systemd exploit lets anyone access your files

Wow, it's a good thing nobody HAS to use systemd

>noobuntu

>>60432763
>Issue in AppArmour
>MUH SYSTEMD

>>60432763
>Real Unix systems like MacOS or *BSD
Sure they are Unix-like, but they will never be true UNIX in spirit, for they are warped and twisted creations by those who never understood the UNIX model and its simplifications.

>>60432763
this isnt systemd, its ubuntu
its not even related to systemd

What's systemd? I keep hearing about it on chat boards but none of my machines use it.

>>60432763
Poettering needs to fucking neck himself already. This man and his butt buddies just make poor design decision after poor design decision.

>>60432776
Fuck off. If you want to use GNOME, you must have it. If you install a distro that isn't Gentoo, Slack, or Devuan you'll get it by default and most people won't bother changing it.

>if a commercial airliner is unsafe, you're in luck because you can buy and fly your own plane!

>>60432763
>Ubuntu guest session logins
But I already disable this myself on every install.

>security flaw in login screen

That thing that runs 20seconds per year and only I have access to. Now that's a huge problem indeed, lel

>>60432849
>If you want to use GNOME
What kind of a retard would use GNOME?
>If you install a distro that isn't Gentoo, Slack, or Devuan
You forgot Void Linux.

>>60432776
You are not fooling anyone Red Hat shill.

GNOME requires systemd
KDE Plasma Wayland requires systemd
Firefox went pulseaudio only since version 52
etc etc

>>60432763
>systemd exploit lets anyone access your files
Wrong.
AppArmor is considered only *after* passing the standard Unix file permissions, so no one has access to your files unless you open them up to the world yourself.
Also, you have to physically access the machine to log in as guest. If an attacker has physical access, you are beyond fucked anyway.

literally, what's the alternative?

>>60432849
>>60432913
PCLinuxOS is probably the most popular systemd-less distro, it's a very good as a desktop daily driver and has a nice repo which covers most software needs.

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>tfw you literally cannot use Linux without relying on malware written by a Red Hat employee.

>>60432958
SysV init (crap), BSD init (BSDs and Slackware), OpenRC (Alpine, Gentoo/Funtoo, Manjaro), Runit, sinit.

>>60432958
The inits which existed before systemd haven't ceased to exist. You still have sysvinit, runit, openrc, and others. Just use whatever you would have used if systemd never existed, problem solved.

>>60432958
Just use bash as init. The bonus is that you'll have auto-login as root.

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>>60432763
>badly configured systemd+apparmor
>systemd exploit

>>60433184
Hahaha this always baffles me, systemd faggots trying blaming the user for their shitty code.

Just like Kay who tried to blame other Linux developer for his shitty systemd regression and then Linus called him out for his bullshit.

The anime image doesn't make you any less of a faggot btw.

>poorly configured AppArmor
>systemd exploit

Are anti-systemd people really this retarded?

>>60433250
>blaming AppArmor == blaming the user
Are you actually retarded?

>Ubuntu exclusive bug
>Not about systemd
>Already fixed thanks to community (a similar bug take 2 months to be patched on Windows)
>Need physical access so you are fucked anyway (if you ddid't crypt your files)

End of thread

>>60433254
>>60433278
Are you actually this desperate?

>>60432812
wtf I hate systemD shills now

>>60432763

Just use Devuan. It's Debian minus SystemD.

Will my system brake If my uninstall systemd?

>>60433336
yeah I've been using Devuan since they released their 1.0 and haven't had any problems

>>60433392
Is devuan testing as stable as stretch is now?

Don't use systemd

Don't use GNOME

Don't use GTK

Don't use GTK

Don't use Fedora.

Avoid Red Hat Winows-ization cancer.

>>60432763
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit
they implemented the guest session sloppily
it's not an actual systemd exploit

>>60432908
You autistics screeched about the exact same fucking thing in windows by replacing sticky keys
Lmao

how is this a systemd bug?

>>60433314
>systemD
and what about systemd?

>>60433278
>Blames the configuration of a program for his shitty code
>I am only blaming the software not the user!

My bad. I didn't knew systemd+apparmor magically configures itself, you stupid retard.

And here it is another systemd shill doing exactly the same thing.

>>60433678

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>>60432928
It can still be built with alsa on gentoo.

>>60433776
system8=========D

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wow, good think I use Void Linux :^)

>>60433663
GTK doesn't depend on systemd you inbred

>>60432822
aids for linux

>>60433850
> I didn't knew systemd+apparmor magically configures itself, you stupid retard.
Well, that's the thing, they don't. Programmer who wrote the guest session implementation did it wrong. Not a systemd fault.
> iptables -t filter -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
> I got an army of bots on me! Iptables have an exploit! Linux is finished and bankrupt!

>>60433352
Yes. 14.04 can live without it.

>>60433352
not if you properly configure a replacement like runit or upstart

should probably note however that removing the systemd meta package from ubuntu/debian/fedora will remove your entire desktop. Arch/Gentoo should be alright.

You'd be better off just getting Void/Alpine/*BSD or something else that doesnt ship with systemd

>>60432763
Linux and systemd are not mutually inclusive.

>>60432763
>What's next? a keylogger hidden in pulseaudio?
Do you mean HP+high quality drivers on Windows? Nice story.
https://www.modzero.ch/modlog/archives/2017/05/11/en_keylogger_in_hewlett-packard_audio_driver/index.html

>>60433957
Neither are ntoskrnl and windows

>>60433993
Okay?

>>60432763
>!remote_execution
Nice try

>>60432763
This has literally nothing to do with systemd, this is a bug in the apparmor profile for lightdm on ubuntu. Stop spreading misinformation.

>>60432763
The NSA must be really thankful with Harry Potter, thanks to his systemd cancer now being the de facto standard in all Linux they already must have doubled their list of Linux 0 day exploits.

>>60433984
All your Linux distros are full of nasty binary blobs like that.

>>60434102
Thanks for the proof. Oh wait...

>>60434068
>Factor by which NSA zero day exploits have been multiplied = 2
>Linux NSA zero day exploits = 0

>2 * 0 = 0

Wow, it's nothing!

>>60434121
Literally 99% of distros come with binary blobs in the form of software or drivers, how do you think your modern hardware works you stupid retard?

Thanks for the (you) faggot

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>>60434229
The delusion of Lunix fanboys never ceases to amaze me.

>>60434247
>use a Libre kernel
>no binary blobs

Wow

>>60434247
Still no proof, just FUD. Literal idiot.
>Thanks for the (you)
Great achievement for your kind.

>>60434288
>Not using Gentoo

>>60432812
systemd is the greatest shite they did to linux.
fuck off shill!

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>>60432763
>t. mactoddler

What does exactly systemd that a lot of user hate it so fucking much? the spy part or what?

>>60432928
>KDE Plasma Wayland requires systemd
No it doesn't, you fucking wanker.

>>60434393
It works too well with no configuration, this is suspicious to the autistbeards who are used to having to manually edit text config files to get basic functionality like automounting volumes and such.

>>60434297
Kernel is not the only thing that has those you illiterate faggot.

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>>60434288
>all linux desktop use gstreamer and chrome
You can be replaced with a bot.

Nobody gives a shit about apparmor its Ubuntu specific and the reason it isn't working correctly is because the Ubuntu devs haven't hacked in the support yet.

This isn't an exploit.

>>60434385
>>60434385
This is so wrong

Commit self poku or something

>>60434444
Just don't install any driver with a binary blob you dumb asshole.

>>60434546
Regular non-driver software can have blobs too you stupid prick.

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>>60432763
>not using Denuvain
Lmao

>MacOS or *BSD don't have this problem.
This, minus the mac part since Mac is just a bastardized BSD system.

>What's next? a keylogger hidden in pulseaudio?
kek

>>60432776
They do because 99% of your NSA-controlled CIA nigger distros use it.

>>60432763
Winbabbies are desperate after last week's ransomware, digging up old bugs and whatnot

>>60434566
>don't use the ones that do
>yea but some do
pottery.

>>60434546
You are even more retarded than this guy >>60434345

>>60432763
Just use a distro that hasn't got systemd. Duh.

>>60434475
Care to post actual arguments or is this just shitposting of the "BSD STRONG!!!!" kind?

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>>60432763
>t. mactoddler

NSA exploits on Linux is the computer equivalent of Big Foot

>>60432763
>lightdm
LMAO I use gdm, Fuck off

>>60434597
Shitposting is the best you can do.

>>60432763
Lennart shipping his own login screen with systemd when?

>>60432763
and systemd apologists still shill this shit

>>60433850
The end user isn't expected to setup MAC. It is the job of the distribution (and power users can just edit the profile to their choosing if they wish).
Hence Ubuntu is at fault.

>>60432928
>Firefox went pulseaudio only since version 52
What does PulseAudio have to do with SystemD?

>>60434385
OS X may be based on BSD, but it is certified UNIX.

>>60436895
>t. mactoddler

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>>60432763
>mfw runit

FRAU POETTERING
SHILLS ITT

>>60436782

frau poetter did it

redhat lied

linux died

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>>60432763
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

all i see is lightdm guest session being retarded as always. Is gdm3 affected at all?

>>60432763
>Real Unix systems like MacOS or *BSD don't have this problem.
Non of these are Unix systems.
BSD is unix-like.
macOS is UNIX.

Unix is a dead system from the 70s.

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>>60432849
>>60432928

>GNOME requires systemd
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/tree/master/srcpkgs/gnome

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>>60432763

Why does the german mind love over-engineering so much?

>>60437422
Just because there is a workaround that works with an incredibly outdated version doesn't mean that officially systemd is a hard dependency of GNOME.

I just treid to uninstall systemd on my distro and guess what? It wanted to remove GNOME too.

Fuck off already you fucking shill. who are you pretending to trick?

>>60437521
>incredibly outdated
(~)> xbps-query -R gnome
architecture: x86_64
build-date: 2017-05-10 12:10 CEST
filename-sha256: 492a4aaea6d39f0fcafb515dad192ec904d8d80890ed999780a868dc37bb750c
filename-size: 1684B
homepage: http://www.gnome.org
installed_size: 0B
license: GPL-2, LGPL-2
maintainer: Juan RP <[email protected]>
pkgver: gnome-3.24.1_1
repository: https://repo.voidlinux.eu/current
short_desc: The GNOME meta-package for Void Linux
source-revisions: gnome:bffe9c3639
(~)> ?????

stay salty archfag

>>60432763
>saving files in the same place as your os
>not loading your os from usb drive
>not using exclusively separate usb drives
>not running wangblows and unimportant memes and other garbage on your internal drives to throw off the NSA
ISHYGDDT

>he thinks macOS is any different
>implying Lennart and Kay didn't borrow a lot of their ideas from the source code Apple released for launchd
systemd is basically just a better version of launchd

>>60434393
Literally nothing. People just like to bitch.

>>60432763
>Ubuntu
Ucuntu? With that faggot penguin?

>>60432913
GNOME has improved a lot and is clearly the best DE by leaps and bounds. KDE is garbage and while I too use a tiling manager when I need to do certain types of work, there's nothing remotely close to GNOME in the ecosystem today.

>>60437422
Enjoy your broken functionality and shit security

>>60432763
eudev-git with runit does not have this problem

>>60432849
>>60432928
>>60434576
>don't get irony THIS much

>>60433090
openrc isn't an init
it relies on sysvinit

>2017
>not using openVMS
It's like you enjoy being anally raped.

>>60433678
>sloppily
sounds nasty
>moar?

>>60433090
>use sysvinit
No.

>>60432928
>Firefox went pulseaudio
it's an optional dependancy
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/53.0/system-requirements/

>>60432763
>exploit
It's not an exploit if it was intentional

>>60434385
>no open solaris or illumos

>>60441208
>it's an optional dependancy
Sure it's optional if you're fine with a completely mute experience, it's only optional in the sense that you can run firefox without it. But since they removed ALSA compatability you get no sound at all if you don't have pulseaudio installed.

mach kernel sissy : macos

>>60432763
what does tha thave to do with systemd

>>60441256
sure, playback just had gotten better thanks to ffmpeg but is still inferior to externals players which use your hw accl
search gist for mpv youtube-dl browsers

>>60441256
>muh alsa compatibility
ALSA must die.

>>60441273
>t. monolithic cuck

>>60441544
No it doesn't lennart.

>>60441587
>wanting a 80's solutions to a 10's problem
Do you use VAX workstations too?

>>60441566
im a girl so your argument is invalid

>>60441612
>I don't have a use for it, so lets just force everyone to use what was made by lennart who also made systemd.
Fuck off lennart.

>>60441627
>linux development should catter my special snowflake needs

>>60432958
Install Gentoo.

>>60441622
identifing as a grill does not make you one

>>60441622
You know the drill.

>>60441630
>I don't use it so it's special snowflake
Fuck off lennart.

>>60441630
>linux development should catter MY special snowflake needs

>>60441650
>I use a inefficient solution, so everyone has to use it too
MUH SYSVINIT
MUH MINIMALISM

>>60432763
>>60432849
>>60432928
>>60433049
>>60433250
>>60433304
>>60433336
>>60433392
>>60433663
>>60433850
>>60434068
>>60435836
Did you faggots even read the bug report? It literally has nothing to do with systemd and is just a misconfigured apparmor security profile for lightdm. I swear the hate for systemd on this board is so irrational that I sometimes wonder if M$ is paying people to shill against systemd to try and slow down GNU/Linux or something.

>>60432849
>using a DE

>>60441544
and replace it with what? OSS4?

>>60432763
>

Ow. Unfortunately I don't have any information on how to fix this since most of the work on guest sessions and systemd was done by Martin Pitt.

Nice fucking single-man dependency, fuckwits.

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>>60432763
Getting desperate, eh winfag?

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>>60441799
I use runit.

ITT we see how stupid /g/ actually is. 30 of 40 replies to OP didn't understand what the bug actually is or didn't bother to follow the link or simply decided to blindly believe the OP since it's a post throwing shit at systemd. Most of them won't even feel ashamed about the illiteracy or incompetence they just demonstrated.

>>60432763
>uses ubuntu
>uses pulsaudio
kys fag, the lord says
TEMPLEOS

>>60445194
terry only backdoors
GLOW-IN-THE-DARK CIA NIGERIANS

>>60441544
PulseAudio relies on ALSA as the backend.
Unless you are suggesting we move to the monstrosity that is OSS.

>>60432806
macOS is posix-certified you turboautist

>>60432763
Why would you still use Ubuntu, though?

>>60432763
>real unix systems
>FagOS
>>>/lgbt/

>he doesn't use fedora

>>60447173
>he uses fedora

>>60432763
Jokes on you, there is no poetteringware on my linux machines.

>>60432763

/G/ WAS RIGHT AGAIN

WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN

>>60441634
gentoo comes with systemd though?

>>60447830
You can choose either OpenRC or systemd but OpenRC is the traditional choice and what the distro's stage tarballs are built with.