/pcbg/ - PC Building General

why do people even wait for vega? its gonna blow, amd do this every two years. Heck there last 5 years of cards have been rebrand after rebrand.

>>60343942
Because AMD prices a usually very good for their performance ratio

>>60343959
Not Vega, because HBM memory will make it expensive as fuck, thus the price/performance ratio will suck.

>>60343973
I have no expectation for it because AMD always disappoints with gpus but we'll just have to wait and see what the consumer report benchmarks have to say about it.

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Previous thread was shanghaied in order to try and flog off I3's, windows 10 and 3GB 1060's
boards.4chan.org/g/thread/60338189
Suspected that it was that cocksucker tripfag Jordan.
AKA Falcon, and "jordans laptop" in kanji
He has been caught blatantly shilling.
Beware the Jew.
>>60343942
If it doesn't totally flop it should force nVidia to lower prices.
But early tests on a low clocked engineering sample put it in 1070 to 1080Ti levels. Should clocks be good and drivers be worked on enough before release it may well be a excellent card.
Pricing will be what makes or breaks it. I was hoping for cheaper from the ryzen release, but who knows.

>>60343942
I will murder you with all my dreams and regrets!

>>60344062
And inevitable disappointment in Vega. From past knowledge always lower AMD benchmarks by 30% until it comes out to get a better picture of what they have.

>>60343942
Nvidia cards drop slightly in price. only reason to wait

Shit, can I replace an article with a similar one on amazon?

>>60344109
Did they ever? In response to AMD I mean. Everyone expected Intel to drop CPU prises as well with Ryzen out, but they didn't. They just don't give a fuck.

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>>60343973
>HBM memory will make it expensive as fuck
Not really. I remember seeing a chart on how expensive HBM is versus GDDR5 and the thing is HBM is only about 30% more expensive than GDDR5 and in example 8gb of GDDR5 vs HBM(2) cost difference is about 10 dollars max. The bigger problem is that there are not many fabs making HBM so the volume is smaller.

I just bought an old R7 240 for $20.

I will wait for a low-end Vega card if it can play every games at 720p@60 for $100.

>>60343973
>>60344158
AMD owns the patent to HBM. Sure they lease it for free. But I doubt the makers will fuck them over.

>>60344128
So I replaced an item with another (what the fucking MSI, selling 2 1060 with similar prices but one has a bigger bus thats not advertised?) but now I have 2 orders, can I combine them?

>>60344158
Is that 30% after they have finished making it and put them on a card? The problem isn't that not many manufacturers make HBM, the problem is that a lot less HBM memory comes out alright during the manufacturing process. There's a lof of faulty chips, which further increases the price.

Any good mATX mobos for Ryzen yet?

>>60344174
how can they patent something so blatently obvious?

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>>60344174
Guess why.

>>60344276
To lease it for free so some other (((company))) doesn't abuse the system.

>>60344292
>>60344276

>>60344146
We've had nvidia release cards at not ridiculous markups before and presumed it was AMD related but other than that, not in recent memory at least.
AMD has been forced to reduce their prices before though like when they were first to the market with the 28nm cards with the 7000 series except the geforce 600 series were way faster and more efficient to boot.

>>60344292
i love it, its like those 8 line losses but way better to look at. still patents are almost always a bs thing, kind of like how sony owns the patent to contact lense screens

Best free cloning software for HDD > SSD?

Where on /g/ are the dual boot experts?
I want both Windows 7 and Windows 10 on my computer, but I want Win 10 to be locked in his shithole without it being able to read the rest of my computer.
Is this possible? It's too specific to google it.

>>60344296
>Translators note: "(((company)))" means nvidia

>>60344466
I am also interested in this.
I'm also looking for a 5.25" hot swap bay to have the windows 10 drive in so it can not be in my computer until i need it

>>60344419
clonezilla

>>60344466
fglt but dont waste there time because you can google it. dual boot in what sort set up, and why do you want windows 10? just gaming? i cant think of any games that dont run on windows 7 8 8.1. Partition your drive, boot installation media, install to blank partition

>>60344567
wow thats a pretty pointless setup considering it wont be accessed until its booted in the first place. I knoow the set up you mean and it tends to require either a dedicated expansion bay or a case with it in build, only one that comes to mind is the level 10 gt and thats actually a pretty meh case these days. i think thermal take hp and """ibm"" make cases like this though

>>60344580
You need windows 10 for DX12.

6700k
Asus H170 Pro
1080ti Strix
G650 Seasonic
P400

Should I pull the trigger on this?
The rest of the parts I am scraping off my old PC.

>>60344580
Well I want a really clean looking windows 10 for all my work and legally bought games and adobe shit. I want to play some Microsoft games like Forza too, I'm pretty sure you need DX12 for them.
I also want it for the rare Steam games I end up supporting.
Would be nice if my family could access my computer whenever they want etc. It's also a future proofing question because I seriously doubt 7 will last forever.

Win7 would be for all my pirated things and hentai games and I don't want 10 to dig into that (inb4 7 does it anyway, I need to look into this too)
My googlefu is certainly weak I guess, because I have no leads.

>>60344611
>and it tends to require either a dedicated expansion bay or a case with it in build
Nah man, 5.25" ones are super common, they can go in nearly any case.

Upgraded from 2600 to 1600x yesterday.
Got 15-20 more fps in PUBG(the only thing I have at the moment) out of nowhere and it stopped stuttering.
Also it lags less, it's either thanks to intel ethernet(p67 old LAN probably aged) or servers got unfucked.
Magic.

On the side note do not trust HWInfo: it lies about temps, in my case it's 20C more than it really is.

my new pc is arriving tomorrow, how can i put windows 10 for free on it? Where do i download it? I am kinda new at this so please don't meme me

I know i need USB which i have

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>>60344811
http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=How+to+install+Windows+10

>>60344811
Just buy a cheap key from allkeyshop, that way you don't have to install shady hooks.

>>60344806
The X variants report an additional 20C for some reason.
>out of nowhere and it stopped stuttering.
>Also it lags less,
Stutter would be the upgrade. Lag depends on what you think lag is. Could be running the game shit, a bad network causing packet backup, or your ping.

>>60344954
i just want to install windows pro for starters (doesnt need to be valid), i can activate it later

>>60344981
download windows 10 installer, plug in usb, start windows 10 installer, select he usb, let it install the installer to the usb.

>>60344994
mind giving me legit site for downloading? by legit i mean not some shady site

>>60345032
windows/microsoft

>>60344631
whast games require dx12 with no alternative?

>>60344702
yes and fair, i just told you how to install it btw.

>>60344730
thats the one i meant, not expansion bay. was thinking of the ps2 or something.I considered a setup like this for debain and win 8 a while ago but didnt go though with it, instead just had both hdds in the case and used grub or whatever

>>60345032
https://www.microsoft.com/ru-ru/software-download/windows10

sure, here buddy.
to get licence for free there is still a method, install windwos 7 - use disability tools - upgrade for free
should still work, look it up

>>60345032
come on man, you gotta google this shit yourself, its so easy to find

>>60344981

go to microsoft website, make sure you have a 16gb USB, download the installer program.

Launch installer and it will ask you what you want to do, something like clean install or install but keep old files, but you would want to do complete clean installl, wait for that to say completed, then safely remove USB.

then in your new computer, when you turn it on click DEL repeatedly as soon as it boots up, to get into BIOS settings, make sure keyboard/mouse is plugged in so you can use it to navigate, then you will find an option called boot order/boot option something like that or atleast its that in MSI mobos.

make sure USB is connected

change boot device to so it boots from USB instead of HDD which is usually the default.

also make sure your HDD is connected, because once you choose to boot from USB, you will save and restart and it boot into the USB which has Windows 10 installer, dont turn off or do anything, sometimes will have a spinning wheel for 5 minutes, its doing what its gotta do, it will ask you where you want to install W10 choose your HDD or SDD.

then when its done your PC will restart and go back into the USB installer, dafuq?

you will have to cancel that and restart your PC, and press DEL DEL DEL again to get into BIOS, and change your boot order back to HDD/SDD, then save and restat, and bang you are loading into Windows 10

I have my budget is 1200$ what is a good build? This my first time building a pc so im kind of a noob. I dont really care about vr but i do want a good cpu as i want to use it for video editing. I may also be able to aquire a gtx 1080 for real cheap $300-400 ish

>>60344994
>>60345039
>>60345079
>>60345111
thanks you so much for the help, anons!

>>60342790 (You)
So does this look good for this application? Yes, I'm going to buy a better PSU, I'm not going to get exactly these parts since I'm in Europe but not in Britbongland and the 580 is much more expensive than the 480 here and costs less than the 1060. I'm mostly unsure on what case and mobo to get.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2hBKLD

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I need a 1080p @ 60fps build.

Ryzen 1600 + RX 570 ?

Will I be able to play Witcher 3 ?

>>60345270
Yes and yes

>>60345076
Gears of War 4, the latest Forza, and some other upcoming games.

>>60345270
Apparently that card averages 50.1 fps on the witcher 3 at that resolution.
Hence you'd need to fiddle with the game settings to get 60fps.

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Is now a good time to upgrade?

I'm only looking to upgrade the CPU and motherboard, since they're the only parts of my computer that haven't changed since 2012. How good's the R5 1600X as a processor? Going to be mainly for vidya

>>60345173
1440p build. If you find the monitor on sale for $400 (which happens like every month), it's only $100 over budget.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7dpT7h

>>60345270
>>60345320
Depends on the RX570 model. Some are 5% faster than others. And you can OC like another 10%.
If you OC and just drop one benign setting, then yeah.

>accidentally remove CPU heatsink whilst cleaning my rig
>temperatures went up by 10 degrees celsius

I'm guessing I fucked with the thermal paste under it and now I need to reapply some? Will 70% isopropyl alcohol wipes do the trick for removing the old paste? 99% literally costs ten times the price.

>>60345341
If it's for vidya, at most I'd reckon going up to a processor with a base 3.5 GHz would be reasonable.

You frankly don't need any more cores and if you did upgrade to that CPU you would need to buy new RAM.

>>60345350
Indeed, I saw other models benchmarked but they only saw improvements of 2-4 fps.

Then again there're probably many more models than I saw listed.

>>60345397
I want to switch to DDR4 regardless

>>60345430
Fair enough, then the improvement of 50 to 90 GHz seems reasonable then.

I doubt your current CPU is bottlenecking many games other than RTSs such as stellaris.

What's with the 570 recommendations lately?
580 skyrocket in price?

>>60345485
Which is one of the things I'd like to play. That and it's been getting hotter and hotter while idling even when I recently changed the cooler and a RAM slot on the motherboard is fucked, which is why there's only 8gb RAM.

>>60345508
A 3.5 GHz+ processor seems to be advisable then.

>>60345554
Think it'll last me as long as this one did?

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Whats your opinion on WD RED?

>>60344146
Nvidia and AMD are both constantly inching their prices down, and both ALWAYS drop their prices in response to new cards coming out(except when they've just released their own, obviously). Intel doesn't do that.,

>>60345620
>>60345341
Alright, so the R5 1600X and i5 7600K are going to cost me practically the same. For a computer that's mostly vidya for high intensity tasks, which is better?

>>60345303
so xbox ports? makes sense

>>60344158

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Does anyone know why my RAM speed is 1600mhz on my Ryzen build? I've tried loading XMP and setting it to 3200mhz manually.

X370 Taichi (BIOS 2.30)
1700x
F4-3200C14D-16GFX (A2 and B2 slots)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>>60345772
Your ram speed? Do you know how DDR works?

>>60345772
ok ok, this may come as some suprise (as i speak into your eyes).

ddr stands for double data rate

1600 x 2 = ????

Would buying an expensive rig make me happy?

>>60345825
No. You should probably kill yourself.

i need some help with memory OCing

I have 2 sticks of Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 but every time I try to use the default OC'd 3200 mhz preset it reboots 4 times and never boots

when I try everything on auto but set the freq. to anything but 2166MHz it reboots 4 times and tells me the OC failed

So the 3200mhz ram modules i bought refuse to run at anything higher than 2166MHz

I have an ASUS PRIME B350M-A mobo and a Ryzen 1600 but i dont think the cpu counts

if anyone could help me, thanks a bunch

>>60345270
>>60345422
4fps over 51fps is a lot. That's 8%.
Add another 10% OC and you are almost hitting 60.
With a 40-75hz Freesync monitor, it won't hurt not staying completely over 60fps all the time.

But if you need to stay 60+, then just dropping some benign setting will do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZsaavKNR8
Basically my favorite video right now. It's so fucking true.
I'm still playing on a 7970 which is like 55-65% the performance of an RX570, I think. I can run most at 60fps. I have to drop some setting sometimes, but the games still look good.
Some new and pretty games like For Honor I could even play maxed out.
When I got it, yeah I wanted to play games maxed because max settings often looked a lot better. Now days max settings is just shill shit to manipulate benchmarks and sell GPUs that no one needs and shouldn't really want sometimes.

That's also why I only trust reviews that test midrange cards at reasonable settings. Like hairworks off, or just on "very high" or something that looks the same maxed. Like Guru3d does.
I can swear I've seen some fucktards doing 16x MSAA in benchmarks.

>>60345723
Yeah. Microsoft published games. They're trying to push Win10 and so there is quite a large number of DX12 only games coming.

>>60345825
Maybe. I don't play games anymore but the 1600X excited me.
I'm more giddy touching the heatsink and feeling that it's cold to the touch than I have been from playing any of these garbage games they've been making the past few years.

>>60345772
i hate you fucking faggots that have more money than sense
i wish you bought a 7700k and were here posting "does anyone know why my CPU idles at 55C" instead

>>60345825
youll get more happiness out of building a new mid-high rig every few years.

>>60345874
i really hope it doesnt take off, and good thing its only xbox games so far. theres so many better cross platform apis

>>60345898
funny, you cant delid some cpus because theyre soldered on, but intel........................

>>60345688
Anyone?
i5 7600K looks like it has higher frequency

is every shutterstock technology picture designed specifically to send me into a blind rage?

>>60345945
...cares more about saving a few fractions of a cent per CPU than thermals.

>>60345959
frequency hasnt mattered in ages, otherwise the fx8350 would be a god (see oc to 6ghz and 8.7 on helium).

>>60346023
What's so good about the R5 1600K anyway?

>>60346023

>32nm vs 14nm

>>60346059
It performs like i7 6800k at a much lower price.

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Building this for vidya and general use. I'm still deciding on a a gpu and cooler because I'm a little skeptical of Asus ( Bad costomer service and faulty hardware) and I really don't know much about coolers. Any advice would be great.

>>60345873

A few questions.

Are you using XMP?
What PSU do you have?
How many gb per stick?

>1070 is overkill for 1080p
>It can't even run DX MD, Dishonored 2 or Ghost Recon at 60fps
LOL

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>>60345959
the 7600k will cost more to delid and cool it.
And the 1600X is better.
4 threads is GARBAGE even for games.

The 7600k will get better average FPS in 5 year old games and shit. Games that the 1600X is plenty powerful to do 60fps+ in anyway, so it doesn't matter.
The 1600X will do better in newer, more highly straining games that actually need a properly powerful CPU. And it'll get better minimums just in general.

>>60346075
>Meme:The Build

Hope you get some firefighters with your cpu

>>60345688
1600X for a long run.

>>60346075
read the OP

>>60346075

I'm using their VIII Hero motherboard and I can tell you this from personal experience. The motherboard is flashy, but fantastic. No GPU sag, no overclocking issues, easy to read LED indicators for any bad codes, and lots of plugs for fans and USB headers.

A lot of people think it's overpriced and whatever, but I didn't realize PC building and overclocking would be this easy. In their manual they go over how to overclock step by step, and how to overclock RAM, and if you need to flash the BIOS for Coffee Lake, Asus's flagship boards allow you to do that without a CPU installed.

I'd rate it 9/10, just marking it down 1 for all the flak I get.

>>60346086
>3 shittily optimized games LOL. Only 1 of which anyone actually likes.
>Prey just came out and does a solid 90+fps on a 1060 or RX580. Looks and plays better than that GR Wildlands garbage.
driver updates have greatly improved things for some of those, too

>>60345873
Can your mobo set Command rate to T2?
For now most mibis are trying to go with T1 but the ram wants T2, T2 allows higher clocks.

Bios update is coming within a few days anyway, they said its gonna fix ALL Ram issues and even the cheap ass Hymx ram gonn clock high.

Refurbished Xeon E5-1650 desktops for sale.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5YV4ZT5210&ignorebbr=1
$380. Original price was $3000.
6 core, 3.2/3.8GHz. 8Gb of RAM.

These are old. Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge, I think. Even a 5820k would be better, but it's a complete system.

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>>60346080
when I try to run the XMP profile it fails every time

550W old chieftec but it never had issues, not even with the R9 280X and FX6350 i had

8gb / stick and 2 sticks

>>60346176
didn't check yet, but after googling it i think it has no option for that?!

source on bios update?

thanks a lot for the answers

>>60345270
if you force x8 / x16 tesselation in drivers instead of retarded x64, yes

>>60346284

Coming from experience, my issue was the PSU. It was an old Corsair 650w Bronze and it was shitting the bed on RAM OC. Bought a new EVGA 650w Gold and my ddr4-3000 had zero issues.

>>60346064
even at the time you moron, the frequency made no difference.

>>60346059
high performance low cost.

>>60346086
1080p is still improving honestly. Like if they said titan is god of 1080p but now here we are 5 years on

>>60345772
3200 is the effective speed, but the actual frequency is 1600
aka there's nothing wrong with your ram speed

>>60346309

>titan is still god of 1080p if you have a monitor that can handle 200fps.

>>60346309

The frequency would make a difference if you compared it against other 32nm chips.

>>60345959
>like it has higher frequency
The 7600k hits 90+% usage very frequently in any aaa games from the past 3 years, and has two less cores.
R5 1600 is a no brainer.

>>60346059
SIX CORES VERSUS FOUR
90+% CPU USAGE VERSUS 50%

>>60346284
>source on bios update?
>thanks a lot for the answers
http://digiworthy.com/2017/03/21/ryzen-system-crashes-fix/

>>60346378
i don't want to be a killjoy but that was 2 months ago

>>60346368
thats what im talking about, they had to pump it so high even to compete with other 32nm processors and it didnt even outperform them.

>>60346389
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/30/amd-ryzen-community-update-2
We will continue to update you on future AGESA releases when they’re complete, and we’re already working hard to bring you a May release that focuses on overclocked DDR4 memory.

>>60346337
Thank you. My first build.

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How does this look for a racing sim and gaming PC?

>>60346433
thanks man, love you

>>60346447
Looks like meme.

>>60346467

:( What's bad about meme?

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>>60343887


can somone pls tell which amd cpu will have what I need?

>>60346447
well this >>60346467 is my thought exactly. Its subtle trolling that always gets (yous)

>>60346447
>How does this look for a racing sim and gaming PC?
Overkill. You don't get a i7, $120 watercooler, $200 mobo, 3000Mhz memory, an M2 ssd and a GTX 1080 for simple racing sims and gaming

>>60346447
does the $125 AIO make your cars go faster?

Man. $2360 and you only have a 275GB SSD.
Also
>2560x1080 ultrashort monitor
The other poster is right. There is so much meme all rolled up in one PC. All you're missing is RGB.

>>60346490
all of them, im not sure of the case on ryzen but if you are using the android sdk and api its better used on linux when using an fx chip due to an instruction set thats only supported on linux or something like that.

>>60346510

What do you get them for?

>>60346490
Idk what SVM is.
VT-x is Intel's virtualization. AMD has AMD-v.
You should ask people on forums for that if Ryzen supports it what it needs and if the error is just bad.

>>60346529
What do you get them for?
This was answered already with >>60346467
>memes

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>>60346516

This is what I'd eventually like to have.

And a lot of the people with that AIO have good results with overclocking the 6700k...

>>60346529
Very specific content creation + best possible overclock, so not what you are doing
What games in particular are you gonna play? What (non-games) software do you use?

>>60346447
Just go with a 7700k if you're gonna spend that much. Alternatively don't be a retard and go for Ryzen 1600 + asus x370 prime mobo. Also drop the meme AOI and the HDD, then get a 500+GB ssd and maybe a 1080 Ti.

What hardware is needed these days to watch VR porn?

>>60346584

>7700k
>500gb SSD
>1080ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZZpnn
>$2621

Um...I don't see what you're getting at, or why I should spend $300 more.

Building this in about a month, just need two more paychecks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hq6k7h

>buying amd
>ever

>>60346637
>didn't change to a 1600X
>didn't change to a $35 cooler since that's all a 1600X needs
>REEEE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE
He's saying you could get a much better GPU and SSD if you saved on the CPU/motherboard/cooler.

>>60346642
>$1300 for 4 threads
read the OP.

>>60346689
Better than buying Inlel.

>>60346637
>Alternatively

>>60346642
i dont understand how there are people putting 7600ks in their build when even reddit never recommends to do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

Look at that CPU usage

>>60343887
is gamer nexus reliable for gpu reviews

>>60346637
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZZpnn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>60346769
wups
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7Rcr7

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>>60346769

>>60346642
Just don't forget that ryzen downgrades your gpu

Anons on cyka blyat board compare their set ups:
7700k+GTX1070 gives higher fps than [email protected]+GTX1080.
Ryzen is simply not enough to utilize full potential of 1080 - it downgrades it to 1070 level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY9xghPy-uQ&feature=youtu.be [Embed] [Embed]

Vega will be same shit, losing to 1080 and anons here will cry that it is not for gaiming but for those 2 muh graphics professionals.

Also, it was later found on the same board that ryzen doesn't give you fps higher than 100 even if you set everything to minimum. Infinity fabric is a huge bottleneck, thus ryzen is simply unable to give high fps on any system.

>>60346490
You should buy a cheap Android device instead for using emulator.

>>60346830
Гocпoди, дa yeби ты yжe oтcюдa нaхyй, шизик.

>>60343887
Is the G4560 iGPU fine for Overwatch in 1080p?

>>60346843
No.

If you ever hope to have more than 100 fps - don't buy ryzen. It is that simple.

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>>60346830
>witcher works worse with novideo cards
woah! sure ryzen is the reason here!

>>60346880
Great "independent youtuber with 10k subs" benchmarks you have there.

Meanwhile in reality anons with 7700k and 1070 have higher fps than [email protected] with 1080
>>60346830

>>60346880

>those impossible to read graph

Those people need to stop using this retarded representation

Hoping this is the right place to ask
I think my RAM is too slow. I searched around a bit to find out the impact RAM bandwidth has on performance, but all the tests had 1,333MHz as their lowest speed tested.
I have 3 slots with 4GB at 600MHz and one slot with 4GB at 800MHz. I thought I was being clever when I built the machine and went for budget Chinese RAM... did I fuck up /g/

>>60346908
Хвaтит cpaть этим здecь, твoй aнглийcкий тeбя выдaeт.

>>60346843
Yes, stable at 3fps

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>>60346880
Ryzen stands for stutter

>>60346908
Meanwhile in reality 7700K dips to 5fps in GTAV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswrFCb5sMQ

>>60346830
stop shitposting

>>60346946
>4K (((gaming))) monitor with Goyim-Sync @3Hz.

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>>60346959
Ryzen is awful for gayming. Ryzen is unable to produce 60 fps in any modern mmo in raids.

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>>60346952

>>60346921
600... 800... is this fucking DDR2?

>>60346830
shill go home

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I was about to ask something, but I think I'm gonna wait till tomorrow.

>>60346921
Dual channel mobo. Make sure you have the fast ram in one channel, the slow in another. Should slow be mixed with fast in one you system will down clock to the sower speed. Leaving that one stick of faster ram alone.
Not sure if that works like that. But try it. Don't forget to clear Cmos.
>which slots are each channel?
Refer to your manual/google
>Cmos??
Refer to your manual/google. Should be two pins that you bridge when the system id off and unplugged.

>>60346997
>Ryzen is unable to produce 60 fps in any modern mmo in raids
Except in real world i7 stutters while Ryzen's running smooth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcCqnE5mRw

>>60346752
They are tryhards yet morons.

They're like those redditors that make 20,000 character longer posts about how smart they are but don't know what they're talking about. But they convince others they do.
>http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel/Page-3
A prime example where they did a single channel vs dual channel """""""test""""" but they are so fucking incompetant that they either didn't realize they RAM they used was dual rank, or even worse: they don't understand how dual rank invalidates their test. Frankly, I'm guessing the later.

>>60346908
How... stupid are you? How stupid are you to completely miss the point that the Nvidia GPU is causing those problems? It's fine with an AMD GPU.

>>60347036
smooth 20 fps in 12 years old wow. I guess this is the power of amd.
>>60347055
Muh ebil nvidia. So what that it all works way better with 8 thread intel. It's all nvidia's fault that ryzen is pile of shit for gayming! WAIT FOR VEGA that will perform like a year old 1070

>>60347104
Back to sosach pls. Stop shitting this thread.

>>60346880
>>60346952
Perspective bias. Clearly chops off the graph to hide a 100+ms stutter.

>>60346997
Both are under 25ms That's well within normal. 80+ is indicative of stutter. And in Intel's case these can hit upwards of 200.

Stop shilling please I beg you guys.

>>60347121
>Perspective bias
INITIATE MANEUVER THRUSTERS

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>>60347009
whatchu want ding dong

>>60347161
(You).

>>60347161
You don't understand what you looking at. That's the problem.

>>60347196
He's fucking Russian. What did you expect?

>>60347165

Nah, its fine.
The thread seem pretty fucked right now, I'm gonna wait while posting in another forum and compare both answer later tomorrow.

>>60347235
If you want a 'good' answer i'd wait until after dinner eastern time

>>60347192
Thanks, I am doing it for (You).
>>60347196
>No, you don't understand! It might look like ryzen has performance worse than a 3 year old intel, but in reality we have a 100 page list of reasons and excuses for why it is so.

>>60346997
wait so ryzen barely cracks the 20fps mark?

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>>60347008
667MHz, my bad. Somehow DDR3

>>60347013
My current mobo is an ASRock B75 Pro3-M, I don't really want to replace it if I can avoid it - at least not until the i7 3770 becomes obsolete. I'll see about removing one of the 667MHz sticks in the other channel, but wouldn't it just be easier long-term to buy faster RAM? Would I notice a big difference between one channel going from 8GB 667MHz to 4GB 800MHz compared with just upgrading all my sticks to 4GB 1,600 MHz?

>>60347250
Okay but stop shitting this thread and get back to sosach.

>>60347272
That's frametime, not FPS. So the worst stutters are still 40fps.

>>60347289
Buy 2x4Gb@1600mhz and you will be fine for at least 3 years more.

Just in case someone here wanted to buy ryzen to play one of the most popular recent games PUBG - here is what you can expect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogoRQY3waJ4
30-50fps on 1080p.

>>60347036
I'm glad I fell for the meme

>>60347289
Oh. you have 4 sticks.
Remove the slow one. Get a new one that matches the rest. Assuming those cas latency's are screwy because of the slow stick...
You didn't buy four different sticks. did you?
You could have timing differences if you did.

>>60347396
>PUBG
disgusting

at least shill with a more popular game and not the flavor of the week

Huh, is there any wifi adapters that plugs to Ethernet?

>>60347396
>70-80fps average in his last week video
Looks good, thanks senpai.

>>60347559
The list is pretty long: arma, dayz, h1z1, ksp, any mmo, csgo, dota, hots, starcraft, etc.
>>60347582
No problem, man. It is just that drops to 15 fps and 30 fps in combat is not for everyone. But if you are used to it with your fx, you will enjoy ryzen.

>Need to build a computer from scratch ie no old recyclable parts from old computers
>Only have ~£600
>Already over that amount
>Have no case, no keyboard, no mouse or psu

I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Am I just memeing myself at this point? I'm even planning on using my tv as a monitor ;_; I'll only be using it for photo editing and gaming, but the games aren't really graphics heavy anyway (with the odd exception) because they're more strategy based. I could build something to do that for £600, right?

>>60347623
You're not even trying anymore. Also your English is shit, Rajeet.

>>60347640
>I could build something to do that for £600, right?
assuming that inflation of prices isn't a problem there, most certainly
cheap out on the mouse/keyboard so that you can get better ones down the road and be able to afford better parts

>>60347640
Let's begin with buying a Pentium G4560, 2x4GB RAM.

>>60347623

There was no drop lower than 40 in his latest video, so I don't know what are you talking about.

>>60347640
Keep an eye on ebay for monitors. There's chink shit mouse keyboard combo's for < $30AUD
Make sure you're not adding a sound card.
Try an R5 1500X and a 480 4gb/570 4gb
Again look for a chink shit case.
PSU should be 500-550W

So I want to move to Ryzen. Can I just switch out the motherboard and CPU of my current computer, then let my Windows 7 install repair itself?

>>60347721
>30 fps on console kek
>40 fps on ryzen are excellent, ryzen is a great choice. Feels smooth and responsive!
I really like how the agenda shifts with the brand new need to defend ryzen shit performance.

>>60347782
Fresh install would be better to get rid of old drivers and such.
You will have to manually download updates or patch the updater since Microsoft doesn't want people to use Win7 on new PCs.

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>>60346997
Into the oven you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypkqwpOtNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcCqnE5mRw&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswrFCb5sMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuQu-y0GnPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11NfsMykyAk

>>60347681
I'm trying to cut corners where I can. I'm not too fussed on a keyboard and mouse (as in top end) just yet as long as I have the computer built because anything is better than what I'm currently using.

>>60347738
Based. Thanks a lot I'll check that out now. Is it worth paying the extra £20 or so for the R5 1600 or will the 1500x be fine?

>>60347836
I really don't want to do a fresh install though

>>60347803
I never said anything that you quote.
I'm just saying that don't see any drop to15-30fps in the latest video.

>>60343887
Oh look it's /g/ recommends AMD everything thread.

Hm. What's the better choice: a good 1070 (Gainward Phoenix GS), or 50 eurodollars more for a cheap 1080 (KFA, ugly ass leds on 'em and I don't know if they're loud/hot etc)

>>60347909
You mean just like any other thread?

>>60347909
>G4560 for budget builds (<$500) unless G4620/i3-7100 is heavily discounted
>i7-7700k is bad value but good; may have heat issues even at stock clocks
>R7/Xeon for compute/multitask/mixed use. R5 if budget

>>60347925
Isn't KFA the same as Galax? Get that. They're a great maker.

>>60347909

We recommended both depend on people budget.
I don't know why you so autistic about this.

>>60347854
Worth it. Another two cores. Give greater flexibility to run shit in the background, better upgrade paths for GPU's in future. Not that you couldn't slap a 1080 on a 1500. And longer longevity in general.
I got my Acer 24" 1080p 60Hz for $170 on ebay.
But check local catalogs for deals. Often see screens for under $150 in Aus.

Is the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK a decent board worth considering even with its 10+sec post times?

>>60347970
Because it's like people don't even use these computers to their full potential. They just ignore all the driver issues and compatibility problems. Who wants to wait 2 months to play a game because AMD has no drivers. Massive CPU overhead for GPU drivers? Who cares because I just play LoL anyways lmao.

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What's the minimum I need for an SQL and HTML server for home use (4 clients at most)?

>>60347925
Cheap 1080.

It's the same in America. You have some expensive ass 1070s for $425 when you can get a 1080 for $420-$460. It makes no sense to pay so much for a 1070. I don't know who buys that shit.

>>60347854
Well most newer games will use the 6 cores fine. Like BF1. Heck even Crysis 3 does, which came out forever ago.
But if all you need is 60fps and decent productivity, the 1500X is an ideal CPU and there isn't much point in spending the extra for something you won't use.
You could always upgrade later, too, since AM4 will be around for a while.

>>60348006
You should be used to waiting anyways.

>>60348006
yes, it's a great board

>>60347957
no idea desu

one of my gripes is that I can't find any info on whether I'd be able to turn off the hideous led bullshit.
I know people like their windowed cases and their bling, but personally I can't stand it

>>60348045
If you don't have a windowed case then why do you care if it has led's?

>>60348023

Wut? so if people ask for $600 rig for light gaming and I recommend them Pentium G I should blame AMD?
You doesn't make any sense.

So I'm looking for some good ram for ryzen to reach those 3000mhz and when googling I seem to only find like 2 month old threads and responses. I know since then bios improved a lot so that's why I'm asking here if anyone knows which ram is good?

>>60348027
Rasberry pi. one of their latest ones.

>>60348027
idk like some old $150 refurbished machine?

>>60348040
kek

>>60348078
qualified vendors list for the motherboard of your choice.

>>60348058
I just can't stand it

doesn't matter though, the kfa software thankfully has the option to turn them off.

Trying to find reviews specifically speaking to heat and noise though

>>60346843
see for youself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At3Xo3viF2o

>>60347979
Thanks a lot fella. I think I'll just along that route and then update as and when I need to. I'll still be keeping my eye open for a monitor and anything else I'll be needing though if I think it's going to be worth it.

>>60348038
I get what you're saying, it's just for the sake of it only being £20 and I could have it there should I need it. If there was a pretty big difference in price like £50 or more I don't think I would bother.

>>60348074
>I recommend them Pentium G

Sorry for ignoring you dude I thought you were memeing me.

>>60348193
>recommend people either AMD or Intel depend on their budget
>its meme
This board poster is already fucked beyond believed.

Who else here
>waiting fie rx560 reviews
?

>>60348166
wow it does, but can it render stuff for hanzo (like his ult) properly? i ask as a hanzo main

>>60348275
dunno ask the dude who made the video.

Pentium G5560 3c/6t for $90 when?

Is ram module pairing a thing anymore? i remember it was kinda big in the ddr3 days where youd buy ram made together for speed or something

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For Gaming and editing stuff on the side, I want to make sure I can consistently run games well and keep things cool. I'm thinking about going for a cheaper version of the gpu. The case is a meme but I love memes

I'm looking at videos on how to install Ryzen CPUs and I'm confused. It seems the motherboards come with a retention module for clip based heatsinks but the official AMD Wraith cooler just uses screws from videos I've seen. So you actually have to remove the retention module from the motherboard before installing. Why would they do this?

>>60348520
Do you like glossy monitors?

>>60348520
Monitor is too small for 1440p. At 23-25" get 1080p. 1440p is for 27" and above

>>60348590
Yeah kinda. They just look nice to me

>>60343887
>Non Shill OP
How to detect retards: they scream shill all the time.

>>60344026
Pretty funny. I bet you believe in pizzagate too

>>60348663
if you are pushing hard your opinions into the OP without discussing it's modification beforehand with the thread users, you are indeed a shill

>>60348631
What monitors would you recommend?

>>60348472
It's still best to use RAM sets as opposed to mismatching RAM, and as always, if you use different kinds of RAM, it'll run at the lowest speed and worst timings.

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>>60348689
I did. I posted the pcbg pcpartpicker in a previous thread and asked for commentary. You're stupid for assuming I didn't, aren't you? Anyway my "opinions" are better than yours.

>1060 - Gets outperformed by the RX 580; consider only if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA)
Flat out fucking wrong. They're basically equal in both absolute performance and price/perf

YOU, yes YOU are the fanboi here. In the pcbg pcpartpicker, I recommend the 570 and state that either the 4GB 580 or 6GB 1060 are acceptable substitutions. I, yes I give users options while you exaggerate and "shill" for fucking free

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RtsT7h
Building a pc for gaming and some big computations in Matlab. I don't play a lot of new games but it would be nice to run the Souls series and Nier automata etc well.

>>60348086
So if I have one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BbDYBP
I should be able to host more than one server on it without an issue, right?
I might be able to consolidate eight different severs into a single box

>>60348883
why are you being so emotional about hardware?

>>60348883
>I posted the pcbg pcpartpicker in a previous thread
I3's and 1050ti's. For use in VR.
You're in no mental capacity to recommend hardware.

>>60348959
>i5
try again

>>60348580
What video are you looking at? Hopefully it's not too hard to remove it

I can get a 1600x for 223 dollydoos right now, should i get it?

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Hello /g
Here mine =)

>>60348248
I'm waiting cause I wanna see people that paid $150 for 1050Ti get megacucked.

>>60348520
>500GB 960 Evo
for what reason?
Gt a 1TB or 2TB 850 Evo and get the smallest size NVMe, 128GB I guess, for scratch disk.

>>60348631
24" is perfect DPI for 1440p. 27" is for 4k with 1.5x DPI scaling.

>>60349251
Ya son. I took basically the same deal since I wanted a dif cooler than stock anyway.
They really should have priced them that way to begin with. 1700X should have been the same $330 but just not included the cooler that's worth like $20. 1600X should have been the same as the 1600.

>>60349278
2 10core or 1 20core?
Looks comfy.
Too bad you're so shit at computer that you took a picture of your screen.

>>60349037
Please refrain from posting "u mad????" comments. Anyway idiots like the NEET who patrols this thread in an attempt to derive some meaning or satisfaction from his worthless life annoys me.

>>60349058
Those are Oculus minimum specs, not mine.

>>60348580
That clip is the for the Wraith Max cooler.
It appears to be OEM but i hear that AMD may sell them soon as well.

>>60348883
Outdated list, bud. Doesn't even include the RX580.
Seriously, how dumb are you that you can't see it says RX480 and not RX580 on YOUR OWN FUCKING PICTURE?

>>60348984
On different ports, sure, why not?
You could do 8, yes. Even more if your virtualization can split threads.

>>60349251
where

>>60349361
>Those are Oculus minimum specs, not mine.
For things that barely constitute a Wii game. You did it deliberately, and knowingly to trick users to buying poor preforming hardware.

>>60349361
Whatever your opinion is, if you need to throw a tantrum to state it, it's worthless

>>60349410
> You did it deliberately, and knowingly to trick users to buying poor preforming hardware.
This is key.
There are a few posters on /g/ that deliberately try to get people to buy bad hardware because they want to see their buyer's remorse posts later.
They want to see people blaming /g/ for their computer being ass compared to their friend's and shit.
People like >>60348883

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Guys I got the GTX 1050ti SSC EVGA from Amazon for $113.
Now that the RX 560 is coming soon and I use a freesync monitor, should I cancel the order (hasn't shipped yet).

I really don't know because this 1050ti is for my prebuilt and I am wondering if the 560 will have higher power intake than the 1050t, plus performance difference of course.
Thoughts? The order ships May 15th.

>>60349316
2x CPU with 10
its very comfy
i have delete all program that could take screen shot, so just can take photo, sory for bad quality

>>60349370
>Seriously, how dumb are you that you can't see it says RX480 and not RX580
And? The RX 580 is a tiny stock OC from the 480. That's why I said that the 6GB 1060 and the 580 are "about equal." Additionally the 580 and 480 have the same price/perf, retard.

>>60349410
>You did it deliberately, and knowingly to trick users to buying poor preforming hardware.
>>60349435
>There are a few posters on /g/ that deliberately try to get people to buy bad hardware because they want to see their buyer's remorse posts later.

Take your conspiracy theories to /pol/, shithead(s)

>>60349446
560 will be weaker than the 1050ti so no.

>>60349446
Check your PSU. What wattage, does it have a six? pin connector on it?
1050's draw power from the pcie lane. RX's draw from the PSU.
To use a RX you may need a new PSU.

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>>60349446
Maybe. The RX560 has more CUs than the RX460 and should be roughly equivalent to the 1050Ti. Should be about 25-30% faster than the RX460, that is. It should also be $100-$120 (I'm hearing 90eur from some)
Since both are GPUs that aren't going to hit a solid 60 on every game at higher settings, Freesync will be very useful.
I am not sure if it will require a 6pin or not. I would imagine there will be some models that do, and some that don't.

>>60349470
>And?

Is getting a gtx 1070 for $300 a good deal?

>>60349486
>>60349446
Just checked
There are 1050's thet'll require a six pin.
My bad.

>>60349446
hell fucking yes
freesync is a godsend when under 60fps

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>Purpose of PC: vidya gaeming (haven't had a decent viddy gam rig in like.. 14 years now maybe more)
>Budget: $1500 (already have case+cooler)
Blah blah 144hz@1080p (why go higher than 1080? useless) game's mostly going to be Quake 3 and some new shit like R6S to play with my buddies

I AM seeking build improvements, though. Improved price, mainly. Here's my list (I took someone else's build... can't recall if I modified it though!)
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/ecronogist/saved/YBzcf7

Looking to:
-- Maybe change RAM to 32GB (video editing, running high intensity server software)
-- Drop the price of the SSD maybe, probably not going to touch the PSU

Thoughts? Criticisms? I want to know if I'm falling for any memes, but the i5 6500 appears to be a very well-liked moderate CPU (and thats what matters honestly, I'm not looking to push graphics, just actually run the games at lowest graphics)

>>60349480
Thought so.
>>60349486
240w so and from the pcie lane. I dug around and saw Gamer Nexus's review of it today and the 560 only won in Doom with Vulcan/DX 12.
Seems that for the moment since I use DX 11 W7, the 1050ti is better for me.
However I've never used Freesync and I wonder how my gaming will be without it with the Nvidia GPU..
>>60349516
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2908-sapphire-rx-560-pulse-oc-review-vs-gtx-1050/page-4

Here is a page I found.

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>>60349649
>i5-6500

>>60349675
If you are going to make a post, at least clarify what your intentions are instead of being a dunce thank u god bless :~]

>>60349649
see >>60349228

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I calculated my R5 1600 with a few overclock + 1060 6gb can hit around 80% of my 550W PSU under load, is this normal?
I got tricked by PartPicker, it had estimated only 240W from the parts, but that's not at all what those 2 consume under load. Fucking hell

>>60347623
whoa, lots of games which can barely use 2 threads properly

>>60349700
You didn't say anything other than "try again."
Give advice, you bloated waste of space, not mindless banter without any reason.

>>60349649
Get this CPU instead
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/mV98TW/amd-ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbaebox
2 more cores, higher clocked, 8 more threads
The CPU coolerisn't needed at all, neither is the thermal compound though it's always handy to have.
Much better at video editing / encoding than this i5 is, and it doesn't reach near 100% load during AAA gaming while the i5 does

Any suggestions on monitors? I have around $300 to spend. 4k seems like a meme in the year 2017. Maybe dual 1080p?

>>60349731
read the op you fucking mongoloid

>>60349597
>>60349480
>>60349583
>>60349516
Getting mixed responses?

>>60349713
what? they consume less, 550 is fine

>>60349713
Are you actually worried about an R5 1600 + 1060 on a 550w GPU?
I'm running an R7 1700 oc'd to 3.7GHz with a R9 280 (uses more than DOUBLE what your card uses) overclocked to 1050/1500, plus 6 hard drives
And that's on a 500w PSU

you have plenty of room left.

Is there any disadvantage in using external optical drive instead of one which goes into case? Probably a stupid question but is it possible to install OS ouf of external optical drive?

>>60349713
PCpartpicker's PSU calculator is flawed, since it goes on TDP wattage and not true wattage. Just because the 1600 is a 65W TDP silicon does NOT mean that it will draw 65W on its own. I think the 1600X draws about 80W with 90% utilization at stock frequencies and XFR turned off. Most of the extra power draw comes from the chipset on the motherboard, draw from each stick of RAM installed, the GPU (against, don't use TDP wattages), each drive, and fans.

>>60349757
>>60349774
Ok, thanks.

>>60349516
So your pic says that you're agreeing with me, right? The 580 and the 1060 are "basically equal"

>>60345270
Just bite the bullet and get a 580.

>>60349742
>"no i5" tacked at the end of one of the lines
Again, you haven't fucking explained anything. Kill yourself for wasting my time.
>>60349733
I have had many people tell me I should go for Ryzen. (To be honest, I hope I won't, because I've told one of my friends I wouldn't since he kept memeing really hard at me to do it because "its the best thing ever" and it pissed me off.)
Though, I'm feeling not so sure if Ryzen is best. It's new, right? Does it have any issues that have been brought to attention? If it's fresh, it cannot have been thoroughly evaluated by a hell of a lot of people over a shit ton of use cases, right?
My main concern is for everything to "justwerks" with the components. No booting up a game and having it drop below 144fps at any time. (exceptions being 60fps/120fps locked games of course)

But the video editing - it IS better, the Ryzen, for that? I'm most likely going to be using the typical encoding with OBS for recording. Will I be able to record 1080p@120/100fps consistently with no hangs?

>>60349695
>144hz@1080p
>video editing, running high intensity server software
It's a fucking 4c/4t locked CPU for fuck's sake.

>>60349790
Yeah I doubted something like this was happening with their calculator, which is why I jumped to conclusions, I just got the wrong numbers after all.
I'll definitely be more careful next time though.

How much better value is a g4620 versus a g4560 for single-threaded CPU heavy games, namely TF2?
I can't find any benchmarks using the g4620, only the g4560.

can someone recommend me a build? Mainly used for audio production and some light gaming, mostly emulators so nothing GPU intensive at all.
£800 budget but I can go over

>>60349855
To explain, I meant single threaded server software, since that's pretty intense for one core. Don't ask what software it is, because I admit it's bad, however I require it

How can I make a PC ransomware proof?
Asking for a friend.

So my cousin wants me to build him a computer for basic web design and programming on a somewhat low budget. He specifically wants to be able to use Photoshop and Dreamweaver, so I'm wondering if I should skimp out on parts to buy a Windows license or if I should go all out and install Ubuntu/Mint. Which would be preferable?

http://www.ebay.com/sme/refurbforless/Save-with-everyday-low-prices/so.html?_soffid=100&_sccid=175673&_soffType=SaleAndClearence&_seedid=272635263053&_trksid=p2047675.m3794


Guys wtf, is this legit?

>>60349891
dont plug in your Ethernet cable

>>60349446
>>60349662
Yeah, we're not sure dude. Looks like you'd need a new PSU for both options.
460 wants 350W
1050Ti wants 300W

>>60349912
If you build him a PC using older parts, like skylake or older CPUs, then you can probably install a pirated version of windows 7 for free.

And then maybe down the line when he gets more money, buy him a real Windows license.

WHERE DO YOU GUYS BUY USED PARTS FROM

Ebay reliable?

>>60349912
Just pirate Windows

>>60349888
It's dogshit, get the 1600

>>60349974
>>60349977
I wouldn't mind used parts but I'm not sure how he would feel about pirated Windows because he takes the 'thou shalt not steal' from the bible very literally. I guess I could ask him about that before I decide on an OS.

>>60349912
Ask a local college student to get their free Windows 10 key from dreamworks and buy them a case of beer. ive legit done this

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>>60349853
>But the video editing - it IS better, the Ryzen, for that?
Look at this picture.
In red, the R5 1600: $230, 6 cores 12 threads, clocked at 3.6GHz (boost, goes lower than that usually unless you have an aftermarket cooler).
In blue, current best gaming cpu, current best quadcore cpu: i7 7700k: $325, requires $30 cooler at least, $150 motherboard at least, heats a fuck ton, 4 cores 8 threads. Clocked at four point fucking five GHz. Miles ahead of the shitty i5 you picked
In green, an i5 7600: $210~, clocked 200mhz higher than the cpu you picked.

This chart represent x264 performance, the numbers are how much FPS do the CPUs encode at. The conclusion is easy to draw.

>I've told one of my friends I wouldn't since he kept memeing really hard at me to do it because "its the best thing ever" and it pissed me off.)
We're here to advice you on what parts are good for you, not help your social interactions. If you want to get bad hardware just to show off to your friends how stupid you are then you are free to do so.

>>60350028
then use linux

>>60349853
are you seriously that fucking retarded?

"no i5" because they are shit and obsolete since ryzen came out. that's it, what is there to explain? 6/12 is MUCH better value than 4/4.
your friend gave you a good advice and you ignored him instead of actually doing research and checking if it's really that good (spoiler: it's currently the best value cpu). faggot

>>60350031
dreamspark*

>>60349913
the fuck

>>60349912
Don't even need a key for windows. YouTube how to put up wall paper no key windows/ how to stop task bar force windows.
All you'll have is a watermark bottom right of wallpaper, and a small popup when you open shit like paint. Doesn't stop you from using it either.
May have to wait till those things start happening till you can change settings.

>>60350028
Tell him that it's not stealing, say that he is just "borrowing" it until he has the money to buy it.

>>60350079
Win 7* that is.

>>60350040
My 7700k hardly ever hits 70c with a 45 dollar cooler and cheap Noctuas paste. 4.8ghz at 1.2V

When will the heat lie die?

>>60350040
Alright, I guess I'll buy Ryzen then
I'll be mildly upset if it doesn't work out for me, but there's no other way for me to be sure. Whatever

>>60349913
someone answer. where do these ship from. are they used?

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>>60350102

>>60349853
>It's new, right?
Yes, it's a completely new architecture.

>Does it have any issues that have been brought to attention?
RAM frequency issues (has trouble reaching high clocks)

>If it's fresh, it cannot have been thoroughly evaluated by a hell of a lot of people over a shit ton of use cases, right?
Yes, it has been reviewed for a fuck ton lots of cases.

>No booting up a game and having it drop below 144fps at any time
Then don't get an i5 lol

>>60350028
See
>>60350079
It's not stealing if those functions are built in.

>>60350133
Condition: Manufacturer refurbished

>>60349961
I know but I just have one final question.
Is Freesync noticeable and worth it when let's say, comparing the RX 460 and 1050ti?
Or should I just keep with the 1050ti and get higher frames with no freesync?

Hi /pcbg/, second round building a PC.

Plan to use it for VR gaymen, regular gaymen, and just general PC use. No editing, recording, or streaming.

I'm open to suggestions on the build, whether it be for performance or cost.

3500$ Budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bnvrCy

>>60350159
Some of those monitor deals still seem too good to be true

>>60349853
>video editing
>recording/multitasking
>no hangs/less stutters

Ryzen is made for you

>>60350174
like i get this is a joke but why even post this shit?

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>>60350193
This post actually gives me genuine confidence in Ryzen. Thanks, anon, you've made me feel good. :~]

>>60350182
I can't find the refresh rate on one of the monitors, but damn it looks good. It says "response time: 6" which is like... eh.

>>60346284
Do some googling

You need to change the timings and voltage for the ram to 1.35

It should boot at 32000mhz then

I forget what the timings were but you can find them easily. Welcome to AMD. You get bang for your buck but it doesnt "just werk" like intel

You pay less but you gotta know what you are doing

Try loosening up you ram timings and set the voltage to 1.35. Dont give up and send them back just yet. That ram is supposedly on the supported list for that MB

>>60350210
Better?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2tDYBP

>>60350174
no idea about they keyboard, mouse or headphone, but the rest of the build looks pretty good.

New thread, bump limit reached.
>>60350306
>>60350306
>>60350306

>>60350266
marginally

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VmsT7h

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>core i7 5820k
>GTX 1070
>Cosrair Vengeance LPX 16 gigs
>MSI X99A Gaming 7 MOBO
>Samsung SSD 850 Pro (256GB)
>Western Digital 2tb green HDD
>Corsair H100i GTX Liquid Cooler
>Phantex Enthoo Pro full tower case
>Some old ass antec 500w bronze PSU

>>60349545
Yes!

>>60349446
1050Ti is more likely powerful but I haven't checked reviews.

>>60349516
>The RX560 has more CUs than the RX460 and should be roughly equivalent to the 1050Ti.
True about the CUs but I doubt it can match the 1050Ti on a absolute performance basis

>>60349649
Unless you're trying for a win7 build, the CPU choice is poor. Even if you stick with Intel you want the 7500+B250

Also you want a PSU with 2 x 6+2 pin connectors just in case a later gfx card requires more wattage than the 1070 (very likely)

>>60350167
>Or should I just keep with the 1050ti and get higher frames with no freesync?
Hard question. Nvidia has a better vsync than AMD. (Vsync turns off when FPS drops below 60, unlike AMD, which is one reason they came up with Freesync.) I would say get the most powerful card your prebuilt can handle, which is the 1050Ti

Should games be saved to the SSD or leave it on HDD?

>>60350916
If the game takes time to load/ you play that game a lot, then store it on the SSD, but if you hardly play the game, but don't want to unistall it because you might play it in the future from time to time, then store it the HDD.

>>60351021
This

Also if there is a lot of textures that need to load and be updates i would put it on the sdd. If it precaches that stuff then hdd is fine

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>>60348682

Please help me.

I have i7700k and ultrawide monitor (60hz with freesync only).

Should I buy 1070? Is there better options?..

I heard issues with ryzen and windows 7. What are they? and if I use my old SSD that has windows 7 on it already will I be fine or do I have to get windows 10 for things to work properly?

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alright, i have a 350 dollar budget, im wondering what parts would better improve my computer for gayming, any help is appreciated