>dozens upon dozens of articles announcing "the death

>>60439671
I just converted an entire series from FLAC to AAC. u mad?

>>60439701
Fuck off back to /pol/

AAC works on almost any modern device

>>60439718
There's no way you're not a kike.

It's just the MSM pushing fake news.

>>60439718
Why are you so offended by a simple question? Are you afraid of the answer? Or do you know the answer and want to keep people from finding out?

>>60439843
I'm annoyed because EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME ANYONE MENTIONS ANYTHING EVEN TANGENTIALLY DONE FOR MONEY IT'S ((((((((((((((((THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSS))))))))))))))), AS THOUGH EVERY FUCKING BODY WHO BELIEVES IN AN INVISIBLE MAN WHO LIVES IN THE CLOUDS DOESN'T DO SHIT FOR MONEY.

>>60439879
No one even mentioned the Jews until you started kvetching up a storm, Schlomo.

>>60439900
>>60439843
>>60439786
>>60439782
>>60439781

Fuck off back to /pol/

Why isn't Ogg Vorbis next in line? It's so good. You can turn a 30mb flac file into a 3mb one and it'll sound just as good.

>can't make money off of it
>IT'S DEAD

But who? Who could be behind this?

>>60440792
Opus is maintained by the same organization behind Vorbis and considered by them to be the successor to it.

>>60440840
Ah, I see that I've been living under a rock.

Who owns AAC?

Let's talk about why Apple hopped on the AAC wagon to begin with.....
Don't you think the engineers at apple are a bit smarter than you OP? heheh

>>60440840
Opus also shits on everything else.

http://opus-codec.org/comparison/

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>>60439718
>>60439879
>>60439925
Why are you so mad about /pol/ when nobody except for you mentioned /pol/ once?

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Here's a complete list of everything that's changed about MP3 to spurr these sudden "MP3 is ded" articles

>The patent expired
>That's it

It would take a real fuckin' dense person to ignore that. MP3 is now a libre format. So the recording industry and their paid shills suddenly and mysteriously want it gone.

>>60440977
At the very least it's a good opportunity to reevaluate what's available and whether it's time to switch or not

>>60439925
Don't forget to take your meds old fella

Who fucking cares.

The only time I have had to worry about an audio format in the past 5 years is when I had to set hold music for my building's VoIP system.

>>60441049
This sudden shilling of AAC is very suspicious.

>>60439925
It's pretty clear what you are man

>>60441115
People wise to shilling and industry kikery are already using FLAC or Vorbis anyways

>>60439671
>implying I give a shit
>implying i'll stop using mp3s

This is just like when they killed Pepe; meaningless.

>>60441210
>implying you didn't stop using mp3 in favour of a superior, modern, open source alternative
I seriously hope...

>>60441115
You're probably listening to it right now.

>>60439671

Mock the people pushing for .aac.

Fun-fact: the person who owned the patent on .mp3 owns the patent on .aac.

He's a con artist looking to steal money from you and others.

>>60439671
AAC is a great audio format, there's no denying that. And it's fine that corporations use it. I don't mind. But I also don't see any personal use for it.

For storing audio on a harddrive there's FLAC.
For storing phones on my phone there's OPUS which has been supported since Android 5.0.

I'm not really sure what the need for AAC is but if it's already in AAC then I'm keeping it in AAC.

>>60441574
>Fun-fact: the person who owned the patent on .mp3 owns the patent on .aac.
Really? No wonder they are spewing out propaganda saying .mp3 is dead.

Gues what? MP3 just became undead, very alive - with the legal inclusion of it in all GNU/Linux distributions and a huge variety of software.

>>60441624
How stupid are you?
How could you not correlate the ending of the mp3 patent by the wave of 'mp3 is dead' stuff

>>60439671
Don't believe these anti-Semites

AAC offers superior audio quality with respectable file sizes and cross-platform capabilities for all users to enjoy. For the best user experience across all your devices, I personally recommend the AAC as it is truly the modern solution now that MP3 is no longer supported and may be susceptible to attacks from malicious hackers.

>>60441240
.mp3 is libre now and since I never jumped on the autism train for FLAC I have no reason to not use .mp3 now.

>>60441758
You use flac for source files, then encoded down to something else for use on limited storage devices.

i use flac for everything because it does sound slightly better>>60441758

>>60439879
t. Hans Neufag Von Schlomo

>>60441737
MP3 has been dead for a decade and a half, moron.

>>60439718
>>60439925
>>60439879
Wow shlomo sheckelstein on his period.

>>60439671
AAC encoding/decoding is more complex than MP3 encoding/decoding. This means that while you can have a smaller AAC file with the same quality as compared to MP3, the decoding process is more CPU-intensive, and as such means shorter battery life on portable devices when listening to AAC instead of MP3.

>>60439671
The sad thing is that once Apple says "MP3 is dead", most normies will accept it and literally go as far as rebuying (or at least trying to redownload) their music in another format, just to avoid being a "luddite" who sticks to an "obsolete format".

>>60439671
>OGG lost to MP3
>Opus will lose to AAC

Why isn't this a surprise?

>>60442455
*Vorbis lost to MP3
Ogg is a container that both Vorbis and Opus use

>>60442478
Right, my mistake. But the general point still stands.

>>60442455
Because "OGG" and a stupid fish logo look stupid?

>>60439671
>replacing it with anything at all
FUCK OFF ALREADY
PATENT EXPIRATION MEANS MP3 IS NOW UNFETTERED
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SAY IT'S DEAD

>>60442424
Ever since iTunes became popular, most mobile players have included dedicated silicon to decode mp3 and AAC for precisely that reason.

>>60442378
If by "dead" you mean "more used than all other formats combined" then sure

>>60442515
But unless the "dedicated silicon" to decode MP3 is purposefully gimped, it will take more power to decode AAC anyway, just because the algorithm is more complex. Whether the decoding is done in pure software or hardware-accelerated is of very little concern. It's the eternal dichotomy of storage vs processing - either you save on storage and have to sacrifice more processing, or you save on processing and have to sacrifice more storage. It just doesn't make any sense for one lossy format to take significanlty less space in average with the same average quality than another with both requring the same computational (and indirectly power) effort.

>>60442592
Of course you're overlooking the possibility that one format could simply be less efficient.

>>60442514
It's shit

>>60442696
THE QUALITY HAS BEEN THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS
FUCK OFF RETARD

>>60442718
I never said the quality's gotten worse.

>>60442696
This.

>AAC indistinguishable from lossless at 256k
>MP3 indistinguishable from lossless... literally never.

What is the average equivalent of AAC vs MP3 bitrate? Is 190 kbps (0.53) AAC as good as 320 kbps MP3 and 125 kbps (0.40) AAC as good as 192 kbps MP3?

>>60442424
Can anyone confirm whether AAC decoding of similar quality is actually less power-efficient than MP3?

>>60442824
You can figure MP3 needs around 30% more bitrate for the same quality, excepting above V0 where MP3 basically plateaus whereas AAC continues to improve above 192k.

>>60442734
>Thinks he can tell the difference between v0 and lossless
I don't care what placebo "audiophile" headphones you have. If I present you 50 samples in v0 and FLAC you'd score about 50%

>>60442940
I'm pretty sure anyone can ABX this
https://a.uguu.se/GM8ORbSHKU4k_01Copy.flac
https://a.uguu.se/6tmQp35dYEES_01Copy.mp3

>>60441614
>OPUS which has been supported since Android 5.0.
Why are there only like 3 step players that actually see opus files?

>>60439671
MP3 isn't dead. Now it's more alive than it has ever been.

>>60443213
I haven't seen an MP3 in years.

>>60441614
>For storing phones on my phone

>>60440923
get >>>/out/

are you kidding me? every board has people on it who tell people to go to another board. it's a thing. has been for many years. kys if you don't get it, or just get >>>/out/

>>60443329
>>>/y/
>>>/lgbt/
Off you go, faggot

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>>60443339
i think you're confused. it looks like you've lost your way. maybe you should check >>>/out/ >>>/mlp/ my pseudo-equestrian homosexual friend, because that seems to be righhhht up your alley ;^)

>>60441005

hello mpaa

I'm glad that mp3 is now unencumbered. Its ubiquity was driven by being good enough and modern mp3 encodings are very high fidelity.

>>60443483
>modern mp3 encodings are very high fidelity.
Most people don't want high fidelity.
They want loud with plenty of bass. That's why most players and earphones sound like crap to the "educated" ear.
MP3 has always been unencumbered on the player side. The patents and licencing was always on the encoding side.

>oh wow, MP3 patents died and we don't have to pay to use it anymore
>TIME TO CHOOSE ANOTHER BULLSHIT TO PAY FOR
What in the fuck are companies thinking?

>>60443642
I know! I found a pair of apple earpods, so I cleaned them and had a listen. It's just shit with good bass!

>>60439671
Do ACC have some sort of IP rights management or whatever other built-in bullshit preventing me from using them?
>Opus
Sounds pompous.

>>60440977
this
it's fucking disgusting

>>60439671
>MP3 patents running out
>ITS DEAD GUYS
>STOP USING IT
>MOVE ONTO ANOTHER FORMAT WE HOLD PATENTS FOR
I totally don't see what you're doing there.

>>60443150
Fuck you. I enjoyed my ears.

>>60439671

>>No licenses or payments are required for a user to stream or distribute content in AAC format. This reason alone can make AAC a much more attractive format to distribute content than its predecessor MP3, particularly for streaming content (such as Internet radio) depending on the use case.

>>Opus

Literally what?

>>60442424
AAC(straight MDCT) is actually faster to decode than MP3(PQF filterbank + MDCT) because of its simple transform.

>>60444087

Apple used to implement FairPlay DRM in AAC metadata, but it was easy to remove, and they stopped using it years ago.

These days, iTunes music is DRM free, but the original purchase receipt is embedded into the metadata so if it turns up on filesharing sites, they can trace the origin to the original purchaser.

>>60444386

And most hardware these days can do it on-chip.
Fuck, Bluetooth 3.0+ controllers do it on hardware for A2DP audio streaming.

>>60443179
Stock nougat sees it okay, vanilla music too. Don't use proprietary software.

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>>60444760
>No tracks shown in Library
>0 tracks playing when pressing play all in file browser
Come on anon. Why'd you do this to me

>>60444258
The V0 is terrible, isn't it?

>>60439671
>mp3 is dead
No its not faggot
>hurr the creators killed it
no, they just lost complete control of it, fgt.

>durr new dominant standard ...
is mp3.
Why would aac - Initial release 1997; 20 years ago[1]

EVER replace something that is only 4 years older?


mp3 is about to get more popular than ever

>>60440977
Yea this, what the actual fuck?
Patent is expired, so now it's dead? If anything, it's more alive.

>>60441049
What music did you set?

>>60443227
I see mp3 everywhere.

Acc is open sores

>>60439671
AAC has already won because any software that people use today to play MP3s already can play AAC. Opus isn't as widely compatible.

Where does one find music in Opus?
>inb4 download flac and convert it yourself because Opus is literally who tier

>>60446204
Not even Bandcamp sells Opus.

>>60440977
I admit I'm retarded, but why would the music industry care if a format is proprietary or not? Because they can afford to encode with the format but laymen/musician can't?

>>60442592
this might not be the case, i dont know anything about AAC but they might have tried to reduce power consumption when decoding when designing the algorithm. its not as likely to have been a concern when mp3 was developed as everyone just had pcs.

>>60439671
>AAC patents aren't expiring for a long, long time
AAC is only 4 years newer than mp3, if mp3 patents just expired aren't AAC's going to in 4 years? That's not that long.

>>60445995
AAC has open implementations.* The standard is proprietary and has licensing fees attached.

>>60439671
>>not even a single mention of Opus
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP!! REEEE!!

>>60446578
Not necessarily, I know less for patents but just for copyrights they used to last less than 30 years now it's 110. Depends under what law the IP was secured. Also switching from proprietary to proprietary is bad habit, might as well go FOSS even if the other proprietary is expiring soon.

So I have to delete all my mp3 or will they just stop working on some date?