a hard time because it truly has a faulty design or if I am just a wuss.

>>60440236

No the 4690k ran like greased lightning, I just haven't kept up to date on tech since the build and figured it'd be easier to ask here than do a shitton of research first

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What do you guys think of this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/disconsented/saved/#view=3PMgsY

Also what case should I get?

Also what keyboard?

Also what mouse?

Also what mousepad?

Also what headset?

Also what microphone if you suggest headphones?

Made a build today, any thoughts? It'll be for gaming and maybe some IT work: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDKBtJ

Also, got a Samsung monitor from a few years ago that still works fine, a Logitech G500 (lol) that I'm still using, and some old ass Yamaha computer speakers that I'm not sure if I should replace or not. Need a keyboard though.

>>60440358
What kind of IT work?
Nice seeing a build not full of needlessly overpriced parts for once. That does look good.

>>60440195
Well, as a hypothetical, lets say I did want to use those features. Would Taichi be tho go-to?

>>60440389
Unknown, still job searching...

>>60440314
>tiers of builds saved
You can fuck right off, thread hijacker.

>>60440389
>>60440424
Ah, well did choose 16GB of RAM for virtual machines if I end up making one or two

>>60440417
Not particularly, because any cheaper x370 motherboard also supports those features and are still good motherboards.

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Do all DDR4 motherboards support DDR3? I might cheap out on upgrading the RAM for the time being so I need to know

>>60440544
No. They're not pin compatible.

I plan on 1080p gaming or emulating older games, ps2 probably being the latest platform. Will a 1500x be enough if the most intensive task I'll be doing is that plus watching old and more than likely poor quality movies on another monitor at the same time? trying to pinch pennies so I'll only go up to the 1600 if I absolutely need to right now

>>60441199
should be fine for now. Since it's the AM4 platform, you can always swap to a 1600 or a 1700 later.

retarded stock images are getting stale, just like the feeleriño guy with baseballcaps

>>60441241
thanks, that was another thing I had in mind. I heard the next Zen was going to be AM4 too so I figured if I needed more cores then I could upgrade at that point

i want to sli two zotac amp extreme gpu's. what kind of case would i need to fit both of them and have room for good air flow?

>>60441260
What do you suggest?

>>60441284
The two next Zen actually, Zen+ and Zen3 (7nm)

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Is this the most Russian build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V2k6gL

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don't mind baby she is just checking the power connection to your psu

>>60441284
>I heard the next Zen was going to be AM4 too so I figured if I needed more cores then I could upgrade at that point
Zen is the architecture used for all the Ryzen chips. The Ryzen 5 1500X you plan to get is a Zen chip, as is the 1600, 1600X, 1700, 1700X, and 1800X.

The recently announced 16 core 32 thread Threadripper enthusiast CPU's will use a different socket.

My point is, the 1500X is already a Zen chip. You'd just be going to a more powerful Zen chip.

>>60441314
you'd be better off getting a used dell or something imo

>>60441314
>logisys PSU

enjoy your house fire

>>60441298
pics of success stories

>>60440544
DDR3 sticks physically cannot go into DDR4 slots.

>>60441331
>the next Zen
He was talking about Zen+, planned for next year

>>60440576
>>60441382

Fuuuuck

>>60441437
It's a completely different standard. Of course it's different.

Just built my pc and nothing is showing up in the screen. It's a b350 Tomahawk with an R5. None of the led debug lights are on. The GPU led light is on but that shouldn't matter because im plugged in through the motherboard. Everything is powering up.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to get it to display?

>>60441437
my exact reaction when I realize I need to spend another 100$ when going from i5 2400 to r5 1600

>>60441470
>because im plugged in through the motherboard
What?
Do you mean that the display cable is plugged to motherboard?
If so, plug it into the GPU instead.

>>60441470
Ryzen doesn't have an integrated GPU. Plug it into the graphics card

>>60441588
more specifically, Ryzen 5 and 7 do not have iGPU.
Ryzen 3 does, and nothing has been disclosed regarding Threadripper.

>>60441503
>>60441588
I'm plugged in through the GPU now and got to the bios thing. Thanks guys!

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Hey, I'm looking to build my first PC for gaming and statistical stuff. I've posted in a couple other threads and this is where i'm at so far. I'm also looking to shave some money of the end costs, if possible. Apologies in advance for being technologically inept.

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>>60441923
Try to see if there's some 8GB RX 480/580 under $244 for further money saving, unless your statistical stuff uses CUDA accelerated libraries or something

Otherwise i don't think there's much saving to do or any.
Why that motherboard though? ASRock tends to have the worst VRM out of all the others manufacturers, at least in the b350 motherboards. Fairly sure you could fine an Asus Prime b350m-a very close to $85

Is PowerColor Radeon RX 580 Red Dragon 8192MB a good version of RX 580?

>>60442055
Another Anon previously suggested that one, but I will look at your recommendations. I don't know much about video cards, so I appreciate you posting the specs.

>>60442055
ASRock are very solid in the b350 department. They have good vrms, and good phases.

It's gigabyte you want to avoid.

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>>60442094
I personally dislike the lack of capacitors compared to other similarly priced motherboards

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HMsczM


ITX (to take to college) build for gaming, don't want to waste some of my summer by waiting for ryzen itx boards. this look good? or is ryzen worth waiting for (benchmarks look like a ~5ish fps increase) and i read I need ddr4-3200 on ryzen for optimal performance so there might not be any savings.

looking to spend ~700 max, cheaper is better bc I want money to buy milsurps 8)

>>60442120
The amount of capacitor isn't going to matter if you pick heatsinkless models.

>>60442120
Both of those mobos are shit, they don't have any heatsinks. Any b350 mobo with a heatsink is fine, they're 3+3 I think, and one 4+2 I think.

>>60442152
From ASRock that is.

Asus only has 2 models I think? You need to go with the one that has a heatsink.

>>60440314
For all Ryzen builds, the Team Dark RAM may not be compatible.

Any Z board should have 3000MHz RAM

>entry level
Too expensive. Clearly a 570 isn't entry. SSD should be optional at that level, especially at current prices.

>slightly above entry
RX1500X + (A)B350 is a better deal, considering fast RAM, better cooler, and significantly better clockspeeds

>>60442122
>(benchmarks look like a ~5ish fps increase)
The reason Ryzen 5 are recommended over i5 is not because of framerate but mostly because of vastly superior multithreaded performance, no bottleneck (4c4t is real shit) at the same price
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

>I need ddr4-3200 on ryzen for optimal performance
Well yeah, for the best possible performance you want the highest frequency ram
but no, it's not needed in any way. Just yet another way of getting more performance out of your CPU.

>is ryzen worth waiting for
That's entirely up to you. In your situation i would personally wait because getting a shit CPU so that you can use your build earlier is not very wise, you're spending $268 on this CPU + mobo.

>>60442159
The Asus Prime b350 plus is the one with the heatsink

>have 60hz 1440p monitor
>want 144hz 1440p monitor (with freesync)
>still using a fucking r9 290
>just played a few games and even with low settings and 1080p, I could barely hit 120fps consistently
what do I do? the monitor I want is only on sale for another week, and I figure with freesync I can deal with the lower frame rates. but even then, my cpu is hitting 100% consistently if I go over 100fps in games like BF4

>>60441324

>cutting power to a 7700k system moments before it bursts into flames killing everyone in the house

That baby is a goddamn hero.

>>60442205
Are you sure it's not a CPU bottleneck?

>>60442224
woops i'm retarded i forgot to read the last part lel
Yeah, no wonder you can't reach 120+ FPS with a CPU bottleneck

>>60442224
it's a bit of both. I was hitting consistent 100% gpu usage and occasionally 100% cpu usage. I'm using a 2500k at 4.2ghz, so my pc as a whole needs replacing. I think my plan is

>new monitor now
>vega when it comes out
>ryzen in fall
not amd fanboy, just poor and freeync is cheaper, otherwise I would've got a 1070 by now

>>60442244
i'd recommend getting a ryzen before a new GPU because the FPS drop your current CPU will cause during intense scenes if you had a vega GPU would be far worse than the FPS drops caused by your R9 290

And with a good CPU you can always drop some settings to reach higher framerate with your GPU, while there is no settings to improve CPU performances

>>60440055
Nah, it will die long before then due to shitty AMD quality.

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Which B350 boards are currently worth looking into? Most popular boards seem to have very mixed reviews.

>>60442314
fair enough. the biggest reason I'm leaning towards a new gpu is because I can overclock my cpu a bit more (I used to run it at 4.7, but the extra heat wasn't worth it for what I did with it), whereas my gpu artifacts at 1100mhz core, 1500 memory (it used to OC well, but I guess I fucked it up when I flashed it to 390 bios)

plus the price difference
>cpu+mobo+ram ~$700 (guessing)
>gpu ~$500 (I hope)

>>60442388
>cpu+mobo+ram ~$700 (guessing)
It really depends on what you're getting
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vcGD8

>>60442375
The one in the image is a good board, at least has good vrms.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

>>60442439
I'm in cauckistan, so it's about 30% more expensive. the build I had picked out was also an r5 1600, but the mobo was $150 and the ram $120, so it came out to be $600CAD ($450USD)

Is this the best build for gaming?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tcCJD8

>>60442523
>no 1080 11GB
no

I have my build figured out and /g/ approved all except the case, because I'm indecisive.
NZXT S340 (black/red)
or
Phanteks Eclipse P400S (black)

build has a red/black color theme.

Hey /g/uise,

I'm a faggot and I wanna buy a prebuilt rig from Amazon. Does anyone know if they do payment plans? Does this question belong in the stupid questions thread? Am I stupid?
And if I can't do Amazon, I wanna turn to a pc builder website like OriginPC or DigitalStorm or something. Although I can't help but feel like those are huge memes and I'd probably feel shitty right after making that purchase if I do go that route. Like buying a hooker or something.
Anyway, I'd like some help. Thanks.

>>60442703
those prebuilt systems have a massive price hike on everything. You can build a much better system yourself, in most cases, for the same money.

>>60442703

If building a PC doesn't interest you after watching some videos or doing some research, it might not be for you. I was stoked to build my own PC, but I realized after it was put together that I would enjoy it more if I got it built for me, but that's personal preference.

You're not stupid, you just have to think about the finances vs the work invested.

If you want to build a great PC, you're looking at spending around $1500. Now, that means you'll have to sort through everything and troubleshoot stuff yourself, and remember all the screws, etc. It will be dumb stuff (like the instructions for my liquid cooler left out how to connect it for power). But sorting through cables and working through bugs will take you a while.

So if you think that you'd rather spend $200-300 for some company to source the parts and make sure they're put together correctly (and with a warranty) then that's definitely the way you should go. You get all of the satisfaction of owning your own custom PC, with none of the drawbacks of building it yourself.

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Clear-Compact-Mid-Tower/dp/B017XPP9KK
Is this case good? I love the simple design. Is there any better case for the same or less money?

>>60442749
True but I'm intimidated by the research. I feel like I'll never really learn "enough" to comfortably compare stuff and feel good about buying a build. I'm not even sure what I'm primarily gonna be using this pc for. Oh but I am pretty excited for the new Battlefront desu

>>60442753
You seem really nice no homo
Also
>that I would enjoy it more if I got it built for me
That's pretty much how I feel about it. Funny shit about no power for liquid cooling though! It makes for good memories I'm sure. Oh man maybe I should just head back and actually read through this thread for a good build. I do have one good buddy that has experience with this. I'd really like to just buy one but I have a hard time trusting most places and people.
Also are you sure about the warranty?

>>60442767
I'd tell you, but memers don't deserve answers.

>>60442934
this
people should stop coming to this general posting their filthy frog, wojak or facebook images, and hoping to get advice
this isn't your trashcan

>>60442857
>I feel like I'll never really learn "enough" to comfortably compare stuff
Start with watching CPU comparisons on youtube. The best ones to look at are
>Intel i5 vs AMD Ryzen 5
>Intel i7 vs AMD Ryzen 7

Then look at motherboard comparisons.
On Intel, only the Z-chipset motherboards have overclocking.
On AMD, the B and X chipset motherboards have overclocking, but only the X-chipsets have SLI and Crossfire support

Then look at GPU comparisons on games you intend to play to see how they perform. Choose among them within your price range.
Everything else is generally pretty simple to decide on with very little research.

>>60439848
Corsair 750D

Does anyone know of any good places online to buy IDE HDDs?

Oh and also DDR1, but like 2 or 4 gig sticks

>>60443063
aliexpress

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/pcbg/ takes their job they do for free very seriously and yall should respect that

what are the best options for cpu cooling in a NZXT s340?

>>60443134
depends on it you want air cooling or water cooling. The case is built for water cooling so if you want to air cool, you need 3 fans for the front. Otherwise a 240mm radiator AIO should suffice.

>>60443073
Thank you :)
If you're wondering what it's for I'm trying to supe-up my little brother's Compaq Presario SR1215CL so that he and I can play Diablo 2 together. I got him an AGP GPU, and it's just enough to get it to run but all he has is 1 stick of 512mb DDR

>>60443077
Why the fuck would you run Mac like that. It's like using condom that some one jacked off into.

>>60443187
I was just seeing if I could

>>60443207
... But it's got uTorrent on it, that's typically not indicative of one time use.
Anon... Are you trying to save face on a Taiwanese coke bottling workers union forum?

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I just finished installing "AMD all in 1 driver ver:16.50.2601" from the motherboard's download page and restarted the pc. Upon rebooting, the pc went straight to the uefi and the boot nvme drive I had installed windows on is no longer detected. It isn't detected in the windows 10 setup either. So now I'm not sure what to do to get the ball rolling again. Any thoughts?


x370 taichi bios 1.6 (i think)
1700x
bpx nvme drive

>>60443251
It looks like it's running windows and a mac os at once?

Is $300 a good price to pay for an i7-7700k?

>>60443444
yea mac is in a virtual box. I was just testing out mac OS and utorrent was something I installed to see how it works

>>60443409
So you did drivers update and it isn't detected? That's pretty weird. Have you tried reseating the SSD?

>>60443510
The 7700k is around $320. a $20 discount is pretty meh.

>>60443603
How could I reset the drive if pc doesn't detect it.

>>60443630
reseat. remove it from the motherboard then put it back.

>>60443630
Not running it on RAID? You might have to reset that.
Also try clearing CMOS, because couldn't hurt.

>>60443654
>>60443683
ill give those a try. not in raid tho.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zhQq8K

Just pretty much bought everything on that list...

This will be the case, total is just above $1700. A part of me is thinking I should reconsider the 1070 and just change it to a 1080 or 1080Ti. However this will be just a media streaming device and Blueray player. I might game on it but I have a dedicated gaming rig for that.

>>60443720
I lie. Clearing CMOS can hurt. Just remember to turn off the PC, and have it unplugged. Also when it's unplugged, press the on button to drain the capacitors.

>>60443724
you bought a $1700 pc for media streaming and bluray player?

>>60443739
It can somewhat game as well. I want something to play on the big screen. I will be adding stuff like a Sony BDDrive and a remote later.

>>60443739
He could have just bought an xbox one for that. Or even a ps3.

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>>60443758
if you like wasting money so much could you give me some?

>>60443759
I just wanted a nice PC for downstairs because its a pain in the ass trying to watch a youtube video on my PS4 or XboxOne, I just want a PC that I can connect to my TV with a keyboard for quick youtube so I can watch recipe videos while I cook.

>>60443789
if you already had a gaming build should've build something that made more sense
like, idk, a build with an R7 1700 that can handle 8K or above video decoding
could also help if you need to do anything CPU heavy while youre gaming upstairs

but what you did made no sense

>>60443781
If I wanted to waste money I would have bought an Alienware.

Seriously stop talking about money, a few grand seriously is not that much considering an average house payment here is like $3.5k. Just tell me if the 1070 will bottleneck the i7? Should I go with a 1080ti incase I wanted to play games?

>>60443800
I don't trust AMD CPU or GPU...

>>60443789
Well, to each their own, whatever works for you. It just baffles my frugal mind how people can spend so much money on a whim, but I guess that's what money's for

>>60443802
>a few grand seriously is not that much
It's not about the price but the fact that you're buying things that will not serve you in any way

>Just tell me if the 1070 will bottleneck the i7? Should I go with a 1080ti incase I wanted to play games?
At what res & what framerate???

>>60443814
No wonder you make such poor building decisions then
you're an uninformed rich fella

>>60443823
The TV is a 4k. I am mainly looking to play SFV and Overwatch.

>>60443836
>4k
You're gonna need two 1080TIs in SLI

>>60443850
don't make him make any poorer decision than he already did.

>>60443836
If it's only those two games, 4K on a GTX 1070 is easily doable, but might wanna up that to a GTX 1080 to ensures 0 dips below 60fps under any circumstance

If there's other games (demanding ones) then GTX 1080ti.

>>60443855
Shut up~

>>60443870
Thanks luckily ordering from Amazon I can just cancel the 1070 and go with the 1080Ti.

>>60443898
Two of em, for SLI, right?

>>60443902
This is an ITX so I can't do an SLI.

>>60443906
Aw shucks.

I want to build a home nas, any recommendation for the cpu, ram or mobo?

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>>60443906
>i7-7700k
>itx
>no water cooling

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>>60443933

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>>60443933
I bought a Corsair H100i on discount, its technically a radiator system.

>>60443510
Good price for an i7 7700k is around $220

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>>60443986
>220

>>60441588
>>60441853

kek

>>60443986
I just bought it for $300, no fucks given. Right now just looking for a a deal on a 1080Ti.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NFvWLD

Ausfag here.
I built this for gaming and very light workloads.
I initially had an MSI Z97 motherboard, but that refused to post after like 6 months, so I had to buy a cheap motherboard because of dead socket and me having no money. I got the CPU, original mobo, PSU and RAM from a mate for $400 because he was upgrading.

I also got the GPU off another mate brand new for $250 because he accidentally bought the 3GB model and store policy didn't let him return it.

I'm running a 1680x1050 monitor I nicked off my sister as my main monitor, and a 1080p TV for my second one, but the monitor quality is too shit for games.

What would you guys go for a first path of upgrade?

>>60444068
There's nothing that actually needs an upgrade in there.
Maybe get a 6 cores Ryzen or something, can't see anything else to do. Intend to get a 144hz screen maybe?
but that build is good for today's average gamer.

>>60444068
You can upgrade that 8gigs of ram to 16 if you really want to but those are some damn good specs.

>>60444053
>>60443986
>buying the supreme housefire cpu
wew

>>60444130
NVidia makes CPUs now?

did thye fix the compatibility issues with higher frequency ram on ryzen motherboards yet?

r5 1600 and rx 580 = match made in heaven?

>>60443928
Anything cheap, I guess and a reliable brand for mobo/ram. I've had an amd x2 270 and some gigabyte motherboard + 4GB of ram going 24/7 for 6 years. If it's just simple NAS tasks ie. basic fileserving tasks and maybe torrenting it really doesn't need much power.

>>60444255
Yes, just remember to update the bios

>>60444171
>7700k is a nvidia product
dumbass

>>60444556
you're bad at getting jokes

>>60444556
>not getting the reference
Underage B& detected

>>60443724
>spending almost $2000 on a quad core in 2017
wow the amount of retardation in this build just makes my head hurt

>>60444562
i remember thermi but that isn't nvidia anymore

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How's this for a cheap gaming computer?

>>60444585
what games?

>>60444585
You're joking, right? Why buy new parts at that pricepoint when you can get a used system for half the price?

>>60444596
Diablo 2, Starcraft, Warcraft3, Civ 4, Deus Ex, Alpha Centuri, maybe FEAR and Farcry

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>>60444585
Witcher 3 4k 144fps no problem you are good to go

>>60444610
you can get a g4560 + gtx 1050ti build for the same price and it'll perform infinitely better than this

>>60444616
>4K
My monitor is 1680x1050

>>60444627
Wait, are Pentiums relevant again?

>>60444585
its not 2004 anymore retard

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyJbzM

this build is infinitely better

>>60444646
Since they introducted hyperthreading to them, aka removing the only difference between them and i3s, yes

>>60444627
>1050 ti
garbage and pleb shit see >>60444652

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>>60444635
its ok you will supersample the image

>>60444657
Holy swagamoli, that's fucking schway. Would that pentium with hyperthreading be better than my haswell 4440 I5?

>>60444646
They're almost as powerful as i3's for half the price.

Check this video if you have time for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcYqvKr4Qc

>>60444673
no

>>60444665
the point was for the same price anon

>>60444673
no

>>60444673
No. Hyperthreading helps by adding "virtual cores", but real ones will still be much better.
Pentiums and i3s have 2 cores 4 threads (2 threads + 2 virtual ones), i5s have 4 cores 4 threads.

>>60444688
and a 570 can be had for almost the same price as a 1050ti and way better

>>60444585
u kidding me?

>>60444585
troll... right? Please say yes.

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>>60444646
>He doesn't know that it's all about the Pentiums
What kind of chip do you have, a Dorrito?

>>60444724
>>60444725
Sort of. I'm working on my brother's legacy computer and I wanted to see how much shit I could find on amazon for it. Turns out: I can build an entire legicy computer with parts on amazon.

I still may get that PATA HDD for my PS2 though, slap freemcboot on and a shitload of ISOs on it though.

>>60443941
>can you see the difference
Yes. One of those images is a before shot.

recommend good motherboards for i7 7700k?
why do some of them cost 100AUD more than the other? can i just buy a cheaper one and get better ram? do the "gaming"(TM) features even matter?

i'm just upset the bundle i was gonna get literally got taken down today

>>60444646
It's essentially an i3 for half the price. It's currently the king of budget builds until Ryzen 3 comes out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTccbalcbM

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Sup /g/, I could use some advice.

I'm still rocking a i5-4430 with a 550W power source and a 1440x900/75hz monitor and I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card. I have the money to spend on a 1070 I'm just wondering if it'll be overkill, I just mainly want something to last me for some gaming years.

>>60445107
yes, it is overkill. Get an RX 470/570, or RX 480/580/GTX 1060 (6GB). All of those do great at 1080p so they should serve you very well for 1440x900.

is 80W enough headroom with a PSU when planning a build? i.e. PCPartPicker is saying 364W draw, so is a 450W PSU an appropriate choice?

>>60445209
Yeah sure, but if your build is powerful enough to draw 364W why are you looking at cheap 450w PSUs?

>>60445245
SFX/ITX build. trying to find a sweet spot looking at available models locally.

>>60445107
i would stil take 1070 you will prabably want to change monitor soon

but 580 should be fine (for now).

im a yuropoor and local prices can be quite finicky, but I was already pushing my budget to get the 1500x and not 1400.

However 1600's price just dropped like 10% here making it only like €10 more than the 1500x.

Should I? Is the stock cooler good enough? I'm not interested in OC

>>60445209
yes and no

in 99% of cases you should operate at 50 to 80% of you psu because thats where most psus are the most efficient
i would take 500 or 550 psu just for a head room if you ever put stronger gpu in there
there is little difference in price any way

>>60445339
+1, I heard ryzen B350 mobos are sensitive about ram speeds. The one I picked (asus b360 prime plus) says 3200 mhz tops, but can it actually do it without sudokuing

>>60445359
yeah they are, as confirmed by my the RMA being processed on my Asrock AB350 Pro4; wouldn't boot after I tried 2933, even with a bios reset through jumper, and then battery

>>60444716
go ahead. Link me a $135 Rx 570.

>>60445404
so what should I do? order a slower ram like 2133 or 2400? Then after bios gets actually non shit a year later, buy faster?

>>60445339
Yeah get the 1600. The stock cooler is enough for a mild OC, so at stock clocks, you should be chilly.

>>60445437
what gpu?
You dont need more than 2400mhz unless you plan 1080ti

>>60445462
RX580

>>60445404
>ASRock
>the mobo brand that makes claims that literally defy the laws of physics
>has quality issues
hah, yeah, shocker.

>>60445437
Get 16Gb of whatever's cheapest per Gb when you're ready to order. If it's $10 extra consider going for 3000, and waiting for microcode/bios updates to fix the ram fuckery on the platform.

>>60445499
never had an issue from Sandy Bridge till now, but they've had their chance. Going for the X370 Prime once RMA is deal with.

Why the fuck are there NO 580s with two DVI ports

Why don't any cheap screens come with displayport

Why does HDMI still have fucking issues in 2017

>>60445499
>>the mobo brand that makes claims that literally defy the laws of physics
Like? Not that I doubt you. I wish to laugh.

>>60445531
https://www.law360.com/consumerprotection/articles/530406/gaming-motherboard-makers-face-false-ad-class-action

>>60445339
holy shit yes
2 more cores for 10€ is a steal, especially going from 4 cores

Anything wrong with running 1x 8Gb and 1x 4Gb DIMM? Noticing a bit of sluggishness when I do spreadsheet work and video-con + share my screen. Doubt I need much more, but I only have 1 DIMM so it's running at half-speed.

>>60445578
breaks dual channel, but having enough ram is more important

>>60445469
go for 2400mhz

>>60445593
I already am using one DIMM only. Does it have to be symmetrical in number (2/2, 4/4, 8/8, 16/16) or can I use 8/4 in dual channel?

>>60445667
it's recommended to use ram with the same frequency and size in other slots

>>60439762
>on average 30% more powerful than Nvidia's best $6000 card available
>disappointment
ok

>>60439807
It's a new manufacturer spec.
Has to support HDR10 and 1ms response time to be Freesync2.

>>60439927
That sucks, senpai.
imo it's not worth just getting a new motherboard since 4c/4t are aging poorly now days unless all you do is web browsing and old games.
I'd go with a 1600 or 1600X.

Like someone else, you could probably sell your 4690k for a decent price.

Does someone have that bottle neck comparison pic or just let my know if my i7 3770K would cause any with a 1070 or 1080?

>>60443724
>artic silver 5 and an h100i
Two of the worst choices you can make.
>$1700 build with only a $250 SSD
So you're a gaymurr, but you got an SSD that's only going to fit 5 games at a time on it, despite spending all that money? That makes no sense.
>$370 gtx 1070
?
>optical drive
is this 2007

>>60445530
>Why the fuck are there NO 580s with two DVI ports
DVI is almost dead, it doesn't support modern resolutions or refresh rates and there are no plans to update it. It'll start dissappearing soon just like VGA did.
>Why don't any cheap screens come with displayport
Cheap screens use outdate technology
>Why does HDMI still have fucking issues in 2017
Because it tries to bundle video, audio, return channels, data, DRM and probably some other bullshit into one connector.

>>60443724
>$1700 AIO cooled bluray player.
You're a colossal faggot and should go to reddit instead.

>>60445530
Why the FUCK would there be 580s with a single DVI port, let alone 2? That shit is so ancient.

>>60445768
If you overclocked it to like 4.5, you'll be alright. It'll likely bottleneck the 1080 still in some cases, then, though.

>>60443724
What the fuck are you doing. Spending that much money on a fucking meme build.

>>60445768
If you overclock it to 4-4.5GHz, you should be fine with the 1070.
I'm guessing you don't even have a monitor greater than 1080p 60hz to begin with, though.

So what's the consensus on the best CPU for the price? I'm considering getting either Ryzen 5 1600x or an i5 7600k. Would games be able to make use of all those threads/cores? Same with school/everyday programs?

>>60445966
>So what's the consensus on the best CPU for the price?
Ryzen 1600. Pretty much the same thing as the 1600X but at a slower stock clock speed. Still overclockable though.

Very few games out now utilize more than 4 cores, but the 7600k does tend to be maxed on some new games. The highest FPS on the Intel chips may be slightly higher, but the Ryzen chips have much higher minimum FPS. The threads on the Ryzen chips are also much more efficient then Intel's. 12 Ryzen threads is like 13.8 Intel threads.
A lot of game developers have committed to developing games to be optimized on more than 4 cores, so the Ryzen chips are more future-proof.

>>60445966
Obviously not the i5-7600k. It should cost like $125 for what you get.

The OP already says
>R5 1600 - the best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you don't want to OC
so there's your answer.

>>60446054
>Very few games out now utilize more than 4 cores
This is wrong. And they absolutely do use more than 4 threads and have for years. Stop perpetuating this lie.

Most games the past few years actually scale into 16 or even 20 threads perfectly fine. They just don't need all that power so utilization over them is low.
It's that both clock speed and threads are important, not just one or another, which should be fucking obvious.

What is RAM default speed when I plug it to mb for the first time? Let's say it's 3200 Mhz.

>>60446282
Most likely 2133.

Any anons pulled off ryzen builds and gotten their ram speeds to 3200mhz stable?
What's your setup? I'm about to drop 220€ on a 2x8gb 3200mhz cas 14 because
that is the best value for money option i could pull off from checking all the
motherboard's qvls for ram that is supported at those speeds. Going to stick this ram
into Asrock AB350 Gaming K4 where i found G.skill Flare X being supported at 3200mhz.

>>60446390
>budget mobo
>high end ram
This is retarded. Get cheaper G.Skill Ripjaws V or Corsair LPX and OC to 2666 or 2993 and wait for may AGESA update to get to 3200/3000.
It's not worth to overspend on RAM if you're on budget, especially not if it's a gaymen machine.

Hello.

My girlfriend of quite some time now can get pretty ''moody'' at times, without clear reason she decides that I'm the bad one and isn't prone to being aggressive. I can handle it but today something unfortunate happened.

My computer has been destroyed completely by my girlfriend, nothing of it is usable / salvagable anymore.

Because I have to work very hard hard for little money, I'm on a very small budget and was wondering what would be the best I could get for my money. Unfortunately I'm not that good with computers and my knowledge is pretty outdated.

I hope that you can recommend me a complete setup to play WoW with for about 600-800 euro's I have in savings from the past years(Everything, mouse / keyboard / monitor / headset that I can talk with on Teamspeak and Discord too and the OS she snapped the disc in half and threw away the small notebook I kept with the code and other passwords)

I unfortunately can't go above this budget because these 600-800 are all I can spend, it's the money I had saved up for 2-3 years on the side bit by bit so I don't have more.

I don't need the best graphics, I'd go on lowest graphics when that is required in order to get decent FPS.

I have to buy everything, unfortunately I have no family or friends here.
Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated, I'm very much looking forward to any replies.

Helping a friend put together a computer for about $800. Prices are rather inflated in boland tho.
Coming from xbox360 and using it for professional writing means not much focus on nor expections regarding performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/37j2Gf
Is there anything objectively wrong or that could be improved?
I suggested a cm450 but it's almost twice as expensive and the case will likely be something more "fun" than the define c mini.

>>60446457
But for the am4 motherboards there is really no reason to buy an expensive mobo
considering b350 ones overclock just fine, it's not like getting a more expensive mobo
is going to make performance better anyways considering i plan to just overclock r5
1600 on stock cooler at 3.7-3.9ghz. From what i've read so far ryzen benefits alot from
faster ram which is why i'm investing on high ram speeds and the only reason i chose
a cas 14 is because they're listed on my mobo's qvl as being supported at the 3200mhz speed.

>>60446467
So you just let others fuck up your shit? You aren't making her pay for it?

>>60446467
Sell her organs for new rig, i'm not even kidding. Considering she's your girlfriend you probably can trick her
into getting some strong sleeping pills and just leave her on the drop off spot just make sure to ask to be
payed in either cash or bitcoins.

>>60446467
Make her pay for it
Make her your ex-girlfriend
That's all there is to it

>>60446530
Unfortunately I'm the one making money.
She used to work but doesn't anymore because she lost her job.

She's my girlfriend, I guess that's why there's no further consequences to this for her.

>>60446565
Haha this sounds like something from the movies, I'm afraid I can't follow this advice up.
But thanks.

>>60446602
She has no money of her own at the moment, she used to work but lost her job at a hotel a while ago.

Not sure if ending things with her would be better for me, as I have nobody here already.

But thanks for the advice.

>>60446565
the fuck

>>60446628
rape is the only answer

>>60446628
You NEED to get away from her. You're observing a pattern of mental illness common to women. She WILL escalate and hurt you, destroy your things, accuse you of rape, put you into child support slavery, etc

>>60446669
I'm not sure how this would help me get a new computer.

>>60446628
tell her tough shit. Take her to court over this if you have to. Went through the same thing several years ago when my sister tossed a laptop into the bathroom in a fit of PMS rage, destroying it against the toilet.

Small women are just concentrated evil.

>>60446779
This. Break it off and sue her over this.

>>60446613
Fuck it, i'll throw something together but for real this kind of behavior is a terrible red flag bro just move on,
it only is going to get worse.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGCzd6
Recommending the keyboard i use for WoW is actually super cheap and durable and has 6 extra buttons
on the side for extra keybinds which is great. If you can find them also replace headphones with
Element HD-3500G been using them for years work great cost only 20$.

>>60446779
I guess I'll leave her the moment I find another woman, a better ''alternative''.

Thanks for the concern and advice.

>>60446805
>I guess I'll leave her the moment I find another woman
why wait? You're just prolonging your suffering.

>>60446467
Fucking cuck. Are you really fine with living with a psycho slut just because she sometimes let you use her diseased pussy?
Yes 600 euro is enough for something that can run time wasting trash MMOs, idiot.
And wait, what kind of monster can destroy a PC hard enough that you can re-use a single part? Was it a cardboard case?
Jesus christ.

>>60446792
You may be able to swing more from the budget.
I ran the conversion. 800 euros is like $891 USD.
I'd try for a Rysen 5 1400.

Which mATX B350 AM4 boards absolutely work with 3200 MHz RAM?

>>60446791
Thank you for your advice, unfortunately I have no money to go to court though.
I guess I'd be happy if I have my computer again and on the side I'll start looking into leaving her, it's not very easy though since I moved here because of her and have nobody else.

>>60446792
Thank you very much, I'm going to check which parts of this list are available here and if they're same price. (I'm in euro zone)
Thank you, I appreciate your help very much.
I realize that her behavior is abnormal, it kind of grew on me with time though, got used to it.
However destroying my computer is something she hasn't done before, mobile phones yes, but anything else not really.

>>60446809
I get what you're saying, and I have to say you're right.
Unfortunately I'm not the kind of person that easily bonds, we've been trough quite a bit me and my girlfriend hence the fact why I grew so attached to her.
This however, once again, showed me that I'm basically ''punishing'' myself staying loyal and being there for her.
Thank you for your post.

>>60446840
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kjTJD8
Here. I edited his parts list so it should still be in budget but be more future-proof/more powerful.
Using the USD to Euro conversion mentioned
>>60446835

>>60446835
I will look into the Rysen 5 1400, not everything is available here unfortunately so I'll have to check for that too.
But thanks for the recommendation, when I manage to stay under budget I will check out if I can afford a Rysen 5 1400.

How likely is it that AMD will release a Vega card that sits in between the 580 and 1070? I'm looking at getting the 580 8GB for 1440p@60 but it feels like the 1070 would be overkill for the games I want to play

how is the pentium g4560 able to be so cheap, and why doesnt amd have an answer?

>>60446888
Thanks alot, that's fantastic.
I will save this list too and head to the store to check for the parts as soon as I have the time.
Much appreciated.

>>60446835
R5 1400 is rather bad value for money tho, for a little extra one can get the 1600.
>>60446840
Would also recommend if you're raiding very seriously to save up for ryzen 5
which will probably cost you +150-200 in total(depending on country) because
if you go up to ryzen 5 1600 you will be able to raid with ultra settings at
60fps stable + teamspeak/discord/skype/raidcall + streaming the raid or
recording it or both. With the g4560 build you'll be able to pull of a stable 60fps
on medium settings in raid enviroments but you'll be limited on the things you
have on the background.

I hope its right to post this here.

Troubleshooting my brothers pc. It started with a GPU error beep code. Reseated Gpu, worked fine. But when i got it upright it stopped working again. Then it worked again and now the pc tries to start, fans spin up for half a second, then it dies. And this repeats itself until the power is cut.
It does this even without gpu or ram installed

Now i have confirmed the GPU , RAM and PSU working on another mobo. I dont have another mobo with the same socket so i cant verify the CPU.

The PC in question is a shitty ass prebuilt. Mobo is just marked MS-7848.

Im out of ideas.
Is it a short in the PCIe connector?
Is the Mobo/CPU toast?

so how much would a used EPYC processor cosst 7 years from now? I kinda want to get one just too see how it would perform in everyday tasks.

>>60446898
leaks suggest it'll be 1070 or better, and also cost more than a 1070.

>>60446907
Why would they have an answer? They're targeting the i3 instead because there's no reason to get a dual core for a desktop PC in 2017 unless you're so poor that you shouldn't be looking at buying a PC in the first place

>>60446889
Ryzen 5 runs on a completely different platform so it's something you'd have to decide on before ordering parts. Ryzen 5 is the best price to performance ratio CPUs on the market. The cheapest Ryzen 5 is the 1400, a 4 core, 8 thread chip. The top of the line Ryzen 5 is the 1600X, which has 6 cores and 12 threads making it much more powerfull, but also almost $100 USD more. By starting with the 1400, you give yourself the option to eventually upgrade to a more powerful Ryzen chip down the line.

>>60446916
Hopefully I will be able to find one within my budget.
Thank you for your detailed explaination and your recommendation.

>feeding the obvious /r9k/ crossboarder/troll

>>60446916
>for a little extra one can get the 1600.
we're also talking a limited budget that includes peripherals. He can switch to the 6 core 1600 later on or upgrade to one of the Zen+ chips next year. The 1400 is a perfectly acceptable stopgap since it competes rather well with an Intel i5 7400.

>>60446944
Thank you for your explaination.
This sounds like the best alternative, this way once I have a little money saved up again I can upgrade as I might not be able to afford it right now, I'll go check for prices at the store soon though.

Thanks a lot.

>>60446907
Raven Ridge will be their answer, better iGPU than what Intel offers

>>60446972
Yeah, I'll probably go with the 1400 at first.
I will start saving up for the 1600 eventually then.

>>60446938
its a popular cpu and one of the most recommended.

>>60447002
why is it always "just wait" with amd?

10-40% markup on computer parts where i live
cant really order online its too risky, get to you all busted with our shitty mail service

>>60446999
and there's a Ryzen chip family above the 5 series. The Ryzen 7. Ryzen 7 uses the same motherboarbs/ram, but has 8 cores and 16 threads.
The Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X are essentially Ryzen 7 1700 and 1700X chips with 2 cores deactivated.
and the Ryzen 1400 and 1500X are also essentially Ryzen 7 chips but with a further 2 cores deactivated.
This makes it cheaper for them to produce higher core count chips than Intel at a lower price.

>>60446956
If you find saving up an option or have possibly some temporary peripherals
the pc build itself is within your budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZNPd6
and you just have to search around price comparison sites in your country for
cheap good peripherals and a 120$ 1920x1080 freesync monitor.
>>60446972
Considering he has to buy peripherals a r5 1400 would surpass his budget so
it'd be much wiser if he were to save up a little more to build something more
value for money plus future proof considering he's into mmo's which benefit from
good cpu.

>>60446972
The CPU is not a good thing to plan to upgrade.

You're not going to resell it like you could a video card, it's a pain in the ass to change out, you've got to burn the new one in and re-OC it...

Skimp on RAM, storage, hell even the case. Get the 1600 off the bat. Much less annoying.

So ive got all of my parts except the motherboard. I read that it doesnt really do anything except connect the parts. Is there a way I can wire all of my components together so I can play until the actual motherboard arrives?

>>60442633
Depends what you look for in a case

I have the s340 and it's not bad, but there could be a bit more width for bigger coolers or cable Management, but it looks clean up top for the most part. Wish there was a fan infront of the HDD bay.

>>60447015
If you're that poor, I'm sure an overclocked 1400 is fine for you.

Just upgrade to Zen3 3600 or something in 2 years or when your 1400 overclocked to 3.8 stops feeling fast enough for you.

>>60447039
because they deliver when you do, instead of forcing overpriced garbage down your throat.

>>60446917
It sounds like the motherboard is the issue, but yes it could be CPU.

>>60447073
>Considering he has to buy peripherals a r5 1400 would surpass his budget so
>it'd be much wiser if he were to save up a little more to build something more
>value for money plus future proof considering he's into mmo's which benefit from good cpu.
Not if he has to buy a new motherboard when the time comes. It's much easier to keep the motherboard since the AM4 platform is brand new.
If that really is you're argument, he should wait a month or 2 for Ryzen 3 chips to come out since those'll blow i3's and Pentium's away while still using the AM4 socket platform.

>>60445943
I'm gonna purchase a new monitor along with a gpu. With my budget though it was either high end gpu or a mid range + new cpu/mobo.

>>60446918
>>/sqt/

>>60447098
No. Don't even try.

>>60446467
Dispose of her, not even kidding
I have a NEET GF and even she's more tolerable considering she helped me with the fine motor parts of building my PC

>>60447073
>Considering he has to buy peripherals a r5 1400 would surpass his budget
no it wouldn't. You're thinking 800 dollars.
He said 800 EUROS, which is just under $900.
>>60446888
already proved it's in his budget.

>>60447133
Just get RX580 and a 1440p 144hz IPS Freesync. You can get that for the same price as 1080p 144hz GSync *TN* + 1070.

You obviously won't do 144fps on much besides CSGO with an RX580, but you'll have a nice monitor for when you upgrade to Vega or Navi. Or when Nvidia stops being cunts and adopts Freesync.

>>60447127
The reason i wouldn't recommend Ryzen 3 to him is the use he's planing to do.
Most people who play WoW have to multitask alot so getting a 6core processor
is going to pretty much ensure a very stable life-cycle for his pc considering
WoW is still running on its 12year old core for the most part still the r5 1600
build is going to carry him throughout the game's future expansions with ease.
To break it down he'll have r5 1400 performance on the game alone while having
2 spare cores for the shitton of multitasking he'll be doing during raids.

>>60447185
800$ is way more than 800€ is computer parts.
If you actually want to put together something using US sites, then neglect all rebates, and make the budget $720, or so.

>>60447268
https://themoneyconverter.com/EUR/USD.aspx
read it and weep mother fucker.

>>60447191
Pretty sure WoW relies on single core performance... So, even a G4560 is probably good to go

>>60447298
You fucking mongoloid, there's 25% taxes added onto the prices, so EU hardware is 25-30% more expensive, and there are no rebates like there are in the US.

anyone having issues uploading images?

>>60447191
>>60447337
WoW is fine even on stock clocks 1600. But yes, a G4560 is also great on it if that's all someone plays.
Even in a town with 100 people on screen, you'll get 100fps on any newer 3GHz cpu.

>>60447298
>>60447337
For example.

r5-1600 prices
>US: 218$
>EU: 270$

>>60447186
You're probably right I need to get out of my brandfag mindset. I'll look into it.

>>60447376
idk why you'd be brand loyal to Nvidia now days. I could understand in like 2008, I guess.
Nvidia's drivers and software are way worse now.
And Gsync is a fucking jew scam.

Freesync is open and free for manufacturers adopt, thus there are far more Freesync monitors, far more options and competition, and much lower prices.
Some equivalent Gsync monitors are $600 more than their Freesync counterparts. They're usually at least 40% more, but sometimes double. It's a fucking joke.

>>60447337
Wow can use up to 6 cores it just mostly utilizes the first 2-4 on high %
and the rest are only used at 10-20%. I'm just including what realistically
is going to be going on on the background if he raids and such. Yes,
a G4560 will do fine if he's mindful of what he has on the background but
the thing is he'll be stuck with a b250 mobo so upgrade-path doesn't look
bright for him.

>>60447065
Thanks, I'm afraid that a Ryzen 7 is way out of my league though. I can't even afford a 1600 yet probably but a 1400 should be do-able for now.

Perhaps when I save up a little again I can buy a Ryzen 7 right away instead of a 1600.

Thanks for the helpful information and detailed explaination.

>>60447073
I would like to have a computer again as soon as possible.
I will check your list too, thanks a lot for your help and recommendation, it's much appreciated.

>>60447108
Thanks a lot for your recommendation, I'll go with the 1400 then I guess as that would be a better fit for my current budget.
I'll eventually upgrade to either a 1600, a Ryzen 7 or the Zen3 3600 you recommended, I have enough time to compare until then.

>>60447180
Thank you for your kind words, I understand that it's abnormal the way she behaves but for now I guess I'll have to deal with it.

>>60447359
Blame Trump supporters on /pol/ for breaking 4chan again. They posted illegal shit on one of their threads to cover their Russian-Spy-In-Chief's ass, causing 4chan to go into read-only mode while the mods restarted the server to an earlier snapshot.

>>60447298
You're an idiot. EU prices have more taxes & there's less supply so less competition which mean less rebates, further driving the price higher.

>>60447441
You can't spend that much money on the CPU when he needs an entire new build.
G4560 + b250 mobo + rx 560/gtx 1050 + 500gb hdd + cheap case + noctu/silent wings fan + cheap mouse and keyboard + moderately cheap headphones/set + 1080p 60hz monitor.

(the post is a meme btw)

>>60447073
Bruh, you're like $300 over budet... How can you all fail these simple tasks?

>>60442464
Thanks for the input.

>>60447435
Yea I'm still using the same/first build I made 4-5 years ago and haven't had a flush of income until now. I honestly should just save up a bit more and approach this fresh as a completely new build

>>60447509
>500gb hdd
>the post is a meme btw
In any case, do not buy an hdd for WoW, it is a nightmare
makes loading screens last forever...
>>60447531
I'm just giving him advice for a best value for money build if he was willing to save. I just find the idea of r5 1400 pretty bad for WoW considering he can
future proof the games entire life-cycle with a r5 1600 which is also a cpu
that will only get better for gaming in the future. It is always wiser to make
a proper budget build and waiting a little for it than making something you'll
want to upgrade much sooner.

>>60447590
You're basically suggesting he doubles his budget.

You have a budget, and within that budget you put in the most valuable component in the price range. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's somebody who just wants to see how many can actually "build" computers here... And you fail the test, because you only know of the most standard build.

>>60446467
>My computer has been destroyed completely by my girlfriend, nothing of it is usable / salvagable anymore
>unfortunately I have no family or friends here
Run.

i have an fx-6300 oc'd at 4.5.

is upgrading within the am3+ socket worth it at all or should i just wait until i'm ready to bite the bullet and replace the board and ram as well when i go to ryzen?

i don't generally play the latest games but i do have rising storm 2 and on some maps the fps can get a bit shaky. i have an r9 290 so it's probably time to bring the cpu in line.

>>60447725
just wait until you're ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to Ryzen's AM4 platform.

>>60447662
Eventually yeah, thanks for your advice.
I'll try to get a physch person to help her first though before ending it.

>>60446467
>My girlfriend of quite some time now can get pretty ''moody'' at times, without clear reason she decides that I'm the bad one
This is why you need to convert to Islam. A woman shall not raise her fist in anger towards the man who possesses her. Strike her down, and show no pity in doing so. She has sullied you, and in the eyes of Allah she must be punished.

>>60440257
bump

>>60447783
>islam
the first step to joining Scientology, err.... the cult of Tom Cruise worshippers.

More related to the thread
CPU that was was in the board is a i5-4440. If it still works I think ill have him get a used mobo and a gtx 960 (currently has a 650ME) because hes a poorfag and the cpu should still be adequate.

>>60447108
>It sounds like the motherboard is the issue, but yes it could be CPU.
Well, now it doesnt do anything anymore.
Hope its just the board.

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>>60446467
My addition to the "gf broke my computer and peripherals" challenge
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gpj2Gf

Possibly slightly over budget, toss away HDD (20$), or go down to a gtx 1050 (30$), or remove SSD (95$), depending on how much money you need to save.
Put both of the included fan as front intakes on the case.

Pretty confident nobody can beat this.

>>60448113
Oh, and obviously... You can't include an OS into this, buy a key from allkeyshop (5$), use a 8gb USB stick and download the windows installer on it, ask your boss if you can get to use the work computer for it.

If the challange absolutely requires OS on CD, then remove the SSD, and downgrade to GTX 1050 to keep in EU budget.

>>60448113
Haha thanks for your participation to the challenge.

Thanks a lot for you recommendation I'll save this and will check the store for prices.
Your help is much appreciated.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ycbzM
R8 OR H8

>>60448177
But that's an i5, you retard!

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Hello please

I am about 2 years since my last build.
I need something desperatley. I dont autism too much so just normal 1080p gaming.
Mostly going to play Arma3, mmos(wow, dota, csgo etc...) and your ocasional aaa game if it warrants pirating it.

anyway where i live this build will cost $1144. its the typical markup for pc parts here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N4F8qk

anytips or suggestions? dont have access to all parts but i can generally find the parts that are at the top of the 'most popular' in pcpartpicker

thank you please

>>60448231
yah so?

>>60448247
So your build is dogshit.
Read the OP before posting.

>>60448113
>450W psu when anon mentioned his plans to upgrade in the future
>mid tower case at 65$ with micro-atx mobo
>250gb hdd instead of having none so he can add a good value for money option later
>nvidia gpu when g-sync is so expensive and when he can get a much better gpu and stay in budget with rx 570 4gb or wait for 560 which should be out soon
>1x8gb ram no dual channel
>anon stated he plays wow yet no G-keys on kb or extra keys on mouse.

Can any Spanish anons recommend me a good site to order components? The CPU cooler I'm going for just went out of stock on overclockers and I don't know when it will be back in stock. I live in Gibraltar so buying components from Spain is a good option for me.

Are either of these sites any good?

https://www.pccomponentes.com/noctua-nh-u14s

http://www.coolmod.com/noctua-nh-u14s-disipador-cpu-precio

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Looking for a bit of input on motherboard choice.

>>60448295
Get Asrock b350 better.

>>60448113
>>60448174
>$130 for a 1050Ti
not worth it. Too much when you can get an RX570 for $40 more.
Should get a cheaper one.

The SSD + small HDD makes no fucking sense, too, when you could get a 500GB+ SSD for $30 more.

Single stick of RAM gimping performance as well.

Your build is super ass. I won't waste time trying putting a better one together with how clearly awful that is

>>60448235
That PSU is way overkill, the RX470 or 570 is good enough for 1080p, especially if you're mostly going to play older titles, and you can save money on getting a mATX motherboard and case. But if you want to keep your build for at least 2-3 years then it's worth to go with the 480, especially if it's like where I live and the 470 is barely cheaper than the 480. I would get faster RAM too, 3200 mHz doesn't really cost that much more than 2400.

Hey, /g/!


I want to buy a gaming pc for 1080p 60hz. I might update my monitor in a year or two. The basic build is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h6sLLD


Now I just have to decide i7 or R7? I heard that Ryzen is inferior in gaming but i7 has some issues. So, is ryzen gaming a meme? Some of you may say that 1080 is an overkill but I want it - it is cheap and I want to max out settings for some time. Also, don't want R5. It is the same chip with less cores and I don't really care about value - I just want a great set up, so it is R7 vs i7, as they cost the same.


I am not afraid of OCing but I won't delid. Example of games I am playing: any new multiplayer game with friends, PUBG, hots, sc2, siege, wow, strategy games, some aaa, a little arma maybe. I just want to be able to play any game comfortably.


Thanks, anons

>>60448550
>I don't really care about value
Than just blow your load and buy an i7 7700k.

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>>60448113
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9xcbzM
New list.

SSD can't be kept for this price range, the 500w PSU is in line more with realistic EU pricing. I doubt you'd be used to SSD loading times anyway, so nothing will really change there.
Slightly smaller, windowless, case... Same shit, 2 fans included, to be placed as double intakes. However, this limits you to mATX boards, or smaller. Just switch out to a s340 if you want ATX builds in future, both of these cases are good, and will last you for as long as you want to keep it.

Even a freesync monitor... but 60fps is going out of style.

>>60448284
RX 570 has apparently lowered in price, the difference used to be about $100. Keep in mind this is EU, not US, new hardware takes a couple of months to drop in price.

HDD is required for various shit, like movies and tv series, you don't want to put those things onto your SSD.

1x8gb obviously, since it's a intel CPU, and buying dual channel reduces compatibility for future upgrade.

450w is enough, it's only really high end stuff that requires any more. For lifespan sake, lets add 50w.

S340 is a good buy, it includes 2 case fans. I don't know if anon wants to upgrade in a mid tower, or mini tower in the future.

>>60448339
You literally can't make a better build.

Getting 2x4gb sticks on mATX mobo is completely gimping yourself for future upgrades. mATX only has 2 RAM slots, mITX too only has 2 RAM slots. Intel really isn't that gimped by single channel anyway, it's really only ryzen that is hyper sensitive to ram.

Price difference between RX 570 and gtx 1050 ti used to be around $100, it's dropped now though, apparently. This is EU, not US.

>>60448550
If you don't care about value for money and also don't care about heavy multitasking and just want the best gaming performance just get i7-7700k with an expensive watercooler to oc it and yes you have to delid just check a couple of guides it isn't that hard. If you want to hit that 5ghz with good chances of not getting housefire that is the way to go. Alternatively get r5 1600x with 50-70$ tier fan and overclock to 4.2-4.3ghz.

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Does this look acceptable for 1440p@60FPS and as an entry level workstation for Premiere, Lightroom, Ableton Live and very occasional Photoshop? I'll probably buy the Define Mini C with the window, different colored RAM and the EVGA 500W Bronze in another store since this is the only thing they carry but this store is the cheapest when it comes to the GPU and CPU. I already have a 500GB SSD.

>>60448550
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h6sLLD
>1080p 60hz
Wat. Just get an RX570.
1080 is a card for getting 100-144fps+

>Also, don't want R5
That's retarded. It's still 50% more cores and threads than the 7700k has.
Get the R5 1600 or 1600X.

>>60448602
>single DIMM of single rank

>>60448625
Looks pretty ideal.
Though really I don't think you need faster than 2666 for just 60fps. And SSD is really nice to have.

>>60448625
That psu isn't very good, consider a seasonic one at that price. Motherboard should be okay but i'd personally pick Asrock considering from what i've heard no anons had issues with it unlike from other manufacturers.

stupid question asker returns. what would YOU prefer and why:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ph78qk

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kqjpLD

>>60448615
>overclock to 4.2-4.3ghz
This is literally impossible with safe voltage

>>60448646
>Wat. Just get an RX570.
>1080 is a card for getting 100-144fps+
Man, I said that I need cpu advice. I made up my mind with gpu. Anyway, rx580 costs like $350 in my country. The difference with 1080 is like $100.
>>60448582
Why is everyone so mad about muh value on this board? There is less then $100 between r5 and r7 in my country. I am buying it for 3-4 years. I can manage without saving every penny. And are you serious about i7 being better than R7 for my use?
>>60448615
I doubt that I will be ocing to 5ghz. Why? 4.6 is good enough for me. From what I read, getting 3.9 on R7 below 1.35 is highly lucky, so the difference is large as it is. But I don't know whether it will translate to large difference in gaming, and that's what I am asking.

>>60448646
I care more about the workstation performance than the gaymen, and I already have a 500GB SSD

>>60448652
The only Seasonic PSUs I can find are a 450W Gold one that costs twice as much as the one I choose and the next step above that are 650W and above that cost 4 times as much, and I can't find any silver rated ones either, only bronze and gold.

>>60448646
>single DIMM of single rank
Those are double rank actually.

This is intel, not ryzen... Fucking learn your god damn hardware.

I ordered this item from jet.com:
https://jet.com/product/CORSAIR-Vengeance-LPX-16GB-2-x-8GB-288-Pin-DDR4-SDRAM-DDR4-3200-PC4-25600-Deskto/33a65582b0474bb68201fe0750fd05e2

It just arrived and they shipped me the black and yellow version. I was originally going to get that anyway, but I specifically ordered the white version because it was the only one of that model on my motherboard's compatibility list. Should I send it back or is this not an issue? They were the same price.

Here's the compatibility list:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-PC-MATE.html#support-mem

>>60448757
Oh if 1080 is only 30% more, then fair enough.

>>60448667
People do hit 4.2 on 1.4V sometimes.

>>60448793
Faster RAM than 2666 doesn't affect most productivity programs.

>>60448813
>This is intel, not ryzen... Fucking learn your god damn hardware.
no u
>BLS8G4D240FSB
That's single rank, you dumb piece of shit.

>>60448793
Funny that, silver PSUs are literally extinct where I am as well.

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I posted here yesterday to get some opinions on my build and was told that the pieces I have chosen are good. I'm only replacing my cpu, mobo and ram and was thinking of going AMD because they're offering the best value at the moment. My computer will be used for mostly gaming/photoshop/illustrator/after effects/game streaming.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FHbR6X

Although I was told this motherboard is good, I can't help but think there might be a better choice. This one is full of RGB and has a gamer aesthetic that I couldn't care less for. I do plan on OCing my 1600, but was wondering if there was a non gamer motherboard that would work as well and for cheaper since it doesn't have the gamer tax. Or is this gamer aesthetic how all good computer parts are these days?

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>>60448280
any better?

>>60448922
>2133 memory

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>>60448841
>>BLS8G4D240FSB
>That's single rank, you dumb piece of shit.
Sorry m8, it's not.

CRUCIAL 8GB 2Rx8 BLS8G4D240FSB.16FARG DS Micron 16-16-16-39 1.2v 2400mhz

>>60448906
Give the ASRock AB350 Pro4 a look.

>>60448994
>2666 memory

>>60448922
Get ballistix sport LT 2x8gb 2400mhz. They're overclockable to 2933 or 3200mhz, and they're dual rank.

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>>60449112
like this?

Maybe this is more /diy/ than /pcbg/ but I want to build an always-on mini-server into my PC case. The purpose is for it to act a a) as home fileserver and b) a linux instance where I can run stuff like postgres while I run windows on the main box.
I'll be using either a Radxa, which I already have lying around. I also have a Raspy, but I have chose the Radxa because it has more interfaces. The WiFi antenna will stick out of the back of the "host" case.
So I have 2 questions: Which PSU power connectors are always-on, if any? I want an ethernet link to the host, is there any way to do this internally? Or maybe I could emulate it over USB to one of the internal headers?

>>60449162
I think those, yeah.
Try to find the serial number, and match them with this list >>60449041

The end values stand for their color, and CL I think.

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I upgraded my old shitty GPU for a 1060 recently. Didn't wanna go any further than that since I have an 8350. I'm not too knowledgeable about the VDDC but I've heard it's supposed to be around 1.0v. Is this fine? It's an EVGA 1060 SSC 6GB.

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>>60449162
Looking a lot like my own build.

is there a way to use adaptive sync with an nvidia gpu without gsync? Gsync monitors are so fucking expensive and freesync monitors lack capable gpu's to actually utilize the adaptive sync well

Is it safe putting a NH-D15 in a Corsair 400C? Or should I be safe and go for the NH-D14 which is a bit smaller for a performance difference of 1.5-3.5 degrees?