/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60253034
got the cpu fans fixed but now i cant seem to reboot windows creation key from the usb

>>60253338
RPG maker 2k by Don Miguel?

>>60253068

Underrated post.

>>60253338
>I guess I should probably go for a G460 build?
Yes, it might fall short in a few PCSX2 games though

>>60253380
Don't call your own post an underrated post

>>60253409
>I should probably save up and invest in an i7.
lol no that would be an awful decision
it's still great but not as safe as 4 core cpu would, but it's still fine. PCSX2 still needs a lot of optimization, but the g4560 is a good cpu for it, don't worry.

Nothing but bullies in these generals

>>60253493
better then /a/ posters.

can someone explain the amd ram update shit and what ram 3200mhz ram to get with ryzen? Like some brands of 3200mhz are 2600mhz with ryzen but after update they will be 3200mhz? someone explain?

>>60253553
some ram rated at specific (high) frequencies can't run at said rated frequencies even though they should
it doesn't boot when those frequencies are applied and then go back to default
the update is aimed at fixing this, allowing the high frequencies to work well

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>>60253312
is this a good deal? you get 15% off your first three purchases, and i have $10 in credit. it comes out to around $565. or will new monitors with similar specs be coming out soon? since its only like one of a couple monitors thatre 1440p at 144hz. i feel like thats the sweet spot with current gpus. ive got an r9 390 that im planning to upgrade to a 1080 soon.

>>60253575
so if i get this c16 shit

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B01EI5ZRQY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1494120687&sr=8-3&keywords=ddr4+3200+16gb

it won't be 3200mhz untill after amd updates their shit?

If they do update their shit will the performance of c16 3200mhz still be shittier than with c14 g.skill flare X 3200mhz?

>>60253625
No, generally monitors with built in speakers suck and cost more. I wouldn't get it.

holy fuck I forgot how shitty it is to take apart computers from 2000

I just took apart two workstations from around that time and cut my fingers multiple times. Sharp edges fucking everywhere.

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So question.

I'm thinking of selling my two 1080p 27" IPS monitors and replacing them with a single 4k IPS montior and another 1080p ips monitor in portrait configuration.

Would this be a good choice for a 4k screen?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yfx9TW/lg-27ud58-b-270-60hz-monitor-27ud58-b

>inb4 seeling 1080p ips to buy another
These 2 HP IPS monitors are not vesa compatible and there is no ghetto way to do so.

I plan on just selling these.

>>60253688
>it won't be 3200mhz untill after amd updates their shit?
yes
In fact, it could work even right now. It's pretty random, some manage to make it work and some don't. Some motherboard & kits have more luck than the others but it's still somewhat random.

The bios updates are planned for this month

>will the performance of c16 3200mhz still be shittier than with c14 g.skill flare X 3200mhz?
Yes, but the difference wouldn't be that big. 10 nanoseconds vs 8,75ns.
Most likely wouldn't do any difference in game. What Ryzen loves the most is frequency.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9M3PNN
I have a 4K 60hz monitor already and I chose the motherboard cause it has built-in WiFi. Is this build good? Upgrading from my FX8350 GTX760.

are a gtx1080 and r5 1600 good enough for playing games like The Witcher 3 (high/ultra) at 1440p/120hz?

1440p vs 4k monitor? Which and why?

>>60253809
It's a good high end build, yes
I hope you have the monitor to take advantage of that GTX 1080 though.

>>60253849
Witcher 3 is a quite badly optimized game, as it forces Tesselation x64 on you which eats an enormous amount of FPS. On launch, the GTX 970 had around 40 fps at 1080p.

Does a R5 1600 bottleneck a gtx1080?

>>60253940
what resolution?

>>60253866
High rez if you do photoshopin

144 Hz for vidya, you want a smooth gameplay experience

>>60253953
144hz = 1440p?

>>60254010
144 frame per seconds that the screen will shit out

>>60254029
i'm lost

>>60253940
The 1600 is about 40% faster than the 8350 but look what the 8350 can do at 1080p with the GTX1080 on The Witcher 3.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sWAJHzJK-s

Butting in;

>>60254010
>>60254039

I think you were trying to find out if the 144Hz was a typo or an actual confusion.

>>60254029

You responded to a post that mentioned 1440p vs 4k, two resolutions, and responded mentioning a refresh rate - probably a typo, or just read it wrong or something.

>>60254042
why did geralts voice change from the first two witcher games?

>>60254039
screens have a refresh rate. Corresponds to the number of time it can refresh itself (show a new image, called frame) per second. The higher, the smoother. The vast majority of screens refresh 60 times per second (60hz), some more expensive one can refresh 120 times per second (double the number of different frames per second), 144 times, or even up to 240.

Naturally, 120fps feels much much smoother than 60fps because there's twice the number of frames for the same amount of time.

Here is a slow motion video for you showing how smoother it is:
https://youtu.be/Ax8NxWn48tY?t=1m13s

>>60254039

1440p (hint: the 'p' doesn't matter) = 2560x1440 pixels. 144hz = refresh rate.

>>60254094
>probably a typo,
I think 144hz was what he meant, gamers love smooth framerate more than resolution. Resolution does make more sense for productivity stuff.

>>60254112
>>60254106
>>60254100
>60254100
i think i get it now. so if i play video games, 4k is something i should pass then. i should get 1440p with a 144hz refresh rate because it's cheaper and smoother / less demanding?

Does the type or brand of motherboard you get have an affect on performance and input lag?

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>>60254042

Vishera is shit. Highly clocked vishera (4.5ghz+) is decent because that is the sort of clocks it was originally densgined to hit. Bulldozer is lol on all fronts even with the inherent clock advantage the 81xx chips tend to have versus their 83xx counter parts. The 9370 and 9590 (along with the 8320e and 8370e) are marvels of process maturity. Both show what happens when you can bin for absolute minimum leakage and balls-to-the-wall clocks (and fuck power consumption).

The 9590 is a monster even with bulldozer/vishera's inherent weaknesses but it comes at the expense of being a nuclear reactor.

>>60254158
>The 9590 is a monster even with bulldozer/vishera's inherent weaknesses but it comes at the expense of being a nuclear reactor.
That's where https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6HfXy8A3O4 comes in.

>>60253688

Apparently memory that uses Samsung die's is doing well with Ryzen. The BIOS updates are slowly coming though and seem to be sorting the issue out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6yHjc should i get the 1050ti or wait for the 560?

>>60254207

Wait for Vega

>>60254145
The cheapest and most affordable would be 1080p 60hz. It's what the vast majority of people get because the vast majority of GPU can achieve such resolution & FPS
As you go into higher resolution, it takes a beefier GPU to deal with the increased number of pixels without the framerate tanking below 60hz. 4K for games is really, really demanding, and no GPU can achieve a constant 60 fps at 4K on all game. 1440p is fine even for mid-end $200 GPU.
If you want a higher refresh rate, you will also need a beefier GPU that can have a number of FPS (frame per second) as high (you generally want more though) as your screen's refresh rate. Otherwise, you're gonna need to drop a lot of settings which come at a visual quality cost.
And obviously, if you try to get both higher fps & resolution, it demands an even beefier GPU

1080p 120/144hz is done a lot because it's much more affordable than higher res and doesn't require that much GPU power, while looking very very smooth.

>>60254154
only specs matter
also, i keep seeing you asking about motherboard and i must tell you: if anyone here knew about which motherboard had less input lag, they would tell you. sorry anon.

>>60254213
Vega is high end, not for him.

I have $700 for a gaming rig. Convince me not to just buy the top prebuilt deal of the week on slickdeals.

>>60254187

To be fair you can air cool a 9590 - though only 5 or so air coolers are actually capable of handling it. AMD was smart when offering the consumer version with an AIO (remember the 9370 and 9590 were originally OEM only). Any 250w+ TDP cooler can handle such a beastly chip. That said overclocking a 9590 to 5ghz all cores is mental and is almost entirely domain of water cooling - there are a few that have done it on air but realistically that is 360mm AIO or custom loop territory.

IMO the real test when reviewing a cooler of any sorts should be the 9590. It completley annihilates 99% of air coolers and cripples ALL 120mm rad AIO units.

>>60254246
Prebuilts are never meant for gaming. The CPU is overpowered for the GPU and they always put in shitty components to cut costs, plus 16/32GB to market it to the idiots who think they need a bunch of ram they'll never actually use.

>>60254363
Usually lower price but two sticks are faster in a dual channel system than one stick.

Need cheapo PC for shitposting, no gaymen.

CPU will be G4620.

My problem is finding a motherboard with displayport that can do 4k60fps. Another solution would be a mobo with usb type c and then just buy usb-c to hdmi 2.0 adapter, but who knows if that'll work.

also need it to support 2 hdd and 1 ssd

redpill on me why i shouldn't just get a i5 7600 over a R5 1600 when it comes down to strictly gaming?

>>60254439
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>>60254213
>>60254230
aiming for a decent budget build, not anything high end.
ill probably just go with the 1050ti then, thanks

>>60254449
watch cpu usage
a cpu that hits 100% in today's game and two years old games is not a good cpu

>>60254449

>non gamers-nexus approved footage of watch dogs 2

Delid this!

Joking apart it does highlight the importance of where (within a game) you test.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4dwmjc
is this build okay so far, and what would be a good motherboard for it?

>>60254526

I'd recommend a Ryzen 1700X

>>60254526
Why a 6500 when the 7600 is out? It's 20% faster for only $20 more. Also you don't need a 650W power supply for that rig. 500W is more than enough.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ndwmjc

>>60254526
>$288 for a last gen mid range i5
Buy a 1600X and a B350 mobo

>>60254544
>>60254561
>>60254588
Thanks, I made this a while ago, didn't know about the Ryzen stuff. If I didn't plan on overclocking, would a 1500X be fine?

>>60254576
Is this a serious build?

So.. I'm very new at this, how do I tell at a glance if there will be bottlenecking, and where it will bottleneck?

>>60253598
>poverty
>$140 case

>>60254194
>>60253756
does the c16 ram brand really matter for performance or is it irrelevant? Some of the g.skill ram says it was designed for ryzen.

>>60254629

Any feedback?

>>60254644
Logical Increments has good combinations for any price point.

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How's my wire management?

>>60254624
All Ryzen processors are unlocked, but they aren't good overclockers. A 1500X has two less cores than a 1600X. If you want something cheaper the 1600 is pretty much the same as a 1600X but it doesn't include XFR, which is basically just a stock 100MHz overclock.

>>60254644
Experience. You can also youtube video for reference. Look and see what hits 100% usage first. If your CPU is at 20% usage but your GPU is at 100% then you GPU is the bottleneck. If your CPU is at 100% and your GPU at 20% then your CPU is the bottleneck. Ideally your CPU and GPU should have the same amount of usage.

>>60254624

A 1600 is around $70 cheaper than the intel CPU and will provide more than enough performance for whatever you'll be using your PC for, and comes pre-packaged with a good cooler.

A good motherboard for that is an ASUS Prime B350 Plus. Though you may want to get 2 x 8gb RAM as Ryzen performs better with higher RAM. There have been some issues with ram compatibility with the Ryzen mobo's but BIOS updates are fixing the situation.

>>60254664
Buy a 7600k and a Z270 motherboard. That's a terrible case, you could power this with a 650W PSU easily and you'll do just as well with a 1080Ti. But honestly, it looks like you just chose a bunch of expensive stuff for the hell of it.

>>60254664
The 6950x is a server CPU. No reason you would ever use it for gaming unless you're just trying to show off. the 1500W PSU is overkill for a 500W power draw. A 650W PSU is more than enough for that build. The cooler is a poor choice for that CPU anyways. You'd be better off getting a 7700k and overclocking it to 5GHz on water.

is the stock cooler that comes with the R5 any good? i'm mostly concerned with the noise, stock intel coolers always sounded like aids in my experience.

>>60254758

Seems to work very nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzIIIoSveU0

>>60254690
>>60254714
Thanks, that helps a lot. I guess I don't mind paying a little extra for the 1600X if that's the difference.

Looks like all that's left is a CPU cooler. I can' probably just sort through some popular ones right?

>>60254758
They're supposed to be very quiet, AMD focused on noise when they developed them.

Keep in mind the cooler that comes with the 1500X, 1600, and 1600X is not the same as the one that ships with the 1400.

Is a 1700 considered a highend CPU or is the 7700k only considered high end?

>>60254707
ok.. but is there a way to tell that just by looking at the clock speeds and whatnot? or is it trial by fire learn it as you go process and look up what other people have found?

getting my pc this week but i have no fucking clue how to build it

is it just adult legos

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So will a 1600 OCed to 1600x levels be worth getting if I plan on 120hz vidya?

I mean I know shit like GTA will never ever reach 120 and stay there without full on enthusiast tier bullshit costs but things like MMOs, Overlook, maybe the next Battlefront / Battlefield if they aren't shit.

Would it be fine for that?

>>60254781
I think the NH-D15 is the go to dual tower choice, the CRYORIG H7 is definitely the best value. But apparently the cooler that comes with it is decent too.

>>60254781

The Cooler Master 212 Hyper EVO comes with the correct bracket to fit on the Ryzen. It seems to do very well. I mean if you don't want to overclock the 1600 that's fair enough but even a stock 1600 will perform very well, and the value compared to the 1600X is alot better.

>>60254794
no that's an AR-15. This is adult erector set.

>>60254803
>>60254807
Oh, the site is telling me it doesn't come with a cooler. I'd prefer to keep the stock one then if that's the case.

Thanks for your help, guys.

Looking at upgrading my gpu from a GTX650 (currently have a i5 4460, so fairly sure it is the gpu slowing shit down). Currently leaning towards a GTX1050 (budget about $120), any got any recommendations?

>>60254821

No problem, check some youtube videos and benchmarks, it's a great CPU with excellent bang for buck. And yeah as you pointed out the 1600 comes with a cooler but the 1600X doesn't.

Just incase you do decide to overclock, which is a pretty simple process these days, Paul's Hardware on youtube has done a great guide specifically for overclocking the Ryzen 5

>>60254821
Huh, you're right. Maybe the 1600X doesn't include a cooler.

>>60254788
Generally, it's high end for high end. This is a very rough way to find out what works for what, but your CPU should cost about 3/5 of the GPU. A GTX 1080 costs about $500. 3/5 of that price (60%) is $300. The 7700k which is the best fit for it is about $330.

The better way is to just look at Logical Increments as they have an up-to-date price tier build.

How well does ryzen work on linux?

>>60254900
M.2 is the newer SSD. It's faster than a regular SSD so you might as well get it if your mobo can utilize it.

>>60254841
It doesn't. The X series don't include a cooler since AMD assumes that you'll buy a 3rd party cooler for OC. (also because they don't want to use their Wraite Spire Max to compete with them)

>>60254900
M.2 NVMe comes at a premium price but for an OS drive doesn't really provide any benefits. You can get SATA M.2 drives like the M.2 850 EVO but for all intents and purposes they're the same as a 2.5" SSD.

Hey everyone, new to building.

I want to have a build that handles stable 60 fps at 1080p. Not ready to approach 2k/4k levels of resolution, yet. Right now through some Google searches and YouTube videos I gotten it down to two combinations.

1600 w/ RX 580
1500x w/ RX 480

The latter is more immediate and budget as I understand it while the first is sort of future proofing in a way with all the extra cores. From my target use, at what price discrepancy is it worth to go for the more expensive option?

Secondly, when looking at video cards there's so many different kinds of the same model, some brands even having 2 variations. What's the deal? In short, what are the best brands to go with for the RX 480 and 580?

>>60254919
Ah. I've been planning my own build with a 1600, I didn't realize they didn't all include coolers.

>>60254848
>Generally, it's high end for high end. This is a very rough way to find out what works for what, but your CPU should cost about 3/5 of the GPU. A GTX 1080 costs about $500. 3/5 of that price (60%) is $300. The 7700k which is the best fit for it is about $330.

That seems.. I dunno.. counter intuitive?... I mean I'd honestly think it could be figured out based off clock speed.. or some other metric rather than figuring it out based around price.

I mean I get logical increments and all but I kinda want to know the how/why they figured out the pairings so I can figure it out myself by looking at the data on the various components.

The first build I posted was a bottlenecking disaster according to the anon that responded and I couldn't figure it out myself as to why, and I was hoping that someone could point me at something I was missing.

>>60254931
RX 580 is overclocked RX 480. You'd be crazy to pass up two extra cores for $30.

>>60254931
The 580 costs the same as the 480 and is about 10% faster. They fixed annoying coil whine from the 480. Also, you can choose to look for a stock model if you want to save money and OC it yourself, or pay a premium for an OC'd model. The 1600 will save you in the long run since you won't have to upgrade as soon.

>>60254439
>>60254500
https://youtu.be/gUNAvkY6Ops?t=550

>>60254682
pretty good, what case?

Isn't the only valid stat about a CPU the Frequency (aside from threads and cores, of course)

>>60254978
The problem with trying to figure it based off clock speed is that clock speeds aren't comparable for different CPUs. A 6950x at 1.0GHz is much faster than a dual core CPU at 3.5GHz, for example. More cores and hyper threading change everything.

anyone have any speaker recommendations? i just need a standard pair of two to enjoy in my gamez

that or a gaming headset

Alright I'm clueless about this, anything blatantly wrong with this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQvDyf
Will be used for SC2 and some other games, not sure exactly - 60Hz 1080p, not super high quality. I'll be recording some gameplay with OBS or something.
Stock fans okay? Also it says I might need an adapter for the CPU cooler but I couldn't find anything else about that.

>>60254989
>>60254995
Oh, okay. 1600 it is. It's $40 more where I live.
I'm not sure if I want to dive into overclocking for my first time I'll pass on the OC model for the 580 and save some dollars. Stock everything will be fine?

Is a 1700 considered a highend CPU or is the 7700k only considered high end?

>>60255077
Overclocking a GPU is easier than a CPU desu. Just open GPU-Z and make sure your unit's ASIC isn't shit. Then google your GPU + stable OC and see what settings people use and copy it.

>>60255029
so the short answer is, there's no easy way to parse it out based off the specs of a given cpu/gpu etc, unlike the mobo/ram comparison where it's relatively simple to figure out if it can or can't?

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>>60255003

Their testing of watch dogs 2 (which got them their criticism) was a 30 second run down an alley and back. Gamegpu tended to test 30 seconds through busy city streets whichs highlioghts cpu differences better. That said while I have a distrust issues with [H]ardocp nearly all of their testing is 5 minutes long which is fantastic for avoid boosting issues (i.e cpus/gpus boosting to high clocks because they have not warmed up yet) which is sadly side-stepped in many other reviews.

Pic 100% unrelated.

>>60255113
It's just experience, unfortunately. You need to know the tiers and what you're using it for, along with the monitor resolution/hz to choose the CPU + GPU pairing.

Like, for example, the R5/R6/R7 are comparable to Intel's i5, which is best used for 1080p/144hz or 1440p/60hz gaming with the GTX1060/1070 or RX570/580 depending on budget.

The R8 1800x is just under the i7 7700k which would use a GTX1080/Ti for 1440p/144hz or 4K gaming.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-STRIX-7-1-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00VMY069S

is this meme headset worth it

>>60255185
Of course not. At that price, get a real decent headphone + a nice microphone.

Is a 1700 considered a highend CPU or is the 7700k only considered high end?

>>60255185
oh god no.
Try Kingston hyper X. Picked up mine for $70AUD.

>>60255189
any recommendations?

i have a pair of mh50x or w/e they're called but i leave them at work

i can haul them back and forth

>>60255185
One thing Asus can't do right is headphones.

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>>60255207
thx

>>60255185
>>60255207
>gaymen headsets
fuck no, ask /hpg/ for advice

>>60255224
you fucked up

>>60255209
I use these http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/7977219adbffc308/index.html cause they're pretty light and don't hurt hurt even when using them all day long.

For microphones, can't go wrong with a Blue Yeti/Snowball. Pretty sure you can get solid advice from the audiophile tards

>>60255252
They don't have much better with a on board mic.

>>60255204
Ryzen is garbage.

>>60255267
>projecting

whats the best 500gb ssd for gaming?

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>>60255267

Sure is.

>>60255331
850 EVO

>>60253409
>>60253448
PCSX2 only runs on 2 threads so an i5 would provide no benefit. A highly clocked 7350k would be the safest bet to avoid any slowdowns but realistically a G4560 will be able to play 90% of PS2 games without even a hint of slowdown. The other 10% might have slowdowns regardless of the clockspeed, even with a 7350k.

Sub 2K build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWqrCy

>>60255331
Pretty much any. Most brands are up to speed now. Any faster they're limited by actually unpacking the data. Not the bit rate from the drive.

Whilmst the rx 580 go down in price once vega is released or should I build now?

>>60255346
dont ryzen at 2k
dont get founders edition 1080 ti

i recommend getting the msi or asus 1080 ti (non FE)

>>60255346
Good luck with your temps with that shitty cooler. Get an AIO.

>>60255339
thanks

>>60255346
>$1800+ build
>8GB RAM

>>60255332
won't make chrome or my computer games run faster

>>60255346
8gb of RAM my dude. Min requirement is 12. Unless you want to close your browser even tho you're trying to follow a walk through. Plus games are due to start needing more sometime soon.

Can someone redpill me on memory? Quad Sing Dual Channel, Single rank dual rank -- what are these memes about? Do I need Quad Channel if I want to run 64GB?

>>60255378
You'd need quad channel for 64GB if your sticks are 16GB each. But you won't need more than 16GB for the next few years.

>>60255331
whats better the M.2-2280 or the 2.5"

>>60255415
For the 850 EVO? You don't have to deal with cables for the M.2 but they're the same thing otherwise.

>>60255368

Nothing will - both your OS and chrome are primarily I/O bound. That is to say get a faster drive scrub.

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>intel

>>60255419
which one survives longer? the m.2 and 2.5" are the same price on amazon

>>60255440
There is no difference. They are the same product with different interfaces.

>>60255440
depends on how hot your system runs or if you have an awful m.2 slot location on your mobo

Received a Dell Precision T3500 running Xeon processor, is it possible to mount a non Dell motherboard to it with new processor and graphics card?

I would like to make use of the case, power supply and the RAM.

>>60255376

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWqrCy

I just put together a machine today but I have a question I hope someone could cover for me.

After putting the mother board in and screwing it to the copper plugs I've noticed the USB ports on the back aren't perfectly aligned with the slots on the panel. Is this normal? The top half of the panel is perfect but the bottom USB and audio outputs are shifted very slightly to the left. They're still usable but I'm curious if this is a problem I should solve before I do my first boot or if it's just one of those things.

I can't see any way to fit the board any tighter on that area since it's almost touching the case already and I obviously don't want it to do that.

>>60255185
>Is it good?
Not for """""""""Audiophiles""""""""""
>is it cool as fuck
Yes it is cool as fuck
>Would you spend $200 on it
I wouldn't. Wait for a sale or shop around.

>>60255567
If you're sure it's in, it's normal. No problem. Usually due to the mounting plate being miss aligned by a millimeter or two. only adding washers behind the board will bring the alignment back.
>>60255543
Nothing changed.

>>60255567
mine is like that, it's not a problem

>>60255494
Looks like a proprietary (non-ATX) shaped motherboard, so I'm guessing the standoffs to mount a new motherboard into the case are also non-ATX.

I don't know about that specific model but I know in the past Dell has used proprietary power connectors on their PSUs to power the system, so no idea if that PSU would have standard ATX 24 pin power. The RAM, CPU, and hard drives are about the only sure bets to be "transferable" out of any older Big Box PC. Word on the street is that most recent stuff uses a lot more regular OEM components, but seeing as how yours is a few years old I wouldn't bet on it.

>>60255543
>8GiB RAM

>>60255599

I messed up, sorry.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LZXBP

>>60255599
>>60255601
Thank you for the swift replies. You've put my mind at ease. It's my first built and I haven't been able to do a test boot yet due to my RAM not arriving. Was getting me on edge.

>>60255617
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LZXBP
You probably don't want an ATX full tower case either.

Look at the Fractal Design Refine R5

>>60255617
Also if you're planning to do 1440p 144hz gaming, you should go Intel.

>>60255617
Consider anything not nocturna. They shill way to much to give them any cash. Put what you save on to a larger HDD. You also forgot the SSD. Consider cheaper brands. But they're pretty close in price now days.

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just built my first pc
dont be mean

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>>60255616
>GiB

>>60255652
when will ryzen be in more detail on speccy

>>60255665

never because speccy only updates when Intel allows them to do so - much like passmark.

If you're playing vidya, doing some youtube video editing and a bit of streaming is it worth going to 16gig of RAM over 8?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckxxm8

What do you guys think of my all-white build?

>>60255652
Pop in a SSD and you're fine.

>>60255785
Will you paint the PSU?

>>60255816
Most likely, yes. Though IIRC the NZXT S340 Elite should have a shroud.

>>60255642
Why, so he can experience stutterlake?

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>>60255385
(you)

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Is there any recent benchmarks for Ryzens with good RAM speeds for multiple vidya?

Trying to build something that's good at high refresh rates instead of 60 and I don't want to invest into 4c4t Intel unless I absolutely have to.

What motherboard, memory (ddr4-3200 cl16), power supply, and case should I get with this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xbBzxY

>>60255617
>>60255630
Unless he doesn't care what the internet thinks is trendy or not and wants the extra room.

That's a $200 case at half price, it's actually a good find. Still, do consider others, you don't need to spend $100 to get a nice thicc case that isn't cheap shite.

>>60255755
>video editing
yes, that's *exactly* the sort of thing where you'll get use out of 16.

>>60255567
Double check that the IO shield is seated properly.

>>60255252
For many applications, headsets simply work better. Fuck HPG and their clip/desk mics

>>60255642
>buy intel
AHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>60255617
looks good but i would consider getting a 1700 or 1700x (since its pretty much at the 1700 launch price now) and overclock instead of getting a 1800x

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>>60255887
just get 3200 mhz 16gb, good enough for just about anything

what's the price-performance equivalent of a 750 Ti in 2017?

>>60255899
>Fuck HPG and their clip/desk mics
>willfully cucking yourself

>>60255898
Taichi if you want a memeboard, any ram from this fucking list http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=152523


And fuck do I know about power supplies. Get seasonic and youll be fine.

>>60255898
Why does Intel name its CPUs after retirement homes?

Will a Ryzen 1600 max out 1080p games? Is the overclock worth it?

>>60255926
shit, the 560 is better in every way

>>60255940
because the only people that buy them are senile out of touch cucks

>>60255936
>I don't use microphones therefore anyone who wants one is a cuck!

I have a set of monitors if I want to hear something in high quality. 99% of the time I don't give a shit... you don't either, you just pretend so you can feel like you're part of a club and look down on others

>>60255921
I mean yeah, that's what I was planning.

I was mostly concerned with whether I absolutely need a Ryzen 7 or if a 5 can handle high enough frames.

What does it mean when I turn on my PC and it freezes at the Asus boot screen? I can't enter BIOS or select a boot drive.

I tried removing all USB devices and hard drives but it still happens. CPU overheating? I'm using the stock heatsink but that shouldn't matter. I'm not OCing.

>>60256000
Motherboard is possibly bricked. Unplug it from the wall for about 10 minutes and take out the battery. Plug it back in. If you still can't even get into BIOS, the motherboard is kill.

>>60256000
Sanity check- do you have an ASUS monitor? If so, make sure it's on the right input and all that, and make sure the monitor is turning on right.

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I need cheap windows bois. Kingguin the only way?

What are some good motherboards for the 1700? It seems like one motherboard or the other got some issue.

>>60255899
Is 4 4 gig sticks the same as 2 8 gig? I want to get this machine up and running and can get 2 4 gigs today and then get 2 4 gigs later or have to wait a week to get the 16 gigs.

>>60256088
>paying for windows

>>60255948
Thanks for giving me a head start. Yeah, that looks like what I want, and it isn't out yet. Dammit.

is c16 ram gonna be better than c14 ram after amd update?

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>>60256028

Tried that, didn't work.

Also tried resetting my heatsink with new thermal paste and ended up snapping the lock on one corner.

Christ I wish I could have a build that doesn't fuck up at some point.

>>60256125
???

>>60256028
Different anon, Can I check if my mobo works if I do this without any CPU in the socket?

>>60256135
RIP. Honestly though it wasn't a CPU overheating issue. Could have told you that before taking apart all of that shit for no reason. Takes a while for a CPU to overheat and auto-shutdown assuming you're cold booting.

>>60256153
Depends on the motherboard. Some have lights and speakers that can either flash or make noise to give you diagnostic codes for errors if something has gone wrong with the board. No harm in trying but without knowing the motherboard it's hard to say what will happen.

>>60256088
pirate windows 7

>>60255035
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B016NN88DS/
>used to be branded Fatal1ty, the original gaymanset

for speakers, any cheap ones that have a wall plug(amplified), ones that are just USB powered suck a billion dicks.

>>60256114
yeah, it's fine

>>60255630
>>60255651
>>60255899
>>60255906

I changed the CPU cooler and the case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKWJXH

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>>60256126
>>60256185
Not that guy but I'm on a Ryzen so I'm semi-forced to do W10.

I know you can just use it without activating it but is there a cheap place for keys in case they crack down on it?

>>60256236
Can't keeping this PC and SSD on 7 so I can have a backup or give it away as a gift for family.

>>60256303
Unfortunately don't have that either.

Not going to lie here, just a place where I can buy W10 at an actual decent price would be fine.

You know, like 40-60 bucks. Though if pricing like that doesn't exist I'm not opposed to more dubious methods.

>>60256303
Mind pointing me where I can get it for free? I've only found it for 10 bucks through school

>>60256339
if you don't mind leddit, microsoftsoftwareswap

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Will a Ryzen 1600 max out 1080p games at 60fps??

>>60256303
Dope, my wife graduated years ago though.

>>60256376
for some reason this website was only showing me 10 dollars the past couple of days but now it's free?
either way 10x better than paying for home

>>60256434
what you can also do is just go to the home page and put in your college info instead of following the above link, and then making sure you're in the students tab

>>60256236
Umm arn't windows locked down to hardware on install? I imagine it would work if the problem was between chips on the same socket. But mobo deems a bit far fetched.

>>60256294
Alternatively you can do the legit install and just crack windows 10 with KMSpico from the mydigitallife forum.

>>60256456
>Umm arn't windows locked down to hardware on install?
If you go out and buy a pre-built pc/laptop yes. If you buy your own key, it's not locked to any specific hardware. However, if you upgrade your 7 or 8 license to 10, it becomes locked to that mobo regardless if you bought the key or it was on a prebuilt.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCpQnn

what case, powersupply, and motherboard should i get with this build?

>>60256403
They don't actually check. Just having a working @*.edu address is good enough for nearly every offer "for students/faculty"

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I'm in Australia, are these good deals?

>>60256528
they hardly ever prune email addresses too

>>60255981
ryzen 5 is good enough

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>>60256558
Yeah. I payed $450AUD for a 1060 a couple months ago, and $170AUD for a 24" 1080 Jade monitor. K24HL 7 months ago.
Only got the 1060 because of my remote location, and ebay fucked me over on my original card.

>>60256210
still needs work

here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jj4PD8

>>60256558
Oh wait. That's a 460... Umm. Yeah, I have no idea if that's a good price. The monitor is tho.

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So, can the Ryzen 1600 run games maxed out at 1080p full 60 frames per second?

>>60256527
Put it in a a cosco sized cheerio's box. Confuse the fuck out of everyone and call it your cereal box special.

Seasonic 520 fully modular

I know fuckall about mobos so..I'm just throwing shit at the wall ASRock Z270 KILLER SLI/AC.

>>60256631
>image
B8 incoming.

>>60255185
>https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-STRIX-7-1-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00VMY069S
Surround sound is a meme for headsets it doesnt do anything

>>60255267
>He bought a 7700k the day before Ryzen released

any difference between the Sapphire Nitro and Pulse cards?

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I'm in New Zealand and trying to figure out a build while dealing with shitty prices/shipping. I do some gaming but also wanna be able to do some GIS/numerical computing work with a decent rig.

What do you think, /pcbg/?

>>60256583
For 120?

>>60256602
>>60256616
Thanks. My current rig is still using an old 560 Ti so I'd most like to upgrade that for cheap if possible. I found a 1050 Ti for $212, how does that sound?

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>>60256528
Thanks for the heads up. This edition is free and it looks better than home.

>>60256774
Nah, much better off with the 460. still look around for a 470-80 if ya can. I'd expect nVidia to tank the 1050 at some point, where as AMD just improves performance over time.
Bear in mind the 1050 is no better than a GTX9XX card, It's only called a 10XX because of the chipset.

>>60256793
iirc it doesn't come with cortana either

>>60256807
Hm, the 470 and 480 are way more expensive so I guess I'll just grab the 460. Thanks a lot.

>>60256631
yes

>>60256736
hey mate how you going? I suggest getting the 1600x and getting a cpu+mobo deal at pb tech. Some on the deals include a CPU cooler

>>60256401
>1080p
>60fps
No issues

>>60256829
Sadly it does, but can be disabled.

>>60255948
>>60256132
So... why can I NOT buy a 560 right now? 550, 570, and 580 are all out. The sites I looked at with 5 minutes of google all think it's out. So where the fuk is it

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>>60256955
gday. Wasn't aware of deals at pb tech, that should be a big help, thankya.

Will probably go with the 1600x.

I'm getting r5 1600x and an rx 580. Monitor will be viewsonic xg2401. R8 my iq.

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>>60257076
I'll also say a big Yeah Nah on buying online. You are much better off buying instore as you can ask for discounts, and they will gladly give them.

Most recent memory is when my psu broke and I went to buy one at pb tech. The one I was looking at was gonna cost 100 bucks, so i asked for a discount and the guy there gave me 10% off. A similar thing happened when I bought my cpu+mobo+ram a few years back m8.

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>>60257076
>>60257145
Forgot this m8.

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[spoiler]Think I'll get a 1080 when they send a replacement?[/spoiler]

>>60257308
Doubt. It's been done before. But only in the wake of putting out those dodgy FTW's.

>>60257145
Noice. Thanks anon

>>60256751
yes, thats a steal

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>>60257308
>he doesn't know spoilers don't work on /g/

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>>60257397
>FONTEMP964

https://youtu.be/ZGrxhf_xZWI?t=25m51s
according to buildzoid msi gayming pro carbon and msi krait gaming have the best VRMs of all b350 boards

My 1600X is so comfy.

Have twitch loaded side by side on the two. 720p@60fps stream.
On the 2500k it's using 20-50% cpu. I can't play a game at the same time. If I try to load a cities skylanes game it takes like 3+ minutes and the game drops to 1-8fps while loading.
On the 1600X, the twitch stream and chromium uses about 4-9% cpu, never more than 65% of one of the 12 threads plus a little bit of 2 others. Cities Skylines map loads in about 15-20 seconds, and never dips below 15fps while loading (doesn't hit 100% on a thread, frame dips are just something that happens during map loading anyway), and without dropping frames on the twitch stream.
The i5-2500k is off a WD black, but it's so slow it's not like it'd even keep up with the SSD.

I love how I just don't have to give a shit about anything anymore. It's just so overpowered. I had to close browsers to play on my 2500k, and still would get heavy stutters then sometimes.
I wish I had the proper tools and time for proper tests.

>>60257591
But they aren't mATX and their BIOS sucks.
ASRock seems to be best for Linux, too.

>>60253338
Yes. G4560. Though it'll falter if you have to do software rendering for some pcsx2 games, and it won't handle pcsx3.
1600 and 1700 are really good for pcsx3, but much more expensive.
For most emulators, like Dolphin and SNES, you can run them just off the iGPU of the G4560 with no discrete GPU.

>>60257393
120hz...

I dont like how much noise the g4560 cpu fan makes. What is a good replacement? where do i find out how much noise it makes?

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Are there any good 1440p/144hz monitors with practically no bezels?

I'm tired of having big chunks of shit around my screen, and seeing as how curved screens on both monitors and phones are possible, you'd think a screen with pretty much no bezel would exist.
Specifically I would like a 27-inch monitor.


Am I looking for something that doesn't exist yet?

>>60256132
>>60257039
Because the RX560 are different dies. Different wafers. They can't make them all simutaniously.
RX570 are just cut down RX580 dies. And AMD chose to run RX550s first and sell them for too much..

There is the 1050Ti, but the RX560 looks like it'll be significantly cheaper and faster.
If you see a 1050Ti on sale for around $100, go for it.

>>60258249
That's a sexy monitor.
The MG279Q is a nice monitor, but has significant bezel compared to that.

There's a lot of really nice monitors coming out this year, but they're $1k+.

>>60258081
Read reviews. Tweaktown does pretty good ones. And silentpcreview but they don't review enough stuff.
CFM-vs-noise.
I'd try to keep to under $25 though. Anything more is a waste.

What software do you use to create fan profiles on ryzen (not in the bios)? I always used speedfan but the only sensors it finds are the sdd and the gpu.

>>60258280
Yeah, I've been eyeing the MG279Q since it isn't too expensive while still having nice specs, but I've always wanted a monitor with no bezels, but it doesn't seem like there are that many on the market, and if there are, they are usually 4k 60hz, or plain 1080p.

>>60258464
>>60258249
what's the point if you're only using one screen? Really nitpicky shit, not worth spending a single extra dollar on

Nixeus 27" 1440p 144hz IPS is on Massdrop again.

400$ is a great price. The next one from asus costs 150$ more.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/nixeus-27-ips-144hz-freesync-gaming-monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LfVXH
Should I change anything? What is a good mATX/ATX case with 5.25" bays for around a same price as Define S?

>>60257911
>On the 2500k it's using 20-50% cpu. I can't play a game at the same time. If I try to load a cities skylanes
Just did a little test. Had a 1080 60fps, a 4k 60fps and a raw stream of 1080ish. 90% on my 8350.

>>60258714
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LfVXH
Looks pretty ideal.
Carbide 88r and Rosewill SRM-01 are nice.
Get the Red Devil RX570 instead of it'll fit in the case you get. The Gigabyte cards are loud and hot compared to the others.

I'd also spend 50% more to get double the SSD storage.

I think my motherboard is bricked. Previously worked til last night (normal power off at end of session). Can someone help me talk through my diagnostic, please?

> Ryzen 7 1700
> ASRock AB350 ATX Pro4
> GPU is GTX560 Ti
> Case fans and CPU cooler gets power and all spin
> USB peripherals don't get LEDs or power
> GPU fans spin but no display output
> Clearing CMOS unsuccessful with jumper
> Clearing CMOS unsuccessful removing CMOS battery
> Tried different peripherals and display devices
> With ethernet cable from computer plugged into local network it is discoverable but only as a port being used, and not a device (IP), which is why I'm ruling out GPU

Anything else I can try?

>>60258809
So it was displaying before?
Can you try another GPU?

Did you try turning it on and just waiting a minute? Do the fans turn off and on while you do that?

>>60258757
Carbide 88r looks nice indeed.
>Get the Red Devil RX570 instead of it'll fit in the case you get. The Gigabyte cards are loud and hot compared to the others.
Red Devil is not available in my country. Are Sapphire/MSI cards better than Gigabyte?

>>60258842
MSI Gaming X is okay. The lower end ones are not.
Sapphire is solid, no matter what model you get.

>>60258841
It was working fine 24 hours ago. I don't have access to a PCIe GPU to plug in unfortunately.

>>60258514
I'm not sure what you mean by that friend

What's the point in having a nice computer?
What's the point in buying a nice car?

It looks nice, not like it needs to serve some function.

>>60258869
Try the other x16 slot?
Some boards only do video on the primary one, though.
Try another video port?

>>60258809
Think your monitor cable might be broken?

Also do me a favour, turn on your monitor, unplug it from the wall without turning it off, wait a minute, plug it back in. Some monitors are shit (including mine) and have this issue related to the capacitor or something along those lines.

Since all your parts seem to be getting power it might just be that your monitor isn't showing that it actually works.

>>60258925
Yeah no love with the other slot. Tried again to be sure.

>>60258953
Other device already is use with monitor and swapping cables sees no change.

No power to peripherals.

>>60259033
Your 6/8 pin connectors are plugged into the GPU correctly, right?

>>60259043
Yeah both 6pins are.

Ah, i feel like an idiot... i was intending on going up to a microATX system for a quieter PC and then i saw dan-case was going to have a V2 kickstarter at the end of the month and suddenly i got hyped to do a new ITX build.

Theres no hope for me, small form factor is my filthy filthy fetish.

>>60258921
it looks slightly different, you only think "better" because you've been programmed to believe that by advertising.

you're thinking about wasting hundreds of dollars on meaningless fucking TRIM

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>>60259192
>Programmed to believe that by advertising

Okay champ.
Okay.

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Hey guys, short question:
If people talk about push and pull fans, is that strictly restricted to cpu coolers or do these mechanics also apply to the case ?
I.e. using a non favorable pull fan as front case fan, would it still matter ?

>>60259936

Push/pull only applies to headstinks/radiators as by definition they are pushing/pulling through a huge chunk of metal. Any fan use in a case is inherently push.

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hi, R5 1600 here.

Best air cooler for the AM4 socket?

>>60260208
also, best as in quiet and does a good job at cooling

>>60260237
>quiet
Le Grand Macho with no fan.

suggest me a good dual xeon

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>>60260091
Thanks, anon.

Is parts picker ever wrong on compatibility? I have an Asus prime B350-plus mother board here and my Corsair vengeance LPX DDR 4 ram sticks don't want to fit in it. I've tried both ways round and they don't line up with the mark perfectly.

>>60260381

I think you might be retarded. RAM of any given type follows a standard that motherboard manufacturers also comply to.

>>60260401
that was my thoughts. But I can't get it to slot in. I have it 05% of the way there and if I put any more pressuure on it just bends the motherboard father than clips in.

>>60260381
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/69il59/ddr4_ram_wont_fit_ddr4_board/

Is the stock cooler for the 1600 good enough or should I get another one?

Speaking of ram do brands matter considering both are 2660 8gb
I am looking at Kingston and goodram and the goodram is cheaper

1500X is on sale for $170 from Fry's. Free shipping and requires promo code you get if you sign up to their mailer thing on the top-right of their site.

>>60260702
If you want to OC it's decent but wiser to get another one.

>>60255921
Is this bench mark wrong? Are you telling me the Ryzen 1700 outperforms the 7700k?

>>60260794
in that one specific game with that one specific setup

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dsMxY

Is this build good as in value? Gonna play low end games that are more CPU intensive (Hearts of Iron 4 etc). This is about 800€ where I'm buying it (Germany). Will hook it up to a 1080p 75hz monitor. Is this going to be overkill? Can I improve something?

Also, how far will I be able to OC that 1600 with the stock cooler.

>>60260872
>Is this going to be overkill?
Yes

>>60260872
>Also, how far will I be able to OC that 1600 with the stock cooler.
3.7GHz most likely. I do that on my r7 1700 (which heats more because more cores), though it's not sustainable under prolonged 100% load.

>>60260772
I don't really know much about coolers. How can you tell how decent a cooler is?

How bad of an idea is to combine R5 1600 with 1060 6Gb? I'm able to get Asus Turbo 1060 6Gb for fairly cheap + it draws less power than RX570/580.

would a 1070 and ryzen 1700 be able to do 1440p 144hz?

hey guys so i got my pc built and installed the operating system. the only thing is that the led case fan(s) aren't turning on.

>>60260982

RTFM

>>60260994
i did senpai. i wouldnt be coming here if i didnt.

>>60260872
Yes. You can play most AAA games maxed at 1080p 60fps at least with that.
You'd be fine with a 1500X and the RX560 when that comes.

Hearts of Iron is more single threaded and it'll be easier to clock a 1500X to 4GHz for that. The 1600 will need a better cooler for that.

>>60260903
It's pretty damn bad for DX12/Vulkan/Gameworks.

>>60260966
In Overwatch, yeah.

>>60261008
Just Overwatch? is the CPU really that bad for 1440p 144hz??

>>60260966
120hz
not 144
Unless you oc it very high and get a very good memory oc

>>60260966
Yes, easily. The biggest dependent is the video card. I would probably go for a 1080 because the 1070 might have a hard time hitting 144 on AAA games.

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>>60260255
that is likely to snap my shit, son.

>>60260982
Fans are a gimmick you don't need them

>>60260966
The cpu performance is identical between resolution changes (barring forced field of view changes)---so congrats, you already know how ryzen performs at 1440p. It's the same as 1080p and 480p and every other resolution.

>>60261008
Is the RX 560 in the 1050 ti range? I guess that'll work; when's it coming out?

>>60261014
>Just Overwatch? is the CPU really that bad for 1440p 144hz??
... no the GPU is.
The 1070 barely does 144fps minimum in Overwatch maxed.
The CPU will do around 300fps minimum in that game.

>>60261104
It should be $100-$125. So yeah slightly cheaper than 1050Ti but it should be about 25% faster (but require a 6pin)

>>60261104
Dunno when it comes out. Should be before May 19th I'd think.

>>60260897
by watching in depth reviews of it or having it
in my case, i have it

Which would you guys prefer?
1080 GTX Black or Founders Edition?

>>60261154
>>60261131
Sounds great, thanks. Also, when you were talking about a 4Ghz OC on the 1500X, is that actually possible with the stock cooler?

>>60261247
Yes. The 1600 and 1500X have the same exact stock cooler. Since the 4 core puts out a bit less heat, it can usually get like 3.9-4.05 on the 1500X compared to 3.7-3.85 on the 1600.

1600 will need a better cooler to hit 4+.

>>60261290
>1600 will need a better cooler to hit 4+.
1600 can't sustain 4GHz on 100% load with stock cooler. Not even 3.9.

>>60261218
Whichever is the cheapest.
Whatever the difference is, it's not worth the price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RV3sf8
What do you guys think?

Between streaming, gaming, video editing.

so there is a red debug led light on my mobo. the manual says that corresponds to the gpu. the thing is the gpu is working fine and i can run skyrim and doom just fine

>>60261413
>so there is a red debug led light on my mobo. the manual says that corresponds to the gpu.
Picture of said led? Model of motherboard?

>>60261336
Thanks for repeating what I said.

>>60261404
Looks good. Why the x370 motherboard though?

>>60261438
you can always count on me lad

>>60261404
I wouldn't pay so much for a 1080, but it looks fine otherwise.

>>60261453
I was told if I wanted to OC the Ryzen past 3.8ghz I needed an X370. Was that false?

>>60261459
I coudn't really find any cheaper 1080s out there

>>60261432
woops i just figured it out. turns out the light stays on if there is no integrated graphics on the cpu (ryzen),and you need to use have a gpu. it wont turn off though

>>60261478
>I was told if I wanted to OC the Ryzen past 3.8ghz I needed an X370. Was that false?
x370 motherboards tend to have better VRMs, but b350 VRMs are good even if you want to go to 4GHz.
If it's reaching high clock you want, downgrading the mobo to a b350 (with good vrms) and then upgrading the cooler to a very big one with 2 140mm fans on it would make more sense.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/94Dmjc
Does this look alright?
Left out the psu/storage. Will try to use an old drive and an even older 750w for now/temporary. Assuming it will fit.

Just trying to play games at 1080, decent frames. Replace the dated rig I built somewhere 8 years ago.

Or should I go atx and leave room for VR if I want to hop on that train later?

Guys, what the fuck is wrong with my system? I just went through 5 power supplies within a 3 month period.

It's fucking bizarre. I plug in my power supply, everything works smooth for the first week. After that, my computer starts to auto reboot on its own I would say once a day, then slowly it will do it multiple times a day, before it ends up doing it every few minutes.

I will replace the power supply with a new one and things are smooth again for the following week, repeating the same exact symptoms. I did this with 5 different PSU's. They are all corsair 1000W PSU's. I do not overclock my system.

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>>60261690
>Or should I go atx
There's no particular need to

>Just trying to play games at 1080, decent frames
Rx 580 is generally more picked than the GTX 1060 because it tends to be cheaper and performs slightly better on average (2%)
Here is a chart of the RX 580 performance in games, compared to the GTX 1060

Should I be able to fit all my components in this case? partpicker does not list the case I'm planning on buying. From what I've seen the Corsair Carbide 400C seems to be aimed at liquid cooling, however I want to use a Noctua NH-U14S instead. I used a case that seems to be similar in dimensions in partpicker, however I don't know if the compatibility checker also checks dimensions.

Build:https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4nQLxY
Case: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-carbide-400c-midi-tower-gaming-case-black-window-cc-9011081-ww-ca-216-cs.html

This build is basically saving me from the toaster life I've always lived. I've gone with a 60htz monitor because I mainly play fighting games, so 120 or 144 won't make any difference, fighting games only play at 60. In particular I want something that will run Tekken 7 better than the console version. I also like my singleplayer games but I'm not into big open world RPGs like Witcher or big team games like Battlefield, so I won't be needing something like a 1080. I also don't need a good mouse and keyboard since I mainly use controllers or joysticks. Lastly AMD is not an option for me as I've seen many games I like be incompatible with AMD GPUs due to their PC versions being an afterthought.

Did I fuck up getting a 7700k instead of a ryzen? The threads are scaring me

>>60261768
Yes. You overpaid for something that gives you little performance over gives that excel at single processing capabilities over multiprocessing capabilities.

The 7700k is going to be phased out by end of year. Ryzen is going to only improve with newer updates

>>60261763
>gtx 1070
>60hz
what
>Lastly AMD is not an option for me as I've seen many games I like be incompatible with AMD GPUs due to their PC versions being an afterthought.
What does that even mean? Consoles use AMD GPUs.

>>60261802
Welp... I guess I can just buy a new processor next year :/

Kind of upset

>>60261811
There are some games I've played where Nvidia cards perform perfectly well, however AMD users experience errors or really bad performance. They are mainly Japanese fighting game ports. I don't know the specifics but I know that it is a problem for AMD users sometimes.

What's wrong with 1070 and 60htz? I need that GPU power to run the stuff I want.

i just built my first pc right now and i was wondering what are the essential apps

>>60261968
AIM, Skype, Origin, Steam, Ventrilo

>>60261968
arch linux

>>60261949
It's very overpowered for 60hz. You should be getting Gsync with that. Or just getting a 1060.

>>60261968
KDE Neon.

>>60261968
gentoo

>>60261821
It's still a good CPU anon.
Just very bad value, but still good.

>>60262171
>>60262171
>>60262171

how legitimate are those programs that claim to increase your cores?

I know physical cores can't change but what about virtual cores? can I actually get more than 2? there's a program out there I was thinking of downloading to do this but idk