/wt/ Watch Thread

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>>60210876
First for the glory of Daini Seikosha.

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What strap should I get for my Copernic?
I bought it a few years ago and it's been in a draw ever since and I want to start wearing it

>>60210898
>Bulova

No kidding.

The guy who designed their moon watch must have wrists like Popeye.

55mm lug to lug, jesus christ. And they're so fucking straight too.

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>>60210826
so... you accept the fact that you are wearing/buying a watch because it's pretty, like say... a piece of jewelry?

what are you, a woman/tranny?

also, craftsmanship argument is not really valid because the level of technology that goes into quartz watches requires a much higher level of expertise and manpower and technology.

There is a reason you don't find workshops or one man teams making a quartz clock from scratch.

Get photon power if you must have a watch, like pic related..

>>60211144
* wearing/buying a memenical watch

>>60211144
It's not just because it's pretty. You can buy quartz watches that look just as pretty on the outside, you know.

>the level of technology that goes into quartz watches requires a much higher level of expertise and manpower and technology.
I have plenty of electronics to marvel at in my life already.

I want something different once in a while.

>>60210952
Black perlon.

>>60211172
Don't feed the trolls.

>>60211543
Shut him up, didn't I?

>>60211543
Kill yourself, you dumb fucking shit stain.

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report and move on, you dumb fuck autists

>>60211621
Go drink some bleach, shit for brains.

Watches are cool

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>>60211172
How the fuck do you even appreciate a memenical if you have to wind it up and set the time if you leave it unattended for a few days. And even to appreciate the inner workings you need a open heart watch or one with a glass back.

Just accept the fact you are a woman at heart and just want shiny things.

>>60211621
Hah, you wish. Go check the archives for ecoshill.
Every once in a while I like to enrage the jewelry wearing trannies and their leader no balls.

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>>60211665

>>60211790
Yeah, totally brah.
Should just stick one up your anus just like your dad stuck his pee pee up yours.

>>60211818
>how do you appreciate the mechanics of something if you have to actually manipulate the mechanical functions?
Really?

>And even to appreciate the inner workings you need a open heart watch or one with a glass back.
No you don't.

/wt/, can induction stoves cause magnetization of a movement? The 7S26C in my SNK809 has suddenly started running like 10 minutes slow per day, and aside from the obvious conclusion that the 7S26 is shit, the only thing I could think of that caused this is my parents' new induction stove, which I was using while visiting them on the weekend. I hear they give off pretty strong magnetic fields but so do cell phones.

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R8 my watch

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>>60211880
Yeah, really.... Like totally brah.

But seriously, the only attractive aspect of memenicals is 'much shiny' and 'craftsmanship' whatever that means.

oh, look... the second hand moves so fast but still in a staggered manner that it appears to sweeping my snowfraked dial. MUH SHINY.

>>60211979
So do you only wear smartwatches?

>>60211958
That's not a watch, fag.
It's a computer that pretends to be a watch so that the manufacturer can get the goyim to give them more shekels.

Man, whatever happened to these threads? A year ago they were still decent, sure they had declined from the days when watchmakeranon frequented them, but still decent. Now I feel like it's nothing but shills and trolls. What the fuck happened?

>>60212020
There are better threads now and then. Now isn't one of those times. Just remember to report & ignore.

>>60212008
If all you're after is performance, then logically you should prefer smartwatches like that over analog quartzes.

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>>60212004
What??? Fuck no.
If and when I do wear a watch it is either a g-shock, a precision quartz or a solar-powered-somewhat-accurate quartz that I don't have to babby or set the time everyfucking time I leave it alone for a couple of days.

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>>60212052
Utility, friendo and with some panache --that is a decent casing. I want the most robust, carefree and good looking watch which gives me a good value for money. And that happens to be photon powered watches, like pic related.

>>60211667
also, because it is next to impossible for a man or a small workshop of machining equipment. You need millions of dollars worth of fab to even begin.

>>60212020
A while ago some enormous faggot wandered over here from a fake watch forum and got bootyblasted at /wt/'s opinion of Chinkshit garbage, and so he started perma-trolling these threads. Once some of the other trolls saw him shitting up thread after thread, they started to swarm in the hopes of being able to kill /wt/ with their jealousy and rage.

Just report and ignore the trolls and they will eventually get bored or banned.

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Upcoming seiko prospex. This one comes with the 6r15 movement and a sapphire dial.

For some reason it just looks "right" to me.

>>60212071
So in other words you prefer "muh traditional shiny analog watch format" over the supreme functionality of a smartwatch?

>>60212121
>Utility is a decent casing
Wrong.
The traditional watch format with case, dial, hands, markers, crystal ... is entirely obsolete if all you're after is functionality.

Your G-shock is in line with your beliefs (depending on the type), but both of those Citizens make you a hypocrite.

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>>60212206
pic related is much better. it keeps on running for like 20 years and feeds on photons.

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>>60212206
I like the look of it a lot.
But I don't see why it's twice the price of your average 6R15 SARB.

Pic related is also a new model coming out, they have a 4R movement, so probably 500 bucks or fewer.

>>60212020
It's the same people this whole time, people just get bored of having the same circlejerk about max bill and suwa and muh in house movements over and over and over again, and people's tastes change as they get deeper into a hobby so naturally you will see a shift in consensus over time

>>60212251
Actually I already have quite a few solar powered casios, seikos and citizens.

>>60212269
Do you know what happened to the sensible frog?
The other two threw him off the log.

>>60211921
>I hear they give off pretty strong magnetic fields but so do cell phones.
LOL no, it's probably close to a millionfold difference in total energy

>>60212282
So...why buy an automatic diver? It's not like it is actually useful as a dive watch.

inb4 muh looks, much shiny.

>>60212362
Because it looks nice.

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>>60210876
Reminds me of

>>60212257
Yeah the price is a bit much. I am guessing the sapphire crystal that is thick enough for a diver is the thing that pushes up the price.

On the other hand, the 10 hour difference in power reserve between the 6r15 and 4rxx movements is really noticeable to me, so much so that I have stopped wearing my 4rxx watches.

>>60212498
eh, how new are u? Is it summer already?

>>60212206
>$1200 US DOLLARS
>$1200 US DOLLARS
>$1200 US DOLLARS
>$1200 US DOLLARS
>$1200 US DOLLARS

>>60212350
So then if watch manufacture already tell us to avoid prolonged contact with cell phones, an induction cook top will definitely magnetize them?

>>60211676
>>60212020
>>60212040
>>60212722
>discussing watches
What's the problem?

>>60212722
Post your watch collection, if you dare.

>>60212831
Shitposting and trolling related to watches is still shitposting and trolling.

>>60212894
Just because you disagree does not make it trolling and shitposting.

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>>60212894
how are mechanical watches not shit?
>terrible power reserve. You have to set the time and wind the watch if you keep it alone for a couple of days.

>not shockproof. Can't even ameri-fat-clap due to fear of breaking muh fragile shit spring and balance wheel

inb4 muh craftmanship, muh guillochie, much snowfrake, much sweep movement (it ain't, you are just too slow to notice the dick-dog)

get light, get life fucking memenical shill.

>>60212909
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. There are people in this thread who openly admit to shitposting to actively try to lower the quality of discussion in the thread. Here's one even posting about it here >>60211818
>Hah, you wish. Go check the archives for ecoshill.

This guy has had a lot of his posts deleted and probably banned before given how he'd suddenly stop posting (not that we'd ever see the ban message.)

We're up to our eyes in shitposting here.

>>60213009
dude fag, I am not always this overt. Sometimes the jewelry shilling has to be kept in check and countered with photon powered shilling.

>>60213009
Please, it's trivial to get around a ban. Nineball has admitted to using a trip to attract attention so this other guy is hardly the only one.

>hurr I have to hate the other thing to enjoy this thing

why is this thread full of emotionally stunted losers

unwatched

>ITT: WT experiences their first shills
Meanwhile, the few remaining people at /pol/ are shills that argue with other shills thinking they're actual /pol/ users. Face it, this site is reddit-tier garbage ever since that kike moot sold us out to the alphabets and now that dumb subhuman chink who's shoving malware-ridden ads down our throats while claiming there isn't enough money to fund the site to add insult to injury.

@ 60213169
here is your (noYou)

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>>60213207
>He thinks all those shitko post are not by the same shill. You don't know how the game is played, do you?

>>60213097
I didn't say anything about tripcodes.

>>60211921
10 minutes slow definitely sounds like it's magnetized.

>>60211979
>oh, look... the second hand moves so fast but still in a staggered manner that it appears to sweeping my snowfraked dial. MUH SHINY.
look up how spring drive, the movement used in the snowflake, works. it's actually smooth and not staggered.

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>>60213207
>implying /pol/tards like you aren't the exact newfag cancer shitting up the site with your constant toxic bullshit and SHILLS posting

fuck off from this thread. fuck off from 4chan.

>>60213282
Yeah, like electromagnetic braking is not the same thing as an escapement. Maxwell be praised.

>>60213304
That traffic spike is thanks to kike media talking about
>muh sekret club pol on le 4chan hacker hangout
and so naturally all the reddit scum come over to check it out, and what do you know, they stay and act like they have moral high ground, telling people to leave because they are "racist" or "homophobic," yet this site was always like that.

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Seiko monster ftw.

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>>60213381
no fuck off. this place isn't stormfront. at most we were libertarian.

you tinfoil alt right newfag cancer are killing this site.

>>60213426
>no fuck off. this place isn't stormfront. at most we were libertarian.
We were anonymous
We did it for the lulz

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>>60213426

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>>60213097
I did not. You may have misunderstood the last time I explained it.

Back in September 2010 there was a lot of metathreads. Threads complaining about tripcodes and this and that. Metaposters were filling the front pages with their complaining. I adopted a tripcode because it was a passive and effortless way to piss off the less intelligent posters on /g/.

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>>60213478
>r/thedonald alt right newfag
>calling people reddit

this will never not be amusing

>>60213411
It's amazing how being confrontationally ugly can actually work as long as its done right.

>>60213515
>reddit poster that thinks he's an oldfag

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This perlon plus Omega-style deployment idea is comfy as fuck.

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>>60213556
>he doesn't know he's replying to someone who's been here since 2004

go away you little cringey newfag babby

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Hi, it's the anon looking for the Lord Marvel again. >>60197531

I find a version that I *think* has the linen dial but the Seiko logo, minute and second hands are in gold.

The asking price is indeed higher like you guys mentioned, it's $500. Is it still a good price?

Are Rolex watches as durable and beater-like as people make them out to be?
What are some other watches I can throw on and not worry about that aren't cheap shitters?

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>>60213788
Some other angles.

>>60213789
Omega, Breitling

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>>60213827

>>60213789
g-shock

>>60213828
Any non-diver pieces with these qualities from Omega?
I heard their newer movements' parts are hard to get for independent watchmakers. Reliability and serviceability have to be top notch.
I don't really like the Breitling look in general desu.

>>60213789
Rolexes are pretty tough. And what do you consider to be a cheap shitter? I mean, honestly, a low end seiko diver is pretty tough when it comes to normal use as well.

That being said, if you're ever in a situation where you want a watch that absolutely must be as tough as possible, a g-shock is the choice.

>>60213898
>not cheap shitters

>>60213915
I meant "cheap shitter" in an endearing kind of way.
I love my Seikos and slavshit watches.
I would just like something as reliable but in a higher price category.
Like 1-3k€ used.

>>60213925
there are expensive g-shocks, and many g-schocks that aren't shitters

>>60213949
>Like 1-3k€ used.
Then a non-low-end seiko diver.

>>60213925
Why would you buy an expensive shitter? Just get something nice at that point.

>>60213788
I would go for the $400 non-linen dial one over that example.

>>60213828
>Omega
Their co-axial movements are fragile as fuck senpai.

>>60213949
MM300, or one of the good tunas

>>60213949
Isn't an in-house Pelagos the obvious answer here? Titanium is more scratch prone but much tougher than steel, and Tudor's free sprung movement should have better shock resistance than most regulated balance movements.

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>>60213716
A shot of an Omega-style deployment clasp on a perlon from the guy I got the idea from.

Details here, if anyone is interested: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/perloyant-k-necessity-mother-invention-2684258.html#/topics/2684258?page=1

>>60214181
It's deployant

>>60214181

What are you doing? I wear a perlon so I don't know it's there and the buckle sits on the side of my wrist. With this huge monstrosity on a person it'd just make it incredibly annoying and significantly heavier.

>>60213304
I used to be a desktop user until I got a desk job where they actually monitored my Internet usage (ie at a company with a competent IT department rather than a little half-dozen employee operation). I have no choice but to shitpost from my phone.

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>>60214389
I actually find it considerably more comfortable as the clasp adds a counter balance to the watch-head and makes the perlon much more stable.

>>60214389
>>60214468
Mind you, I generally find Omega-style deployant clasps very comfortable, so your mileage may vary.

>>60213482
So again, you admit to attracting negative attention. Thanks!

>>60214468
are perlons really as stiff as they look?

>>60214539
The EULIT perlons are comfortable. Literally every other knockoff perlon is garbage.

They are a bit stiff, but they aren't scratchy at all and I find them much more comfortable than natos.

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>>60213788
$500 is on the high end of fair, but not completely out of line. Keep in mind you will probably need to pay about $100 to service this thing once it comes in. If it is serviced then $500 is actually not bad. If not, try to knock them down at least $50-$80 or keep looking.

The quality of the pictures you posted is not really good enough to have a detailed look at the watch, but from what I can see it at least isn't overly fucked up. See if you can get photos of the movement, make sure that shit isn't covered in rust or all scratched up from the last hack watchmaker who got his hands on it.

>>60214539
No, they're incredibly flimsy causing that guy's complaints of it not holding the watch in place or whatever. Considering how thin they look too you're retarded to use them on a bulky diver or anything that isn't a slim vintage.

>>60214610
They are flimsy side to side because all the weight is on the watch head, they are a bit stiff in terms of wrapping around your wrist or getting shaped around the springbars on a watch.

>>60213789
Anything with a Valjoux 7750

>>60214635
Initially but absolutely not an issue shortly after.

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>>60214645
>Anything with a Valjoux 7750
>Not a shitter
U wot m8?

>>60211172
What a moronic and meaningless post
>hurr something different

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1. what are your thoughts on fliegers?

2. I have 8" wrists, and I'm 6'3". Would a 39mm (lug-to-lug of 45mm), or a 42mm (lug-to-lug of 51mm) suit me better?

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Got some CW voucher codes in case anyone is planning on buying one

>>60214727
>emulating that sad pathetic man with zero taste outside brand circlejerk

kill yourself m8

>>60215096
you could even go for a 44 to be honest, 8" is a really big wrist.
i'm not a big fan of fliegers because they're big watches and i have a smaller wrist. i prefer smaller watches.

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>>60215105

>>60215118
IWC makes some <38mm fliegers that look incredible

>>60214468

Clasp is bigger than the watch.

>>60215139
>he thinks he can win an argument because he has a shitty mspaint

lol these emotionally stunted retards are hilarious

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99% of the questions asked can be found here.
>pic related

Let's try and keep the dross to a minimum, and post wrist shots + talk about horology.

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>>60213523
Thank you, sir!

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>>60215175
I too enjoy paying $5000 for an ETA 2892-A2.

>>60215099
how many can you use at once?

>>60214645
>not knowing what a Lemania 5100 is

>>60215211
Why would I waste my time arguing with the shitter logic used by jealous poorfags?

>>60215238
you're a big guy

>>60215238
You are wearing that way too close to your hand.

>>60215256
think you can only use one at once

>>60215281
you really are a clueless meme spouting pleb lmao

kill yourself you're too stupid for this world

>>60215238
you must eat well

>>60213779
4ch wasn't around until 2005, please stop stealing valor on an anonymous Chinese genetic modification forum.

>>60215348
t. jealous shitter buying poorfag

>>60215511
t. cucked by swiss jews

>>60215293

Thanks, buddy.

>>60215309

It's on my wristbone.

>>60215400

;)

>>60215482
2003.

we outchea.

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Meranom has the Amphibian SE 960SE Neptune back!

>>60215139
>quartz movement
Now here's a man with good taste

>>60215689
fuck sake anon you should NOT have posted this
my wallet REALLY can't cope with this

>>60215689
what is so special about the neptune?

>>60215783
memes

>>60215783
It's a $50 watch that sells for $150... and that people then re-sell for $300.

>>60215854
so what you are saying is that I should buy 5 and sell them all for $300?

>>60215764
Don't worry senpai... In a year or so Meranom will sell another 100 units batch.

>>60215872
That's what many people do, yes.

>>60215689
one left
I think I'll wait a couple of months

>>60216073
more like a couple years

>>60212225
learn to read nigga, that's not what he said.

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What's the quietest quartz watch and which are the loudest? I know Timex is quite loud.

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Epson smart watches are pretty dope

>>60215094
That's the exact same logic behind having a house that's more than just bare walls and a door.

>>60216208
That's exactly what he said.

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>>60216709
>>60216748
neat

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>>60216709
Spring drive are essentially silent as there is no stepper motor.

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I'm thinking about buying this, what does /g/ think about this?

>>60217052
woof

>>60213788
Why wouldn't you go for a normal SARB or something? Seems to make a lot more sense to me...

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>>60217052

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>>60217076
>>60217177
What about this one then?

>>60217188
Jesus Christ can Citizen's design department manage to shit out a SINGLE FUCKING watch that isn't mallcore as fuck?

W O O F
O
O
F

>>60217212
Are you 12? Speak English please

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>>60217218
It's ugly as sin and looks like the kind d of watch you find in your nearest mall jewelry store hawked to middle class dad's who know nothing about watches.

It is literally the wrist mounted equivalent of Walmart blue jeans, new balance running shoes, a hoodie and a baseball cap.

>>60217312
Okay maybe you can help then. A watch under 500 dollars with a perpetual calender.

>>60217324
Not offhand but I will take a look later.

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>>60216922

>Moomin
>only available in Japan

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60217611
Thanks, I'll monitor this thread

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Newfag here, would anyone mind explaining what makes a regular analog watch any better than an Apple Watch? I understand that there is some subjective value to a nice mechanical movement and I can appreciate them for that, sure, but other than that, are there any real advantages?

>>60217312
>pic
this is really dumb, I get that it's b8 but they didn't even get the stereotype right

a-and there's nothing wrong with new balance f-faggot

>>60217739
You don't have to charge it every night.

>>60217763
yeah but you take it off every night anyway so it's pretty much the same

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>>60215175
>>60215096
Archimede have the smallest flieger type at 36mm.
Perhaps a bit too small.

I like how this company has the option for "lefthanded" cases where the crown points to the left. I would think that for a righty, this setup might in fact be more comfortable as the oversize onion crown can't possible dig into your wrist.

Anyway, for a few years I was thinking that the flieger look was going to be overplayed, but my fears have been assuaged somewhat.

I think the navigator dial/B-Uhr is more interesting as its emphasis is on precision of telling the exact minute. The standard flieger is nice and legible, but the other one is more unique.

>>60213426
God what a pile of autistic retards, they deserve the gas more than jews.

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are there any notorious watches? like watches which if posted will start a flame war, even without any text

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>>60218136
at least it has indices

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>>60218275
thats a nice piece. ID?

>>60218136
Fakes. Steinshits. Nomos.

>>60217082
SARB looks ugly as shit and had a worse movement than the 5740C.

>>60216922
>a mumin fucking smartwatch
Kinda like getting an embroidered tablecloth made out of carbon fibre isn't it?

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chinkwatch
thoughts?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DEBERT-40mm-white-sterial-dial-gold-case-sapphire-glass-MIYOTA-Automatic-movement-men-s-watch-DE25/32719782289.html

What do you think of my collection /wt/? Not gonna post a picture because all of you already know how these watches look:
>Seiko SKX007 with a Strapcode jubilee
>Casio F-91W with a navy blue nato
>Vostok Komandirskie with a blue face & spectre bond nato strap
>Orient Bambino v2 with original leather strap
>Junghans Max Bill hanwind + vietnamese brown croc
>Seagull 1963 chrono with a sexy beige perlon

Any suggestions, should I get rid of something or buy something?

>>60218471
>reddit meme collection

>>60218465
No. Aliexpress watches are fucking shitters. They always suck ass. Worse than the pajeet sellers on ebay.

>>60217781
No, I don't. Why would I do that?

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>>60218471

Buy a few Swatch watches

>>60218519
What's wrong with memes, hipster? They are popular for a reason.

>>60218624
I'd prefer being a hipster to being a walking meme.

>>60218708
Hipsters are a meme.

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>>60218471
nice

>>60218722
Nice. But if either option will make me a meme then I want to be the meme that has a bit more spending money left for the big guns.

>>60218426
You can wear a SARB while washing dishes or when it's raining outside

Every drop of water gets on your precious 5740C costs you $200 plus return shipping to your friendly watchmaker

>>60219307
Why would you think this? The gaskets are all generic items, there is no reason you wouldn't be able to get enough water resistance for hand washing on a vintage watch.

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Someone redpill me on the Monster.

So many reviews I've read on the Monster are by luxury watch owners. And they say it's a 'must-have'.

Why (other than "it's a Seiko!"). I get that part.

>>60219632
don't worry. I am a luxury watch owner and I declare it not a "must-have".

You're free!

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>company makes nice simple quartz beater, has good looks or some killer features on the cheap
>but then
>giant fucking LOGO
>giant fucking QUARTZ
>WATER RESIST

>>60219667
kek thanks m8

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is this tacky?

>>60219676
just get a timex faget and learn to love the TICK

>>60219748
i have some and they're fine
>tick, tick, tick
just want more variety in the cheap shit category that's all famalamadingdongzingdongwingdong

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>>60219743
The dial guilloche, the logo, the numerals, the crown don't look so good in person. Roughly on par with the Tissot Le Locle

>>60219743
It's pure nothingness

>>60219743
Of course not.

>>60219632
Think of it like a uglier turtle/skx that has some pretty large lume applications. The larger the lume application, the brighter lume is perceived to be. And then combine it with the fact that Seiko Lumibrite pretty much outshines anything means you've got a very bright lume watch that makes multi-thousand dollar divers from other companies look like they're using some sort of play-version of lume by comparison.

>>60217212
The chronomasters are great

>>60219632

It's a pretty fucking hideous piece of work. Coming from a Seiko wearer.

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>>60220088
their women's watches are better
> diamonds are indices

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>>60220184
derp picture for ants

>>60220233

>better

Where do i buy proper perlon straps? What kind of bucke do i want on them?
Cheapestnatostraps looks shady because none of the pics with straps they show belong to them and in some pics straps look cheap and plasticy, in the others they look really good.

>>60221325
Eulit

>>60221325
In North America the best source is Holben's Fine Watch Bands. They have a good selection of EULIT perlons.

>>60219537
Gaskets only work if the case, stem, crystal, and caseback are all fitting within original factory tolerances, which is a totally unreasonable expectation out of a half century old watch, other than if the watch is NOS

Did you get it pressure tested? No? Then assume there's about as much water resistance as a salad strainer.

>>60221574
Holben's is great.

Neither Eulit's own webpage or Holben's has a wide variety of colors, sadly.

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>My meme was purged

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>>60217324
Whelp, as it turns out pretty much ever single quartz perpetual calendar below $500 looks like a mallwatch.

Just about your only options for something not completely terrible are the Tissot Tradition Perpetual Calendar (aka THE CLOWN) and the Seiko SPC131P1 (which would be my choice).

>>60221625
Post your watches.

>>60221325

ebay

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>>60221666

Seiko owner detected.

What color straps would go well with this other than tan?

Would black work?

The face is a light greyish

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>>60221708

Pic

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we need a fulltime moderator in these threads to purge the filth.

and a 'like' button.

as it stands it's anarchy, with buttfag archie trolls obliterating each thread.

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>>60221697
Amongst other things, yes. I just get annoyed when people post bait like that but never post their watches.

>>60221721
dark brown, black, green, orange, I mean honestly any color.

>>60221725
go back to /r/watches/

>>60221733
how much is that speedy reference

>>60221708
Black or grey would definitely work. Probably a few other shades of brown would too.

>>60221733

4chan tends to be a really miserable experience if you get worked up by light ribbing.

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>>60221748
no way you buttfag, we're changing the chan.

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>>60221752
It's a 1974 Mark 4.5 with the Lemania 5100 movement and it's probably worth ~$2,000-$3,000 on its own, more with the NOS crystal and NOS chrono reset spring I have stored away for it to guard against future parts unavailability.

>>60221796
I love that style Speedy, well done. Nice collection.

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>>60221814
Thanks. I tend to gravitate to high-end production movements and a penchant for relatively austere designs with baton indices.

I'm going to be selling a few of those eventually (such both G-Shocks other than the GWM-5610, the 1967 Seikomatic-P with the linen dial and the Seiko LM Special 5206-6061) to make room in my collection for another 36mm datejust. I want a blue dialed 16200 quite badly, but I'm not letting myself get one until I sort out all the watches I want to sell.

I would probably have ended up with more vintage King Seikos and Grand Seikos, but that 52 King Seiko Special has been so amazing that I don't feel the need to add any more of them to my collection.

>>60221885
> going to be selling... the Seiko LM Special 5206-6061
I'm still here :p

>>60221885
That Datejust is gorgeous. I've been trying to find the right blue lately (Rolex is out of my budget until the mortgage is paid off).

Surely you'll miss your vintage Seikos? Is there no saving the two of them?

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>>60221910
That's not the one you were interested in though. The one you wanted was the 5206-6020, which had the dark grey dial in it but now has the blue sunburst dial in it (see >>60210908).

Pic related is the one I plan to sell.

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>>60221929
I'm going to be keeping the 1975 King Seiko Special 5256-8010 and the 1971 Seiko LM Special 5206-6020 with the blue sunburst dial.

The King Seiko Special literally runs around ~+0 SPD and has gone 14 days and later 18 days gaining a total of 0.0s (pic related).

>>60222063
how in god's name is that possible?

>>60210908
this blue is gorgeous btw, is this 36mm?

and how many bph with the movement?

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>>60222110
A combination of factors. The 52xx movement is one of the best production automatic movement designs ever made, and it has very high inherent accuracy. In this regard it is often compared to the ETA 2892-A2 and Omega 56x/75x which were designed around the same person in the 1970s and all have very good designs.

Next, the Seiko factory making the King Seiko Specials knew that their high-end watches were going to be switching to quartz soon, and so they absolutely lavished attention on the King Seiko Specials to leave a statement for posterity of their abilities. They cherry picked the parts and adjusted them to a much higher standard than normal.

I got it in great condition and had it serviced by a phenomenal independent watchmaker who specializes in vintage movements, and after service I spent a fair bit of time dialing in the regulation using my own timegrapher.

My Rolex is in the middle of a similar extended performance, actually. I last set it on April 22 and it's continuing to hover around d +0 total.

>>60222033
ah. The gray isn't swappable/you don't plan to part with it?

In any case, I'm open.

>>60222124
Yeah, it's 36mm. The movement is a 52xx variant, though not as finely made and adjsuts as the King Seiko, it still keeps time to within +2 spd.

The 52xx is a 28,800 bph movement. Seiko ended up resurrecting it in the 1990s as the 4s15 and used it for a while before deciding it was too nice for Seiko and moving the caliber to Credor.

>>60222110
nicer mechanicals really can run quite tight.

That being said, you can often achieve great accuracy simply by how to set your watch down for the night. He'll have to be the one to tell us if this was part of his plan, but you see the largest gain was when he set his watch down at "3 up" (crown up in the air) and that's when he was behind and it caught back up.

If you find out that your watch runs very close to perfect in one position you can set it that way overnight, but you might also know in another position it runs a little slow, and in another it runs slightly fast. So if you know recently you've let the watch run down more and it's fallen behind, simply put it in the fast position during the nights to catch itself back up during sleep. That was an automatic watch that is always worn never needs to be manually wound or have the time reset.

>>60222234
>That was an automatic
That should just say "An automatic." no 'that was' needed.

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>>60222234
You are correct. I set it 3up that time because I know that KS Special runs fastest in that position and I wanted it to gain a little time. What is unusual is that it runs so close to +/-0s/d in most other positions leading it's daily variation to be a random walk around 0 without normally needing to use the positional variance.

My two tone Datejust, by contrast, loses time on the wrist and gains it in most other positions, so I've ended up finding that dial down seems to work best for balancing the time lost when worn.

>>60222110
you know how they say a stopped clock is right twice a day?

so it is with drift on a movement. at some point, for some time, every movement will be at 0 spd. usually weeks on a poorer quality movement, months for a better one.

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Thoughts on this Presage?
>40.5mm

too big? 4r36, low-beat movement.

>>60222359
Truly some idiotic posting right there.

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@60222359
Looks like I'm all outta (You)s.

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>>60222378
There's that irony again. :^)

>>60222374
Should have had the 6R15 in it at least. 40.5 is an okay size though.

>>60222374
Wait until you can see some real world pics of it, also have they announced pricing?

>>60222359
why are you down on mecha quartz? Seiko vk64. why the hate?

>>60222397
yeah but even the 6r15 is low-beat, it just has a longer power reserve (I think).

frankly I'm disappointed that Seiko hasn't developed a higher-beat (and affordable) movement.

And this new 43mm 62mas homage? $1000+?? What on earth, Seiko!

>>60222420
It won't retail for $1,000.

Also Seiko doesn't even have to develop one. They should just bring back the 4s15 from Credor.

>>60222420
Longer power reserve, and more accurate.

Also the new SPB051/SPB053 won't be >$1000 unless you're a complete shmuck who pays full MSRP for watches.

>>60222400
$600-$700. outrageous. I bet the blue will look great in person though.

>>60222466
Is that MSRP?

>>60222434
I just looked that up, 28,800/40 hour power reserve.

Why would they have deferred to the 4r36 or the 6r15 as standard movements? bummer.

Naturally I understand Credor needing a good, high-beat movement. But did Credor's hardly Seiko's flagship earner. Surely they could have designed something unique for Credor.

>>60222486
yeah, maybe I'll take a look at it in a year or so

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>>60222498
Even better, the 4s15 was actually designed in the early 1970s by Daini Seikosha as the 52xx. Seiko brought it back in the 1990s, used it for a while, and then decided it was too good to use in mid-range Seikos so they shipped it to Credor.

To this day Seikos from the 1990s with the 4s15 (such as the white Alpinist) go for $500-$1,000 because they are so sought after.

>>60222533
incredible history, thanks for your input.

I own a couple of Seikos, I'd love to expand my collection to include more Seikos. What a rich history.

>>60222378
He is right you fucking moron.
The gain and losses and average out to produce 0spd depending on temp, environmental conditions, age of lube and wear and tear.

fucking photon-deficient furfag.

>>60222653
we need thread moderators to purge filth like you

>>60222672
>stop liking what I don't like.
kek

>>60217188
>>60217052
Check those out in person or check actual photographs online. Citizen shits out atrocious renders instead of actual photos in their marketing for some retarded reason.

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>>60217739
The apple watch is NeoGAF approved, they already pointed out that memechanicals were childrens toys for white racist bigots.

There is no way to justify getting another watch that apple!

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>>60214468
Did you get your deployant from magicstrap on ebay? Is there much of a gap between the springbar & the rest of the buckle? The strapcode deployant has quite the fuckin' there.

>>60223515
>quite the fuckin' gap
Fix'd

>>60210908

Where the fuck did you find a 5206 like that in such good condition?

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Post your watch collections/boxes NOW, cunters

>>60217906
Stowa has a 36mm flieger now too.

>>60217739
A well crafted analog watch is a piece of art. Analog watches also give a man the opportunity to show his individualism and style while Apple watches don't differ much between each other.

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>>60210876
Looking for a small, reliable dive watch to beat up at work, I found this Invicta 4863. I put it on a cheap silicone band since it flexes with my wrists (unlike the bracelet) and doesn't soak up fluids (unlike a NATO). Should I be using a different watch in the emergency medical services?

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>>60224937
No. A mechanical watch, has been and is a piece of jewelry that 'men' want to wear while denying the fact that all their hear craves for is just shiny stuff that happens to have gears.

As for mechshit being art, well... have you seen what passes for 'modern art'? Fucking brainwashed goyims sucking at the mountain jew cocks of 'muh craftsmanship', just like how women go wet for jewelry and carbon rocks.

The fucking swiss watch industry lost the quartz race and ended by creating a niche by brainwashing morons into believing that antiquated timekeeping technology is somehow 'haute horology'.

The emperor has no clothes, fuckah!!
Wake up, morons. Wake up to the power of photons.

>>60225090
Well, if the invictia holds up then why not just keep it?
Presonally I can vouch for my Mako, which lived through literally years of eating shit.
I'm using a nato but that as an EMT I wouldn't wear anything but rubber. Leather/NATO/ZULU would all soak up sweat/piss/shit/blood, and stainless would just get covered in hard to remove gunk, especially in the cracks.

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>>60225308
>>60225090
pic related.

Also you should consider a nicer watch for day to day stuff, and perhaps a terrorist watch for your job.
Though switching watches almost daily would suck ass.

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>>60225308
>if the invictia holds up then why not just keep it?
I may have a watch hoarding problem and I may be trying to get /wt/ to enable me.

>>60225384
That's an attractive watch with a nicely matched strap.

>terrorist watch
>nicer watch
pic related

>>60225575
>That's an attractive watch with a nicely matched strap.

th-thanks

Generally I think you have your bases covered then.
Maybe save up a little for a nicer watch if you want to grow your collection, don't really see a reason to get another beater unless you're one of those old ruskie diver obsessed guys.

I just bought a watch box with 12 slots and own currently only 3 watches. How fucked am I financially in the near future?

>>60225266
0/10
Quartzes are (usually) soulless pieces of junk. Mech watches can be japanese/chinese/german/russian too, you know?

>>60225777

My night went like this:

>I want a new watch.
>I know, I'll get a vintage Seiko's
>That LM looks cool.
>Oh, man, that SM looks cool too.
>I guess I am buying 2 watches tonight!
>Man, I need some new clothes.
>Those are some neat ass prints and hats.
>I should just blow four hundred fucking dollars on clothes!
>Hrm, that gun on /k/ looks cool.
>Guess, I should buy it off Gunbroker!

Two hours. Two. Fucking. Hours.

So, you're doing better than me.

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>>60225641
>unless you're one of those old ruskie diver obsessed guys.
I'd like to buy a bunch of cheap Russian/Soviet parts watches and fix them up as an intro to horology exercise. I have a couple of Elgin watches that I intend to learn on, too. The goal is to be able to self-service my Omega and to have a mechanical hobby that doesn't take up much space or disturb housemates or neighbors.

>>60225821
Kek.
At least I'm a totally cucked nanny state eurofag, so I can't really impulse buy guns.

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>>60225821
>that gun on /k/ looks cool
What did you buy, /k/omrade?

>>60225856

An SP-01.

>>60225875
Nice. I'm in a self-imposed buying freeze right now because I kept impulse buying too many guns, but I do intend to own a CZ at some point.

>>60221708

Red, white, black, orange, perlon straps

>>60221796

It looks way better than a man on the fucking moon overhyped piece of shit

I went from wanting to buy a ton of watches to wanting to buy a ton of watch repair tools. I don't have money for either.

I wonder how my family and friends will react if I ask for a crystal press and a hand puller for my upcoming birthday.

>>60221733
Phuck me dead that's a noice collection bro.
I would personally get rid of 2 g-shocks and one LM Seiko.

>>60222374

Too big

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are these worth getting? they're relatively cheap and i like the design

>>60218471
Sell the lot and buy something good

>>60224585
Jesus

>>60226181
Yes

>>60226181
Yes. As a bonus the f300 movements are less prone to positional variance than the old 214s.

>>60218523
If you don't expect miracles, a few of the brands are alright. Especially for the prices.

>>60219743
Yes.

>>60225799
>muh soul
it's an inanimate object you total retard

>>60226577
>can't understand simple metaphors
You're the fuckin tard

>>60226269
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>60226577

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>>60225799
>I only buy deeply flawed stuff
>shit that actually works for its intended purpose has no soul
have they added mechfagging to the DSM yet?

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>>60223515
The one I got was from Ebay from the following listing:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/161525178927

As you can see, the springbar is very close to the end so it does not leave a gap between the strap and the metal.

>>60223713
Finding 5206s in that condition is not that hard on Yahoo! Japan Auctions using a proxy bidding service, though the dial in that one is from a watch that was on Antique Watch Bar.

However, the reason I got the blue dial from them was because that specific blue dial is very rare, not because of the condition. Also keep in mind that the prices on Y! Japan Auctions are very good, but it is very much caveat emptor over there.

>>60225935
That's a matter of subjective taste, but for me its the movement that is head and shoulders above most chronograph movements.

One of my pet peeves with chronographs is the difficulty in reading the chronograph minute count quickly and precisely of a little subdial. The Lemania 5100 doesn't have that issue because bot the chronograph seconds and minutes are on the central register.

Also, unlike the 1861 it hacks, has a 28,800 bph beat-rate, and has what is probably the single most shock resistant chronograph function to ever appear on a mechanical watch as a result of the chronograph second and minute hands being directly driven from the main geartrain, rather indirectly as it normally done.

To give you an idea of the regard in which the L5100 is held, there very briefly was a moonwatch cased L5100 Speedmaster made in the 1970s. It is nicknamed "The Holy Grail" Speedmaster amongst collectors and is literally the single most valuable Speedmaster variant.

>>60225976
Thanks. Yeah I'm planning to get rid of two G-Shocks, one LM Special, the Seikomatic-P, and the SKX in the next little while.

>>60226181
Yes, but make sure you do your research into how few watchmakers service tuning fork movements and how much it may cost to keep it serviced. There aren't that many watchmakers out there who work on them.

>>60226577
>being so small minded and petty that you cannot even grasp that the soul comes from the care and attention put into making the object by the people who made it.

This is why we throw away bic pens but people collect and restore fountain pens. Why boring econoboxes get junked when they're old, but interesting vintage cars get preserved and restored. Why people throw away their modern cartridge razor but restore 100 year old straight razors. Why the garbage you buy at Ikea gets thrown out but Amish furniture gets passed down in families.

It is the appreciation for the workmanship done by other people and its products that makes us instinctively value finely crafted objects over mass produced lowest common denominator garbage, destined to end up tossed into the garbage as thoughtlessly as it was made when it outlives its usefulness.

>>60225821
>I just dramatically increased my quality of life in 2 hours

sounds like you're winning

>>60227022
>I'm sorry I called you an inanimate object.

>>60227376
>This is why we throw away bic pens but people collect and restore fountain pens. Why boring econoboxes get junked when they're old, but interesting vintage cars get preserved and restored. Why people throw away their modern cartridge razor but restore 100 year old straight razors. Why the garbage you buy at Ikea gets thrown out but Amish furniture gets passed down in families.
So.... they do it because of autism?

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>>60227376
no, you child. pens are not "for collecting". people who write use fountain pens because they're less fatiguing, you get more legible writing, and if you buy bulk ink, like the they're actually cheaper in the long run than disposable pens. not because MUH SOUL. some historical pens are appreciated more for their performance qualities, such as certain vintage waterman flex nibs. but they are cheap, because who the fuck wants a leaky old hard rubber shitpen? there is a reason people are willing to pay an arm and a leg for modern shit like sailor specialty nibs, it's because NEW STUFF IS BETTER. I wouldn't expect you to know that though, since pens and paper are considered a curious historical relic by today's twitter-addled tweens
>Why boring econoboxes get junked when they're old, but interesting vintage cars get preserved and restored
there is nothing interesting about a cage, go drive your motorized wheelchair into a brick wall please
>Why people throw away their modern cartridge razor but restore 100 year old straight razors
no, as with the fountain pen example, straight razors and safety razors give you a better shave than filthy plastic garbage razors, confirmed for underage with no beard
>appreciate muh workmanship
you know what I appreciate? stuff that fucking works. quartz >>> mechshit

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>>60227418

@60227481
tl:dr

When will people learn to stop responding to fucking bait? Stop embarrassing yourselves.

>>60226720
do you know what a metaphor is? how is calling it soulless in any way meaningful or informative?
>>60227376
>if you disagree with me you are dumb
wow, we've got some world-class intellectuals in here

No wonder there's so much money to be made in this inferior tech

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>>60227376
>m-my old shitty mechanical watch is equivalent to a classic Mustang
>fountain pens
>muh soul
>y-you just don't understand because y-you're stupid! p-poorfag...!

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I bet mechanicalfags are like winefags. Conduct a double-blind study and I bet half of you guys can't spot the objective quality differences between a $350 "shitter" and a $10,000 model you're not already intimately familiar with—just like wine "connoisseurs" can't actually tell the difference between expensive and low-midrange wine.

>>60227481
> car = cage
now THIS is autism

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>>60227376
What a fucking moron.

1. Fountain pens
Fountain pens and even old fountain pens allow YOU, the user, to be more expressive hence the use of 'soul' may be justified.

2. Econ boxes
Shithead, do you see old, unsafe gas guzzlers being manufactured today? They are only being RESTORED by another group of 'passionate' morons who think those old cars look cool and have soul despite a critical lack of safety features.

3. Razors
Straight edge razors are actually better than the gillette plastic shit and are also more economical and environment friendly. Try using one and slit your throat while you are at it and liberate your 'soul'.

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>>60227506
>@60227481
>tl:dr
Who is this idiot that keeps using @ to quote a post even though it blatantly doesn't work?

>>60227712
he thinks he's accomplishing something by not giving you a backlink, it's something some legit autist out there likes doing

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>>60227722
Fucking autists man.

>>60227699
pretty much. Even the chinese can shit out quality movements en-masse which the mountain jews proclaim to be 'haute whorology' and require 'craftsmanship'.

How difficult is it to run an assembly line of cnc machines?

>>60227709
Some caveats that need to be noted:
A lot of classic sports cars actually do have a lot more character, although this is partly due to modern safety regulations basically requiring really ugly/shitty designs. Engineers don't have a
lot of wiggle room.

Safety razors are better, but the /wt/ mechfag equivalent are those people on Reddit who get all autistic about it and buy 10 different razors for no real reason and who spend $120 on something that is objectively worth maybe 20 or 30 on the market when you consider materials and finishing, and then they buy into a bunch of meme soap and brush bullshit, etc. This is the real issue here—beyond a certain point it's just autism and arbitrary snobbery, not "soulfulness" or anything of the sort.

>Econ boxes
This is also kind of a non-point as there "luxury" cars I'd say are basically econoboxes in their own right. A Honda Civic is kind of like a Casio but your boring ass and technologically inferior Rolex isn't the equivalent of a Rolls Royce and no amount of jerking yourself off will change that.

>>60227785
>pretty much. Even the chinese can shit out quality movements en-masse
I agree with you for the most part but not with this. Chinese movements are pretty bad. Most of my Chinese quartzes lose 10-20 minutes a month and the mechs I've tried are okay but I don't expect them to last more than a couple of years. The Chinese really do need Europeans to force QC on them.

>>60227807
Check out the orbis morgan explorer. /wt/ lapped it up a year back.

>>60227830
That doesn't have a Chinese movement though

>>60227848
The point being, they can shit out good stuff if they want to, they just don't care to. Their quality control and manufacturing capability is a spectrum, you get what you pay for. They are fabbing their own chips and have a put a man in space so they aren't exactly stupid, they just want to squeeze as much money from the goyim as possible even if that means shitting out qc failed quartz or stamped mechshits.

>>60227830
>Check out the orbis morgan explorer
product page:
>- Super Enginner 4.6mm thickness 5 links Bracelet
>Enginner

>>60227885
Oh look, I found the Chink fake watch forum fag.

Chinks are subhuman and should be gassed en masse. Literally worse the street shitting Indians. Even the Chinese in Hong Kong refer to mainlanders as fucking locusts.

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>>60212958

I prefer atomic radio watches too. I want the best of what the function of a watch is: time keeping. If I am a fashion retard, so be it.

>>60227892
How many languages do you speak fucker? But of course, spelling errors on a product page is not excuse-able. Even the japs did that in the 70s and look at how /wt/ sucks their dick now.

>>60227914
muh boogeyman

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>>60227962
>Japanese == Chinese
>Race doesn't real
wwwwrrrrrrrooooooooooong

>>60227934
nah, the retards are the mechshits.
some of these permavirgins think a watch helps one get laid too. kek.