This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
>Required Viewings For Newbies:
https://youtu.be/_2J5phyd9J4
>Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>60294447
>mfw the watches I want are absolutely going to get sniped from me at the last minute
Pls no.
>>60307624
You will get used to it
>>60307624
Start sniping, then. Its not unfair if everyone does it
Reminder that replacing an hour marker with a date window is fucking retarded.
Especially in a dive watch.
There's plenty of room in between those markers god fucking damn it.
PERLON >>> NATO
NATO STRAPS ARE SHIT
>>60307692
why
>>60307624
Happens all the time. One ended up on r/watches.
What's worst is it's always some autist with no self control who overpays at the last second. This is why I usually go for the "for parts or restore" watches since it doesn't fit with the "I want and I want it NOW" mentality. Usually it's a pallet fork here, a cleaning there, or replace the hour wheel and they're good to go.
>>60307624
Know that feel. The fucking snipers pay a fucking shit ton of money for crappy listings, and some use ultra high speed techniques so you can't really compete with them if you're using a regular connection and ordinary snipers
>>60307758
>he goes for the 'for parts or restore' section on Ebay
And what does your watches son think about that?
>>60307692
Incorrect
This is stupid, isn't it?
>>60307691
It's another quick way of seeing which way up the watch is in the dark. If the lume gap is on the right the it's the right way up.
>>60307786
That retarded band? Yes.
>>60307785
That's not a nato, it's a 1 piece nylon strap.
>>60307788
Hell no. That's what the 12 o'clock marker is for.
>>60307786
Actually no, if it's properly reinforced.
>>60307796
>That retarded band?
ye
>>60307758
>One ended up on r/watches.
Kek, mind posting it here? Fucking euphoric TGV fan redditors crack me up everytime
>>60307813
I think this is the strap. There's actually a band running underneath the watch.
Rate mine guys
>>60307860
Noice piece of tech m8. Hows it holding up?
>>60307843
Don't have the link, but it was a 70's Seiko 7019 5Actus. It wasn't me who found it even, it was some other anon after I sperged out about it here.
>>60307786
Yes. Those tiny lug abortions look dumb with a strap.
>>60307692
Wrong
>>60307880
You can actually remove those, see pic.
The strap attaches directly to the tiny lugs of the watch head by means of short spring bars.
Not sure how the watch head looks irl without those fake screw-on lugs.
>>60307873
Great, no issues so far, though I've had it for a year. A cool feature is that it automatically adjusts the time when daylight savings begin and also changes the date depending on the month, so you never have to adjust it. Since it's also solar powered making it a really low maintenance watch.
>>60307804
It is yeah, that's why I said it's ANOTHER quick way.
>>60307860
What does the Bluetooth do?
>>60307933
It blues teeth dumbass!
>>60307933
You connect it to your phone so it syncs the time, casio has an app out for that. It also has some really novelty functions, for example if you have it paired to your phone and the phone has bluetooth on you can make it ring, making finding your phone easy if you happen to have left bluetooth on, which is never.
>>60308052
It's worth it.
>>60305845
It shows that you took the pledge as a male to fight for equality for women and take a stand against misogyny.
>>60308052 (You)
>>60308122
>that pic
>>60307766
>>60307758
Using a dumbass nigger bidding system like that. My country's "ebay" always ads 5 minutes after the last bid so to prevent REAL snipes.
>>60308122
>dat pic
>"n-now will they let me fuck them?"
>>60308101
If you don't have anything better to do than jerk off your tranny dick to watches of suck off dogs like the furfag, then sure mechshits might be worth it.
inb4
>posting on 4chins
>having a life
>pick only one
>>60308122
http://imgur.com/gallery/e0c6w
Doesn't specifically address 'history' but this meme of "it has some vaguely masculine sounding word within it therefore patriarchy or something" is cringeworthy as hell.
>>60308253
>anglo problems
I can't feel but smug that my language doesn't have gendered pronouns or anything so feminists can't get a foothold without anything to complain about.
>>60308457
Don't fuckin' jinx it m8, the feminists' (the thinly veiled post modernist/marxist types) entire M.O. is finding something to complain about being victims of.
Here's a 10Hz Breguet in the meanwhile.
Think I could fix it up?
>>60308507
That requires to actually have influential males susceptible to guilt-tripping, since feminists have no power in their own. That is lacking here, in fact some politicians have accidentally slipped some comments out time to time towards female politicians that indicated that they're actual, REAL misogynists. There were shitstorms by womens groups, but everybody just said "lol go fuck you're selves" and the men remained in position, without an apology even.
Lol, even the guy who beat his wife black and blue so bad it became a court case got off. He literally used the "lol she fell I guess" defense, kek.
>>60308205 (You)
>>60308644
A lot of the times the watches look better irl than in the pics, but this might not be the case. A light polish might work on the case though, if it doesn't have some fancy Seiko finish.
You'll probably be in trouble with the crystal though, a NOS crystal might be expensive or extinct.
>>60308687
How watchmakers actually replace crystals on non-round/square watches when there are no original parts available? Can they easily cut a new one?
>>60307691
That's a nice rep.
>>60308651
>Lol, even the guy who beat his wife black and blue so bad it became a court case got off. He literally used the "lol she fell I guess" defense, kek.
A little too far in the other direction for my taste, but fuck me if that isn't funny.
>>60308720
What's a rep?
>>60308131
Doing this every fucking time is just as bad as shitposting. You aren't contributing to any discussion at all and you're giving the shitposter exactly what he wants.
Is this too big for me?
>>60308761
Yes.
>>60308761
Yes. Definitely.
The lugs stick out beyond your wrist.
do you guys ever consciously acknowledge that nobody cares about your watch? not trying to hate on watches in general, but it's true that even intelligent normies don't really pay any attention to watches. the differences between a $500 "shitter" and a $2500 watch are pretty much irrelevant to 99.99% of people. so many people here buy mid-tier watches for 'prestige' but they're just not worth it given that legitimately nobody cares.
just a thought, idk
>>60308708
There are rectangular generic replacements available, the only problem being there are three parameters now instead of two (width+thickness for round vs. width+height+thickness), but what we do when there's a special shape is send it off to a guy who normally works on optical lenses. We literally use lenses originally for glasses for crystals like domed rectangular.
>>60308734
reproduction / fake
>>60308720
>>60308862
What makes you think that's a reproduction?
>>60308855
Every "normie" recognises a Rollie for example.
Also, in my workplace and my field in general, there are many normies who are interested in watches. Their age varies from 20 to 60.
>>60308644
Good luck finding a replacement crystal, a rectangular bevelled crystal with the corners cut off like a BSG book is very specific.
>>60308928
>Every "normie" recognises a Rollie for example.
Yeah but that's it. You can cop one of those and a few meme watches and you're pretty much done. There's no practical room for muh soul muh character because 98% of you guys just use that as an excuse to be brand whores (only amongst watch austists, though) and to rationalize the purchase of false status symbols. It all just seems so contrived.
>>60308761
If the lugs extend beyond the edge of your wrist, it's too big.
>>60308761
yes unfortunately just a smidge
if it were 3mm shorter on either side it'd be the large end of ok
but it's too large as is
>genuinely believe a Swiss watch will make me feel better about myself than a nice Seiko
Am I snob?
>>60307785
That strap not wide enough for that watch.
>>60308951
We're simply maintaining our Pateks for the next generation, Anon.
>>60308967
>Am I snob?
no, you're a moron
see also >>60308974
>>60308967
Not really, unless you have a Grand Seiko or something.
>>60308855
Yeah nobody cares about them and i'm totally fine with it.
>>60308967
That sounds pretty stupid
>>60308971
>has never heard of the bond strap meme
Newfag detected
>>60308855
I don't care if anyone notices, most people are shit in the general sense anyway. If I like the watch and appreciate it's horological value that's all that matters.
>>60308761
Wristlet not even once.
>>60309105
I've heard if it plenty. It's still too fucking small.
I haven't worn a watch in like 20 years or something like that. I like the idea of those self-winding mechanical watches.
Are those $100-ish mechanical watches they sell on chink express any good or are they just garbage?
> pic related, my watch is probably bigger than your watch
>>60308951
Mechfags BTFO.
All you need is an eco-drive.
>Zero maintenance
>Accurate
>Runs forever
>>60309151
Seiko 5
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-SEIKO-Quartz-Day-And-Date-Watch-/122471953824
should i cop this or save up till I can buy a sarb033
>>60309151
You can get some decent japanese watches for $100, don't go chink. Seiko 5 is a range of mechanical watches that has many different styles, all of them are automatic, and have a display caseback which is neat.
>>60309294
This will go for at least £50
>>60307858
that's doable actually, i'll allow it
>>60309106
I agree
>>60309168
You have to replace the rechargeable battery and the gaskets. It's no different than servicing a mechanical to an end-user.
Are Orient watches any good? Thinking about getting the Orient Trooper. I really want that display window at the back and the Sapphire Crystal.
>>60309151
Check out Vostok Amphibias on eBay, it will change your life.
>>60309518
Yes they are.
>>60307700
MODERN NATO STRAPS ARE FAT AND MAKE YOUR WATCHES TOO THICK ON YOUR WRIST
>>60307785
PROTIP: MODERN NATO STRAPS ARE 4 TIMES THICKER THAN THAT
>>60309735
Why are you shouting?
>>60309735
>PROTIP: MODERN NATO STRAPS ARE 4 TIMES THICKER THAN THAT
Not if you buy one for $3 from a street peddler like I did. This is no thicker than any t shirt I own. It's fucking nothing.
>>60307624
>tfw got sniped just now
it was just a seiko 5 but still sucks
>>60308644
Why bother? You can get LM Specials in much better condition for cheap.
>>60308951
>Things I don't understand anything about are just trying so contrived! Why would people pretend to like things I don't like?
>>60308967
No. Just ignorant. Like most plebs, you don't actually know anything about Seiko's history and horological credibility.
>>60309920
>point out specific deficiency
>y-you just don't understand!
>muh vaguery, muh ad-hoc nonsense
k bud
>>60309936
>Seiko's history and horological credibility
I actually do know a lot about that.
>>60309938
You already admitted you know virtually nothing about watches, now you've just admitted that you are just shitposting.
Here's your (You).
>>60309949
Then how can you justify believing Swiss watches (sub Rolex) are better than Seiko? All of the sub-Rolex Swiss brands are overpriced shit.
>>60308651
Where is the eden? Is it Russia?
>>60310002
Hungary. Best of both worlds really. No libs and shitskins, but also no slavs and assassinations. Too bad the economy is all shit, wages are shit, the Forint is worthless and everyone is an illiterate turbopleb. But other than that it's pretty nice. You wouldn't fit in though, our mentality is still more Warsaw-Pact than Western-European.
>>60309985
I was thinking specifically about a tudor pelagos with in-house movement.
For some reason I can't get myself to believe a Seiko can ever be classy. Even though I'm actually a big fan.
>>60310124
Well, an in-house Pleagos is a great watch and I'd certainly take one over an MM300, but I'm not sure that classy is how I would describe it.
But I certainly would describe several GS models as classy.
>>60308651
sounds awesome
>>60309795
if you want to get a watch, put in a bid for the maximum price you're ready to pay, and wait for the email that tells you if you've won it or not.
>>60310124
ah yes, the very classy big titanium diver
How bad did I fuck up?
>>60310367
How much?
>>60310325
>>60310233
I wasn't really talking about the design itself being classy.
More like the origins.
>>60310383
90 dollary-doos.
>>60310393
Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>60310307
No shit? The point is that the euphoric reddit snipers are paying too fucking much.
>>60310408
so that's fine then, since you weren't ready to pay that much. maybe you just shouldn't be buying things at auction.
>>60310389
What does that even mean? How is "budget rolex" a classier origin?
>>60310074
Well, enjoy your culture while it lasts! Hopefully the economy and literacy can improve, but that generally also brings in other undesirables.
I've spent a bit of time in Austria, but never actually went east to Hungary. Maybe I'll add it to the list of places to visit in the future.
Cheers anon.
>>60310367
>Daini Seikosha
You didn't.
>>60310367
Real bad
>>60310416
T. Redditor who pays $170 for a fucking old seiko 5 shitter
>>60310579
hell no, but i know how auctions work and don't get mad when i don't get my toy because i'm not a baby.
>>60310557
I also bought this one last week, but it was a straight sale and not an auction. Which is why I asked. I think I did okay here. Everything is claimed to be original as well as the band.
>>60310643
Wait you got two Lord Matics?
>>60310604
i'm not (that) mad, i'm a poorfag who just want a good watch for an affordable price.i agree with >>60310579
a generic used seiko 5 isn't worth more than 50 $
>>60310545
I like the Daini stuff a lot, the rest... not so much.
>>60310686
Yes. I liked the band on that one and wanted one with a white face and one with a black. I am also looking for a blue or green.
I like the old Lord Matics considerably, but I don't really have that much interest in watches so I've got no reason to go out and buy a new Grand Seiko or something when I can just clean up a few old Lord Matics and fulfill my own appetite. I'd much rather put that money towards more guns and funs for guns.
>>60310856
You should look into more of the vintage Seiko lines. Also be careful with the Suwa LM, the quickset mechanism is plastic and tends to break on the Suwa made ones
>>60310972
Will do.
>>60307642
Are we still using jbidwatcher for that?
>>60311136
I use gixen
>>60308935
>corners cut off like a BSG book
I understand this reference
>>60311092
the citizen shill is back
come back when citizen makes a non mallcore watch
What's a good minimal, metal watch for under $100? Was looking at pic related but some reviews online claim poor QC, while others praise Citizen for it's high quality.
>>60311092
Citizen eco-drives are fine, good watches. They basically run forever without servicing.
Their quartz mechanism is also not as mechanically impressive as an actual mechanical watch. To the extent you care about that, make your watch purchasing decisions accordingly.
>>60311092
Thats a really nice watch m8. Shame about the price. I know its an ISO diver and all that but 170$ is still a bit steep for me.
Also get this;
>be me
>go to watchmaker to ask for the price of changing the battery in my casio g shock
>12$
12$ fucking dollars for a battery change. Im getting the battery and watch silicone for under 3$ and doing it myself
>>60311654
That doesn't seem minimal to me.
>>60311703
I guess relative to watches that have all those different dials and you can see the gears inside. A lot of the "under $100" watches I'm looking at are things like this.
>>60310074
>tfw Croatfag
>father always said they went for hookers in hungary
And this is my recollection on hungary
>>60311701
do you expect them to do it for free?
>>60311782
You might wanna consider the fact that we're talking about battery monkeys inflating prices because they obviously expect me to pay a part of their monthly lease of the place. Aint gonna happen
I thought this was /wt/, not /richfags/
>>60311841
so why did you go ask them? what did you expect? did you think it was some kind of charity?
>>60311841
Where do you think you are? Watches are a luxury and cost money.
is 36mm too small for 6.7inch wrist
>>60311863
Because I didnt want to get suckered into doing it before asking the price. Im not talking about a full service on a king seiko deluxe daytona supramatic, its a simple battery change and greasing up the back seal. I KNOW its not worth $12 and you know that as well
>>60311701
yup, that's the scam with quartz watches. For the cost of a battery change by a 'professional' you can get a new watch. OR just learn to change the battery yourself. OR better still get an eco-drive/light powered watch and have a fuss free watch ownership experience.
You can get casio tough solars like pic related. Same tech as eco-drives.
>>60311731
Sounds about right. Palvin is like a 6/10 here.
>>60311880
>where do you think you are
Oh Im sorry did /wt/ get class overnight?
>watches are a luxury and cost money
Only for idiots that refuse to think otherwise
>>60311926
So anyway that was a compliment because you know, our girls are as pretty as yours, so they couldnt have been wrong if they rather went across the yugo borser and paid in hungary
>>60311731
Kek. Your dad has good taste anon. I am German and I can't remember how many Hungarian hookers I've had. They are the best in the business for sure.
>>60311927
Quit being a fucking kike. There are niggers in Africa eating our old leather shoes, watches are of the least of their concern.
>>60311961
>watches are a luxury
>there are poor people somewhere
How do these arguments correlate in your head to form a criticism of me being cheap? How isnt it proving my point that i get to decide how I spend my hard earned money?
>>60312003
nice job completely switching the argument
>>60312035
>nice job switching the argument
From what to where? Its hard to understand your retard-speak
>>60312196
you won
>>60311701
>I know its an ISO diver and all that but 170$ is still a bit steep for me.
Can you name some significantly cheaper stainless case classic looking ISO divers?
Just got my ammo strap. This should last forever
>>60312260
No but for that price I can buy a Casio DW5600E-1V (because we all know G Shocks go even deeper than 200m, ISO or no ISO), get a hooker and still have enough cash to get a cab home
>>60312266
And this is how it look like on poverty casio. Much better than nigger-tier nato strap
>>60312325
>poverty casio
Still more accurate than almost any mechanical watch ITT
>>60312366
yeah but it bothers me i didnt get better casio than this one but i was too much of a sperg and my parents bought that for me. This watch sucks because its neither vintage or top tier digital watch
>>60312318
>No but for that price I can buy a Casio DW5600E-1V
wow you sure showed us
>>60312434
'Im poor but also picky'
t. You
>>60311889
>Because I didnt want to get suckered into doing it before asking the price. Im not talking about a full service on a king seiko deluxe daytona supramatic,
Yeah that would normally cost you about $12
you cheap fuck
>>60312458
Go polish your Amphibias acrylic crystal with toothpaste, pleb
>>60312479
>As if I gave a fuck how much it would cost me, the full service on my fictional expensive mechanical watch
Wow you sure showed me
>>60312318
>No but for that price I can buy a Casio DW5600E-1V (because we all know G Shocks go even deeper than 200m, ISO or no ISO), get a hooker and still have enough cash to get a cab home
That's one cheap hooker you disgusting degenerate
>>60312531
>$170
>Casio DW5600E-1V $40
>Cab $30
>Your mom $100
Show me your Rolex before you judge me, plebster
Anyone have that infographic on why Daniel Wellington is shite?
>>60307785
NOT A NATO
>>60307612
Hmm
>>60313165
just look at one
>>60313270
>hmmmmmmmm
>>60313302
owl penis
>>60313299
I mean the one that illustrated how DW watches are basically mickey mouse toy watches with a $100 price tag
>>60313331
I fell for the meme and I couldn't be happier familia
>>60313380
this thing really looks better in person than any photo you've seen
>>60313380
Phuckk me dead bro that is absolutely beaut
>>60313395
Very nice, wear it in good health.
>>60313395
I have no idea what that is
>>60313395
aye, I own one too m8. it's delightful.
I'm also stoked for the new 'cocktail time' Presage collection (pic related)
>>60313401
>>60313475
Thanks familias!
I think I discovered the cocktail seiko through /wt/ and this time /wt/ really wasn't memeing, this thing looks and feels really nice.
Sometimes I wonder, between Russian watches for the weird movements for a great price (like a really thin Poljot 2209, or an alarm watch, etc.), Seiko divers with a great value for money (turtle, skx007, etc.), and dressy Seikos + Grand Seikos that look and feel fucking great, I can't imagine myself paying 3k for a mid-high end Swiss, or any Swiss at all, unless I was filthy rich and wanted to drop 50k on a crazy complication or novelty, like that razor thin tourbillon Bvlgari.
(And even then, I'd probably opt for a Credor Eichi II)
>>60313731
aaaaand this rootbeer delight (with rose gold)
>>60313731
Looks great too, Seiko's sunburst is very well done.
And they even matched it with a dark date window, it's funny how watched even thrice as expensive use just a stock white date window, regardless of the dial colour.
Any info on price?
>>60313730
how can you not know about the famous cuck tail time
>>60313795
like $4-500 tops
the dials have 30 coats of gloss, I agree they look incredible
>>60311701
>>60311841
>>60311889
Well how much would YOU do it for?
>>60313795
$445
version with date subdial at 6 and center power reserve is $590
>>60313758
>>60313731
P R E S A G E
>>60313731
IT LOOKS PURPLE
Your excuse for not owning a vintage penisquartz? These are absolutely amazing for the price
>>60313905
that one is dark blue yeah
they still make a white/silver version like the original cucktail time though
>>60313960
>>60310545
>>60310783
You're goddamn right. Daini Seikosha = best Seikosha. It's not for nothing that Daini became SII and Suwa makes printers now.
>>60313916
>quartz
>>60313916
I'll get one eventually, but i'm out of funds for watches at the moment.
>>60313916
i have four benins :3
>>60314017
Not him but what's wrong with quartz if it's well made? I love mechanicals too but it's nice to have at least one quartz beater.
>>60314044
wow that is nice how much?
>>60311092
>Changing gaskets is not really necessary, that's just something that citizen says you should do so that they can rip you off for 'service', just like the mountain jews. If you have never opened the watch, no need to change gaskets since the seal remains intact.
LMAO what a clueless dumbfuck you are.
>>60314044
are these yours? mind if I ask how much you paid for these?
Do saturation divers these still buy expensive mechanical dive watches out of tradition or something?
They make tons of money after all.
>>60314090
My brother is a saturation diver and he uses a Citizen Promaster and says its the best watch for having underwater while working with machinery at depth
>>60314137
What model or type?
>>60314137
My brother is a shill and says you're a faggot.
>>60313380
>>60313395
Really nice. I came close to getting that model several times, but the case is too big for my tastes, so I ended up with a 38mm Hamilton Intra-matic.
What's going on with the ecodrive troll? I see him shitting in every thread even though no one falls for his baiting.
Some anon posted a screenshot of the same troll from fucking 2015.
>>60313916
I do own one and it's beautiful.
>>60313916
I don't own a quartz (penis) because I'm personally more into vintage Daini mechanicals. They are cool as shit though.
>>60314185
Pardon my french its the hyper aqualand >>60314190
Well thats the sad life of a 4chan troll (you)
>>60314017
The Penis quartz watches are from the early quartz era usually. As quartz was the next big tech they tended to put a lot more thought & care into designing the movements, they're a lot better than some shitty $5 Miyota.
>>60314301
>>60314137
Also no, they dont
>make tons of money after all.
Unless you work for a really advanced oil and rigging company, for which you need 15 years of working experience, experience which comprises of working for faggot bosses for little cash. Ill never forget his horror stories for working for one guy that never cleanes their tanks so they had to do it themselves, and what people dont tell you is that the moisture from your lungs and lungs of ten other divers find their way into the tanks and cant be properly cleaned.
>>60313343
>>60313852
$5 max
>>60313916
I have 5, two need some work at the moment though.
Question: Is rose gold acceptable on a dress-ish watch
Or is gold tacky on ALL watches?
>>60314642
Yes it is acceptable on a dress watch.
>>60314752
thank you
>>60309324
I just won it for £15, hopefully its not too small and I can polish any scratches out AND I hope the lume is still ok
>>60314994
It'll be 36mm probably, the lume won't be very good though due to the age of it.
Here's mine on my 7.5" wrist.
>>60315059
is the day-indicator bilingual?
>>60314994
nice
>>60314994
PHUCK ME DEAD that's a bargain mate. If the seller listed it to international eBay, he would have sold it for around $40-75.
>>60314642
What do you mean "dress-ish"?
For straight dress watches rose gold's fine. I'm not even looking at yellow gold anymore since it's too garish on my skin. IMO yellow gold only looks good on blacks and others with brown to black skin. Unless you're a crinkly old rich white dude of course.
>>60315142
Yep, kanji and English.
I'm 100% sure this piece will end up on fucking r/watches.
Some fucker aggressively outbidded me when I was bidding somewhere around £30-50. I checked it later and this same idiot paid fucking £132 for a 4004.
>>60315059
Wow I just bought the exactly same ref a few days ago. Looks stunning on your wrist, can't wait to get mine
Had sex while wearing my vintage mechanical watch and now it's fucked
welp just got new Archimede chrono with a 7750. the date function doesn't work.
I should have listened to you dick gypsies @ the 7750.
>>60315433
Anon, having sex with your watch doesn't count as having sex.
>>60314472
Ok, Pajeet.
>>60315355
I think it's mainly a spoiled "I want it NOW" mentality that's behind all this.
>>60315558
>tfw I impulse bought a nasty vicious HMT shitter for $5 from India and I still haven't opened the package even though it arrived 2 months ago
Will I get poo aids from touching it?
>>60315599
why did you do that
now you have to get rid of it and it takes room in the garbage
>>60315594
>btw we need our own board.
those threads are pretty slow as it is
>this kills the grand seiko for most of us
Why aspire for an expensive piece when you can buy this high quality one for cheap?
>>60315355
what are some seikos that look like that apart of SNXS77 . bonus points if they're on the cheaper side
>>60315941
It's a fine watch for the price but spending a bit more comparatively will get you finish that shits all over it.
>>60315941
I'm sure you'll get a lot of flack for this, but I kind of agree with you. I purchased a quartz GS recently and simply did not find it to be that much nicer than the SARB I used to own. Sure, the hands were beautiful and the case finishing was impeccable, but the watch as a whole just left me really cold, once I had it all desire was lost. I'm sure part of it has to do with the fact it was a quartz (no doubt I'd still love a high beat, handwound GS), but I couldn't stop thinking about how good the SARB is for how little it costs compared to GS.
>>60315594
>trump: just removed any meaningful tie to the investigation into his mass fuckery.
>>60315594
>btw we need our own board.
no, you just need to return to reddit
>>60316071
People rave about "muh finish" but who the fuck is ever going to see that shit aside from you with a magnifier? Hardly seems worth thousands more.
With all of it's horrid ugliness, I actually find this little fucker quite comfy.
>>60316071
Honestly the Sarbs finish is already very good, no presage has beaten it in finish yet and its twice the price. A grand seiko ofc, but as I said the sarb is already very very good, especially even for amatures it would be hard to distuingish them
>>60316156
You don't need a microscope, just look at a SARX033 or 35 and the difference is plain to see for only a couple hundred more.
>>60316200
Or Brightz that are twice the price, and yes Ive owned one briefly, thats the reason why I returned it.
>>60316214
I have, and I don't really see it. I mean, if you like the watch, then buy it, I just personally wouldn't.
>>60315594
>trump: just removed any meaningful tie to the investigation into his mass fuckery.
For months people have been harping on about there being evidence of a Trump-Russia connection, and so far there has been zero.
There is nothing going on, and Comey wasn't going to find shit.
Deal with it.
>>60316214
SHOW me that in pictures. You literally cant
>>60316156
you wouldn't own some piece of shit that's been chromed, with plastic hands right?
finish is important, but I agree (not worth thousands more).
>>60316281
Sure, I just mean that once you get beyond a few hundred to a thousand USD, it seems to be diminishing returns all the way up.
>>60316156
As far as case finishing goes, not much beats the MKIIs radial brushing. Guess it only really works on Tonneau cases, which is why it is not seen but on a few other watches.
>>60316214
demonstrate in photos. or zip it.
>>60316255
Are you blind? The sarbs have no AR, mediocre polish and the bracelet is barely adequate. It's definitely nice compared to other $300 watches but comparing it to grand seiko or the higher end presages is laughable. Even my $400 SARX013 looks noticably better in terms of case detail and polishing.
>>60316337
I do like that, and I've seen it on several vintage watches as well. Bit of a shame it's fallen out of favor.
>>60316299
precisely. which is why I happily stay right in the $0-$1k range
>>60316350
So rolex has no ar. And no it doesnt have mediaocre polish, but great polish. Bracelet has actually very detailed polish if you mind looking a little closer. Honestly the sarb033/035 has extensive case detail with multiple layers but whatever, you can see it the pictures. Have you even looked?
>>60316412
Simce im not full of myself like you heres a good pic of the bracelet also
>>60316156
I own a SARB017, and I held a grand seiko in my hand last week.
The difference is extremely obvious, even from halfway across the room.
At arm's length the polished areas of the case for instance are literally incredible.
What you're seeing is no longer metal, but a miniature universe containing whatever is being reflected.
>>60316350
The bracelet on the SARB is not any worse than the ones on GS's (lower end ones at least). Neither are bad, but they don't have any particular strong points.
>>60316451
>What you're seeing is no longer metal, but a miniature universe containing whatever is being reflected.
>>60310703
then be happy you didn't overpay
wtf are you even complaining about
it's not like you missed out on a super rare watch or could've saved hundreds if it wasn't for a sniper
there are other seiko 5s out there...
>>60316451
if the difference is abundant halfway across the room, why won't anyone post photographic proof?
you keep talking about this tremendous finish -- prove it.
>>60316448
Compared to this?
>>60316503
There are tons of pics of grand seikos.
But photographs or video don't do it justice.
Why Seiko is and has always been so goddamn based? My absolute favourite watch company after Rollie.
>>60316457
Compared to GS
>>60316524
Because photographs and videos don't have human bias.
>>60316508
That brushing looks dull, and the polished pieces are separate if I remember correctly, meaning less work. Better than the swiss I'll give you that, but not better than the sarb
>>60316576
This guy drives.
>>60316529
It's those Japs, man.
>>60316534
Literally looks the same
>>60316524
it can't be hard to put an alpinist next to a GS, take an HD photo, and at least give an idea?
>2017
>having a fucking watch when everyone has time on their smartphone
Is this a troll thread?
>>60316588
It says 0 mph on the meter, I bet youre the "GS and Sarx is way better" guy
Ayy lmao
>>60315941
>>60316092
A Grand Seiko is manufactured, finished and QC'd to a level that is in another galaxy from a SARB. Having handled the SARB 033/035 in person and owning a Seiko Brightz SDGM003, I can tell you that even the Brightz is finished much better than the SARB.
However, many people simply don't have the eye for detail to really appreciate the exponentially difference in workmanship on a GS than a SARB, and if that is the case for you, then a SARB is a good fit for you and it doesn't make sense for you to spend GS money.
>>60316534
I see no difference whatsoever.
>>60316156
Have you ever handled these watches in person? I can tell you from experience that the difference leaps out at you when you handle the watches up close.
As an example, my SDGM shits all over a $4000 USD Omega Aqua Terra. The Omega looks and feels like a SARB by comparison.
>>60316566
Whether you're looking at a physical object, or a photograph of that object, the human bias is still there.
The problem is that the computer screen on which the pic is displayed is full of pixels, irregularities and other shit that completely crap up the impeccable finish of the actual grand seiko.
Like smearing shit on a woman's face and trying to see how smooth her skin is through the shit.
>>60316457
>>60316534
Nope. The GS is in another galaxy. Sorry, you are just too much of a pleb to notice it.
>>60316618
Youre telling me I dont have an eye for detail and this is my pic?
Im not arguing the GS isnt finished better. But hardly worth the price (and the hassle of sending it to japan)
>>60316717
Can you please try that again, perhaps in English this time?
>>60316647
>>60316592
>>60316576
You can't tell much from pics.
We're talking about surface finishing that is way too fine to distinguish on your shitty pixel-based monitor, but is obvious as all hell irl.
Try to get your hands on an actual GS, and put a SARB side by side if you can.
I visited a seiko store last week, and handled my first GS.
I went in all skeptical and shit, and for a few seconds after holding the GS I was all "so what's the big deal?".
But then I noticed the polished area of the case. I genuinely thought there was a hole there for a second, it's like a portal to another universe.
And then one thing after the other started catching my eye.
It's pretty unreal.
>>60316755
Fuck off you poor englishfag. You know well what I meant. Do you think you can take pictures like that, and especially when I can look through a high quality macro lens, that I dont know the detailed difference. Pleb
>>60316655
Omega's finish is tragic. Go look at a Speedmaster (any reference). The finish is trash.
The Speedmaster meme can suck my balls.
>>60316807
Okay, that's enough of humoring (You).
>>60313998
how to tell which is which out there?
Why did Omega ruin seamasters with the HEV ("the 2nd crown")?
What kind of an asshole would think that's attractive?
>>60316870
Lighting bolt logo is Daini Seikosha.
>>60316914
I'd be so inclined as to argue that the "0" marker on the bezel is not centred properly.
Also. It's a gas escape valve.
>>60316592
>>60316647
Exactly my point. The only thing the GS has going for it is the clasp, other than that the finishing is exactly the same.
>>60316991
>>60316930
noice, thanks!
>>60316991
This great anon keeps posting pics but this faker keeps posting shit like this >>60316869
By this point my friend we are just humoring ourselves, welcome to /wt/ newfag, now get out.
Remember
>>60316991
Am I the only one who frowns upon non-Euros using Frakturschrift?
>>60317003
I've owned both. And again, this is comparing the SARB to a low end quartz GS, not a higher end mechanical or spring drive model- I will wholeheartedly say (from all that I've seen) the higher end models do have much more interesting case finishing, and as shown here, >>60316508 bracelet finishing as well.
>>60317066
Nobody even knows what that means, literally just a font, just walk away from the keyboard nigga, nobody can hurt you online
>>60317095
But what if I encounter a GS in real life?
>>60317119
Just walk away from the gs and close your eyes like haha
>>60317066
It bothers me too, but it is kind of funny that they copy a western invention and even copy a western font for the brand name
>>60317119
Bow to your master.
Can people tell me anything about Dreyfuss, all I can find online is marketing or reviews of specific models.
Are they a decent low end watch?
Should I just get a nice seiko instead?
>>60317137
>>60317066
The very finest Swiss watches have
"Swiss" or "Swiss made" in English right on the dial.
Don't worry about it.
>>60317210
Get a seiko, then when you learn about watches, you can get something else
>>60316616
Naw, just pointing out the trend of posting your car with your watch.
>>60317132
Top bant
>>60317417
>>60317430
>>60317061
>that one guy who would get legitimately offended by this image
I wonder if he's on Reddit now
>>60317557
Wat. when/who was this?
>>60317704
Not long after that image started getting posted.
He wasn't around for long. But he was clearly a butthurt kike.
>>60317745
The image is retarded though because Omega is owned by Lebanese Christians, not Jews.
>>60317771
Yes, but made in switzerland by the mountainjews which my oc refers to
>>60317771
Precisely. Even less of a reason to get your stupid fucking feelings hurt. 4chin 101
>>60318158
>>60318158
>>60318158
new thread
>>60309380
yeah except for the fact that servicing a mechanical is done once every 5 years and costs like twice as much. An Ecodrive is once every 20 years and costs not much more than the cost of a battery.
>>60316952
lel even in the renders it's a piece of shit