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>>60350306
>when the OP posts in the wrong thread
>>60350320

Last time
>60350167

http://www.ebay.com/sme/refurbforless/Save-with-everyday-low-prices/so.html?_soffid=100&_sccid=175673&_soffType=SaleAndClearence&_seedid=272635263053&_trksid=p2047675.m3794


There is some sweet deals here guys. Though it is Ebay so.

>>60350383
These can't be real. Probably scams or a cluster of dead pixels.

>>60350382
Whoops I meant:
>>60350167

>>60350401
Freesync is a meme

Any news about Coffee Lake and Basin Falls?

When are they coming out?

>>60350426
Than what does that make g-sync?

>>60350455

an expensive meme

do you recommend me to buy ryzen 5 1600?

>>60350501
yes

>>60350426
Are memeing or no?

>>60350530
do you have it? i was living without desktop pc for many years and there's a chance i will afford it soon. i don't want it to be blunder pls

>>60350501
To do what?
If you have cash now and want something to last a fair few years, year can't really go wrong with that.

>>60350501
yes

>>60350533
No. it's legit worthless. Just marketing ploy

3200 cl16 vs 3000 cl15 for ryzen 1600?

>>60350306
Somehow I don't think that's what the word "toaster" means, OP.

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What do you think this would be worth?

i7 860
Radeon 7850
8GB
Old 150GB 10K Raptor
Audigy FX
Legit Win 7 Pro and Office
In a ThinkCentre case

I'm looking to sell off my old stuff and I have the CPU, mobo, video card, sound card, RAM, and a PSU, and I'm just wondering whether it would be better to part it out or to pick up one of these Thinkcentres for $25 to get a hard drive, case, and OS to finish off a build.

>>60350556
>>60350559
do you guys have ryzen 5 1600?

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>>60350383
really now

>>60349662
That makes no sense. The RX560 has 15% more CUs than the RX460 on top of higher clocks. IT can't only be 3% faster.

>>60349649
Why is it $67 for a $8 cooler?

>>60349747
Not sure. Maybe the RX560 really isn't that much better than an RX460. If that's the case, stick with the 1050Ti. Maybe wait 2 days and see if more reviews come by then.

>>60349846
The 1060 is worse, costs more, and Gsync costs more. I am disagreeing with your bitching about the RX570/580 being recommended over it.

>>60349882
Like ~6% better.
That's why the OP says unless the G4620 or i3-7100 is heavily discounted, doesn't it?

>>60350575

If you switched out the motherboard and CPU, you'd need to reinstall windows.

>>60350554
I don't have the R5 1600 but R7 1700 instead, which is the exact same thing (cache etc) but with two more cores and lower frequency
it's great, there's no doubt about it. Not sure where you think it could go wrong but there's no way it could. Or you could actually go wrong with an i5 and hit 85%+ CPU usage during gamings with spike to 95% - 100%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

>>60350562
The slightly higher latency 3200MHz CL16 has is definitely worth the performance boost the CPU will get from it

>>60350652
thank you for the reply and videos friend. i want a cpu that will serve me for a long time

>>60350680
Well, a CPU that performs as well / better than current ones and has much more headroom than even the best gaming CPU will definitely last you longer.
You can always overclock it in a few years to extend it's live further. 4GHz on all 6 cores or something.

>>60350704
i also wanted to ask if gtx 1060 is a rational choice if i would build my system this month. it performs very good on those videos. do you know the answer?

>>60350600
the free market is fixing that things shit price

whats the problem

>>60350728
It's a rational choice for 1080p indeed.

>>60350755
will it perform very bad with 1440p monitor if i'm not interested in very heavy aaa titles? for example - heavily modded stalker or fallout new vegas with hi res textures
sorry if too many questions

Is an R5 1600x and an RX580 decent for 1080p 60FPS for relatively recent games?

>>60350926
yes.

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Hey /pcbg/, the case I bought only came with 3 motherboard standoffs, but I heard that those bumps are there so you only need the standoffs for mATX motherboards. Mine is a regular ATX, a MSI B350 Tomahawk.

Can I just place the mobo, put on the screws, and call it a day? Or do I need the standoffs?

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what do you think of this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JrKwnn

my main use is probably 50/50 content creating (light video editing and some other non intensive stuff) and gaming

i live in the us

also i plan on adding a AIO cooler latter just so i can say my pc is water cooled

>>60351018
Should upgrade to an R5 1600, it's much much better and not very expensive.
Looks good otherwise.

Okay. Ryzen doesn't work for me, but it'd be great if it could.

There's no way I can get ahold of one of the mini ITX Ryzen compatible mobos that will fit on my Node 202 case

Should I just go back to the i5 plan? Because that doesn't require me to switch motherboards and fuck up the whole build (because i actually bought the case first so)

>>60351145
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JRPzK8/biostar-x370gtn-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-x370gtn
Like, there's no way to get ahold of this thing as far as I know

>it's a let's test the 2gb 1050 against the 4gb 560 episode

why

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https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/863107004625174528

Dotards?

>>60351145
I heard you gotta wait a month or two yet til the itx boards roll out.

There are some now but as you already know they disappear real quick

I would honestly wait if you are set on ryzen cus, if you are like me, you will regret buying something else if it isnt what you originally had your heart set on.

Id wait til you can get a hand on your itx board. Better than settling for an i5 in my opinion.

The moment you buy the i5 is the moment you see one of those itx boards available

>>60350647
That's not a problem. I have a Win 7 disk. I just need a COA.

what would you buy if you already have gtx 1060: single 1440p monitor or double 1080 monitors?
and what would you buy with rx 580?
'25 inches are too small for 1440p? 23.8 are too big for 1080p? please serious replies only, this stuff is tearing me apart

>>60351306
Eh, honestly, my previous computer was a shitty old i3 - if the performance is better, I'll be happy. I'll be blind to how better the Ryzen is based on not experiencing it, and that's okay. When the MicroITX AM4 board comes out in stock, I'll just make a new computer with those new parts. I've got money, so I don't really care for overspending in the future

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>>60351486
>I've got money, so I don't really care for overspending in the future
give me money!

>>60351018
drop that ssd asap and consider get rx 580 instead of 1060 unless you have a g-sync monitor already

>>60350383
is dis reel?

>>60351541
No it is my dollars ur anime wont take my money

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When is the replacement of the G4560 being released?

Will use the same socket?

I will roam across 2 houses so I want a chep yet capable itx build but I could wait sum months

>>60351018
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vHVVXH

here this is better and AIO cooling is for cucks

>>60351899
wait for ryzen 3/raven ridge

>>60352034
Will they release anything at the 50€ range that can beat that pentium in actual stuff?
Ryzen only have expensives cpus so far

>>60352062
>Ryzen
>expensive
Kek.
I mean if you don't mind waiting a month or two for R3, after all they did BTFO the i5s and make the i7 sheeps WOKE.

>>60352219
I don't mind, I will move in summer but I don't want to carry around this gigantic i5 with a gigantix 3 fans GPU inside around so watever I can build at the best bang for the buck the better
Is R3 thing using the same mobos?
itx is expensive as fuck on intel

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cheap mini-itx hackintosh

>>60351899
If there is a direct replacement at launch (and there might not be, seeing as how Cannon Lake is moving onto a 6-core die and has lower clock frequencies), then you might want to just buy the G4560 now and get it over with. The jump in performance between the G4560 with HT disabled and the G4400 is negligible. Cannon Lake will not add more cores to the Pentium line.

As far as I know, the i7 will be six-core with hyperthreading, the i5s will be a variety of 6 cores without HT and 4 cores with HT, and the i3s will be the 4 cores without HT with different amounts of L3 cache. It's very likely that there won't be a new die exclusively for the dual cores anymore and that the Pentiums/Celerons might not get an immediate replacement.

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>>60352284
>but I don't want to carry around this gigantic i5
>thinks CPU price relates to its physical size

>>60352293
>i3
its shit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MGBCcc
+ gtx 1060 or rx 570/580 depending on the price and aviliability in my shithole
any opinion?

>>60352341
Nox i5, a case so fucking big as a cosmos, retard

>>60352293
Drop the i3 and get a pentium.

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I have a GTX 980ti classified. The displayport on it is starting to flake out on me. (PC randomly doesn't wake the screen, sometimes have to switch input device on the monitor for the PC to stop showing black screen on boot.) I have a warranty on said card from Microcenter. Since I bought this card at launch, its worth $710, I have that much in store credit. I was considering 2 options.

1). Return the 980ti, buy a 1080ti in its place. Microcenter only carries the Founders Edition and they all start at $750. It would cost me $110-ish out of pocket for the card and warranty

2). Buy the Asus Strix RX-580 8GB + warranty -$290
New case for my server - $120
2 more 4TB hard drives for said server -$220 ($110each)
Another 500GB SSD - $180
Some misc shit like more compressed air cans and a few 64GB Microcenter branded USB-3.0 sticks.

I play on a 32" 1440p 60hz panel. I play mostly dark souls 3 and sometimes normie shit with my friends like Call of Duty Zombies. Im only looking to get 60fps (v-sync). Would the 580 be able to manage that? If it matters, the rest of my system is to give you an idea of what I'm working with
>r7-1700X 3.6ghz all 16 threads
>Asus ROG X370 motherboard
>4x8GB ddr4-2400mhz CL13
>Seasonic Prime Titanium certified 650w
>3 Samsung SSDs (840/850 series) and 1 960 Evo m.2 drive.

>>60352364
Nox is the name of the case, the i5 has nothing to do with the size, that's just the name of the processor inside.
You're asking about CPUs. Whatever CPU is in your computer has 0 correlation to its physical size. Next time, think before you talk.

>>60350652
Holy shit at the CPU usages, is this normal on the AMD side?
I mean it's impressive it's hitting the same performances with half of CPU, but..

>>60352351
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCmwnn

here, i completed it

>>60352422
NOX IS THE BRAND
I5 THE MODEL
I HAVE A FUCKING A10 INSIDE IT
RETARD

>>60352375
r7 1700x and 580 should do 60fps in cawdooty

>>60352441
appreciated, but this 960 evo is very pricey in my shithole so i will go with a cheaper option. and rx 580 still didn't even land stil on the shelves. but let me ask you if that HDD is better than my choice?

>>60352442
>he has bulldozer
lol

>>60352440
no amd has less usage because muh cores, go for ryzen

>>60352442
Keep crying, you tech illiterate moron. You sound like an angry Trump voter, and you probably are. How's that voter's remorse doing you? Seek help before you make another mistake.

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>>60350926
RX570 4GB is really all you need.
Get a good one like the Red Devil, overclock it. Only some garbage optimized games that don't even look good like GR Wildlands won't get 60 on it.

RX580 8GB is more of a 1440p card, though you'll have to turn settings down for some similar games too.
1600X will do 144+ as long a game just isn't engine limited lower.

>>60351284
wow I gained 1000 mmr with my reizen

>>60351486
why settle for "it's better so it's okay" when it's bad value

>>60352062
There should be 2c/4t Raven Ridge, so maybe. Maybe not quite that cheap, but something that's a slightly better CPU (since you can overclock to 4GHz, and SMT > HT), and over twice as good iGPU, for slightly more.

>>60352490
I don't think you need a 960 evo.

>>60352501
>Trump voter, and you probably are.
>I literally posted a screenshot in german
>Seek help before you make another mistake.

>>60352490
nigger its 25$ more, and yes that hdd is by a good margin the fastest 2tb hard drive, toshiba hard drives are for contrarian fedora tippers and are quite old now

>>60352365
>>60352349
g4600 instead?

>>60352499
>no amd has less usage because muh cores, go for ryzen
I bought the 1600 today already, I'm just legit surprised at the breathing room the CPU have during gaming, it's a great plus for me, but I was also wondering what would happens if the cpus were maxed.

>>60352501
>hillary cucks are intel users
damn who would have guessed

>>60352502
"muh bad value"
Literally because it's fucking inaccessible to get the thing you'd probably be suggesting, ie the goddamn Ryzen
It's just fucking impossible to actually obtain it right now and I don't want to be stuck with an i3 for another fucking month

>>60352524
You're moving goalposts. Try to make sense next time, Trumptard. Deflecting and pretending to be a foreign national won't fool anyone.

>>60352534
/g/ always says that Seagate hdd's are horrible and unreliable. also Toshiba P300 is somewhat a new model

>>60352541
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117743

Get this.

>>60352560
Why are you so mad about that guy ruling your shithole country

>>60352555
I don't care I just want you to practice the art of Zen.
Learn to wait.
Become the wait.
Experience tranquility in waiting.

>>60352541
that or wait on ryzen 3/raven ridge (the smarter option)

>>60352546
framedrops/shit minimums this is why intels non-extreme editions have this problem i notice it even on my 4790k, i cant wait for 7nm ryzen

>>60352605
Ryzen 3/Raven Ridge wont be a good option for hackintosh.

what's the best 1050ti ?

>>60352605
>ryzen 3/raven ridge

What will be the fucking price of that?

Since the 4460 have a igpu able to play 4k video and some games for 60€ and I'm sure it will have better perfomance than any aymd shit anyways

>>60352570
/g/ is full of shills, ive had a older 2tb seagate and 2 3 tb seagate drives, none of my seagate drives have ever failed

>>60352585
>>60352560
i think the word for this cuck is verruckt

>>60352541
>>60352365
>>60352349
actually looks like the pentium G processors only work in a hackintosh with a dedicated gpu, I need to use the onboard.

>>60352596
only people waiting right now are the intel cucks

>>60352647
well ryzen 3 will be $150 and below, no idea about raven ridge, prob comparable

>>60352670
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q1-2017/

>>60352709
Useless crap, then

>>60352647
amd's APUs are miles ahead of intel's igpu.

also r3 has to be competitively priced with pentium/i3 since no one is going to buy them otherwise.

>>60352693
they have integrated graphics, but still id get a weak gpu like a 560 or something

>>60352733
>r3 has to be competitively priced with pentium/i3 since no one is going to buy them otherwise.

AMD have enough fanboys to buy overpriced shit

>>60352716
>https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q1-2017/
>4tb
you aren't getting a 4tb

>>60352502
>RX570 4GB is really all you need.
Why do some spaces online like to recommend getting a 470 and OC'ing it when someone mentions they're eyeing a 570? Are they just idiots or is there some merit to it? Because benchmarks I've seen show the 570 doing just as good as a 480 8GB.

>>60352752
But AMD is cheaper than everyone anon.

Did you mean to type Intel?

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>>60352752
>amd
>overpriced
INTEL SHILL ALERT

>>60352778
470/570 are the same gpu

just get a 570 then you wont need to worry about the silicon lottery

>>60352737
no need to play games on this, and I'm using a tiny case that won't hold any kind of pcie card. I have a similar haswell build and the integrated graphics work great.

>>60352789
Where is the ryzen version of the 60€ pentium?

>>60352647
You have to understand that a few years ago, a $125 AMD APU was better for integrated graphics than a $350 Intel CPU. That was 32nm compared to 22nm.

This is why people say to wait. AMD integrated graphics are so massively better. Before they were hindered by being on a much larger manufacturing process, and inferior CPU architecture. With Raven Ridge, they'll just be plain so much better.

>>60352709
Na I think the higher priced ones will be more. 4c/8t with 11 Vega CUs..?

>>60352778
Because some people don't want to believe that process refinement is a real thing. They think the RX570 is merely an overclocked RX470 so you can just overclock the RX470. An RX470 overclocked the same(if it will) is going to use more power. It's also not like they're much cheaper.
I also don't believe there are many true 8pin power connector RX470s like the RX570 Red Devil. Yes, some RX470s have 8 pins, but only 6 deliver power.

>>60352830
>he thinks intel integrated is acceptable by any metric
wew

>>60352870
STFU INTEL SHILL

>>60352870
3rd quarter ryzen 3

>>60352884
again it's not for playing games, the integrated graphics are totally fine.

>>60352898
So it does not exist

>>60352915
Nice mental gymnastics.

>>60352878
And yet they was useless since they was too shit to act as a GPU and their cpu was a fucking failure

My fucking m2 APU can't even play 10b full HD videos

>>60352935
>you have no price
>you have no proof of perfomance
>you have nothing
>STFU YOU LE INTEL SHILL AYMD WINZ THE STUFF XD

>>60352975
Don't forget the
>YOU CAN PLAY 720P LOW SETTINGS 25-30 SMOOTH FPS AMD IS THE BEST

>>60352975
>31 posters
>110 replies

I estimate that around 80% of those replies are yours.

>>60352935
He's correct. It currently does not exist. Stop arguing over something so stupid.

t. someone that also said impatientfag should wait.

>>60352952
You can't say AMD APUs were shit and defend Intel's. It's all relative.
The A12-9800k has 2.5x the iGPU performance of the G4560, and it can be overclocked further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGuFVc8AFXk

It's pretty much a fucking Xbone One on a single chip, and Raven Ridge will be far better.

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>>60352975
>FUCK YOU I HAVE MY $50 STUTTERMONSTER PENTIUM

Please help me.

I have i7700k and ultrawide monitor (60hz with freesync only).

Should I buy 1070? Is there better options?..

>>60353012
>Is there better options?..
vega since you are a freesync
But that's not being released until June most likely.

>>60353012
u MUST buy amd gpu if you have freesync monitor man you wont regret it!!!
Just wait for [VEGA]

>>60352808
>>60352878
Thanks for the info, it was enlightening. And I can see what you're saying about some not believing in process refinement.

>>60352990
>>60352975
samefag

>>60353034
>>60353037
I live in third world and it's really problematic to find AMD products here, especially new ones. (but that's my problem) Thanks.

>>60353132
Holy shit fucking stop shitting up this thread.

>>60353188
just report him

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>>60353132
>projection

>>60353180
maybe thats why poo in the loos shill intel

>>60350399
I just want to say that it's totally possible for refurbs to be super cheap no matter what the product, but it's normally some kind of contract people actually have with the company. When people have the contract they either pay a fixed amount for X many items or, more likely, they're like a sub-outlet for the parent company and a percentage of sales go to the parent company. All the products are, are returns from customers and it isn't worth the parent company's time to fix them and reship them, but not selling them on some way is literally throwing them away.
The sub-company just ships them as is and, if there are problems, it's worth their time to actually refurb returns properly because the amount of bogus returns is actually pretty high (for all sorts of reasons) and if they don't send you one they have refurbed they pick another out of the ones they've gotten in.
The real beauty of it is the contract though. It's because of the contract and your being a sub-outlet of the parent company that you're legally allowed to offer the products as "manufacturer refurbished" because it sounds a lot better than "refurbed by Jed and his power tools in the spare bedroom", but in reality the closest it came to actually being refurbed by the manufacturer was when they put it immediately into their "ship to sub-outlet" folder.
Obviously it depends on the product and the manufacturer, like when Sony were sending out refurbed PS3s and swearing they were brand new, it was worth their time to do that and not outsource the job for less $$$.

tl;dr it's totally plausible, but you're probably right

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>>60351045
>>60351664
>>60351999
all right hows this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3BZN7h

>>60353616
i want to use a Samsung CF591 Series Curved 27-Inch FHD Monitor

fucking 4chan wont let me post the amazon link

>>60353616
looks good to me

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>>60350306
Thoughts on the Corsair M65?

For RX 500 cards, ASUS ROG STRIX or MSI Armor? Both variations are similar in price within my budget in a local mom and pop store. Deciding specifically between a 570 4GB or 580 4GB ($30 more).

>>60353760
yes

I've never built a computer before and wanted a mini ITX, pls be gentle

>Intel i5 7600
>Gigabyte GTX 1070
>MSI B250i Gaming Pro
>EVGA G2 550W 80+ Gold
>Ballistix Sport LT 16GB
>Intel SSD6 512GB M.2

I'll get an HDD later

>>60353812
nvme is overkill, at this point it's so fast that the loading times aren't the bottleneck. Unless you're doing heavy content creations.

poor anons forced to go i5 because the only mITX ryzen mobo is out of stock ;_;

>>60353616
>>60353686
imo you should forget about the curved meme and look for 1440p 27" display with freesync

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Can anyone tell me why downloading a game from Microsoft store I can get 17-18 mb/s yet downloading a game from steam the most I can get is 2mbs?

Is there a setting I have to change?

>>60354082
use another server for steam
try zimbabwe or rwanda. any nigger african country will do.

>>60353812
Are you basing it off someone else's build? Cuz I did that too and our builds are identical except for CPU ver is 6500

>>60354125
i'm not joking btw
i personally use south africa most of the time

>>60354011
whats wrong with the curved jew?

How's this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wCFvFd

haven't built a pc in 10yrs so i'm mostly concerned about all the parts being compatible. money isn't really an issue but i will mostly use it for some gaming (blizzard games,ffxiv) and just regular pc use. Any suggestions on monitors?

>>60354125

Damn for real, is it because first world countries servers are maxed out or something?

Also how do I go about doing that, is it just a feature in the settings?

>>60354420
>$1400 for 4 threads
how can you be this dumb

>>60354598
like i said it's been a while. maybe tell me what i could improve instead of slinging shit.

>>60354420
garbage

here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwmwnn

this is a way WAY better build for less

>>60354653
maybe you deserve it for not reading the OP

>>60354838
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwmwnn
Drop the HDD and get a 500GB SSD instead. Then it's good.

>>60354838
thanks anon

>>60354980
fair enough

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I'm planning to build a Hackintosh. Besides the G4560 and 7700k, what is the best value considering I have to get Intel?

>>60355524
Those are the only 2 Intel CPUs worth getting besides a used Xeon.

Is this a good i7-7700 build?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yKG9LD

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When's AGESA?

RX 560s NOW FOR SALE FELLOW STALK....

Aaand they're already on backorder...


www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137124&cm_re=rx_560-_-14-137-124-_-Product

>>60355956
Ehhh it generally makes sense to get the cheapest Z270 board for the faster RAM support, and get DDR4 3000 or so. It has a big effect in demanding games, more so than overclocking would give.
And 120GB SSD is so small. I'd recommend at least 500.

>>60356094
I can't find reviews besides the Gamer's Nexus one.

is their anything dangerous about buying a used psu

is this good? i want to do a budget minded build

https://nh.craigslist.org/sop/6081952662.html

>>60354980
>no mass storage
gay

>>60356094
And rx, 560 is shit, can't even beat gtx 1050

>>60357406
yes it can dumbass its more or less on par with a 1050ti

>>60357623
Not according to gamers nexus benchmarks. It can only compete in Vulcan games.

>>60357641
In DX12/Vulkan, AZDO like RE7, and so on, it does seem to match/beat the 1050Ti.
And it's cheaper. And Freesync is cheaper.
But if you play 1050Ti favored games, and you can lower settings so it stays over 60fps for your 60hz monitor without any frame syncing tech, then yeah get the 1050Ti if you find one cheap.

I'd rather have a GPU good a new games than old games that are less demanding and will run fine anyway.

>>60357845
Looking for a cheap card that can run pubg... Don't think rx 560 can do it. Gtx 1050 only got 2gb vram, but it's cheaper, and most likely performs better.

>>60357641
Gayfaggot niggers didnt even benchmark it you stupid shill

>>60357955
ya for that game, that might be the case. I imagine some youtuber will do a comparison of them on that game but major tech sites won't. It's not a good benchmark game.

>>60356094
I paid less for a 470

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alright, i have a 350 dollar budget, im wondering what parts would better improve my computer for gayming, any help is appreciated

>>60358075
sell 4460, get a 4790, and an RX570 4GB.
Might require a microcenter near by to get a 4790 for under $300. Though maybe you can get one used for around that or less. And I assume you can get close to $100 for the 4460.

>>60358075
graphics card

>>60358075
Get yourself a graphics card....

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLTQnn ive been taking suggestions and playing around with this build for a while now.
anything look wrong? Im opting for a smaller ssd since i already have a hdd.

>>60358075
dude honestly that whole build looks pretty shit.

Save up 60$ more and build a g4560 + 1050ti meme machine

>>60358075
get a 580

>>60358479
>downgrading the cpu
>getting anything nvidia below a 1080
top cuck

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>>60358725
>he hasn't been converted to the church of the holy pentium

May you be touched by his dual core quad-threaded embrace

>>60358381
All your most frequently used programs and games all fit on that 128GB?

>>60358788
>dual core
>2017
C U C K
U
C
K

>>60358893
>buying into the core meme

I bet you own the fx6300

>>60358912
of course i do. some of us megatask here. ill be holding on this too one until THREADRIPPER arrives. sorry cant stay and chat got some real work to get done on my tri monitor setup

>>60358912
no i own a 4790k

Seagate Barracuda HDDs that are NOT 4TB are the good ones right?

>>60357295
bump

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>AVEXIR RAM

good or meme?

Is it possible to have windows 7 with Ryzen? or do I have to upgrade to windows 10? and if you can keep windows 7 is it even worth the hassle?

>>60360479
3tb is still best seagate

these any good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RKX2FT/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8gb-nitro-oc-video-card-11260-01-20g

>>60361051
>year 2^11-31
>not running linux and a windows vm

someone bullied me for getting a higher end PSU, so i went with a mid end one, now I'm noticing a buzzing coming from it.
should i return and get a higher end or what? it's a evga supernova nex650g g1

>>60360881
the plasma makes it go faster

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>>60358957
tfw got 8320 and only duomonitor

>>60358479
>>60358788
Honestly, is there any reason not to do this? I posted in the other thread about building a computer that could run EVE, Discord, and Mumble.
Someone suggested R1500x and RX 570, but the final build ended up being way out of my price range.

So if I have a R5 1600 is a 1070 not worth it over 580 now? Should I just go for a cheap 1080?

>>60350306
why do reviewers compare the rx 560 4gb to the gtx 1050 2gb? Seems retarted considering that there is a 4gb 1050 available.

>>60362058
There's a GDDR5x 1060. Doesn't mean it's actually faster.

>>60361051
There;s a work around on github to get the latest, latest updates on Win 7.
Ryzen works fine on win 7 without them.

>>60361051
I wonder if I have to do some magic to install windows 7 on a ryzen system. I really really don't want to use win 10 even if it's just for games.

My build will have a dvd player so I assume I can just install it from the dvd. There are some issues you can work around though if you want to install it via usb afaik.

>desktop won't turn on one morning
>switch power cables with backup PSU, nothing
I suspect it's the case's power switch because the parts are practically new, but I got nothing. Any suggestions?

>>60363046
is it plugged in?

Is a 1080 a dumb pairing with a 2560*1080p monitor? Its a 75Hz model. Go for the RX580 or 1070?

>>60363119
Of course. Basically the only difference with the last time I used it is that I turned the multi-socket adaptator on & off in between. That one's not dead; the screen is powered.

i have a 6 year old pc, i5 2500k oc to 4.5 with an old hd 6870 card. i want to throw a new graphic card in there and was looking at the aorus xtr 580 8gb.

will this card be alright with my cpu, or would a 1060 be better? and will my power supply be enough? it's an evga supernova 550 g2.

I just compared the rx 550 to the rx 560. Seems like a nobrainer to get the r560 considering that it has double the shader units while only being 30 euros more expensive.

Bought the G4560 and RX 570 4GB.

How much did I mess up? Will I be able to achieve 60fps at 1080p without games looking like shit?

Few questions regarding PC build.
If I play on streaming, is it better to go with a Ryzen 1700 rather than 1600?
If yes, I have prety much my whole build finalized but I can't decide on MOBO + RAM combo.
I am either going for a B350 one or the cheapest X370 because of budget constraints.
But I don't know how to do with the RAM speeds. Should I just buy 3200Mhz and a MOBO with good features and then hope that eventually the RAM will work on full speed?

>>60364576
Just play your game to find out yourself.

I need a new monitor.
I have a GTX 1080.
I wanted a 1440p 144Hz ips monitor with G sync, but they're just too expensive.
Should I go for 1080p 144Hz or 1440p 60Hz?

>>60364682
Depending on your game.
1080p@144hz for FPS and esport (LOL, DOTA, etc)
1440p@60hz for the rest.

>>60364713
I play both.

Anyone talking about the intel i9?

>>60364729
its your choice man, i have a 1440 60hz and i clocked it to 85. works good for everything that i play (gtav, overwatch, witcher 3, watchdogs 2)

>>60364772
what monitor do you have and how to overclock monitors? can it burn after overclocking?

>>60364746

Other than theu sual shitposting on /g/? No. Outside of a few niche use cases it doesn't excite anyone because of the upcoming release of Naples and its higher core count brethren which is (seemingly) is going to set the bar for Intel to beat. Those i9's are going to be nuclear reactors at any real clocks (zen's power effeciency is quite formidable) and a lot of the leaks for i9 chips show hilariously meh amounts of I/O.

>>60362058
Because that's what it's closest competitor is... But unfortunately it can't really even compete with it. It's a shit card, practically not managing taking any market.

Best case?

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Need a microATX case with dust filter that has a small cubic form but still big enough for this thing to fit easily out of the box, and can somewhat hold the noise inside, 80 €$ max, any leads?

what would you buy: a single '25 1440p monitor or two '23.8 1080p monitors?

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anyone use a b350 msi board with EZ LED debug? my gpu light it constantly on and people say it's because ryzen 5 doesn't have a igpu.

??

>>60350306
I am planning to buy a 1600 in a few weeks. What's the best cheap B350 motherboard if ever I want to hit stable 2933/3000+ Mhz with a Trident Z kit? I don't need fancy features and RGB lighting. Also I don't plan to crossfire so one PCI-e will be plenty.

>>60365403
B350

>>60365424
You lost me.

>>60365424
sorry, some Asus boards offer greater overclocking potential and have a lot more options. My MSI board allows for core ratio and voltage clocking but nothing else.

My memory only POSTS with 2400mhz despite having a 3000mhz kit, but that was my fault for not buying the samsung e-die. I'm sure it'll work with a trident kit.

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What a shame

hi /pcbg, did i fuck up with my PSU chice?
>1070, ryzen5 1600
>VS 550
I build pc few days ago and noticed coil whine, but it was very quiet. Now if i run something like gtaV the whine goes into overdrive, also the sometimes the whole PC crashes. I get faulty_hardware_error. So could this be faulty or too weak PSU? Should i put 650w in?

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So I'm looking to get a new CPU + Mobo + case. (because Im a fucking idiot who spilled shit on my motherboard and fried it, I wanted to start building a new PC anyways)

I have a ~400$ budget and it looks like getting a RYZEN 5 1600 for 220$ would be the most efficient for its cost as far as im reading from you guys.

Im just looking for recommendations for the mobo + case.
Would this mobo suffice? Or can someone recommend better?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144018

Some of the reviews said it came DOA so im unsure, and am I missing anything from shelling out more money for a motherboard?

And Ill be using this old 850w power supply (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817517003) with a Geforce 560TI until I can afford a GPU.
Will they be compatible with the new mobo?

And can someone recommend me a case in the ~50$ range?
Any advice is greatly appreciated, I haven't really built a PC before so i dont want to fuck this up.

Going to upgrade my computer soon because I have to. It just stopped coming on one day, no POST or beeps, but lights and fans. Replaced the power supply and a couple weeks later I've got the same problem so I guess I'll just get a new mobo/cpu.

Got a i7 4790k and gigabyte udh5 z97 mobo.

I'd like to not spend more than $500 on these, not including memory. What's the current hot combo?

>>60365478
550 is enough for a 1070, even if you overclock. It could be the actual unit and not it's power rating

>>60365478
It's just a bum unit.
I've been running an OC 770 and OC 2500K on 550watt for years. That's got to be at least 100watts higher than what you've got.

>>60350306
>Removing logical increments from the op
Looks like Reddit got a hold of this general

>>60365801
t. logical increments owner

>>60365801
I wish logical increment had a bigger selection for each tiers, as is, it barely helps me.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLmXBP

Do you guys think I should ditch the Hard Drive and get an SSD? Also all in all, what do you guys think of the build?

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>>60365852
>>60365801
why would you use that garbage site?

>>60365829
Fuck you falcon is /ourguy/

>>60365522
>>60365782
thanks, ill probably give it one more week and replace it if it will be too annoying

>>60365899
oh boi
1. ditch the cooler or at least don't go for the liquid cooling meme
2. msi tomahawk is a better pick
3. faster memory (3000mhz+) and 2x4gb
4. seagate/toshiba hdd if anything
5. you can get better quality psu (seasonic or corsair)
6. pirate the windows or get a cheap key from ebay. you're only giving your money to the botnet. you can get a nice ssd instead

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Does this mean I can get anything above 2133MHz or am I limited to only this frequency? Pic related is for a mini-ITX motherboard.

>>60366005
you can get any memory but it'll work only on 2133mhz

>>60366022
oooh makes sense thanks anon

>>60364626
>>60364626
Pls respond.

any reason to buy rx 580 if i don't want a housefire? is gtx 1060 still a decen option? this is for 1440p resolution and benchmarks say both are pretty good

>>60365966
Thanks man, this is why I posted here. First time ever trying to build my own pc. Glad that I didn't really need the cooler and that I don't have to spend more money than I needed to on Windows

>>60364626
>>60366114
both are going to do fine with streaming. if you can spend the extra money go with r7 1700.

there's usually no reason to buy x370 unless you want to crossfire or some shit. just pick a b350 mobo (msi, asrock) and then pick ram from their QVL to be sure that it will work.

>>60366135
on average rx580 outperforms gtx1060, has more vram and supports freesync. also it's not even a housefire, true that it's more power hungry on 100% usage, but that's not worth downgrading to the gtx1060.

>>60366206
thank you for the reply, but does amd still has driver issues with their gpus?

>>60366241
no.

if anything amd's drivers are currently better than nvidia's

>>60366258
thank again for helping me to decide! i will go for sapphire rx 580 nitro soon

>>60366258
>amd's drivers are currently better than nvidia's
Their DX12 and vulcan ones are.
DX11 are still bum.

>"""micro"""ATX case that's a 40cm cube
What the fuck

>>60366449
Link?

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rVk2LD
Will this run Overwatch 1080p at 120+fps?
Please rate and criticize.

>>60366490
This one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QMp323/thermaltake-case-ca1d500s1wn00
I'm pretty disappoint.
Back to 0 in my mATX case search.

>>60366585
Micro ATX isn't actually very small.
Mini ITX is smallest motherboard form factor.

>>60366505
To pull off 120fps you'll need a stronger gpu

>>60366505
On high or medium maybe.

>>60365966
>meme

As I overclock the shit out of my i7 and hit 55* with an h115i, I laugh at you.

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>>60366709

>55c
>on half the cores

Meanwhile, in the real world using air cooling.

>>60366723

Okay it's either a housefire or a corelet, which meme are we going with today.

>>60366781

Its both if using water (lol AIO) and half the cores runs hotter compared to the 1700 in that pic which has 1.387v pumping through it.

>>60366968
Go fuck yourself. I'm at 4.6 and I never crack 60.

>>60367090

>on half the cores

>>>/v/376795295

Why is /v/ so much more knowledgeable than everyone ITT?

>>60367166

Oh ha ha ha. It's still a powerhouse of a cpu asshole

tv adaptor, worth it and how to use on windows?

>>60354427
>is it because first world countries servers are maxed out or something?
yes
>>60354427
>Also how do I go about doing that, is it just a feature in the settings?
also yes

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The EVGA 1070 GTX has been going up and down from 340ish to 400 USD on Amazon in the last 4 days, what's up with that?

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>buy 1080 gaming x last week
>RMA for coil whine, they accept it and issue a new one to deliver "tommorow"
>get nothing because "manufacturer is out of stock"
Now I have to call and drop my spaghetti to get me moneys back, cause apparently replacing it with gaming X+ that costs $3 more is impossible

>>60368627
or just ask if they upgrade to a 1080ti for $20

>>60368662
they're making a big deal out of $3, I just prefer to get my money back at this point

>>60368731
you offered to pay the $3? ooc whos the manugacturer your arguing with? just so i know to steer clear

>>60368744
I was RMAing through local shop because it was supposed to be "express replacement within 3 days of purchase"

>>60368803
oh, then its the shop that has to replace it under consumer law since your contract is with the shop, not the manufacturer

My build, bought in 2012, added a SSD, custom CPU cooler and GTX 970 instead of AMD Radeon HD 6870

>CPU: I5 3570K OC'd to 4 GHz or 4.2 I think, don't remember
>MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H
>RAM: DIMM 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600MHZ KINGSTON HYPERX GENESIS GREY DUAL CL9 KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX
>HDD: WD Blue 1 TB
>SSD: Samsung Evo 256 GB
>GPU: MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G
>PSU: OCZ MODXSTREAM PRO 600W

What (if anything) should I change in the nearest future?
What do you think about my build, anons?

How do I into alt codes with a tkl keyboard?

If sound cards are a meme, what does /g/ recommend as a value for money ~50$ option for improved sound quality and volume for 150$-tier headphones at less than 80ohm and possibly adding a 100$-tier mic in the future? I heard from alot of anons that regardless of the onboard sound card that generally a usb alternative is always better due to the noise generated from all the things going on on the mobo.

>>60369549
you'd get better luck asking this in whatever audiophile general there is (/hpg/, etc) or make a new thread for it

>>60350306
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zk9VXH

> Bulgaria
> Content Creation
> not much gaming
> first time builder
> no overclocking or dual GPUs

I already have the CPU and GPU. Thinking of getting a mobo next (b350), but I don't know which maker would be best. Considering my GPU is MSI, would I gain anything from getting an MSI B350 board?

Also, should B350m's be considered?

I am sort of on a budget but I'm not holding back on the RAM or PSU, so the few places where I can cut back a little are the motherboard and case.

TLDR: reccommend me a B350 board.

My 1080 is here

Should I uninstall my AMD software/drivers first before I try to put this nigga in?

Please no bully, I was a loyal AMD consumer for years

>>60369549
There was a thread about this yesterday but no good advice at all, and hpg generally recommends expensive dacs/amps that are really minimal improvements for alot of money...
I thought some anon would have made a standard setup on his build that includes something like what i'm trying to do.

>>60369664
Get either an asrock or an asus one. Out of all the mobos those 2 manufacturers weren't mentioned to be having issues on past pcbg threads. Generally the more expansive gigabyte/msi options are fine too but considering you're going value for money i'd say pickup any micro atx b350 by asrock or asus just check their memory qvl's to make sure your memory is supported at high overclocked speeds but keep in mind even if it isn't it is just a matter of a few bios updated for it to be.
It doesn't matter at all having same manufacturers on your mobo/gpu. Also 750watt is overkill, you're probably thinking that it is a good investment under the assumption that pcs in the future would consume more watts but that isn't the case quite the opposite really. Also i'm very certain that this particular ram isn't supported by any motherboard at the moment at that speed.

>>60369664
Also if you don't plan to use this build for very heavily multithreaded apps and heavy multitasking or vm use you should really consider dropping down to r5 1600 which is the best value for money option and with the money you save going up to an rx 580 8gb gpu if you care about gaming. Otherwise you're good.

>>60351004
This is bait right?

>>60369535
please respond

>>60369690
yes
only graphic drivers though. If you have an amd cpu, don't uninstall the rest.
Use DDU for it

>no prefix is larger than micro is larger than mini
Who the fuck decided to break ISO prefix standards with motherboards?

>>60369803

This is what I don't get about the AMD hype
1. No ITX boards
2. Driver issues
3. Lack of solid compatibility with certain companies

Besides the countless graphs that show a lack of "stuttering" and a 5% performance gain compared to 4c/4t Intel chips, it seems like the Ryzen chips are more of are hassle than they're worth.

After browsing /pcbg/ for the past few months it seems like (no troll) the 6700k is the best processor in terms of performance per dollar and ease of installation/compatibility/use, even compared to the 7700k and its thermal issues.

So, someone please show me the light with Ryzen chips. Are they worth the hype or is it more that people just don't want to buy Intel?

>>60369803
thanks, I was leaning towards MSI/ASRock anyway.

The ram and psu were in a build I found on logicalincrements for a workstation PC, so I thought it was proven to all work together?
This is the build:
http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/02/building-with-ryzen-1700/

I am basing most of my choices off of that build actually. Hence, why I chose a 750w PSU.

>>60370000
>This is what I don't get about the AMD hype
Then you're retarded, the three disadvantages you listed are far outweighted by the advantages of going AMD, at the time being
>1. No ITX boards
Is wrong
>2. Driver issues
Poor ram overclocking is NOT driver issues, what the fuck are you talking about? Besides, launch problem happen everytime there's a new architecture, regardless of Intel or AMD.
>3. Lack of solid compatibility with certain companies
Explain further

>Besides the countless graphs that show a lack of "stuttering" and a 5% performance gain compared to 4c/4t Intel chips, it seems like the Ryzen chips are more of are hassle than they're worth.
Now this sounds just like shilling. 5% performance gain when compared to 4c/4t? There is no AMD 4c4t to compare to Intel's 4c4t, unless you're talking AMD's 4c8t & 6c12t in which case the performance difference is higher than 5% and much, much higher than 5% for the 6 cores parts

>6700k is the best processor in terms of performance per dollar and ease
No, unless you're talking gaming only. The actual king of performance per dollar right now is the 6 cores R5 1600 that is great at gaming and much greater at multi-threaded workloads.
>and ease of installation
Just what thefuck are you on about with this? What ease of installation is lacking with Ryzen CPUs? Do you think my Windows decided to give me blue screens every few seconds while i installed it with my r7 1700 or something? Do you actually know what you are talking about or are you just parroting something another retard said somewhere?

>So, someone please show me the light with Ryzen chips. Are they worth the hype or is it more that people just don't want to buy Intel?
Not gonna lie, you sound more like a troll than anything.

>>60358043
Where? Lowest I could find was 150.

>>60361635
RMA it.

>>60361851
Yes. Either get a high end RX580 if it's for 1440p, or get the cheap 1080.

>>60369866
> Already bought the CPU

I'm a graphic designer and I just want to have a workstation PC that I can use for work (PS,AI), with potential 3d and video editing in mind.

As for gaming, since I've always used shitty laptops until now, I haven't really had any experience with. But now that I'm making a decent computer I might get into it. But currently, this is strictly a workstation build.

>>60370323
well, just consider the evga 650w over the 750w one so you save some cash that you maybe wanna drop on the ram to get a 3200mhz one for the minor performance boost since ryzen benefits from ram speed significantly and the gpu you chose will probably do its job well at 1080p res at ultra/high settings at a stable 60fps.

>>60364576
The CPU will bottleneck it in many games.

>>60364682
>cuck self with 1080p because cucksync is too expensive
I don't understand you people.

>>60365495
Rosewill SRM-01 is only $20.

>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144018
Arriving DoA is not a bad review. It's not their fault something gets damaged in shipping.
But you should get the ASRock pro4 mATX or the 350m Prime mATX.

>>60365801
Spamming is against the rules.

I feel like I shouldn't have this much troubles deciding on a SSD + HDD

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>>60370000
>1. No ITX boards
Where were the launch day mITX boards, dumb fuck?
And there is an mITX board now, you ignorant cuck.
>2. Driver issues
No there isn't, except for Nvidia's driver.
>3. Lack of solid compatibility with certain companies
It's compatible with x86-64 programs as expected. No crashes. No blowing up SSDs like Sandy Bridge did.

>>60370213
Now say all that without swearing and I'll listen to it.

Sorry there is one ITX board, Ryzen can't overclock RAM, and Asus boards don't play nicely with the CPU.

And for us that only use our PCs for gaming, what makes the CPU so good?

>>60370834
Not spoon feeding you information that's readily available out there if you search for it.

Go away. Go buy an i5. Fools like you deserve to have their money wasted.

>>60370000
this.
glad i didnt fall for the ryzen meme.
the [spoiler]buy-3200mhz-but-run-at-2666mhz-and-notice-no-difference-compared-to-2400mhz-at-1080p60-anyways[/spoiler] meme.
the [spoiler]get-the-latest-agesa-update-every-2-weeks-for-literally-the-same-performance[/spoiler] meme
the [spoiler]save-90-seconds-of-your-life-in-video-rendering-and-then-waste-them-at-some-point-of-your-day-shitposting[/spoiler] meme

truth is, is you are part of the 80% of people gaming at 1080p60, you wont see any noticeable advantage worth the trouble of going amd. wait a year or two, maybe.

>>60370876

If it's not easy for you to prove they're worthwhile, then they're not worth the cash.

I want to use an Intel processor, I'm thinking I5-7500

>>60368927
bump

>>60370834
>Sorry there is one ITX board
Yes, much different than "no ITX board"

>Ryzen can't overclock RAM
Yes it can, just not that well, what the fuck are you on about?

>Asus boards don't play nicely with the CPU.
Please explain how my Asus Prime b350m-a doesn't play nicely with my R7 1700 because i have absolutely zero fucking any idea what you are talking about

>And for us that only use our PCs for gaming, what makes the CPU so good?
The fact that it performs as well and doesn't reach 90+% CPU usage in 3 years old games?

>>60370886
>truth is, is you are part of the 80% of people gaming at 1080p60, you wont see any noticeable advantage worth the trouble of going amd. wait a year or two, maybe.
I have to uses these links every threads because of retards like you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
>you wont see any noticeable advantage worth the trouble of going amd. wait a year or two, maybe.
Yes, wait a year or two until you see your shitty 4 cores 4 thread CPU shit itself completely in newer games when you could've gotten an R5 1600 instead

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>>60370886
>literally the same performance
>aka actually more IPC improvement than Broadwell to Kabylake

>>60370876

And I'm not a shill, I like that AMD made the 8c/16t cheap and proved that it's possible and undercut Intel. What I don't like is that pcbg can't provide a clear concise reason that they're preferred and resort to calling anyone a shill if they want some answers

>>60370911
How much is it priced and how much more is the R5 1600?
i5s are pretty worthless this current gen unless discounted or on very, very tight budget

>>60370973
>resort to calling anyone a shill if they want some answers
The problem is that you don't answer question, you just grasp at straws and say "huh, ryzenfag, how can you like this?"
We've had a lot of people asking for Ryzen informations in the past months and those that didn't do it the way you did it ended up with more knowledge than they started

The "fact" that Ryzen is shit is already set in stone in your mind and there's nothing that will change it. You're not searching for actual answers.

>>60371014

Then Ryzen is shit

>>60371086
then create a thread and tell us how much ryzen is this, but /pcbg/ is not the place for you to throw you tantrums

>>60371097
>tantrums

What?

>>60370787
Get a Samsung 850 250gb for you OS drive, and a WD 1tb blue for your games and everything else. not hard at all.

>Athlon X4 860K @ 4.6GHz
>GTX 560
>8GB 1866MHz

I can't seem to overclock higher on my CPU without instabilities. What should I save up for?
The following is what I have in mind for a system:
>occasional game session with some friends
>video editing/rendering
>home media server VM (maybe VM, maybe host machine)
>near-constantly having Chrome, Skype, Discord, Steam, and MusicBee open

I'm retarded and have no idea what I should get. A friend recommended Ryzen 7 1700, but it's about $430
the games I'd play are random games we find on gamejolt/itchio, and maybe some random AAA titles on Steam, and I play them at 1080p, preferably high-max at smooth 60fps
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!

dumb question.

What ssd would you get here? Would you rather go for a 3d nand tlc or 2d nand tlc one?

https://geizhals.de/?cat=hdssd&xf=2028_768%7E252_400%7E4851_1%7E4851_3%7E4851_4

As a regular consumer here.

>>60371259
$430?
Canadian?

>>60371457
Nah, Australian
Sorry, probably should've added that in

>>60371382
3d nand.

>>60371382
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-KingDian-M-2-NGFF-240GB-256GB-SSD-Solid-State-Disk-for-Desktop-PCs-and/32653993121.html

what do anons think about getting a cheap chink SSD? I've tested it against my Samsung 850 Evo 256 GB and the speeds were pretty much the same, I know people who have been using it for a 0.5-1 year and it's still running fine.

>>60371475
1500x or 1600 then, obviously.
Just get a cheap board.
Since you're not gaming much, you really don't need fast RAM, as anything over 2666 rarely benefits those other cases you listed.

RX570 4GB would let you play those games maxed. But you could just get an RX560 to play them on medium, while still playing older stuff maxed. The 560 is just a bit weaker than a 7970. It's a pretty good card if you can get it cheap enough (should be like 40% less than the RX570 to be worthwhile).

>>60371595
If you don't care about your data id say go ahead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LZ92nn

Upgrading CPU from sandy bridge. This PC mostly does gaymen but more speed for light FPGA/image processing work is helpful. Bit surprised we AMD now but I'm fairly convinced after having done my reading. Picked a random ASUS mobo, so no clue about that.

>>60371650
>Picked a random ASUS mobo, so no clue about that.
x370 is overkill, dont get it unless you need the extra pcie lanes / sli or xfire support, or extreme overclocking

Bought NoFan CR95C, Seasonic 520FL2 and a meme 1050Ti fanless GPU.
With new heatsink FX6300 keeps below 65C in load (granted I got nice 15C drop after undervolting, still seems bretty good for fanless system), GPU around 80C (pretty high, though NVIDIA claims it's OK till 97C). Also undervolted MOBO and got 25C less (though it is a shitty Gigabyte reaching almost 100C before undervolt).
Anybody knows any software for GPU undervolting? BIOS editor for Pascal still isn't out (or at least I was unable to find it). Afterburner is OK, but its frequency/voltage curve only goes down to 0.8V and my GPU is even below that on stock (probably factory undervolt since it's a fanless card).

>>60371696
cool, thanks

>>60371180
Thanks. I hope 250gb is enough for dualboot tho

>>60371865
It should be, linux takes up a fraction of the space of windoze.

>>60368927
bump

a-anyone?

>>60371939
So.. what if I want 2 windows?

NEW THREAD
>>60368927
Get a 3770k or upgrade to 1500X/1600/1600X.
If you can sell your 970 while retards will still overpay $175-$200 for them, do it. But people are starting to catch on.

>>60371897
>>60371897
>>60371897

>>60371961

Mid-range/10. Overclock and come back in a year unless you want to go up in resolution.

>>60372018
Well you'll be fine. I used to have win10 pro using only a 120gb ssd. And you'll have other storage.

>>60372122
>win10 pro
>120gb
Oh my god that's way worse than I thought, that + win7 wouldn't leave much space for games and big programs I'll use frequently

I think I won't install 10 at all for now then.

>>60372270
You misunderstand. I had the os and all my programs and files installed on the 120gb drive.

>>60372322
Oh, ok. I need to research how's the clean install sizes for both OS. Thanks though

>>60372048
>>60372049
t-thanks

>>60353743
Not as comfy as you would think. It starts to hurt the palm where the top part ends in an edge.