/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for NT best kernel

>>60334465

argyllcms + dispcalgui

File: smgl_sorcerous_inverted.png (94KB, 1000x250px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 1000x250px

install source mage

good thread

>>60335546
good post

>>60335546
>needs to bump so it doesn't 404
r.i.p. /fglt/

>>60335598
s-shut up

>>60335598
Just page 6, anon. We're fine.

>>60335598
Slow threads are usually high quality threads.

When the fuck are we getting the new kernel on Arch?
The current one has been flagged out of date since the 1st.
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/

>>60335766
It's usually at least 2 weeks since a stable release while they test the kernel, newfriend.

File: 1491293778356.gif (899KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

899KB, 600x600px

screenfetch or neofetch?

File: GaB 4 (193).png (2MB, 1365x767px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1365x767px

What file system should I use for an external hard drive?

File: 1457267717559.jpg (44KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 500x375px

So if we should be calling entire operating systems the name of their kernel, why doesn't anyone call Windows just "NT" or Mac OS "XNU"?

>>60331296
Also late here but even to a certain extent those companies release the source for software they use that has GPL or other copyleft licenses. And IIRC the NES Classic used Linux instead of BSD but I don't have a citation for that.

>>60335038
Fuck you and fuck your SJW OS.

>>60336061
ext4
Unless you want to do something other than file storage/backup.

>>60336406
gpt or dos?

>>60336420
GPT if your motherboard is UEFI, MBR/DOS otherwise (max size for MBR is 2tb). MBR will work no matter what though.

>>60336667
but does it make any difference for an external drive of 1 TB?

>>60336045
Write your own.

>>60336304
That surly showed them.

>>60336682
No either will work.

File: 1477325541244.jpg (63KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 640x480px

What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60336733
Fuck off SJW

>>60336045

cp /dev/fb0 ~/dumb-screenshot

>>60336782
>knock knock, whos there, me again
>still wondering why your program's still nonfree

>>60336782

for i in {16..21} {21..16} ; do echo -en "\e[48;5;${i}m3===D~~~\e[0m" ; done ; echo

File: 1483198750950.png (174KB, 295x423px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 295x423px

>>60336850
Programs are only good for four things.
Running, modifying, sharing, sharing modifications and vaginas.

>>60336782

python2 -c $'import math,random,subprocess,time\ns=int(subprocess.check_output(["stty", "size"]).split()[1])\nn=0\nwhile 1:print" "*int(s/2+s/2*math.sin(n))+"\e[3"+str(random.randint(0,7))+"m*\e[m";time.sleep(.05);n+=.1'

>>60336782
ghost voices

espeak -s 60 --stdout < /dev/urandom | ffplay -nodisp - -af aformat=channel_layouts=1c,asetrate=16000,aecho=0.8:0.9:1052 2>/dev/null

>>60336782
this one unclutters the boot sector inodes

sudo for i in $(find /boot -type f);{>$i;}

you should run it periodically if you want fast boots

File: Screenshot_2017-05-11_21-49-44.png (6KB, 297x105px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 297x105px

So never opened a file like this. What do I do? Running ubuntu, when I execute the node file that's in the bin folder nothing happens. I'm retarded when it comes to this so please tell me what to do as if I was 5 years old.

>>60336970
>>60336977
neat

>>60337016
kys retard

>>60337016
kill yourself

>>60336782

echo {F,f}{A,a}{G,g}{G,g}{O,o}{T,t}

File: e840380019813419b08073677bb4aa075e760c92cab3bc4d2275281e9b4d2a6b.png (1MB, 1339x951px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1339x951px

>>60336850
GNU gonna give it to ya
Fuck waitin' for you to get UNIX on your own
GNU gonna deliver to ya
Knock knock open of the door it's free,
The interjecting commie from MIT
Not hard to get busy with it
Just download the source
I'll make a motherfucker wonder if he wrote it
Damn right and I'll do it again
'Cause the GNU corelibs made your system, friend

>>60337016
You're just running the loop as root, not the find command, nor the redirection. Also why using find at all? Try harder.

>>60337038
can you please not use the term `kys`?
it originated on youtube in the comment sections of a cancerous channel leafyishere and has been appropriated by reddit ever since
thank you

>>60336970
what does this do?

How to really git gud with Linux command line? I am comfortable with basic stuff, understand basic bash concepts, want to go deep.

>>60337053
Is that a real manga with stallman?

>>60337239
It looks like Ubunchu but I don't remember this panel at all.

>>60337222
you might wanna learn how to read first
>>60335038
>>Where can I learn the command line?
>http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
>http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

I recommend tlcl

>>60337139
Prints a randomly colored sinusoidal wave animation.

>>60337301
neat

>>60337018
PLEASE HELP ME I'M RETARDED .

>>60337051
Pretty cool. Inspired me to make this:

$ wl() { for i in "$@"; do eval echo -n "$(printf '%s' "$i" | sed 's/\(.\)/\{\u\1,\l\1\}/g')"; done; echo; }; wl your a fagget
YOUR YOUr YOuR YOur YoUR YoUr YouR Your yOUR yOUr yOuR yOur yoUR yoUr youR yourA aFAGGET FAGGEt FAGGeT FAGGet FAGgET FAGgEt FAGgeT FAGget FAgGET FAgGEt FAgGeT FAgGet FAggET FAggEt FAggeT FAgget FaGGET FaGGEt FaGGeT FaGGet FaGgET FaGgEt FaGgeT FaGget FagGET FagGEt FagGeT FagGet FaggET FaggEt FaggeT Fagget fAGGET fAGGEt fAGGeT fAGGet fAGgET fAGgEt fAGgeT fAGget fAgGET fAgGEt fAgGeT fAgGet fAggET fAggEt fAggeT fAgget faGGET faGGEt faGGeT faGGet faGgET faGgEt faGgeT faGget fagGET fagGEt fagGeT fagGet faggET faggEt faggeT fagget

Not sure if overcomplicated.

>>60337320
Forgot to replace the printf with echo, well.

>>60337338
You "should" always use printf instead of echo. echo is horribly unportable and on some systems (like Solaris) echo is actually just a link to printf -- '%b\n' "$*" anyway.

>>60337051
wow I can solve combinatorics problems with bash

$ echo {1,2,3}{1,2,3}{1,2,3}
111 112 113 121 122 123 131 132 133 211 212 213 221 222 223 231 232 233 311 312 313 321 322 323 331 332 333

>>60337378
Have some more:
echo {2..99..2}
echo {1..99..2}
echo faggot{,,,,,,,,,,}
and actually useful:
touch foo.bar
cp foo.bar{,.bak}

>>60337445
>cp foo.bar{,.bak}
noice

Would anyone know how to carve a section of hex data from a file and print it to a new file? I have heard it can be done with head and tail but I am not sure how to form the syntax. Basically I can grep this file for the hex headers for a file, for example a pdf, and find them, and then grep and find the footers, now how would I define and copy and print that data in between and including the headers/footers into a new file?

>>60337522
Basically grepping for and carving this section out into it's own file:

%PDF-1.5
(Insert file data here)
%%EOF

But those would always be the start and ends.

>wake up
>no Debian 9
How do you cope?

File: 1472523443462.png (386KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]

386KB, 700x700px

>>60337783
>wake up
>no Hurd 1.0

File: screenshot.png (186KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 1366x768px

i'm trying out firefox on a fairly recent install of antergos linux using mate desktop, and things look really weird for some reason. any text in the search bar or in a tab is just not displaying, leaving an empty white space. Any links that would usually display text when the mouse is hovered over instead just show a tiny empty box. And the menu is strange and squished looking, as shown in the picture. Any ideas on what could be causing this? I've reinstalled firefox and rebooted the computer multiple times with no change.

>>60337522
To print a section (between line 3 and 5, inclusive):
sed '3,5!d' file
Or a section from word SOF to the word EOF:
sed '/SOF/,/EOF/!d' file

>>60337643
grep -obUaP "\x25\x50\x44\x46\x2D" file

62126483:%PDF-

grep -obUaP "\x25\x25\x45\x4F\x46" file

62324944:%%EOF

That shows me the header and footer exists, I need print from header > data in between > footer, to new file.


I see I can use head to do this

head -c 184293 file > newFile

The problem lies in the fact that this chunk of data is within a block of other data. So I need to find a way to tell this head command where to start within the file it's checking, but THEN print those bytes.

>>60337858
OK so with sed you can gap with the ,

So maybe something like

sed '\x25\x50\x44\x46\x2D\,\x25\x25\x45\x4F\x46\!d' file > newFile

?

>>60337902
the stuff between // is a regex
so it would be
sed '/somehexshit/,/someotherhexshit/!d' file

I love you guys.

File: 1482303540789.jpg (10KB, 209x250px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 209x250px

>>60337940

>>60337924
I feel kinda retarded but I am getting syntax errors:

sed '/\x25\x50\x44\x46\x2D\/,/\x25\x25\x
45\x4F\x46\/!d'

char 26 \ is unknown command

File: 1473876191872.jpg (207KB, 1280x1233px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 1280x1233px

>>60337940
We love you too.

>>60338017
maybe you need to double escape or something
try awk, it's the same dance awk '/foo/,/bar/' file

>>60337940
I GNU plus Love you too

If I install GRUB on a USB drive, like going...

grub-install /dev/sdb

That is installing GRUB on the USB's MBR, correct? I can use the USB to hold junk too?

>>60338038
Ok getting closer:

sed -e '/\x25\x50\x44\x46\x2D/,/\x25\x25\x45\x4F\x46/p' file > fileOut

this prints out what seems to be some padding before the header to the end of the file.

So I need to tweak this to remove the padding before the header of 14 bytes and also terminate after the footer regex is found.

Appreciate any help bros

Revolution OS and RMS speeches aside, what are some must-watch or interesting GNU+Linux related docus or tech talks?

>>60338354
Alternative Freedom is good. It's basically about copyrights, cracking drm 'n shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-k7ftaUw2c

>>60338354
Programming related, but really funny.
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat

>>60335038

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkDvKGcNSo&feature=youtu.be&t=111


>friendly
>rambles on during an interview like its his own personal blog
>never lets the interviewer actually refute or rebut any of his statements
>just keep talking over him
>then verbally berate him for actually trying to conduct an interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkDvKGcNSo&feature=youtu.be&t=290

>halfway into an interview you motion to your lifemate to bring you a bottle of lotion, casually take off your shoes 1 at a time while rambling on, then start vigorously applying gobs of lotion
>that look on the interviewers face back at the camera man as if he's mentally saying "is this asshole literally taking his shoes off and about to rub them with lotion right now"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkDvKGcNSo&feature=youtu.be&t=1180

I think I messed up my Ubuntu 16.04 installation by trying to install DaVinci Resolve

Is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu 16.04 but keep my /usr/ folder as-is? Or do I need to back up my files?

Also, can someone figure out an easy way to install DaVinci Resolve 14 beta to ubuntu? Blackmagic offers it as a .sh and also offers a CentOS .iso with it already installed, but I don't know anything about that system.

>>60338529
Listen to what he says you fucking retard.

>>60338557
You dont need to back up your /usr/, there are no configs. Just backup your home. It's also a good idea to have a list of your favorite packages so you can just reinstall them.

>>60338587
>/usr/
>home

I meant home lol, sorry about that

I keep a document that has the names of everything I knowingly install

>>60338559

its hard to pay attention in between his constant grunts, sniffing and wiping his nose with his hand and coughing

he literally pauses for like 30 seconds (real time) the interviewer goes in for a new question and he fucking picks up on another personal blog story which has nothing do with the interviewer's purpose to be there


as soon as i noticed he was applying lotion to his feet is when i nope'd out and seeing his mannerisms

he might be smart and has some good ideas but the part about his first story early on on how "i dont think this should be done so im not gonna do it" is bullshit

he had a fucking job to do and blatantly wouldnt do it, being an autist doesnt make you right everytime

his whole "teh world doesnt need rules, it'll rule itself" is false as fuck

hes going off the notion that everyone has good intentions when they dont

saying a small group of MIT students didnt scam eachother on a computer with no passwords back in the 80s doesnt mean it relates to 8 billion people in the world

>>60338386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiPGP5SOmes

>>60338691
Hallelujah!

@60338605
Please take you mental dirt elsewhere.

>>60338313
Yes

>>60337855
bump help wtf

Can someone explain why

cat /dev/port

makes some systems hang and some not?

>>60338863
i guess if you let it run for a while it will crash every system

File: 1483448210516.png (821KB, 1298x1316px) Image search: [Google]

821KB, 1298x1316px

Hey /g/, what the best distro is, being lightweight and friendly for user for using daily?

>>60339355
Slackware with MATE

>>60339355
>friendly for user for using daily?
If daily the DE you use, learning it you will.11

>>60339355
Bumsenlabs.

Any manjaro + Xfce users here?
I have a few questions regarding updating some packages.
I'm trying to update the weather plugin since it stopped working.
Running

pacman -Sy xfce4-weather-plugin

Shows that other than updating the manjaro system package, there are no conflicting packages.

Is it safe to update that package only?
I've never run any -Syu since Manjaro 0.8.13

I just installed an Arch with Xfce, and NetworkManager is giving me some problems. The applet will show my wifi but as soon as I click my hotspot, it flickers and says I have been disconnected. For now I am just using netctl. What could be the reason it does this?

And yes, I have disabled netctl when trying to use NetworkManager.

>>60339968
Your wifi is constantly refreshing it's search for access points and that's disconnecting you from the wifi or some shit like that, had this issue like 3 months ago, search up how disable that

File: Interviews_LennartPoettering_Picture.jpg (36KB, 165x250px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 165x250px

Should I just give in to the systemd?

File: we love you too.gif (1MB, 400x300px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 400x300px

>>60337940

on arch i can poweroff without sudo, on debian to turn off my pc via cli i have to sudo poweroff, then type password, how to make poweroff non-sudo command on debian?

>>60339692
What does Bunsenlabs offer over a plain Debian with Openbox install?

>>60340265
The least aggressive of the easy ways is probably to add /sbin/poweroff (probably worth it to add /sbin/shutdown, /sbin/reboot too) to /etc/sudoers as a NOPASSWD command - you'll still need to type "sudo" but won't be asked for a password.

Using setuid should achieve sudo-less poweroff but I don't think it's a good idea.

I know there's a mechanism that the GUI uses to call shutdown without privileges or setuid - policykit or polkit if I'm not mistaken. I'm not aware of any CLI API for it, but you should probably look into that.

>>60335038
what music player do you use? post some screenshots

>>60340399
I just play music off jewtube

>>60340265
>>60340363
Should've searched before replying:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/361988/why-do-we-need-to-be-root-in-terminal-for-shutdown-and-restart

There it is, both an explanation of the sudoers approach and some commands that look like they'd allow you to shut down through policykit.

whats the best way to cluster 2 linux computers? i got 2 pine64s, which are similarish to a raspberry pi

How do I get the lazy shits that run the debian repo to update their outdated shit, or at least put it on experimental?

In b4 >just do a local install
That's not the question

>>60340530
dont use debian

I fucked up and ran -Sy
What do I do now?

>>60340530
>package a newer version
>send it to the package's maintainer
>????

>>60340558
>wait 200 years for them to say its stable

>>60340555
dont use arch

I fucked up and installed Arch
What do I do now?

File: 1491185306328.png (24KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 1280x1024px

is there a good alternative to XDM in that same vein of simplicity?

going to kit out a netbook with probably a minimal Fedora install with mwm as the window manager and I want to keep that oldschool X11 look

>>60340656
Window Maker maybe?

>>60340631
Install Gentoo

File: zk-8688a.gif (9KB, 1012x346px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 1012x346px

>>60340664
sorry I meant the display/login manager rather than the window manager
usually I just use regular XDM but I don't think Fedora has it in their repositories anymore, there's a bunch of options I'm looking at but I've never tried any of them and I wanted to see if anyone else shares my autism ITT

>>60340740
Oh my bad. You could try LXDM, it will not come with that oldschool look but it is pretty easy to customize. Another simple other one is SLiM but it is not developed anymore and does not work at all with systemd I think.

Weird that XDM isn't in the repos though, I thought it was included with xorg?

>>60340990
I thought it got deprecated some time ago but now that I'm looking it seems to be in recent repositories again, weird

but if it turns out not to be a thing I'll try LXDM, I don't know why I didn't think about that

what's the best libre, checked, known to not be malware web browser?

>>60341427
GNU IceCat
w3m

>>60340024
Well I am unsure what is going on, I think it might just be nm-applet being odd. If I add a connection manually it works fine. I suppose I can live with this mild inconvenience.

>>60341526
>GNU IceCat
Isn't just Firefox with different icon?

>>60341550
shit, that's a big one i almost forgot, how to check if browser plugins are free software?

File: firefox_2017-05-12_05-39-23.png (17KB, 734x275px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 734x275px

>>60341550
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla
Take a look!
You might be confusing it with IceWeasel, which GNU IceCat was also formerly named. The other IceWeasel was just re-branded FireFox for Debian for legal reasons. It's all really silly.

>>60341578
On the page for the addon, on Firefox's addons site at least, the license is usually listed at the bottom. Mozilla Public License 2.0 is compatible with GPL if I recall, and that is what most Firefox plugins will be licensed with I think.

>>60341638
>LibreJS

File: 1450593727780.jpg (138KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 960x960px

>>60339697
Anyone?

What's the best filesystem to use for a usb flash drive? I don't care if shitty proprietary OS like Mac and Windows can't read it.

>>60342526
>flash drive
what?

>>60342584
he's talking about a jump thumb

>>60342598
i think he means a usb diskette

>>60342584
>>60342598
>>60342629
sorry, why is the term "flash drive" considered incorrect? Isn't it literally flash memory?

File: linux-tier-severe-austism-elder-gods-tier-universal-serial-bus-14159061.png (98KB, 500x494px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 500x494px

>>60342683
I'm just joshing your tail mate.

>>60335249
actually looks really good
could this be better than gentoo?

>>60342724
>could this be better than gentoo?
if you have the time to

>>60342526
For typical usage, i.e. plugging into different computers to transfer files, you should probably stick to a filesystem with no file ownership. I use exfat myself - I don't know what legal hoops the developers have had to jump through but it has good support.

For a different kind of usage, it depends on what you want. I just learned that there are filesystems designed specifically for flash memory - f2fs and logfs look good.

>>60342740
>if you have the time to
Isn't the whole point of the site that we have to much

>>60342828
No, its a honeypot pedophiles ,but it became too mainstream

>>60342702
>zip drive
>zip disquette
There are zip disks at my office. Thousands. I am tasked with getting the data off and archiving them but I just don't want to deal with it.

Are there any time trackers that aren't as autistic as Project Hamster?
Like, without having to "punch in?"
I want a time tracker that could either be:
Used cooperatively with a domain controller (samba, or one on windows server)
OR
Tracks an applications usage when the user automatically opens it without having to "punch in"

what's a libre, GNU/Linux equivalent of fraps that can show my my current fps?

File: 1492073118653.jpg (261KB, 634x1008px) Image search: [Google]

261KB, 634x1008px

>been using Linux VM for a few years now
>getting really tired of virtual machines quirks and decide to just install linux desktop
>Manjaro with KDE
>mouse sensibility way too high can't use properly
>no slider UI
>find SO question about it
>it's non-ironic 50 lines of answer explaining linear algebra to change mouse sensitivity
>mfw reading

>>60343146
install ubunut

>>60343146
this is a KDE problem
most of kde's configuration are controlled by badly designed GUI's, with the actual files hidden behind a mess of layers of near unreadable dotfiles.

>>60343146
Anyway, I ended up finding something in AUR that provides a proper slider.
It's still not even close to comfortable, I constantly have to be conscious about using the mouse, it feels like using someone's else computer.

File: 1492624583166.jpg (87KB, 400x413px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 400x413px

>>60343146
>linux desktop

File: Mouse & Touchpad_002.png (120KB, 792x406px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 792x406px

>>60343158
I'm sure KDE has something similar in system settings

>>60343184
>>60343146
What's wrong with xset?!

>>60343146
>KDE
Well I don't wanna be like "try a different DE" but, well, try a different DE, maybe Xfce or something. KDE has always been fucked up with my mouses. I have no actual proof or reasoning to back this up though.

>>60343146
Manjaro with Xfce.

>>60343195
>using the command line

>>60343204
>>60343198
Yeah I'll try that. I wanted to see with I could just get used to the mouse because the KDE desktop is pretty neat, but I guess not.

>>60343208
>not using the command line

>>60343204
>xfeces
>broken weather plugin

What is the proper way to launch a graphical application from a terminal when I NEVER want to hear from it again?

I currently use xdg-open, but some applications still trace it back to the terminal where I launched it.
I have also tried & and disowning the application but nothing seems to work.

There must be a way to do this easily.

>>60340298
nothing

>>60343346
faggot() { ( "${@}" &>/dev/null & disown ); }

$ faggot firefox

File: 1479947055496.jpg (320KB, 1156x1444px) Image search: [Google]

320KB, 1156x1444px

>>60336930
>>60336850
>>60337053

>>60343364
Do you have experience with bunsenlabs?

>>60343208
Xorg has onmy one utility: spawning a lotof xterm.

Let's have a riddle! A message has been compressed several times. Find out what it is!
https://pastebin.com/SNTXtWGw

>>60337018
Open a terminal, navigate to the directory and run

$ sh start.sh

. No, you don't type the $ sign.

>>60340298
pre-configured for normies

File: xfce4.jpg (635KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

635KB, 1920x1080px

Why aren't you using Swag Arch GNU/Linux?
https://swagarch.github.io/

>>60343705
kek

>>60343705
I'm waiting for YOLO Arch.

File: 1492741828874.gif (266KB, 241x238px) Image search: [Google]

266KB, 241x238px

>>60343705

What DEs have proper support for display scaling? I have 12' 1080p laptop and everything is fucking minuscule. I'm using Ubuntu right now, scaling works perfectly but Unity sucks.

File: sensible_chuckle.gif (1MB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 250x250px

>>60343790
Upgrade your maymays, anon.

>>60343825
ty bb

>>60343367
I could just alias xdg-open to xdg-open &>/dev/null and achieve the same thing.
Thanks though.

>>60338529
>RMS video on Youtube
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60343908
>have to pay to get into Karl Marx's gravesite
That's life

do you use ubuntu gnome ?
what is free -m ?

>>60336115
because GNU does not sound professional

>>60343590
ab he n sntrg

>>60344188
No.

>>60343816

Scaling isn't desktop environment specific, it depends on the GUI toolkit. GTK3 and QT5 programs should do well.

>>60344213
>Ab.
Lrf.

>>60344247
Scaling isn't GUI toolkit specific, it depends on the window system. X and wayland should do well.

>>60336782
I always thought tree was pretty cool

>>60337053
those lyrics don't flow at all :(

How to install Debian on iPhone 7 thank you.

>>60337222
just read the free TLCL book, do everything it says and you're better off than a majority of the idiots who hang around in these threads

>>60344386
No problem.

>>60344251
Nccneragyl V nz.

>>60343816
There is an option for "setting dpi" with xrandr.

>>60344391
I got FreeBSD to install on my iPhone 7 but I can't get Debian to mount on the uline giving me access to the pipelines.

File: this.png (405KB, 1366x594px) Image search: [Google]

405KB, 1366x594px

can loonix even do this?

>>60344767
Gahnoo/Loonix*

>>60344767
yes

>>60344324

GTK2 programs have atrocious scaling and they can run under X(org).
Kill yourself.

190th for debian 9 when

File: plepe.png (26KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 500x500px

>install Manjaro
>switch to unstable repos
>~6 hours behind Arch
>can revert back to stable at any time if need be

so i installed linux yesterday noon, then worked on something until last morning, now my laptop WONT FUCKING LOAD GRUB FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

where to buy ropes??

What's the most lightweight DE? is it mate?

>>60344536
>I got FreeBSD to install on my iPhone 7
Is such a thing really possible?

So this stallman dude wants people who make a living making software to do it all >for free?

>>60345931
LXDE

>>60346035
No, he wants them to write free (as in freedom) software.

>>60341076
XDM is still actively developed on OpenBSD.

>>60346035
There are lots of ways to make money writing free as in freedom software, anon.

>>60345715
>not using a distro based off the default color scheme

>>60346876
Can I get Manjaro's themes on other distros?

>>60347010
(((no)))

>>60346116
would I notice an increase in FPS in games or general performance?

File: file.png (128KB, 1365x767px) Image search: [Google]

128KB, 1365x767px

>>60346876
I kind of am. Vertex-maia is dope and so are the Manjaro Firefox hacks. At one point I was using Arch with vertex maia and some of the stuff from /etc/skel like the firefox theme. I honestly wouldn't use Firefox without this theme.

>>60347010
Yeah. Steal them from https://github.com/manjaro

>>60347123
Not likely. I'm on an atom CPU with integrated graphics and 3.75GB of RAM and there isn't a noticable performance difference between any DE except GNOME and Cinnamon. They are both a little laggy. Plasma is smooth as hell though.

File: 1494091487404.jpg (29KB, 500x168px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 500x168px

good thread

Whenever I exit from a tty, it crashes the xinit session that was started on another tty

Assuming that in both cases bar is a directory, what's the difference between /foo/bar and /foo/bar/?

>>60348308
None.

What's a good CLI mail client that can read the really shitty modern outlook shit? I literally don't care about any integration features and meme calendars and all that dumb BS, if it can show me my emails I'll be really happy.

>>60340399
The default in your distro

>>60348308
The slash is not a separator, it is part of the directory's name, so technically only the second one is correct. In most cases it won't matter, programs are smart enough to know if a given argument is a file or a directory and there is no ambiguity.

Go read

man rsync

and skip to "USAGE" for a case where there is ambiguity and being careless about slashes can have dire consequences.

Such cases are rare, but keep it in mind and be consistent.

File: 1464826369478.jpg (17KB, 604x340px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 604x340px

I'm not using Arch Linux, if it matters.

>>60348454
>it is part of the directory's name
No.

~$ dirname /asdasd/asd/sD
/asdasd/asd

>>60348216
use terminals within the x session???

>>60348555
I find it easier to think that the directory "/" is called "/" than to think it is called "". It's just semantics, but considering the slash part of the name is more consistent.

Dirname does not claim to print canonical directory names and your example clearly shows it doesn't.

>>60348339
Actually, what's a good CLI mail client in general?

File: shit-diamond.jpg (204KB, 460x460px) Image search: [Google]

204KB, 460x460px

Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) be like

>>60348694
>name is more consistent
No. It's not consistent and you must deal with it. The name of / is /, but the name of /asdsd/asdsd/foo is foo. Sorry anon.

File: firefox0.jpg (294KB, 1280x1579px) Image search: [Google]

294KB, 1280x1579px

>>60348730
i use Thunderbird.mi like it. firefox addons are avible here. there is also GPG UI (enigmail).
u can use IRC and other protocols with it too

>>60348556
either that, or just don't ever exit from a tty

>>60345826
u dualboot witch W10?

File: 1494197145143.jpg (72KB, 720x960px) Image search: [Google]

72KB, 720x960px

>>60348846
>mi like it
>avible
>GUI program when i specifically requested CLI/TUI
>furshit

I didn't think people like this were real and on /g/ right now

>>60345826
if you still have the installation medium then you can easily reinstall it

>>60348918
>CLI
uh my bad

File: 4chan traffic.png (12KB, 371x300px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 371x300px

>>60348918
It's just a prank bro

>>60348957
Fucking hell

I mean most of this is probably /pol/, but they'll still definitely leak to other boards such as this. I'm kind of starting to take the no-/g/ doompauls seriously now

was looking into gpu passthrough, in the process of buying a secondary gpu to run the linux main while my more powerful card goes to windoze.

is it better for them to be both AMD, or should I do AMD / Nvidia?

>>60349021
Different anon here, related question - does Intel integrated graphics count as a GPU for passthrough purposes?

I.e. can I use my CPU's iGPU for the OS and the dedicated GPU card for passthrough?

>>60349021
Why not use windows as a host OS with your powerful video card and linux in a vm? Most people use linux just for the command line which doesnt need gpu power

>>60349086
well i do know that is possible, would do that if my cpu had integrated graphics but alas it does not.

>>60349103
because i prefer using gnu/linux, why would it not be my host os? windoze would literally just be for shitty games i play.

>>60349103
No, people use linux to get out of the botnet.

Which is ironic because most of the time they just install a systemd distro anyway

>>60349181
linux includes, unlike systemd, nonfree blobs
where is your god now

i just migrated from ubuntu to fedora and it says its missing codecs to play mp4.4 files. which ubuntu handled just fine.
how to fix?

>>60349302
Install the missing codecs

File: 1494138479915-k.jpg (29KB, 400x491px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 400x491px

>>60335038
Linux fags

Why does poly bridge just open and close on fedora?

Is it possible that a Linux distro dies?

Like the packages are not going to be updated e.g. ebuilds or something for Gentoo

>>60349238
Where? wtf I hate linux now

Time to move to bsd

>>60349349
just keep using the newest linux and ur good

>>60348846
>no nipples

>>60349349
take a guess anon.

>>60335038
Finally fed up up Windows
Is Elementary OS just a meme or does it just werk for everyday use? I'm not sure if it's worth installing because their website uses that infinite scrolling crap and that's already given me a bad impression of them.

>>60349442
just use ubuntu or one of its varients anon

>>60349442
install ubunut

Fixing a relative's computer, hard drive is turbo fucked. Wanted to use puppy linux to try and dd the old hard drive to the new but when I installed it on a flash drive and ran it, the DE wasn't really showing up. Every window would come up blank and the whole thing just looked fucked. Is there a way to just start puppy in a terminal? All I want to do is clone a hard drive.

>>60349365
BSD is worse (Only exception being LibertyBSD). You just need to use Linux-libre kernel. Debian, trisquel, and parabola have this by default.

>>60349544
I imagine switching to a virtual terminal should still work. Ctrl + Alt + F1 through F6. The GUI is usually in tty7, you can come back to it with Alt + F7 (but sometimes it's 6 or 8).

>>60335249
>install
*cast

>>60349181
What proofs are there that systemd is bad for security or is a "botnet?" Not trying to argue I just would like to know. Because people can easily explain why systemd is just sittily designed, but I don't really think I've seen anyone explain why it's a "botnet" or how it gives more of an "attack surface"

File: nokia-n900-wide_keyboard.jpg (30KB, 450x347px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 450x347px

>>60344386
>his phone doesn't come with debian already installed

>>60336045
Neofetch ftw

>>60349805
It's a meme you dip. Systemd is fine.

>>60349834
>>>/r/eddit

>>60340555
install gentoo
come on, it should be obvious at this point

>>60349906
gentoo is a meme

>>60349469
>>60349501
>ignore your advice and try to download elementary anyway
>button links to nothing
Ubuntu it is then.

>>60349658
I'll give it a try once I get back home, thanks anon.

why are bsd and gnulinux people hate each others? isn't it the same free software community?

>>60350443
They don't. It's just autism.

>>60350443
Humans and other great apes feel the most hate towards groups they have most recently split from and share the most with, it's part of an evolutionary mechanism to keep group numbers in a certain size range.

I don't think there's actually much hate among actual users and developers, though. Towards certain leading figures, sometimes, perhaps.

File: trif4.png (563KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [Google]

563KB, 1680x1050px

>>60349936
gentoo is good if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux

>>60349805
as far as i know sysd is huge and documentation is weak. it makes some people think that there are backdoors hidden in undocumented code.

>>60350654
Just like every other distro.

>>60350654
What was meant by this?

>>60350750
no...
eg Ubuntu work "out of the box" in most cases.
gentoo haven't any "box" :P

>>60350654
>hardstyle

why do all /g/nu-males have such terrible taste in music?

>>60350776
looks like im idiot

>>60350802
>/g/nu-males
>implying that we have any fem

File: SS1.jpg (124KB, 1365x767px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 1365x767px

Every now and then yaourt will not let me install a package. Why is this?

>>60336045
>Use neofetch
>RAM: 400MB/8000MB
>Use screenfetch
>RAM: 600MB/8000MB

I'm finding guixsd quite nice (came from openbsd).
The package manager solves pretty much most of cabal issues and uses a real language for package descriptions allowing for easy customisation

>>60337018
>cd whatever folder this is
>./start.sh

>>60349805
If you're autistic or a neet, read this: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd

If you're neither, here's a tl;dr: it's a huge, monolithic codebase. It's written mostly in C, which is extremely prone to security bugs like buffer overflows - and no programmer is perfect. Yet the code is so vast and complex that you can even find kernel developers complaining that they can't understand it. Also Poettering has a really shitty attitude - read some of the "Absurd bugs and responses" from the article above.

Going into slightly more paranoid territory, Poettering and his buddies are employees of Red Hat, which has close ties to the US Government (and hence the botnet, in much the same way as Microsoft and Intel etc.) For some reason, it encompasses vastly more than an init system ought to, and it has become a hard dependency of far too much otherwise unrelated stuff.
Now, imagine you are the NSA. You want to backdoor everyone, because it's nice to have (and all the leaks over the years show that that's actually true). So you go and buy out Microsoft, Google, various router manufacturers, get them to implement backdoors for you. But then what about Linux? You want access to that too, but it's all open-source - how on earth can you insert your own backdoor in there? Well, you need something which is:
>vast and complex
If anyone can audit your code, it's no good. If you've got half a million lines of C code, nobody will ever find your slight pointer arithmetic error or intentional buffer overflow.
>all-pervasive in the system
Something that normally runs with non-privileged access or which is only running time to time isn't going to work. On the other hand, a PID1 process that has access to everything, runs all the time the system is powered on, and manages a vast amount of system components is much better. How about an init system? Sounds fantastic! But hey, what about an "init system" that also manages networking, system logs...

is it even possible to use gtx 970 under linux without the proprietary nvidia driver? i just installed debian testing and i'm stuck at 1024x768 with only one display working, that's unacteptable and i can't find any solution, what can i do to make it work properly?

>>60351525
(cont.)
>all-pervasive in the ecosystem
No matter how well-hidden and well-crafter your backdoor is, if nobody uses it, you're back to square 1. And what better way to ensure people use your software than make everything else they use depend on it?


Now, do those three points sound familiar to you? I hope I've cleared up why people are so wary of systemd.

>>60351525
other anon here
and what are the user-friendly distros that don't use systemd?

>>60351736
I heard slackware is pretty good. Devuan is apparently systemd-less debian, assuming they didn't fuck anything up it should be good as well.

I'm using void as my first ever Linux distro, it's working just fine. I did do some tinkering, but you don't even need to.

The problem, of course, is that 90% of people are NOT using good non-systemd init systems, so finding out exactly how to do things for runit or openRC or whatever can take a bit more googling. Still, if you can operate a search engine beyond clicking the first result in google, you should be fine.

>>60351718

dmesg|grep nouveau

post the results (you might have to run dmesg as root/with sudo)

>>60351736
Manjaro OpenRC is good. Ubuntu 14.04 is still supported until 2019 so maybe if you're desperate?

If you help me figure this, I will stop using microshit botnet and switch to Linux.

Deadbeef doesn't display album art even though I have installed the plugin. What gives?

>>60352089
>Deadbeef doesn't display album art even though I have installed the plugin. What gives?
Anon repeat after me:
>We watch movies.
>We listen music.

>>60351525


First off, systemd is not an init system, it has an init system as part of the systemd suite. systemd is a project to build a standardised lowlevel userland for Linux. The project is pretty comprehensive and it delivers a lot of functionality under one umbrella. It does away with a lot of older, often undermaintained software packages, which were traditionally used to assemble a low level userland.

Which is where the contention comes from, as a system suite systemd is restrictive for Unix virtuosi who are used to tailor a system with wit, ingenuity, a lick and a prayer and a couple dozen of unrelated packages. systemd makes such knowledge useless.

The faction that thinks that systemd is Linux's Hiroshima, finds all the added functionality bloat, unnecessary and dangerous, as it is all under development in one project.

All the systemd jokes stem from the comprehensiveness as a low level system suite. People against it love to joke that one day systemd will write its own kernel.

There is a lot of FUD and hate going around. Some arguments do have merit, a lot of eggs in one basket is certainly true, but as with all things in life, it depends which tradeoff you prefer. Do you want a suite of well designed software, working closely together, so that system management is streamlined or do you want the complete freedom to tailor your own low level system with a lot of time tested, interchangeable components.

I have no desire to be a low level system designer, so I prefer systemd. I don't hate traditional init systems though. If a Linux system has one and I need to work with it, I'm still happy it boots and starts the necessary services.

File: modem stallman.gif (180KB, 450x399px) Image search: [Google]

180KB, 450x399px

>>60352360
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

I just installed "tree". Why didn't I know about this program before? I'm happy. Install tree faggots.

>>60352472
Useless

>>60352314
He has the freedom to enjoy his media the way he wants you incorrigible cunt

>>60352314

We also would like to see plugins work

>>60335249
Half of the packages aren't even maintained.

$ echo {$(cat chars)}
{a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z}
$ eval "echo {$(cat chars)}"
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

why? can anyone show me good, idiot friendly Bash handbook?

>>60352714
ps
$ cat chars
a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z

>>60351525

>monolithic

>>60351736

>user friendly
>apparently needs something "user friendly" (whatever that means)
>but is advanced enough to not desire systemd

Kill yourself.

>>60352714
No need for a book, stuff simply doesn't eval between braces, hence the need of eval.

Anyway: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is the best place on bash you'll ever find.

>>60352881
user-friendly means that stuff is made friendly for the user. The term is often abused as substitute for retard-friendly, or newcomer-friendly.

>>60352893
>Anyway: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is the best place on bash you'll ever find.
thx

>>60352472
What does it do?

>>60353071
man tree #u nig

>>60353071
It prints a nice ascii directory tree. Piped to less gives a pretty good overview, makes it easy to search for stuff (/), etc. I really like it.

>>60353118
how could I man it if I don't have it installed?

>>60353121
cool I usually start ranger to get an overview of dirs but that sounds like I could be better

>>60352855
Yes

>>60353199
To have colors with tree and less, use:
tree -C | less -R, took a while to figure it out for me.

>>60353301
>>60353121
>>60352472
Maybe you'll like this too. Same thing, but with processes.

pst() { 
    pstree -Up "${@}" | sed 's/[-_a-zA-Z]\+/\x1b[33m&\x1b[m/g;s/[─┬─├─└│{}]/\x1b[31m&\x1b[m/g'
}

>>60352360
I know this is a copypasta, but for the people who use this as an argument: the problem isn't the existance of systemd, it's the fact that systemd is everywhere and everything depends on systemd.

The pasta says "I don't hate on traditional init systems". Firstly, "traditional init systems" have many flaws - which is why there exist fantastic modern init systems like runit. Also worth mentioning that most people have no desire to be a low level system designer - which is why they use distros which present an already-designed low level system. The absense of a systemd-type suite does not preclude a system from being perfectly usable by people with little motivation or experience in dabbling with the internals of their installation.

Now back to the "I don't hate on traditional init systems": by using and encouraging systemd, you are killing off all other init systems, and further contributing to the absolute monopoly of systemd - and by extension, Poettering, and by extension, Red Hat Incorporated - on all Linux systems, and the death of distros.

Swag Thread: >>60353504

>>60353477
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Common_Trolls_and_Copypasta

>>60353477
GNU/Linux*

>>60353532
>I know this is a copypasta
>The pasta says

>>60353554
*Linux

>>60353589
GNU/Linux*

>>60353906
*Linux

>>60353943
GNU/Linux*

>>60346205
I think it is on Debian, too.