/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Tfw no ebay account to sell extra hardware on

>>60371897
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kXKLD

got the gpu and motherboard as a package deal 10% off. I mostly do some image editing, some games every now and then. Wanted the option to play newer games that my old pc couldn't handle on anything other than low res. Also didnt want my computer to freeze up when I try to zoome out on a picture I am editing.

good enough?

>>60372159
The fuck am I looking at?
You just stacking cards as storage?
>>60372474
It's good enough, but you may want to wait two weeks. A new card is releasing that should drop prices on 1070-80's.
You also have a Z type board for a CPU that you can't overclock.

>>60372474
Oh, and you can get a smaller PSU, and get more RAM.
12-16GiB will do you fine.
Aim for higher frequency RAM as well. As per what your mobo can handle.

>>60372645
my galxy s4 camera is dog shit so I stuffed them in there real quick for the picture.
I also have a 560ti, i5 2400, i5 2500k, i3 6100, b150 mobo, h110 mobo, sandy bridge mobo, extra 16gb ddr4, 8gb ddr3, hyper 212 all sitting in my closet.
I live in a ghetto so craigslist isn't active.
Have absolutely no use for them. I have a living room but it's literally empty because i never use it. Never leave my room even though im renting a full house so I cant even like use it as a hptc or something

>>60372766
Just give that shit to kids that wouldn't have a PC.
That, or setting up paypal for ebay will take you a week after they transfer the 1-2c into your account.

>>60372763
thanks, I'll just wait a couple of weeks then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjMjQV
How much is this in Canadian Dollars?

>>60372813
I dont know any kids. its too high powered for a simple nas/home server. can you think of anything useful

>>60372879
folding@home

>>60372474
>got the gpu and motherboard as a package deal 10% off.
click the gear icon to put in actual price paid.

also
>2133MHz RAM.

>>60371897
That's fucking CUTE

>>60372876
changed the case.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sJ9VXH
how much is it now?

>>60372876
>>60372977
>How much is this in Canadian Dollars?
not-worth-buying/leaf

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnZVXH

Mostly intend to use for programming, light multi-tasking, and 1080p 60hz gaming.

>>60373099
Get a SATA SSD instead

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>GPU RMA is late
>it's weekend so I can't even call them to vent my frustration
>captcha makes me click through 30 images before letting me post

>>60373183
>Use Recaptcha v1

>>60373161

Why? I don't need space, I already have some hard drives I can use for extra storage.

I figured that the faster speed of the 960 evo justified the added price. Are the benefits of NVMe ssd really marginal?

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>>60373420
Read the OP.
Look up non-synthetic tests yourself if you are still in doubt.

If you already have a large SSD since you say you don't need space, just keep using that.

>>60373099

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Replaced the psu and the ssd.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NK4LxY
For gaming and software/game development

Can anyone explain to me why the i5 isn't good for gamin? I thought it was even recommended for gaming

>>60373754
also inb4
>paying for windows

>>60373754
Don't pay for Windows unless this is for a business.

improve my build /g/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HqCN7h

>>60373764
because the ryzen 5 is out. go for either the ryzen 1600 or 1500x

>>60373764
Because the i5 gets 100% cpu usage in most games because of its low core and thread count and that causes stuttering and hiccups all over.

With Ryzen, that doesn't happen because the cpu usage is usally around 50-67% in most games and that also leaves you plenty of room to do other stuff, like shitpost on 4chan while you game.

>>60373847
Get a 1800X or 1950X, lower wattage PSU, better RAM, and a less huge gay compensating case.

>>60374005
but an i5 is cheaper in my country
>>60374193
Ah, thanks man

>>60374215
How much cheaper? If its like $30 cheaper its not worth it to get an i5.

>>60373754
plz respond

>>60374309
Like 176.20 USD cheaper

>>60374485
Oh ok than get the i5.

>>60374485
haha what. Show us the prices of the i5 and ryzen 5.

What is G4560 prices? You should probably just get that.

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I want 3D tiddies. What do? Do 3D monitors exist today or are they truly dead and buried?
I would get a VR set instead, but I'm still hoping someone get PSVR to run on PC.

Hey guys my budget is $900 and i have a gtx 1070 graphic card. What should i parts should i use? In kind of a noob previous console peasant
I want to run newer games on high and maybe 4k

I already have a giant power rangers case with 10 fans and 700w Rosewill psu.

How's this look for an upgrade from my 1055t, r9 270x, 8gb DDR3?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WvLMxY

>>60374727

Entirely-by-the-numbers/10

>>60374717
Any 120hz+ monitor can provide 3d with strobing glasses, but it's a meme

>>60374778
>what did he mean by this?

I'm not looking for a powerhouse, just a nice budget upgrade using best rated components for my price range.

>>60374815
I'm fine with memes as long I get 3D tiddies really. But I forgot you can get 3D with 120+hz display, thanks.

What should I do to get the right glasses? It seems there's several types

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I've got a pair of G.Skill ripjaws V series 8 GB DDR4-3200, and a MSI Tomahawk B350.

Whenever I try to put the two ram sticks together, the mobo fails to POST. It turns on, flashes the CPU debug light, and turns on, all in instants. It works fine with only one stick though, albeit only at most at 2667MHz.

My mobo is still with its default BIOS. Did this problem get fixed with any BIOS updates? Or will I be still stuck with only one 8GB stick after the update?

>>60371897

Every time I see this Dragon as the /pcbg/ image, my day brightens a bit. He's just so cute.

>>60374961
>and turns on
I mean, it turns turns off, and then turns on again, repeating the process until I cut the power.

>>60374881
Nevermind, I found a good article about 3D glasses.
Ok, now to find a good 120hz display with good color range

>>60374717
I heard that glasses-free 3D is coming.
Glasses, especially dark tinted ones, killed 3D.

>>60374727
Though that board has decent BIOS, and dual BIOS is a nice feature, its VRMs are super shit. Like, literally the worst.
And the GPU is overkill for 1080p 60hz. Just get an RX570 4GB. Preferably a good one like the Red Devil.
And I'd get the MX300 or SU800 over that SSD. I'm not sure why you chose that one. That price for 240GB isn't exactly great.

>>60374974
Aww.

>>60374833

> using best rated components for my price range.

Which is exactly what it is. That is the current go-to cookie cutter high performance but not wallet raping build. Nothing stands out as amazing and nothing is a bad choice.

My only advice is to make sure your ram is on your mobos QVL if you want it to run at anything over 2666mhz unless you want to gamble on the may AGESA providing compatability.

>>60375000
I made that list a few weeks ago. The price of the SSD must've changed since then. Good point on the 570.

>>60375033
>nothing is a bad choice
This is basically what I was looking for. Been about 6 years since I've had a new system so I'm having to research all the new tech.

>>60371897
1090T
RX 480
how 2 upgrade without spending new pc money on just a cpu

why does getting a new gen cpu cost so much
fucking ddr4
who gives a shit its the same shit as 3

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>>60375125
?
It doesn't cost much.
You can get a 1600+board+RAM for under $400.

what's with i5s not being enough for games? I thought consoles had super weak CPUs so how can they run the games but not i5s?

Would a 520w psu be enough for a 1500x plus a rx 570?

>>60375168
Consoles are more optimized than PCs when it comes to gaming. Also jaguar cpus have more cores than an i5.

this dilemma is still tearing me apart (because of tight budget of course)
i thought i will by ryzen 5 1600 but it can't work without gpu and now i think to buy locked i7 7700 and use igpu for a while (i want to buy gtx 1060 later). why i7? because i think it will last longer also i might utilize it
guys, is i7 with an igpu for a couple of months is a bad idea? maybe ryzen is so must have that i should not even consider it. hoping for the replies..

>>60375235
but aren't the cores in an i5 way faster than a jaguar?

>>60375165
but thats way too much
the 1090T with ram and a mb was almost half that
i would stop being poor but my job and the economy wont let me

>>60373754
For software dev i'd go with R5 1600(x) which compils noticeably faster (as expected of a 2 cores cpu)

How bad did I fucked up?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BztgYJ

I mainly use the computer for video editing, after effects and 3D applications. I do play games from time to time but that's not the reason why I got it.

I'm in Canada, any advice is welsome

>>60375257
Yes, but that doesn't matter when most games released today are unoptimized garbage.

>>60375311
>$746.75 for 6 cores

Kek
As expected of a fucking leaf.

>>60375311
That is the worst most overpriced PC I've ever seen what the fuck are you doing
At least 970 for applications won't be as bad as it is for gaming.

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>>60375311

>Intel

When will canadians ever learn?

>>60375107
Updated and saved $150 CDN.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9xqrCy

>>60375410
can i trust these benchmarks? because now i don't want to go for intel at all..
>>60375239 - me

>>60375168
Consoles run most games at 30fps. An i5 will certainly give you more than that, but it doesn't quite manage consistent 60fps in many games - especially if you're not running in benchmark conditions, with everything other than the game closed.

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>>60375311
Badly
Get an R7 1700. Costs $325, offers 8 cores 16 threads, outperforms your shit at anything you quoted.
The liquid cooling isn't really needed, though you can keep it if you want.
$780 motherboard what the fuck
That PSU is also way overkill

>>60375239
No, a 4 cores CPU that hits 75+% usage in game isn't going to last longer than a 6 cores ones that hits 50% in same games
And if we're talking outside gaming, there is not even a doubt any more. 6 cores > 4 core all days

>>60375495
thank you friend. now i decided to go for ryzen 100%, will wait a little but it will be worth it

Will windows automatically download MOBO drivers? Should I still go online and get the latest ones for (chipset, audio, ect)?

X79 Motherboard with a 3930K is dying. (Not my computer, it's a custom build from a shop a relative got bullied into in 2012)
What can I replace it with? X99 seems to be incompatible and not a single shop sells X79 boards anymore. The only one I found was from the UK for 600 euros.

Thinking about putting in an AMD 1600, but re-buying DDR4 RAM (32GB) doubles the price of CPU+Motherboard and it feels rather bad throwing out an intel 6-core.

It's a work computer mostly used for photoshop and other batch image viewing/editing shenanigans.

What do I do? Would the 1600 be an okayish choice?
Or should I get some older i5/7 that still works with DDR3?
I'd rather get a cheaper CPU/Motherboard now and upgrade more often (with DDR4 in 2-3 years still being a thing hopefully) than buying some 2000 euro CPU now which is obsolete in 3 years.

>>60374961
pls respond.

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Hello, I need advice on my first build ever. Reading a few of these threads brought me to parts included (not listed is cooler, hdd, psu, case). Is this a good build? I plan to OC, do some programming, general MT and gaming at 1080p. Also, why is this mobo cheaper than the other X options?

>>60375603
do not buy PULSE version of this gpu. buy nitro or msi model

>>60375353
>>60375405
>>60375410
>>60375495

Thank you for the advice, that build is over a year old. I can assure you it was around 2100 when I got it.

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Is MSI AfterBurner recommended?

>>60375451

Read the source yourself and judge.

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-e3-1225-v6-linux-benchmarks-review/

Realistically though outside of a few niche cases anything other than the 6900k is a waste of time. If you NEED the extra I/O x99 provides then sure, but otherwise zen invalidates it. I wonder how AMD will price naples - having 16c/32t for 1000 dorra would be a kick in the balls Intel would struggle to respond to.

>>60375543
Why would you re-buy ram?

>>60375573
You tried setting 2400MHz speed then putting the second stick?
Anyway, do update to second latest bios. Latest one contains agesa update which removed some of the workaround that had been added to improve RAM overclock, so you'll get less luck with it.

I find it funny that you're better off buying a second hand pc for half this price rather than buying this piece of shit (the cheapest)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2W3hr7

>>60375666
>Why would you re-buy ram?
Ryzen boards don't support DDR3, so I'd have to re-buy as DDR4.

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Just finished building my PC today- thoughts? I've got some bf4 running in the back with all settings on ultra.

(Ryzen 7 1800)

>>60375661
Yes I use it and bumped my r9 up 5% with no problems.

Hi /pcbg/, building a new PC.

Going to be used for VR gaymen, normal gaymen, and just general PC use. No streaming, editing, or recording.

3000$ budget, but I don't mind going 100 over.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TJ6VY

>>60375959
congrats, i'm jelly

>>60372977
Look in the top right corner if you still can't find it it's the X button

What's the best motherboard for an R5 1600 that's not a shitload if I don't want to overclock

>>60375959
wow that game looks ugly
tha future all buildings have the same neon light outlines except in different colors xDDDD

>>60376046
gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 or ab350-d3h
asrock ab350 pro
this is my opinion after reading specs and watching some reviews

>>60376065
>xDDDD
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

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>>60376065
I know you're just shitposting, but that's pretty much what modern day Hong Kong is.

Trying to help my friend get a new PC for basic web browsing and office work to replace his 2008 single core trashbox. Normally I prefer building my own PCs but looking at the prices of some of these prebuilts it seems hard to compete.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474800/Aspire_ATC-780A-UR12_Desktop_Computer
This has a i5 7400, 8GB RAM and a 2TB HDD for only $430. The i5 7400 would cost like $180 alone. Is it possible to build something this good for less than this? I think buying this and slapping a $50 SSD in there is the way to go.

>>60376132
>2
No. The lights are different. It's not the same outline with the same length and shit.
and the buildings aren't all black. They're various light and dark greys, with various warmth or coolness to the lighting. Looks much better.

>>60376134
>need basic web browsing box to replace single core shitbox
>overpriced i5
Read the OP.

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What's the CPU to go with 1080 these days?

>60376148
Your shitposts are so bad you don't even deserve a (You)

>>60376174
For just 60fps? 1500X is ideal. It consistently stays over 60fps except in the few things that will also drop a 7700 down like FO4 and Arma3.
But most people will recommend just getting a 1600 and overclocking even though it's more than you need, since it's only like $40 more for 50% better performance.

>>60375959
Why get the X370 if you're not running SLI?

>>60376174
r5 1600 / 7700k

>>60376134
Something like that is overkill if all he does is web browsing and office crap. $60 pentium, cheap H110 mobo, 250W PSU and 8GB of RAM doesn't really cost anywhere near as much and will be completely sufficient for his needs.

>>60376207
Possibility to upgrade in the future.

Are Samsung EVO 850s still the best SSDs around? Or are there any cheaper options of comparable quality available?

>>60376303
read thread. It's been gone over already. ctrl+f ssd

>>60376371
Whoops, my bad. Chart in >>60373525 cleared it up, thank you.

>>60375959

>8gb ram

Where is the other 8?

>>60376252

Unless AMD releases a zen equivalent of the 9590 unless you sli/crossfire x370 is overkill. Which is exactly why I bought a crosshair hero to house an overclocked 1700.

>>60376469
In the mail

I've always been tempted to go with r5 1600x, but even without OCing the 1600 is the increase in performance for the 1600x even worth it?

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Please final check this build anon~senpai.
Case is just for price range and I want to know if there are better Mobos around that pricerange(Best Bios,PCB)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkWN7h

>>60376656
also if you know a better monitor around that price tell me

>>60376603
Um.. yes?
It's $30 more or something for 10% better performance.
The whole point in getting a 1600 is better value IF you overclock. If you don't overclock, you should get a 1500X or 1600X.
But you can often find the 1600X on sale as well. 1600s almost never go on sale. They sell so well.

>>60376694
Alright, thanks anon.

I have some wiggle room in my budget for an aftermarket heatsink anyway.

>>60376656
i would get toshiba p300 or seagate st1000dm010 hdd (don't listen to retards saying seagate is shit).

for 20€ more i'd recommend Samsung S24E370DL. it's bigger (23.6") and has much better display, though also a smaller freesync range but imo it's worth it

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>>60371897
Is this good enough for PS2 emulation at 1080p30? Already have an SSD. Would also be doing PS1, NES, snes, and Genesis emulation with retropie
Https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9nJPs

>>60376938
>shitgate
no sorry m8 I only had 2 HDDs in my whole life fail on me, both semengate, never gonna buy them again
and I changed my monitor to
AOC - G2460VQ6 24.0

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Any anons with a 1600x here, heard a couple autists on the internet screaming about heat issues on stock clock.

>>60377064
>good enough for PS2 emulation
No
>1080p30
>30
So you want to play PS2 games at half speed?

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What does /pcbg/ think of buying used parts?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nN6Qnn
Help make this build cheaper? I'm not really going to game that much, just ocasionally Overwatch or CS:GO, maybe the highest graphics consuming game I'd play would be bf4 in medium. Btw, I know the case is expansive but I know a dude who's selling it to me with a discount so I'm not going to change that.
I'm going to use a lot of FL studio and some programs at the same time, so there's that. Gonna use the money I can save for buying a better keyboard and pair of headphones.

>>60377188
CPU isn't up to snuff? What would I need?

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>>60377204
Btw, I'd prefer it to be overall faster, don't really care much about the "gaming" performance.

>>60377204
remove the stupid cpu cooler. the pentium includes one.

>>60377259
I live in a very hot place, and I'm very sensitive about the noise. Thanks for the suggestion though.

>>60377268
>I'm very sensitive about the noise
>listens to meme "rap"
ok buddy

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/KyCwrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001

Is Seagate shit?

>>60377292
Haha, I guess you got a point there. Don't listen them much anyways, just like the pictures they use and some of their lyrics.

>>60377074
too bad seagate is still more reliable than wd.

just get toshiba p300. it's quieter and performs better.

also that monitor you picked still has a TN (i.e shit) panel. just go with the samsung one.

Is Pentium G4560/GTX 1050Ti fine for a friend of mine who comes from a crappy PC and wants to play Star Wars Battlefront with decent graphics and then discover some new games with Steam? I saw a video in which that combo ran Battlefront at Ultra with an overclocked 1050 Ti but I'm suggesting her the OC version so it may run like that even without tweaking.
The real question is: will such a combo last decently in time if she doesn't care about maxing everything out?

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>>60377298
not really. pick either ST2000DM006 (it's the newer version) or toshiba p300.

>>60377064
You should have gotten that A4-7300 that was on sale for $20 a few weeks ago

>>60377085
My 1600X heatsink is <3C above ambient.

>>60377204
That is far too much to spend of a G4560 build.
Get cheaper RAM, obviously. G-Skill has 2400MHz RAM for $60.
Drop the cooler.
Get an RX570 4GB, or a RX560/1050Ti even.
Get a cheaper case, like the $20 Rosewill SRM-01, unless you're really attached to that $80 one.

>>60377242
If you don't care about gaming much and just need a good shitposting machine, get the 1400 or 1500X with an RX560, 2x8GB of RAM and a SSD.

People seem to often super underrate the GPU performance of the 1060 and 580. They aren't "midrange". GPU performance needed in games for 1080p has largely plateaued. They play 99.9% of games maxed at 1080p 60+fps. An RX560 is around 7970 performance despite being a <75watt card. It games perfectly fine, just not maxed out.

>>60377416
>2TB toshiba
>super cheap
>big
>super reliable

There has to be a catch somewhere. Is it the noise?

>G4560 iGPU is fine for LoL, dota2, rocket league, etc

that's some ridiculous misinformation

>>60377429
>Get cheaper RAM, obviously. G-Skill has 2400MHz RAM for $60.
"Btw, I know the case is expansive but I know a dude who's selling it to me with a discount so I'm not going to change that. "
Thanks for the suggestions, but please read what I wrote senpai.

>>60377475
Its fine if you play all of those on low.

>>60377409
I'm pretty sure battlefront maxed isn't going to stay at 60fps+ on a 1050Ti and G4560. Pretty sure you'll dip under 45fps at times, especially if there's anything running in the background.

But the 1050Ti certainly isn't weak. Just generally overpriced. If you find one under $115, that's a decent price for one. It can play 1080p 60fps on most games on medium-high, but the G4560 can be a bottleneck in lots of newer games.
Might want to consider a 1500X+RX560 instead. The RX560 tends to be better in newer games for the price.
Or G4560+RX560, and using the savings to get a 40-75Hz freesync monitor (can get them around $110). That way dipping under 60fps won't be a big deal.

>>60377475
Fuck off, dumb shill
https://youtu.be/0UsLbli1SFA?t=2m23s

>>60377481
Put in prices you're paying. When your words contradict the pcpartspicker, it's confusing.

>>60377474
no, actually according to KitGuru review:
"The drive is very quiet in operation even when it was being pushed hard in some of the benchmark"

Dwarf Fortress runs kind of slow on my AMD Phenom II. What kind of CPU should I get for my autistic dwarf sim?

>>60377530
And it's only $67?
This makes me want a HDD even though I already have 2 1TB SDDs.
If it was 2.5", then maybe..

>>60377660
Just a 1500X or G4560 would be fine.
But depending on the size of your maps and how late and complicated them run, I guess you might want an i3-7350k for the maximum single core performance.

>>60377530
Thanks, bought the 2TB version.

>>60377429
what heatsink u using bb?

>>60375666
>Anyway, do update to second latest bios.

The 7A34v14 (2017-04-26)?

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>>60377829
Cryorig C1.

>>60377429
With the 400 or 1500x, a RX560, 2x8GB of Ram and a SSD I would end up with a more expansive build. I just wanted to lower the price by caring less about game performance :/
And I live in Mexico, so the RX560 doesn't ship here, or the shipping cost is too expansive.

>>60377925
sell drugs or import guns

>>60377938
It's funny that I discarded gaming and I only received more expansive builds.

I bought ryzen
I need gpu, I dont game
got some old one
would like 1000 series cheap, low power, modern
when can we expect low tier gpus to catch up?

bought liquid metal for when i delid my 7700k

can i use it instead of thermal paste for my heatsink? is it better?

>>60377495
I found the 1050 ti for around 115 € so I guess it's fine. I'd rather get the 1050X but it's 200 € vs G4560's 50 € and we're already on the edge of my friend's budget lol

Anyway I saw in that video that Battlefront had even 70 fps on that combo in most situations, and I think my friend will be fine if she can get 30 fps in everything since she comes from nothing. If you have some ~100 € alternative to the G4560 which could be significantly less of a bottleneck though, it will be nice.

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>tfw my sister wants me to build an ultra cheap budget gaming system for her for her birthday
>Ryzen 3/Raven Ridge still isn't realesed yet

REEEEE COME ON AMD

>>60378186
I'm >>60378149, we're in similar situation

>>60378186
ultra cheap would still mean G4560
doubt amd will trump that at that price point
and its enough for a girly gaming

>>60378104
What is wrong with an RX550 or GTX 1030?

>>60378149
Under 60fps is fine as long as you have refresh syncing. Otherwise you get screen tearing, which sucks.

>>60378186
suck jim keller off

>>60378215
>GTX 1030
that they dont exists

>>60378211
I would imagine they will have a better *value* CPU, albeit not one as cheap.
Maybe a 2c/4t that you can overclock and the iGPU is twice as good for slightly more money.

>>60378211
Except i have to buy a separate graphics card with the pentium.

>>60378205
RIP us.

>>60378215
Do common use modern Full HD ASUS monitors have that? She has that one, bought it recently cause she only needed to watch 1080p anime and movies even on a crappy PC lol

>>60378264
AMD APUs aren't that big of a deal, you get laptop tier performance. Go with Pentium G4560 and 1050 Ti if you find it for 115 $ or less

>>60378264
>Except i have to buy a separate graphics card with the pentium.
1. no you dont
2. gaming pc mean dedicated gpu most of the time.

The promise of a new dan case A4 kickstarter is making me hype. Maybe by the time the cases are delivered there will be ITX AM4/Ryzen boards.

In a lot of ways i realise it's preeeety dumb, but it just looks so neat and tiny.

>>60378286
>laptop tier performance
It's nearly Xbox One performance for the A12-9800K and Raven Ridge will be like twice as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGuFVc8AFXk

>>60378288
>1. no you dont
I think he means the Pentium iGPU is weak. It is quite weak. It's about 40% that of the A12-9800K.

I was waiting for Ryzen and now I'm thinking of waiting for i9. what do?

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I was trying to rebuild my PC to replace the motherboard when

It won't fit, the fuck is this?

>>60378288
Yes i do, the iGPU in the pentium is garbage. I'd have to spend more money with a pentium and a 1050/ti than if i could just buy an APU.

>>60378356
why are you waiting for a $900+ cpu?

>>60378361
haha?
Maybe those aren't for your socket.

>>60378356
Get the R9. Overclock 16 cores to 4.1GHz.
Upgrade to 2p board when those come out, if there aren't any at launch.

>>60378363
but apus are shit tier and cpu performance will be shit too
maybe in 2015/2016 they made some sense, but the amount of performance you get from hyperthreaded pentium which turned it in to i3 without turbo
and from pascal/polaris architecture of the cards which drop to 16/14nm... is too great to pass because of $50 extra

>>60378336
>Mid 30 FPS
>Xbox one performance
You know doom 2016 runs at 60 FPS on console right?

>>60378405
>cpu performance will be shit too
Ryzen seems good so far, why would a ryzen apu be shit.

>but the amount of performance you get from hyperthreaded pentium which turned it in to i3 without turbo

Thats great, but raven ridge is supposedly going to have four cores. Making the shitium obsolete.

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>>60378393
Both the old and new motherboards are LGA 1150. Looks like this shit's the problem and it looks adhered to the back

>>60377416
>company uses consumer tier HDDs in high demand server setting,
>they fail fast
Geh I wonder why
Also sample sizes are fucked up I don't give a single shit about backblaze """statistics""""

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>>60378419

The second you feed Doom a dedicated gpu it runs like greased lightning in the PC space.

>>60378443
nigger, here and now, not what can be or could be

>>60378450
the fuck is this shittier graph, its all over the place make it top down to be readable or fuck off

>>60378449

Backblaze's statistics are entirely based around buying the cheapest, nastiest drives they can and running them out of spec and then complaining that they fail. If Backblaze ever bothered to actually buy server-grade drives their statistics would be a lot less interesting.

>>60378458
>nigger, here and now, not what can be or could be
>coming from the guy that is shitting on a apu that isn't even released yet

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>>60378468

>too stupid to read a graph.

Have a 4k graph just because I have one. Note that async compute is disabled in this one because Ivan cannot into settings.

>>60378419
>nearly
Still 2.5x the G4560 and playable.
And the Raven Ridge iGPU should be about twice as good, while having a far better CPU along with it.

There is a massive difference in performance between the A12-9800k and G4560. The difference between Raven Ridge and the G4560 will be even more massive, even for 2c Raven Ridge.

>>60378484
huh? I am shitting on apus that are released.
are you bit autistic?

>>60377429
>>60377085

Question.
In the US, if you buy a 1600x and get a cryrorig c1, you could essentially have just bought a 1700 with a free wraith spire.
Do you guys prefer the r5s just because they have higher clock speeds, and gaming doesn't utilize 8c/16thread for now anyway?

>>60378469
yup blackblaze statistics are flawed as fuck, I hope everybody ignores them like they should. Seagate is shit, specially in t he cheap sector.
Get WD or HGST, if you are deaf you can buy toshiba too they are pretty gud apart from being loud.

>>60378377
I ENJOY WAITING CUZ I DON"T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY MONEY AND THIS IS MY FANTASY

>>60378506
I got the 1600X for $220 and the C1 is ~50% better than the Wraith Spire.

>>60378514
Dude, i9 is just a marketing name, it's not thst different from an i7 extreme. But have fun since you're not gonna buy it lol

>>60378492
>DOOM
I really like AMD but dont post DOOM benchmarks its like the only benchmark thats god tier "flawed" for AMD

>>60378508
>ignores the only statistics on hdd reliability there is
>proceeds to give recommendations out of his ass
alright

>>60378587
not like I work around and with serverfarms and know blackblaze is bullshit because they only use the cheapest of cheap in settings not made for the hdds also sample sizes are shit from blackblaze so nothing to respect at all.
But its ok seagate lives of the dumb like you so its fine.

>>60378632
tell me hard drive master, which (7200rpm) hard drive is the least noisy and which vibrates the least?

>>60378560
lol I'm going to buy a ryzen build if I have to give blood or w/e.

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>>60378658
>hurdur i want teh best hdd on market but don't tell my field of usage and how big it should be hurdur

>>60378695
i dont care how big it should be anon, otherwise i'd have added "i need it big"
you understand anon? I want to know which is the quietest, i dont give a fuck about the rest

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzT6VY
I don't care about gaming that much, playing BF4 on medium or high graphics would be nice, but my top priority is having a very snappy machine for everyday usage and some FL studio. Btw, I'm not sure if I could get better motherboard/power supply for this build in specific, so yeah, please help.
Thanks.

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>no CPUs with 6C/12T and iGPU released this year.

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>>60373754
>6700k

>>60374194
>1950X
???

>>60378755
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzT6VY
CUTE gpu.
That GPU will run everything on high/maxed. It'll just be the CPU holding you back on some games.
I'd get a 1400, 2666 RAM, and a cheaper GPU like the RX560 instead.
And get that HDD mentioned earlier. Cheaper and 2TB.

>>60378875
The likely name for the 16 core zen HEDT. wot are context clues

>>60378405
>but apus are shit tier
APUs are great at graphics for what they are, definitely good for casual LoL / CSGO gaming and the likes

>and cpu performance will be shit too
How so? Any r5 hold their own very nicely / outperforms i5s, and disabling SMT doesn't decrease performance that much so the R3 (being 4 cores without SMT) should still perform very well. Slap either a good old iGPU in it, or a new improved one (polaris / vega?) and you got yourself a budget beast

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>>60378858
>Opteron 6274
>$27 on ebay
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/OS6274WKTGGGU-AMD-Opteron-6274-16-Core-2-2GHz-16MB-6-4GTs-Processor/222459206548
I'm hyperventilating.

Is there an old Opteron more worth getting? 6276?
There is the 6284, 6386, but they're a lot more. Which one is the most meme?

>>60379028
>How so?
because we have actual tests showing that their performance is shit tier?
why talking about R5? Are ryzen based APUs out?
is following discussion hard?
guy is asking for a build now

>>60379104
im sorry

>>60379104
We have actual tests showing that the graphics/combined performance of the A12-9800k is far superior to a G4560, and obviously Raven Ridge will be better with a new graphics architecture and better CPU than the 4 excavator cores in the 9800.

Any news on AMD's X300 chipset?

>>60379253
its a rumor

>>60375642
Does this hold true for the 4G 570? I don't think there's a NITRO+ version of it.

>>60379307
Red Devil is the best one, if it fits in your case. That one with a good overclock beats most RX480 8GB cards.

>tfw upgraded my q6600 system to 10gb ram/OC'd to 3ghz and it's finally stable
lets hope i dont need more upgrades any time soon

now someone recommend me a good tv card or video capture card so i can hook up my cable box (with component input). i got a cheap chinkcard off ebay that works on windows but not linux, and i suspect bad usb on it

>>60379337
yeah that is big. but the Pulse is no good at all?

>>60378989
The HDD recommendation sucks anon-senpai.

>>60379426
The pulse is fine for a mITX card... but your build is obviously not mITX.

>>60378989
Like I said, I don't really care about gaming, why would I need 2 tb?

>>60371897
I got this booklet when I bought a MSI 1080Ti.
That dragon is really cute.

>>60379518
you're really cute

>>60378989
>>60379457
Also, I said I only want a every day usage snappy PC for everyday usage, why would I prefer a 2tb HDD over a 1TB SSHD?

>>60379077
No comrade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmcm7ixHXBM

>>60379573
Because it's $10 cheaper?

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Is the 1060 a meme? Deciding between that or spending an extra 150 bucks for a 1070

I'm pretty close to buying http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1104&item_id=100879

anything I should know? I'm going to grab Vega hopefully by the end of the summer to replace my r9 290. I think I'll be able to hit 80+ fps in most games if I fiddle with settings

I know some GPUs can switch into passive mode when the system is doing normal idle/desktop tasks. Do any CPUs/Coolers have the same properties?

>>60379732
>not WAIT(tm)ing for vega when it's JustAroundTheCorner(c)

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new fag here are these any good? im doing my first build

main use is gaming a content creating


https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-backplate-Graphics-11260-07-20G/dp/B01J1M4BZ2

>>60379880
>starts his posts with "new fag here"
>posts a wojak picture
please refrain from doing this

Also, an RX 480 is awfully overpriced. Uses pcpartpicker to find the best prices for your parts, at please read the OP.

>>60379880
Are any of the applications that you maybe using support CUDA acceleration? If so, consider a 1060. If not then buy a 480.

>>60379768
Yes. My 1600X in Linux automatically downvolts. And you can set fan curves.

>>60379913
>an RX 480 is awfully overpriced
I meant the one you linked only*

>>60379917
>Are any of the applications that you maybe using support CUDA acceleration?
Even if it supports CUDA, it's not always better. Like in Premiere Pro (or anything adobr really) where AMD cards outperform similarly priced Nvidia cards at OpenCL vs CUDA

>>60379932
lol. RX580 beats the 1070 in OpenCL, let alone the 1060.

At least for open source software, we should see a lot more OpenCL support over the next year. But for proprietary shit, yeah, you know.

>>60379917
>>60379913
what about these

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-480-8G/dp/B01K1JTT8S

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KQQRsY/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gaming-8g-video-card-gv-rx580gaming-8gd

i dont really want any rgb encrusted GAMER!!! grahics cards

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My older PC has a latch type SATA connector for an extra harddrive, and Molex power. I have a WD caviar that has the non latch SATA with the little L on it, as well as a longer SATA power L type connector, and an 8 pin. How can I connect this HD to my PC, which adapters? SATA to ESATA and Molex to SATA power?

>>60379980
psu choking, needs air badly

>>60379976
The MSI you linked is good but again, overpriced. The gigabyte you linked cost $160 less and performs the same.
For AMD cards, MSI, ASUS and XFX are generally the best in term of cooling & performance. Gigabyte & Sapphire come seconds. But they all are within 2% performance difference of the others so it doesn't really matter, picking the cheapest is usually the wiser option (unless it's a reference card)

>>60380007
Uhhh no the cheap MSI Armor ones are garbage. It's just the Gaming X that are decent.
Similarly, PowerColor Red Dragon are garbage, but their Red Devil cards are the best or close to it.

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>>60379980
Or should I get this thing? Not sure how the HD would be powered, the latching SATA does not have power to it correct, just data?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tj86VY

I play a lot of minecraft. Looking to buy all of this once.

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>>60380057
its not even funny

>>60380071

But you know that fanless heatsink is beautiful.

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>>60380116

>>60379970
>AMD's OpenCL 2.0 beat Nvidia's OpenCL 1.2!
Who would have guessed?

>>60379976
>the current pricing of RX480's is 300+ American pesos
Probably not then. Buy a Sapphire RX580 then

>>60380057
I'd get a better cooler like the Le Grande Macho, and get 2x16GB of RAM instead of 4x8, but the rest looks fine.

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>>60380057

>>60379929
Neat, is this in watt man or in the bios?

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>>60380208

>>60380208
>two gtx 1060
poor guy

>Have two GTX 760s
>They both work individually
>Only one shows up in any OS
>tfw suddenly no SLI
wat do

>>60380217
>Linux
>Wattman
It's in the driver.

>>60380278
For $65 you could get a 7970 which is more than twice as good as those.
Why the fuck did you ever get 2 760s?

I bought and installed a Corsair H115i against the advice of /pcbg/ and I'm seeing great temps with a pretty nice overclock. What's so bad about this cooler?

>>60380394
overpriced, not much better than a $70 air cooler, and much more risks when it comes to destroying your $1500 pc

>>60380329
Because it was was 2013, and they were $250, which mean I had GTX Titan power for half of the price. Also a 7970 is AM, so I'd have to deal with driver roulette, and god knows if it'll work under Linux.

Best watercooler for ryzen?

>>60380415

>overpriced
I could see that

>not much better
Again, understandable

>risks
I will disagree, the H115 has no issues compared to the old H100i that had leaking problems.

But I see what you're saying. I do like the aesthetic though, so I guess it's worth it.

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ok so how much of a difference will i see in just basic computer use going from pic related to this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mJy6VY

>>60380587

You can put away that fire extinguisher that I know you have sitting next to your desk.

Really though, something like that would be lightning fast comparatively. 15 second boot times, minimal loading times (if any), etc.

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>>60380394
The liquid inside the AIO turns to glue after a few months/years which gums up the heatsink and stops it from transferring heat.
I guess it'd be replaced under warranty, but it's really shit.

A good air cooler is 95% as good, cheaper, reliable, and even if the fan fails the heatsink is generally sufficient for passive cooling. The same is not true when a pump or fan fails on an AIO, or the above mentioned problem happens on an AIO.

>>60380587
>just chrome, word, and speccy is running
>74C
This doesn't seem like a problem?

>>60380511
WHAT THE FUCK? You paid $250 for them? I assumed they were like $100 new. They're such a garbage card.
For $500 you could have gotten a 7970 in 2011 which is better than the two of those combined.

>>60380688

>turns to glue

Source? This is the first time I've heard that. And like I said, the H115i has no reported issues compared to the H100i (that you posted)

>>60380587
CPU wise, the 1600 is about 15 times more powerful. And I'm not exaggerating.
It's got 3x more threads, and about 5 times the performance per thread if you overclock it to 4GHz.
And that GPU is, idk, 1000 times more powerful? Hard to quantify.

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>>60380627
>>60380688
>mfw its been at 59-65 at idle
>mfw average cpu temp is 60
>mfw fan sounds like 747 24/7
>mfw actually have fire extinguisher in my computer room

>>60380721
>It's got 3x more threads
It's got 3x more cores in fact

>>60380714
Source is picture related, obviously?

>Most common anti corrosion/anti bacterial additives for custom loops contain PEG as the main ingredient. PEG is polyethylene glycol, which many of you may know of from antifreeze. The substance has a low toxicity, is water soluble, has excellent heat transfer capabilities, prevents corrosion, and bacteria doesn't take too kindly to it.
>Makes sense as a great additive for liquid cooling, right? Well, if you add enough energy to PEG, it will break down into PE. Polyethylene. Your loop is constantly forcing your coolant through a hot plate pulling heat (energy) away from your CPU.
>This isn't enough for a rapid reaction, but give it several years... Polyethylene, by the way, is a plastic.

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>>60380688
>or $500 you could have gotten a 7970 in 2011 which is better than the two of those combined.
And would not have as good of Linux support or as good of drivers. Also, you're wrong. This sounds like you're some kind of fanboy.

>brother's work friend gave him an almost brand new XFX 7970, still in box, for free
>brother plugs into pc, starts smoking, pc turns off
>brother asks me to look at it
>card smells like burning plastic on the far right (opposite side to I/O)
>but otherwise, it looks perfect, can't see anything blown or melted plastic
is there any way to check if the card is real? what could've caused the issues I described? could a weak PSU cause that? I've considered taking the cooler off to get a better view, but I don't want to have to reapply thermal paste.

>>60380770

Source is from an H100i. And if it takes a few years to gunk up then that's not something I'm going to worry about. Thanks for the heads up though.

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>>60380721
>>60380750
thanks

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>>60380777
>old drivers
>old game
Now try it in a new game with new drivers.

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What do you do to pass the time waiting for your parts to arrive /g/?

>>60377922
Where's your power button?

>>60381405
>Where's your power button?
screw driver

>>60381370
>shitpost on /g/
>play nethack
>imagine what it would be like if my gf existed.

>>60381265
None of those GPUs are relevant to the discussion. The 7970 had already been out for years. And why can't AMD just get it right to begin with instead of releasing products that may or may not be finished?

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win10 or 7 for csgo/lol/dota? windows 10 is being a cunt recently with uptades and i want to go back to 7, but i dont know if i will have any performance drops.
pic is my specs

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>>60381836
>My 2 GTX 760s that I paid $500 for are now FIVE TIMES worse COMBINED than one $500 GPU that came out 2 years earlier
>this is all AMD's fault!!!!!!

>>60381919
I already debunked that,

AM4 mITX motherboards not by biostar WHEN

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CVZtd6

I'd like a computer to hook up to my TV for couch gaming, especially FPS stuff. How does this look?

>>60381887
You're fine with either version of windows

>>60382265
If your TV is 1080p don't buy a GTX1080. If it's 4K then you're fine but consider a GTX1080Ti

>>60382265
Also split the RAM into 2 x 8GB. You won't need more than 16GB for the life of the PC

>>60380278
>>60381836
You're the reason I come to /pcbg/. I love seeing the hilariously awful hardware purchase decisions people made.

Most people at least accept they were bad instead of performing mental gymnastics to defend them.

>>60382265
Read OP/thread.

>>60382510
>Person makes shitty claim
>Use facts and benchmarks to disprove it
>m-mental gymnastics!
Liberal logic. Anyways it turns out the PCIE port on the mobo itself is the issue. I guess I'll just get a better single GPU instead of shelling out the money for a new CPU/MOBO combo. That's what I get for cheaping out with ASRock.

>>60382464
>>60382399

Okay thanks bud.

>>60382608
>Liberal logic.
We're discussing hardware here. If you want to discuss pizzagate head back to /pol/

about to pull the trigger on this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2MR8K
Ignore the prices their different here(EU fag)
6700k cause 7700k got the overheating issues.
not toally sure about the cooler.
For gaming while having other shit open in the background.

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Here's a question for you:
I have 1050ti and planning to buy rx 580, could I use rx 580 for my main OS (linux) and 1050ti for passthrough to VM?
If graphics card is used for passthrough it's inaccessible for main OS, so it should work, right /g/uys?

>>60383078
Considering you're only getting the GTX1060, you should drop to the R5 1500X if it's available in your region.

>>60383155
Yes

>>60383078
The overheating issues are a meme.

4.8GHz - top 100%
4.9GHz - top 91%
5.0GHz - top 62%
5.1GHz - top 24%
5.2GHz - top 4%

Newest stock skews better than the initial SL numbers.

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>>60383222
That's great then.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X8g2LD

Is there any reason I shouldn't buy one of these meme machines? I'll mostly be playing shit like EVE and WoW, but it obviously needs to be able to run voip apps at the same time.

>>60383503
Sorry I forgot to say, my budget is as low as possible. I could go up to $800 max but I also need to budget for a monitor.

>>60383503
>>60383514
Remove windows 10 and get the free ISO from here.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>>60383549
Don't you still need an activation key? Sorry, I've been a non gaming loonixfag and haven't stolen windows in a very long time.

>>60383598
No, it'll be unactivated but other than that its full windows 10.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6CHXBP
Rate my planned mid-priced budget gaming PC. Will also use for programming and general usage.

Still considering on getting an SSD, but I don't really want to spend an extra $60+. Am I being dumb?

>>60383710
SSD is not essential, just nice to have for loading programs and booting fast. Installed a small one in my loonix laptop and it cut my firefox loading time in less than half.

>>60378755
>>60378989
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZHc2LD
I'm a bit confused about the rx560, is there a difference between Sapphire's and AMD's? And I can't find AMD's anywhere, is it not out yet or something?

>>60374961
1: update BIOS. Did you even look around to see what problems people have had with early BIOS versions? Fuck you I hate you so fucking much.
2: did you try the sticks individually? As in first stick A then stick B. If it works with stick A but not B then odds are stick B is byebye.
3: penguins are cute.

>>60374727
Avoid MSI Armor. Get their Gaming X instead (retarded gaming-name but it just werks). Armor is sucks.

>>60383953
>difference between Sapphire's and AMD's
wut?
There are no AMD manufactured graphics cards. They just supply the GPUs and reference spec.

>>60384128
agreed

>>60384128
My armpit 480 hits hard on of but i think i go lucky

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What does this mean?

Does it mean it has support for the APU, or that it's already in there?
Is it useful in any way if I already have a CPU and all that stuff?

The motherboard is an Asus Prime X370-Pro.

>>60383503
>>60383514
Just get a $50 used 23-24" 1080p monitor. They're all over the place. For WoW you might want a better CPU. Also that SSD is a meh/price IIRC - check userbenchmark.com

>>60383953
Get 3000MHz RAM. Spend less on the hard drive

after installing 2 fans at the top of case they started making a humming noise. if I press on the top of case the noise disappears. anything I can do to stop it? I used rubber screws

>>60384244
I inted to use the computer mainly for web browsing and light video editing, that's why I think the SSHD would be better for that. Why would I want that much ram anyways?

>>60381265
Holy fuck, how is there that much of a difference between the 970 and 960?

>>60381265
>>60384617
>960 below 950
Really makes you think

>>60384458
ryzen is better with high frequency ram

also why get sshd? just get either a small m.2 + hdd or small ssd + hdd for like 20 bucks more

>>60384641
Yeah I should've noticed that earlier. No way would those gpus eat shit this early

>>60384643
Ryzen dominates with any ram speed. Save money invest or save for Vega.

>>60384617
>Holy fuck, how is there that much of a difference between the 970 and 960?
Nvidia GPUs just completely shit themselves when they are VRAM starved. GCN does not.
BF1 at those settings uses a bit less than 3.5Gb so the 970 is fine.

>>60384715
Really dumb advice. Fast RAM cost an extra $10 and has a significant impact for all CPUs, whether Intel or AMD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qK7vFd
This is my first build, I still havent decided on the case and gpu yet.I havent bought the cpu,gpu and case.

>>60384826
Get faster RAM. Honestly, unless you're from some third world country where you don't have access to the latest components, not a great build

>>60378469
>stress tests aren't real tests!

If all drives are subjected to the same conditions, then the relative failure rates are probative.

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>>60377925
Expansive: related to *expand* which means to make bigger

Expensive: related to *expend* which means to use up, think "spend" and you won't forget

>>60378361
that's a fucking chassis thumbscrew, and motherboard standoffs go on the bottom

>>60384871
Stop being a bigga

>>60371897
I wanna fuck the dragon

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>>60385065
Clearly the previous thread was posted first.

You're too dumb to even follow board / common sense conventions

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