/wt/ watch thread

>>60294447
first for shitters

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Second for what dive strap? My criteria:
>18mm
>affordable
>preferably rubber or something similar quality, not chink silicone
>looks good on this old piece of shit

>>60294447
Phirst for phisting

>>60294545
Jesus Christ that things is ugly! Ain't no strap that's gonna fix it.

>>60294545
Bonetto Cinturini make affordable natural rubber straps.

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>>60294585
Eyy, fucc yo mudda!

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>>60294545
>looks good on this old piece of shit

>>60294545
ching chong

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Allah please smite them

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What to do with my old G-5600KG? Toss it away to locker and forget it or do people buy these used?

I was wearing it one day for the longest time and after steel watches it just feels wrong.

>>60294797
I'll take it off your hands for $10, reverse the polarisation and hydro mod it, and wear it.

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>daily reminder f-91w are for niggers :^)

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Mechanical watches aren't accura-

Are Nixon watches shitty?

>>60295134
Very.

>>60295134
Yes, how can you even ask this question.

>>60295134
Extremely shitty

>>60295178
Figured they were just another fashion watch like MK or some shit.

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>walking down the road wearing my Casio Oceanus OCW-S100-1AJF
>casually enjoying my wristwatch; changing time zones and observing as the hands adjust themselves swiftly and accurately
>Ah, this watch is consistently accurate to within a few milliseconds, I think to myself
>Still enjoying the watch, I am lost in my thoughts
>suddenly I am accosted by a man on a bright yellow motor scooter
>he shouts at me, claiming that he is armed and that I should give him my money and valuables
>trained in the art of combat, I resist
>in the fray I notice that he's wearing a Rolex Datejust
>I scoff
>he notices that I've seen his watch and he appears to take offense at my scoffing
>"This is a Rolex Datejust," he says
>"The patina is from my father and his father before him"
>I bet you purchased that on eBay, I say
>"N-no," he begins
>"a-and it has mountains more soul than y-your Casio ever wi-"
>Let me stop you there, I say
>Do you have the time?
>Because I do, and I will not give it to you

>>60294585
>>60294607
>>60294742
>>60294760
Honestly we don't know what is the next vintage fad these rich hipsters might pick up. Fuck these can be the next $350k Tudor. I mean we don't know, I'm sure the Tudor was unassuming as well. We just don't know, and none of us are watch experts.

>>60295462
Jesus whatever but it doesn't look any better with 350k price tag.

>>60295446
Casios are for poor people and niggers, mate. They ruined themselves with the G-Shock. I'd much rather have a fucking Datejust than a Casio.

>>60295446
>oceANUS
'nough said about that casio shitter.

I've noticed Orient's look pretty good. How are the Makos?

>>60295462
How is this an argument for it not being fucking ugly?

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Finally got myself a good watch, $75 from a Garage Sale for a Swiss Made 50m waterproof watch. It didn't have a battery and strap so I had to go to a watch store to change the batt and get a new strap. What do you guys think?

>>60295551
>>60295491
Because the Tudor is ugly IMO. Like you calling the Vostok ugly IN YOUR OPINION.

>>60295536
Bretty gud.
Bezels can be shit if they aren't aligned properly.
But the finish tends to be acceptable considering the price, bracelets are exceptional.

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>>60295584
But is it worth $173?

>>60295603
Only you can decide, anon.

>>60295565
Looks cool anon. The strap matches the dial which I like.

>>60295565
you're going to get roasted by autistic people ITT but it's ok

I wouldn't have paid $75, especially not from a garage sale

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>>60295565

Such a beauty wear it in good health buddy

>>60295582
Is there anything really expensive out there that has a look a like of that vostok or vica versa? I think we do have that with the tudor/subs etc. overall. People agree they look good.

>>60295736
If you can afford a Sub, get one. Tudor is fine as well. Or you can get a Tag Heuer

>>60295582
Then why bring up the price?

>>60295565
I hope thats a fucking joke, who would ever pay 75 bucks for non working watch?

>>60295565
I hope it's really titanium. As it's the only good thing about it.

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Why didn't you buy a Rolex after I informed you about that you should own a Rolex?

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>>60295777
>Or you can get a Tag Heuer
Or you can just throw money in the toilet and flush it away.

>>60296119
Would you rather have a Vostok?

>>60296126

Yes, at least it's a smaller loss.

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>>60296119
>tfw you try to literally flush money but the toilet but it clogs
>just like a shitter

So wait archer watches is better than shane?

>>60295921
It's working after a new battery. Also the lady said I could bring it back if it doesn't work.

>>60296126
Yes.

>>60296126
>>60296149
Vostoks increase in value over time, just like Rolex. They're literally the only two brands that do this.

TAG loses a fourth of its value the moment you take it out of the store and another third when the first scratch appears on the buckle.

>>60296279
>Vostoks increase in value over time, just like Rolex. They're literally the only two brands that do this.

Patek Philippe.

>>60296279
I just bought one for 99¢ on ebay, I honestly don't know how its going to go up from that...

>>60296208
Some people might argue that Al Archer has an even stronger reputation than Shane does, but does that mean Al is better? I have no idea, because I'm very happy with Shane's work and wouldn't take my stuff anywhere else.

It may just be that Al participates online more (e.g. on the Omega forums) whereas Shane barely does email.

>>60296294
Yeah, but if you're the first owner you'll be dead by that time.

>>60296279
>Vostoks increase in value over time, just like Rolex. They're literally the only two brands that do this.
Not exactly.

It's more like Rolex and Patek are the two luxury watch brands that maintain their value the best on the second hand market. There are SOME rolex models and some patek models that have actually increased in value, but it's certainly not their whole range. Don't think you can go buy some random calatrava or oyster perpetual (or the old air king) and think you've got a sound investment for your retirement.

Rolex and Patek lose the least value, unlike virtually all other watch brands which depreciate by varying degrees as soon as you wear it out of the store.

I know nothing about vostoks, their collectability, and what models have actually appreciated in value accordingly.

>>60296304
I'm just checking out Als site and its interesting that he makes and sells his own watches as well. I really want one now ... Now he's an hour and a half away from me but Shane is only 30-45 minutes and I need to spend a weekend in Toronto soon anyways so I'll probably see him. How much does he charge for a quote?

Basically the story is I dropped my Sinn and from running fast to running slow. It also appears to stop spookily close to the same time when it runs out of time. And now recently my crown stem makes a grinding noise when turning. Either way I'm pretty upset and worried I'll get rape pricing. Is he fair ?

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>>60296359
Green Neptunes, MO/military models, first-gen Amphibias, 300m Amphibias all have ridiculously inflated prices.

>>60296422
BEAUTY

>>60296422
That's honestly pretty ugly and the band looks fucking weak.

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Looking for recommendations: I am going to buy a friend a watch for his birthday- hard budget is $1300. Can be grey market new or very lightly used. Looking for a watch on the sportier side, between 36 and 40mm, on a bracelet, and mechanical. Preferably no day or date, but this is going to be very hard to find, so it's not that important.

So far my #1 choice is the Oris Sixty Five. Really well designed watch with one of the most neatly integrated date windows I've seen.

I've also considered a lightly used Tudor Oysterdate, Sinn 104 (just wish that this didn't have day/date, it ruins what would otherwise be a great design), and perhaps one of the new Tag Heuer Aquaracers with the textured dial. Any thoughts?

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Still using this. Haven't found anything else interesting.

>>60296478
I'm sorry your gay.

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>mfw I have four bids via proxy vendor for watches

IF ANY OF YOU FUCKING SNIPES THESE, I AM GOING TO PERSONALLY SKULL FUCK YOU.

>>60296279
>TAG loses a fourth of its value the moment you take it out of the store and another third when the first scratch appears on the buckle.
I think it's even more than that.

Go on Chrono24,
>filter Tag Heuer
>filter Condition:0
That will show you all the grey market shit that tag dealers flood the grey market with for whatever reason (to maintain stock, due to slow sales or whatever). Compare these Condition:0 offerings with new, in-store pricing to see just how much of a shitter a TAG really is.

>>60296576
Here's some TAG production data:

In 2013 they had 500 employees (unknown amount of watchmakers, I'd say very, very few and mostly sales and marketing people) and churned out 750,000.

By 2016 they had doubled their staff, and have no doubt increased production accordingly. LVMH only care about the bottom dollar, more so than other conglomerates and that's why they're so despised; LVMH buying a brand out signals the death knell for quality for that brand.

With numbers like these, one can only surmise that TAG outsources a fuck load of their production to elsewhere. Chinese bracelets and case blanks perhaps? What about dials, hands etc.,? Would not surprise me. If Omega does it, TAG definitely does it. Movements, well, that's obvious and widely known.

They're shit. Mallbait for morons. Either buy something cheaper that's actually better, or buy something actually better that'll cost more.

Unless of course you really have a hard on for something they make and can get one for a price that reflects their true value (very, very reduced from retail price), or you're just made of money and don't mind buying semi-disposable garbage for shits and giggles.

The only people I know and see with TAG are the grossly uninformed and discerning.

TAGs are for fags, and not the stylish, homofags, I mean your real garden variety faggot.

>>60296495

>I am going to buy my friend a watch
>$1,300

How badly are you trying to fuck this guy, Anon? It's okay, we're all gay here.

>>60296422
Way better than the vostok there before.

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Who /insideofthewrist/ here?

>>60296422
>Neptunes
Interesting. A decade ago they were already hard to find. Still, I'm surprised at the prices these things can go for now!

>>60296611

Not only are you not high-speed low-drag, but you insult all southpaws with your faggot shit.

>>60296595
>and UNdiscerning.
ftfm

>>60296519
Wristshot please. That watch looks puny in your hand. It looks robust.

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>>60296611
>Who /insideofthewrist/ here?
I am. But because I live in a 3rd world country most of the time and doing so helps to prevent incitement theft.

Not that this helps since my watches were stolen from my home anyway by the maid so I only have my beater damasko left to warm the inside of my wrist lmao - habits.
It's why I've started frequenting these threads again; I'm thinking about replacements.

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How does /wt/ feel about this watch?

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>>60296815

>>60296815
I quite like it.
But.
>44mm

>>60296719

Sorry for your lots Anon.

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>>60296663
It's getting dark and the quality is crap so you are gonna have to live with this.

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>>60296719
>It's why I've started frequenting these threads again; I'm thinking about replacements.
I'm sure one of the poorfags around here will be willing to be your new maid.

>>60296719
Have you considered slicing a bitch?

>>60296836
The bezel is 43 mm, and that's how large the watch is visually.

The case itself is around 45 mm, but it's hidden behind the bezel.

Also, those lugs go straight down, making it a very good fit.

I have 7" wrists and it looks absolutely fine.

>>60296927
Good to know.
That only leaves the pet peeve of mine, which is Seiko doing that half arsed knurling. On and off shit.

>>60296416
Shane literally charges a third of what most watchmakers do for the same work. He does services on time/date movements for $150 maple syrup bux, as an indication.

What you'll end up paying depends entirely on whether the movement needs any parts, and if so, which.

>>60296815
I like the ceramic bezel

>>60296862
Yeah sucks ass. I had the explorer 1 for like a decade and it was a graduation present. The seamaster for less than a fucking year 6months tops. Occasionally the rage returns to me full force.

>>60296891
>I'm sure one of the poorfags around here will be willing to be your new maid.
But can they clean? Good help is really hard to find these days (no, seriously, ever since the old staff died out we've had a rotating number of pathetic, suspicious and mostly illiterate drones; cheap imports from neighboring countries shittier than this one).

>>60296893
>Have you considered slicing a bitch?
I considered more, but I didn't have a gun license then and bribing the police to look for her and then bribing them again to return whatever they might have found would've been such a fucking hassle. Yes, it's that kind of country.

>>60297210
>But can they clean?
I can't vouch for that.

>>60297210
Phuck me dead you lost a rollie because of that cunter thief? I'm sorry for ur loss man

>>60294990
good thing I have an ae1200whd-1a

>>60296815
As someone who strictly wears bracelets I think it's Seiko's best looking diver. If you need other strap options though it's no good.

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Had the SARB017 for five years now, this was the first non-quartz watch I ever owned. Wore it day and night almost constantly.

Here are my thoughts:

>was pretty amazing to see for the first time, and still catches my eye to this day
>lume is still as bright as ever
>accuracy isn't all that consistent, but very good nonetheless in general
>I want something a little bigger now
>the red in the little "north" triangle on the compass bezel has faded almost to grey
>when you start turning the compass crown, the compass bezel itself shows some play (goes off-center just a hair at the very start of its movement)

>>60297704
That bracelet really is fantastic irl. Width, thickness, shape of the links, brushed surface, ... everything. Beautiful.
I want a bracelet, but not having the option of a nato kind of sucks. Maybe Seiko will release some kind of adapter.

Maybe

;_____;

>>60298130 daily (You)

>>60296495
>I am going to buy a friend a watch for his birthday-hard budget is $1300

Jesus Christ

>>60296495
>Sinn 104 (just wish that this didn't have day/date, it ruins what would otherwise be a great design)
This.

Funny how an added day complication cheapens a watch.

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>>60298185
>>60296598

I'm actually buying it for my old man- wish I had a higher budget to get him a proper luxury piece, but I'm still in school, so that's what I've been able to save up for it.

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>>60296495
Damasko DA36 plus bracelet fits your budget.

>>60298290
$1300 can get some very nice watches, some very understated pieces too. Some vintage omegas in very nice condition can be found for a lot less, with a budget like that, you could well get something very, very nice if you were so inclined to go vintage.

>>60296815
>>60296830
Why must Seiko stress that their watches are for DIVERS ONRY.

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>>60298369
>He doesn't know

>>60298343
Yeah, I've definitely been looking at vintage Omegas- especially the Geneve Dyamic range. It can definitely be a bit of a gamble though, but I'm certainly not against going vintage.

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>>60298389
Any particular vintage brands I should look for besides Omega that fit my criteria?

>>60298389
Check with local jewelers. always worth a shot.
I know at my local, one of their customers has just dropped in an Explorer II for servicing, but they have mentioned that he's not against the thought of selling it.
May get lucky and find some elderly gent selling some of his watches to fund a grandchild's car? Leave some money?
Always worth asking.

>>60298369
If I recall correctly, Seiko only puts that label on watches ISO certified as divers.

>>60298407
Omega should be one to look for in particular, as their vintage models are extremely nice.
But you should maybe go on the hunt for older Grand Seikos perhaps, or even perhaps hunt around for a rather nice PenisQuartz, though they have achieved somewhat of a meme status here, they are fantastic pieces with beautiful dials and case work.

>>60295603
it's worth $150 on the bracelet for sure

>>60295565
the price is a bit steep, but that's not a terrible watch i suppose.
it being swiss made doesn't make it good, by the way.

>>60298657
This is correct.

The mention "diver's" on any watch implies compliance with ISO 6425, which in turn means every single watch is individually tested for a number of things like strength, water tightness, magnetic resistance, ...

>>60295978
i still don't have the money friendo

>>60296126
yes. if i had a tag and i couldn't get rid of it for some reason, i'd rather wear a vostok than it.

>>60296311
do you have less than 5 years to live anon?

>>60296495
I like how Damasko has integrated the day and date in their watches, and supposedly their bracelet is great. The whole hardened steel think is neat too.
DA38 and bracelet should be in budget.

The Oris is a great watch by the way. You may be able to find a used Longines Legend Diver for that price, the first gen didn't have a date.

>>60296615
they're making new ones every couple of years

>>60296815
i like it, but i'm really not a fan of integrated bracelets, unless it's on something like a RO where it makes sense. this still has quasi-lugs.

>>60298897
>The mention "diver's" on any watch implies compliance with ISO 6425
does it though? anyone can put diver's on their watch if they so please, and most iso-rated divers don't have it.

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r8

>>60299248
4/10 go back to /fa/

Is this a legit site?

http://www.creationwatches.com/

>>60299078
You can get away with "divers" but "diver's" is only allowed on ISO certified watches. It's literally part of the standard.

Not him but following up on that /steampunk/ line >>60290953 what then would be a typical cyberpunk watch.

We are all for segmentation, right? Right?

>>60299484
Yes.

>>60299484
yes

>>60299501
oh it is? weird. so what would happen if i sold a watch with "diver's 500m" on the dial and it was not water resistant?

>>60299525
a nixie tube watch?

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I've questions for the watch gods:

How can there be a higher level of finish re polished stainless? a mirror polish is a mirror polish, no?

is the spring drive movement considered mecha-quartz?

Is Presage's level of finishing *really* better than Sarb-level?

>>60299525
A watch with no strap, it's integrated into your forearm.

>>60299554
>what would happen
What happens when you commit any act of fraud?

>>60299584
Someone could polish something better. Also, someone could polish something that's more difficult to polish, or use a finishing technique that is more difficult to accomplish. I mean, you do see the stuff on the image you posted, right?

>is the spring drive movement considered mecha-quartz?
No

>>60299584
I'd hardly put the finish of the 3.96 behind that of the 240 in regards to what we see in these specific images.

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If you have questions, please see this chart. It should answer 99% of the questions you have.

Please leave this thread for good horological discussion and wrist shots of good timepieces.

>>60299646
"someone could polish something better". oh.

Since the spring drive is a hybrid of quartz and a mechanical movement, why isn't it referred to as a mecha quartz?

>>60299704
Because mechaquartz refers to a specific thing, including the fact that it's regulated and driven by a battery and small electric motor. While a spring drive is driven by a.. you know, spring.

>>60299670
no
>>60299704
I don't know that's why I asked

>>60299584
>How can there be a higher level of finish re polished stainless? a mirror polish is a mirror polish, no?
Apparently not.

Rook up Grand Seiko Zaratsu porishshing 1000 times porished and then folded croth 1000 times and porish agen with magic croth.

Consider the hands and applied indicies on any given grand seiko with a black dial. Consider for example a nomos orion with a black dial and applied steel indicies and hands.

100% the hands and indices are finished in such a way as to capture and reflect as much light as possible, so that unless you're in absolute darkness and not normal urban nighttime where there's at least some fucking light coming from somewhere, you're still going to be able to make out the time on this unlumed watch.

The nomos orion's hands and indicies, though also highly polished, are not finished in such a way as to properly reflect light. In fact I have trouble reading it when it's in the display case in store at certain angles, whereas the GS just sparkles at any angle of view.

>>60299584
Chopard and Patek's is just sloppy.

Also the market's inundated with Pateks, devaluing most of their references (and the name).

>>60299816
Considering volume, I think "sloppy" is unfair. They produce far greater numbers than the "family" swiss manufacturers.

>>60299798
THIS is a well-thought out answer. Thank you. Do you approve of the Presage-level finish?

NineBall you're losing credibility at an exponential rate.

>>60299860
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

>>60299901
I'll try English. You're losing credibility with your sloppy attempt at answers.

>>60299584
Are the top two supposed to have that chattering on the bevels?

>>60299932
Define "sloppy."

>>60299932
nineball.

THIS is an answer >>60299798

>>60299958
I want to know what you think about this watch: >>60296815

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do you guys approve of pic related?

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>>60299584
>>60293139
>Is the anglage on the PP supposed to have those lines?
No. It shouldn't. Though I'm going to assume that if the owner of such a sloppily finished patek took it in for patek's take on it they'd get fed that tired old:
>"it's within our tolerated levels, so suck a dick you whore and keep buying our shit out of a misguided sense of self and identity because you live a life so shallow and empty of meaning that you start to pin your idenity to inanimate objects and brands belonging to massive corporate entities that don't give a shit about you and only care for profit and you'll defend said brand to the death from those nasty haters because any perceived slight to that brand casts aspersions on your own self worth because you no longer have your own identity and are simply empty"

Mind you most of that is implied and left unsaid.

>>60300010
>Mind you most of that is implied and left unsaid.

Pretty sure that's word for word Omega's official warranty.

>>60296815
I don't approve of the planet ocean's angles. or the lugs.

the finish on the SPB051 and SPB053 is *AMAZING*

I've got about £200 (uk) to spendon a watch?

I want something with a metal bracelet, though I'm not really sure what'll last in the long run, in terms of different brands and their watches movements.

Tempted to get a casio edifice watch, but not really sure, since I don't know much about watches.

>>60300053
What finish?

>>60299992
I may get the blue one still but it's a pretty big downgrade from the actual cocktail time for not much less money.

>>60299961
That's not me you replied to. And while GS's attention to detail is great and I am aware of the things he's mentioned as I've mentioned it before, I mean -- I own one. While he demonstrates that the amount of thought that goes into the finishing and design of the overall watch can be very important and greatly varied he doesn't really talk about an individual surface finish.

The real answer to to the question
>a mirror polish is a mirror polish, no?
is no. Straight up, plain, simple, no.


>>60299974
Little expensive, but I wouldn't tell someone not to buy it if they really like it.

>>60300078
Seiko SKX007/009 runs around £200.
Orient Makos are a little smaller, just as nice.

>>60299860
>Do you approve of the Presage-level finish?
I didn't even know about this line. To be honest when I visit the shops am am oogling seiko stuff I make a beeline for the GS counter. I'll have a look next time as they seem interesting. Did presage have a run with urushi dials like year ago?

>>60299860
>>60299798
>whereas the GS just sparkles at any angle of view.
And I really mean this; they sparkle like diamonds and the dials maintain ultimate visibility. Well, except the silver dial models because it's fucking dumb to have silver on fucking silver; have fun looking at that in harsh sunlight and making out the time at a glance.

So many makers neglect hands and indices, if they're applied. One thing I really admire about GS is that they spend so much attention to crafting and designing them so that they work "without lume" as it were.

>>60299860
Presage is a line that covers a large price range, the top end stuff like my SARK005 is very nice looking but falls short of my Citizen grand classic in a number of areas. The lower end stuff though like SARX015 for example is handsome but not noteworthy.

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>>60297745
Sounds like pretty much all the issues stem from the compass bezel. Really wish they had made a SARB017 without the bezel, would have made it the perfect watch.

>>60300212
Is it discontinued now?

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Since the discussion's turned towards finishing, I'd like to steer the thread's attention to this little Austrian brand (the only austrian brand) called Habring2 (stupid name).

Pic related is one of their inhouse movements. It struck me that it's obviously finished to a high degree, meticulous as is expected of a master watchmaker. BUT IT'S SO BORING.

Anyway, weird company. Mastered the art of modularity and they oddly ship a spare mainspring with all their watches. Their designs are boring as fuck too imo.

>>60300277
Funnily enough someone here has one, might be nineball actually now that I think about it.

>>60294545
Mesh?

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>>60295134

>>60300277
>stupid name
It's his name.

>>60300293
I think there's a couple anons who have looked at getting one. I know Avacado was looking to get a jumping second pilot -- which is going to look very mundane to the uninitiated. But yeah I got mine.

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>>60295565
>good watch
>Wenger

>>60300293
It would be interesting to hear their experiences with the watch.

This company intrigues me. Tiny production, some true innovation, weird business model. They recently created the only water resistant minute repeater lol. It's a company I want to like for so many reasons, as for example they have some interesting complications for decent prices, but their designs just don't speak to me.

>>60300353
>But yeah I got mine.
Ooh, what model did you get? The jumping second pilot? Anything to report? Good? Bad?
(pics?)

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>>60300387
COS Chronograph. Someone at a distance could easily think it's a regular 6497 movement watch. Very stealth.

It's working well. I have it on black sailcloth.

>>60300353
No, his name is not Habring2.

>>60300467
But there are two of them.

>>60300454
Ooh very nice. It's nice to see a chrono without all those extra buttons. Do you find yourself wearing it much?

>>60300353
>It's his name.
Yeah I know, I just kept reading it as Habring^2. "Habring Squared" is kinda a mouthful for a watch name. I'll likely never see one in person so it's sight unseen if I were to ever order.

>>60300594
I wear it a decent amount. Not as much as my GS or SKX, but I like it.

I just say "Habring" generally.

They make like 200 watches a year, it used to be more like 50. You may see one in the wild someday.

That being said any particular model might be hard to find. Like if you wanted to see another COS Chrono like mine -- he will only make 12 a year of them or less.

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Should I get this? The seller has 0 feedback but it clearly says authentic.

>>60300647
lel sure m8 but first come over here so you can suck my authentic dick with your authentic mouth and swallow my authentic cum and then we'll settle down in an authentic house and have lots of authentic children

>>60300688
if you say so, as long as it's authentic

>>60300688
ok

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which should I buy senpai?
still on the fence about these two
is the Seiko Dolce 4x nicer than this Tissot? because that's the price difference
10SPY is cool but I don't care that much

>>60300740
cocktail time

>>60300647
If you get it, have it inspected for authenticity at a reputable jewelers or watchmaker. If it's fake, take it up with eBay, and you've got a free watch.

>>60300773
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Unless the seller disappears off the face of the planet and PayPal says
>sorry :^) ebin

>>60300792
It's nearly a certainty that eBay will side with you if it's fake.

>>60300809
I need to ask my mommy for her credit card, but she'd decline any way. If you want a free fake:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=222504903665&globalID=EBAY-US

>>60300767
looking for smaller and quartz

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>>60300833
You're the seller, aren't you Anon?

>>60300740
the Seiko is way classier m8, more modern and less 'fake' looking

>>60300863
>more modern
eh doesn't bother me much, I like classic
>less 'fake' looking
w-what?

>>60300858
No, I'm the faggot with $6000 burning a hole in my pocket. I want a bronze BB but a free fake seems like a good deal.

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lads, if I gave you ~$2000US to spend on a pilot-style chronograph, what would you buy?

preferably something versatile and of heirloom quality

>>60300898
Zenith Pilot, used

>>60300740

Look at the finishing on the Seiko nigger. How is this a question?

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>>60300873
the Tissot has a weird raised bezel which I just associate with all the shiity fakes I've seen in SEA. sorry man. might also be the Roman numerals, the font just looks a little janky

>>60301219
you just want me to spend more money and buy a wiener dog don't you

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>>60301234
just look at the lil' fella

>>60300740
just pick whatever you like more and stop spamming this

>>60294447

tick tock

>>60300262
Not sure, but there's been photos of the new models so It's probably not going to be around much longer if it isn't.

>>60299584
A mirror polish is most definitely not a mirror polish. The image your posted does a good job of showing some of the differences. The Patek and Chopard in that image have machine cut anglage (the beveled edges you see on all the parts in the image) and you can still see the machining marks on the anglange on those two because no further work was done to refine the polish of those after they were machined.

On the Lange you can see that the anglage was polished after being machined such that it is a fairly highly polished finish. However, you can also see that the finish on the anglage on the Lange has a somewhat hazy effect to it, probably because it was polished in only one or two steps.

Finally, the Doufour has clearly had far more work put into the polish, probably including hand polishing to achieve a true mirror polish. It is clearly in another league than even the Lange.

Now, as to why this is the case, the answer is that achieving a very clear, shiny, distortion free mirror takes many more steps and much more time than roughly approximating a mirror polish. This is because the finish on metals is, at the microscopic level, a series of ridges and valleys created by the abrasive used to shape or finish the metal. Polishing metal is ultimately about replacing larger peaks and valleys with smaller peaks and valleys using successively finer and finer abrasives.

As a result of this, there is a limit to how many steps you can skip and still achieve a true mirror polish because if you skip too to fine an abrasive too quickly, that abrasive simply won't be able to replace the large peaks and valleys with the much smaller peaks and valleys of the fine abrasive in the amount of time they are spending on it.

TBC

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what's up with mechanical movements and specifications saying "+/- x seconds per day"?
do you really have to reset the time that frequently?

>>60299584
Continued from >>60301701

An extreme example of this seen in case/dial/hands and bracelet finishing, as >>60299798 pointed out, is seen with Grand Seiko who use several steps including literal hand polishing (i.e. manually without a powered wheel) to achieve a true, distortion free mirror polish. You can see some of the polishing work they do in this video about their Spring Drive models:

https://youtu.be/A6zD1j7U-0A

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>>60299992
I initially thought I'd like the blue but I'm rather taken with the brown actually.

>>60299992
>>60301798
Why not both?

>>60301798
that's pretty delicious

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>>60301709
>do you really have to reset the time that frequently?

Not me.

>tfw +/-0s

>>60301466
>spamming
calm down retard

Does anyone know about the ETA 6498 movement

Black Bay or Pelagos? My wrist diameter is 5.7" if it helps...

>>60300740
Fucking kill yourself.

>>60301926
That watch is rated to +/-10s per year. Since you started posting that it statistically would've gained or lost a second at least

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>>60302019

It did gain a second. But memes must continue.

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>>60300898
>>60300917
Can you even get a used Zenith Pilot for that price?

Assuming you cannot get a Zenith for that price, the only sensible answer I can think of is a vintage Lemania 5100 chronograph as I despise the Valjoux 7750 and Seiko doesn't make a pilot style 8rXX.

The Lemania 5100 is probably also the truest automatic pilot's chronograph ever made as the chronograph minute and second hand are directly driven and thus the chronograph function is much more shock and g-force resistant than on virtually any other mechanical chronograph.

>>60301798
this is fucking gorgeous.

Question: is the case bronze?I've never done a gold-toned watch...

>>60302007
black bay 36 pls

>>60301709
Well, first off you should understand that the specifications for a mechanical movement are giving the absolute maximum amount of deviation in any position that are considered within spec and which will not require a warranty paid for regulation by the maker.

Those specifications are not typically representative of the kind of accuracy most examples of that given movement will achieve, and especially not indicative of what kind of accuracy will be achieved in regular wear (because wearing an automatic regularly keeps it wound and most movements deviate more at half-wind or less than at full wind.

Most movements can also be regulated by the owner or a watchmaker to run quite a bit closer to accurate than the specification for the movement would suggest. As an example, the fairly inexpensive Miyota 9015 movement can typically be regulated to gain or lose five seconds a day or less in regular wear, which is far better than the specified accuracy.

Higher end production movements which have been adjusted and regulated better at the factory (a labour intensive process of improving the accuracy of the movement at the factory) are typically have much less positional variation (i.e. different rates in different positions e.g. crown up vs. crown down), have less isochronism (change in rate as the mainspring loses power), and change in rate less when worn compared to not worn.

These smaller deviations from the set rate of the movement mean they both tend to be MUCH more accurate from the factory but also that they can be regulated to pretty impressive levels of accuracy for a machine literally made out of springs, gears, and levers. I have two automatic watches that run very close to +0 seconds per day when worn, another two that run close to +2 seconds a day when worn.

At those kinds of accuracy levels, there wouldn't really be much of a need to set the time on the watch more than once or twice a month, which isn't really that bad.

>>60302198
It's gold plated in all likelihood.

>>60302094
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=201907384654&globalID=EBAY-US
>>60302240
probably toned steel

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>2017
>not liking a Sinn 104 because it's German Made
>calibre SW220-1, a Sellita ebauche at a grade the manufacturer calls "Premium – Chronometer Quality."
>immaculate finish
>approved by Hodinkee

Why don't you like it?

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What colour watch straps do you wear? I stick to black and white.

>>60300052
My sides have reached escape velocity.

>>60302279
>>60302297
these graphics are for fucking autists with no taste

>>60302323

Bullshit. Black straps look great on black people.

It's the one black / watch thing I've noticed.

>>60302273
Because I'm not paying Sinn prices for an off-brand ETA 2824-2, thanks. I'd rather have a Damasko DA36 for thar kind of money.

>>60302094
thanks for your response - that's a nice watch.

that particular version is a little busy for my liking though, I'd prefer something with a more legible dial (a la Damasko perhaps).

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>tfw chubby ETA V 7750

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>>60302432
HOMOS: this is how it's done

>>60302373
SICK damasko's look so NASTY with their bead-blast "finish"

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>>60302478
The tegimented Sinns have a similar look to them.

>>60302518
I REFUSE to wear hardened steel watches, unless it's 904 stainless, or nicely-finished hardened steel.

I find that bead-blasted look wretched in all regards (that goes for you too, titanium)

>>60302545
904L isn't a 'hardened' steel though, is it? IIRC it's just more corrosion resistant.

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>>60302401
If you were going to go Damasko for this, I'd seriously consider trying to save up a bit more to get the DC 56 Si, as the use of their in-house free sprung balance silicon escapement is a VERY big upgrade on a normal Valjoux 7750.

>>60302478
It's a tool watch. The finish is functional on a case hardened to 60 HRC. It's also low glare.

>>60302555
>904L isn't a 'hardened' steel though, is it?
Correct, it is not. 904L is softer, similar to a mild steel.

>>60302012
retard

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>>60302273
I like it, but it would be so much more desireable if it didn't have the day/date. Hell, even if just the day was gone it would be so much better, Seikos and Day Dates are pretty much the only acceptable watches with the complication.

>>60302002
Nine ball you usually know shit can you shed some light into this movement if you've heard of it?

Also why so scarce lately

>>60302002
the hand-winding movement?

>>60302970
Yes

>>60303006
it's a robust movement. it's been around for decades and decades. they used to use them in old pocket watches.

they can be decorated (some are museum-grade), and they're extremely accurate.

>>60302933
It's a 6497 only instead of seconds at 9 it's at 6. Old pocket watch movement. Big but very solid. Serviceable by anyone.

>>60302933
>Also why so scarce lately
Very busy. Lot of things I want to do, lot of things on my mind. And I've been avoiding the weekends here mostly because this thread goes to complete shit on weekends.

>>60303049
have you ever considered creating a micro brand?

you have several watch gods in these threads...

you have no excuses not to, desu.

>>60303307
>you have no excuses not to, desu.

Aside from the huge upfront costs?

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>>60303049
fuck off ninefag

>>60302866
is that a 944

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>>60303307
Honestly 90% of the success of a microbrand is drumming up support for you kickstarter and paying worn and wound to give you a good review and all sorts of social media bullshit hype.

I mean, I've thought about it, and I'm sure if I could hire the right marketing team it could be done. But.. eh.

>>60303341
actually, looks more like a 924/911 of that era

>>60303307
>>60303353
I definitely don't think it would work involving several of us since most of us have pretty different tastes in watches aesthetically. I don't see how you'd even get two of us to agree on a design.

Leaving that aside, i do think there is room in the market for a microbrand to focus on using the ETA 2892-A2 and its variants at a non-ludicrous price point, as the 2892 is quite a bit better than the ETA 2824-2 and is pretty rare to see in sub-$2,000 watches.

>>60303353
I'm SURE you could find a watch-obsessed WIS marketer who'd join the team

the question is -- do you have a design that the masses would love?

I'm sure you do. Most kickstarters fail of course, so you'd have be smart enough to make it succeed.

>>60303420
speaking for myself, it if were a semi-affordably priced 2892-A2, I'd be all over it, and even moderately attractive, I'd be all over it.

>no dinner plate monstrosities
>maybe following design cues from a 70's Seiko?

>>60303463
>I'm SURE you could find a watch-obsessed WIS marketer who'd join the team
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of time and effort that goes into making a successful social media campaign that will push thru a fulfilled kickstarter.

>do you have a design that the masses would love?
I'm sure I could design a watch within the constraints of having a Chinese company assemble the thing, like all kickstarter watches, and present in an interesting way that people would go for. I really think the stumbling block would be marketing and social media presence.

>>60303518
isn't the A2 a cosc movement?

>>60303530
blech can't you find a machine shop in your country to make the cases for a reasonable price? that would be a pleasant selling point (EVERYTHING'S made in china now)

sure you won't reap a fortune, but there HAS to be semi-affordable way to put together a watch on your home turf

>>60300277
>not Australian

>>60303608
A machine shop in the USA making cases would be expensive. So would assembly of the watch.

You could do it, but there are less expensive selling points out there.

Mudman or Gulfman?

if you suggest a froggy, i'm gonna slap you.

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Corniche has excellent marketing, the normies go feral over Corniche watches
>$5 miyota quartz
>$300 watch

>>60303626
Question: do the machine shops also finish the watch cases?

or are the cases shipped to finishers for brushing/polishing?

>>60303666
Brathwaite and dan wellington, too.

>>60303676
Where, in the USA? Or China?

In the USA I'd ask Weiss watch company who he's been getting his cases from and if they're finishing them too. Otherwise if you're working with a local machine shop you're just going to have to figure out what they're capable of and see what can be done and how you can get what you want.

In china, I'm pretty sure the people making the case are the same people finishing it.

>>60303689
At least the corniche watches look nice
>tasteful design
>roman numerals, blued hands, rounded spring bars
>DW/BW: ugly designs, pathetic case milling, bare-minimum finishing

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>>60303666
>"Limited Edition" right on the dial

>>60303708
that would be really cool @ finding out who Weiss finishes their cases

>>60303892
email him. He'll probably tell you.

>>60303905
Have you had any experience with the official GS straps? Wondering how they are compared to the custom options out there like camille, abp paris, etc.

>>60303975
I only have a GS bracelet, which is great. Otherwise I use Camille.

>>60303987
Too bad camille doesn't ship directly to milkbagland. Not sure what proxy I could use either.

>>60304020
>Too bad camille doesn't ship directly to milkbagland.
weird

>>60304065
Muh CITES regulations, or something.

>>60304020
What kind of straps are you looking for? I know a few sources that are either in milkbagland or ship to it.

>>60304087
I'll either just order the black croc GS strap from seiya, or something custom strap with grey square scale croc on the outside, round scale croc as the lining, and no padding. The 19mm/16mm dimensions don't help either.

I'm about to get my first auto watch.
But i'm between the skx007 and the ray 2 blue, even though i can get the ray2 for 20 bucks cheaper than the skx.

>>60304127
If you want that level of customization and are willing to pay top dollar, why don't you get in touch with Combat Straps? He's located in Montreal as far as I recall and does well regarded custom strap work.

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>>60304157
Maybe, but I ordered a strap from him before and it turned not as well as I'd hoped. Wanted a perforated strap similar to this but the holes were too small, uneven, and there weren't enough rows. He did at least refund me without question.

>>60304150
The Ray is smaller, looks more natural on the wrist

>>60304229
Huh, that's the first I've heard of anyone having a bad experience with the guy. Whelp, in that case I don't think I can be of any help except to mention that the vietnamese dude on eBay has a pretty good selection of 19/16 straps:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_armrs=1&_sofindtype=0&_from=R40&_nkw=19mm+alligator&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D6&_fsradio2=%26LH_LocatedIn%3D1&_salic=216&LH_SubLocation=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

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>>60304283
Yea, I was surprised honestly since he'd made straps with perforations before. Maybe if I ask him for a strap without them it'd be fine.

>>60304519
>fag huehue

>>60304598
:^)

>>60302478
not as PURE as a nice brushed finish but the hardened steel prolly won't get all scratched up

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My wife just got me this for my birthday. I am quite chuffed. Lack of a seconds hand is kind of meh, but other than that, it's a solid watch.

>>60305117
at least it's not a DW

>>60305128
2892 movement in a $600 watch is pretty hard to beat desu senpai.

>>60305117
so what did your wife's son get you?

>>60305117
You should give her some dicking

>>60305163
Well, it doesn't have minute markers so it's DW-tier.

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>>60305182
No kids, been together since we were in college over a decade ago, but I appreciate the sentiment.
>>60305201
That is the plan for the evening!

>>60302007
>My wrist diameter is 5.7"
What the fuck?

>>60300647
>Categories
>eBay motors
>Air cleaner assemblies

What

>>60305226
>That is the plan for the evening!

You should wear the watch while you're doing it to give it a good wind

>>60305225
Only having hour markers is pretty standard for dress watches m8.

>>60302007
You must be 18 years or older to post on this board.

>>60295978
fuck off alfredo we dont all have spaggeti money

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>>60305163
>$500 hamilton has a better movement than a $2000 tudor

Simply ebin.

>>60303420
>>60303518
see
>>60305117
>>60305163

>>60300740
My phriend has that exact Tissot model and it looks really shitty irl. Get the phucking Seiko m8

>>60305117
Phuck her right in the pussy bro

>>60295565
Do they make any modern quartz GMT's in the classic fourth hand style?

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What's with the reddit bracelet fad?

It's that a good way to scratch your watch?

>>60305117
>"Hey bro what time is it?"
>"Well whatever time it is It's 12 minutes to the hour!"

>>60305310
What grade is the hamilton 2892-A2?

What is the cheapest watch that comes with a top grade 2892-A2?

>>60305845
I thinks it's suppose to be a signal to other gay men. Wear it on the crown side to show you're a top and wear it on the 9 o'clock side to show you're a bottom.

>>60305889
>What grade is the hamilton 2892-A2?

Elabore, apparently.

>>60303049
>attract shitposting to yourself
>complain the thread is shit
Ahahaha, you would be that retarded.

>>60305890
Brb asking /csg/ what the best bead bracelets are

>>60300262
They seem to be integrating it into Prospex, like they did with the cucktail time and Presage. Which means it will be more modern-looking.

>>60300740
Yes, the Seiko is worth it. Post pics once you get it.

>>60302007
Both would be too large

>>60302279
Orange, green, black, gray, black and gray, blue and white

>>60304150
The orient is slightly more elegant, the seiko is more of a tool watch. Both are pretty good, depending on what you're looking for.
Also the orient comes on a good bracelet, the seiko not so much.
Can you stretch to a turtle?

>>60304150
Get the fucking ray. Skx is good too but imo orient has better value for the price

>>60299569
That is more steampunk than cyberpunk.

>>60299646
>A watch with no strap, it's integrated into your forearm.
That is closer to the mark. But still, what does it look like? Just an obsidian black face, to follow your inspiration?

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>>60306336
Well I suppose it depends if in your cyberpunk universe people body modifications for transhumanism take the place of ports and attachment points for technology, or truly embedded devices.

>>60302273
I don't like the day function.

Like it a lot otherwise, but the day function makes it look cheap.

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It's almost the middle of may, have you switched to rally and perlon already /wt/?

>>60306856
No I wear a g shock like a normalfag and shower when I feel dirty

>>60305226
>been together since college
How do you keep the fire going? We're bored after just four years.
>inb4 >>adv

>>60306856
Leather is love.
Leather is life.

>>60307070
Try anal :^)

>>60307070
Four? Lucky bastard, I ALWAYS get tired pounding the same pussy after 1 or 2 years, depending how hot she is.
I just want a relationship that lasts a lifetime but apparently I'm too degenerate or something.

Hell, at least I have my Rollie and a nice comfy job.

>>60306856
Perlon on the way for the "dressy" watch. I have a nato on my field watch and an isofrane on my diver, so I'm all set.
Fuck leather.

>>60307118
She aint into that shit, shes obviously saving her anal virginity for the right guy.
>>60307130
Thats the problem, you think a pretty, successful girl with rich parents would be the most fun thing under the sun. Then you realise that she isnt any smarter than the average thot, but keeps herself interesting by not being a slut. And in the end, you have an average girl that even wont try anal. Still somehow hope for marriage because I spend too much on watches and I need a bitch with cash

>>60307208
>together for 4 years
>"saving her anal virginity for the right guy."
What the fuck. I thought cucks were a meme.

>>60306856
Why perlon and not a nato?

>>60307228
Women are insane. Sex is just a way they trap you (no pun intended) into staying with them, so there isnt any logic in saying that spicing things up is going to change things. Obviously I was joking about the anal virginity part, but you'll learn these things once you're 14

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STOP WEARING NATO STRAPS

Perlon >>> NATO

>>60307265
>Sex is just a way they trap you into staying with them
Only the beta males.
Non-betas (i.e. anyone who actually has a good chance of banging random sluts whenever they go out) don't stay with a single chick for sex. Even the hottest babe in the world won't stop them from eyeing other merchandise over time.

>>60307292
y

>>60307070
The sex isn't as frequent or varied as it was when we first got together, but it's still pretty regular and fun (we probably average twice a week or so, whereas for the first few years it was closer to every day). Other aspects of the relationship improved and got more comfy though, which more than compensates for a little less sex imo.
>>60305862
Do you really have that much trouble telling which hour mark is which? I've been wearing analog watches so long it's basically instant to tell what time it is, to the point I would have no problems with a watch without any markings (although I think such watches look bad aesthetically).

>>60299484
Yep and they even mark the package as a 'measuring device' to avoid customs fees.

>>60307320
Just read through their shipping info, and it seems like I would need to pay VAT as a Euro. So their prices even out with all the rest.

>>60300740
Just buy the fucking Seiko you dickhead. We don't want to give you the same advice every fucking thread.

>>60307300
Okay kid, whatever you say
>>60307313
So still keep it going? Even though I want to bang every chick I see that day?

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>>60305117
Nice Sekonda homage m9.

>>60307368
That's your call, and depends on how important new/exciting sex is to you. I enjoy sex, but it's not anywhere close to the most important thing in my life, so I'm content with where I am, and I don't let the pursuit of sex have a ton of influence on my choices in life. Those that place a greater importance on sex may make different decisions.

>>60307342
But because they mark it as low value it slips through the net, I've had 4 watches from them & never paid customs fees. I'm in the UK btw.

>>60307265
What this guy said >>60307300
You've spent 4 years in a boring relationship as a betalord since you're probably too terrified you'll never get pussy anymore if she ever leaves you. You'd probably beg her to stay.

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I swapped the strap on my Zeppelin GMT watch as the fake croc strap that it came with was a bit stiff. I have it on a brown vintage strap from Watch Gecko, I have one on my SARB & it's comfy as fuck.

The watch is much comfier now, looks better too.

As an aside does anyone know why the watch would have 2 sets of lug holes on each side? It's got the set the springbars were in for the standard strap and then a set slightly higher up.

>>60307368
>Okay kid, whatever you say
I'm not kidding.

You could be banging the hottest woman in the world, but after a while the thought of banging some random plain-looking chick with a decent butt becomes MUCH more exciting than mounting the same broad again.

The point is: women shouldn't be able to keep you with sex. That's not how high-functioning humans are wired.
The (promise of) sex is how they get you hooked, but making you breakfast and taking care of you is how they keep you.

>>60307292
Ok grandpa

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>>60307292

>>60307459
So, now is the part where I justify my behavior to a stranger on a korean scribbling board? Come on, either answer if youre the guy that I quoted in my OP a few posts above or post watches. Every other answer is completely unnecessary or stupid.

>>60307474
Drool on and messerschmitt are two watches companies I want just for the name sake.

>>60307520
So whats your point? Fuck bitches, acquire watces? Would that be a summary of all human interactions until I die? Come on, I didnt ask for advice, but this shit is just insane. I had my fair share of slut fucking and I didnt much enjoy it. Some might honestly enjoy it, but I doubt its healthy in the long run.

New thread
>>60307612
>>60307612
>>60307612
New thread

>>60307566
>Drool on
What did he mean by this?

>>60307560
No, and you're arguing with at least two people.

And I seem to be spot on with my analysis.